Saints Row the Third on Switch: A Portable Success or Failure? + Bonus Ray Tracing on PC!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 17 ต.ค. 2024
- Saints Row The Third arrives on Nintendo Switch and the results are not exactly "Johnny Gat Approved". John and Rich dive into the game to check out performance across all modes while stacking it up against PlayStation 3. They also quickly check out the game running on PC utilizing the screen-space Path Tracer! Check it out.
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So for those wondering about the patch, I've been playing the game on v1.5.0. The game now has dynamic resolution. It apparently scales as low as 720p docked and 480p handheld according to patch notes and can be toggled on or off. The input latency seems non existent as far as I can see and it holds a decent frame rate. Not perfect but not noticeably bad either. Worth picking up now in my opinion.
480p on Switch can be considered as good. Doom and Wolfenstein drops to 360p frequently. I saw that one on 55 inch 4K TV and it is very blurry.
Edit: and all of these sacrifices just to maintain 30 FPS.
@@UltimateAlgorithm
Not very well optimized obviously. But as of now it is the closest and best GTA-type experience on the Switch.
@@MrEvol94 SR3, or Doomstein? Doomstein are incredibly well-optimised by Panic Button to deliver a stable 30fps on Switch, even when undocked.
@@frankie_is_broke5591 i don’t think the engine in general is very unoptimised, Panic Button certainly tried but it still runs badly and looks not great. Doom is *okay*, but Wolfenstein is really super blurry. It really looks like BJ forgot to bring his glasses and he has eyesight like mine, it’s so blurry it doesn’t look good to look at all. What’s the point in having all the graphical effects as PS4 if it runs at 20fps at 360p and the TAA is so overdone that you can’t even tell what you’re looking at sometimes. I don’t think they’re that well optimised and I think they should’ve prioritised reducing blur, I genuinely couldn’t play that version for long because it’s so blurry.
@Just Another TH-cam Channel I also am not a fan of the blur, and would rather do without AA entirely, but I've found DOOM ETERNAL to be very stable (at least on UV).
I've not played Wolfenstein myself, but to my knowledge it didn't run stably on PS4/XBONE to begin with, possibly because Machine Games are less experienced with idtech than id themselves. That did give PanicButton an impossible task and led to insane blur and sub-30 performance.
Ultimately, I still say the Switch versions are incredibly well-optimised, considering what they achieve on the Switch hardware, off battery power (when undocked) no less.
6:00 nothing to see here
Just an npc standing on top of a car
Welcome to Saints Row AI, it only gets funnier.
was about to point that out, but you were faster xd
I actually understood that reference, RIP.
WOW Digital Foundry freakin planned that distraction. Turning into an episode of Brain Games here 🤣
its a bad glitch with this version, that happens so often
Please re-do this when the patch launches, I really want to get the game but only if the patch fixes the framerate problems, thanks a lot.
They said that they won't on Resetera
PC is the best way. I got 2-4 and Gat Outta Hell on Steam, then got them free thru GOG because I bought them on Steam (limited time deal, don't think you can do that now). But, if you buy them on GOG, they are DRM free and you can make back-ups and install on any PC in the house. Only SR2 is a bad port; gotta lock that game down to 30fps for best experience.
@@MunkeyChips I have the game on PC, and I love it, but having it on Portable for me is huge, I love this game and I'd love to play it at the bus and such, the only problem I have is that I need to know if the patch really fixes the problem or not before speding the money, as I cant buy any other game until 2 or 3 months from now, and if they fix it, damn, I'll buy it instantly.
@@MunkeyChips Thanks for your pointless input.
@@TechHug thank you for your pointless answer.
This port could really use the "Panic Button" treatment right about now
Yeah, I don't get why more games aren't being sent over their way for a mobile port. They really seem to have a grasp on it
Maybe they are just too expensive now that they have a reputation. Panic button could’ve made this game run well I bet.
@@StinkyOtter Honestly, I just assume they are at full capacity at this point. I'm sure they are working on a boatload of games as it is.
