If anyone is curious, I bought this board and put some ceramic keycaps and oil kings in it and did a little sound test on my channel. The cellphone mic doesn't do it justice, but you get the jist of it. It sounds incredible and feels great. I absolutely love this board. True enthusiasts will want the bare bone version with their own switches and caps and believe me, it's worth it. I have no affiliation with keychron, I just think this board is absolutely incredible for the price point.
Honestly this keyboard is absurd. I picked it up for just over 110 bucks off of Amazon, unfortunately couldn't get a bare bones but replaced the reds with frozen silent v2's
So I did the Kickstarter for this, which BTW was one of the best KS I have been in. I got my board a couple of months ago but within a couple of days the lights went out on a couple of rows of the PCB. Lemokey was very responsive but it took a while for them to get me another PCB after we decided on how to proceed. What I will note is that this is one of the most difficult boards I have ever taken apart or built (built or modified over 30 boards in the past couple of years). Getting all of the cables back in the right spot then getting the gaskets to align while everything is connected is not easy. If one part is off it won't sit right together. I did swap to the lighter beans and they do make a little bit of a difference even with the foam but nothing like the Q series which is probably one of the bounciest keyboards I have. I got the blue with the Banana and I like them quite a bit, sounded better in this than the Q1 Pro but since I had to take everything a part I put Baby Ks in it. In regards to that spacebar sound check to make sure your switch is all the way into the plate/socket. There is a lip that goes between the top and bottom case but there is no room for it so when you tighten down the case it will bend the pate a little and part of the switch won't be in the plate. This made the spacebar sound terrible. I was able to resolve this by loosing the screw close to the spacebar. I did add some 205g0 to all the stabs as well while I had everything apart which made a big difference. To me this sounds better than any Keychron I have owned, it still sounds like a Keychron though, just better. If people want a really creamy thocky sound the Halo 75 v2 and the ND75 are deeper out of the box and the Rainy75 and the AL75 much poppier. This gives a more little bit of all of them IMHO. I do really like it quite a bit though, the front is lower than all of those other boards I mentioned but the Yunzii AL75 and for someone who doesn't like to use a wrist rest that alone makes a HUGE difference to me. The backweight is nice as well and the look is fantastic - the blue colorway and quality of the caps is fantastic. Price performance I definitely like this better than my Q1 Pro... just wish it had a little more bounce. Quite unexpectedly the Halo75 v2, which I purchased after your review, has been on my desk pretty much the entire time since I got it - replacing my QK75n with Nixies and GMK that has been there for months. Got everything rebuilt on this just a couple of days ago so using it for now... but jury is still out if it will become primary or I'll go back to the Halo. Very glad I got the board though and for someone without a nice keyboard who wants a full AL but doesn't want to build or drop $200... this is a great board.
I adore my Halo75 v2 also, and your thoughts on deeper vs poppier concerning the boards you compared it to are pretty spot on. It's a fantastic product, and I definitely won't be buying another board until it eventually passes away. If I do spend any more money in this hobby, it'll be on keycaps and/or switches. It really feels nice to buy a product and know that no matter how many more keyboard review videos you'll binge, they won't compel you to buy anything else. I'm more than satisfied with my Halo.
hey i received mine 4 days ago and the spacebar sounds and feels horrible like its choking and not going down properly, it only got a little better with use and especially when i took the keycap off and back on? how do i know if i should loosen the screw next to the keyboard or not to set the switch properly? this is my first ever mechanical keyboard so im not really used to this
@@Souneed you might try that some switches seem to "snap" in better than others. The Gateron Baby Ks I have in mine definitely make a snap sound when put into the plate so it's easy to tell if it's not all the way in. If you have the space bar off and look at the switch from the side you should be able to see if it's all the way in or not.
@@MarbsMusic i think its not all the way in and i tried loosening the screw next to it but the problem is the switch hole itself is not perfectly aligned i think damn
@@MarbsMusic plus the spacebar switch is always stuck to the keycap every time i take it off, anyways the feel and sound is acceptable to me now after pushing it in a tiny bit further and loosening the screw might have helped, im not in the mood for now to open it up and get stuck putting it back together as i saw.so many people say its not easy at all let alone for someone who never opened a keyboard before 😂 i ll give it a month or two before im ready to deal with it on that level thanks for your tip
You have every right to be nit-picky when deciding on cons. Those nuanced explanations of things you believe may turn off a large percentage of potential customers aren't as unusual as some may think. Being a hobbyist in this community means that you likely have an innate attention to detail, and when deciding on how to spend hundreds of dollars on something you hope will be a great investment, even the smallest details matter.
