Can You Beat Paper Mario Without Using Money?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 มี.ค. 2022
- Like most turn-based RPGs, Paper Mario has you earn money throughout your adventure, which you use to buy items, badges, and other things. But can you beat the game without using that money at all? In this challenge video, I attempt to beat Paper Mario without using money!
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"for some reason even tho the star buff wasnt active, my power bounce hardly did any damage"
You know that star rod bowser uses to attack you and your partner? Well it also has a secondary effect to remove any buffs your character currently has on you. essentially being a counter to the overpowered charge boots strat.
Oh, that would explain it! Thanks for the tip!
That didn't work with my +6 charge Goombario for some reason
@@AzumarillConGafasBv yeah
@@AzumarillConGafasBv I doesn’t work on partners
I noticed that as well. The only true solution is either bow or lakilester
Those fast chapter transitions had me cracking up
Cutting off the chapter intros is peak comedy and that's the hill I will die on
Thanks for filling the paper mario content-shaped hole in my heart.
No problem! Thank _you_ for watching!
Is it paper mario or a paper mario thumbnail shaped hole
That's what happens when you run with scissors.
If you haven’t, you should try bug fables. It has similar fight mechanics to Paper Mario and it has a similar feel, in my opinion at least
Stryder7x, huh? Same. He was a legend, but he's just... left.
For some reason, i find the small snippets of chapter intros hilarious.
That's the hope! :)
I like how the last chapter transition doesn't even have sound anymore lol
Fun Fact: In Pokemon Yellow its actually possible to enter the Safari Zone for free. You'll only have 1 Safari Ball, but if you just keep trying over and over, eventually the guard will let you in. It was implemented in the game to prevent softlocking since it was possible to run out of money sources throughout the plot.
Yeah, I actually knew about that! I used the Safari Zone as an example because Pokémon is popular, but since it wasn't a Pokémon-focused video, I didn't want to expand on the example too much to confuse things. It's a cool obscure fact for sure though! Thanks for the comment!
why am I only now just learning about this? for YEARS I kept hearing about how this can be a softlock to a game if your out of money, and now you can enter with just 1 safari ball? neat.
@@MrMariosonicmanit is a true Softlock in Red and Blue versions. The failsafe was added IN Yellow, but the versions prior to it don’t have it, meaning you could be permanently stuck in them.
So from my perspective I think no heart blocks is fine but no bed is a little silly. Because let's be honest, the different between using a bed and spamming focus/refresh on a no risk fight is time. Wasting time isn't really proving anything. Do enjoy this series you got going though!
In that og paper mario ia cost nothing for the heal block and bed not like in TTYD
In final bowser, his attack where he uses the star rod to shoot out an expanding ring of light that hits you and your partner will actually negate and reset all of your charges, regardless of whether or not you block it. It’s annoying to me too since that’s my main strategy against bosses in this game, but it might be why the charge method didn’t work against final bowser for you
Yeah, I got some comments that told me it worked like that - I guess I never realized!
The challenge is fun but what convinced me to subscribe was the "chapter transition is faster each time" gag. I love those getting cut off jokes and it made me believe you're worth keeping an eye on
Thank you! I hope you enjoy future jokes as well. :)
Watt can do 5 damage to Bowser easier than Bombette AND for no FP.
for the bowser fight, instead of picking bombette with her bomb, use watt so you don't waste any FP since watt does a consistent 5 damage even with bowser's damage resistance
I had a few people suggest this to me - I definitely didn't have the best strategy against Bowser. Thanks!
Loved this and your thousand year door run! I especially liked the way you cut off the chapter jingle a little faster each time - it was such a small detail but always made me giggle. I feel like it would be really interesting to see this challenge in a game like sticker star or color splash, where a lot of your combat options are entirely based on buying attacks from the shop - not sure if it would even be possible, though. Thanks for the video!
Thanks for watching! I'm glad people seem to enjoy that chapter intro gag so much!
And thanks for your suggestion! I don't have plans at the moment to do videos on the Paper Mario games beyond TTYD, but my plan for the channel is to make challenge videos for games from various series, so if you enjoyed the humor and overall style of these ones, then you can look forward to more like them. That idea does sound interesting though!
