I'm not sure I would go through this much trouble mounting myself (although of course done extremely well!) but I have to say, I can't wait to see what footage you're able to use in future content!
Brutally hard glass for the lens in a easily swappable cover, a much less fussy bundle of cables (and longer leads) from the front camera, and some kind of built-in image stabilization would go a long way to improve this. How about some module where you simply pop in an SD card somewhere accessible that's not inside the camera devices?
Looks like maybe Innovv should have thought twice before sending you a unit to do a "how to install" video. Don't get me wrong, your video is excellent in overcoming the typical installation considerations. However, the company must have known that this is a challenge from their installation focus groups, right?
I think the front camera unit is so large because you can't get 4k video down any cable that is thin/flexible enough to be practical for installation. So the recorder needs to be next to the camera. I would share your concern about exposure to the elements.
6:10 ah, but what angle did you hold your measuring tape? The angle that the forks telescope is not that straight up and down, but rather diagonal. Thanks for the interesting video.
In the market for a Dashcam for the bike but this one would be hard to find mounting points. My handlebars are already full. And being a sports bike the nose mount given the unit size and the wiring harness would be next to impossible. Back to the research table.
You watch, Go Pro is going to learn from this and add a button. If you push the button it will save the last 60 seconds that just got videoed. Great video, great product. Not sure I could install it myself. Looking forward to lens protection on future models as I ride off road about 25% of the time.
I’m so glad you did this video. I’m currently struggling with my S1000 XR, which has a lot of vibration shaky video with the K5 mounted under the beak. I’m going to try it up on the GPS loop behind the windshield. Wish me luck…
Does the front camera not have to be the other way up? I've just purchased a K5 and very frustrated that the bracket fixing for the front camera is on the bottom of the camera.
Surely a camera from such a high end manufacturer designed to be outdoors is waterproof enough for full-rain use?! I might worry about one of the $100 ones, but at this price range I'd expect near perfection.
I checked with a Canadian supplier regarding the short wires off the DVR front cam and apparently INNOVV has addressed that and lengthened them to 3 meters(?) Maybe 3 feet I think. I have it ordered and will see what the change actually is!
I just got one, and it still has a short bundle coming off the front camera. I also don’t have bodywork all over my Scrambler, to run the wires behind, so I don’t think it’s going to work
@@ckeilah That's the same challenge I'm looking at when I look to put one of these on my Triumph Rocket 3. There isn't an area near the front of the bike to hide the unsightly and bulky connectors. It would be WAY more useful to have the wiring tails coming out of the front unit long enough to run them back all the way under the seat, and hide the connections there. It also looks like the video quality is low enough that you can't read a license plate. Is that what folks are seeing, too? If that is the case, this makes it somewhat less useful for a dash camera. Thanks, B
So I’m considering getting one of these cameras but here’s the question. So there I am doing about 95 and a 45. Nobody’s on the road I’m doing some hooligan shit for a brief moment then, as I slowly get into town, I slow down a little bit maybe 10 miles over at maximum then some wingnut watching TH-cam videos while driving cuts in front of me. I slow down but not enough, and I go down like a sack of potatoes, the fact that the camera shows me doing 95 prior to this incident wouldn’t that incriminate the hell out of me? Just curious to know your thoughts
Would have liked more info on the app. Given everything, I can see a case for having it on all the time for legal purposes, then deleting things with the app without accessing it otherwise. Thanks for the review and looking forward to the updates!
Image quality seems a little low for nearly $500, doesn't even catch license plates right next to the bike. Other than that it seems to work as advertised.
I have the previous version. And I think I like it better since I can pop the SD card in and out of the DVR console any time I want. It is much more accessible. High-quality item, I agree.
Wow, that seemed like a huge pain in the ass for little return. Also, Innovv, micro USB in 2021? Seriously? 🙄 That's an automatic no for me, regardless of how good it is.
Wait, wait....so you are telling me to press the button to save the clip. When you go down, or a car hits you. the last thing you or anyone will be thinking about a stupid button! Press the button , press the button, press the button and your hands are not holding the bars. LOL I'm not going to be taking my bike apart for this. Thanks but I just keep using my GoPro.