@@TakumiJoyconBoyz yeah that's what I'd say. I wouldn't imagine they're 'too expensive' whatsoever, because they WANT to make a name for themselves. They're probably just busy.
They lately only love FPS games. I would love to play other things like Metal Gear Solid 1-4/5
It's a shame the Switch version sucks. Have you guys checked out the 360 version running on Xbox One via backward compatibility? Was kinda hoping to see a comparison from you.
Yeah, I was just thinking of that. One X might be able to alleviate some of these problems.
There was supposed to be a day one patch coming to this version, but it's been delayed by a week.
@Nathan Miller switch has just become an "on the go" novelty at this point these terrible ports are just cash grabs but because it's Nintendo doing it nobody batters an eyelid.
@Nathan Miller so what if it hasn't been patched. I'm sick of this excuse. If I buy something today, I want it to work now, not in a week or however long. Delay the release of your game if the critical patch apparently is so good it can make the game run 100% faster.
Don't support shoddy ports like this just to have them on the go. Support devs who actually care and give you a good product first and make it even better with patches and updates later.
@@stolenname94 most of the ports to the switch are not as bad as this one.
I can count the frames on my hand.
You have 30 fingers?
poor little switch..biting off more than it can chew
@@spookyghost7524 More like poor little Deep Silver, Wolfenstein and Doom ran and look better
@@spookyghost7524 bad port! Look at Doom, Wolfenstein, Rocket League, Warframe! Hell even MK11. Honestly all Switch ports should be handled by, Panic Button!
@@Ryan-xn3mt doom and wolfenstein didn't look or run well lmao yall Nintendo fans gotta have higher standards. MK11 looks amazing tho
The fact that they use a very memory-fillrate intensive technique such as Inferred-Deferred rendering just amplifies my confusion to why they didn't use dynamic resolution. With such a rendering setup it's one of the most crucial things that you can do. Rendering performance doesn't consist of just shaders and polys, it's ((number of polys * vertex shader complexity) + (all the pixels * hardware native instructions) + (processed pixels * fragment shader complexity) + amount of pixels written to the buffers). Again, judging by the hardware and the technique, I imagine it was the latter part of the equation that got them hard.
Kolyasisan ur comment looked complicated so here’s a like 👍
Most likely old engine does not support dynamic resolution.
Nobody:
DF: We just raytraced this photograph of a shirtless Gabe Newell.
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Nobody:
Kid with expandable time: Here's an unrelated meme
You're a magician! They've just released a video of ray traced HL2
Many have mentioned it, but this really needs a "hey, here's an analysis after patching", the game got hit REALLY hard on launch and nobody really followed up on how much the updates fixed or broke.
Just bought the game last week and I love it
@@The2FGgang It is better now?
is it better*
@@ivand5699 I don’t know how it was before but I’ve been having fun with it
>Deep Silver Fish Labs
Wow that's a name I haven't heard in a while
Still doesn't look as bad as WWE 2K18 on Switch 😂
Wwe 2k18 on ps4 was just as garbage i hated it.
I would say this is worst than both WWE 2K18 and Ark. WWE 2K18, i'll let slide since that released only a couple of months after the Switch was released, so the development time was extremely short, and they had to meet the launch date no matter what cause it sport games. Ark doesn't even run well on Xbox One X or the Pro. This had enough development time, the developer could easily delay the release cause they didn't have any time frame to hit, and they had a last gen release that they could use as a base
Its playable imo. Pick it up on a sale . Im enjoying it but of course im not comparing it the better pc version. I haven't played it in a while and wanted a reason to go back to it. So this pretty much fills that void. Haven't tried the online coop yet but I'm sure itll be laggy
@Ioannis Stf I agree with you but wwe 2k18 is a bad game on the ps4 because of the gameplay. I hated the slow simulation style gameplay the arcadey gameplay from the ps2 wwe games were much more fun overall.
John James Rambo so many? Do you even own a switch bro?
"One step up from ARK"
Ouch talk about damning with faint praise
vaugna16 The hyperbole and pile-on with this port is ridiculous. It’s absolutely nothing close to the state of ARK on Switch.
