I love how this "easy" video got way more complicated, but you were willing to do it and not just say, "Whelp, that's all, folks." That is really interesting about that case for the DJI Action 2, though.
@@DavidManningvlog I'm glad you stuck it through. I think it turned out great. Now, which battery did you run in the GoPro, the regular or the endurobattery? Wonder if that would have any effect? I know it's more a firmware thing, still something to ponder as well.
Note that the Action 2 will last longer in both Standard and High modes if ONLY the camera module has the cover installed (e.g. keeping the screen or battery module uncovered), as the additional module (without the cover) helps dissipate heat (and avoids the issue of the camera just popping off that you mentioned!)
I had no idea the plastic case helped with heat! I bought it for mine when they launched it and I loved it for extra protection. Lol. Just finished the rest of the video and I didn’t even test how easily that bottom piece comes out of the case. The top part is secure as hell though. I had a hell of a time popping that thing out the first time. Washington state here. 😁
Both cameras are amazing in what they accomplish. Image quality, stabilization and functionality. I don’t do high frame rate stuff so I never have problem with my hero10. Like you said at the beginning, and I wish you would have repeated in the summary: using them as action cams and just getting short shots of 2-4 minutes at a pop, they work fine even with higher frame rates.
Hi David, well done on this comprehensive test. Being a DJI lover I considered bying the DJI Action 2. Had the chance to test it as well against the GoPro10. For my use the GoPro10 had my preference. The magnetic system was not my piece of cake as I use the cam in bumpy conditions. I did not trust it to stick. I had overheating issues with th GoPro10 but after de latest firmware update not anymore. I tested the GoPro 10 as a dashcam, so long recording and yes it heats up, but after a recording time I never use. So GoPro10 it is for me.
@@colossusX1 I use to driving my car with the camera mounted in chest or in a cap. I also fixed the camera in the license plate or in my bike. Also use it to drive in Gran Turismo 7 with the Logitech wheels fixed in my chest too. I have a DJI drone so I would like to mount the camera on the top and test it. I pretend to take some street photos with my gear soon and recorder it with the Action 2 .
Thanks for this comparsion. After watching it, for me it was totaly clear that i go with the...... mustache! 👍 I bought the hero10 this week cause its a cam for everything.
I hope DJI action 3 will have the first action form factor just with all the software upgrades, it is the best one, we don't need complicated stuff but a sturdy action cam that can take a beating and record without overheating like crazy.
Gopro is covered in a durable plastic/rubber blanket, totally waterproof without a case. I have my night lapse issues with GP cameras but Im just happy to have the worlds best consumer priced in my pocket. Naturally I would prefer power off and protect damaged components over blowing up near my privets. The possibility of you reviewing a camera this time next year that can truly see in the dark and shutting down after 17:47 recording is very near my friend. NY
Hi! If you have the opportunity try the "enduro battery" performance from go pro to spot if there is any increase in recording duration before overheat...😉👍
Hey David, great video (actually never seen anything approaching a bad video from you). I don’t own a DJI camera, but was curious if you could just use the case on the top part and not the bottom to get the “overheat protection” but not have the mounting issue…and if possible, would it effect your overheat time…and you thought you were done with these tests…
from my own testing I use the protective case just at the top part and the bottom part gets REALLY hot and you have to be careful. I even noticed that it gets worst when transferring files from internal memory to external SD card.
Hey Dave, Ah man, had my msg completed and YT wigged out and retying now. Basically said I use both. GP10 for extreme sports as you only need extra batteries and some accessories such as tripods and mounts. A2 for vlogging and family videos. Both are great and easy gear to film. For overheating, I’ve shared this on other posts that when you shoot long form and studio style, you cannot avoid thermal physics. Designing small form factor + weatherproof/waterproof + shooting high frames rates with stabilization, bluetooth, gps, etc will overheat at some point. Heat is trapped and cannot release. In these use cases, I use a hack and attached with a velco + Blackshark Fun Cooler 2 Pro Magnetic version (smaller) + Volta or some battery bank tripod and you can shoot to your heart content without worrying about overheating. As for the magnetic case, DJI uses the trigger from the Macro lens that recognizes that it is on and so you can push temps above the 53degC which is above Canada/UK/EU consumer handheld safety allowed. Sony did this years ago, standard mode for handheld use and high mode for tripod use. The magnetic case doesn’t disperse any heat, just ensures if you use handheld, you have a layer to not burn your hand or drop the A2 and sue DJI. All these action cams should get into the practice to do user guide videos on their products and intended design. Otherwise YT community uses it wrongly or it’s a user error and then the bashing narrative comes. I love it because I got basically 2 A2 for the price of 1 on Ebay as people were dumping theirs. I shoot short form as you said in this video and don’t encounter overheating but if and when I do shoot long form or on tripod, I turn off stabilization, bluetooth, gps, etc like when using airplane mode or with GP or Sony, I use tripod mode and it last a long time. And if I want to shoot over the 1hr+ mark, then strap a velcro with an active cooling fan used by gamers on smartphones and shoot all day with no restrictions.
I did think maybe it is what temperature you said when it is in the magnetic case. Just wondered though, why didn't you use the temperature gun when you tested it with the magnetic case?
Do you happen to use filter lenses with the action 2? I've found that the magnet is not strong enough to use on the outside with the case on and the case is not big enough to allow space for it to be attached and still fit within the case - for reference I am using Telesin ND filters, but I would imagine freewells have the same issue?
This is one of the main reason I've stayed with my original Osmo Action, I've never had any overheating issues while most peeps that I know running Go pros are always complaining of it shutting down. Great vid as always David, that stash is glorious 😂
I am so sick. I wish I would've seen this video. I lost my action to in the pool because of that stupid plastic case. It slipped right off exactly like you demonstrated. Oh I'm so pissed off. I wish I would've seen this sooner.