@@CanyonChasers It is insane the technology that goes in to these things. I just started really looking into the physics of motorcycling and it blows my mind. All thanks to your channel as well. And I will be doing Champ U at some point. Thanks for the plug.
Quality is actually very good, although not quite at GoPro level. So many things can be off, never judge from a single TH-cam clip. Camera install (vibrations), camera settings, editor export, TH-cam compression, your network and playback settings... But mount the camera as high as you can, or you get a lot of pavement and more dirt on the lens.
Sorry, I disagree with the "amazing footage" - and I know for a fact that as soon as you soak it, it will stop working. I really wish Innovv or Gopro made some more stabilized imagery, and work on it's size, I mean, does it work like a dashcam? Yes. I like that it has a button? Kind of - you can also just get one big card and always record everything... Is it more than, for example a pair of Garmin Dash Cam Minis? Other than the waterproof (and res)- which is not that good - no. I understand you will feel kind of obliged to not be harsh, but that way, don't expect your audience to trust your reviews. Note that this is my opinion, you are welcome to disagree :)
Great video review. Your moto videos are some of the best on TH-cam. Congrats. The K5 video quality looks good for security/emergency use but it's on the low side for making videos except as b-roll, e.g., poor stabilization. At that location, you definitely need a lens cover. It will get pelted with sand, bugs and debris. Alternatively, get a clear windshield and mount behind. This is what I do with my Insta360 One X2 (mounted off the triple-clamp and continuously powered via USB). It also provides a 360 view, albeit the rear one largely obscured by me. Here's a sample from doing some cartography on a local twisty. The placement has the advantage of getting the full instrument console (speed, lean angle, brake pressure, etc.) along with the full 360 front, side and rider views. th-cam.com/video/C53xAOJme0M/w-d-xo.html As for transferring video, I'm surprised that it doesn't have a sealing rubber cover for the USB and SSD access. Connecting a cable to the USB from your laptop would seem most convenient. Maybe you can fabricate something yourself that does this. i have a friend with a Multistrada and will forward this to him.
Yeah, I should have clarified that. It's good for security footage, but it's nowhere near the quality of a GoPro. My plan is only to use it for incidential little shots.
So you think I can't afford one silly person, why do you think VW took them over a large part was reliability, I've several mates had the 999 the were for ever braking down due to shit electrics
@@thoham60 that's not how it works.. the wires running back to the rear camera from the from box, would be the same as if they just ran a wire out to the front camera from a box placed in the middle of the bike.
That front camera looks like it belongs in the year 2005 when HD first came out. It is HUGE!
I'm not sure I would go through this much trouble mounting myself (although of course done extremely well!) but I have to say, I can't wait to see what footage you're able to use in future content!
Brutally hard glass for the lens in a easily swappable cover, a much less fussy bundle of cables (and longer leads) from the front camera, and some kind of built-in image stabilization would go a long way to improve this. How about some module where you simply pop in an SD card somewhere accessible that's not inside the camera devices?
Looks like maybe Innovv should have thought twice before sending you a unit to do a "how to install" video. Don't get me wrong, your video is excellent in overcoming the typical installation considerations. However, the company must have known that this is a challenge from their installation focus groups, right?
Innovv listened and they replaced the little screws, to access the SD card, with thumb screws.
I think the front camera unit is so large because you can't get 4k video down any cable that is thin/flexible enough to be practical for installation. So the recorder needs to be next to the camera. I would share your concern about exposure to the elements.
Great point!
Finally a new video! :*
I know, there a few subscriptions that I get excited about when they post. This is one.
Really tough to find space on my H2 SX to mount the K5 so might need to drop to the K3.
Any idea what I can put over the front camera lense to protect it?
I appreciate the 'How then fuck do I get this thing on here' process inclusion in the video. Way better than just seeing it done.
has there been a follow “long term” review of this setup ?
6:10 ah, but what angle did you hold your measuring tape? The angle that the forks telescope is not that straight up and down, but rather diagonal. Thanks for the interesting video.
