2024 Mazda CX-90 Turbo 3.3 Premium Plus - POV First Driving Impressions
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- MSRP: From $48,900
Engine: 3.3-liter turbo inline-six with a 48-volt hybrid system
Horsepower: 280 hp at 5,000 RPM
Transmission: 8-speed automatic
MPG: 24 city / 28 highway / 25 mpg combined
Towing capacity: 5,000 lbs
Dimensions: 201.6 in long, 77.6 in wide without mirrors, 68.7 in high, 122.8 in wheelbase, 67.1 in front track width, and 67.2 in rear track width
Ground clearance: 8.1 in minimum
Interior: White Nappa leather, captain's seats, and two foldable, slidable rear seats
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Oh look at that! You had the rear seats down. Now it’s a CX70!!!
Wish they brought the CX60 instead of being lazy and removing the third row of the 90 and calling it a day
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@@ramennoodlzI honestly don't get it.
Marketing the cx70 as an individual model will cost them a ton vs giving it a separate trim within the CX90 model, yet they still did that.
What’s the difference between the CX60 and a 90 with a rear delete? Near as I can tell the 90 is about a foot longer and won’t have a diesel engine option. It sounds like we are getting a slightly larger 60 already.
Really tired of reading that smooth brain comment about the seats being folded down
This is actually really impressive, what you get for 50k, a premium 3 row SUV, with great comfort and driving dynamics. Heated and cooled seats, instead of a turbo 4 cylinder, you get a buttery smooth Inline 6. These are things that something like a BMW X5 offers for like 30k more.
The CX90 has shown reliability as bad or even worse than BMW. Please look up the number of dealer buybacks on this vehicle. I would only lease it for now until the dust settles.
@@ratshackmojoMeoww brother
@@ratshackmojofirst model year problems, they'll get through the teething
@@royshavrick I sure hope so! Anyone that’s willing to risk releasing a brand new turbo i6 engine in this over regulated environment with a fun to drive suv chassis deserves to be rewarded.
Hey Topher!
I remember reading something about the starter motor situation a while back. Apparently it's not good for the health of the high voltage battery to provide a ton of power when it's cold, especially in cold climates like yours and mine in Michigan and Minnesota, so the traditional starter motor was added to preserve the life and health of the hybrid battery
after driving my CX90 MHEV, equivalent to PP, I'd say I always fall in love each day.
The handling and the rear biased drive is really a good experience.
It was a love at first sight last year, but waited for a bit for them to iron out some issues, then finally got it. I'd say, I'm so happy.
Thanks for reviewing the base engine. It's hard to find reviews of it
Ikr! And it's probably the one to get
Same mistake made by almost every reviewer. You can indeed use the touchscreen with CarPlay or Android Auto while the car is in motion, it’s a checkbox setting disabled by default and hidden inside of the Communications category.
Think about it this way, if someone who has ridden in thousands of cars and reviewed 500+ cars cannot figure this out - do you think your average consumer will? No, they won't. It might as well not have this feature at all. That is a failure on Mazda's part entirely.
IMO it should be enabled by default
All three comments in this group make a good point
@@TheNeoCubest These reviewers have the car for a week and then they move on the next, they are not perfectly dialing in everything for themselves. All an owner has to do is google it and they have their answer. If they are too lazy or dumb to google it then it's their own problem. Obviously, it should be on by default, Mazda is stuck in their ways even though it's hurting their sales.
@@TheNeoCubestWell…that’s what owners manuals are for. Every other Mazda with this updated system works this way. It shouldn’t be a secret to anyone at this point especially an auto reviewer.
Man that inline 6 sounded so good when you were winding it out, I love the sound of their sky ativ engines, they did good with the mazda 3 but this is sounds way nicer im impressed
Unfortunately it's fake sound and there is no way to turn it off.
WAY too noisy as a daily driver.
Its mostly artificial
Shame its in another boring, overweight, oversized, over engineered vehicle.
Yeah doesn’t good at all, fake af
Love the addition of the quick watch review! That speedmaster of yours in black leather strap looks awesome too
I just bought a blue one two weeks ago I absolutely love it never imagined owning a Mazda like this one.
0:40 , not 55k, prices dropped by up to $4000 since he recorded this video
The pricing in the topher's description is correct for this premium plus (under 50 before destination)
that’s for 2025.
@@hudsonriversirens nope it's a 2024 MY price change
Such a luxurious interior.
