BioShock The Collection on Switch - A Remaster That Works - All Games Tested
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- Every game tested. Nintendo Switch handles all three BioShock games superbly, using a dynamic 1080p resolution to allow for a typically 30fps level of performance. Comparisons with Xbox One X also show it using the updates settings - including improved FOV - giving it an advantage over the last-gen originals.
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Df is so great. This is the kind of info I want to know when making an educated purchase on a port.
They're always trying to be objective, too. Separating their personal biases from straightforward reporting and informing. Love to see it
Best gaming performance and tech deep-dive channel on youtube! By far
@@kylerclarke2689 Very true! In their vids they may come off as critical of the Switch when reviewing games/ports for it, but it is very objective and they should be judging it this way since it gives you the most fair and true overview. But truthfully they don't dislike the system at all, but they don't hesitate to point out its shortcomings, which is very convenient (I mean they occasionally do for PS4 and Xbox One as well).
@@Msf1011 They are not allowed to say this is the worst version since its 30fps and looks the worst so don't bother with it..Unfortunately.
@@fourlights
I mean PlayStation "gave away" copies a few months ago with PlayStation plus it may not be the best version but it is technically free.
i'm really surprised they went with the remastered version as a base. and it seems like the performance still holds up very well
Not a big surprise. They did the same for Borderlands as these are not very demanding games.
All three run beautifully in both docked and handheld.
All of 'em are Unreal Engine, so they work similarly fine. Also, Eddy! Edd here, since childhood. Always.
The remastered versions barely look any better than the base games to begin with.
@@DriveCancelDC depends. Have you been playing on PC? Then maybe yes. On Switch however you really notice the boost in resolution and the more stable performance
Impressed with this port, interested to see if you guys will cover the Borderlands ports also
The gyro aiming in Borderlands 2 is soooo good. I went from that to Bioshock and gave up playing it due to a lack of gyro aiming. It's great in BL2.
This port looks like a blurry mess
@@halahmilksheikh gonna guess you're watching this in 144p? Maybe move somewhere with faster dialup?
@@halahmilksheikh sickass low end android phone u got there
@Galva Tron WIth that in mind, I wonder if Activision would consider bringing over the remastered CoD games (MW, MW2 Campaign Remastered) even if they don't bother with current gen games. A better handheld experience than the Vita CoD game would be quite nice.
Switch ports are a gold mine for publishers after all (plenty of double dippers). Full priced late ports don't seem to phase buyers. Same would go for GTA V excluding GTA Online (though that may be the primary reason why Rockstar hasn't bothered with it).
I'll definitely be picking this. Portable Bioshock, yes please! I'd love to see the Return to Arkham collection on Switch too. Make it happen Rocksteady, please! 🙏
Oooh I would love that.
2 years late, but still hoping for this!
Your wish has been granted 🙏 Quite a few years later but I suppose better late than never. Whole Arkham trilogy coming to Switch in August 👌😊
@@TheKasikaasuAutumm
Regret
"it's a lot to cover in one go" I feel your pain brother!
These ports are actually kind of incredible. If the Switch was a home-console exclusively I feel like it wouldn't be as impressive but the fact that these games can be played so well on a glorified handheld is nuts. Would have bought the collection day one if the games were on the cart, but personally I'm just going to wait for a deep sale to justify rebuying these games for the fourth time lol
And this shows how a Game can work on Switch. Sadly we still get "bad examples" of how a Ports should not be done on Switch (Outer Worlds)
This game was made for the ps3 in mind... Switch is almost 2x power of the ps3.. Maybe 90% interms of spec..
@Anonymous 100% true...
crapgamer reviews G That’s true, but I still think it’s impressive when you consider that the Switch is essentially a handheld tablet (where battery life is taken into consideration) and not a home console (where it’s always plugged in)
@@5persondude it has the power of home consoles though lol
The Bioshock Collection on Switch is perfect for me, they run amazing. Playing Bioshock handheld is unreal.
I have played these games way too many time...are the visual upgrades worth playing again on the Switch
@@JP-wm1cc Watch the damn video... Wtf is wrong with you people...