Well, regardless of how the Switch version performs, this is still a market that Rockstar is missing out on by not releasing the 3D-Era Grand Theft Autos on the Switch.
This didn't age well, I'm from the future and the 3d ports were horrible
Well the game is $9.99 on Steam for The Full Package, includes all DLC. If you look at the min/max system requirements it can literally run on your grandma's Emachine. A portable Saints Row for $40? No thanks.
No just pirate it dummy
Who gives a shit about this game anymore anyways?
@Kuma Wilson GTX 1050 here, quit lying.
Yea its easy to run now, I think these guys had better than average systems back in the day because when it came out it wasn't a light game to run, people complained about performance issues, poorly threaded and the rest.
Plus mods, too. Not many, but they're worth having.
Performance patch coming Thursday apparently. Fingers Crossed.
I'm honestly disappointed it launched in the state it's in right now.
@@Mr.GameCrazy Me too. Shit isn't cheap, especially on Switch.
What you mean "especially on the Switch"? Developers have said the development on the Switch is as easy like on a PC
@@paradoxzee6834 I was talking about shit not being cheap, especially on the Switch where the price is hiked on nearly every port..
@@paradoxzee6834 switch tax. Pretty much every game ported to switch is more expensive than other platforms. Resident evil is an example where on switch they will be $30 games but other platforms get em for $20. Doom $60, Skyrim $60 etc etc lots of examples out there. Pretty much recommended to only get switch ports on sale
21 fps when sky diving at night. Imagine riding a helicopter at morning where shadows are present + lighting. Hmmmm.
Boy I sure do love paying full price for these lesser ports of 2011 games. Thanks, third party devs!
Dankglas Quaid it’s not full price but point still stands
This isn't full price you moron lol
Rather pay 35 for this than 60 for a 2d Nintendo game with zero online co OP despite it having split screen
Well its not full price but you still pay (or through them in the wc) something for this shitty game port
@@HugoStiglitz88 im just curious, what 2d nintendo game are you talking about? I would have assumed NSMBU port, but that doesnt have split screen
You should thank Nintendo for creating this hybrid piece of garbage, that's EXACTLY the same game that's on the 360/PS3.
As a community can we all go on our respective social media platforms and tag THQNordic. I’m aware a patch is coming, but releasing half made games (or in this case games that weren’t tested properly) is unacceptable for any and all developers and they need to feel this. Imagine going to a restaurant and they don’t cook your food all the way before serving you...
Thank you DF for giving a logistic frame of reference for our plight.
Thq Nordic not thq
I have to wonder if this game was QA'd at all.
Your plight is buying a 40 dollar port of an 8 year old game that doesn’t even run at a stable 30fps.
Don’t buy these ports that are ass while saying, “Well it’s portable so idc” and nobody will think they can get away with ports like these. Problem is they sell so well because switch owners are incredibly needy for new big experiences right now.
I’m actually having fun with this game on the switch brings me back to the 360 days
Why are you guys the only channel that have meaningful things to say in your videos ...all the others just have unnecessary babble for filler....
British
98% of this video is pointless rambling.
Like spawnwave
Peter Chestnut Yeah, really not liking the new format, waste of time.
Interesting finding on the similarity performance curve between switch and PS3.
May I ask, is this game leveraging the multicore processor ? Or is it using only one thread at most of the time?
This is a straight port of the same messy ps360 version. Bad job, deepsilver
Bad job ??look at the tablet based CPU/GPU says bad job lmfao
>game runs bad on PS4/xone
lol weakass consoles
>Game runs bad on switch
it's the devs fault!!!
Bad job, fanboy
Bad job, it is. They cant do shit, like Panic Button or Ninja Theory
shadowjfd Deepsilver is the publisher, right?
@Anti Nintendrone And that's only a problem because this is a straight up port with minimal modifications. The port doesn't make any use of the Switch's advantages, but has all of the disadvantages.
As simple as this game was, it sure was a hell of alot of fun to play compared to most games today.
What a shame, was looking forward to this port. I hope they can fix these issues.
Why didn’t you test the game running via backwards compatibility on an Xbox One X? Would be interesting to see if it can hit 60fps on the X since it has an unlocked framerate.
