Ford Raptor vs Ram TRX: Here's What It's Like To Live With Both & How Reliable They've Been
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In this video Andre & Nathan compare the Ram 1500 TRX and the Ford F-150 Raptor and discuss the pros and cons of each and which is the better buy!
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#Raptor #TRX
Come on guys, it’s not right to use the 2021 raptor in the thumbnail if that’s not what your actually comparing
Dudes, STOP THE INSANITY!
If you want a tow vehicle go buy one, a Raptor is NOT a tow vehicle and I personally don’t want Ford to compromise the off road ability which would happen if it was made to tow more!
All trucks and cars having towing ability. It's about how much. You can say this is built for off road but your a manufacture and your customer has $80,000 plus dollars to spend and they want to to with the manufactures are going to accommodate it's only a matter weight limitations.
@@scottivlow9962 but that has nothing to do with wanting to convert an off road vehicle to a towing vehicle, my bicycle can tow too, but that doesn’t mean you should! Round hole, round peg works best! lol 🐴🐴🥌
Why is there a Gen 3 F-150 Raptor in the thumbnail, when you only have a long term review for the gen 1 and gen 2 ?
I cant wait for you guys to compare the Raptor R with the TRX next year !
I looked at both and genuinely favored the Ram. But a best case scenario (realistically for my driving) of 9 mpg….. at $3.20 a gallon of premium that’s over $100 every 300 miles. Just can’t stomach that. I do love both but am going with Raptor this time
So you dock points off the Raptor for
A) The buying experience at your local dealer
B) Payload. Despite the fact it tows EXACTLY as advertised.
😐
Julian budget of 60k, get a 13-16 f350 or 450 with 100k miles, probably close to 45-50k and you have the rest of your budget for trailer and equipment
Exactly what I was thinking
Lol starting at $77,000 for a TRX is a bargain! Compared to the 110 thousand for a new raptor R built by Fraud ! I hope people understand now dodge style Antis builds the best bargain vehicle‘s and most reliable on the market!
I haven't owned a raptor but I have owned lots of ecoboost vehicles and 87 is just fine unless the car/manual says otherwise. The sensors can account for and know the difference and will dial back the timing if necessary as well as cam timing and many other aspects, but it's mainly ignition timing that octane affects and you actually will see a difference, small though it may be in higher or lower octane. Octane isn't magic octane is literally resistance to detonation and running a higher octane in a car that isn't meant for it or can't account for it can actually make less power. Lower octane is easier to ignite and higher is harder so if it doesn't have the requisite compression ratio and ignition timing it can hurt performance, but most cars now use their knock sensors and others to find the max ignition of what gas is in the car to run the best. I won't go into it much here the info is everywhere but just check your manual or often just the gas cap and it will tell you but with the powerful computers and variable timing and massive array of sensors you can run whatever octane in most cars now a days just check first.
What a deceptive thumbnail. What happen to the integrity aspect of the channel.
You guys have like 12 TH-cam channels to guys got to be earrings a shit load of money
An interesting video would be how much does it cost for both truck payment month to month and insurance and maintenance like oil, gas price etc etc ..
Financing and insurance are not comparable beyond the individual.
Routine maintenance is in the manual, and mpg is on the sticker
Really shocked you guys thought the Gen 2 Raptor has a stiff ride. I've owned 4 other F-150s, 2 of which had the FX4 package and in my experience, my 19' Raptor is the nicest riding/smoothest riding truck I've ever driven. I was actually expecting a harsher ride initially, but now I couldn't imagine going back to a standard F-150.
That's cause of what you were use to. The new Rams are more comfortable then 99% of cars I have had and driven or rode in . Just wait till you ride in a Ram or the new TRX or Raptor with rear coil suspension. It's not even comparable to a truck with leaf springs
@@HeMi-LuST1012 thats correct! New rams, trx and gen3 rap feel much better and the gen3 and trx feel like cadillacs....drove both and went 22 raptor. Gen 2 raptor is stiff in comparison, but most noticeably, the rear end is unruly on road bumps
I would like to say that I hate how you graded that... you bought it knowing it would have a payload of 1000 lbs... you should be grading the truck off of what the truck is said to be... unless your comparing this truck to a different truck then yes sure compare the two and take away points from the one with less payload.... but your just talking about one truck, I don’t see why you would take away points/grading for something that you already knew, it’s not like it held that payload badly you just don’t like it.
