Keychron K3.. I sold it for MX Keys Mechanical instead
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 21 ก.ย. 2024
- After 3 months of trying, I just couldn't keep using this Keychron as a productivity tool.
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Instant sub. No filler. No crap. Honest. Great editing and production. You're going places with this style!
100% agree, I read this comment 30 seconds in and was thinking the same thing 😆
absolutely same here!
He only captioned the video as sold keyboard, but he actually does a review with it :D
This is what MKBHD was like in the old days
+1 , reminded me of how TH-cam used to be a few years ago.
Man, that was marvelous experience watching you 😄 Humor, voice, video quality, scenario - all top notch
I've been using a k3 for 18months now, and I totally agree with you. The most annoying part is the sleep mode. It's very inconsistent and it often takes too long to wake up, enough to disrupt my day to day tasks
You can turn it off. Hold fn+S+O for 3 seconds to disable the Auto Sleep Mode.
Battery runs out fast by doing that
My scenario is exactly same, I had a good experience with apple magic keyboard and I wanted to connect with multiple devices so purchased mx keys and it worked so well then I broke it.
After lot of youtube videos and pouring good reviews, I tried keychron k8 pro and nuphy air 75. They are good but I get typos, and a lot of connectivity issues, k8 pro's height is an issue to me, It cannot be used without a palm rest. I dint like either of these keyboards.
I was trying to buy mx mechanical keyboard for the last few months. But, every review in internet makes me double think that decision.
Your video gave me the confidence to purchase it and my typing experience is back to normal. I am subscribing to your channel as a token of appreciation :)
Keep doing this!
Hey! Did you end up buying it? If so, how has it been?
I'm kind of on the same boat, I use an apple magic keyboard for work and its great, small, light and I'm faster and make less mistakes on it. For my gaming PC I have a mechanical keyboard with cherry MX browns but I wanted to get a single keyboard for both PCs and was torn on what to get because the mechanical gives me fatigue after a while, and the height isn't desirable, and the apple magic keyboard is great but for gaming not so much and it can't even be paired to more than one device.
Samuel, thanks for doing all these keyboard reviews! Like you, I needed to buy a new keyboard, wanted it to be small, so I can carry it with me and wanted it enhance my daily work. For now I got the MX Mechanical + MX Master 3S combo. Still adjusting after years of laptop keys, but I can already feel it having a good effect on me 🙂 Cheers!
I love how genuine this is! No crap... small mistakes and all....
because of your energy i'm going to buy the Mx Keys Mechanical! (just found your channel and its great!)
subscribed after watching a bunch of keyboard videos, love the authenticity here man!
I did almost the same (minus purchasing the Keychron K3) went to pick up a mx keys and discovered the mx mechanical mini - it's amazing. I can't imagine not having this keyboard.
absolutely the same experience for me. bought a K1 as everyone was raving about it and just didn't gel with the keys and layout. Went and purchased a Logitech G815 and instantly went back to typing with accuracy and fluidity and reliability.
Thanks for the video. I just picked up the MX Mechanical full size today, and it is fantastic!
🇬🇧 👍🏽 September 2024
First video of yours I've stumbled on.
Don't know what else you cover - but I love your energy!
Subscribed!
Thank you for your honest review. So much hype and drama out there, all these guys creating click bait and "sponsored" reviews trying to make money instead of helping people. You are helping people, even though it's your own opinion and experience. If more people did this, they'd be much happier.
Totally agree, I switched from MX keys to Keychrone and it sucked, most annoying thing for me was the Bluetooth connectivity, was unusable
I use it for design and the K3v2 looks and feels great, the plastic keys feels kind of fabric/rubbery. I tried the MX mechanical but the fact I can use the K3v2 for both mac and windows helped me choose
also it's much cheaper!
MX Mechanical also works for Mac and Windows though. I've been using it that way all along.