The Switch has 8 times more ram and a GPU that is 2 to 3 times more powerful than what's on the 360/PS3 yet it performs at around the same level or worse.... :/
This seems more like an optimization issue than a hardware one.
I love switch but it's not 3 times not powerful than last gen.
@@KatanaRikku The Switch uses a slightly down clocked nVidia Tegra X1 which has between 500 to 750 gigaflops of floating point performance (number crunching). The PS3 and 360 have around 225 to 250 gigaflops of performance. If you do the math the Switch has anywhere between 2 to 3 times more GPU performance than last gen.
@@03chrisv no switch has 393gflop stop to told shit.
256 shader x2 x 768mhz=393gflop
@@03chrisv even a tegra x1 has only 500gflop on fp32 at 1ghz . Switch is only clocked at 768mhz . 768mhz x256 shader x2 =393gflop
Switch/Xbox/Ps4 gets a decently running game
DF Comment Section: " Huh, I guess this is pretty impressive."
Switch/Xbox/Ps4 gets poorly optimized game
DF Comment Section: "See I told ya it was too weak to handle it!!!! You Nintenbabies/Xbots/Sonyponies are getting scammed! My favorite black plastic box is the superior way to play games!!!"
I'm playing on a metal box with tempered glass on one of its side. Definitely not playing on a plastic box. I do have one, but that mostly used for other family members.
Very nicely done analysis.
Yeah, the Switch framerate is... janky as all hell, but not really that different than the 7th gen versions aside from volatility during action. Main problem is the input lag, as you said. From what I could tell, it did seem to be a big dead zone issue combined with an odd accelleration. As in, you tilt the stick and it does start moving right away, but it's doing so incredibly slow to where it's practically staying still anyway, then about a half second later it kicks in and speeds up to reasonable rates.. but by then, it's been a half second and dear fucking god that is a long time to wait for your gun to aim in a firefight. Even if you get used to it, it's terribly awkward.
I'd love motion controls implemented into this game for that reason alone, but honestly that would just be a crutch in it's current state. Fixing the stick controls should be paramount, before giving me the option to gyro aim.
Has anyone checked to see how SR3 runs on the Xbox One X? I wonder if the increased horsepower smoothes out the performance issues.
It does got like 50-60
This game has still big performance issues on PC.
@@ehs03y3ol No it doesnt. Both my kinda unstable laptop and desktop run the game at 60+ fps consistently.
I think you need really to revisit the game...
@@ehs03y3ol I dont have it installed currently but I did a playthrough ofnit a few months back and my only framedrops were engine related and didnt have to do with optimization. Are you talking about Saints Row 2 which definitely has priblems on PC?
At 5:58 " They see me rollin'
They hatin, Patrolling and tryin to catch me ridin dirty trying to catch me riding dirty" xD
I have this on Xbox one x and with the open frame rate it runs amazingly well
Sad showing for the Switch hardware. A laptop and a $5 PC copy looks like a much better experience
Got it day 1, honestly impressed with it. Doesn't run as bad as what people are saying. I got it for mindless fun on the go, it delivers that in spades
That's how alot of games are people expect it to be PC performance or ps4 or 5 u have to take it in as this is a system equivalent to ps3 and Xbox 360
Glad I waited for this review. Just want to say you guys help a lot of us on the daily with videos like this. Thank you!
Masters at charging $39.99 for this fantastic port.
5:57 npc waking up on a car
LOL that's a new feature for the Switch version
A quick cash grab port that is absolutely awful. Easy pass
Pretty much the switch for ya it's just a novelty now for bad ports
@@stolenname94 Well most games that are ported that I purchase are great. Like Wolfenstein 2 and Doom 2016 being notable highlights. I enjoy my Switch immensely. It's just lazy developers looking to make a quick buck re-releasing an old game
@@stolenname94 No it isn't. There's plenty of good multiplats.
@@MetroidFREAK21 What are you talking about? Wolfenstein 2 and Doom run awful on the system.
@jvalex18 Yeah.. having frame rate drops, bad frame pacing, and poor visuals. Clearly the game doesn't run awful.