Power Rush and Mega Rush only stack in TTYD, so you wasted 1 BP there.
It’s not a waste since you still get the extra attack power when at 2-5 HP, it’s just not as big of a boost when you get down to 1 HP.
It just depends on context.
Will you die in one hit at 2-5 HP?
Would it be better to just get to 1 HP straight away and get the bigger attack boost, and save that 1 BP for something else?
15:20 The light source shining on the right side of Peach (the left side of her face) looks so good. Nice polish on this game.
As a fresh Paper Mario fan, good challenge run content like this is rare! Makes me wish I documented more of my 10 HP run, good video.
Thanks very much! If you haven't seen it, I did this challenge in The Thousand-Year Door as well: th-cam.com/video/wpHRIHJkkCU/w-d-xo.html
2 things
1) Power rush and Mega rush don't stack so thats a waste of BP
2) On Kent C Koopa if you jump on his tail he has no defence which makes it way easier
Other than that good video, seems like an interesting challenge
1: Yeah, some other comments pointed out that the Rush badges don't stack - I never noticed!
2: I forgot about Kent C. Koopa's tail, but I think the Lullaby strategy is still easier.
Thanks for watching!
@@MandatoryPixel yeah you can use lullaby and his tail. You knock him over, send him to sleep and then attack his tail for an easy kill
Oh, I didn't realize that! Thanks!
I love this and the last video’s explanation of mandatory story uses of the thing you’re not using and honestly more TH-camrs should use it, like you said the point of the video is to see how the challenge makes it more difficult and if it’s possible to do without using it that’s a fun bonus
You deserve way more attention than what you have. The amount of effort and planning that goes into a video like this is just incredible. Can’t wait to see more content from you in the future!
Thank you so much! I really appreciate comments like this. More videos on the way!
...so interesting fact about the toy box.
So long as you grab the items off the shy guys but not kill them, you can infinitely scum them for items, and in turn make easy ingredients for taste T
Paper Mario but Mario doesn’t have pockets:
-No Items
-No Money
-No Badges (Except required/important ones.)
-Key Items are allowed.
These challenge runs are awesome! I am subscribing and I totally want to see more!
Thanks very much! I'm glad you enjoyed them!
From the very first seconds, the humor for this is on-point! I may have come for the challenge run, but I always stay for the writing!
Thank you very much! Glad to hear it!
If you didn't use Power Bounce, a strategy I use to make the Master pitifully easy is get Zap Tap. It blocks him from doing his crazy combo.
Alternative title:Paper Mario 64 But mario Forgot what is Coins
Here is my take on why peach doesn't get in the magical chest. She has no clue how long it will take for mario to discover her, and she'd be dealing with a limited oxygen supply after closing the lid, so if she got in, she'd probably be dead by the time mario got her out
Really fun video, I would love to see this type of challenges on other Mario Rpg games
Thanks for watching! Stay tuned!
Loved the video! Really like how your humor is mostly done through visual gags that don't stop the flow of the video, the chapters introduction gag was so good LMAO But if I had to give you a suggestion, I'd say to show all the moments where you got items that would be useful in the run, like the specific location where you got each of them. Also, I'm surprised you didn't bring up the Repel Gel at all, could swear it would've been useful during the final battle!
Love the video and jokes. Although I think there might be some glitches you can do to skip chapter 2, making this truly countless, though fighting the enemies without save blocks would be really tricky. Anyways, I'm definetly subbing for more!!
You're right, you can skip most of chapter 2 using glitches! But one of my rules was that I couldn't use glitches to skip things, so that wasn't an option for this playthrough. Thanks for watching, and thanks for subscribing!
Wow. I almost always end up using money in Paper Mario. Had little to no idea that money was mostly optional. I mean...This is one incredible game for its time.
They definitely expect you to use money, which is what makes a challenge like this fun. :)
In Ch 2, would farming lemons and limes be disallowed?
"Why Bow specifically? I'm just a fan of her abilities." lol good one
Lemons and limes weren't disallowed, no! I just didn't end up going for them.
I played the game with no items and it's still quite easy thanks to star powers. Refresh, happy heart, and happy flower are more than enough if you're able to guard most attacks. Though in this case you can't buy some good badges from the badge shop, but with 30 bp there's more than enough good badges you can just find or buy with star pieces.