Bro his content is free
there wouldn't be content if he wasn't getting paid, you should be thanking people donating or subscribing to a membership.
that interior is amazing
Current cx9 leasee here. This interior has similar but updated vibes... Very nice. Glad to hear the transmission issues may have been addressed. All that said, this is a first year of a new engine, new platform, new tech Suv. This is 100% Lease Only until they can prove its reliability. We've had some odd issues with our CX-9 that Mazda took care of under warranty, but not sure I would trust it long-term without a warranty.
We've found Mazda reliability to be a bit hit or miss as well. We ended up going to a Volvo XC90 after our CX9, perhaps we'll look back into Mazda in a couple of years with the facelifted CX90
been in my 3rd cx9 (now carbon edition ) smooth as silk. miss the in screen active display and the front camera. otherwise. the volvos i test drove were over engineered, felt like a tank and not enough bang for that extra buck. sorry to hear you’ve had issues/ like you, i’m a leaser , have one more year to decide. hopefully 90 kinks are figured out.
I’m on my second Volvo lease. A 2021 XC60 now a 2023. I had a CX9 rental for a week when I was out of town last fall. I was reminded of why I love Mazda products. The dynamics and powertrain were so fantastic. The seats and ride felt like cheap cardboard compared to my Volvos. I really like this CX90 and I’m hoping it retains those Mazda dynamics but moves closer to Volvo in the quality feel. The Volvos are a bit dull and lacking in the driving dynamics and powertrain. I’ve always liked a more sporty driving dynamic and the Volvos have bored me to tears over the past few years. Mazda is on a roll here. I hope they keep working on this and improving it!
@@JakeDrives1Have you driven the current generation X5, I found those to be a lot better to drive than the Volvo products and still have a premium interior.
@@joespittle1 yes briefly and I loved it. It is on my short list for my next lease. Not cheap though! Volvo has had great incentives on their cars both times I’ve purchased. $1500 Costco cash etc.
Saw one at the dealership yesterday, very nice cars.
I agree with the seatbelt chime, it is annoying. My parents have a CX-50 and it annoyed them to the point they bought seatbelt extenders so it would shut up the seatbelt chime, problem solved.😎 Just don't forget to put your seatbelt on of course.
It's crazy how long all Mazda's crank until they start. I thought it was just me when I had a '14 CX-5 but my buddy has an '18 CX-3 with the same behavior. The comment made around 8:50 confirms it's a normal thing. Then there's my ole '17 Kia Sorento that can be sat for weeks, low on burnt oil, still running original battery + sparks from 85k miles ago and still turn over instantly.
Wonder if that might be for a reason like maybe it spreads the oil out better in the engine before it starts as a way to extend engines life over time. Just a guess.
So impressive luxury feeling🤩
I really like that nice warm white colour temperature they chose for the headlights, a nice 4500k-ish colour temp which is slowly going away for 6000k LEDs.
The Mazda interiors are so nice, however I kinda miss ambient lightning. Doesn't have to be RGB gaming chair like in the current Mercedes lineup, but something nice and subtle like in The W212 facelifts.
Mazda is making a comeback and they are the best cars!
Anyone who says this isn't an impressive car in its segment is coping. Mazda is killing it these days.
Let’s say “capping” cause it’s really a standout vehicle!!!
@@user-sw7ty9ii3o if you’re old and don’t relate to young person lingo you can just ignore it
I love the direction Mazda is going and hope people finally give Mazda their due and start buying their vehicles over the mundane versions of others. We'll see if these prove to be reliable, but considering how well their reliability ranking are now, it would be a good assumption that they'll if anything stay the same. That inline 6 sounds awesomely refined and the cabin quiet. A great alternative to the BMW X5 and Mercedes GLB and even better then the other Japanese, Korean and American competitors. Mazda is moving up in the game and deservedly so ✌🏾❤️
We need more base model reviews from Mazda.
If Mazda puts the same powertrain in the Mazda 6, that would be a very good car.
Hopefully without the hybrid crap.
@@nodak81 the mazda 4s they put in those hybrids are solid though man and they have the same torque as this inline 6. Mazda became top 5 in relability with those engines, now you can get around 50mpg with them.