Yo you didn't invite my boi the Xbox One to the party. Considering it runs with an unlocked frame rate I'm REALLY curious...
It's CRAZY that even Digital Foundry are afraid to show a LEGALLY purchased game running on a LEGALLY purchased Switch and LEGALLY showing gameplay on said Switch after it was LEGALLY exploited to run a homebrew application to improve the LEGALLY purchased game.
Nintendo are the absolute worst when it comes to abusing TH-cam's takedown policies. Please DF, you should directly confront them about their misuse of the platform, they will actually be forced to answer your query, because of your industry reputation.
Actually, their overclocked switch was tested in portable mode and they can't show gameplay from it because it doesn't have the direct feed modification. Nothing to do with nintendo. Nintendo would have been ticked off just by claiming they had hacked their switch if they were actually doing that.
Will you be doing an updated video to check out the new dynamic resolution patch for the game?
SR was always a mess engine wise... But, was a fun game though. Evey good has a bad, high res = more issues on Switch.
That's going to be an interesting pre-patch/post-patch comparison if we get one. This really looks like a case where they underestimated the amount of work needed to get the game running properly and got hit by a deadline before they were done.
That patch is gonna be 10gb with all the shit they have to fix. Such a bummer this was my favorite game last gen was hoping to play this in handheld mode.
They said it was 110 mb but who knows it might be bigger since it was delayed.
It'd only be 10gb if they were redoing every object in the game. They'll probably just dial back graphics even further and add some clever rendering tricks
@TechnicalTortuga
>it uses UE
nvm, 10gb it is
Is this the remastered edition? Has this been patched? Planning to buy this on Switch but having second thoughts on getting the PS4 version instead.
its been patched. Runs fine now.
@@calebb7012 thanks. I did bought the PS4 version but I’ll get this on Switch soon for portability.
Patch on the way after the money rolls in is a Classic dev move. Do they even play the game or just port and ship it
Damn, that ReShade mod looks really impressive given the original graphics of this game.
Makes me wonder just how many other games from this era can be 'resurrected' so-to-speak.
Try it on bioshock. It's freaking amazing.
Ray Tracing for any game: EXISTS
Digital Foundry: LET'S SEE WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE
glox023 if Skyrim ever comes out on mobiles and they do a comparison we might get a ray tracing video from them too
Game has gotten a lot better now
This looks like a Straight Port from Xbox 360/PS3 to Nintendo Switch but would have better if were Remastered
Well to be fair; this is how most straight ports would run on Switch.
Switch is not much more powerful than PS3, so...
@@paulclinton6414 Nintendo Switch GPU can do 1 Teraflop vs PlayStation 3 GPU - 192 GFLOPS you must be dropped as a Child or just plain Stupid the only thing that made PS3 Powerful was Cell Processor but it had only 512mb ram vs Nintendo Switch 4GB ram...
@@real_Pinoy
So Switch should run everything far far FAR better than anything on PS3 and yet across all more or less straight ports - like the game above - we see this. Crap performance no visual improvements (outside of resolution bumps and sometimes improved texture filtering) with worse performance and/or input lag.
Makes me wonder how "Red Faction: Guerrilla ReMarstered" will run on Switch and it is coming out this year! Granted it will be the pruned version that likely runs more efficiently on Mobile hardware but only time will tell how well this game will turn out.
Resolution is better on Switch this is the only constant and that constant is to be expected as mobile GPUs have far better fillrate than PS3 or Xbox 360 hardware. Of course mobile phones have screens that are higher resolution than most people's living room television set... So go figure why such high fillrates are required.
@@VariantAEC Lazy Developers make Horrible games but look at Panic Button Developers they got PlayStation 4 games to work on the Nintendo Switch
Deep Silver gave us a patch that helps with the framerate. It’s, not PC/PS4 Pro/Xbox One X framerate quality, but its years better compared to the week 1 release. You will see a few drops here and there from tons of activity on the screen, but it doesn’t impact the overall gameplay. I’m satisfied 😎
this looks like 60 fps after playing xenoblade 2 for 400 hours
xenoblade 2 never hits framerate lower that 23 fps and for most of the game it stays at 30, the problem with it is that the resolution can tank real bad from time to time.