Thank you for the og Paper Mario challenge video, been missing people making these lol
No problem! Thanks for watching!
It’s kinda funny how the chapter screens are only on for less than a second 😂
Piranha Plants are weak to Sleep, so Lullaby would have bought you more time to focus and refresh.
Interesting! Thanks!
Star Beam removes all buffs from all enemies. It's really useful for wasting an enemy's turns.
You know i never did think about why peach wouldn't try getting in the magic box herself lol
Great video man :) I'd love to see you attempt this challenge in SMRPG next! I've got an extra caveat for you though: Don't spend ANY currency - this would include Frog Coins!
Thanks! I thought about doing it in SMRPG, but that's already been done by SwankyBox: th-cam.com/video/FiF8KjQdizw/w-d-xo.html
I try to stick to challenges that haven't been done by other channels before, so I probably won't do that specific challenge in SMRPG, but I might do some other kind of video on it some time!
I like your style! These 2 challenges have been a blast to watch. And I have a recommendation for a future challenge; bug fables but you only level one of the stats (HP, TP or BP). As far as I know there is no cap for the BP. And of course you could also try beating bug fables without using any berries! Just a suggestion, keep doing what you like!
Thanks for watching! I'll keep your suggestion in mind. I'm planning to do challenges for several games, not just Paper Mario games, so if you like the overall style of the video, you can look forward to more!
Lovely video! Challenge videos are usually interesting, and I fricking love the Mario RPGs (Sticker Star excluded,) so I'd love to see this challenge in the Mario and Luigi games, since they also use standard RPG money and EXP. Also, you're a true hero for Whacka fans.
I'm glad you enjoyed it! I love the Mario RPGs too, so there's a good chance I'll do videos on Mario and Luigi at some point! As a heads up, I'm planning to make challenge videos for many different series, not just Mario, so the next video won't be a Mario game, but if you liked the overall style of this video then you can look forward to more. :) The next Mario RPG I do will probably be Super Mario RPG!
Whacka fans stand strong! Also, Arle in shades is a solid profile picture choice!
@@MandatoryPixel Thanks, and glad to see someone of culture. Excited to see more of your contebt!
Video idea: The opposite of this challenge where you can only use things that cost money. No using anything you didn't buy from a store.
Whacka's bump ain't gonna help us anymore ;(
7:52 if you spin jump thrice in the spinny roof hut in toad town you get quick change which allows you to switch partners without using a turn
I love these challenge runs. You should do one of Mario rpg remake when it comes out.
This was a great video man. I was wondering if its possible if you can do a "coinless" run with Bug Fables, since its practically the Paper Mario 3 people have wanted.
17:35 Mario party 4 "Here's the star" music!
Impressive stuff! Loving the Paper Mario content :) Def subbed
Thanks very much! Just so you know, my plan for the channel is to make challenge videos for various games, not just Paper Mario. But if you liked the overall style of these videos, there's more on the way!
Great video. Love anything paper mario 1 related honestly haha. Very nostalgic.
Thanks for watching!
These videos deserve more views. You’ve earned my subscription!
Thanks very much!
I usually do the Amazy Dayzee grind with Dizzy Attack Badge, It guarantees a stun on the Amazy Dayzee giving an easy reliable 2 turn kill.
Walking in the thorns 49 times to drop from 50 to 1 hp each lvl up sounds like hell, lol.
In the first 5 seconds you absolutely killed me
You can find a dried shroom in a bush in Koopa Village, so the only thing you'd have to spend money on is the Dusty Hammer. If you remember to save the dried shroom for ch.2, then the least amount of money you'd have to spend would be 2 coins.
Aside from that, this is a nice challenge! The chapter intro cuts are funny af.
Does that work? You're told to buy a Dried Shroom and a Dusty Hammer in that order in the shop as a code.
And thanks, I'm glad you liked it!
@@MandatoryPixel oh riiight. I forgot about that. Sorry you're right, its been years since I played this.
@@KiKiD484 No problem! It's the thought that counts!
500th sub! i really like your content and i'm excited to see you make more ❤
Thanks very much! Stay tuned!