Nikitosthefirst He literally hasn’t watched the video and his comment was “Who plays third party games on switch 🤣🤣🤣”
Not worth it to me, I don't see the point is playing these again at lower quality.
Heisenberg White Portable play for a newcomer.Simple as that.
Now I know its a decent port, I might actually need to pick this up and replay it
Shame that it needs a riduculous amount of space to play it. Even if you buy the physical. With the physical, you need at least 31gb
@@teneesh3376 Then u buy a sd card simple as that, unless u want an uglier compressed game
@@lum1notryc828 I mean it cost $89. If you didn't have one, you'll have to pay more. People would need at least a 128gb micros d card for the long run. The other versions are way cheaper and better
@@teneesh3376 $89 for what?
Same here.
I was so impressed by this game on the switch! I was expecting really bad performance on it but holy crap it stayed solid through out the game
Why? There are better looking Switch games. BioShock 1+2 are 13 year old tech and Infinite ran fine on 360/PS3.
Luke probably because the game has had shoddy performance on a lot of consoles prior to patching.
I consider 30 fps on a 13 year old game as bad performance.
Did you play it in the TV? I’m afraid it looks like Assassin’s creed or Mortal Kombat 11 :/
@@fourlights Same.
I think they didn't do enough to upgrade res. Downgrading from 60fps to 30 was so huge I played for the first level annnnnnd I'm selling the game on switch. There are better games to play.
Bio shock is beyond my favorite series. Happy to see these master pieces on hand held.
@CJ P. New game is already in the works, it's in development by Cloud Chambers Studio which is a new 2K studio.
I'm halfway through actually playing the collection myself, and I was still excited for this video...
First time? If so I hope you enjoy and if you're returning I hope you have fun.
@@Darek_B52 Nup, finished all 3 in the PS3 Days... But both the Switch port and DF's technical reviews are fantastic, so it's positive all around! :D
So what do you want a medal?
@@pizzagateisrealThat would be really nice, yes please.
@@pizzagateisreal I would like a cookie
Still waiting for that Bioshock Vita.
Sad times
I really though it was gonna happen when they released Borderlands.
I'm still waiting for that Bioshock Android. 😔
Bordelands 2 was a better choice
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When ps5 and xbox sx are out, Im going to be glued to you guys xD
Nice to see a proper optimized remaster for switch, thanks bioshock
Proper?... these run at 30fps, the proper remastered run at 60FPS!...wtf you talking about?... these aren't proper on switch at all!
Heisenberg White yea but 1080p
@@heisenbergwhite00 Jesus christ would it hurt you not to shit your pants at the sight of 30fps iTs ToO sTuTtErY
As I say, these ps3 games are fine for the Switch. Now current gen titles like Outer Worlds or Doom Eternal, Nintendo's console will shit itself
@@dvornikovalexei The Doom 2016 port was great, even being so blurry. I'd have a resolution trade-off and maintain levels of detail, than what The Outer Shitworlds port came out as.
If someone told me, “You’ll be able to play this handheld one day”, when I was playing on the 360, I would never have believed it. Yet, here we are. I have this on XBOX Series, but will get it on switch. It’s worth having twice. Well, thrice.
ahh yes my favorite action game
the DF comments section
that never gets old xD
That initial 0:16 intro... will never forget how immersive it felt.
Looks surprisingly well ported! Hope you do the borderlands collection next, been waiting to play them (despite having them all on PC already)
They’re even better than the Bioshock ports. Look identical to PS4 version, same 1080p res with perfect 30fps. Most importantly there’s gyro aiming. The gamechanger.
BL2 plays like a dream, and the gyro aiming works perfectly.
I personally tried the Vita version of that game in the past, and it's a night and day difference, the Switch version is awesome.
@@ActionJaxonH Wait did they add gyro aiming with a patch? Because everybody was saying Bioshock didn't have it at release.
@@weaverquest I believe he was referring to the borderlands ports I was asking about, friend
I love this franchise and would welcome it into my Switch collection any time.
Played through all 3 games last week again..they're just amazing! I'm really in LOVE with those ports! Graphics are amazing!