The patch added gyro controls framerates seems passable to me at least. Honestly I love it.
The real question is when will LICHDOM BATTLEMAGE will make it to Switch?
Holy shit that's a title that had completely exited my mind
Guys, please never stop making videos. Truly one of the very few real gaming channels. No shenanigans, political correctness crap, celebrity crap, or anything remotely political or gossipy. Just real, honest content. I'm almost 40 and it gets harder by the day to find mature and serious content labeled as "gaming". Also, John, how about a DF Retro for the different ports/remakes of Chrono Trigger or Final Fantasy during the PS1 era?
I love this game, very well optimized on PC. And the best saints row to date, the saints row 4 you're a superhero so it is boring.
Yeah, SR4 was very boring and it shows that it was originally a DLC for SR3. They just took SR3 and slapped PROTOTYPE movement and Crackdown orb collecting, wasn't very good.
SR4 was great.
Saints Row 2 is the best but it's still a fucking mess on PC even with the fan-patches
Such a shame, I remember playing it on my notebook back when it came out, and I still have that now 9 year old notebook and the game still runs better on it than on consoles.
It is kinda sad, it's not the Switch being weak but the game being a mess on consoles, nowdays even a simple GTX 1050 can handle this game easy at max settings 60fps 1080p.
Maybe they never made the game with consoles in mind but I expected at least 30fps on the Switch.
But no it's a mess and that's sad, I'm fine with minor framedrops but this is unacceptable.
Thx for the video DF
Thanks for this, I'll save my money for now.
OK. Last Update changed alot. It's almost perfect playable now. Not even a delay in aiming. Toggleable dynamic resolution, grafic glitches from the update before are also gone. Now a new Video would make sense. @Digital_Foundry
The game is the perfect Portable GTA clone now.
That portable GDPC Win computer thingy could run this at better visuals AND performance, lol.
GPD Win 2? It runs about the same. Maybe a bit worse. But I bet the GPD Max will run it pretty well
You do understand what is being said in the video? The issue is with the engine and the port job. If a game is badly ported, you'll get horrible performance and issues even in s high end pc. Furthermore, the gpd's are way more expensive, hardly a reasonable comparison
glad to see the original Console release of the game. That was the time when everyone though PS3/360 era was going on too long without an upgrade
Man what a mess. I really wanted to get this game. We'll see if Thursday's patch changes much. If it doesn't, look at the bright side: the experience is exactly like you remember it on the PS360 😂
There’s a patch coming out fixing all this on Thursday. Please re do this when that happens.
I would like to request that you guys please do another performance test video after the patch is implemented later this week. I am curious to see how much it is going to optimize the game.
My issue isn’t with the frame rate at all actually. Not sure about anyone else, but some menus actually break the controls. The rim jobs screen soft locked the game for me.
In the past you guys waited for patches in other systems, odd choice to review the game with an patch do deploy this week
Raging Mages they reviewed days gone right before 7 patches came out so shut the fuck up
If they can suddenly patch it and fix it, then why release it broken? No excuse
never had any major issues on my ps3 version of this game.. it was a great game that ran fine with only a few minor bugs here and there that didn't usually affect the game.. the minor issues would only effect you if you were a major snob because it was such a fun game that most of us weren't affected by whatever shortcomings it might have had on ps3 (plus the ps3 version looks better then they show in the video)
If Dragons Dogma runs can run fantastic on the Switch based of DF’s review then there’s no excuse for this to perform so poorly...
But that game runs at 900p and not 1080p, that's why it runs a little bit better than this.
Fabricio Vega then they should make it run at 900p
To be honest i didnt really find this game a bad experience in the switch, i think it is a fantastic port for the switch, there were some framerate issues but nothing unplayable and it fixed itself quickly, i only found one glitch where i clipped outside of the map but shortly after i was teleported back into the map but other than that its a great port for the switch
Saints Row: The Turd.