100%. Nit picky is good. Great review. Lack of dongle storage is not awful to me, but using USB A instead of USB C is. A slap to the face of Mac users. And what's up with those off-center key labels? Ick. Slap on some custom XDA keycaps. With Mac labels.
love my P1 pro. swapped the switches out for CK lemons and did the tape mod. lubed the stabs up a little bit and its perfect for me. Good review. I just don't look into its identity crisis in the market, its already over saturated. I think its great board for the money.
Excellent review. Bought one to replace a Q2 Pro, mainly for the 2.4ghz (for better integration with a KVM). Same boat as you - work laptop is Windows, personal machine is a Mac. Was happy to create a toggle layer to switch between layouts as needed - or you could also swap the modifiers around in MacOS. One less switch is a pro for me because those OS and mode rockers have always have been the least reassuring component of Keychron boards. Also like that it's stiffer as I actually felt it was a bit too much in the Q2 and made it feel kind of crummy (to me, at least). The only major con for me for me is the sound profile. Also have a Halo75 v2 at work and really like the sound - which to me is 'marbley'. Admittedly, have tactiles on the P1 Pro, but it feels downright noisy by comparison.
Love the review, it was very helpful. It does feel a bit unfair to compare it to such a pricier keyboard. Also, I honestly like the screws being more hidden. It takes a bit more effort but adds to the overall look in my opinion.
Love the fomo you enthusiasts put on the rest of the community by endorsing every Kickstartr that comes to fruition. There's no reason a company that's been around as long as keychron needs to do this. Can't wait for razer and asus to start crowd funding too. 😂
Unsure if you tested the Q1 Pro, but would you pick the P1 Pro over the Q1 Pro? I'm currently in the market for a new Keyboard and seeing the P1 Pro seems pretty solid over my older K2 (K2A1) keyboard which I'm trying to get a much quieter keyboard since mine doesn't have any foam and unfortunately the keys are soldered so adding foam other than a base foam at the bottom is all I can do I believe.
Or do you have a recommendation in this price of the P1 Pro? I'm trying to stick with something quiet as I use it for work and gaming. I was looking at the K2 Pro, but the P1 Pro seems pretty solid for the price.
@@J_Brian Akko Monsgeek M1W would also in your budget (the V3 models are even cheaper than the older ones!). Even the pre-assembled model is around 120 USD, but you could get barebones and pretty good silent switches from Akko (Fairy or Penguin), although a set of keycaps would inflate the price vs pre-assembled a bit.
@@J_BrianLook at the Bridge75, as well. I have one that will be here in a few days, but reviews seem to be really good. That being said, I really like the P1, but I didn’t get the Pro, and my Q1 is a V2, so steel plate. I do like the P1 better overall, because sound is better, but in your case, not sure how different it would be. I don’t like tactile, so usually get the reds but change out for yellows or blacks. Running Cream Blacks currently. I don’t feel they are overly, but the Super Reds are a bit quieter. Weight is similar. For the price, I like it. Got the ND75, but decided the knob is my preference.
Main con: I want to get keycaps, but I can't find good side printed keycaps that match the blue! I also comes with a set of yellow keycaps that match the Playstation controller shapes, with no real indication as to what they are really for. They're for the bottom row, I think, so I used them to replace the arrow keys.
A huge con he didn't mention is the P1 Pro having its labels jammed up in the left corner. Why even do that? All said, this Lemokey's a great value overall.
@@dannyize Not really something I'd call a huge con to be honest. I didn't even really notice them being in the corner. If you didn't mention it, I wouldn't have noticed. But it didn't need to be mentioned since the board is clearly shown in the video and thumbnail.
hidden screws look better (I mean the case does), and having to remove some keycaps isn't that bad. Slightly off center USB port... Seriously. Re WiFi receiver, 2kg board isn't realy meant to be carried around a lot, so I would guess most of us will survive with the receiver connected to the PC (and it's a $130 premium board.).
