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- In today's DIY Electric Skateboard Build Tutorial, we dive into ESK8 Motors. Learn how to choose a motor for your DIY Electric Skateboard build. Today we go over what the numbers mean, how to size a motor, what KV ratings are, and more information on brushless motors. At the end of this video you should be able to choose between belt driven and hub motors, and be able to decide what size is best for you.
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6355 MOTOR: geni.us/Ka8VLH6
6374 MOTOR: geni.us/sEHIb
70MM HUB MOTORS: geni.us/BARTUJg
90MMHUB MOTORS: geni.us/4o21
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What Motor set up would you pick? Why? We’d love to hear 😎
I think you glossed over one important thing... dual motor vs single motor braking. Dual motor is going to bring you to a stop quicker which if you are going faster than 20mph is vital imo. It also provides a failsafe if one belt snaps under hard acceleration/braking.
I still have my hub motors from my meepo board but I am looking at a direct drive system in the far future. They are new and expensive so I'm not surprised you didn't include them in this video. Plus you don't sell them 😜
I already knew all this information but wanted to see how you explained it plus your videos are relaxing. Great job!
Thanks for the comment! You are absolutely right, definitely should have mentioned the failsafe of having a 2nd belt just in case.
Also should have mentioned the faster stopping power of a 2nd motor.
Didn’t mention direct drive because they honestly deserve their own video all together. Just too few options out there along with the higher price point.
Thanks for watching!
can u do a skate with motors?
@@mavic5149 just a skateboard deck no problem.. skateboard wheels with motor possible but makes no sense because you cant really skate nd trick anymore and the speed nd torque of the electric would be bad ;)
Single belt 6374 for the win ;) but soon i try the 90mm hubs on 10s :D
I love how informative you are and that you stick to the point. Much respect for you my dude
Excellent! Informative, succinct, easy to understand, even for a non-techie.
Very helpful video thanks for the info. I appreciate the replaceable wheel skin, for a downhill or freeride skater the wheel can be much smaller after a day of skating. If a race on a motorized skateboard is anything like downhill you could have some sick burnout drift races. Also some induro aspects to long distance races. Regenerative braking for charging the battery? Very interesting prospects.
So useful, thanks for these breakdowns of parts
Looking at making my own longboard thank you for the information this definitely will help me.
Great video really helped me understand what im getting into
i love how honest you are.
awesome video!! great job. I mean you already told us these informations, but a seperate video with it is better and the informations are more understandable
Finally good content on esk8 DIY. Subbed for my future project. :)
Appreciate that man!
Thanks for the showcase in motors. I'm curious if you have thought of the magnet length inside the motors? There are long motors which aren't intended for skateboard use but people shoehorn them in for powerful braking and regen. ie. Instead of 6355 its 63 and the length is 80 really weird but it works with wide trucks
Hey, this was very helpful. Thank you
I subscribed just because you put so much work into every video thank you :)
Thank you! We really appreciate it!
Excellent video,, very educational!
Good stuff motivates me to get started
Thank you for this briefing. Lot of useful information for some new like me. I'm in the process of converting a mountain board for street use.
That’s awesome man! Glad we could help!
excellent information, thank you
Excellent video. Looking to build my first DIY (already have meepoV2) I think you have made my decision on belt motors 👌🏼
Glad we could help!
thank you so much for this video
That was super helpful!
Excellent video !!!
thanks for the information
Clean video really nice!
Excellent video.
This video is exactly what i was after. Thank you
Glad we could help!
Thank you. This was the first video ive watched describing the meaning of different numbers on motors and facts about difference between hub and belt. Now im ready to start buying parts for my diy.
Super informative 👌🤙
very nicely explained
Ty for the info🤙
Do you know if there is anyway I could swap out the hub motors on my halo board and replace them with dual belt motors without having to get a new ESC and a new battery?
Thanks for putting this info out there
Absolutely! Thanks for watching!
