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- Batteries are an essential part to every DIY electric skateboard build. With battery packs our electric skateboards aren't going anywhere. The process of choosing which battery is right for you can be a little complicated, so hopefully this video clears a few things up for everyone.
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Nice video man! Very helpful!
THIS MAN NEEDS LIKE 1 MIL SUBS
Hey these videos are helping me a lot thank you for taking the time and posting this stuff for everyone to see!
Very helpful videos, i appreciate the thoroughness. Im trying to repair my swag-board single hub. I took it all apart and checked the esc, battery and all the wires, and everything looks good. I put it all back together and it charged up and connected to the remote. I can hear it try to turn on in the motor a few times, before the wheel does a small jump and then everything dies. The board doesn't have much use, there is minimal wear so I'm thinking its a battery problem. Is there a doable fix?
Mechanical engineer here:
Here is my simple guide for picking the battery from what i learned researching this topic.
If you want speed and power and don't give a damn for longevity -> Lipo batteries. (lipos are a fire hazard and must be stored in fire proof bags)
Their instant power output is way higher than Li-ion.
Instant power can be calculated with:
Watts = V(battery max voltage) x Amp/hour (The 4 digit number on the battery pack casing) x "C" (the discharge rate of the lipo battery), e.g; Consider the lipo battery with 11.1V 2000mah 60C.
11.1V x 2A (SI of 2000 mah is 2A) x 60 =1332 watts of instant power when it is fully charged, that's 1.3 kW of electrical power, but this quickly goes down as the battery voltage goes down fast due to the C rating.
If you want convenience of charging and long cruises -> Li-ion battery packs.
Usually these battery packs come pre-assembled with in-built BMS, they have a lower "C" (2-5 depending on technology used and manufacturer) discharge rating, but offer a longer trip, they take more time to drop their voltage since the C is lower.
There is no middle ground to these 2 options. Yet.
I'm not trying to be annoying or snobby. When i got started in this hobby i wished i'd already knew this.
Excellent channel dude, good way to make sales!
How does this man only have 5.5k subs such high quality videos keep up the good work love the videos.
Thank you so much 🙌🏻
;)
Hey Mike. Is it possible that you could make a video on making enclosures, thanks.
Look up Kydex. It's heat shrink hard plastic in sheets. Looks PERFECT for the task but nobody Ever mentions it?... You can do it in your home oven. Looks dope.
@@scottmichael3745 thank you so much, I had actually found it a few days ago and was going to do that. Thank you so much though.
@@Vikram-yg9we Solid! Share pics of your build. I'd love to see them. :-)
Vikram Puri check out Psychotiller’s enclosures.
GOOD IDEA
Hey MBoards I like this series, it has some good quality like wow. Btw lipos can also be charged by a BMS so you dont have to unplug the Lipo's everytime when charging, I have it also in my setup like this. Lipo and Lion do have their own dis- and advantages but they can be charged simulary.
Yes 100% agree. We do mention the ability to wire a BMS to lipos in the video 👍🏻 Thanks for watching!
Hey man, how you charge with bms your lipos ? thanks
Hi mboards i need to buy 2 lipo 6s turnigy so can i use one charger to charge them at same time ? And what adaptators to buy for charge them ?
Hey Mike, does voltage of battery say 12s vs 10s or does motor size matter more when it comes to performance? I have a prebuilt board with a 12s battery and small 5055 motors. If I were to build a skateboard with 6354 motors at 2500 watts and 190kv but with a 10s3p battery do you reckon i’d be able to get much more torque?
@Mboards, have you ever thought about using 21700 batts? and thank you for the video best explication so far and i have seen many videos.
Hey Mike I’ve been watching your videos because I am putting together an electric skateboard. I am just wondering if a Li-ion Battery 36V 6Ah 10S2P Rechargeable fit for 250W would be a good battery?
Dude this videos are awesome!
Hey Mike, great content! In the early planning of a 12s10p eMTB, wondering if you can point out any difficulties with a high discharge battery like this?
I'm currently making a 12s10p battery, it's not a pretty big battery I doubt it would work good for a electric board but I'm making mine for a electric scooter
So wanting to try my first build. And even make the battery pack my self and 3d print case. I'm wondering what kind of set up would u recommend. I'm not needing a lot of speed but do want long distance and torch. I'm wanting to do a long bored and am around 250 pounds and wanting to use belt motor also probably 2. If u could help would appreciate it thanks.