As a one time car salesman, dealers are some of the biggest crooks around, you guys are complaining about $100,000 trucks, well we here in Canada the average full load 1500 is $90,000 the Raptors and TRX's are upwards of a $150,000 so don't complain too much
Canadian to USD conversion needed
@@sothickitssickk the reason we pay so much here from what I understand is taxes, my government likes our money, but $100,000 to me is still a $100,000
TRX at my local dealer for $160,000 Canadian, say $130,000 USD
So FORD Maverick have a better payload than the FORD Raptor!!!
Yeah
We USE all trucks at work and Ford is very good for towing
Is ford the only reliable towing truck?
@@alexbradley5835 no but very very good
What an unrealistic comments from these two fellows in this video, who buy these trucks for HAUL?? Is like buying a lambo and complaining about its MPG. Who cares, ppl don't buy this trucks for haul, if you want to haul, get a DIESEL my man
I know you guys like the RAM TRX but wait until the Raptor R comes then we'll see what you guys think about your Ram TRX and just remember the TRX copied the Raptor in the first place
Lol these guys think everyones an idiot. I can tell yiu i beat the ever living shit out of my bronco raptor,much more than a pre runner
Good luck truing to buy an hd for 60 k right now. They are getting above sticker prove right now. Hold off for a lil while, my ram dealer offered 58k forvmyb Chevy hd duramax 2500 with itz with 34k on it. I paid 62k for it back in 2018 new. Prices are insane , only small deals rebates on lil half tons at this current time.
Andrea stop crying about the TRX your a brand lover. That’s Ford and your finding all kind of things to cry about, cry me a River.
Sane people: Pre-Run the Dakar? Ahhh hell no.
Nathan: Hell YES. Sign me up!
I don’t think anyone in their right mind would Pre-Run the Dakar rally. Maybe use it as a support truck.
Cheers from Costa Rica 🇨🇷!!
I have a 2020 F450 for sell.
who cares
@@georgeionescu6425 the first question was someone wanting a Truck for Hotshot. I have one ready to go. With sleeper bed and extended tank. Plus it has a new transmission from Ford with a 3 year unlimited mile warranty.
I don't think you can compare these at all by price since you guys got the TRX from Dodge and not a dealership like you did with the Raptor. TRX is way more $$$ for obvious reasons
No, they've said many times across several videos that the purchase was organized through Johnson Auto Plaza. TFL needed delivery before year's end so the collection was arranged direct from the factory.
Ford F-350 and 250’s with the 10 speed transmissions have had quite a few problems when they get 40-50k miles on them. They are very powerful and tow great but the transmissions need some work.
Exactly you cannot trust these guys they have been stifled by Ford from saying what they really want to or they willingly Schills for Ford, which is it? Watch the glowing absolutely glowing reviews they’ll give it to the new raptor which only exists because of the TRX LOL they will never say one bad thing about it that’s why I’ve unsubscribed from TFL and why their viewership isn’t what it could be everyone knows there very stingy on praise of any dodge ram products unless it comes automatically with a “ butt” they never do that with Ford watch any videos and compare they are praiseworthy of everything Ford!!
I think its due to the companies tunes for their trans they are straight garbage hate FCA tune for their zf 8 spd have a couple of buddies with the 10 spd from Ford and GM and they were told to recalibrate the trans at 60,000km which is not much my zf 8spd I got 2 different software updates and noticed how an update screws the trans behaviour in a bad way but a reliable aftermarket tuner will fix these issues
@@AmericanSurvival001 Ford does have pull they did get Biden to advertise their Ford lightning 😂
Long term lariat tremor RANGER or 2022 RANGER RAPTOR
It takes 87 octane the Ford manual recommendeds, no point in using premium
ordered my 22 trx 5/15 21 cant wait.. trading in my 2020 rapid red 802a raptor
You will regret it.
@@marcharris4176 im sure i wont
@@Lumpycrown845 ehhhhh 😬. Have fun with it tho, congratulations 🎉
Stop talking about the raptor, they are done, the TRX took over.
Why offroad cars don’t offer lower sensors under the car
I think Discovery had a series on Hotshots. I liked watching it, it was interesting.