Really appreciate the video. This was exactly what I was looking for. I have a Lacroix Jaws 2.0 with stock 6389 190 kv motors but need new motors and trying to figure out which way to go. Currently belt driven but planning to put on the Boardnamics M1-AT Gear Drive. When you say 2 types of motors; Belt and hub motors. The belt motors include the gear drives and not only the belt drives, yes? Any idea which motors would be equivalent to my currents as far as speed, torque, range, price, sound? And which would you recommend if I wanted to go to the next step up motor? I'm currently looking at the Flipsky 6384 190kv motors. Thank you!
Hey man this is a great video... I am a mechanical engineering student trying to make my own board. However I am not that great at eletrical stuff and I would like to know how to get the appropriate battery (and which type) for the motor we have chosen. I know there's big differences between lithium ion, lipo batteries but considering i want range and speed as well how do I chose what kind of battery and how many of them (lithium ion) would I need to be able to get enough power out of them to get to specific speeds. I knew my question is weird I just hope you understand it.
Great video btw from a scientific point of view it helps a lot when you want to get a lot more technical.
Apreciate this video so much Mike! Just as many of your other videos, you do so well on making it simple and easily understandable. I just have one doubt. I am making an e-mountainboard, considering lower kv makes for better torque, will a 140kv 6374 motor, 8 inch wheels with an Mboards 10s 3p give me good hill climbing performance?
Hi! Yes that would make for a solid build! If you can swing it, I’d go for the 10s4p for that extra amp output.
Well done bro. Good advice.
Thanks for watching!
Great video😎
Yeah
Thanks for answering my question
This helps I recomend this.
Hey, i liked you detailed video but got some queries. Can 6374 180kv/6384 120kv motor be used for quadcopter rather than skateboard? can you please explain how much cogging torque they have? Can they be modified into diy digital Servo motor using encoder.?🤔
Ur so nice,you’re worrying about us underwhelming
Thanks man
Do you know where I can buy replacement wheels for a hub motor I want to upgrade it to all terrain wheels .
So i have a possway v4, im trying to upgrade the wheels. Can i put 83mm hub motor into a 90mm pu sleeve?
can u post a video about the controller and other stuff regarding the brain of the board it would be helpful
Very interesting. My board has hub , 3000 watt total,35 kph 25 k range, and goes up 25 percent hill. I would like more speed and keep the hill climbing. Looking around at options it seems to be a case of gain on one and pay with another. On the sound side of things, I just love my Razor longboard. It may only be 120-watt gear drive but that sweet turbine-like scream, the best. My 3000 watt total is a Black Hawk Electric Pro series V3.
Id love you option on specs/price of the 2020 Verreal rs Thank you :)
im building a rc art piece that im looking to upgrade the drivetrain to these. can i use rc batteries with these motors or are they not rated for this level of discharge?
Nice & Thanks :)
Hey, I watch a lot of your videos, and I wanted to build one too..... my basic needs are
1 I need to conquer hills
2 need long range
3 I need to go fast
The order above is 312
Have you got any details on the sensor wires how they work and what they do
Great video!
One question. Why do the range deceases with two motors? battery? if it is that, would it be solved by making the battery bigger?
Thanks for the tutorials!
Even though each motor only needs to pull half the weight, the natural inefficiencies lead to more power draw.
Increasing the battery size would add range 👍🏻
Perfect video 🔥🔥😍. I got a motor laying around that has perfect size but 530kv. Do you guys think it wouldn't be that great for a build?
I'm 140ibs and I have a 400kv. 400kv is kinda slow. Looks fast but slow
Looking to build a jet surf board, do you know anything about the motors they use, I hear they can use skateboard motors...280kv? I would assume larger better.?....I’m very ignorant about motors,controllers,batteries etc, but have built several boards, and boats😬
Is the dual 70mm hub motors compatible with 36v battery?
And is a battery 108Wh (36v,3Ah) strong enough to drive a single 5055 belt motor?
Good vid, should have more subs imho.
Question, I have a liftboard single Motor and want to replace the Motor to something more powerful and faster. Is this possible? Please help.