If u could help that would be great
Hey Mike! I just want to ask how to put the battery sensor and the charging ports for my DYI, it would be nice if you'll make a Video of that.
Thanks in Advance
I’ve 2 12v acid lead batteries that are dead and wanted to change with new batteries. Which one you recommend? Anything else I need to check??sorry but I’m really really newbie
OCT 2020: Thanks for deciphering this, valuable information so sure. Would 10S3P in a row of three connected in Series work as an e-bike battery pack? Would I be able to charge them with an appropriate LiPo charger (if there is such a thing). Nice one MBoards.
Hey Mike. I was looking at an ESC on amazon and it says it is 36v with current 12a. Does this mean that it can hold a 10s battery? thanks
Hi, I'm looking at building my first board.
I am building a dual 6380 AT is it possible to put 2x 6s4p batteries connected in series to create a 12s4p and if so is it possible to charge them together as they have a BMS installed in the pack, or do they need another BMS to send the charge to each battery?
Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Josh
Hi. I'm curious what you think about the ownboard mini and thier Samsung 4.0ah and 6.0ah battery
Hey Mike, so I am still doing research about making my own eBoard. I came across "Samsung 40T 21700 4000mAh 35A Battery", what are your input on that battery? From what I see on the Mboards website, the Samsung 25R and 30q are mainly used. But they have lesser capacity and output, however this battery has higher capacity and output. Would this also be good? If you can please provide reasons as to why you say so.
I'm very close to purchasing a 10s3p 9ah battery kit from Mboards but I need to know if this system will work with a Mototec 800w street skateboard. It has the same configuration as an FIIK Big Daddy 800w just smaller wheels. I know I would need to strip the wires and add a connector that will fit into the the connector that comes with that kit. I just need to know if there's anything else that needs to be done, or if it's just as easy as replacing the old SLA atteries and add the new connector. Any advice would be appreciated 🙏
Hello mate for a range like above 30 miles what do you recomend?or its there such a thing?
Very useful channel. Wish more people were into electric skateboards so you’d have more subs. Still a great channel none the less
Trying to grow the community one rider at a time! Welcome!
Hi, I am building a skateboard with 2 2300w motors 270kv, could you tell me what the best battery will be for long distance and hills, thank you.
Hello. I recently purchased a KuickWheel Serpent-C Micro E-board and I wanted to upgrade the battery so I can get longer range. Would I have to upgrade the ESC in relation to it too?
I’m building my own board running a single 6374 190kv brushless motor with 24volt ESC and two 5000mah 6s 60c Lipo batteries. Do you think that’s a good combination?
With the LiPo batteries since you have to unplug to charge them up could you just carry spares with you fully charged and change on the spot? Cheers for the videos thus far as well mate has really helped out with alot of the decisions
with a decent charger you can charge up to 6 of those batteries at a time also.
Do you have batteries in stock, and is it possible to pick up locally in Vegas? Thanks
What do you think of Nissan leaf cells in a backpack for a super long distance ev with super fast charge?
Can you please make a video on how to use the castle creations mamba xl2 esc I have one but not sure how to use it yet
hey im new to the DIY board game and i have baught a Electric Skateboard Longboard Control with Remote Dual Motor ESC Upgrade DIY Kit
and i was wondering what battery i should get
I have a couple of lipo batteries they’re 4s 7400mah 90burst
Would this be ok if I were to wire them in series?thanks
Btw I just ordered the Meepo V3 with 6.5ESC would it fine if I use the lipo batteries I have?thanks
Could you lead me to the right direction of which battery is best for extending the range of my boosted board dual it has the standard range now
I bought a Backfire g2s second hand and i think the battery might be dead/effected only get about 20% of the range, can i just replace it with any commonly used battery and it will work?, are there any you recommend? the board is great speed is fine just want minimum 10mile range and I'm getting about 2mile atm
I’m using a 6473 / 190kv and just bought a 6S4P MBoard battery pack with a VESC 4.12. Is this enough battery to do the job? Any advice for a newbie?
how many kms i can ride with Turnigy 5000mAh 5S 20C Lipo Pack?? Please answer. And wwhat ESC I would use?