"Story moments are excluded as this is more of a self-imposed challenge" I swear it's a 50/50 whether "can you beat" challenges are "is it possible to do this" or "can I, the youtuber, beat this challenge"
i wanna see a video where a guy discusses glitches to skip the story parts that mandate spending coins
I like the glitchless challenges more because they provide gameplay challenges which force you to play the game in different and creative ways. But some glitches are very tricky to pull off and also fun to watch! Just feels like cheating in these kinds of challenges
In the first Paper Mario game, you can use glitches to skip to chapter 5, so a glitched playthrough could do it with zero coins!
@@MandatoryPixel Thank you.
@@JacredHart No problem! Here's a link that explains the glitch I'm thinking of: papermariorta.fandom.com/wiki/Blue_House_Skip I don't speedrun the game so I could be wrong, but that should let you skip the coins in chapter 2 if I understand it correctly!
@@MandatoryPixel Again, thank you for informing me.
This challenge could be pretty interesting in a hard mode mod like Pro Mode, just for a bit harder version and balancing.
However, a really interesting one would be Dark Star Edition. A lot of late game items are insanely good due to cooking, however, in this challenge those would be almost completely locked out to you, forcing you to use the many new badges it has.
Seeing as how it’s not pay to win…yes!
(For anyone who says “that’s not what it meant”…good job, take this award with the word dummy written on it!)
Counterpoint: you have to buy the game to play it. ;)
Everyone ignored his respect and mercy towards Whacka. I can instantly respect those who respect Whacka and his head.
Loved both this and the TTYD challenges! Also, just wanted to mention that it is possible to get the Ultra Boots before fighting Huff 'n' Puff, which could do a little more damage or save some FP depending on strategy. Apologies if this was already mentioned and I missed it, just something I thought was worth noting though.
Thanks for watching! I definitely didn't think to go grab them in the moment, but that would've been a good idea!
@@MandatoryPixel You're welcome, and not to worry.
Very solid video, will you be doing more Paper Mario series challenges like this in the future?
Thanks for watching, I'm glad you enjoyed it! My plan for the channel is to do challenge videos for many different games, so there won't be consistent Paper Mario videos, but it's always possible that I return to the series in the future. I'm planning a video on Super Mario RPG, though, which is in a similar vein!
If you haven't watched it yet, I've already done a video on The Thousand-Year Door, though! Available here: th-cam.com/video/wpHRIHJkkCU/w-d-xo.html
Wow you only have 140 subs???? I thought you had a ton more! This is quality content. I watched both paper Mario vids so far (I was the 140th lmao)
Thanks very much! More videos on the way!
I love how the introductory chapter jingles get shorter each time. It's a subtle but hilarious gag.
Glad to hear it! I thought it was funny.
not even 5 seconds into the video and we're ragging on Sticker Star. This is gonna be a good video
I don’t know why I laughed so hard at the chapter transitions
I love the first two paper mario games! It's fun watching these challenges. Going to go watch the thousand year door one now, that is my favorite mario game!
I hope you enjoyed the TTYD one as well! Thanks for watching!
Fun watch and a good run. But I feel compelled to mention that healing items are actually pretty plentiful, thanks to the...regional?...Items found throughout the world. Stuff like Goomnuts, Koopa Leaves, Eggs and plenty more are found in Infinite supply all over. And since cooking isn't "gated" behind a coin use, it's 100% fair game here, which let's these scavenged items shine even more.
So really, you accomplished both a no-spending AND no cooking run.
Finally a nice bit of paper Mario content. Great video! Although, would it be alright if I could use the idea except for colour splash?
Yeah, go ahead! I don't own the idea or anything. Let me know when the video is done!
@@MandatoryPixel oh that's great! Thanks for that. Time to remind people colour splash isn't that bad with a challenge for no reason!
@@professortoad1378 hell yea I love Colour splash
2:41 It is always weird to me to hear somebody talk about Superguards.
My mind tells me they should be called "Counters" as they are referred to as "Konter" in my localization and if I retranslate that in my mind...
15:29 I never understood this part either. This question could've been easily avoided by making the chest too small for Peach to possibly fit into it. Or at least let her have the idea but let Twink stop her for some arbitrary reason like: "It doesn't work with living beings."