Good video bro.🤘
Thanks for watching!
If I already have an electric board but it sucks on hills, is there a simple way I could just change the motor and keep the same battery?
do these have regenerative breaking or would they be too inefficient on drag? like would it work only downhill? Or would you be able to coast on flat without any? because it seems like you should literally be able to push it back to 100% lol.
Does anyone know any good hubmotors for an either 9s4p or 12s3p battery with 3.7v per cell?
Which direct drive motor has the least wheel rotation resistance without power (eg. Battery goes totally flat) so that I can continue to push / pump like a normal skateboard?
thank you, this is really helpful
Hi . I need a motor that has a minimum speed of 1000 RPM and high torque and operates 12v or 24v DC . What do you advise me and thank you
I currently have a Verreal V1S and a Blitzart Hurracane dual motor.Both decent budget boards that have served me well but I would like to convert one of them to belt drive because I would like to run the rough stuff wheels.
What kit could I buy that would work with one of those boards batteries and esc?
Thanks
If your current board is using HUB motors you’ll most likely need to change the ESC out as well (many ESCs are programmed for either HUB or belt).
Just be sure to get an ESC that works with your current battery’s voltage.
nice!!!
Are the belt driven boards louder because of the belt or because of the high rpm of the motor? At what rpm does the motor become audible to bystanders? Hate when people are looking at me because my board makes so much noise.
Is anyone still around to give some advice??
I'm looking at resurrecting an old electric scooter and thinking of popping a 4000w 6384 motor in there. At 36W a 4000w motor will draw 111A which is far too much for the battery I will be using. Am I best off limiting the current draw to something like 70A or buying a smaller 6368 motor that is 1750W?
Could you make a video about VESCTool? Not about how to set it up, there are enough of those.
But all the other settings in the tool. There is so much to customise, but there are no tutorials.
Yes we’d love to make a video exploring the VESC tool.
This is great but what about motor watts? I've seen high motor watts with a low KV rating and lower motor watts with higher KV rating.
Question: you’re mentioning KV rating and how it relate to motor description/classification…what if you see a classification in watts…such as 800w….1300W and so on. How do you evaluate those?
yo mboard electronic guy here, the 2 motor you sale in the description have diferent power rating wut same internal resistance ... can we have a full data sheet with curent limit, votalge....
Is that a stoke in the background?? Bloody love my stoke!!
Hey man, can you make a video explaining how to use the BLDC tool to configure a VESC? I think this is kind of a grey area that hasn't been covered yet.
Maybe I can provide some useful info to you
Can you do a video on hoverboard motors and the vesc tool
Hello. Great video. So i have been wanting an electric skateboard sins I first saw that they existed (never even been able to try one sadly) so I have been wanting to convert my Globe Bantham Cruiser which is really short. So i was wondering if you think it even possible when its that short and also made of plastic? And if yes would the Hub or Belt be better? I do want to add that its only for asphalt driving, want to be able to go uphill but dont have to go super fast up 😆 also can i buy which ever battery, controller etc or if I need to make sure its compatible what should I look for? Would really appreciate the help 😁
Hey brother!
Shoot us an email here: support@mboards.co
We’ll help you put together a complete part list!
Need a ROHS Ru94UpE253642Y-D circuit board , just taken this out of my oneWheel ..
Where can I buy these. circuit boards...thx
Would it be possible to use two different motors for something like an electric skateboard? As an example, 130kv for torque and 220kv for speed? Would you need a slipper on the lower kv motor for when the speed goes over it’s limit? Thanks
Pointless. Just get a 600kv
Hi there.
Wandering what the advantages/differences between Mayteck 6396 and 8085?
Well by the numbers, the 6396 would be longer but skinnier than the 8085.
It’s hard to say which one would perform the best.
I would recommend a 63xx motor simply due to the compatibility for motor mounts.
I can make up missing KV or overkill of an KV via gearing right? Will there be a difference between 2 same motors one being 200 kv and my gearing being 1/2 and another motor 100 kv my gearing being 1/1? Is one a better option than the other?
you'd have to look at specs to get a definitive answer, but any time you add reductions there will be some amount in inefficiency, that could be fairly high or quite low.