I struggled for a month and a half with a ZSA Moonlander to learn it - was at 5 words per min when I started. I spent $300+ on it and it is the worst tech purchase I have ever made. I was so committed to it and kept using it for 8 months and suffered low productivity, low speed, etc before I got to 60 WPM. A couple of years after the purchase I still manage only 60WPM on it, while I get 90-100 WPM on a regular Macbook keyboard and on the Magic Keyboard. And now I know that all you need is a thin, low profile keyboard with low travel and hardly any noise. Your hands get used to it and there's no reason for a mechanical keyboard with long travel, big keys and a nice sound.
First video I’ve watched from you, but loving your style mate. Like the no nonsense approach and the fact that you are not really trying to put on a show, but focusing more on the content itself. Keep it up! Also - I love the Logitech MX keys mechanical! (I have the full version for work)
It pisses me off (perhaps irrationally) when TH-camrs review products but don't research their gripes and things they dislike. It's fine if you couldn't do something or didn't want to do it, but at least spend 15 minutes before spending hours on a video and provide some perspective on the issues you mentioned and how all of them can be fixed
I love people being honest, or actually know the difference between when they feel it and what people telling them to feel
I love your video style, the way you speak, present the points, your humour - thanks keyboard-review-binge that led me here :D
This is actually true. When I was on my Logitech K380, I type pretty fast. Same for the MacBook Pro 13 2020's keyboard. But when I tried one of my fave keybs the Keychron K3 v2, there was a significant difference with my typing speed. Made me slowww
Aha! I'm not the only one.
That's because different keys have more actuation force but this is just an assumption, I don't actually have an idea if why you having this problem.
I thought I was crazy. I have a MX mechanical mini and love the feel (browns). I also have a G915 TKL brown, for gaming it’s fine, but for typing, it was terrible ! Now I’m looking at a NuPhy Air 75v2 or the Lofree Flow.
I have been crying multiple times this morning watching the videos emerge from Gaza, Palestine. 0:15 made me laugh like a kid. Thank you!
same bro, was really tough watching videos from October 7 too...
I went through a couple of mechanicals, switches and keycaps before I realized a lighter tactile + XDA profile keycaps suited me best. I'm not a particularly fast at typing or anything but the difference between OEM or cherry vs. XDA was noticeable, even more so with the lighter switches. In the end what works for you is what's best, glad you found something you like.
I have similar issue, and I was wondering if that's maybe caused by OSA profile, now I know I should try XDA before giving up on Keychron, thank you for sharing.
@@KrystianLewandowski there are other profiles out there, definitely worth trying things until you find what suits you best.
I like those non enthusiasm keyboard review like me. When you want productivity to produce for family you have no time for bs
new sub. I love the no crap, realistic honesty. Just being real. Nice.
100% agree, 100% same experience. Bought a K3 with many recommendations. Love the ethos / idea behind it. Love the build quality and feel. I can't type on it to save my life. I go from 107 wpm on my Apple Magic keyboard or my MacBook Pro keyboard to around 40 wpm on the Keychron. I can't write code on it without making constant indentation and spacing mistakes, even in a really helpful IDE.
Going to check out the MX Keys Mechanical because of your video. Cheers. Have a sub.
Probably has something to do with the travel distance. The travel distance for those apple keyboards is ~1mm. The travel distance for any of the switches that come with the K3 is ~3mm(with ~1.7 pre-travel before the switch activates).
However, the MX Keys uses the same switches as the K3, so that can't be the issue. My guess is that Samuel was much faster on the MX Keys because it's flatter than the spherical key key profile on the K3.
@@TheStoic84 I think it's the width. The K3 has an extra line of keys along the right edge (Page up/down/home/end, etc). This makes all the keys a little more narrowly spaced. If I reflexively reached for the "P" key, I'd most often just hit the space between "P" and "[" because of muscle memory. The actual travel distance of the K3 wasn't bothering me at all; I was just making so many errors on it that it destroyed my flow completely.
I went from a low profile apple magic keyboard to a keychron K8, a real chunky keyboard with switches that have 4mm of travel, and... yeah... it took a while to get adjusted to it. It took a few months at least, but right now im about equal with the keychron than i am with the magic keyboard. And I wouldn't give up the keychron because its just more fun to type on.
any more development after getting the keyboard?