You are able to break down the most complex camera equation to basic layman terms so anyone with a public school education can understand. Love it and keep the videos coming!!
it is good decision to buy dji actio 2 in december 2023 (how it's battery life in 4k 60 fps in just a camera mod) .i'm living Bangladesh where normal temp is 35 degree .so should i buy it ?
I’m in the UK. Why bother with having to fix the DJI heat issue with the case, I’d definitely stick with the Hero 10, never had any issues with it. DJI should stick to what they do best, drones. Great video as always David, what’s that thing above your lip lol?
I own both and I prefer the Action 2. I live in the U.S. and I do not prefer the magnetic case. One other issue with the magnetic case is it "wobbles" around and you can hear a clicking sound in the audio which makes the case not usable unless you have an external mic IMO. I agree it is a software trick to allow for DJI to turn up the heat. There are aftermarket aluminum cases that can also help with the heat as they act as a heat sink while also giving you quarter twenty threads and cold shoe mounts. At the end of the day I just prefer the quality and software experience of DJI. GoPros are plagued with issues and I have way more problems with GoPro products versus DJI products. I also prefer the footage from DJI vs GoPro. They are both good cameras, but or me DJI is the clear winner.
@@matt_pang It’s good but I didn’t have any issues with the quality of the H10 so I may not be the best person to ask, overall I feel the Action 2 is just a more premium product in every way. But I also feel the action 2 is not a replacement for a GoPro, the Action 2 is in its own category IMO.
Please could you tell me if I can record on Action 2 while charging? No one is really talking about it. I really wanna know if it's possible to charge while recording
Here in India, the Action 2 power combo retails for under 30k(~$360) while the GPH10 goes for over 45k(~$560) after the recent price drop. If the Action 2 can match the GoPro's performance or even come close to it, I don't see a reason to opt for the latter. Thanks for the comparison.
It's actually pretty hard to get either camera to overheat in 24fps. The general rule with these cameras is that frame rate is what causes heat. So resolution doesn't matter too much
Does the Action have the longest record time if you combine the high heat mode with the magnetic case? If not, the magnetic case is indeed triggering the mid-level software mode…
I’m in Tampa, Florida and I have the GoPro 10. It’s 90-95 degrees with a heat index of 105-115 some days. The black case adds a few degrees in the sun anyways. I was disappointed with how quickly it overheats. I haven’t timed it, but it’s probably less than 20 mins
David, I don't know if you will reply but if I want the Action 2 just for taking photos and recording for example at a rollercoaster while I travel, it does the work?
Great vid as always, thank you! I'm about to send back my action 2 because never, under any circumstances, has went recording for more than 8 minutes - and I'm talking 1080 p 25 fps, magnetic case, standard mode - I don't know if it's a faulty specimen that I've got since your results but that's what makes me wanna change and never go back, even if I really loved it on every other level... Man, that sucks 😓
Hey just want a opinion I just bought for a pilgrimage trip coming up in October a GoPro 10 and I didn’t know about the overheating issue because this is my first go pro. Is the 10 worth it of should I down grande to the 9 I can’t go lower because I also bought the max lens and media mod for the display mod. I want to use it for hands free on a head mount walk around or up to shines or temples because I am doing a 88 temple pilgrimage in Japan. I also want to move between video and still photos will I be ok
Would you recommend it for things such as biking and rockclimbing with a good frame (like the one from ulanzi?) I want to get a camera and get used to it before I take a trip next year
Firstly, kudos for the skateboard chops. You're really good. Secondly, thanks for the review of both. I was in the process of researching to see which one I should get for an upcoming trip abroad (I live in the US), but I think Gopro is my best option. It's all going to be quick action shots anyway. No hour-long Gopro. Too hard to edit long vids anyway.
I had to force it to do it but now it does it. however if I'm wiggling it while mounted on shorty tripod it doesn't come off. and in general I don't do anything too risky with the battery mount or the screen mount since they aren't water proof.
@@DavidManningvlogI was wondering the same thing as I watched this. How hot did the it get in the plastic case. You're going to have to add oven mitts to your camera bag. Sounds like a future review... Best oven mitts for your DJI
David, I'm wanting to use my GoPro 10 for shooting in a car, air conditioned, mounted to the windshield. Frame rate set to 24, no stabilization, front screen off, GPS on and voice control on (so I can control it while driving)... and less than 15 minutes for it to overheat... Not reasonable.
I took the battery & battery door out of mine and used the cable to charge it. Wasn't timing it and did stop a couple of times turning it off for 5 minutes or so but it did not overheat with total travel time (including stops) of roughly 6 hours.
Well that's really odd Pat, I film with mine doing the same thing, but WITH stabilization on, and I get well over an hour and it only shuts off because the battery dies. It's never overheated in that setup for me🤷♂
Great testing there David! I'm really impressed by your sticktoitiveness!! I live in the US, and use the GoPro 10. I'm not in the market for a new action cam, the GP 10 does all I need it to do. (Sweet mustache too, you sexy thing! Lol!!)
Hi David, I recently bought the GoPro Hero 10 to film my TH-cam channel, Bradd's Boredom Busters a textile art channel. I have only had it for a short time and only used it on a couple of videos, which means for my channel I use it stationary and indoors. I have found that it does heat up but it's never heated up enough to shut its self off. I do monitor it because of watching videos like yours that makes me aware that it get very hot. My experience is though, it's not the camera that's getting hot but actually the battery itself that heats up which heats up the camera, so when it gets hot I take out the hot battery and put in a fresh cool battery, that allows me to video for a longer length of time. You might bring this up solution in one of your future videos to make your viewers aware that it's the batterys getting hot and simply change it out to keep the camera from getting overheated. Thank you for your videos. Yours truly Bradd C.