18:52 "I gave it a try and lost and decided it wasn't worth the effort." That made me smile way broader than it should've.
26:56 Sounds like something that would actually happen whenever Bowser is about to defeat Mario for once. Of course he would do something stupid and waste his chance.
This video was more interesting than the TTYD Version. But that's probably because I haven't played the N64 PM nearly as much. (I've only beaten it once.)
I'm glad you enjoyed it! Regarding Superguards, different localizations used different names for it - the Japanese and English versions call it Superguard, the French and German versions call it Counter, and the Spanish and Italian versions call it Super Defense.
I love how each chapter title card kept getting shorter and shorter as the video went on, basically disappearing in the end.
Kent C. Koopa is extremely weak to sleep
Edit: I also want to add that I believe Huff N. Puff also uses the same moves in the same order
pro tip for the final bowser watt's basic attack does the same damage as bombette and doesn't cost FP
Paper Mario was so amazing. I just finished it I love it.
What's interesting is, with the amount of glitches in that game, you probably could've just skipped the section where you were required to buy things.
He said he wanted to do it glitchless. That's why he didn't clip his way past Zess T and into Don Pianta's office in TTYD.
If I understand the glitch properly, I think you could do the Blue House Skip to skip past the mandatory coins in chapter 2, yeah!
9/10 would have been 10/10 If you said a friendly hello to wakka more
I'm surprised you didn't use the desert limes to recover.
This and the TTYD video were both really interesting to watch! Do you have plans to take on the unconventional games like Super Paper Mario?
Thanks very much! I don't have any immediate plans to do the later Paper Mario games, unfortunately. I don't have as much experience with them as I do with the first two games, and my plan for the channel is to do challenges for many different games, not just Paper Mario games. So not in the immediate future, but maybe sometime!
I think you're my new favorite challenge runner? Dig the laid-back presentation and general low-key gestalt. Same thing I like from Gamechamp3k or The Backlogs - it's a good style and you pull it off well ÷]
Wow, thanks very much! That's very nice to hear. :) Next video should be out pretty soon!
@MandatoryPixel Ill be looking forward to it greatly!!
This is a very interesting video/challenge, I'll have to try this
Thanks for watching!
1:35 I was really glad to hear you disallowed Inns & Heart Blocks. Part of the thrill is the challenge.
Any plans to do this for Super Paper Mario, despite it largely being a platformer?
2:12 If you didn't heal, dare I ask, how is your HP at 8?
4:13 Yay!
5:00 Nice!
18:15 Is Dizzy Spin an option in this Challenge? With Dizzy Spin, the Amayzee Dayzee doesn't get a first turn, so Ultra Hammer + Ultra Rank Watt Electro Dash is a guaranteed 2-turn KO as long as you don't mess up on the Action Commands. (Not that I expect you to mess up. No offense meant.)
20:48 If you wanna save time short term at the cost of HP -Or just have a laugh- Duplighosts that turn into Bombette can be OHKO'd by Electro Dash.
21:51 Fun fact: When he's flipped, you can use Spin Smash on him to make him spin around & drop coins!
27:45 Couldn't you just do a regular hammer for similar results?
Anyway, nice & analysis run video! Thanks for uploading!
1:35 - Might do Super Paper Mario at some point! Not in the immediate future though.
2:12 - I couldn't heal using Heart Blocks, but as I mentioned, there were plenty of items to pick up that I could heal with.
18:15 - Yeah, I could've done that! I forgot it was an option when I was playing.
20:48 - Nice!
21:51 - Neat! That badge is only available at the badge shop, so I couldn't do that in this particular run, but that's cool to know!
27:45 - Yeah, maybe! Power Bounce always _feels_ powerful though.
Thanks for watching!
Really hope this channel grows, some awesome content man!
Thanks very much! It's been getting a lot of attention lately, so hopefully that continues!
One badge you didn’t mention that you should have is HP drain, unlike in TTYD each time you contact an enemy with it equipped you get 1hp back, so if you power bounce you can get like 5hp back a turn, makes topping your HP up stupidly easy
Oh, that would've been a good strategy!