I think, it maybe a good idea to add more details in your store. A specially in battery section. It will be very helpful if write the size, weight, maximum current drowning from the package, etc
i just bought a battery from you soley because of these videos... good job
Hello I just watched your video and now im confused. I have electric skateboard with Lithium Ion battery Installed and I was about to add another LI-PO battery to increase the capacity. Is it a good idea or It will eventually break it?
Hey Mike great videos. New subscriber and new to Eboards. My question is would I be able to use a battery pack from say a Milwaukee drill. I have two batteries 18 volt 72 Watt hours/4000 mah. I believe these would work fine. Just thinking about the controller would one of your regular ESC work? Or would a vesc be safer for the batteries?
Li po and li on dosnt have the same voltage per cell.
Lipo fully charge are 4.2 V....li on are 3. 8 V
10S Lipo = 42.V @ 50C.....verse li on 38v @ 20C....will yeah the lipo
will go faster with twice the punch all day long.lol
what you're asking about is the DISCHARGE RATE. ( C ratings)
Lipo batteries has Higher discharge rate Options than Li on.
The ESC has Voltage ratings on them...The Higher the amps...the better.
Esc gets Hots (expensive)..
It depends what MOTOR..you're using. The Motor will draw power.
You dont want any of it to fry...Too much voltage to the motor will
damage the motor....crappy C rating will damage the batteries and poor performance.
You need to READ the SPEC on ALL of it..
Drill batterys are probably 20C-30 C at most...Most people dont run drills for
10-15 min continuously. You do not want li on cell reverse poling ( from HEAT)
They make lipo at 50C -100 for CHEAP . now. It'll out perform li on ..all day long.
One of these days..someone will get a bright idea of mounting aluminum
on the bottom of the board as act as a HEAT SINK or Make an ALUMINUM BOARD :-P
Hi Mike! I really enjoy your vids. I was just wondering if a 12V 3000RPM DC motor would be good for a eboard.
Thanks for watching! I would refer to the Motor Video we just posted.
You’ll want a motor that can handle 6s-12s batteries. 12V is too low when it comes to electric skateboards.
If I wanted to use a lead-acid battery, would a typical ESC work with it without any modifications? Let's say I would carry the battery in a backpack and run detachable wires do the board...I know it's weird but why not? I could get ~36V from 3x motorcycle batteries which is ~10s li-ion
Whats a good place to buy 21700 li-ion battery cells from? I've been looking at the 18650 battery store.
Another good informative video 👍🏼 if I’m using a 6s4p battery, and I’m looking at riding at around 15-18mph , how long/far do you think I could ride for on a full battery ?
An electric skateboard consumes at least 10Wh/km. You have to convert your battery to Wh to calulate the milage. You need the mAh rating of the cells.
Would depend on which specific cells are used in the battery pack.
How do you charge the batteries that do not include a balancer cable, e.g. the ones that you can buy on your site?
Hey my dude, will this: 6s2p Complete Battery Solution power the torque board direct drive kit? I assume yes but do not want to buy it and not be enough to power the direct drive.
Focbox unity is my vesc if that helps any.
We’d recommend a battery with a few more cells in parallel to supply enough output to the motors. We’d recommend 6s4p. Should be able to get away with a 6s3p.
could a custom pack be made out of Samsung 40T 21700 4000mAh 30A?
Hello Mike i have a ? Maverix board need new batteries am i locked into lead acid batteries or can i upgrade to something lighter that can give me more range or the same range just not those heavy suckers in my board please help
hello I got a question about my parts! Would a hub motor - 90mm 10s 36v 77kv 400W, ESC - 36v dual motor, and battery - 36v 10s2p 7Ah 450Watt 1865o lithium-ion battery all be compatible?
I have 10s5p 10000 mah lithium battery, can i add one more battery like 10s4p 10000 mah? Will it work?
I have a ebike battery would I be able to use it on a board?
Can you do 3 2.2s batteries and get the same 6.6 battery. They are only 10 dollars each so I’m wondering if that’s a better idea
Hi! How long does it take to charge the 6S P42A battery?
Hey! Thanks for this great video. Very helpful! What batteries can you recommend if I want even more range ? Like double of the 9000mAh or even triple ? Can I couple multiple of the 9000mHh packs ?
Wowgo at 14ah battery
@@tobiasleierseder8470where can I get one ? Do you have a recommendation? Thanks!