Already got Action 2, got rid of the One RS bc of workflow, looking forward to GoPro 11, don't care about even higher resolutions or frame rate, maybe they can make it with an internal fan, or different materials to address overheating would be awesome! ( I use the cameras on for extended periods of time out in 90°+ temps )
same here, wanted for fishing vids, couldn't handle a couple of minutes in the heat plus recording and boom camera too hot. really wanted my GoPro 10 to work.
Oh that stache!!!! According to Kyle this video must perform well. We know your wife loves it! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 lots of testing and dedication here! Great job dude!
for a true action camera it has the best combination of size/performance. Not everyone needs 5.3K, streaming, horizon leveling. I just want a small camera with stabilization, and stereo audio inputs(preferably a 3.5mm jack) I hope dji will put one out someday
@@GIZZMOTORSPORTS I bought a Cynova audio adapter a couple months after buying the Osmo (2019), and it's worked well. I found one for $20. You have to temporarily remove the door, which defeats the waterproofing; but no external mic setup would be waterproof. For watersports I just live with the onboard mics, which are fine, considering all the aqua noise happening when in those situations.
@@BobMutch I have that, but the cynova only allows mono audio. I’m also mixing speaker and line level inputs. I’ve made a work around, have it as good as can be expected.
My hero 9 overheats. So does my hero 8. But I was filming in 4K in 99+ degree weather. In Az. Run my cameras for 4-8 hours at a time. Using pass through power helped, but my hero 9 seems to freeze up doing that.
Tough! It's going to be hard for any camera to stay cool in that situation. On the GoPro, when doing externally powered, have you tried it without the battery inside? It allows some airflow to get to the inner bits and seems to help a ton!
It's really hard to say which is better because GoPro could be doing the same software tweaks to let it run hotter, especially with the test you did at 4K120 in "Standard Heat" mode for the DJI. The results for 4K60 with the DJI even in "Standard Heat" mode shows that still DJI is superior but this could just mean DJI chooses not to let it run hotter at 120 whereas GoPro ups the threshold a bit. I think what would really help sort of "standardize" which is better is to see what the actual temperature the cameras are running at in all the settings up to the point before they shut off (of course this would be a crazy video). Especially with the DJI case, it would be easy to see if there's actual thermal dissipation going on by using a thermal camera or if it's really just a software tweak.
Another note that someone else commented on: High heat will damage the batteries your'e using. On the Action 2, the cam mod has a non-replaceable internal battery and the battery/screen mod are super expensive. Having your Action 2 overheat could be really bad for long term battery life, compared to the GoPro where you can just swap it out👍
The one thing that would make the Action 2 much more useable for me would be a waterproof battery mod with micro SD card. Exactly the same as the current battery mod but waterproof. That would be a game changer for the use-ability of the Action 2! I have the waterproof case on order but I suspect you won't be able to use the touch screen when in the case so it will end up being a bit of a pain.
true that.. I hope DJI makes one. also if or when the built in battery loses it's capacity over time, these battery modules can be purchased and used as a removable battery, if anyone is planning to keep this camera for such a long time.
Thanks for this test, I have both and love them. I live in Norway, Europe. And for one strange reason I can set it to high. Think its because Norway is not a part of EU ( the union )
Used Gopro 4, 7, 8, 9 without a single problem. The Hero 10 is barely usable for me, for longer clip but hey, it's what I use them for. Switched back to the Hero 9
I was looking at the DJI as a wearable (like the Go2) but with the overheating, not sure that is a good idea. I currently switch between the Go2 & Hero10 as one wearable & the other on top of my camera. The GoPro is a little large for both purposes. Maybe I will just wait for a third option. It's all just for fun.
Nice video, i'm in europe and have had a lot of overheating issues. Best way to get rid of them is recording in 30fps which is not ideal for me. But would also metion that you didn't test the dji action 2 without power/screen combo, with and without a case. It makes the results even weirder. The thermal case for dji sucks. The case reduces the magnet strength, making the pendant use more dangerous. To be honest both DJI and Gopro should not advertise 4k 60 if they can't maintain it for the whole recording duration. Its like if you got a computer that can run windows 11 Crashes every 20 minutes, BUT HEY see it runs(for 20 minutes). I do not regret purchasing dji action 2 but i do find its shortcommings to be a deal breaker for many people. As for go pro, I was dissapointed in it even more when i saw a comparison I thought it was better in terms of thermals, but i guess i was wrong.
Does direct sunlight and/or high outside temps add to the overheating? I’ve put my Sony RX-100 vii in shade and it doesn’t over heat as fast. But I live near Fresno where it get over 100 a lot!
It’s a tough comparison to make really. Sort of apples and oranges, ya know? These are going to have better image quality, but limited perspective. While with the Insta360, you have slightly lower image quality, but unlimited perspective. For action sports where I’m trying to film myself, I go for the Insta360 100% of the time, but if I’m trying to film someone else or get more “cinematic” of a look, then I’ll grab the GoPro. The GoPro is also less work on the back end because you don’t have to reframe the footage. But while I’ll miss shots with the GoPro, you literally cant’ miss a shot with the Insta360. So pros and cons both ways🤷♂️
@@DavidManningvlog that's want i want to know..very thanks for the info..as a beginner like me that don't have any of those camera ..as what as you say the gopro has more easy to use and have better quality Maybe someday i could buy one .God bless sir David manning i will always watch your vid More Power Sir.
I just bought the Action 2 from Amazon for $299 with the screen combo. Much better deal than GoPro and their stupid subscription! I’m sick of these companies nickel & diming customers with subscriptions! I’m not worried about the heat because I would never leave the camera running for 30+ minutes! That’s why I have my EOS R! GoPro had their chance…I have the Hero 3 Black and the 4 Silver and the Session…quite old….but their company greed stopped me from buy from them again!!!
