Easy Choice? Triumph Speed 400 & Scrambler 400X vs Harley-Davidson X440 vs Royal Enfield Classic 350
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- 3 NEW Motorcycles launched! but Which one would you go for?
Now we have real choices in the 350cc to 450cc motorcycle segment.
Triumph have launched two new models; the Speed 400 and the Scrambler 400X. Harley-Davidson have launched the X440. And of course we already have the models from Royal Enfield; the Classic 350 and the Himalayan and Scram 411, and of course the Royal Enfield Hunter and Meteor!
The Ol' Man discusses his thoughts on the new offerings, what he likes, and doesn't care for so much. Are they a hit or a miss? Will they topple the Royal Enfield's off their perch?
He looks at the design, aesthetics, power and torque delivery and weighs up the pros and cons.
Here's our video of the Triumph 400 launch at the Bike Shed in London, where Darcy was in attendance: • NEW Triumph Speed 400 ...
Here's our reviews of the Royal Enfield Classic 350:
• Is The Royal Enfield C...
• Royal Enfield Classic ...
and Royal Enfield Himalayan and Scram 411 reviews:
• Royal Enfield Himalaya...
• Hit or Miss? Royal Enf...
and we forgot to mention the Royal Enfield Meteor and Hunter!
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The Triumph will attract younger riders, which is a good thing, the Classic 350 attracts the more mature rider, the Harley Davidson will attract people who should have gone to Specsavers 😂
2 people influenced me to buy my R E classic 350. You are one of them. I wasn't remotely surprised when you bought one. Total game changer! Passed my test in April. My Royal Enfield is my first big boy bike. At 57, probably my last too! I absolutely love it! Done about 1200 miles. Still running it in. It just gets better and better! Mine is the Signals. Desert Sand. Removed the pillion seat and rear pegs. Added octagonal drop bars, side pannier bars and soft bags. Also a small H D rack on the rear bumper. On that, I fitted a 5 ltr jerry can with a lockable door cut into it. I store a small tool kit, bungees, oil, bike chain and disc lock. My bike looks the dogs bollocks! Also, had some extra stickers added. Everywhere I go, people ask questions. Oh! I forgot, I had replica tax disc made with my date of birth and bike details on it. It looks amazing and fits the classic style. I bloody love my bike. So glad you love yours too! Good luck in Spain mate. You'll be missed here, I have no doubt. Cheers! Jez. 👍😊
I've just picked up my new 350 classic in gunmetal grey today, absolutely love it !
I traded my Interceptor in for it after three years and ten thousand miles of owning it , and have to say the classic is better bike , the riding position, seat , footrest positioning handlebars are way more comfortable! The overall finish and switchgear is better quality as well ! 👌
I totally agree with your assessment . In my opinion, the Classic 350 wins, hands down when compared to the new Triumph and H-D offerings. Despite having less hp, it has beautiful looks and style. Thanks for the review. Cheers. Dan 👍🏍🇨🇦
As I commented on D'arcy's channel,uk legislation appears designed to force us motorcyclists off the road.When a lot of cars are only occupied by the driver,its no surprise that our roads are so clogged.If all of the fit and healthy drivers of such cars were put on motorcycles there could be far less congestion.................................
I agree with you classic 350 has no competition if any one is interested in a classic lookin bike in 400cc segment he/she has to few options
Here in India, it's a third world war. Team triumph vs Team Harley Davidson. Secretly, it's Hero vs Bajaj. It's chaos here. Everyone's going nuts.
Honda CB350 Bikes are crazy good in India
yes true both companies are doing paid reviews praising theirs and putting the other down.. LoL its interesting to see this😀😀
I had for free months a HNTR 350. This bike has a wonderful smooth engine!!! But I'm living in the Austrian Voralpenland - if you're driving up a mountain, you are nearly unable to overtake a slow truck!?!? I think the RE 350 engine is really dangerous for driving in the mountains! After selling the HNTR 350 I started dreaming of a mixture of my KTM Duke 350 and the RE HNTR 350! The Triumph Speed 400 nailed it! 💪
Nonsense.For a small investment you can take that 350 from 20 to 30 h.p. and torque.
@@deltabluesdavidraye You are a funny guy -to make this legal is in Austria impossible!