This is just the game running on low settings on my old lappy
Back on release time I could pull 1080p60 with 4X MSAA out of an overclocked 570... holy hell, the console gamers got shafted pretty badly back then :/
What amazes me is how long last generation lasted till a new generation...8 years. I appreciate the mid generation refreshes this generation. I look forward to a Switch Pro and Mini XL announcement soon.
Well i having a great time with sr3 i hope we get saints row 1/2/4 and gooh on the switch
Roadhouse
Saints Row 1 & 2 on Switch would be amazing. SR2 is still my favourite of the series.
G R H
Doubt you’ll get 4. That game ran terribly on last gen
Does the game run any better in docked if you change the output resolution to 720p in the switch settings?
theyre just porting games to switch without optimizing since switch is such a hungry market you can sell anything in it
Well, not just that but the Switch still need more optimizing itself and lots of more updates to improve game performance and stability.
Saints Row the Turd
I have this game on PC. Barely played it tho. I'm actually curious to see how it performs on my i7-4790, gtx 970, and g-sync. Back then, when I played it, my rig wasn't very good so I skipped out on SR3. Great vid, DF. I listened to the video on my way to work.
Wow my freakin Ps3 that's from 2006, can throw down with a Switch in 2019. I got scammed
@jvalex18 - I don't know about "much", it's probably about a Wii-U 1.5 when it comes to performance, certainly more powerful than the PS3/360 GPU wise in a lot of ways, but as they say in this video, the CPU/GPU/Memory setup in the Switch is very different from the PS3/360, better in many ways, worse in others, so a game designed for the PS3/360 isn't going to run well on the Switch (for example if a game uses the SPEs in the CELL CPU on the PS3 a lot, they would have to modify that code to use the shaders in the Maxwell APU on the Tegra instead) if they don't modify their code.
Much no, slightly yes.
@jvalex18 "great" is subjective, SR3 runs fucking beautifully and was a great port on PC. its more likely that the port was just either low in time or budget. Here's a thought, Switch can run BoTW, its launch title, only at 30fps at 900p docked, so obviously its still not great in terms of raw power, while the PS3/X360 was top tier shit when it came out.
One problem I have with the port, which is related to the controls, moving your character with diagnals with the left stick the character isn't moving at full speed, which is odd because it doesn't allow you to Sprint unless you move the stick in a straight direction, if you're moving with the stick in a diagnal direction try sprinting, I feel like I'm the only one who feels like I noticed it, and yes I went back to the original release to see if I'm just going crazy, but no, something is definitely up with the switch version when it comes to that, slightly annoying.
Its crazy that Nintendo fans are paying $40 for a low effort port of a game that came out in 2011. I got the game on Steam for $5 and that was 5 years ago, these low effort Switch ports are such a scam.
True. Well, as long as there are buyers...
But it’s portable.....that’s worth $35 more, lol
nobody is paying for this
@@benjinatorkahki-1858
What are you talking about I own Skyrim on the Switch, I play it in portable mode and it is a rock solid 30fps no drops
p O r T a B L e
well, I would be be really happy if I get to play it on the switch. It would be a lot better than running the game with 10 fps on my pc.
Still a great game tho. If Performance patch releases as THQ Promised, It will be Greater
U sure about that? Saints Row IV is much much better
@@humblegrind8 I'm sure about it, That ain't Gang war type of game
Good video DF. Saints Row 3 on the Switch is put on the back burner and I will pick it up down the road when it's much cheaper.
Public Service Announcement for the day is.......
Just because it says REMASTERED doesn't mean it is. Wait to buy EVERY game now a days. I've saved money recently
I don’t think it actually says that on the box.😓
From the moment this was announced, my instincts shouted “cheap port to capitalize on the Switch money train,” even though there was no sure sign of it at the time. It just had that stink to it.
The switch is a hardware scam shut up please
@@dranzer2545 Loser.
I've been playing in portable mode and I really didn't notice it being that badd
Hugo Stiglitz It’s primarily docked mode that has the most severe frame drops
Its hard to imagine patches could really make a dramatic change since it seems like it really is the engine itself that's the problem.