Had one of the PHEV versions of these as a loaner while my 3 hatch was in for service and I liked it a lot! PHEV thing was cool and all but I was really curious the whole time what the I-6 versions are like. Road tripped it from Seattle to Portland and back and made for a great highway cruiser, and even hustled it a bit through some winding roads in the Oregon backcountry with some Miata friends who were very surprised how well I managed to hang with them! I just feel like making the case for the PHEV model with these is tricky (I only saw ~20 miles of real world EV only range, but did manage to average 30 mpg when I returned it…it’s still a big 3 row SUV lol), and I’d imagine the I-6 being the more befitting option for the car generally. Definitely want to get behind the wheel and try one at some point.
Thanks for the pov test I noticed it’s loud not sure if it because your microphone is so good or the car isolation of sounds is bad..I also noticed the suspension is stiff also at the end of the test when you did a tight u turn it seems something was rubbing. Thanks again for this test . Regards
Nah it’s pretty quiet on the road. Seems like the microphone picks up more noise than it really is.
Very nice. If you’re someone who is planning on keeping this over 100,000 miles please due your due diligence and check what service requires the engine to be removed from the subframe….
Excited to see the turbo s and phev review and which one topher would choose
I like the lower stance of the newer mazda SUVs!
❤ the watch nice review 😂
Adaptive cruise is Jerky when the distance to fromt vehicle setting is closest. I set it to two car lengths and use the adaptive cruise everywhere.
As a Mazda sales consultant I was looking forward to this video. Topher always delivers an unbiased review. Great content. I look forward to the next video.
These cars are going to be very reliable.
We purchased a Preferred Plus model in Platinum Quartz Metallic. Considered a Toyota Grand Highlander (too big/too soft a ride), Telluride/Palisade, X5, etc. Decided to go with the CX-90 as it has most of what we wanted at a decent price. Really like the interior so far; thanks for the heads-up about the rattling seat belts when the back seats are declined. Agree w/you about the side/front angles. AC seems weak, good pick-up, but the engine takes a bit of getting used to as this is our first car that 'turns off' at a light and is a bit 'torquey.'
Seems too much use of the wheel...worried about long-term wear and tear since the nav is not voice-activated. LOTS of spinning. After less than a week, taking the car into the dealership as the infotainment system isn't working correctly: not loading, random reboots, 'locked' wheel, no control over sound. Since this is the first year of the CX-90, wondering if this is the typical first model year issues or the beginning of more problems due to poor QC.
That traffic in the US though. So many large vehicles with just one person sitting in it.
That's one aggressive start-up chime. Would start to drive me nuts after a while. Mazda need to change it.
The startup chime is because he didn't have his seatbelt on. If you put your belt on first, it doesn't happen. Its just as annoying in my 22 mazda3. If you are the type of person who starts up and then belts, this will train you to reverse the order pretty quickly.
No they don’t.
Exactly, I start my car a lot and dont put a seatbelt on because I'm not driving yet. Sometimes Im going through my phone or picking a song or any number of things except driving, annoying as hell.
Surprised there wasn't any noticeable ambient lighting. Had a 2010 Mazda that had blue lights in the grab handles and floor. The headlights were AFS too.
It's got lighting in the usual locations for a typical premium car. Like footwells, doors, glove box, etc. but modern light bars or color changing, nah
Is it the audio or is the ticking of the engine really inconsistent during the walk around?
9:18 Shout out to Savagegeese!
I always drive lexus now that Im older but I hear mazda is getting pretty luxurious. Perhaps I should test drive one sometime. Im a sedan guy however. I prefer less wind resistance and better mpg.
How's your CX30? Rust proofing working well?
The 9:18 Savagegeese cameo 😂
Love the watch
It feels like the high output turbo s line has been evading you since the launch. I am eager to get your feedback on the top performer for this vehicle. Hopefully that will happen soon.
Hey Topher i was thinking you review the 2024 Yamaha R3 because why not ( i really want this bike )
Topher, nice POV review. A few questions: 1) Does the Remote Start when engaged activate the heated steering wheel automatically (when it's below a certain low temp) & the rear window defroster & heated Seats & mirrors?; 2) Does the CX-90 have Auto Exit and Entry - to adjust the seats back & raise the steering wheel when exiting, and the same when entering using the Memory Settings; 3) Do the sideview mirrors automatically Fold up when you turn it off? One comment about te InfoT. I saw that the default settings - which can be changed in it's Buried menu - of when using AA or CP you cannot use the touch screen to use . That can be changed to allow using AA or CP while driving by changing that setting !