On RC cars models there are some heatsink made out of aluminum and they have a fan build in and the are normally used to dissipate the heat from the ESC of the RC car, plane, boat, etc.... you can get them from Amazon or AliExpress. I saw another video and this guy just place a magnet somewhere over the case of the camera and made the camera believe that the plastic case was placed on and it activates that middle range temp tolerance you mention, so the is a way to help the camera to cool down. However we are talking about an action camera and if it is used as intended, then when you are in sports, in a bicycle, etc the wind should help to cool down. I'm thinking on buy it, it is 12/10/22 and on Amazon the price just drop down to $239 and $269 with the power module and screen module....
I saw a few videos where people from europe showed that the high temp option is available for them too Regarding the results of the dji - i wouldnt say that the 5 mins in 4K/120 are a dealbreaker, because when are you filming sequences that long while needing a framerate this high? Considering that the best price for the gopro is currently at 370€ and for the action 2 240€ (Germany), its even easier to let those flaws slip.
Tbh, I'm not sure how you got that much recording time from the DJI Action 2. I tried filming with the Action 2 using 4k 120fps and I got around 3-ish close to 4 minutes of recording lol. The case was attached, and the firmware was up-to-date, so no idea. I tried turning it back on and I managed to squeeze in 2 more minutes before I couldn't record anything anymore. Sadly I returned it after that experience. :(
I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact that the GoPro image is so much sharper and cleaner looking than the DJI. That alone makes the GoPro the better buy. The DJI looked too soft
I just posted this same question, too bad about the overheat but the side by side comparison the GoPro colors were deeper whereas the DJI looked oversaturated and brighter and washed out.
Well here we are in 2024 in UK and I have a gopro 12 but just bought a dji action 2 the 128gb, the reason is just that I can use it in more scenarios in holiday with my kids but I can use other on my cycling rides too. I use it in a smallring cage when cycling so it os more protected and just normal case in holiday. So it can be mounted in more pmces easy like POV on my kids or on head of my kids.
I own both but use the DJI action 2 the majority of the time. I enjoy the image, the color and the rocksteady so much more. I also found the DJI case to be a benefit. I originally bought the smallrig case but quickly replaced it.
Can you tell me if DJI action 2 detects smallrig case also as a magnetic case and increases recording time, as the magnetic case from DJI is not available in india, please!!!
As someone who lives in a tropical Country, these results got me really worried! If 21~22ºC is a hot summer day in the US and the cameras overheat that quick, I think they would be unusable on a 30~36ºC day under sun! 21ºC is considered a chilly day here.
Sorry, but for me the Magnetic Case does not give any benefit in recording time at all. I live in Europe and I have only Standard Temperature mode. Action 2 Power Combo. Firmware: 01.03.30.20. I just did two indoor recording tests (temp 24° C) at 4K@120 and RockSteady stabilization: WITH Magnetic Case + Power Module: 6 min 08 sec WITHOUT Magnetic Case + Power Module: 6 min 09 sec 4K@60 WITH Magnetic Case + Power Module + RS stabilization: 8 min 38 sec Any suggestions? Thank you very much.
How has yours been in terms of overheating? What resolution and frames do you usually record in? Really wanna pull the trigger, but doing research first
FINALLY! A reviewer that runs some thorough testing, rather than glossing over pesky details. I LOVE this video. Thank you so much!! 😁
Stoked that you're here, thanks for watching man!
I love how this "easy" video got way more complicated, but you were willing to do it and not just say, "Whelp, that's all, folks." That is really interesting about that case for the DJI Action 2, though.
Man, it was TOUGH Milledge! I almost tossed this one in the trash a few times being so frustrated, but I had to see for myself!
@@DavidManningvlog I'm glad you stuck it through. I think it turned out great. Now, which battery did you run in the GoPro, the regular or the endurobattery? Wonder if that would have any effect? I know it's more a firmware thing, still something to ponder as well.
Fantastic review. Thanks so much for your honesty.
Try just using the top case if you going to record doing some action sport... I don't know if going to work the same but it's an idea! Have to try it!
Note that the Action 2 will last longer in both Standard and High modes if ONLY the camera module has the cover installed (e.g. keeping the screen or battery module uncovered), as the additional module (without the cover) helps dissipate heat (and avoids the issue of the camera just popping off that you mentioned!)
I had no idea the plastic case helped with heat! I bought it for mine when they launched it and I loved it for extra protection. Lol.
Just finished the rest of the video and I didn’t even test how easily that bottom piece comes out of the case. The top part is secure as hell though. I had a hell of a time popping that thing out the first time.
Washington state here. 😁
Both cameras are amazing in what they accomplish. Image quality, stabilization and functionality. I don’t do high frame rate stuff so I never have problem with my hero10. Like you said at the beginning, and I wish you would have repeated in the summary: using them as action cams and just getting short shots of 2-4 minutes at a pop, they work fine even with higher frame rates.
I'm just researching this. My GoPro Hero 10 overheated yesterday, at the gym, at 4K / 25 fps. HyperSmooth off. After 40 minutes. Kinda ridiculous tbh.
Yeah amazing at overheating
Hi David, well done on this comprehensive test. Being a DJI lover I considered bying the DJI Action 2. Had the chance to test it as well against the GoPro10. For my use the GoPro10 had my preference. The magnetic system was not my piece of cake as I use the cam in bumpy conditions. I did not trust it to stick. I had overheating issues with th GoPro10 but after de latest firmware update not anymore.
I tested the GoPro 10 as a dashcam, so long recording and yes it heats up, but after a recording time I never use. So GoPro10 it is for me.
My video testing the overheating in the UK produced those same 4--5min results. Crazy!
I need to do a new one comparing with the case though
Totally Rob! The case makes it a decently usable camera🙌
Excellent review!
I bought the Action 2 because is very flexible for different kinds of use and very light and small. Tks
May I ask what you use it for? Thinking about purchasing one.