It's crazy cause switch can do way better then this..poor optimization
Arnez Juggins Sure, it was optimization. Nothing to do with the shit hardware they need to squeeze this thing into.
@@shadowskill111 the Switch is more powerful than the last gen systems. This is a case of poor optimization, there are plenty of games that are more resource heavy and graphically better that look/run great on the switch.
@@nherron128 dude, don't bother with him.
@@shadowskill111 dude, switch can run a massive open world zone Zelda Breath of the Wild with no loading screens through it unless you're fast traveling. It can run the numerous sandbox zones within Xenoblade 2. It can run an massive open world zone in Warfame an action MMO jumping all around the place with smooth frame. Switch running a tiny sandbox game by today's standards of a last gen is doable. Port devs like many others still don't know how to properly utilize the switch dev kit still.
Nicholas Herron It’s a combination of both. Could the game be better optimized to run on the Dwitches meager hardware? Sure, probably. The core problem is that a Switch is about 1.25x XBox 360 but had other technical issues preventing it from running a game like this properly. You could point at other games like Zelda or Xenoblade to attempt to eye ball out a direct comparison but you would be wrong. Those games are bad on draw distance, Dynamic AI interactions, physics, etc which chew up compute resources.
Regardless of how much trash this port is getting, I'm enjoying the hell out of it -- the fact that there's a Saint's Row game on handheld is scratching the GTA itch I've wanted for a long time. Performance issues be damned, it's still a great game.
Levi Harris thank you!! I am enjoying the hell out of this. I didn’t have a 360 or PS3, and never played this game before. I play it solely handheld, and am satisfied. The patch will only improve it.
Can't be any worse than WWE 2K18, can it?
they release the patch and oh god it feels much better.
Can you guys pls do a DF RETRO on DOOM 3
Buggy Saints Row never gets old. I still have all those tracks (including the deleted ones) in my MP3 collection. Aw, yeah.
This is pretty disappointing. Was kinda curious about picking this up for the Switch, glad I dodged that bullet.
I was kinda hoping you guys would've included a quick Xbox One BC analysis in the video as well.
i love all five Saints Row games.
I love the humor of 3, 4 and GOOH. But I also love the more serious tone of 1 and 2.
Why hasnt it been remastered for xboxone and ps4?
Couse it's gonna have the same performance problems... It's a CPU speed threat problem, it also happends on PC...
I dont think so it obviously can be done easily.
@@MrSammersELsoho Try it on FX-8350 and tell me... the core-RAM performance of PS4/XBOX is similar of a FX-8350 with 4 cores at half-speed...
I really appreciated seeing this video in my feed; Great that the team was able to cover this port. I've poured a few hours into it and I'm glad to hear I'm not awful at aiming, the accelerated effect is what's awful. There's also a consistently annoying bug with audio syncing... The patch is expected arrive this Wednesday or Thursday, focusing on the audio, performance and loading times.
So far for me: no corrupted saves, music tracks are all here, and I'm finally able to rampage through Steelport on my toilet without lugging around my Dell. Honestly can't recommend it as a product, but as a gimmick I think for anyone who hasn't played the game before, not a bad place to start if you don't have a PC or are looking to fill your switch library.
I would pick this up for $20 to have an open-world game on the Switch, but considering I got it in a bundle on PC for a pittance some time ago, not paying full retail price for a buggy port.
Wow a game from 2011 how exciting. At this point the switch’s library is 70% old ports, 20% indie games no one has heard of and 10% exclusives and I say that as a switch owner.
So true
I bought Switch version and only playing on handheld mode so far. Graphically it’s not totally smooth. Hopefully the future patch could improve a lot. I also watch the traffic gone stupid for more than 30 mintues and created more car crashed. So much fun!
Info that the YT Switch shills will never bring up. Good video.
Muh portability
Same as MK11. Lol
B-BUT I CAN PLAY WHILE SHITTING!!
Both of the PS3/360 games were running on BIG ENDIAN CPUs with high clock speeds. This is what happens when you use LITTLE ENDIAN mobile APUS with a low clock speed to try and run the same game.