Most reviewers of the Mazda continue to compare it To Volvo, BMW, MB, even Lexus, but Exclude Acura MDX. I have a 22 MDX Advance, and aside from some Creature Comforts (particularly what I cited above, This CX-90 is a direct Competitor to it, IMHO. Premium Plus Non Turbo S at $55K vs. a 24 MDX Advance at $64K ! To get the HP/Torque of the Turbo S you would have to Upgrade the MDX to a Type S model + CX-90 at $62K Premium Plus Turbo S vs a MDX Type S Advance at $75K !!
no small tray in the interior of the door next to the window control?
Hi, nice driving….are you from winding road magazine.
You can never go wrong with a mazda.
I must be the odd person who likes the startup chime! Granted I don't let it go for the full amount of time either lol.
Hey… it would be great if you tested updated Matrix LED light.
Will u be testing the 2024 BMW X1 or X2 M35i ?
I am hesitant on getting this because reviewers mentioned that they can feel all the bumps of the road, which will get annoying over time. But I purchase vehicles also based on IIHS safety ratings.
Wish you could get it without the hybrid system. I've heard that instead of a torque convertor it has some sort of clutch pack which can be clunky and jerky sometimes and makes the drivetrain less smooth. Not to mention making the whole car much more complex (and expensive) than it has to be.
savagegeese reference fires😂
6:30 Why didn't you lift up the beauty cap?
Holy F. The seatbelt chime is so aggressive. It sounds like the "old school" BMW start up chime having multiple seizures.
EDIT:
2008-2011 Chime
This engine sounds so good. Still not as good a B58 but pretty nice for 50k.
I hope Mazda puts that I6 in a sedan or coupé paired with a 6MT
for somebody with three kids deciding on this or a top trim pilot or crv hybrid... it's tough, want a drivers car, or as close as you can have while hauling 3 kids sometimes. mostly a commuter... we have a 2023 honda odyssey also.
Do NOT buy this. They all have suspension problems that don't show up for a few thousand miles. Ive read they are literally working to redesign the suspension for a fix. The tech is also fuqd and works when it wants. Save yourself a headache and look elsewhere.
cant wait to see the turbo s and phev review ! and the “ALL NEW” cx 70 (joking) lol
make this exact interior into a mazda6 and bring it back, then you'd really have something Mazda!
fire
This or the Acura MDX is what I am debating
They'll make MX-50 next. Miata SUV with 1tf ground clearance.
Does this new engine equip with direct injection?
My phev does not auto shift. It will hold the gear and bounce off of it. I don’t know if the software update will get rid of that but I hope not.
You are wrong, with rear seats down, it's a CX- 70.
That’s a beautiful cockpit
I have a Cx90 with an I6 engine. I like its sporty chassis and steering feel and good fuel mileage. I don't like its cheap and noisy engine and motor sound at idle, and the obvious gearbox jerkiness and drag during low-speed deceleration. A good-looking longitudinal straight six engine rear-wheel drive large SUV, it sounds like a BMW, its price is 45k, it's worth the price, you can't expect it to be as sporty as a BMW and as quiet and smooth as a Lexus.
Mazda is crushing it right now. If they actually come out with a RWD Mazda 6 then watch out German automakers.
Ended with a sound system test but didn't give any impressions....
nice cx70
German brands have lots the plot when it comes to interiors, this is much nicer.
Bingo
It doesn't matter, Mazda doesn't have any snob appeal to the soccer mom's, so it would not be a consideration to begin with.
Disagree, this is not nicer than an x5 or GLE inside and it doesn’t have the brand.
Design may be nicer. Materials aren't.
Steering is much improved and no so stiff after recall. You will not recognize the car ;)
While I appreciate the new powertrain that isn't an electric motor, I am kind of surprised they were able to get so little power out of a turbo 3.3L 6. Competitors with similar engines are getting about 100hp more than that. What gives? Maybe it is underrated on purpose for the japanese market like old times?
They were going for NA feeling, reliability, efficiency, regular gas
Turbo S turns it up a little but it's still not much power for the engine size. Think of it this way, if they were targeting this much exact horsepower, I'd rather have this over a smaller engine making more boost
Mazda elegance
I imagine that starter motor must be a redundancy for reliability.
