Is The Triumph Speed 400 Really THAT Good?
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- Is The Triumph Speed 400 Really THAT Good?
I've seen many videos heaping praise onto the new Triumph Speed 400. Is this little single really that good, or is it overhyped? Join me as I try to answer this question!
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USofA based. I was looking at the Enfields and KTM 390s for a light play bike to do a hundred miles or so on a nice afternoon. I love my Tiger Explorer and, while it's absolutely lovely for an 8,000 mile ride, it's a bit much for a short jaunt. Triumph announced the 400s and I was completely taken by the appearance. I've been riding since 1961 and this brought me back to the days of my misspent (but thoroughly enjoyed) youth.
I bought one and it has far exceeded my expectations. Absolutely lovely and if I grab a bit too much throttle, it won't launch me into the middle of next week. I'm in northern Virginia and there are a lot of great little roads that go over the Appalachian mountains and along the rivers. This bike is perfect for them. I did put a tail tidy on mine to get rid of that absurd tail. Looks much nicer. IMHO.
Glad you're enjoying the bike! Good to hear. 👌
Got my Blue Speed 400 last week as a second bike but now riding it all the time
I absolutely love it no problems whatsoever love the graphics on the tank and for UNDER £5000 its the bike bargain of the century
Nice, and you went for the very underrated blue! Enjoy and ride safe!
I got the scrambler version of this as a second bike, and its so much fun to ride. My poor liter bike is just sitting around while I'm having fun on the Triumph. It will absolutely do pretty much anything outside of track days. Its light, lively, sounds great, handles well and you can absolutely wring its neck on the throttle with fearing massively breaking every speed limit out there.
I can only recommend getting a test-ride on one.
Hello, I am the owner of a Speed 400. Over the past few days, I have driven 1500 km, and the more I ride it, the more I like it, especially in the city and on country roads. My favorite gears are 3rd, 4th, and 5th. Keep the engine RPM between 6000 and 8000, and you'll experience the true pleasure this engine offers. The suspension and brakes are good. I noticed that the speedometer has a fairly large error, which is a minor downside for this great motorcycle. It would also be nice if the Triumph dealership offered more accessories. Or if other companies like Akrapovic, Rizoma, etc. would provide some.
I am sure in time third parties will catch up.
Hey man, do you face any like the radiator suddenly buzzing way too much ??
Why do people always suggest that 40 bhp from a 400 is not a lot? It's good for over 100 mph somewhere...400 2 strokes of the late 70s and 80s were producing slightly less, and we talk of their performances: this is a single cylinder 4 stroke? Pretty amazing. Seems to go very well in your film and enough to go anywhere, anyhow?
Yeah this bike is crazy good performance for the cost, and the build quality is up there. Thanks!
Phew! That is good as I pick my one up next week from Bulldog Triumph. I test rode the same one as you. Loved it, so ordered a black and grey one a couple of months ago. 👍
I want one because it has the brand new "assist n slitcher" clutch. 👌
My father just bought one yesterday! I guess he decided he wanted something light and nimble to rip around the city but either way, videos like this are what sold him on it. It's such a fantastic machine for the price. Of course it has a few little things that could be different or better but that applies to just about any machine (car or motorcycle). 39.5 hp for a 400 is really solid. I owned a 2009 Kawi KLX250SF and I swear that thing had at best 20 hp, but it was still a blast to ride.
Yes your review dose help, I am been thinking of buying one. Next I am going to book a test drive. Thanks for a very fine review.
Glad it was helpful!
Great looking bike Dan you guys in england have great fun on the bike
We try!
I have to say for the money it’s an amazing bike and I’ve done over a 1,000 miles on one
It's been 15 days i got this bike same colour. Enjoying it each and every time i take it for a ride.. It is my daily office commute and i reach office in just 10 minutes which earlier took me 20.
Nice review thank you sir
Thanks for watching!
I've been waiting for this! I'm so torn between this and something a bit bigger like a Trident as my 2nd bike (first being my XSR125 for CBT)
I can't see you getting bored of this 400 tbh.
I have a speed 400 and have covered 400 miles so far and really like it.
