Shimano ZEE and SAINT. Gravity Groupset Review.
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Good to see the gravity components on here
I'm using the Zee brakes and they are absolutely amazing. I am a big guy who just got back into riding and the mechanical disc that came on my bike we're not stopping me fast enough. I did my research and found Zee to be the best upgrade. Saint was just too expensive for the very minimal increase in extras be hi
Another awesome product review. wanted to let you know that Marck From Colombia reminded me that I too considered your research when buying my groupset.
I really love these videos
I race downhill for 3-4 years and I use the Shimano xtr 10 speeds cassette 11-36t very strong. Never had problem with that so I recomand: xtr 10 speeds cassette, zee dh rear derailleur, saint shifter, saint brakes and zee crankset.
thanks for make this video
ZEE DH and FR derailleurs have exactly the same cage. The difference is mounting part, where derailleur mounts to hanger.
On some of my bike i have zee brakes but with xt levers. they are amazing
good groupset
amacing brakes bouth
Some professional do prefer to use road 10 speed cassette. (11-28t)
With Zee just buy the rear derailleur and shifter, you can get better cranks and brakes, tough I'm using the FR.
I am looking for a new shifter and rear mech i have just bought a shimano saint m825 cranks and i want to keep with zee or saint and i have a 11-34 cassette and im using 1 ring... any help will be appreciated
Which 4 Pistonbrakes have the best performence, Magura MT5 or Shimano M8025 or Zee?
Can you make a Brake compare video pls?
On my Zee AM Shiftset I use a SLX casette 11 speed
could you use the zee caliber and not use and icetech rotor
Difference between DH and FR derailleurs are that the FR will have a spacer in b-nuckle to add more b-tension.
The "spacer" isn't to set tension neither is the associated B-Screw that people think that what it's for. The spacer and B-Screw are to adjust the top pulley gap to the largest cog on the cassette to allow different cassette sizes to be used. i.e 23, 25, 28T.
zee and Saint are actually slx and xt slightly modified, just the brakes are unique for these groupsets.
not exactly.
Shifters: When the current Saint groupset for MY 2012/13, the current shifters were M780 for XT and M980 for XTR.
The Saint M820 shifters were actually based off the XTR M980 shifters, including features such as dimpled levers and 4-bearing construction (the XT level has only 2-bearings). However they are a little heavier because no carbon fibre.
So for 10-speed shifters, Saint & XTR are the best on the market, and better for sure than XT (they are also longer levers so more leverage).
The Zee meanwhile is the same as the Deore & SLX 10-speed shifters. There's no difference between the three of them, it's just that Zee lacks the optical display.
RD: The Saint RD is based off the refreshed XT M786 R/D, it's just that this is the short cage version (XT is only available in medium/long-cage).
The Zee RD is a short cage version of the SLX M785 R/D but it uses some more aluminium and less steel, so it's a bit upgraded.
Brakes:
The callipers are identical between Saint, Zee, and XT M8020 (NOT the standard M8000)
Brake levers
The Zee levers are Deore level, the Saint levers are XT level.
Cranks:
these are single-ring and heavier and different between the Zee/Saint & normal MTB groups.
I have zee brakes on my enduro bike and slx brakes on my hardtail. The slx brakes feel really weak after switching bikes because the zee's allow me to stop so much faster. I have never felt the brakes fade like my old deores or guides, even when doing long downhill runs on hot 90°F days. Solid stuff!
EatSleepMoguls Lower groupset = weaker components. Simple.
This is more of a overview( a general review or summary of a subject.) than a review.( a formal assessment or examination of something with the possibility or intention of instituting change if necessary.)
1:50 I prefer Absolute black Oval bashguide
one thing to notice is that the new xt m9000 four piston brake basically replaces the Saint brakes, as do the new XTR.
Isn't that cassette same like the Tourney? 😆
Does the Zee Chainring feature Narrow Wide Teeth, or are they all the same width?
Btw Nice Video! 👍
Janosch K it is not narrow wide. A chain guide is needed
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Since I'm quite new to the component thing, could someone answer me if the Zee shifter works with a deore dereillieur? Reason for asking is that I plan on building myself a 26" hardtail with a 1x10 drivetrain and the Zee shifter is far cheaper than a deore or xt shifter where I am from and the reason for the deore dereillieur is that I plan on using a 11-42T casette. Thanks in advance.
yeah. it works. I dislike the deore shifter anyways
Does Shimano make 7 Speed DH groupset?
no, only sram
Most downhillers use road cassettes with shimano derraileurs, I’ve never even heard of this Saint cassette
CAMPER Honsa Also this 7 Speed Cassette here is 100 with 200 grams heavier than a Dura-Ace 7900 10 Speed Cassette.
What is the best choice for crank arm 175mm or 170mm?
Rodzee Mateo Dependse on your inseam lenght and your bike.
I hardtail is good for longer cranks a full sus. Not so because the BB drops more when u get on the bike.
And also depends where and what you ride: For tech stuff( up and down) smaller cranks... More XC oriented longer cranks
Music at 3:30? Thanks for the answer... :)
Isnt the saint hydraulic brakes discontinued?
Why you think so, there is no new saint groupset yet
What i heard is that there is a manufacturing defect on saint brakes hence they stop producing anymore.
Tech Ignorance idk but new xt 4 piston brakes looks like saint witchout gold details so maby they discontinued saint because these brakes are now xt branded
I have free stroke on my Zee levers
how?
@@LucasGoncalves-sp5nh Replaces the screw with 2 small holes where free stroke adjustment usually sits. Replace it with a M3x11cm screw.
Sorry 11mm
@@henriksaxin685 nice!
Don't believe the 11-32 for the FR, it will go a lot higher.
Hi sir, i just bought the FR, so it can easily handle 11-42 even without goat link/rd extension? Thanks in advance.
Shimano brake housing is too fragile in my opinion, ok for moat of us, but for those hard riding people who crash a lot they might ruin brake houses fast. they scratch very easily, I can see marks after just few rides, so too many hits from rocks and they might be ruined.
@2:56 don't blow off reeride like that. Freeride is freeride. Zee and saint are not for enduro. An enduro groupset is XT or SLX, not even XTR. From what i've seen XTR is typically seen on trail or xc bikes. Zee and Saint are for dh or freeride. nothing else
Brandon Lee people ride saint on enduro bikes all the time my guy I’ve got saints in my reign