The RE Classic 350 has got its own character and charm. India is a very cost sensitive country and there are bikes available which outperforms the classic easily and yet non of them are able to replace the presence of the classic, its so strong here in India that even Royal Enfield are themselves scared to make any design changes to the classic. The classic reborn was built from the scratch getting the new frame and engine and yet they kept it exactly the same as the previous versions because people may not feel that connection anymore. This bike sells purely on emotions here 🙂
Agreed on the styling, I'm a Sportster owner and enjoy Harley's but that new one looks dreadful. The tank looks like it's off sumat else. Triumph looks quite nice but it's the 350 classic for me in that class.
I share your view 100% about seats, anodised gold forks, plastic tails and side mounted mudguard. Other pet hates that deterred me from buying certain bikes in the past are weird headlight designs (Triumph Street Triple) and how high rear ends are above the wheel. Many have tiny pointed pillion seats hardly big enough to seat a baby's bum let alone an adults. I'll stick with the comfort, looks and practicability of my Honda CB1100 RS until bike fashion return to normal.
Listening to you speak about the esthetics of motorbikes is good poetry. Thanks for your honest work, always enjoyable and educational.
Totally agree on the styling and prefer the old school retro classic looks 💯
Don't think Royal Enfield will worry about Triumph or Harley as the will both be way over the price of the Classic which will be a deciding factor for a lot of would be buyers! Great review as well.
they have launched it on competetive price
@@nishantrao1717 In India yes but not in UK yet and it will be more expensive here I bet!
In India they are priced below top variant RE classic 350 .
@@vikasshelke5544 Thats good just hope they stay like that when they get to the UK?
@tyldudn Yes I think the speed may be competition for the RE350 for some but I believe that the people who want a true modern classic will still go for the RE350.
In India Triumph have played a blinder and priced the bikes the same as the RE 350s and Harley.(£2500ish) The Indians are absolutely lapping it up. If Triumph can get it here for a similar price to the RE bikes I don't see RE selling many more Hunters/Scrams/etc. The Triumph is going to be WAY more, as the Americans would say, highway capable.(and fun)
Ive got a 400cc bike made from bajaj, the same guys that will build the triumph. Let me tell you, for a naked bike i wish it had the peak power a little bit lower in the rev range. The dominar in 6th at 120kmph runs at 6500rpm, the peak power hits@ 8800rpm. Its great when you are riding in the highway at 70-80mph(120-130km/h) and twist the throttle and you get instant power up to 160kmph but the wind at those speeds are annoying. In the backroads it lacks the torque needed to chill at 3500-4000rpm, specially when riding with a pillon. If i had the option to choose, id rather take the harley, it has more useful power, 38nm@4000rpm sounds great to me. I hope i explained myself, not my first language 😆
Excellent explanation 💯👌🏼
The Dominar engine is based on the Duke 390 (Bajaj own a fair chunk of KTM). Which is why it is a wee tad on the revvy side. Interestingly Bajaj bikes here in the Philippines, Pulsar and Dominar, are badged as Kawasaki and sold through their dealerships. Wonder if that will happen with the new Triumphs. Otherwise, if you don't live in Manila or Cebu, you won't have access to the dealer.
Love the styling of the RE classic. I've got the classic black 500 Bullet, painted by the Kumar Brothers. When I think Harley, I've got a custom 1200 Nightster, bobber..soooo I guess I'm done. Time for a ride, but...which one😊.?
Neither Harley or Triumph. Hold a styling candle to the Classic 350.
I am more or less the same age as you Old Man and I really appreciate the aesthetics of bikes like the 350 Royal Enfield. Although I am waiting for the 650 Classic to come here, probably next year now I would have thought.
For me personally, the Harley looks like cheap Chinese crap, which is probably what it is. Harley seem to have their heads wedged way too far up their own arses to care what their now and future customers want.
I told my youngest son about the Harley a few weeks ago when it first surfaced. He is 19 and hates it as much as I do. They seem to have totally lost the plot with design and ergonomics.
I reckon the Triumph will sell in bucket loads, as does my lad. You can't argue with the youth of the day after all..........
Prices for the Triumphs have just been released here in France. Speed 400 - 5695€ and Scrambler 400 X - 6395€ , so they're not far off the prices of the equivalent RE models.