Can they be downloaded seperately?
Currently bought the Collection and must say it's damm big and works really good
Physical or digital ? And Are all the games on the memory card or is there a required download
@@chillhour6155 have it Physical and as it seems 1 and 2 are on the Cartridge with 7GB Updates for the DLC and Infinite seems download only because it's 17.5GB alone on my Switch
God, rewatching this 2 years later it just blows me away how much people would have given to have a portable version of these games on their respective 360/PS3 launch days.
It's awesome to revisit childhood games like this and borderlands again. The combat in Infinite is the best imo. That rail system makes for some awesome immersive moments.
Rated M game
"Childhood"
The port is great, can't wait to revisit rapture and Columbia wherever I go. Also, will you cover the xcom and borderlands ports?
Xcom is trash and borderlands looks crispy 👌
@@airnhere. Xcom isnt trash. Looks and plays good on switch
Both of those ports are great. They do the originals justice 2K really did a great job bringing all these games to the Switch mostly unscathed.
@David Martin Portmann I think they're saying that in comparison to the Xbox One and PS4 versions. Either way, you still have a point.
I’m definitely buying the pack on the switch. Can’t wait to replay all three.
PS360 era ports of high-quality games that have never made it to handhelds (and never been available to Nintendo console owners) are one of the areas where Switch really shines. Switch is really able to sell these experiences convincingly in a handheld setting. I really don't understand why GTA V (the last-gen version) hasn't made its way across, it seems like the perfect candidate in this category.
Red dead redemption and GTAV seem like such obvious cash grabs.
I don't get it.
Soldano999 I hope there logic isn’t that because L.A. Noire on switch didn’t sell great they think their games won’t sell, because that would be dumb, L.A. Noire was one of their least popular games and the switch port was good but not amazing.
I like when Tom is around in these videos.
Got the collection for 6 bucks on the E-Shop and looking forward to seeing how it looks on my OLED. Hoping the performance is great and the ocean will hopefully look even more beautiful with the OLED
Damn, it might be time for a BioShock trilogy playthrough. I have them all on PC, but being able to play while sitting in bed is a tempting notion
improved foliage? this is a Must Buy!
I think 30 FPS is an unnoticeable drop in quality for a game on switch that plays on a projector like a high quality game. Good job bioshock I enjoyed your games so so much!
I bought this collection on a whim for my switch because I wanted to get it on my Xbox but I also wanted to play while traveling and going to work so I settled for handheld option. I haven’t played it undocked yet because I was blown away by the graphical fidelity docked mode has. Any untrained eye could see some downfalls in texture resolution and frame rate dips but to be able to go from playing on my tv to traveling with it , there’s no match. I’m really pleased with my purchase.
Shame about the physical release but it's good to know this is solid in case the digital comes on sale
This genuinely looks amazing on the OLED model in handheld. That OLED brings the Darkness of Rapture and the Colors of Columbia out beautifully and it's really impressive looking for this small handheld. And in handheld for whatever reason even the 30fps doesn't bother. The smaller screen and good motion blur hides it in a way and in the end these 3 games end up one of the best looking Switch titles period. Amazing porting effort 👌 😊
Would really love them to drop and MGS collection, 1-4
That would be sick. 1 and 4 are still playstation exclusive tho
Excellent, I was eagerly awaiting for this video. All three games surpassed my expectations and it’s always a joy to revisit Bioshock 1.
Hey DF could you try Switch overclocking for Hyrule Warriors in portable mode? Koei Tecmo never fixed the bug where it runs 1080p in portable and thus kills performance
@@XZ-III yeah there was never an update for it except for that tiny 1.0.1 that happened before it even came to the west
If you put the switch on 614 or what ever on the gpu it gets 60 most of the time. You can probably go a little lower to save battery, but I find that works the best
Well researched, informative and entertaining. Every video from you guys is a treat.
I just finished Bioshock 1 on my switch rn! It was so much fun! The only complaints I had were with some audio issues, like with switching between guns and looping sounds
Tom, you are my hero. While others make videos about PCs of 2005 and games they have weird obsessions in for a very long time (Crysis!), you make the basic work at DF with your classic game analyses. This is why most people came to DF and love it so much. Thank you!