In the market for a Dashcam for the bike but this one would be hard to find mounting points. My handlebars are already full. And being a sports bike the nose mount given the unit size and the wiring harness would be next to impossible. Back to the research table.
So, where is the long term review or comments? The website article has no updates since 2021. Thanks
Not much to report. It's still working. The lens is still very susceptable to damage. It hasn't died yet from getting wet.
You watch, Go Pro is going to learn from this and add a button. If you push the button it will save the last 60 seconds that just got videoed.
Great video, great product. Not sure I could install it myself. Looking forward to lens protection on future models as I ride off road about 25% of the time.
They have this feature in the 9
Is there a follow up video, i wonder how the camera performs 2 years later
It seems to be holding up quite well. It still works the same as it did when new.
I’m so glad you did this video. I’m currently struggling with my S1000 XR, which has a lot of vibration shaky video with the K5 mounted under the beak. I’m going to try it up on the GPS loop behind the windshield. Wish me luck…
Does the front camera not have to be the other way up? I've just purchased a K5 and very frustrated that the bracket fixing for the front camera is on the bottom of the camera.
I think you flip it in the settings in the app
Surely a camera from such a high end manufacturer designed to be outdoors is waterproof enough for full-rain use?! I might worry about one of the $100 ones, but at this price range I'd expect near perfection.
I checked with a Canadian supplier regarding the short wires off the DVR front cam and apparently INNOVV has addressed that and lengthened them to 3 meters(?) Maybe 3 feet I think.
I have it ordered and will see what the change actually is!
I just got one, and it still has a short bundle coming off the front camera. I also don’t have bodywork all over my Scrambler, to run the wires behind, so I don’t think it’s going to work
@@ckeilah That's the same challenge I'm looking at when I look to put one of these on my Triumph Rocket 3. There isn't an area near the front of the bike to hide the unsightly and bulky connectors. It would be WAY more useful to have the wiring tails coming out of the front unit long enough to run them back all the way under the seat, and hide the connections there. It also looks like the video quality is low enough that you can't read a license plate. Is that what folks are seeing, too? If that is the case, this makes it somewhat less useful for a dash camera. Thanks, B
How about a 6 month update and some footage to see quality? How is it in low light \ night?
It's doing great. I honestly haven't ridden at night yet now that you mention it.
So I’m considering getting one of these cameras but here’s the question. So there I am doing about 95 and a 45. Nobody’s on the road I’m doing some hooligan shit for a brief moment then, as I slowly get into town, I slow down a little bit maybe 10 miles over at maximum then some wingnut watching TH-cam videos while driving cuts in front of me. I slow down but not enough, and I go down like a sack of potatoes, the fact that the camera shows me doing 95 prior to this incident wouldn’t that incriminate the hell out of me?
Just curious to know your thoughts
Super video, I really must get something like this installed on my bike. 🤔 Ride safe 💙
Would have liked more info on the app. Given everything, I can see a case for having it on all the time for legal purposes, then deleting things with the app without accessing it otherwise. Thanks for the review and looking forward to the updates!
Image quality seems a little low for nearly $500, doesn't even catch license plates right next to the bike. Other than that it seems to work as advertised.
The TH-cam codec seemed to really strip the quality - it looks a lot better before YT processsing.
Footage honestly looks really bad, I hope it's just something with the TH-cam compression
I have the previous version. And I think I like it better since I can pop the SD card in and out of the DVR console any time I want. It is much more accessible. High-quality item, I agree.
Wow, that seemed like a huge pain in the ass for little return. Also, Innovv, micro USB in 2021? Seriously? 🙄 That's an automatic no for me, regardless of how good it is.
I've always thought about a product like this. I absolutely hate using my GoPro for the reason you stated.
I bought this and can't connect to android phone, dealer was able to connect to an Apple iPhone. Anyone help me out?