I'm nearing the other end of my motorcycling journey, having ridden bikes for nearly 50 years now. I currently have a Triumph Street Scrambler 900, but the weight is starting to become a bit of an issue when I'm manoeuvring it out of the garage, so the Scrambler 400 X could be of interest to me, with enough power for the roads around here and some dirt road capability.
Where I live 300-400 cc bike are not just a back-road bike. It will be a family only bike in the household for most. The problem of the RE350 is the lack of top speed, 110 kph is just not enough. It need just a bit more to be able to useable in highway traffic here.
The Triumph 400 will be a serious contender over here.
And the winner is : Yamaha SR 400.
Shitty joke aside, the RE is quite a looker. I have a thing for the headlight visor. Thanks for your great review !
I have a Scram 411. It goes so well after some tweaks I wouldn't want to change it.
You are so right in contrasting new designs vs classic styled bikes that reflect the simple components of what makes for a successful machine. Adding, subtracting and twisting bits of plastic don’t make for elegant beautiful machines.
10:04 "It's a terrible shame that the system sucks" That one sentence pretty well sums up the state of things EVERYWHERE. 👍
I’ve had a 350
Classic for 4 months now …couldn’t be happier …yes it lacks a bit of umph but the most comfortable riding position I’ve ever had I think and a very easy machine to get use to and ride .. I changed my air filter and cap ( dna from Hitchcocks ) yesterday and it had made a big difference …not only now does it sound better , not that it was bad before you understand but sounds throatier and does have a little more torque I’d say …so we’ll worth the £90 and very simple to install ….like 5 minutes …love the Channel and your son is a credit to you 👍
Got the same .Red &Chrome
Truely Great bikes and ive been riding since 1969 so been through a few bikes
Worth buying the DNA cleaning kit 15 quid and does two services so as these are life time filters they work out cheaper than the paper ones in the long term.
I agree that RE have it nailed. Both the Harley and the Triumph look like third party bikes with a dull paint scheme and the appropriate logo. Slap dash solution to fill a hole in their range.
After riding for over a decade, I have come to realize, there is no perfect bike. You fall in love with it and love gradually grows as you spend more time in solitude riding. RE for sure is my choice, but am also excited about Triumph and Harley at that price points. Harley has always been an inspirational brand to possess in India, so I think Harley will also attract a lot of attention, plus their groups and accessories will come to foray.
As a viewer from the states, I had no idea about age restrictions on motorcycle licenses in the UK. I am curious if there are statistics that justify this level of bureaucratic overreach or if it was implemented without any meaningful reduction in motorcycle accidents/fatalities?
We live in a deeply repressive country in many ways........
The harley x440 rides great ,good torque,handled nicely,but doesn't give harley vibes from the back and also has quality issues mostly regarding the fit and finish and the exhaust Design compared to the triumph its night and day difference, harley will win in sales across the rural areas considering there's thousands of hero dealership selling and servicing them, triumph has a very limited reach with only few dealership across India which will grow in future
Spot on about the design part ,RE has perfected the 'modern retro' even better than Triumph !
Man, the RE and the Triumphs are so good looking. The Harley, less so. I do hope the Harley does better than the Street 500/750 when/if is comes to America. It's not _that_ bad looking.
Haha, you Brits, and EU, all I had to do in the States to have my license get an M (motorcycle cert) on it was to ride my Harley to the office, ride it up a dirt road, turn around and ride it back to the bored guy smoking a cigarette and looking for his pen and voila, I'm good!
thx,
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Freddie Dobbs make the point that the Triumph is a gateway to other bigger Triumph but the Classic is a destination in its own right. I think he is spot on...whether that applies to the Harley too...not sure but as always many thanks for a superb video.