@@luckycstriker yes Just Google wowgo Board on the Side at Accessoires wowgo at 14 ah battery
@@luckycstriker and an enclosure ist With IT too
hi, i'm making an electric skateboard as a school project with two other people.
we're having a bit of trouble finding a suitable cost while still effective.
i was wondering if maybe you could help? i know that you sell batteries, but they are way out of budget for us.
Hey Mike! I used two turnigy 5s 4000mah 30c lipo with a 4.12 vesc esc. It never worked correctly and it somehow fried the esc. What did I do wrong? I waisted a ton of my money and I’m only 16 so it sucks. Love your videos!
you probably fried your ESC because there were too many amps. so probably upgrade your esc.
Horsey thanks that’s what I thought I did
@@toxicwaste1022 there can't be to many amps.. the esc will draw however many amps it needs automatically... And the amp draw changes every single second.. he most likely wired something up wrong or shorted something out..
@@fbiagent3399 an ESC that might be damaged by too large a current. Larger motors tend to draw more current, and larger propellers, or propellers with a greater pitch will also draw more current.
@@toxicwaste1022 I was thinking he said The batteries themselves killed the esc while plugging it in or something... it's always better to get A esc that can deliver much more current then the motors draw that way everything stays cold.. I personally run A 12s hobbywing esc and it's been amazing and definitely 1 of the smoothest escs I've ever owned on A electric skateboard...
Hey mike. This question of mine is kinda stupid, but I'm new and I have some noob questions. Could a portable powerbank 30000mAh charge a electric skateboard? Lets say 14AH Sanyo GA Lithium battery 4P10S? And if yes, what configurations woupd be done? 😅
Hey anyone that may be able to help. I have a gen 1 boosted board and the battery fried. Boosted doesn’t work on V1 boards anymore so I was wondering if I can just run my own battery and have the rest of the board run normally. Any tips or suggestions you might have? Anything helps, thanks!
What is your opinion on choosing a esc?
Is the ovonic 5200mah good for a 6374 motor and generic ESC??
Can you please tell where you bought that 5S turnigy battery?
What should I do in terms of battery choice in order to not cook the vesc?
Hey sorry to take time out of your day ik you're super busy I was just wondering I want to buy a lycaon gr battery to replace the battery on my Wowgo 2s. The specs for the lycaon battery are 18650 cells in 10S3P 36V 7.5Ah 270Wh and for the wowgo which I want to replace are 36V 10S2P. I want the range of the lycaon battery to upgrade my current board and was wondering if using the lycaon battery which is more powerful (about 15 km more range) will fry my esc, motors or anything and was wondering if the battery is compatible. If you do take time to respond thank you so much and if not thanks anyways love the vids, got a new sub!
What is the 'c' rating on the batteries i'm looking at? some are 60c some are 30c
Bstteries I find are rated like 7500MAH not amps so if recommended in this video is 30 amp then should I look for 30Ah batteries?
Is it possible to use lipo cells from lipo packs, connect them to li-ion bms, then use it like a lithium ion pack?
I fly drones a lot, so I already have a two channel balance charger and I'm very familiar with lipos' charge and discharge characteristics.
Soo, I think I'm gonna buy 6 6s 5-6 Ah packs and connect them into 12s3p on top of the board, in the middle. 2p kinda scares me cause 7kWt will draw quite a high current even for a lipo
Do the wattage of the battery and hub motors need to be the same?
Hey could I use two 36v 4.4 ah hoverboard batteries by hooking them up in parallel? To get the 8-9 ah?
Yes 👍🏻
I want to bild a electronic motorbike with a power about 35 kw is this possible with rc motors?
Is safe always keep the battery charger every day?
I am looking at buying b. Mountain board I seen on eBay
But it says it's battery is 24v 12 A yet it say I will get 40km range ?
Can his be right or is this just another advertising lie and yet another lemons board I'm gonna have to wrong on me and not do what I want ? Can you help advised me please
Is 20A max discharge current acceptable ?
Thanks for the helpful video! I have a Mototec 800w 36v single motor that I want to convert to lithium. The board came with 3 12v SLA batteries. Which battery would you recommend for this ? I'm uneasy about buying a new battery until I'm sure it will work with the boards components. I'm looking for as simple of a plug and play as possible but I'm not sure if I will need to replace the controller, motor, or rewire anything. Any advice would be greatly appreciated 🙏
Hey Leo living life, I was just scrolling through the comments and read yours and you asked word for word literally what I'm dealing with right now and wondering? Have you found a solution for yours yet any recommendations?