@@colossusX1 I use to driving my car with the camera mounted in chest or in a cap. I also fixed the camera in the license plate or in my bike. Also use it to drive in Gran Turismo 7 with the Logitech wheels fixed in my chest too. I have a DJI drone so I would like to mount the camera on the top and test it. I pretend to take some street photos with my gear soon and recorder it with the Action 2 .
hi, What tripod you using on this test?
Thanks for this comparsion. After watching it, for me it was totaly clear that i go with the...... mustache! 👍
I bought the hero10 this week cause its a cam for everything.
BOTH solid points! Hahaha!🤣
I hope DJI action 3 will have the first action form factor just with all the software upgrades, it is the best one, we don't need complicated stuff but a sturdy action cam that can take a beating and record without overheating like crazy.
Gopro is covered in a durable plastic/rubber blanket, totally waterproof without a case. I have my night lapse issues with GP cameras but Im just happy to have the worlds best consumer priced in my pocket. Naturally I would prefer power off and protect damaged components over blowing up near my privets. The possibility of you reviewing a camera this time next year that can truly see in the dark and shutting down after 17:47 recording is very near my friend. NY
Really good work testing these things. Nice job, David!
Fantastic video! Great analysis! Congrats mate!
Just thank you for the clean view!! I bought the dji action 2 today and i'm also confused about how hot its comes !
What's the point of a test at 73ﾟ? I want to know how fast it will overheat in California's mid nineties
Hi! If you have the opportunity try the "enduro battery" performance from go pro to spot if there is any increase in recording duration before overheat...😉👍
Amazing testvideo! Thanks 🙏
Hey David, great video (actually never seen anything approaching a bad video from you). I don’t own a DJI camera, but was curious if you could just use the case on the top part and not the bottom to get the “overheat protection” but not have the mounting issue…and if possible, would it effect your overheat time…and you thought you were done with these tests…
from my own testing I use the protective case just at the top part and the bottom part gets REALLY hot and you have to be careful. I even noticed that it gets worst when transferring files from internal memory to external SD card.
Speaking of overheating, Do you have AC in your garage studio?
Hey Dave,
Ah man, had my msg completed and YT wigged out and retying now.
Basically said I use both. GP10 for extreme sports as you only need extra batteries and some accessories such as tripods and mounts.
A2 for vlogging and family videos.
Both are great and easy gear to film.
For overheating, I’ve shared this on other posts that when you shoot long form and studio style, you cannot avoid thermal physics. Designing small form factor + weatherproof/waterproof + shooting high frames rates with stabilization, bluetooth, gps, etc will overheat at some point. Heat is trapped and cannot release.
In these use cases, I use a hack and attached with a velco + Blackshark Fun Cooler 2 Pro Magnetic version (smaller) + Volta or some battery bank tripod and you can shoot to your heart content without worrying about overheating.
As for the magnetic case, DJI uses the trigger from the Macro lens that recognizes that it is on and so you can push temps above the 53degC which is above Canada/UK/EU consumer handheld safety allowed.
Sony did this years ago, standard mode for handheld use and high mode for tripod use.
The magnetic case doesn’t disperse any heat, just ensures if you use handheld, you have a layer to not burn your hand or drop the A2 and sue DJI.
All these action cams should get into the practice to do user guide videos on their products and intended design. Otherwise YT community uses it wrongly or it’s a user error and then the bashing narrative comes. I love it because I got basically 2 A2 for the price of 1 on Ebay as people were dumping theirs.
I shoot short form as you said in this video and don’t encounter overheating but if and when I do shoot long form or on tripod, I turn off stabilization, bluetooth, gps, etc like when using airplane mode or with GP or Sony, I use tripod mode and it last a long time. And if I want to shoot over the 1hr+ mark, then strap a velcro with an active cooling fan used by gamers on smartphones and shoot all day with no restrictions.
I did think maybe it is what temperature you said when it is in the magnetic case. Just wondered though, why didn't you use the temperature gun when you tested it with the magnetic case?
Do you happen to use filter lenses with the action 2? I've found that the magnet is not strong enough to use on the outside with the case on and the case is not big enough to allow space for it to be attached and still fit within the case - for reference I am using Telesin ND filters, but I would imagine freewells have the same issue?
Glad you kept the warmer background. 🤩👍👍
This is one of the main reason I've stayed with my original Osmo Action, I've never had any overheating issues while most peeps that I know running Go pros are always complaining of it shutting down. Great vid as always David, that stash is glorious 😂
This is a very useful video, good job
Thanks Michael, I appreciate you watching!
I am so sick. I wish I would've seen this video. I lost my action to in the pool because of that stupid plastic case. It slipped right off exactly like you demonstrated. Oh I'm so pissed off. I wish I would've seen this sooner.
You are able to break down the most complex camera equation to basic layman terms so anyone with a public school education can understand. Love it and keep the videos coming!!
it is good decision to buy dji actio 2 in december 2023 (how it's battery life in 4k 60 fps in just a camera mod) .i'm living Bangladesh where normal temp is 35 degree .so should i buy it ?
I’m in the UK. Why bother with having to fix the DJI heat issue with the case, I’d definitely stick with the Hero 10, never had any issues with it. DJI should stick to what they do best, drones. Great video as always David, what’s that thing above your lip lol?
I own both and I prefer the Action 2. I live in the U.S. and I do not prefer the magnetic case. One other issue with the magnetic case is it "wobbles" around and you can hear a clicking sound in the audio which makes the case not usable unless you have an external mic IMO. I agree it is a software trick to allow for DJI to turn up the heat. There are aftermarket aluminum cases that can also help with the heat as they act as a heat sink while also giving you quarter twenty threads and cold shoe mounts. At the end of the day I just prefer the quality and software experience of DJI. GoPros are plagued with issues and I have way more problems with GoPro products versus DJI products. I also prefer the footage from DJI vs GoPro. They are both good cameras, but or me DJI is the clear winner.