At motorway speeds 70 mph the mirrors on mine do vibrate you can see shapes but there is nothing sharp about it
But at 60 it’s all clear.
You are correct about it being a bit snatched the odd Time at slow speeds in low gear but nothing to write home about.
I am 5”2’ with 28 inside leg and with a slight shift of the hips can get a good foot planted.
The 400X would have been just tall for me.
But the speed 400 has been a great wee bike good looks good handling good brakes good fuel consumption great price.
A comparison with the CB300R would be interesting.
@EnglishBikerDan, this review reminded me of your Honda CB300R review. I'm really curious to know how the two bikes compare to each other, and what reason(s) you would choose one over the other. Obviously, the Speed 400 has a little more power and torque, but the real world performance for someone like me (5'7" and 165 lbs) seems like it's nearly the same...?
Good looking bike. Thanks for the review Dan. I had a CB300R about four years ago and that was fun too if you kept it on the boil. The two 400's probably appeal to a different customer than the Royal Enfield J series bikes. The 350 has half the power and prefers plodding. I've slowed down quite a bit lately, so my Classic 350 suits me. But if the Speed 400 had been available when I bought my CB300R I'd have found it hard to refuse 😊
My favourite route between Odiham and Hursley through the Candover valley. Perfect for the Speed 400.
Thank you for the review! I love your gloves! Could you tell me the brand? Keep the rubberside down!✌🏼
Richa Cruiser 2 gloves. :)
Thank you good sir!
@@Englishbikerdan Good brand have Richa gear myself, no problems.
I am hoping to buy a scrambler as I have owned lots of Triumphs in the past but I must admit I have a couple of reservations. I sold my tiger a few years ago mainly because of the weight and bought a KTM 390 ADV. It's a bit lighter than the Triumph 400 and on a run to Portugal I I was getting somewhere between 75-80mpg which on a long run could make the Triumph quite a bit more expensive to run at only 60mpg. I have alway managed to get 200 miles to a tank and also there is a bit more wind protection and luggage options.
I've had a test ride on the Scrambler and found that it was not a lot different to to the KTM although a bit easier to flatfoot. The KTM will out accelerate it by a small margin but not enough to make a huge difference. The main selling points for me are the service intervals and price, when I bought the KTM 3 years ago there was nothing as cheap as it for the technology and for adventure riding on the highway and mild off roading. Now there are a few bikes around this price range. The KTM is due a valve adjustment which considering the cost of the last three services will be ridiculously expensive and a lot of his would be negated as the Triumph has longer service intervals and the valve clearance is not such a problem on them, also buying a new bike I will have warranty for the first couple of years. So still a bit indecisive, have looked at the 450 Himalayan but it's a bit heavier, although as it comes with a back rack and top crash bars that has to be taken into consideration. I have also looked into the CFMOTO 450MT which has been getting rave reviews but not very easy to get hold of yet and not really proved in the long term although they are tied in with KTM and I've not had any problems with mine.
I'm also waiting for the 450MT but it has actually been taken off the CFMoto website here in France. The local dealer said they were expecting the first bikes in June but it looks like there might be delays.
My SYM Fiddle is 108 mpg, I like any bikes to be frugal at £7.60 per gallon
I am torn between the Enfield 350 and Triumph 400, but MPG will be a deciding factor.
With regard to the seat...during my 40 years of motorcycling, with 19 different machines of all types, I have never found a motorcycle seat that wasn't uncomfortable after 90 minutes.
Yeah, I agree with this.
IIRC the Triumph throttle is an electrical one. The 'fly by wire' throttles just politely ask the ECU if you can go a bit faster please, and sometimes the ECU says no. or maybe in a minute.....
is it possible at all, to find out what engine oil and grade they use in Britain and update?
I sat on one of these in the dealership and I defiantly feel that the hand position is good however I'm not a fan of how far forward the pegs feel.
My daily is a Street Triple and I'm used to the semi aggressive position but I feel this 400 could have been maybe an inch or two further back on the pegs. I almost think the passenger pegs are possible to ride with.
Can't say I had any issues with the riding position, I found it comfortable even on full days in the saddle. But we're all built different!