I did it the other way around.. Came from apple wireless keyboard (pre-magic) and lenovo trackpoint keyboard, the goal was to replace both and kept only one on my desk. In hindsight I should've probably try the mx keys first but caught a mech fever.
mx mech: seamless connection with flow, faster wake up, BUT not hot swappable. No cable mode but I don't really care about this since I already on unifying and bolt ecosystem, overall it is too expensive if I had to bought it myself.
K3: hot swappable, affordable, great even for the price. It needs some time to wake up but I can get used to it since once it wake up it wake up while mx mech sleeps a lot. My only gripe is that it's only BT or cable mode, no 2.4 rf..
Yes you can switch from mac to windows on the mx keys, i do it every day
The MX Keys Mechanical has always been my favorite but the MX Keys mini is just perfect for me.
Holy shit! I thought it was just me. I literally make a TON of typing mistakes on the Keychron K3 v2. I thought it was just a me problem until I purchased the K3 Pro. The typing experience between the two keyboards are just LEAGUES apart. I can type without worrying about making mistakes on the K3 Pro.
Had exactly the same experience. At first, I thought that I had ruined my typing habits by years of using small laptop keyboards, but, at the same time, I had no issues with regular full-size Logitech desktop keyboards. The Keychron was the issue.
@@AndrewP well but in his case, he fixed the issue by getting a different keychron, not getting away from keychron itself
@@VOVOPERADOR he meant that keychron, not referring to the brand itself.
This is it. Thanks for the review man. Last few days I was going back and forth between keychron, nuphy and akko and while almost sold on keychron, I came across your video. Yes logitech is not cute, I’d love to have one of those nuphys but the moment you mentioned bluetooth and battery life, it was game over. I immediately ordered logitech without giving a second thought. Apparently it doesn’t come with high quality cool caps and ages like a meth head, but function comes first. Thanks again!
Love your energy. Thanks for this video, I'm going for the MX keys 🥰
I watched this review before getting the keychron k3 a year ago and now I fully understand what you mean.
I had a really bad experience with the connectivity in the K3's, and I've done a lot of troubleshooting to make it better, and delt with it for about a year - No Dice.. I have had enough now of the unreliability
It would struggle to reconnect - (More than 10 seconds for me) when I'm switching between devices.
And it would have this really bad connection where it would type the same letter while im typing like - ssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
I totally get you now, ill be selling my K3's and have ordered the MX mechanical Mini.
I just found your channel and I love how genuine you are. Subscribed!
I also purchased the MX Keys Mechanical using your affiliated link as a way to show my support. :)
I think it is not just the travel/actuation distance that might be giving him the issue since he loved other low profile ones like Nuphy and Lowfree, I think the suspect is the angled keycaps. The keychron k3 has a weird keycap profile that is tapered away from you which is uncommon for keyboards and I found myself having to angle my wirst over it quite a lot insead of having it hover above the keyboard. Take a look at images or videos to notice the reverse tapering of these keys!
New subscriber… I absolutely loved this video. No BS, honest review and funny too. Can’t wait to check out more of your videos my friend.
Amazing, finally someone that uses keyboards as tools, not as toys.
Same for me. I had K7.
Swapped it back out for a Mac keyboard ...
Might have to try the mx mechanical keyboard ..
I liked the K3 but the dealbreaker for me was the battery dying after just one year and having no option to replace it; and this seems to be a know problem for all K3 Ultra-slim models.
What? its replaceable and the same issues happen on many batteries, in ex. even Macbook laptops.
It probably isn't just about practice and getting used to it either. I've been using normal-profile mechanical keyboards for over 6 years now, and have averaged 80-85wpm. One day I stepped into a store and tried a MacBook - 100+ first try. Have been using it since as the primary keyboard. Great to know there are others who prefer these keyboards as well! I have been brainwashed by the mechanical supremacist media into keeping mine and trying to fit in.
Feel it. I'm using the MX mechanical now. I had also the MX Keys before like you and I loved this Keyboard. But I love it more to type with the mechanical and I'm faster the with the MX Keys. It makes me more fun to use the MX mechanical
100%%%% More fun with 5 - 10 wpm speed loss. I'll just lose the 5 - 10wpm and stick with the fun keyboard haha. I'm testing linear switches with another keyboard, stay tuned for a review soon.