I own the hero 10 and notice how poor quality the front screen looks. How does the front screen look of the action 2 look compared to hero 10?
@@matt_pang It’s good but I didn’t have any issues with the quality of the H10 so I may not be the best person to ask, overall I feel the Action 2 is just a more premium product in every way. But I also feel the action 2 is not a replacement for a GoPro, the Action 2 is in its own category IMO.
Please could you tell me if I can record on Action 2 while charging? No one is really talking about it. I really wanna know if it's possible to charge while recording
@@altair_de_sevens yes it’s possible, however you might run into overheating issues as the action 2 gets hot while charging.
great stuff. i am impressed.
Here in India, the Action 2 power combo retails for under 30k(~$360) while the GPH10 goes for over 45k(~$560) after the recent price drop. If the Action 2 can match the GoPro's performance or even come close to it, I don't see a reason to opt for the latter. Thanks for the comparison.
I got the action 2 dual screen combo for 30$
What about 2.7K, 24fps, and stabilization? How long do you think it lasts without the case on standard heating mode?
It's actually pretty hard to get either camera to overheat in 24fps. The general rule with these cameras is that frame rate is what causes heat. So resolution doesn't matter too much
Does the Action have the longest record time if you combine the high heat mode with the magnetic case? If not, the magnetic case is indeed triggering the mid-level software mode…
Does DJI ship the product with this extra case in the box when you buy it now? I would say they should.
So how to record a timelapse if the cameras only run for 5mins?
If recording on a tripod indoors, would removing the battery door in theory help dissipate heat as well?
I’m in Tampa, Florida and I have the GoPro 10. It’s 90-95 degrees with a heat index of 105-115 some days. The black case adds a few degrees in the sun anyways. I was disappointed with how quickly it overheats. I haven’t timed it, but it’s probably less than 20 mins
David, I don't know if you will reply but if I want the Action 2 just for taking photos and recording for example at a rollercoaster while I travel, it does the work?
Great vid as always, thank you! I'm about to send back my action 2 because never, under any circumstances, has went recording for more than 8 minutes - and I'm talking 1080 p 25 fps, magnetic case, standard mode - I don't know if it's a faulty specimen that I've got since your results but that's what makes me wanna change and never go back, even if I really loved it on every other level... Man, that sucks 😓
Hey just want a opinion I just bought for a pilgrimage trip coming up in October a GoPro 10 and I didn’t know about the overheating issue because this is my first go pro. Is the 10 worth it of should I down grande to the 9 I can’t go lower because I also bought the max lens and media mod for the display mod. I want to use it for hands free on a head mount walk around or up to shines or temples because I am doing a 88 temple pilgrimage in Japan. I also want to move between video and still photos will I be ok
I've run the Action 2 in high heat since it came out. Last thing I'm worried about is hurting the hardware.
Would you recommend it for things such as biking and rockclimbing with a good frame (like the one from ulanzi?) I want to get a camera and get used to it before I take a trip next year
thanks for doing this test, and helping me make a better decision on what not to get haha appreciate you making these videos for us David!
Where are you? 70 something degrees sounds so nice
Good ole San Diego!
Amazing results 👍
Firstly, kudos for the skateboard chops. You're really good. Secondly, thanks for the review of both. I was in the process of researching to see which one I should get for an upcoming trip abroad (I live in the US), but I think Gopro is my best option. It's all going to be quick action shots anyway. No hour-long Gopro. Too hard to edit long vids anyway.
Thanks Kelly! Totally with you on the short clips. So much better and easier to edit!
What settings did you use for the GoPro? The maximum mount or the tripod settings? And what battery did you use?
5:00 - I usually see this category on different sites
The battery base doesn't slip out like your screen base does.
the interlocking clips between the camera and the battery stop it from moving. weird.
Try playing with it some more because the battery base I have is doing the same thing. Watch what I do in the video and do the same with yours👍
I had to force it to do it but now it does it. however if I'm wiggling it while mounted on shorty tripod it doesn't come off. and in general I don't do anything too risky with the battery mount or the screen mount since they aren't water proof.
Are there alternatives to this case? That would be a great follow up video.
Such a good video!
Wasn't it possible to get the action 2 out of the case directly after the test to measure its temperature and confirm your assumptions?
Yes... but I did not do that😑 I'll do it and get back to you with the results!
@@DavidManningvlogI was wondering the same thing as I watched this. How hot did the it get in the plastic case. You're going to have to add oven mitts to your camera bag. Sounds like a future review... Best oven mitts for your DJI
@@DavidManningvlog i was just wondering. I’m only here to enjoy your content, not to tell you what to do. 😇
You need to do comparative EMF testing for each camera as an extra stat .
We have the high temperature mode in Australia too 😄
David, I'm wanting to use my GoPro 10 for shooting in a car, air conditioned, mounted to the windshield. Frame rate set to 24, no stabilization, front screen off, GPS on and voice control on (so I can control it while driving)... and less than 15 minutes for it to overheat...
Not reasonable.
I took the battery & battery door out of mine and used the cable to charge it.
Wasn't timing it and did stop a couple of times turning it off for 5 minutes or so but it did not overheat with total travel time (including stops) of roughly 6 hours.
Well that's really odd Pat, I film with mine doing the same thing, but WITH stabilization on, and I get well over an hour and it only shuts off because the battery dies. It's never overheated in that setup for me🤷♂
Great testing there David! I'm really impressed by your sticktoitiveness!! I live in the US, and use the GoPro 10. I'm not in the market for a new action cam, the GP 10 does all I need it to do. (Sweet mustache too, you sexy thing! Lol!!)