I love mine, just a great little bike. Having loads of fun with it. And I 'trained' myself to get it going in 2nd gear as the 1st is useless, so basically I'm driving it as a 5 gear, way more relaxed.
@EnglishBikerDan which bike do you prefer between the Royal Enfield hunter 350 and Triumph speed 400. Btw nice video!!
I'd have to go with the Triumph. Lighter and a bit more playful. I feel the Hunter offers a different riding experience, more chilled.
The Triumph is more versatile than the Enfield. It depends on what you can afford though. Triumph has longer service intervals and ridden gently will easily achieve 75 mpg which is what it returned on my 1 hour test ride. And I did open it up but not for the whole ride.
@@stevebolton8471I couldn’t get excited about 75 mpg from a 400. When touring on my 500X it averages somewhere between low 80s and low 90s mpg and on local rides manages even more.
@@davidmatthews3093 That’s great performance from your 500x
Great video. It is this bike or the KTM 390 adventure for me. Strange contrast I know, but it is because my heart is with the sound and looks of the Triumph (I have a little Suzuki Tu250x and I love it), but my head is with all the extra technology on the KTM. Roads where I now live are mountainous, twisty and sometimes gravelly to say the least. I'm riding my Suzuki on them and increasing my skills, but it seems the KTM might be a better back up than the Triumph for me if they fail?
Got one yesterday…yes it’s great!
Watching this it reminds me of my old 390duke. Try as i might the i could never get s ton out of it. I think that might be slightly quicker than this though?
I blame this riders slightly extra weight. Damn you Christmas.
This chap is a Jedi.... he waved his hand and that blue car vanished... incredible....
Hello there.
@@Englishbikerdan General Kenobi!
Supermoto and Enduro style bikes with this motor would be good Mr Triumph👍
I like Scrambley
How often the ABS 'intrudes' is all down to your tyres and the road surface, the ABS only cuts in when the wheel stops rotating and is skidding, so bad tyres or slippery road mean ABS will cut in more.
Yes, i have one too. Do you experience buzzing through the handlebars? I have a lot of vibes through my handlebars, enough that my hands become numb after a while. Also the throttle is herky jerky. Other than that, it’s good for the price. Thanks for sharing!
It's a single with 40HP, so vibes at higher revs are to be expected. I've ordered some Grip Puppy grip covers, and will also pick up some gel filled riding gloves. Hopefully this will help.
@@johnstone7697 That’s what a continue to hear, about singles but my little Hunter 350 didn’t buzz, which still amazes me. I’ve wrapped my grips, took it for a longer spin. It seems (maybe just in my head or wishful thinking) less vibes. Will look into other gloves as well. Thanks for the response.
@@johnstone7697 and if you find the chance, please let me know if it improves, thanks again.
@@ElwoodPDowd-ed7pc The Hunter is a long stroke single, not a high compression revvy single like the Speed 400. If you try out the Himalayan 450, you will feel the vibes as that engine is similar.
@@the_winged_helm now that you mention it, it does make sense … thanks so much for your input!
Looks really good. Could be my next bike 👀
Good choice!
it was either this bike or the CF Moto 450NK, I'm so glad I went for the CF Moto
I like the look of the bike.
Most intelligent people do..😏😏.
I'd like to test ride this, and the Husky Svartpilen 400, which reportedly does not have the high RPM vibration issues like the Triumph has.
I was interested in these Triumph 400's, and I get to see a lot of bikers in my job, very recently seen a few of these 400's start to come through and I ask the riders about them, but so far it's not been a great look.
The last guy I spoke to about his Scrambler 400 laughed and then told me how he picked it up brand new last week and it already broke down after 17 miles, and another guy I recently spoke to about his Speed 400 was also starting to have issues after only having put about 1500 miles on it. I'm a Triumph die hard myself, own a Speed Four and a TT600, both have eaten so much money and driven me to the poverty line with their issues and faults over the years 😂(still love them though!), but I must admit, from the people i've met, I'm kind of let down by these 400's which is a shame, generally seeing loads of praise for them online, but people I meet with them have had issues fairly early on.