I would enjoy seeing the power and torque curves, for any set of compared bikes we’re talking about, superimposed. I enjoy your reviews, and your perspective, and I genuinely love the Classic 350. And I am far from a young, thoughtless power-punk. But here in Colorado, USA, just going for breakfast takes me to 8,000ft (about 2,500M), and even paved passes can be 10,000ft (3,000M, plus.) That’s before getting on mountain two-track and trails. I understand long- versus short-stroke engines, but would very much like to ride the Triumph for a real-world feel. If its torque curve is reasonably flat, meaning there’s some in the 3- to 4-thousand basement, then I wouldn’t turn down a SEA-LEVEL 40 HP on a 400 cc single. Thanks for reading. John
Totally agree on your thoughts on bike aesthetics - I think Royal Enfield has the most style in spades. I've seen some Triumphs I really like too, but for the life of me I cannot fathom how an American brand like Indian doesn't make a retro bike whatsoever. People are into them for their history, not to buy their modern monstrosities. I want that flat bench style seat and upright riding profile. Over here in the USA, there really aren't any bikes doing the retro vibe well except Enfields and they are harder to find. I'm lucky to have a Signals 350 - I get asked about the bike ALL the time! This happens from random strangers who are non-riders to moto enthusiasts. It just proves your point - great style is so much more compelling that overdone performance.
I feel that the RE Hunter would be the one to be reviewed and compared to the Triumph and the Harley, all of them aim for the younger rider that wants a touch of "retro". The classic design on the other hand is timeless, rugged but sofisticated, it is a rare combination of agricultural and classy feeling.
Absolutely true
You're doing an awesome job with this presentation of these bikes as usually, Ol'Man 👍
I'd love to see you review the Fantic caballero 500. I also love the older designs from the 80's and found the Fantic to be a perfect modern day XT500 replacement.
I would take the Royal Enfield over both the Harley or Triumph. The Enfield would make the better day to day bike. It has the looks, the heritage and the reliability. It will be by far the cheapest to own and maintain. A clear winner i.m.o 👍
Royal Enfield all the way. It looks the nicest, is priced reasonably and has the "feel". HD comes last in this round-up, with Triumph (read Bajaj) somewhere in between... but there's a long lead. I'm waiting to see if my years of waiting for a new, more powerful, classic Bullet pays off (several prototypes have been spotted over the past few years). All the best.
Aside: It seems many don't seem to care about the companies or details - and, judging from a number of comments here, facts. There is a lot of misinformation in this thread, mostly regarding Royal Enfield. While we all do it from time to time, it'd be nice if people stopped talking out of their ***es.
I have to say that I am not generally a fan of HD styling. The last HD that I actually like the look of, was the XLCR. Whilst I wouldn't say the X440 is a work or art, it's certainly more to my tastes than their usual offerings.
I wholeheartedly agree on your views on the decline of design quality. Let's just hope that some designers hear this and take it to heart: It is not THAT hard to design a beautiful motorbike. Don't the designers ever see their bikes, after a number plate has been mounted? It completely ruins the looks in some cases, and I would be appalled as a designer, if this ever happened to one of my creations...
I wholeheartedly agree with the sentiment regarding design and aesthetics. Moderm bikes offer an array of redundant electronics within a sea of plastic and tacky add ons. That being said, I do think it is a real shame RE couldnt or won't squeeze more power out of the 350 engine. It is not great being tailgated by cars and not having the power to get out of tricky situations. I think that will tempt a lot of riders towards the triumph. Besides look, it is the better bike.
Very thoughtful review! Well done.
Nice analysis you have made dear Ol'man. Three Major Motorcycles brands with 350cc-440cc excellent selection options to new buyers.Very useful briefing you gave in this video 🎉
They both look crrrrap. Long live Classic 350!
Royal Enfield have the privilege and position of producing “retro” continuously over more than 100 years. What a pedigree!
I really like the look of Triumph's 400 Scrambler. I don't think it will feel a revvy bike but it is a modern classic. The Harley looks awful, like all their new models and the RE is too heavy and underpowered. I'll give that one a miss.
With the exception of the inverted fork, I think the Triumphs look very much period correct to the late 60s and early 70s. I’ve already got an order in for 400 X even though it will not be in the United States until January or February. I contemplated purchasing Scram or and Interceptor, but I’m going to keep my 08 T100 and my 09900 Scrambler and add the new 400x
watching your videos since a year, gotta say good knowledge and love your content. Im from India and the triumph bike has already been overbooked 10k+ bookings while harley has not even crossed 5k. royal engfield is king here but only coz we dont have options like after 500cc royal enfiled any options we have are too damn high prices . there are few options in 600-1000c range in classic ,cruiser style
I have had my 2022, classic 350 and gunmetal gray for a little over a year. Coming up on 3800 miles with no issues whatsoever other than replacing the speedo as they had some problems with a few. I do all the maintenance myself, including the tappets. Thats something I really love about this bike. Yes, I would love to have more horsepower. But for what it is, it’s an incredibly fun, enjoyable, and smooth ride. I could be mistaken, but I have heard that a classic 650 is going to debut in 2024. I would buy one in a heartbeat. Cheers from the Pacific Northwest!