Thats strange - we did all of this on our Pixel 5
i think it would be easier to use gopro max
Wait, wait....so you are telling me to press the button to save the clip. When you go down, or a car hits you. the last thing you or anyone will be thinking about a stupid button! Press the button , press the button, press the button and your hands are not holding the bars. LOL I'm not going to be taking my bike apart for this. Thanks but I just keep using my GoPro.
It has an accelerometer so if it senses a jolt, it'll also protect the file.
Takeaway: Ducati knows more than you. lol
Most assuredly. I couldn't build a bike to win a MotoGP race no matter how hard I tried.
@@CanyonChasers It is insane the technology that goes in to these things. I just started really looking into the physics of motorcycling and it blows my mind. All thanks to your channel as well. And I will be doing Champ U at some point. Thanks for the plug.
That video quality looks bad. What about the viofo or the thinkware motorcycle dash cams. They are more expensive.
Quality is actually very good, although not quite at GoPro level. So many things can be off, never judge from a single TH-cam clip. Camera install (vibrations), camera settings, editor export, TH-cam compression, your network and playback settings...
But mount the camera as high as you can, or you get a lot of pavement and more dirt on the lens.
Sorry, I disagree with the "amazing footage" - and I know for a fact that as soon as you soak it, it will stop working.
I really wish Innovv or Gopro made some more stabilized imagery, and work on it's size, I mean, does it work like a dashcam? Yes. I like that it has a button? Kind of - you can also just get one big card and always record everything... Is it more than, for example a pair of Garmin Dash Cam Minis? Other than the waterproof (and res)- which is not that good - no.
I understand you will feel kind of obliged to not be harsh, but that way, don't expect your audience to trust your reviews.
Note that this is my opinion, you are welcome to disagree :)
Yeah, we've only been in light rain with it....
Doesn't GoPro have some pretty awesome image stabilization with the 9?
IMO, the GoPro is water tight, has stabilization, has a lens cover for protection. They don’t have the button.
@@brentfrank7012 oh yes they do... You have a remote you can purchase separate
Honest review
hahaha . You NEVER bottom out the suspension . In fact its impossible to get anywhere close .
Great video review. Your moto videos are some of the best on TH-cam. Congrats.
The K5 video quality looks good for security/emergency use but it's on the low side for making videos except as b-roll, e.g., poor stabilization.
At that location, you definitely need a lens cover. It will get pelted with sand, bugs and debris.
Alternatively, get a clear windshield and mount behind. This is what I do with my Insta360 One X2 (mounted off the triple-clamp and continuously powered via USB). It also provides a 360 view, albeit the rear one largely obscured by me. Here's a sample from doing some cartography on a local twisty. The placement has the advantage of getting the full instrument console (speed, lean angle, brake pressure, etc.) along with the full 360 front, side and rider views.
th-cam.com/video/C53xAOJme0M/w-d-xo.html
As for transferring video, I'm surprised that it doesn't have a sealing rubber cover for the USB and SSD access. Connecting a cable to the USB from your laptop would seem most convenient. Maybe you can fabricate something yourself that does this.
i have a friend with a Multistrada and will forward this to him.
Yeah, I should have clarified that. It's good for security footage, but it's nowhere near the quality of a GoPro. My plan is only to use it for incidential little shots.
video proof of why you hate farkles.
420 thumbs! 🤪
that's why we in the UK call them DUCRAPY
Because you can't afford one there crappy...
So you think I can't afford one silly person, why do you think VW took them over a large part was reliability, I've several mates had the 999 the were for ever braking down due to shit electrics
It's a shame the camera isn't smaller with a brain box that can be mounted under the seat.
The K2 & K3 is exactly that, which is super strange why they went with this idea for their top of the line system. Seems like a step back...
Agree
@@onesimpleclik Technical reason, the 4K camera pushes so much data.
@@thoham60 that's not how it works.. the wires running back to the rear camera from the from box, would be the same as if they just ran a wire out to the front camera from a box placed in the middle of the bike.
@@onesimpleclik Well, that is the reason I got from their CEO.
I wonder how it would handle wet dirty Irish roads. I like that it's hidden. Last thing you want is a cop taking it and using it against you..
Not in the USA 🇺🇸