Ok so as a newb, should I get this or the Keychron V1 max. Looking for a 75% layout that I can use at home and at the office. I currently have the K3 pro but plan on returning it.
If you're going to carry it back and forth, the V1 Max weighs a lot less due to the plastic build - it doesn't feel as premium, but it saves quite a bit on weight - it's nearly 2lbs lighter. One thing I also like about the V1 Max is they give you 2 receivers for the 2.4GHz, one for USB-A and one for USB-C. The keycaps on the P1 Pro are nicer (better quality) and the overall build quality feels more premium due to the metal case, it just costs you on the portability.
@@semiprotech I easily went down the rabbit hole when discovering the world of mech keyboards haha. I ordered a k3 pro which I liked but ordered the non hot-swappable by mistake and returned it. It felt a little cramped as far as keys go but maybe with time I would get used to it. Considered the Air75 V2 but reading mixed reviews. Might just stick with my MX keys mini a little while longer. While it’s pretty boring, it does the job for a home/office hybrid work keyboard.. thanks for your input!
Hello ! Nice video ! I can't count the video about the P1 Pro I watch since weeks... I'm new to Mecha Keyboard (I mean, I have since years but everytime from Gaming brand) and is not easy to find exactly what is the best for me. I still hesitated but the P1 Pro look very good for me. Maybe you can give me some advice ? My utilization is more gaming that another thing. If I'm not gaming, I just use my keyboard for write documentation or mail at works. Bugdet max 150€. Thanks y!
Great review! I don’t get it, my Azoth lasts 2000 hours and supposedly battery size is smaller than 4000mah. It’s got a plastic bottom, is stiff and has exposed keycaps so it’s by no means perfect.
The battery life is mostly down to the firmware. QMK, while great for being able to customize, is not a very power-efficient firmware and running wireless connections with higher polling rates makes it even less efficient. Firmware like ZMK and some proprietary firmwares from manufacturers like ASUS, Logitech, etc. really maximize battery life, even while using higher polling rate connections. But they are not open-source and third party tools like VIA can't be used to easily remap or customize the firmware, so that's the reason why some people prefer QMK even though it doesn't allow for the best battery life.
@@semiprotech Thanks for the explanation. So long story short it is the big brands proprietary battery tech. The disparity is just shocking. Asus 2.4G is also more reliable with less latency.
rtings.com tested the Lemokey L3 and it performed pretty well with latency, 2.9ms single key 3.8ms multi-key but the polling rate was bottlenecked to 500MHz. The P1 does have a different MCU though, so not sure what difference that makes in the latency result. Would be nice if they test this one out too because I don't have the setup to accurately measure latency.
The start of the video got me laughing . This is not a Keychron keyboard. This is Lemokey P1 Pro. Keychrons gaming focused brand 🤣. First it is not. And then it is
Technically, it's not. Seems to be a rebrand/OEM from another Chinese manufacturer, see the SKN Bluebird 75, which was on sale before the P1 by a few weeks.
@@BriefDistractions Yeah many things are rebranded or copied. Because how much can you inovate with a keyboard design? And why not use something that people allready like. As they say. If it aint broke dont try to fix it. Can be made with same design. But made with better material and components so there is that also. LOGIC. Its becoming more rare these days
Listening to keyboard enthusiasts I come to the conclusion yall are weirdos who do way too much thinking. Just going to buy it because the complaints I see are just such reddit activities.
If anyone is curious, I bought this board and put some ceramic keycaps and oil kings in it and did a little sound test on my channel. The cellphone mic doesn't do it justice, but you get the jist of it. It sounds incredible and feels great. I absolutely love this board. True enthusiasts will want the bare bone version with their own switches and caps and believe me, it's worth it. I have no affiliation with keychron, I just think this board is absolutely incredible for the price point.
That's a great video BTW! Board sounds amazing!
Honestly this keyboard is absurd. I picked it up for just over 110 bucks off of Amazon, unfortunately couldn't get a bare bones but replaced the reds with frozen silent v2's
So I did the Kickstarter for this, which BTW was one of the best KS I have been in. I got my board a couple of months ago but within a couple of days the lights went out on a couple of rows of the PCB. Lemokey was very responsive but it took a while for them to get me another PCB after we decided on how to proceed. What I will note is that this is one of the most difficult boards I have ever taken apart or built (built or modified over 30 boards in the past couple of years). Getting all of the cables back in the right spot then getting the gaskets to align while everything is connected is not easy. If one part is off it won't sit right together.