Hi David, I recently bought the GoPro Hero 10 to film my TH-cam channel, Bradd's Boredom Busters a textile art channel. I have only had it for a short time and only used it on a couple of videos, which means for my channel I use it stationary and indoors. I have found that it does heat up but it's never heated up enough to shut its self off. I do monitor it because of watching videos like yours that makes me aware that it get very hot. My experience is though, it's not the camera that's getting hot but actually the battery itself that heats up which heats up the camera, so when it gets hot I take out the hot battery and put in a fresh cool battery, that allows me to video for a longer length of time. You might bring this up solution in one of your future videos to make your viewers aware that it's the batterys getting hot and simply change it out to keep the camera from getting overheated. Thank you for your videos.
Yours truly Bradd C.
Wow.. that was actual consumer issue discussed and sorted..!!
These brands won't ever tell you these numbers..
Already got Action 2, got rid of the One RS bc of workflow, looking forward to GoPro 11, don't care about even higher resolutions or frame rate, maybe they can make it with an internal fan, or different materials to address overheating would be awesome! ( I use the cameras on for extended periods of time out in 90°+ temps )
same here, wanted for fishing vids, couldn't handle a couple of minutes in the heat plus recording and boom camera too hot. really wanted my GoPro 10 to work.
Oh that stache!!!! According to Kyle this video must perform well. We know your wife loves it! 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 lots of testing and dedication here! Great job dude!
I would go GoPro.
Hælla bruh, Norway here. Got the old osmo cam. Love the stache, keep on with the great content!
Which is the best action camera coz I'm confused
Live in Australia, but much prefer gopro. What tripod are you using in this video?
Nice explanation.. still thinking go to GPH OR DJI2. 🙂
Osmo Action 1 is still my favorite form factor: uni-body, circular and replaceable lens cover, in-built heat sink, OG dual screen...
for a true action camera it has the best combination of size/performance. Not everyone needs 5.3K, streaming, horizon leveling. I just want a small camera with stabilization, and stereo audio inputs(preferably a 3.5mm jack) I hope dji will put one out someday
@@GIZZMOTORSPORTS I bought a Cynova audio adapter a couple months after buying the Osmo (2019), and it's worked well. I found one for $20. You have to temporarily remove the door, which defeats the waterproofing; but no external mic setup would be waterproof. For watersports I just live with the onboard mics, which are fine, considering all the aqua noise happening when in those situations.
@@BobMutch I have that, but the cynova only allows mono audio. I’m also mixing speaker and line level inputs. I’ve made a work around, have it as good as can be expected.
And yes, the onboard mics are good too
@@GIZZMOTORSPORTS Will Osmo even record stereo?
My hero 9 overheats. So does my hero 8. But I was filming in 4K in 99+ degree weather. In Az. Run my cameras for 4-8 hours at a time. Using pass through power helped, but my hero 9 seems to freeze up doing that.
Tough! It's going to be hard for any camera to stay cool in that situation. On the GoPro, when doing externally powered, have you tried it without the battery inside? It allows some airflow to get to the inner bits and seems to help a ton!
It's really hard to say which is better because GoPro could be doing the same software tweaks to let it run hotter, especially with the test you did at 4K120 in "Standard Heat" mode for the DJI. The results for 4K60 with the DJI even in "Standard Heat" mode shows that still DJI is superior but this could just mean DJI chooses not to let it run hotter at 120 whereas GoPro ups the threshold a bit. I think what would really help sort of "standardize" which is better is to see what the actual temperature the cameras are running at in all the settings up to the point before they shut off (of course this would be a crazy video). Especially with the DJI case, it would be easy to see if there's actual thermal dissipation going on by using a thermal camera or if it's really just a software tweak.
Another note that someone else commented on: High heat will damage the batteries your'e using. On the Action 2, the cam mod has a non-replaceable internal battery and the battery/screen mod are super expensive. Having your Action 2 overheat could be really bad for long term battery life, compared to the GoPro where you can just swap it out👍
The one thing that would make the Action 2 much more useable for me would be a waterproof battery mod with micro SD card. Exactly the same as the current battery mod but waterproof. That would be a game changer for the use-ability of the Action 2! I have the waterproof case on order but I suspect you won't be able to use the touch screen when in the case so it will end up being a bit of a pain.
true that.. I hope DJI makes one. also if or when the built in battery loses it's capacity over time, these battery modules can be purchased and used as a removable battery, if anyone is planning to keep this camera for such a long time.
Thanks for this test, I have both and love them. I live in Norway, Europe. And for one strange reason I can set it to high. Think its because Norway is not a part of EU ( the union )
Maybe having only the top part of the case and no case on the sceen/power unit would get the same filming time and be sturdy in the mount ?
Used Gopro 4, 7, 8, 9 without a single problem. The Hero 10 is barely usable for me, for longer clip but hey, it's what I use them for. Switched back to the Hero 9
cant use this in Brazil
I was looking at the DJI as a wearable (like the Go2) but with the overheating, not sure that is a good idea.
I currently switch between the Go2 & Hero10 as one wearable & the other on top of my camera. The GoPro is a little large for both purposes.
Maybe I will just wait for a third option. It's all just for fun.
Just a reminder: UK is in Europe and thus does not have to be mentioned seperately when Europe is listed :)
Nice video, i'm in europe and have had a lot of overheating issues. Best way to get rid of them is recording in 30fps which is not ideal for me.
But would also metion that you didn't test the dji action 2 without power/screen combo, with and without a case. It makes the results even weirder.
The thermal case for dji sucks. The case reduces the magnet strength, making the pendant use more dangerous.
To be honest both DJI and Gopro should not advertise 4k 60 if they can't maintain it for the whole recording duration. Its like if you got a computer that can run windows 11 Crashes every 20 minutes, BUT HEY see it runs(for 20 minutes).
I do not regret purchasing dji action 2 but i do find its shortcommings to be a deal breaker for many people. As for go pro, I was dissapointed in it even more when i saw a comparison I thought it was better in terms of thermals, but i guess i was wrong.