Here's hoping these are just teething problems, new model quirks that just need ironing out, nice looking bikes though.
Mine has been absolutely fine a few have had software problems which is now sorted with an update but like any new big seller there will be problems
I'm very interested in this bike, but would hate to switch my 3-year-old Yamaha MT-03 for one, only to find that I prefer the Yam. A test ride is not really long enough to get a proper feel for the bike, and I have not come across anyone who has done a direct comparison with an MT-03.....
Must stock bikes need an aftermarket seat as makers thin out the padding to reduce seat height...
Those are some beautiful gloves, what brand are they?
Richa Cruiser 2. :)
12:40 "This is the seat." 😄
Bringing you good info yes? 😂
Tested the Scrambler. Decent for a 400 at the price point. Nimble, good at low revs, and can pull up to 150kmh and a bit more on a flat road but the vibration.... kicks in at around 120kmh, felt it on the bars and seat. It's the thumpy type of vibration, not the buzzy type like some 4 cylinders, but they are pretty pronounced as the speed goes up.
The Speed 400 is a tad more nimble with a narrower handlebar making it easier to split lanes.
Small roads ok, highways not so.
Having completed my license on a MT-07, I was spoiled by it's power and fun, and now am skeptical of why would one go for this instead of getting the SV650 for less than 1k gbp more (thanks to mad deals on remaining stock, at least here in poland). Any ideas? What does this bike (or bikes of this class in general) do better than the slightly bigger ones?
Taste and opinions are subjektive. I am 100% with you. i do favor the SV650, XSR700 and Trident 660 over this T400/400x, even considering the 1-2k higher price.
I think Triumph's have a different appeal to the other Japanese brands. I think they rely a little more on heritage and nostalgia, at least here in the UK. But this is a solid bike, especially at the price.
SV 650 is 60 lbs. heavier and doesn't have that highly "flickable" feel. Styling to me is not very attractive at all. And price in the States is $3000 more than the Speed 400. They really appeal to different buyers.
Fuel economy and reduced weight?
@@stevebolton8471also in the UK the 400 is £54 ved the 650 is £117 so more the double
After watching almost a hundred reviews and riding it in person, you are the first person saying this has stiff suspensions. I do not understand why.
Bro high time to review again this year's Honda 750 adv scooter bro
Happy owner of Speed 400 here..
Note that this Indian Co called Bajaj makes more motorcycles in a month than Triumph makes in a year.. Also, Bajaj owns almost 50% stake in KTM !
I love the “95 mph… in Mexico” even you’re in the UK 😅😂
Saw one today the silly gob was running just the straight pipe sounded like shit and for all the noise it was fighting itself to gain any speed
Ugh that's not needed at all. These bikes will sound awful with loud pipes.
Do they sell windscreen for that model?
Yes. Pop over to the Triumph site configurator.
Haha I love it how you gotta make a point that this bike is still capable of overtaking. It's a 400cc engine with around 40 hp - plenty enough to overtake and ride in a spirited way.
You'd be amazed how many people think this bike can't overtake anything. 😂
I saw this in the flesh. Next to a speed twin 900. I thought the 400 looked the better built bike.
The speed twin 900 bar and mirrors looked odd and weedy. The switch gear on the speed twin 900 also looked cheap too.
The 400 looked so much better with bar end mirrors and an over size bar. And it's switch gear appeared to look more substantial.
Need your review on the 2024 Honda CB650R! When is that coming? ✌
Not too long now.
@@Englishbikerdan Sweet! Thank you!
I've just placed an order for the blue Street 400.
Took one out for a test ride.
Only bad point was the lean angle with the side stand down.
You can see it on your video.
It's just too upright.
These bikes will topple over with a gust of wind...
Super Popular!
Sure is!
Mine would not start the first day that i got it. Got it to the shop and they i guess fixed it and now it is doing it all over again and it is back in the shop again. I made a video of what it is doing on my channel. I would turn the key to start and and got nothing, i would then turn it off and turn it back on and it would fire right up. It does this ALL THE TIME!!
That's a shame, hope you get it sorted!