I did swap to the lighter beans and they do make a little bit of a difference even with the foam but nothing like the Q series which is probably one of the bounciest keyboards I have. I got the blue with the Banana and I like them quite a bit, sounded better in this than the Q1 Pro but since I had to take everything a part I put Baby Ks in it.
In regards to that spacebar sound check to make sure your switch is all the way into the plate/socket. There is a lip that goes between the top and bottom case but there is no room for it so when you tighten down the case it will bend the pate a little and part of the switch won't be in the plate. This made the spacebar sound terrible. I was able to resolve this by loosing the screw close to the spacebar. I did add some 205g0 to all the stabs as well while I had everything apart which made a big difference.
To me this sounds better than any Keychron I have owned, it still sounds like a Keychron though, just better. If people want a really creamy thocky sound the Halo 75 v2 and the ND75 are deeper out of the box and the Rainy75 and the AL75 much poppier. This gives a more little bit of all of them IMHO. I do really like it quite a bit though, the front is lower than all of those other boards I mentioned but the Yunzii AL75 and for someone who doesn't like to use a wrist rest that alone makes a HUGE difference to me. The backweight is nice as well and the look is fantastic - the blue colorway and quality of the caps is fantastic. Price performance I definitely like this better than my Q1 Pro... just wish it had a little more bounce.
Quite unexpectedly the Halo75 v2, which I purchased after your review, has been on my desk pretty much the entire time since I got it - replacing my QK75n with Nixies and GMK that has been there for months. Got everything rebuilt on this just a couple of days ago so using it for now... but jury is still out if it will become primary or I'll go back to the Halo. Very glad I got the board though and for someone without a nice keyboard who wants a full AL but doesn't want to build or drop $200... this is a great board.
I adore my Halo75 v2 also, and your thoughts on deeper vs poppier concerning the boards you compared it to are pretty spot on. It's a fantastic product, and I definitely won't be buying another board until it eventually passes away. If I do spend any more money in this hobby, it'll be on keycaps and/or switches. It really feels nice to buy a product and know that no matter how many more keyboard review videos you'll binge, they won't compel you to buy anything else. I'm more than satisfied with my Halo.
hey i received mine 4 days ago and the spacebar sounds and feels horrible like its choking and not going down properly, it only got a little better with use and especially when i took the keycap off and back on? how do i know if i should loosen the screw next to the keyboard or not to set the switch properly? this is my first ever mechanical keyboard so im not really used to this
@@Souneed you might try that some switches seem to "snap" in better than others. The Gateron Baby Ks I have in mine definitely make a snap sound when put into the plate so it's easy to tell if it's not all the way in. If you have the space bar off and look at the switch from the side you should be able to see if it's all the way in or not.
@@MarbsMusic i think its not all the way in and i tried loosening the screw next to it but the problem is the switch hole itself is not perfectly aligned i think damn
@@MarbsMusic plus the spacebar switch is always stuck to the keycap every time i take it off, anyways the feel and sound is acceptable to me now after pushing it in a tiny bit further and loosening the screw might have helped, im not in the mood for now to open it up and get stuck putting it back together as i saw.so many people say its not easy at all let alone for someone who never opened a keyboard before 😂 i ll give it a month or two before im ready to deal with it on that level thanks for your tip
You have every right to be nit-picky when deciding on cons. Those nuanced explanations of things you believe may turn off a large percentage of potential customers aren't as unusual as some may think. Being a hobbyist in this community means that you likely have an innate attention to detail, and when deciding on how to spend hundreds of dollars on something you hope will be a great investment, even the smallest details matter.
100%. Nit picky is good. Great review.
Lack of dongle storage is not awful to me, but using USB A instead of USB C is. A slap to the face of Mac users. And what's up with those off-center key labels? Ick. Slap on some custom XDA keycaps. With Mac labels.
love my P1 pro. swapped the switches out for CK lemons and did the tape mod. lubed the stabs up a little bit and its perfect for me. Good review. I just don't look into its identity crisis in the market, its already over saturated. I think its great board for the money.
Crazy timing, I just started looking at this board and the value looked insane.