The movie is awesome
Nathan hit the nail on the head when he said, "these trucks don't make an any sense to a guy like me." Unless your driving on heavy big rocks deep desert sand out west he is absolutely right! These trucks only make sense for all of 2-3% of all pick up truck owners that drive heavily off road. For the 97% to 98% who mostly only drive trucks daily on city and highway roads it a stupid truck to own at over $70,000. Take all 67 Counties in Florida that like has only have like 3 off road trails and driving on beaches no one in this State needs a beefed, heavy reinforced frame to do any off-roading in this State and yet a used Ford Raptor can be found all over this State.
Nathan hit it again when he refered to these trucks as "toys". That's what these trucks on paved roads really are. That said I have a test drive with a Raptor on 9/12. I've got to experience the drive for myself and no video can duplicate the real world.
Nathan - Completely agree with about price gouging.
For example, I'm selling a boat right now and the market is insane in my area. I've got a sweet 25' Formula with a fresh fuel injected 502 Mag, that I'm selling. I've got a guy driving in from 3+ hrs out to look at it. Obviously he wants it bad. I've got another who wants it. Am I going to take advantage of this and let the highest bidder win? Heck no. Whoever is first, has the right of first refusal in my book - and for the price I listed.
I disagree on the Ford tuck as a hot shot, not because it’s a bad truck nor capable or comfort factor. Your highest cost is fuel in trucking, averages matter a V8 is not as efficient as an inline 6, especially under load, fractions of mpg lost calculated over distance and time cost you money, this in conjunction with maintenance is your costs trucking is about saving money to make money and trucking is a tough business.
RAM with a Cummins and aisin transmission, built by Toyota, is a much more durable and efficient combo, I’m speaking from experience. Also, believe it or not RAM has a better lasting front end. Again I say not because of brand loyalty or favorites, it’s efficiency.
I don’t care for Freighliner trucks, currently, in the old days it was efficiency and that’s what wins the day.
Driving a vehicle between dealers is standard as they won't charge you for that service. If they put it on a hotshot trailer, then YOU the customer will pay an additional transport fee. I bought a Platinum F150 that is about the same cost level as a Raptor. I live in New Mexico and the truck was at a dealer in Colorado. The selling dealer picked up the truck in Colorado and drove it back. When I got the vehicle it has nearly 700 miles on it but I wasn't charged an additional transport fee. You don't want the additional mileage, tell the dealer and pay an additional transport fee - that's the tradeoff.
Great pod cast god finally sum thing that really made sense. Nathan thank you for being the one voice of reason. For the fact u never jock strap sniff and give ur opinion down the middle. Except for the power wagon and dude I am a Ford guy but damn that power wagon was a blast in the sand and climbing sand hills. Just really appreciate
What happened to the Ford vs Chevy battle? Now its Ford vs RAM lol
Do you ever get the idea that Nathan will never be able to give an honest review of a Ford. He is to busy worshiping Ram….
More tech, more to break, more to pay for, more headaches down the road.
Amen
The future is here
Hey any idea on when the new Raptor will be available because you can't currently spec Raptors on Ford's website.
The turning radius has to do with the TRX being All Wheel drive. The only AWD cars that I’ve found with good turning radius are Subaru’s.
Porsches
I still don't know why is the augmented sound an issue for people, that is the future, the future is here. 3.5 ecoboost is way more powerful than a big block 7.5 460 from mid 90s
Don’t know why people are so against the eco boost
Y’all spent 75% of the show taking about the Damn Ford!! Why are y’all soo stuck on the Ford Train?
I don’t care for either trucks
why are you saying sorry for the united states?
when i got my 19 harley davidson f150, it only came with one key, the dealer told me it was supercharged and come to find out, it wasnt, around 11k miles, when i turn the car on and try to turn the wheel, it made alot of noise, then it stops( only did it during cold start), dont get me wrong, i love the leadfoot color on it but once the trx came out, i traded my harley for it and i love my trx....ever since i straight piped my trx, the fuel mileage is not bad like it was when i got it stock like when i got it and i turn the vehicle on and just let it warm up, the fuel level was goin down fast and when i straight piped it, the level of the fuel stay steady but dont waste fuel like that.....its the best decision i ever made and i love my trx
Roman must have shaved his head😁😁
Love this segment of pickup trucks! Wondering if Toyota had a board meeting about it!