As the owner of a 2021 CX-5 turbo, I got one of these as a loaner a few weeks ago and it pains me to say that I was very disappointed in the car. The ride was harsh and bouncy, tracking at highway speeds was extremely nervous, requiring constant little corrections and the auto start/stop was jerky and unrefined. Despite the size of the interior, I found the driver's seat to feel very confined and cramped and the third row is useless for anyone over age six, ridiculous for how utterly massive this thing is. My CX-5 is my second Mazda and I will own an MX-5 someday but if somebody gave me $50-60k to spend on a full-size crossover, I'd walk straight past the CX-90 and get an Acura MDX. Maybe these reviews put the car on a pedestal and maybe the loaner I got was just a bad example but to say I was disappointed in it is an understatement.
I drove a 2013 and 2019 MX-5 and both are incredible refined. I find the Acura MDX the absolute most horrendous car I have seen this 2024 (The inside is nice though). Looks like a generic GTA V SUV
Don’t forget Lincoln and Cadillac
Canada finance rate 6.7 %. $1000 month for 84 months
It would be really helpful if you'd have driven in daylight
when you talk about cant afford a good designed car.....
MAZDA: HOLD MY BEER
We’re test driving SUV’s now?
Mazda's are mad clean, but I do feel like they downgraded a little with the look of the headlights on this one.
Loud startup.
The fact that this giant SUV has a multi-link rear suspension, double wishbone up front, but the Mazda 3 is on a torsion beam rear baffles me. BMW or Mercedes isn’t less luxurious because M and AMG exist, so bring back Mazdaspeed and cars that are really fun to drive.
People don't buy those cars
@@jstrig I do and many people do. If manufacturers would put the same energy on marketing SUVs toward sedans, coupes or wagons, they would sell a lot of more.
@@maximeparent3004 No, many people don't. That's why they are not being made anymore. In fact, sedans aren't selling great in general
It shouldn’t because the Mazda 3 torsion beam is nicely done and 90% of consumers would not notice it. I surely do not.
@@maximeparent3004SUVs and crossovers didn’t suddenly eclipse sedans because manufacturers started marketing them. They became fuel efficient, easy to drive, better looking and consumers want them. Consumers aren’t choosing a crossover over a sedan purely because of a torsion beam.
If only they put this platform in a Mazda x3 maybe compact sedan inline 6 turbo I mean hey if someone’s fit a v12 in a Miata they can put it in a sedan
I owned Mazdas before and I told myself I will never buy a Mazda again...then I saw this car. 6cyl+Hybrid.....that is a winner. All the small block 4cyl engines are garbage and your car won't last. Well done, keep making more 6cyl cars because the 4cyl turbos are only good on paper.
13:04 i detest a.s.s. it's such a pita to live with on a daily basis since you can't set it to off by default, and surely it has to have an effect on the starter motor, as well as the turbo.
Where is the evidence that it has an effect on the engine and turbo?
On most cars you can just turn accessory mode on, disable, then start the car. I hate it too but it becomes habit pretty quickly and you don’t think about it. It is nicer when they allow it to always be disabled, but alas they want to please the EPA and EU with their emissions ratings.
no one noticed the speedometer on the windshield 💀
I just don't understand what the turbo is for. A 3.3L NA I6 would easily make the same power, sound better, be more reliabile, more efficient, lighter, easier to service. Like the 2.5L I4 engines, I think a turbo version makes sense, but doens't seem necessary for the lower power model.
want one of these so bad, this exact model in the dark grey... worry to much about the, admittedly innovative, engine and transmission. nobody likes dealing with service.
the inside looks exactly like the mdx!!
Except for everything.
She's beautiful let's be honest 😍
I didn't notice you addressing the few problems that people have experienced. Not just reviewers but a lot of owners as well.
Maybe bacause hes not having issues with it..
Love love love this SUV! So glad Mazda did an Inline V6, I couldn’t ever drive some turbo 4 cylinder.
You shouldn’t try to be an engine purist if you can’t even tell the difference between an inline 6 and a V6. They’re two different kinds of 6 cylinder engine, my friend.
@@vikingmetalhead024He wasn’t talking about the difference between V6 and Inline 6, he is just saying that he prefers the Inline 6 Turbo instead of the 4 Cylinder Hybrid.
@@GarlandTexasSpotter2024 I’m sure I read the original comment correctly. “Inline V6” - there’s no such thing. An inline and a V are two separate engine configurations.
doors sound tinny
Not a fan of Mazda but powers buttons for the engine hood and glove box should be standard on every vehicle being made today. Practicality wlll always trump digital fluff for any real driver.....zoom zoom.