Excellent review. Bought one to replace a Q2 Pro, mainly for the 2.4ghz (for better integration with a KVM). Same boat as you - work laptop is Windows, personal machine is a Mac. Was happy to create a toggle layer to switch between layouts as needed - or you could also swap the modifiers around in MacOS. One less switch is a pro for me because those OS and mode rockers have always have been the least reassuring component of Keychron boards. Also like that it's stiffer as I actually felt it was a bit too much in the Q2 and made it feel kind of crummy (to me, at least).
The only major con for me for me is the sound profile. Also have a Halo75 v2 at work and really like the sound - which to me is 'marbley'. Admittedly, have tactiles on the P1 Pro, but it feels downright noisy by comparison.
Do the LEDs look pale to you when you put them to solid blue? That's what I've noticed with mine
VERY helpful video. Thank you for making it. 🙏
Glad it was helpful!
I went with it from the K70 RGB. It's pretty much perfect for my use. Mostly work and occasional non competitive gaming.
Good sound overall, but that spacebar just sounds off.
Love the review, it was very helpful. It does feel a bit unfair to compare it to such a pricier keyboard. Also, I honestly like the screws being more hidden. It takes a bit more effort but adds to the overall look in my opinion.
Love the fomo you enthusiasts put on the rest of the community by endorsing every Kickstartr that comes to fruition. There's no reason a company that's been around as long as keychron needs to do this. Can't wait for razer and asus to start crowd funding too. 😂
Yeh, I thought KS was meant to give little shops a boost. It's become yet another FOMO for nerdists.
Unsure if you tested the Q1 Pro, but would you pick the P1 Pro over the Q1 Pro? I'm currently in the market for a new Keyboard and seeing the P1 Pro seems pretty solid over my older K2 (K2A1) keyboard which I'm trying to get a much quieter keyboard since mine doesn't have any foam and unfortunately the keys are soldered so adding foam other than a base foam at the bottom is all I can do I believe.
Or do you have a recommendation in this price of the P1 Pro? I'm trying to stick with something quiet as I use it for work and gaming. I was looking at the K2 Pro, but the P1 Pro seems pretty solid for the price.
@@J_Brian Akko Monsgeek M1W would also in your budget (the V3 models are even cheaper than the older ones!). Even the pre-assembled model is around 120 USD, but you could get barebones and pretty good silent switches from Akko (Fairy or Penguin), although a set of keycaps would inflate the price vs pre-assembled a bit.
@@J_Brianusing it rn yes absolutely worth it
@@J_BrianLook at the Bridge75, as well. I have one that will be here in a few days, but reviews seem to be really good. That being said, I really like the P1, but I didn’t get the Pro, and my Q1 is a V2, so steel plate. I do like the P1 better overall, because sound is better, but in your case, not sure how different it would be. I don’t like tactile, so usually get the reds but change out for yellows or blacks. Running Cream Blacks currently. I don’t feel they are overly, but the Super Reds are a bit quieter. Weight is similar. For the price, I like it. Got the ND75, but decided the knob is my preference.
bought it and loving it rn worth the bucks
Main con: I want to get keycaps, but I can't find good side printed keycaps that match the blue!
I also comes with a set of yellow keycaps that match the Playstation controller shapes, with no real indication as to what they are really for. They're for the bottom row, I think, so I used them to replace the arrow keys.
A huge con he didn't mention is the P1 Pro having its labels jammed up in the left corner. Why even do that? All said, this Lemokey's a great value overall.
@@dannyize Not really something I'd call a huge con to be honest. I didn't even really notice them being in the corner. If you didn't mention it, I wouldn't have noticed. But it didn't need to be mentioned since the board is clearly shown in the video and thumbnail.
What about the lights? Can they be seen by the typist? Can you see the backlit keys in the dark?
The backlights can be seen but they work against you in a dimly lit room. The keycaps are not shine-through. Go figure.
Which keyboard would you say sounds the best out of the box ?
wow you're really up to date
hidden screws look better (I mean the case does), and having to remove some keycaps isn't that bad. Slightly off center USB port... Seriously. Re WiFi receiver, 2kg board isn't realy meant to be carried around a lot, so I would guess most of us will survive with the receiver connected to the PC (and it's a $130 premium board.).