Thank youuuuuu 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻
Ou je peux avoir le kit complet svp merci
Seriously awesome videos dude, this was an instant subscribe for me!
How important is wattage of the motor?
The 6374 on your site has Max. Power: 3250W
The 6374 on another site has Max Power of 4000W
It’s important but at the end of the day, the battery you’ll end up using will be the bottle neck. Not the motor. It really won’t make a difference when dealing with wattages this high.
Mostly 6374 is 3200 watt. And 400p is 6384 motor
Can the motor work for any esc
Hey Mike, loving the videos. Inspires me to try making my own board.
I have a question tho, if I would make my own board I would be using 2 x 6355 190 Kv motors with a 12S3P Battery. But is that battery strong enough for 2 x 2450 Watt motors?
Thanks in advance.
Samuel
How did this go?
@@sirtimatbob Bought a board instead haha
@@samueldemeyer8521 lol. Can't blame ya, seems a journey of research and work.
For the future to who mind find this comment and has the same question; the wattage of the motor is a peak value. The motor doesn't draw this power from the battery, the ESC and battery are the bottleneck here. You could, in theory, make this motor spin with some triple A batteries but will only get the power the battery can supply.
@@ericvauwee4923 thanks for the reply mate. I ended up buying 2 boards and tore my ACL 1,5 years ago 🥹🫠😂
Are the belt motors water proof or resistant?
I need a NEW MOTOR for my 20v DEWALT STRING TRIMMER 1st Gen
where can I find belt motor with barrel plugs?
What happens if I get a hub motor that's 70kv? Does it have less torque?
I was surprised you didn't mention 4 belt driven motors for off road boards. I've seen a few 4wd boards and they look cool.
Yes that’s definitely an option as well! 😎
Motor mounts are universal?
Ok thanks
Would you recommend getting a cheap £15 cruiser board and wheels. Then spend a decent amount on the electric components fix it on the board? im looking for in between torque speed and noise
You just want to be careful when getting trucks and wheels. You want to make sure that you can find a motor joint that will fit your trucks and a pulley that will fit your wheels 👍🏻
Hey ? Just wondering if you know how long it would take to deliver to Canada from that website
All of our estimated shipping times are shown at check out 👍🏻
Okay my question to you guys For somebody who weighs over 400 lb I was thinking about all-wheel drive electric board that's for sure longboard so I can put some extra batteries on it I would like to know what will be the prices on motors for belt driven Will be a better option for me because I could change the size of the wheels when I need you
Hey brother!
Shoot us an email here: support@mboards.co
We can help you with a custom parts list or make a custom build for you 👍🏻
What KV is better for a motor. Higher or Lower for more power and speed? Great video
Higher KV = Higher top speed
Lower LV = More Torque
I used a 190kv motor in my build and it gets me up a 17% grade hill accelerating. Motor is a 6364 keda 190kv from hobbyking. It cost me £38 and seems to perform well.
Can any of this motors be controlled by arduino nano microcontroller?
Which is better for speed and torque both high
What if we equip both speed motor and torque motor and use only one at a time. We can switch on remote control for which motor to run according to requirements. Lol.
What motors do you recommend for an evolve bamboo gt? Would love to get some more speed! Great video👍👍👍
Looks like the stock motors are 5065 150kv motors.
You’ll probably need to stick with 50mm motors if you aren’t planning on changing the motor mounts. You’ll want to look for a higher KV if you are looking for some more speed.
Ok, thank you !!!
electricboardsolutions.com/products/evolve-motor-mount-pair mount for 63 motor for your evolve, and i recomend maytech 6374 motors evolve should use one of this original almoust no one use this small evolve motors any more they are biggest problem with this evolve boards if you are heavy 80kg+ or ride offroad a lot i think they just hmm very hot, right ?
O my god my name is Mike beard also.you just got a new subscriber