I always assumed that the plastic bit at the back was to position the numberplate and indicators in the correct position, so in other parts of the world it isn't used?
Well, I am glad that HD is taming things down a bit. With the cost of their big V twins this bike is a very good buy...
I don't think the Harley Davidson really comes into the equation as according to 'cycle world ' it is only been produced for the home Indian market only, with no plans at the moment for export to any other countries 🤔
To meet regulations the number plate/lights must be behind the rear wheel hence the extension.
oh my god, who had the idea to create such a discordant Harley. The Royal and the Triumph are motorcycles. Perfect👌💚🤍❤️
As a young guy looking for his first classic style or classic scrambler style motorcycle. I completley agree with you. Iv been looking into the 400x scram, but the gold forks on the front really kill the looks for me and the little plastic buts too. Id love to have a RE 350 classic scrambler to have the beautiful old looks and the ability to go off road on trails a little bit. (And deal with our horrific roads here in canada). I hope companies come to their senses about the looks of bikes. The 400x is better for what im looking for but the looks I just cant warm up to.
Thanks for the great video.
As an ageing biker who has had all the big bikes, I demo'd a Hunter at the weekend. Really liked it but just wanted a little bit more on fast roads. I have put a deposit on the Triumph, but if the demo or price doesn't impress, I will switch to the Hunter.
The Triumph has a short stroke motor but the torque curve is pretty flat, it makes 32nm at 3k revs, quite a bit more than the Hunter and not far off the Harley and it is 20kg lighter. So knowing the Hunter is OK at low rev, I know the Triumph should be impressive too.
Triumph has enough torque to climb a hill
There's a video i can share where the rider tested its torque in 1st and 2nd gear without accelerating much and it did well
Couldn't agree more with you on your comments about motorcycle design , designers certainly seem to have lost the plot on the aesthetics front, there are some beautiful looking bikes out there that are visually wrecked by the manufacturers fitting a carbuncle to the back end of the bike with lights and a number plate attached, when you ask the manufactures why they insist on fitting these monstrosities to their bikes, they shrug and tell you its 'EU Safety Legislation' !! the only upside is it inspires the inner rebel in some of us to 'flick' the bureaucrats in Brussels/London the proverbial bird and fit a tail tidy and small number plate 😅
Thanks to watching your video, I realized the true beauty of a classic motorcycle. Really in terms of performance, perhaps Triump and HD will be much higher than RE, but in terms of beauty, convenience, maintenance, as well as a smile when sitting on the car, RE is still the best. Thank you very much . Nice videos
Out of the 3 bikes I'm only interested in the Triumph Scrambler. I think Harley missed out on making a true retro bike like you 350. They have great designs for the late 30's and all of the 40's and give it hidden or none hidden suspension. Which I think is a great lost. It could of been easily converted into a Bobber look as well. So to me your making your 350 look better to me. I hear a rumor that there maybe a 650 classic coming out 🤔 Would it just look sorta like Meteor....
I agree with all you have said. Thanks for the video. Cheers from NYC USA.
Can't argue with your opinion on the added plastic bits. Horrible look and the first place to get bashed and covered in everything thrown up by the rear wheel. I'll never understand mud guards that don't actually guard against mud. The design extras don't tick any boxes for me either. I'm OK with the gold forks because I see a lot of that here in the US. I think the Triumphs will price according to their good market in the US, and Harley will always be the most expensive. I'm most enamored with the RE Classic in the livery you have in front of you, but you can't go wrong with a bit more power. Aftermarket intake and exhaust can solve that... But at what cost? That was a fun episode. Thanks for what you do and keep it up...
Hopefully popularity in these smaller retros will see more Japanese models, CB350RS for UK?
Yes please. North America too.