Ok so as a newb, should I get this or the Keychron V1 max. Looking for a 75% layout that I can use at home and at the office. I currently have the K3 pro but plan on returning it.
If you're going to carry it back and forth, the V1 Max weighs a lot less due to the plastic build - it doesn't feel as premium, but it saves quite a bit on weight - it's nearly 2lbs lighter. One thing I also like about the V1 Max is they give you 2 receivers for the 2.4GHz, one for USB-A and one for USB-C. The keycaps on the P1 Pro are nicer (better quality) and the overall build quality feels more premium due to the metal case, it just costs you on the portability.
@@semiprotech I easily went down the rabbit hole when discovering the world of mech keyboards haha. I ordered a k3 pro which I liked but ordered the non hot-swappable by mistake and returned it. It felt a little cramped as far as keys go but maybe with time I would get used to it. Considered the Air75 V2 but reading mixed reviews. Might just stick with my MX keys mini a little while longer. While it’s pretty boring, it does the job for a home/office hybrid work keyboard.. thanks for your input!
Guess I’ll keep waiting. Big L on the no storage for 2.4hz for me. But great video.
Hello ! Nice video ! I can't count the video about the P1 Pro I watch since weeks... I'm new to Mecha Keyboard (I mean, I have since years but everytime from Gaming brand) and is not easy to find exactly what is the best for me.
I still hesitated but the P1 Pro look very good for me.
Maybe you can give me some advice ? My utilization is more gaming that another thing. If I'm not gaming, I just use my keyboard for write documentation or mail at works.
Bugdet max 150€.
Thanks y!
I have this keyboard and I’m loving it so far, definitely going to change the switches at some point in the future
To what switches?
@@J0eMega I have no idea there’s so many switches out there I keep changing which ones I want
Great review! I don’t get it, my Azoth lasts 2000 hours and supposedly battery size is smaller than 4000mah. It’s got a plastic bottom, is stiff and has exposed keycaps so it’s by no means perfect.
The battery life is mostly down to the firmware. QMK, while great for being able to customize, is not a very power-efficient firmware and running wireless connections with higher polling rates makes it even less efficient. Firmware like ZMK and some proprietary firmwares from manufacturers like ASUS, Logitech, etc. really maximize battery life, even while using higher polling rate connections. But they are not open-source and third party tools like VIA can't be used to easily remap or customize the firmware, so that's the reason why some people prefer QMK even though it doesn't allow for the best battery life.
@@semiprotech Thanks for the explanation. So long story short it is the big brands proprietary battery tech. The disparity is just shocking. Asus 2.4G is also more reliable with less latency.
I'd buy it if i knew what the latency on it was. And keychron regularly sucks in that aspect
rtings.com tested the Lemokey L3 and it performed pretty well with latency, 2.9ms single key 3.8ms multi-key but the polling rate was bottlenecked to 500MHz. The P1 does have a different MCU though, so not sure what difference that makes in the latency result. Would be nice if they test this one out too because I don't have the setup to accurately measure latency.
The start of the video got me laughing . This is not a Keychron keyboard. This is Lemokey P1 Pro. Keychrons gaming focused brand 🤣. First it is not. And then it is
You can also buy it on the Keychron site or on the Lemokey site lol
Technically, it's not. Seems to be a rebrand/OEM from another Chinese manufacturer, see the SKN Bluebird 75, which was on sale before the P1 by a few weeks.
@@BriefDistractions Yeah many things are rebranded or copied. Because how much can you inovate with a keyboard design? And why not use something that people allready like. As they say. If it aint broke dont try to fix it. Can be made with same design. But made with better material and components so there is that also. LOGIC. Its becoming more rare these days
Both brands are likely assembled at the same factory. Most of the PCB design is outsourced to a supplier just like the auto industry.
Listening to keyboard enthusiasts I come to the conclusion yall are weirdos who do way too much thinking. Just going to buy it because the complaints I see are just such reddit activities.
I thought that too. Now I'm down the rabbit hole of finding perfect keys and cap combos. Everything really makes a difference.
I think its pronounced "lemon party"
Give me this with HE switches and a place for the dongle and i would insta buy it
they almost have it with the q1 he, but that's quite expensive at 213$ + shipping
without a numeric keypad on the left side, for me as a designer working in CAD, it is not a practical keyboard.
Ok?
ok
Mac users don't matter.