Yay for Tom, but I like that other stuff, too. (Yay for Alex and Yay for Crysis, lol...)
Nintendo Switch, SteamDeck, ROG ALLY. What a time to live in where handheld devices are pretty much capable.
I'm in love with my portable BioShock
Me too on my Surface Tablet
Ahahah what a moron you are.
Me too on my note 10 plus
@@heisenbergwhite00I'm playing it on my soulja-game portable. Git gud.
I'm so happy three of my favorite games of all time got a pretty amazing Switch port with excellent frame rate and basically no frame drops. I just wish they had included motion aiming
Would've like to see how the Bioshock 1 port compares to the Nvidia shield handheld from years ago. If I'm remembering right the switch was going to have a more powerful chipset than that machine but final production model had the same tegra chip. Would love to see what improvements the switch version pulls off.
Also, checking the early sections of these games doesn't really tell the full performance story. In particular, I remember the last few combat sections of Infinite going to straight garbage framerates back on ps3, would be curious if that's all fixed on the remaster versions. Obviously don't need to show those sections for spoilers but would be nice to know about the more taxing parts of the game
People have found the Switch can be modded to unlock the frame rate with many games ported from PC or other consoles. Most of the settings are modified for stable performance and avoiding over heating of the system. Can you run 60fps? Yes with modding but only if you can chuck in some extra fans lol
Man, I miss Bioshock. I really wish there was a new one coming
Me too loved these games
Why do consoles always have a problem adopting AFx16, when on PC it almost doesn't consume any resources in comparison with other effects?
Yeah it's baffling. Even back in like 2005 you could turn on 16x AF for a completely meaningless performance drop. 1-2 FPS at the very most.
I think it’s because of the console GPU bandwidth limitations. High AF is limited by bandwidth, which isn’t a problem in the Desktop/laptop side.
On the Desktop side, the GPU has its own dedicated memory pool, so the data rate is significantly higher like 192GB/s or higher even for low end cards and laptops.
Meanwhile, the switch is limited to about ~25GB/s which is lower than even 360 at 32GB/s or the 256GB/s for the embedded RAM on the 360.
For perspective, The PS4 GPU has about 120-140GB/s.
I think it’s the Switch’s Achilles heel, the poor bandwidth between system memory and the GPU
@@haxorinator8219 That should affect APUs too, i will have to search APU game benchmarks with AFx16 vs none or AFx4. But it might be true
Console dev here. From my experience you can gain about 1ms universally in a 30fps/33ms GPU frame by switching from AF16x to 4x. 1x even more.
A lot of console games have tight GPU budget so anything helps.
Dude tell me about it. It's such an important feature. I'm so sick of consoles not having it
I was waiting for this one. Never played but will buy this collection. Thanks for the upload DF.
Impressive visuals and performance on the switch. Thanks for the upload.
I just got BSI since I never got the Buried at Sea DLC, I am very impressed how well the port runs and looks considering these were the same guys that ported Outer Worlds (Virtuos), maybe due to the lower technical constraints on these older titles. I do have all 3 originals/remasters on PC as well. :)) Glad to have BS on the go!!
The Switch is too weak for a 2019 title running on UE4. Case closed.
In fact, these two games are ported by different studios.
These games look amazing on the switch itself. These videos don't do it justice.
Switch related content is the only thing that makes pirn analysis interesting
I was waiting for this, thank you! I always watch your videos before I buy a third party game. I’ve been waiting to revisit bioshock on switch ever since it was rumored.
I remember trying to play Bioshock Infinite on my i3 3rd gen with Intel HD 3000 graphics. I can't remember specific frame rates but it became unplayable due to loading times. It had a hard drive, but I'm sure it was the CPU that was the bottle neck in that regard. I'm sure the GPU kept me at in the low 20's fps wise, but back then that didn't bother me much. Its weird to think about, but now that 30 fps looks absolutely horrible to me having had a decent PC for years. I can't help but remember those days with that laptop though, and think about how hard I tried to play infinite with a terrible frame rate and loading times, while the switch does it better. Had the Switch existed when I was in highschool, It would have absolutely blown my mind. To be completely honest, it still actually does.