Doubt it
The new Raptors have a “ jump” mode!
tfl going full lebron? lol
Never seen a regular cab hot shot!
So let me get this straight the raptor is delivered with actual defects that have to be taken to the dealership and repaired some of them still today unrepaired, it gets an a minus the TRX goes into limp mode to protect itself glitch or not is restarted has no issues no damage no recalls 1000% no fit and finish, issues, industry standard better quality and it gets an a minus, you guys are a sham! Even the tires rubbed on the inner fender on the raptor and you never even mentioned it!!! Sham! Sham! TFL is a sham!! When you guys talk shit about loading and unloading his truck because it’s too tall yeah you would never give that same criticism to the raptor which was ridiculously tall in the first place before the TRX came out??? Cham! You know you don’t speak ill of the Ford because they will cut you off, because you’re a sham! Dodge doesn’t suppress any free-speech rights in the United States of America because they’re not a fraud sham company!!
Not sure why you feel the need to attack the TFL crew and call them out like that. If you don't agree with their grades/evals thats fine, but they aren't in anyones pocket. They even got banned from a ford release event for some of the pre release stuff they posted. Overall, all of the TFL crew seems honest and good peeps.
As for this particular video, id say both trucks are good at what they are designed for. Neither are really necessary, and both are for people with deep pockets, as far as new purchases. Judge with your wallet.
Last gen f150s had absolute shit interior it’s why I never bought one
And this is one reason they're so expensive. Hell I'll take a bench seat with a manual
U didn't realize that from the first time sitting in it at the dealer?? The dashboard tops aren't lined up right on any of them
Hey More Ons, it is all relative. You said it yourselves the weight and EPA are due to the TRX’s bigger, more powerful engine beefed up frame. You you also mentioned the bigger tires thus the wider body. Remember RAM 🐏 built the thing to beat down on the Fraud. Since we are talking about relativity, It is incredible that the TRX got ONLY three MPG less than the Fraud. You and should say that it is an amazing feet that with 300 more Hps , the twice the weight of the Frauds engine and t-Rex 🦖 sized frame and body (fraud’s mouse 🐁 like stature) , I am amazed that the EPA is only three less than the Frauds EPA (TRX gets an A++ vs Fraud gets an F~~) this means the TRX is better everywhere. RAM 🐏 made it so…. Thanks 😊.
That's mpg that I doubt is using the full power of the TRX engine's, if it were it be even worse mate so shut your mouth please 😎
Good Talk guys Good talk, thank you. TRX is a KING. Thank you.
King of what? Copying ford? Took them alot of years to catch up.
This is a Ford excuse video. I'm a fan of this channel but it really feels like Ford asked them to make this to exaggerate any benefit of the Raptor and exaggerate any problems with the TRX. Trying to get people to wait for the new Raptor. I have a TRX so I may be biased but there are soooo many people trading the Raptors for TRXs right now i bet Ford is panicking. This is the first time I've felt like this Channel is pandering.
Turbo charged and supercharged engines actually have lower compression to combat detonation
Lower compression ratios. Still have higher compression pressures. Peak temperatures cause detonation.
As much as I like my 18' F150, the quality control on the vehicle is terrible. Noise from the rear end that is "normal" from Ford, noises from the instrument panel, and having the truck in the shop for a month it fix the 4WD is just bad. Know two others with the same year, trim and engine and they all have the same issues. Put in a build order for a Ram Rebel this past week after having driven two of them and even rode in my buddy's current gen Ram 1500.
You have to remember that there are considerably taller people than you both. These vehicles and fullsize SUVs are what we fit in, so the crossovers, coupes and sedans don't fit unless heavily modified. So please qualify your height concerns as to not influence size changes.
Electric trucks are not ready for prime time.
I agree
It’s very interesting to hear Nathan correcting Andrey’s English. As a Russian speaker I understand his word choices, because they have a different meaning. For example; He is talking about mass, Andrey is not talking about weight He meant the massive size, in both length and width. Or when he is trying to Signify the importance for Roman traveling on New Years night to pick up the truck, In Russian culture New Years has the same value as Christmas in the US.
. Maybe 🤔 try using headphones so you guys don’t talk over each other. Otherwise love the content. Would love to hear stories about Nathan’s racing.