Mx mechanical is very nice, but the 5 s to turn off backlight is completely destroying my experience. What about you? I haven’t found a way to get rid of it (just using the cable connected to the keyboard, but I don’t know if it damage the battery).
i use both mechanical mini and full size mx keys for work and productivity i can bet nothing beats mx keys s it is accurate fast and shortcuts are amazing and I feel like I can easily go above 100 wpm on it
This is EXACTLY my experience with my K3. I'm done with it now.
Good to know we’re not alone. Check out my other keyboard videos in order from this one.
Man I really loved the way you made this video... love it!
You are a very funny guy and I love the way you explained the whole things including technical details... Keep up the good work and congratulation for your work!
Thank you and See you soon!
I don't understand, what do you think is the reason you lost speed?
Key placement, too hard to press keys?
great observation brother. Love your honest content about products.. keep making more contents
love the honesty! i have the same problem with keychron K2, I loved it, but my typing speed was low, so, sold it cheap. now back with my apple keyboard. planning on mx keys :) . Thanks for your video.
Why do you think you were slower on keychron? deeper key travel? or hard to punch keys? Asking because I am seriously interested in buying a keychron.
I completely agree with everything you said about the keycrhon. Very hard to type on. The Logitech is so satisfying. I love the sound and feel of the keys.
I've had the K3 for about two years now and it's great, but now my battery only lasts like 3 hours and I am using it with a cable. No issues with that, but I have a need to work on MAC and Windows and the fact that I need to switch it to a certain setting is irritating me as well as the fact that the bluetooth is slow. Thinking of getting the MX Keys Mech mini for the bluetooth, no manual switch between MAC & Windows and the Flow pair up with my MX Master mouse. This review helped a lot thanks man!
I have an Alienware mechanical keyboard and it's very difficult to get any kind of speed from it! My fingers always are hitting adjacent keys causing typos. Thanks for the review. I think I may try the MX Keys.
same! im coming from keychron, also a nuphy but truly enjoy the MX keys mechanical. nuphy a close 2nd but truly on preference
I have the Mx Keys, just bought the Keychron while watching your video. Just when you said it SUCKED the payment went through... Lol
I don't have the K3, because I don't like low-profile keyboards, but I have the K2 and the K8. I haven't judged my speed vs. other keyboards, but it seems to be fast enough. The one thing I'd point out is that you don't have to have it fall asleep. It can stay on. There's a hotkey sequence to make it always-on.
Love it! I don’t care about how the keys sound or colors or anime women or random stuff. It’s all about the typing experience. The K3 (non-pro) was also giving me carpal tunnel.
I use the Mechanical Keys Mini as well on the go
You have a really good point. Typing speed and accuracy is what should matter the most and not how it sounds like since we're all wearing headset anyways...
Until you have someone else in the room or during a call and the blue switches sound like a construction site noises when they have a headache. Not that it matters for this video, but noise can be important
yeah if you work in an office sure but for home PC its less of a problem. Though if you play online games and your microphone pics it up then yeah thats also a problem @@bleack8701
I love Keychron's ability to switch from cable to Bluetooth (something I wish Logitech could implement with their MX Mechanical) but man Keychron's Bluetooth is ANNOYING. great coverage on the your experience my guy!
I had a similar experience with the K3, I believe my issue was the fact that the rows of keys are stepped like a staircase on the K3 (angled stems). I've got a NuPhy Air75 V2 now, and I type much faster on it. All of the keycap top surfaces are in plane. This seems to be the case with the MX Keys Mechanical. Maybe that's why you're much faster on it.
Using MX mechanical mini for mac for almost a year. No regrets.
I did the same switch and I can tell you 2 things
1. Keychron wakeup handling suxx specially on Bluetooth
2.mx keys mech brown uses one of the best switches on the market
It is simply superior specially with 2.4ghz and it buffers keys so you don't need to wait at all
It simply is the best is not your problem
Keychron maybe better with 2.4ghz or cable
I'm currently looking for a keyboard and also realized I type fast on mac book keyboard .This video helped a lot .