I like how Tom is very softly spoken and positive.
Playing through the first one and I'm thoroughly impressed by the port!
Wish it was 60 fps, but still it is really nice to see the remastered games running
Great job as always Tom.
All these games run awesome on the switch.
Bought this and Borderlands, extremly pleased with both :)
Man I'm glad these games are coming to switch. Not a huge fan of the classic nintendo IP games, being able to play black flag and witcher 3 on the go is awesome. Dont even have my switch dock connected to the tv, just have it next to the bed for charging lol, have the other consoles and a pc for big screen stuff.
Witcher 3 is really good..
Personally I've been playing Dark Souls on the Switch, mostly invading to rank up my sin counter in the Book of the Guilty..
Invasions are still fairly common on the Switch..
DF is amazing, thank you guys!
Glad they mentioned the physics fps fix mod.
I’ve owned a gtx 970 and a Radeon hd 7850. The 7850 is basically equivalent to what you see on Xbox one and ps4. I got over 60fps all the time in bioshock infinite maxed out 1080p. I think it was on the 7850. How could an optimized console drop any frames lower than 60fps. Unless this remaster is putting the details higher than the original pc release
Exactly my thoughts
it's sick you can play game like this on a mobile device
Well it’s a home console you can take with you and it’s awesome
Again Switch impresses with what it can do with its mobile chipset. Looking at those videos I'm still impressed with what the 360 achieved though. My steam copies of Bioshock games were automatically upgraded for free to the latest versions and I recently bought a Ryzen 3500U laptop for £240 thanks to an offer and plays it fine at 1080p on the laptop screen. Switch performance is starting to fall back a fair bit with what entry to mid-level laptops can achieve. The Ryzen 3500U laptop has 1.3TF of gpu performance which is about the performance of the original xbox one plus the CPU side is significantly more powerful than xbox one. A laptop like that can play a huge amount of fantastic PC games on the go which you may already own on steam anyway. I guess that is my main issue with Switch versions of old games, you are paying a lot to get those games and when support for Switch ends in a few years you lose access to your games if you bought them digitally. My laptop came with a 256GB SSD and I'm planning to add a 2TB HDD too.
Huh, so it looks like they’ll never fix the crashing problem on the PC remasters.
Are we getting borderlands soon?
Anyone else prefers solo vidoes rather these ones where it just feels like watching a conversation rather than a simple analysis video?
I picked these up and am happy but damn the fact the ports are so good makes the lack of a true physical copy really awful.
Cross save functionality would be pretty cool
This is the video i was waiting for
The switch is legendary!
All 3 Bioshock games and all 3 Borderlands games are muah! Chef’s kiss. And XCOM 2 on Switch is a miracle. Not perfect like Bioshock/Borderlands but way, WAY better than Outer Worlds. XCOM 2 looks incredible on the handheld screen. Even docked looks great.
At 7:34 you can see the bridge popping in on the Switch
Finished the first Bioshock on Switch just a few days ago, and it really is a masterpiece. The port (as the DF analysis shows) is quite good, although: the game froze on me two times during the entire gameplay (loosing a fair bit of progress), the audio quality is far from perfect (with the ending credits being especially bad) and there are some low-res textures here and there. The biggest bummer though? The persistent error message (“failed to connect to 2K servers”) that keeps showing after waking up the game from hibernation.
while the witch has a lot more RAM, its bandwidth (25.6 GB/s/) is only a little bit faster then the xbox 360s (22.40 GB/s)
Man I want new Bioshock so badly. People play this games, they are awesome.
It's in development
Considering this is vidoe is over 15 minutes, some comparison with X360 would’ve been great.
Great stuff as always, it would be awesome if you can do Borderlands Switch collection aswell!
I’m more impressed with how good the xbox 360 version looked back in 2007. Wow that’s impressive
Too bad its not possible to unlock the frame rate on Switch. I loved that I was possible on Xbox360.