Let's see if I can jog your memory with this " If it's not broke, please don't fix it" example. Triumph TR6... Gorgeous. TR7... OMG WHY??? 😎
A lot of people would love a 500 cc classic Enfield based on the J platform ...unfortunately i dont think they will make it ...low sales i India .....however look at the Q J 500cc its like the Benelli but with 480cc motor shorter stroke bigger bore ..it looks and sounds exactly what a lot of people want ....i have asked if they are coming to Europe ....we will see
The RE Classic 350 is the clear winner of these three for me.
The Zontes 350 GK is something I'd consider around 40bhp, however doesnt have Scrambler tyres.
Id def have the classic 350 but I have a Himalien so am biased😅
P.s agree re the modern design plus the obsession with beaks. If you own a modern adv in Brum you are a beaky blinder.
In terms of design, I think, more it looks like geometric shapes like circle, triangle or square, more the design is pretty. Modern designs have all sorts of nameless shapes in them.
The Triumph should be compared to the RE Hunter 350 as they will compete for the same young buyers, the Classic 350 is more for old timers.
Yes I forgot about that until I’d finished making the video!
The tank of the HD looks like it shrunk in the wash. What's with that big gap between the tank and the headstock area? Also I understand that everyone on TH-cam wants to release a video when a new bike comes out, but it's kinda funny that there are so many comparison videos of these three when only one of them is actually available for sale or to ride.
Does the Triumph look sporty and have plenty of power from a water-cooled engine? Sure. Does the Harley fit a gap in the market for them? Yeah. Would I like more HP outta my Classic? You bet. Have either of those Indian manufacturers been building bikes for almost 70 years... You get my point.
The classic in video is just amazing looking , all the other bikes are just okay looking
Honda CB 350 Highness is the only bike which competes with the classic 350 visually as well as power wise.
Yes beautiful. Unfortunately not available in EU/UK
I think the Honda may be coming to the UK, and it would be on my short-list.
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Actually, the Harley's seat and handler bar reach seem tailored for the taller person. Shorter folks will be sitting forward on the seat considering the reach of the factory set up handle bar, and thereby not utilising the full seat.
I had to laugh when you said "pigs ear". Not a saying I hear over on this side of the pond. I agree with you about those gold colored forks, what were the designers thinking? When you have your hat on backwards just tell people you are switching over to overdrive mode. LOL.
I'm definitely waiting for the price of the Triumph.
It's just me looks wise.
But if they get greedy i will go and get the Hunter I've been eyeing up for ages.
If Triumph hadn't put this spanner in the works I'd probably have already bought it.
The Triumph is in a different class. Twice the power, a more modern bike. If the Scrambler is no more than £5500 I'm having one.
@@splodge5714 I know the Triumph is better but I fear the scrambler version will be £6k and I can't justify the extra £2,200 when it's a bike I'm probably only going to ride at speed limits anyway. I need a new car and only have a 20k budget for both.
I've seen 6k estimated for the scrambler and £5,500 for the speed 400 and I don't think they are far off.
Strongly agree with the part.. useless plastic bits being added spoil the looks
The Classic 350's and Classic 500's are built so strong and so reliable that people take these bikes on off-road to high altitudes like Himalayas, Spitti vally, leh Ladakh and tallest mountains in india where you barely see any roads for 100's of miles and it is the most common bike on those mountain ranges. You should check it out on TH-cam. ☺️
Tbh you could find even Hero splendor, pulsar, apache and all other india bikes too in the Himalyas, Indians will take whatever is available to them. Pre-j platform enfield were notorious for having VERY poor quality and they used break down A lot.
I have a Classic that I love but need a 2nd bike that I will be riding on a different continent Europe.The Triumph looks great but I'm still torn between the Meteor and Hunter. I also do not want to tie up too much money in the second bike. The thought of a 450 RE sounds tempting also, considering second hand to get me by 😮
Now that I'm seeing Triumph and Harley with Classic 350, Classic really looks gorgeous with that beautiful tank and whole bike looks perfect. Can't really say that about Triumph and Harley new bikes but I believe they are aimed at different people.
About motorcycles and design. Bikes from the 60s and 70s (and older) are build to function. Every part is there for a functional reason but the parts are designed to be pleasing to the eye. Nothing is really there just for looks. Nowadays design goes before function. The only real exceptions are Royal Enfields especially the 350 Classic.