Does direct sunlight and/or high outside temps add to the overheating? I’ve put my Sony RX-100 vii in shade and it doesn’t over heat as fast. But I live near Fresno where it get over 100 a lot!
How is it going?- superr~that is stunning view~
Does it overheat in 1080 60fps?
How about 2 of them vs insta360 one x2
It’s a tough comparison to make really. Sort of apples and oranges, ya know? These are going to have better image quality, but limited perspective. While with the Insta360, you have slightly lower image quality, but unlimited perspective. For action sports where I’m trying to film myself, I go for the Insta360 100% of the time, but if I’m trying to film someone else or get more “cinematic” of a look, then I’ll grab the GoPro. The GoPro is also less work on the back end because you don’t have to reframe the footage. But while I’ll miss shots with the GoPro, you literally cant’ miss a shot with the Insta360. So pros and cons both ways🤷♂️
@@DavidManningvlog that's want i want to know..very thanks for the info..as a beginner like me that don't have any of those camera ..as what as you say the gopro has more easy to use and have better quality
Maybe someday i could buy one .God bless sir David manning i will always watch your vid More Power Sir.
I just bought the Action 2 from Amazon for $299 with the screen combo. Much better deal than GoPro and their stupid subscription! I’m sick of these companies nickel & diming customers with subscriptions! I’m not worried about the heat because I would never leave the camera running for 30+ minutes! That’s why I have my EOS R! GoPro had their chance…I have the Hero 3 Black and the 4 Silver and the Session…quite old….but their company greed stopped me from buy from them again!!!
On RC cars models there are some heatsink made out of aluminum and they have a fan build in and the are normally used to dissipate the heat from the ESC of the RC car, plane, boat, etc.... you can get them from Amazon or AliExpress.
I saw another video and this guy just place a magnet somewhere over the case of the camera and made the camera believe that the plastic case was placed on and it activates that middle range temp tolerance you mention, so the is a way to help the camera to cool down.
However we are talking about an action camera and if it is used as intended, then when you are in sports, in a bicycle, etc the wind should help to cool down.
I'm thinking on buy it, it is 12/10/22 and on Amazon the price just drop down to $239 and $269 with the power module and screen module....
I saw a few videos where people from europe showed that the high temp option is available for them too
Regarding the results of the dji - i wouldnt say that the 5 mins in 4K/120 are a dealbreaker, because when are you filming sequences that long while needing a framerate this high? Considering that the best price for the gopro is currently at 370€ and for the action 2 240€ (Germany), its even easier to let those flaws slip.
“Do some of that fighter pilot shit Mav!”
On it👍
Tbh, I'm not sure how you got that much recording time from the DJI Action 2. I tried filming with the Action 2 using 4k 120fps and I got around 3-ish close to 4 minutes of recording lol. The case was attached, and the firmware was up-to-date, so no idea. I tried turning it back on and I managed to squeeze in 2 more minutes before I couldn't record anything anymore. Sadly I returned it after that experience. :(
So normal 24fps does not overheat at all?
I'm surprised you didn't mention the fact that the GoPro image is so much sharper and cleaner looking than the DJI. That alone makes the GoPro the better buy. The DJI looked too soft
I just posted this same question, too bad about the overheat but the side by side comparison the GoPro colors were deeper whereas the DJI looked oversaturated and brighter and washed out.
Finally which one is tge best ? Tel me any one
I love how you're not afraid to critique these products.
Well here we are in 2024 in UK and I have a gopro 12 but just bought a dji action 2 the 128gb, the reason is just that I can use it in more scenarios in holiday with my kids but I can use other on my cycling rides too. I use it in a smallring cage when cycling so it os more protected and just normal case in holiday. So it can be mounted in more pmces easy like POV on my kids or on head of my kids.
I own both but use the DJI action 2 the majority of the time. I enjoy the image, the color and the rocksteady so much more. I also found the DJI case to be a benefit. I originally bought the smallrig case but quickly replaced it.
Can you tell me if DJI action 2 detects smallrig case also as a magnetic case and increases recording time, as the magnetic case from DJI is not available in india, please!!!
How do you find the heat modes? Sick stache…my guess is Top Gun Maverick. As for this video 🤯 my brain has exploded again.
As someone who lives in a tropical Country, these results got me really worried!
If 21~22ºC is a hot summer day in the US and the cameras overheat that quick, I think they would be unusable on a 30~36ºC day under sun!
21ºC is considered a chilly day here.
Yup that's tropical climate. Before you even hit record . The camerra will turn off
@@drfunkmaster Yeah! Exactly my thoughts! Dang
US user here - GoPro for me at this time
I've been filming in Orlando, Florida the last two weeks. No issue with over heating at all. Just hasn't happened to me. Longest video, 15 mins.
Sorry, but for me the Magnetic Case does not give any benefit in recording time at all. I live in Europe and I have only Standard Temperature mode. Action 2 Power Combo. Firmware: 01.03.30.20. I just did two indoor recording tests (temp 24° C) at 4K@120 and RockSteady stabilization:
WITH Magnetic Case + Power Module: 6 min 08 sec
WITHOUT Magnetic Case + Power Module: 6 min 09 sec
4K@60 WITH Magnetic Case + Power Module + RS stabilization: 8 min 38 sec
Any suggestions?
Thank you very much.
Action 2 all the way, you don’t have to use the bottom mag case so you can eliminate the falling out bit. Just my two cents. Great video
thanks for that info, that's actually important to note.
Who records long times in 4k 120fps? 🤷♂️
There's some fantastic deals for Action 2 with the screen module. I bought it new for £239 in UK.
How has yours been in terms of overheating? What resolution and frames do you usually record in?
Really wanna pull the trigger, but doing research first
the gopros quality was much better too
I think so too, but they're both pretty dope in their flat modes. In their natural color modes though, I think the GoPro looks way better👍