Edit: With a CFW on Switch it actually IS possible to unlock the framerate and it works perfectly.... at least in handheld mode.
Incredible analysis, besides, talking about Switch I'm only interested in the portable analysis, I barely use my Switch docked
I love how they came out with a Pro/Series X patch when only 2 months ago I got a platinum in number two. 😂 Ah well at least I wasn’t missing much there. But as regards this port for the switch it will be cool to play the games on the go. Also who can’t wait for the next Bioshock? In the words of Spongebob, “I need it”.
Sometimes I think DF is too harsh or exquisite about performance in videogames, but I think it's ok to have that meticolous point of view so the industry won't fall into laziness when making ultimate videogame's experiences. In this case with Bioshock, I think specially Infinite in many specific situations had perfomance drops that were clearly visible but at the end, didn't ruin the experience.
I think it has a better comparison to 360 or PS3. Is it possible for a video on this? Great video!
Looks great on Switch considering the power!
7:04 The Switch seems to have more seagrass and stuff.
the reason bioshock 1 and 2 run better than infinite is not so much engine related, it's because that port was done for the nvidia shield. which is far more powerful version of the same hardware. so it'd already been optimized for the platform.
im honestly shocked that nintendo didnt censor anything from these 3 games, i just got the trilogy yesterday and to play infinite without nintendo coming in and going "nah cant have the intro brah" is so refreshing.
I was waiting for this vid :)))
I hope this means there will be a bioshock reboot with bigger dense areas like skyscrapers
The fact Bioshock still looks so good shows how little we've come forward in the last 13 years.. remember what 13 year prior to 2007 looked like... Doom had just come out
Have you seen RDR2 on a 2080Ti build? We've come a long way in 13 years too
"How little we've come forward". Lmao you're so dense, commenting that in the REMASTER of the game.
Well, when Bioshock came out was ahead of its time, by the other hand, This is a Remaster, so there's some improvement over the original version, this is not something I would recommend, to take as reference to make that assumption.
The real deal is when you compare this game with, for example, RDR2.
the thing is, as graphics become more and more detailed, you will notice jumps in fidelity less and less.
imagine a circle in a PS1 game (maybe the wheels of a car), there you wouldn't really see a circle, what you would see would most likely be an octagonal shape that is supposed to resemble a circle.
now jump to the PS2, maybe there a circle has a ton more detail, so instead of 8 sides it now has 32, and you'll instantly notice that easily, but it still doesn't look convincingly round.
now jump to PS3, and there the circle has 128 sides, now it actually starts looking round, you need to go really close to see that it's not.
so now we go to the PS4 and there the circle has 256 sides... even tho it doubled in detail you will only see that difference if you go extremely close and inspect it closely.
now double or triple that and you'll see almost no difference even tho there is multiple times more detail.
I think Assassins Creed and Crysis felt way more amazing at the time but yes Bioshock was impressive, too.
I would have expected a lot more in 13 years as well but I think the fact that way more money is made from cookie cutter sequels using the same engine, Fifa, Fortnite, Hearthstone etc than something like RDR2 or Death Stranding dictates that.
13 years since it first came out. Someone stop the clock please.
If you guys are planning to cover the Borderlands ports, please cover Multiplayer split screen!
SwitchUp covered that and they said it's a consistent 30fps. Tradeoff is that it's 2 player splitscreen, no option for 4 player splitscreen.
Bioshock infinite plays and looks great on Switch. But I’m not a fan of the heavy “fog” or “god ray” affects to compensate some of the bigger areas.
The most annoying bullshit about the collection on ps4 is that it blocks the use of the share button for streaming. Only game I know that does this. Mafia 3 blocked cutscene audio but that's it
"It just works" - Todd Howard
You sounded sooo disappointed that the frame rate is stable.
He was disappointed it was 30fps with framepacing issues
Please add gyro-aiming as part of an update!
02:34 DF tries acouple of time to burn the guy in the water, but it doesn't work.
The guy finally steps out of the water, gets burned, jump in the water.
DF try again to burn the guy in the water xD