I've had nothing but issues with my speed 400 since I bought it three weeks ago in the UK. The engine cut out at 65mph in 6th gear, then numerous times in 2nd. Now it's currently in my garage unable to start with a load of warning lights on the dash and unable to detect a gear, I've requested to return it for a full refund. Apparently Triumph are aware of these electrical faults and there are a lot of issues being reported on owners forums but very little discussed on any youtube reviews.
That's a shame, hope you get it sorted!
The best part is you can do 30mph in 6th as well. Just open throttle and low end torque pulls hard
I generally sit around 30 in 6th no issues at all
I think you are damaging the engine with that kind of riding.
@@grtbgf it is sitting at around 2500 to 3000 rpm which is above the idle rpm so not an issue I guess.
@@nandadityaswami7452 Idle rpm has nothing to do with it. You are putting too much pressure on the piston rods when accelerating from low rpm rather then higher rpm. Bikes are designed to sit higher in the rev range when riding.
@@grtbgf I'll take care going ahead, thanks
You might be bogging the engine a bit doing that, but I'm no mechanic!
I'm looking at a second bike and I cannot decide between this one and the Scrambler 400 X.
Get the 500 Hornet, wonderful and cheap to run
Scarm is really good
@@rogerkay8603 compared to a single cylinder triumph, I doubt that . This bike was made by Bajaj , they make frugal and reliable bikes.
@@rogerkay8603 - I'm sure it is a good bike, but the styling does nothing for me.
Test both and see what you think. Both are great but offer a slightly different experience.
Thanks nice bike , but we have to ride in crap weather invariably and they seem not to put any mudguards on modern bikes.
Until they do I won’t buy.
It's an easy fix tbh though.
New riders better off with this or a trident 660?
It looks the business.
I own one. The 1-2 shifting sucks. The sweet spot for the engine is 45-55mph.
Outside India, all bikes are built from Triumph factory- in Thailand.
I came for a speed 400 and left the dealer for a speed twin 900 :)
Haha great choice either way! Enjoy!
Please compare this bike to CB500F. Drive it since years. Before I tested the ktm390 and found it horrible: You take gas and feel fast, but if you watch the tacho it was just 60.
This…? Or a second hand Trident with double the bhp and a sweet triple engine?
Well that's up to you. Apples and oranges comparison really.
It won't set the world on fire, but 40 hp and 170 kilos wet still make for a very decent power-to-weight ratio. Plus just over 5k for all the tech and modern features that are on offer... and for a Triumph? Seems like a bit of a bargain. I wonder if we have RE to thank (at least in part) for Triumph producing this bike - seems to be aimed straight at folks eyeing the Interceptor or Conti GT.
I wonder how it compares to the Scram 411🤔
Very different, the Scramber 400X is probably closer.
Problem with the bike is it's got an 820 seat height I know I own one and measured it.....hence too tall for my wife to ride also
bit of a dog after my Ducati, but it'll do...seems like a toy...pretty to look at...3,4,5 gear are responsive but certainly nothing that will pull you off the handlebars...very light and nimble...
Love the style but at 185cm I am too big for it. It feels like a kid's bike when I sit on it. I prefer tall dual sport bikes.
I definitely don't have that issue! :D
You “heard” 95 miles is achievable 🙄😂 always nice watching your videos Dan
Ahem, so I heard. Thanks!
Hitting only 115 on my 1200, 95 seems impossibly slow.
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Well I threw my leg over one at local dealer and quickly got off it and even quicker got back on my on my speed twin and rode home , didn’t need to ride just a totally wrong sit for me no need to ride it , tried the scrambler 400 and that was awful 😅 each to their own I guess
So you think a bike is awful, just by sitting on it and not riding it? Well, each to their own as you say!
It's a Bajah !
The ABS will only make itself noticeable if you actually lock up a wheel. Simply braking hard will not actuate the ABS.
While what you say makes sense, it's not been my experience. Some systems tend to get themselves involved really early on (SV650) even with no tyre lock up. Other systems, you can't even tell they are on when the tyres are actually locking up (Triumph).
Throttle lever has turbolag 🤪
Haha!