Gracias por los subtítulos Ol Man.. same as You i preffer torquey bikes, more than a revy motor.. so, the Classic is the Best option. Beside it got the Best look 👍., Sorry for My Bad English. Hoping You please activated espanish subtitles😅 love your videos..
i want to confess something , i like BMW R18 what people thinks may differ from our opnion but R18 its a engineering beauty ❤❤❤
I think the HD will be an utter fail. Love the look of the Triumph Scrambler X.
I agree they used to make the rear end lovely now there an eyesore, we should get up a petition to all the manufacturers to design proper backends👍🏍
Very informative... I would have liked a old fashion mud-gaurd and a dual suspension in the rear. I think the only good choice apart from RE is Yezdi and Jawa. I hope Triumph + Bajaj build a proper cruiser like 'Avenger' / 'Eliminator' which looks awesome too!
BTW Current Avenger 220 makes similar amount of power as RE classic 350, and is lighter, however it is not a long stroke Engine. Avenger 220 can take 400 cc Engine too.
Scram 411 is the ideal mix for taller riders if you can make peace with the fact that it does not have the same curb appeal of the classic350
Triumph is a game changer at the right price. The power level is bang on for a midrange bike, just enough to make things interesting.
With a red line of something like 10,000 you'll have to rev the tits off it to get that power. It won't be a relaxing bike to ride, and the reports coming out of India from the first tests of production bikes suggest it isn't a very pleasant engine at higher revs. Given that I expect it to cost pretty much the same as an Interceptor it may not be the huge success than some are predicting. We shall have to see.
No torque and h.p. is all at high rpm
@@deltabluesdavidraye No tourqe - 30% more than the Enfield just 2000 rpm higher. I'd wager it won't be far away from the Enfield at the Enfields sweet spot, but having to pull 29Kg less.
A side by side will tell. But it will end up being about the price point.
@@deltabluesdavidraye 10 Nm more than the RE just 200rpm higher. with 20Kg less weight. Id wager the curves at the RPM are virtually identical, in which case there will be only one winner in a roll on.
I really want to like the triumphs, but after they went water cooled it was all over for me. Ill take the Enfield thanks.
I think Triumph do a great job making their watercooled classic engines look air-cooled. No one else comes near.
I think all these bike fall in different categories it will not affect sales of either because all of them targets it’s customers well . Another bike that’s available in India is Honda CB350 it’s good
To my eyes the Harley is not very pretty. The Triumph has classy, classic looks and the RE looks old fashioned, which was probably the design brief. I also agree with you about the bejazzling of the Triumph. That was unnecessary and provided little in the way of aesthetics. So which would I choose? In order of preference based on looks it would be Triumph first and then RE.
I agree with the plastic bit they put behind the mud guard. Looks like a after thought and totally screws up the look of the bike... if it had any to begin with.
Love the look of the Classic 350 but I'd definitely choose Triumph in this case!
RE shot themselves in the foot for me. I love the Himalayan, love the Continental, love the Hunter, love the Classic. So can't decide which to go for, so just stuck with my Suzuki GS550.
About the plastic bit they put behind the mud guard, as you say not attractive but someting to do with regulations and the distance over the back wheel the light has to be.
Yes true, but if you look at the Royal Enfield Classic in this video, it complies by having the mudguard extending over the wheel, thus negating the need for a plastic addition, and it functions far better
I prefer light nimble and easy to maneuver bike with sufficient power as i live in a hillstation.(North India)
Ps- i have a 98 model standard royal enfield and yamaha rx100 92 (had a gt650 icequeen royal enfield but sold it after 2 years).
So keeping my priorities in mind booked speed 400.
I just hope it doesnt dissapoint me 🤞🙊.
And yes my 98 standard cries on uphill even without a pillion and whereas my rx100 doesn't.
It's obvious: Triumph and HD are playing catch up in the small capacity retro/classic market. RE has it over them in this space.
The RE is a Legendary one, and definitely its my choice
I like the little 350 new Honda but 2:41 why are these bikes using upside down forks they are susceptible to pitting and more damage, and oil may leak out faster when worn seals. I don't know.