I just bought an mx mechanical after watching this, I had the keychron k3. good video!
Love your honesty. good luck
93 here - first try on 10 fast fingers with the K3 (100 on the 2nd try with the feet stands half-way out). Accuracy 95.95%
LOL GOLD LUCK with Keychron warranty and support
First and the last brand i will buy
Great review! I might have the same problem as you. Also, for some reason, my wrist started hurting using this keyboard (PS, this is personal experience, not a claim)
Nice review, have a sub. I actually quite like this keyboard - but as a programmer my requirements are for precision and a much heavier reliance on things like tabs and symbols rather than speed so it suits me fine. I'm also a gamer so I have an inherent distrust of anything wireless, so running it over bluetooth never even ocurred to me. Finally, as a Brit our options are much more limited with keyboards as we have our own special layout and I cant unprogram 30 years of expecting the return key to be double height and using a US layout drove me absolutely mental.
I really really like the Apple keyboard a lot, but it's always a bit off if you aren''t using a Mac - and i'm primarily Windows or Linux.
Have tried the even smaller keyboards, but end up wanting to smash them against the wall as function keys and arrow keys are a cut too far and completely essential for writing code unless you are some kind of nutcase that does everything in Vim
Edit: One big downside for me that it's really difficult to source Low Profile keycaps, especially in a UK layout. The ones included aren't bad but feel a bit silky and would prefer some nicer ones with a bit more texture to them and in a couple of extra colours so I could pick out important keys for like WASD and Blender in a different tone as am not a touch typer and visual cues help my fingers land on the right place.
So what did you choose? Keychron k3?
@@Benson.BereTV obviously yes, brownish switches
Anyone else stumble upon this video to validate their poor experience with keychron kb's? LOL. Nice video man.
Hahaha. Keychron watched this video and they want me to try their best keyboard.. Should I?
Mine is travelling to home actually, I think I will love it for all the reasons you hate it 😭
Thanks, was kinda on the fence wondering if I should pull the trigger and you’ve convinced me not to. 😂 You’re also hilarious. Subbed for the jokes!!
I agree. I bought a Keychron K5 Pro and I sort of hate it. I just need a flat keyboard. If Apple made a keyboard with gaps between each four F-keys so they're easier to blindly find, there's be no competition at all.
Logitech use Logibolt which is proprietary tech borrowed from their gaming device.
Thats why its so seamless.
I have the K3 for a while now. Typing sucks but it's nice, small and functional.
Hi, friend. I apologize for my English, I typed it in a translator. I also bought a K3 V2 from KeyChron, I am also pleased with the assembly and backlight, but also the typing on the keyboard is slower than on the apple magic keyboard. The most irritating thing is its short battery life (about 2-3 days with backlight) and problems with communication, it often loses, it’s true. But I stayed on K3, tried the Logi MX mini, which is in the video, an excellent keyboard, but it seemed too big and sweeping, and the backlight also worked strangely, which is not adjustable and turns on only in the dark. As a result, I'm looking towards NePhy to replace the apple magic keyboard. Oh, yes, the keys in Keychron also begin to creak over time, which is also annoying. P.S. Im a not keyboard guy too! :) Peace.
I’ve only used Apple Magic Keyboards for the last decade. But I recently ordered 4 different keyboards during a sale including the K3. I’m now super torn about keeping it, or returning it. I love basically everything about it, however it feels like it’s fighting me just a little when I type on it. I bought a used K2 V1 and that feels far smoother. Ah! I can’t decide.
I agree... I wanted so badly a keychron before... After getting the MX keys mini (not mechanical) I'm not sure so much if i want to swap it. The MX keys swaps so fast from computer to computer. It has a beautiful build, feels so solid and heavy. Price range to keychron is the same, but i think i would rather have 2 mx than a mx and a keychron
Actually, I thinks that's the MX Mechanical MINI.
There's a fair hike in price changing from Keychron, so test drive before purchase if you can.