No but it’s a fair price for what it is. You wouldn’t want to go any real distance as your hands would be numb for hours
Those jeans will come off on quicker than a brides nighty on that tarmac then skin then a bit of bone even at 50/60mph. Take the advice or leave it get some leather mate.
They are Rokkertec bike jeans, kevlar lined and with D30 impact protection. Not as good as leather in an off, but it's my choice to wear them. But thanks for your concern.
To many problems with this model . Look at the forums. Not for me.
I've not looked at forums, but I'd guess if you add them up and then look at how many bikes they've sold, it's a tiny fraction. All new bikes have teething issues.
Look at the problems BMW have. I'm surprised people buy them.
Great bike but my 500 Hornet shades it.
Thanks , no one asked
Well, you are slightly biased. What I would say is those two bikes offer something different in terms of riding experience.
deadmou5
Of course its over hyped. Its a new model so everone is talking about it. Makes sense
Much emphasis on the origins of the bike. But is this important? The only bikes KTM makes are the off-road bikes and the big stuff. Small stuff is made by Bahaj and the mid weight products by CF Moto. Only the 1000CC road bikes are actually made in Austria. Triumph gets one bike toll manufactured and people lose their minds😂😂😂
Its too small for that price 😢
I think it's strange that mainstream bike journos refuse to compare it with the duke 390 and new husky. Both are way quicker, loaded with tech and come out cheaper (at least in Australia).
Speed is actually 20% cheaper to those bikes everywhere else...5:6
Duke 390, Husqvarnas 400, and the Triumphs are made in the same Bajaj factory.
It is because they don't go up straight against each other
I think they appeal to different customers tbh.
These are retro bikes aimed at a different buyer IMHO. These aren't for younger riders, they're for older riders wanting to tame things down a bit with a smaller bike.
sorry to hear that this is a cheep bike, you repeat it several times. Please give it some more credit, it is actually brilliant
Watch the video again, I heap praise on the thing.
Wow, can see you hopping around the Bajaj issue like it's made by an inferior company. Bajaj owns nearly half of KTM, and makes more quality bikes than most others anywhere in the world. Nick Bloor himself launched this bike in India alongside Rajiv Bajaj.
Not at all. There's just not too much to say other than it's made by Bajaj!
Those tank graphics really spoil a nice looking bike. Shame.
Yes, why do manufacturers keep doing it? Royal Enfields, Harleys, Triumps etc keep ruining bike looks with silly and unnecessary tank graphics.
In my humble opinion, those tank graphics are beautiful ! 👍👍👍
Exactly @@alangee2200
I agree. I wish there was more variation in tank styling, too. Options like the retro badge or even de-bagded single colours. Bright yellow, or neon green. I'd love to have the green tank from the Twin Speed 900 Stealth Edition on my Speed 400.
@@alangee2200 Are you Nigel Farage?
The tank graphics I hate.same as on other triumph with the union jack design. Please Triumph give us some decent tank design. Drop the fake patriotism.
its a boring motorcycle i rode for 16miles and i was not impressed.
I don't think 16 mile is long enough to get a good impression of a normal road bike.
600-650 is the bare minimum for a motorcycle
Tell me you know nothing about motorcycles without telling you know nothing about motorcycles
This isn't a sport bike with 4 cylinders. It's a single cylinder town bike.
Don't tell the millions of motorcyclists that ride much smaller bikes. They'll have to quit! 😂
A 600 would be nice do they still make them ?
You say that but over the years I've owned bikes ranging from my humble CG125 right up to my old Honda Super Blackbird...and other than my Triumph 600's...the best bike and most fun out of all of the bikes i've owned, was my little Honda CB400 Super Four, and it was a very capable machine, more to a bike than just the engine size remember, riding a motorcycle is also about how it makes you feel when riding it too, the experience so to speak.
"super popular" "super uncomfortable" phrases never used before 2020
Everything is super these days. Super happy. Super important. Wtf?
Are 'very' and 'really' banned?
Thanks for watching.
Super are banned!
MUST you blaspheme??
All part of our normal language here in the UK.
60 mpg is awful.