Morality!? HELL NAH! I would have bonked that boy as I SAW IT.
This was how i beat Huff N Puff and Crystal King originally, except with Goombario
I have a challenge I'd like to see you attempt. How confident do you feel about beating Paper Mario 64 without ever healing? Basically, you can only restore HP or FP with level ups, ends of chapters, and forced heals like in the final boss. I'm trying this in TTYD and I'm up to just after Chapter 2. Would be fun to see another perspective on a different game.
Also, Power Rush and Mega Rush can't both be active at the same time. Interesting tactic though to deal with Amazy Dayzees.
Thanks for the suggestion! That does sound pretty interesting. I'm trying to make videos about different games, so since I just did a PM64 video recently I probably won't do it there, but maybe I'll eventually try it in the original Super Mario RPG or something. It definitely sounds fun!
This is just how any casual beats the game since most people hoard money and items in rpgs
Great video! I'm a challenge runner for this game and it's always really cool to see new people trying out challenges (For both this game and TTYD, as I just finished watching that video and that's how I came here), if you ever get interested in more different challenges please let me know because I can give you a link to the Discord server of the challenge running community :>
Interesting, thanks for watching! Are you talking about the Glitz Pit Discord? I saw it linked on this wiki: pm-challenge.fandom.com/wiki/Paper_Mario_Challenge_Run_Wiki
@@MandatoryPixel Yep, that one exactly, the wiki is a little out of date, but we got a challenge master list in the server that I made
the chapter intros getting shorter and shorter is so oddly funny to me
"Paper Mario series of puzzle games"
Hey, great video! I'm glad that there's another Paper Mario TH-camr I can watch in this world.
...I miss Stryder7x...
Thanks! Just a heads up, though, this isn't going to be a Paper Mario-focused channel - I'm planning to do challenges for various games, not just Paper Mario ones.
If you want someone more Paper Mario focused, check out fatguy703.
idea: *ignore all coin usages where you dont get anything from it*
you can in this game, but you can't in TTYD because you need to buy the contact lens to access the east side.
Since you didn't have to pay for contact lens in this game, I feel like cooking should've been back on the table 🤭
Yeah, I actually didn't ban it for this one! I just never ended up needing to use it.
Looks like I found my favorite paper Mariotuber
this was so good
Thank you!
What was going on with the jump charges against final Bowser is that his star rod shockwave attack undoes any charges you have. At least, that’s what I remember.
I got another comment that explained this to me - I guess I never realized it worked like that! Thank you!
Hammer upgrades increase damage by 2!
this video is just like the thousand-year door one
Im still waiting to see coinless paper Mario to happen from any channel
Paper Mario is just too easy for this sort of challenge. As you pointed out, any time you have access to an enemy that can't damage you, you essentially have infinite healing either through Refresh or just picking up dropped hearts and flowers after battle. And even if you decided to ban both the use of Star Power and after battle pickups, for a mere 8 star pieces you can buy Happy Heart which provides an endless, albeit slow, regeneration ability.
It actually seems pretty difficult to construct a challenge for this game that is both difficult to cheese and still possible to complete. You'd have to get into really esoteric stuff like only allowing each badge to be used for one battle while also banning non-item healing and shops. Or only allowing Mario to use Star Power and having to rely on partners for damage or something.
You're not wrong, it's definitely not an insanely difficult challenge! I find that this ruleset doesn't make the game too difficult, but the way it changes the gameplay makes it a lot of fun to play through and adds enough challenge to make it feel unique.
I love goombario! He is the best partner in paper Mario and you know it.
You had full star power going in to the final fight, should have used some so the amount you passively generate wasn't wasted
17:44 Do Amazy Dayzees actually have a possibility to respawn if you just go one screen to the right and back after defeating one or how does it work exactly?
Great video btw, really enjoyed both this one and the video about TTYD :)
When you enter the area, there are two enemies there - if neither one is an Amazy Dayzee, you can just go one screen away and come back, and there's a chance one of them will be an Amazy Dayzee. Once one apppears and you defeat it, if I remember correctly, you have to go two screens away, and then re-enter the room and now there will be two enemies again, so you can continue the process.
Thanks for watching! I'm glad you enjoyed them!