It makes sense. Longer travel distance per button = slower typing speed. Short travel keyboards, like the magic laptop keyboard, will always be faster than mechanical keyboards.
wow...., that was the best hardware review i ever watched....
I went through many different keyboards. I eventually ended on Keychron. I like it the best.
It's probably the keycaps. Keychron K3 has rounded keycaps, so if you are used to hitting the edges of the keys, the large grooves in-between will punish you for it. As for the sleep-wake issue, I have heard that it is a problem for many K3 users, but I bought the next-gen K3 Max and the issue seems to be fixed.
The epitome of exaggeration: 80 wpm becomes 30, 4 second wake-up becomes 10, etc. Seriously though, good video. Especially for those of us who aren’t “keyboard snob” and aren’t in-the-know with all mechanical keyboard lingo.
The Keychron "Pro" models don't come with 2.4 Ghz wireless. You need the "Max" models to get the dongle.
You got the brown swtiches, that's the problem, it sucks. Get the other switch options and also get the PRO QMK/VIA version for a better experience.
I’ve experience something similar with the Nuphy Air v2 after coming from an Apple Keyboard for many years… am wondering if it’s just me or if the keys are too close on the Nuphy. Also, glad this wasn’t sponsored… that is always a big put-off! May try the MX-keys, too! SUBBED
Honest review thank you, I’ll pick one Logitech mechanical
Sounds like you need linear switches. What it seems like is that you haven’t gotten used to the long keypresses and something like a keyboard with gateron baby raccoons would significantly increase typing speeds due to its light springs and long pole.
I recently bought a ke pro. What i think is that because the keycaps are tilted the other way from the user plus it's high height, you'll have to get an arm rest of a paper towel while typing. Orr follow my cursed setup and keep it on your lap
Mate, just grabbed an mx mechanical mini to replace my K3 with a dying arrow key because of your video!
The problem is that you got the low-profile keyboard. I have the same one and I regret buying it. I went to for the normal-profile, and I was blown away. Give it a try. Keychron keyboards are just amazing.
Which is the normal profile?
My first kb was a k8 pro from keychron. Second time I tried to customize it, it wouldn't turn on. Now I always go for the budget stuff while my keychron lies dead in my drawer. A lot of great options besides keychron.
"press F to pay respect"
baby:
In the clip you showcase promo material of the K3 pro, while you've been using K3. Coincidentally, I too had this Keychron K3, and was hyped over it when I ordered it, but when it arrived I had the same problem you describe - it wasn't fast and accurate typing experience. I attributed it to the shape of the keys themselves (they have a substantial concave compared to most keyboards), and the ridges between keycaps are bigger too (effectfively making the keycap smaller).
However, I've changed it to K3 pro, which has keycap shape similar to the logitech keyboards, and it's all very good experience with this one. I was totally digging the extremely well visible RGB lighting of the Keychron K3, though.
Not sure how important it is to normal typing, but I've found the k3 has an absurdly slow scan rate, meaning pressing two keys within an incredibly short timespan causes a delay on the second press. I use mine for gaming mostly so it's a bit more important there.
This is how everyone should reviewing their stuff!
Lol I have no idea what I'm talking about as a non-keyboard enthusiast. Thanks for the support.
Always loved the Apple magic keyboard, got the mx keys and now looking for a different one, since i really have trouble with the key longevity. Thanks for reviewing, still sceptical about the mx mechanical, but considering it
I am exactly the same and we are, defintely, not the same build type. I type very fasts on the macbook's keyboard, the apple wireless keyboard and the MX keys but I utterly suck on most of the mech keyboards that I have tried so far.
I have the K5 and I have been waiting for my speed to be what im used to… im not going crazy
love the humour and I watched the entire video and I am buying an mx mechanical on Black Friday
Nooooo wait! I have a video coming up on Thursday with another keyboard. You want to watch it before buying mx keys.
Exactly the same here. I tried it for 3 weeks now and I just couldn't get warm with it. Just wrapped it up to send it back, back to the MX Keys Mini
I'm using the MX Mechanical at work daily, love the most of it, but the function keys are so close to each others, after over a year, I still having trouble, always miss the key, same as the numpad...