* Leo Livin Life
@@joshtaylor9585 I bit the bullet and bought another board. Ended up getting the N2G electric long board for $20. More range, less weight , and comes with warranty. All for less than the price of a new battery
OK I HAVE THE L-faster Mountain Skateboard Conversion Kit with Stronger Motor Bracket Off Road Board Truck with 190KV N63 Motor WHAT BATTREY SHOULD I GET, I WOULD LIKE 20MI OUT OF IT ANEY HELP THANKS
I have koowheel eskateboard 2nd gen. I have made 14cm bigger wheels from rubber. Everything is fine but i need more range.. i want to change battery capacity. What do i need? Someone any tips? Thanks
Hey Mike have you considered offering aftermarket battery packs for existing Eboards, like boosted? I would be nice to be able to upgrade to a premium battery without going through the hassle of building one yourself.
or just buy one of amazon and put it in a waterproof bag
Thoughts on making my own pack? Is it more trouble than it's worth? Does it end up being about the same price in the end, since you need to buy parts separately?
@Ronando head over to forum.esk8.news and read as much as you can. Plenty of professional electricians and battery builders with posts regarding everything you could possibly need. Research!
@Ronando nope,got busy with work and am also preoccupied with a music class. StriateZebra has the right idea tho!
Thanks Bro!!! :-)
"You’re not going to strap a lead acid battery to your board".......Fiik big daddy left the chat.
I just bought this board 2nd hand 😂😂. God damn it. 3 lead acid batteries. Anyone got an upgrade battery recommendation
Good video, just a minor correction. Voltage doesn't mean anything about speed without discussing the gear ratio and the kv rating of the motor. A 6s setup on a 400kv motor will give the same "speed" and power (Although double the amps) vs. a 12s setup on a 200kv motor. In terms of watts, speed, power it will be equal, just need to have a larger ESC for the lower voltage.
Correct. If the KV rating and gearing ratio remain constant then the voltage will fully impact the speed.
@@MBoardsco Also, you need to be very careful when increasing voltages without changing KV and Gearing as the power (Watts) to the motor will go up exponentially as voltage increases with no change in KV. Your ESC will need to be much larger and your motors may burn out if you push it with too much voltage.
I just purchased a Meepo Classic as my first e-skateboard, but, your channel has me curious to build a board as I already have the majority of the required components (Motors, batteries, esc's). If I build one, I would probably want to build an AT board as I don't like the current options available on the market.
What are some good resources to see what other builders have done with AT DIY Boards?
what number are you looking at for long lasting
Do you know if there is and adapter to connect 3 lipo battery in S ? Or i have to solder?
Arnau Muntane You could probably connect two of them with one series connector and then connect those two with the 3rd with a second series connector.
If I take 4 10s3p packs and I put 2 in series and then put them both in parallel would that make a 20s6p pack? What would be my output based on the Mboard 10s3p specs?
Yes! You’d end up with a 20s6p
Hello! Which BMS do you use for your 12s battery?
We use Bestway BMSs
I wonder if Samsung 40T 21700 (4000mah) 20cells would have a good range ?
@mboards Does the 'C' discharge matter? For example is a battery with a 20-30c discharge, 5000mAh, and 6 sell 22.2v better than a 14-24c discharge, 12000 mAh, 6s 22.2v battery?
Yes the discharge rating is very crucial for your acceleration and hill climbing. It also helps with voltage sag.
C Rating refers to your discharge rate. If you search for a C rating to discharge rate calculator online you’ll get a better understanding on what to look for when searching for a battery.
C rating is based on capacity, 5,000 mah x 20c = 100 amps, 12,000 mah x 14c = 168 amps. In theory, most fudge a lot on the printed c ratings.
Can I use a 10s5p? Or the 5p can be too much?
I need that 10s2p black small battery in ur video can u show me where to get that like
This one would be the equivalent pack we sell in 2023:
www.mboards.co/collections/batteries/products/10s2p-p42a-battery-pack-transparent-series
How about 2 Milwaukee 18v batteries in series? Would that work?
Aloha Mike, can you guys ship batteries to Hawaii? Maui to be exact...
Yes we can!
Got a 36V battery for a 24V replacement. Board lights up but motor won't turn. Plugged in old battery and works fine. Help.
I am going to make 8S3P liion battery pack with Samsung 25r cells and bms (8S 100A, I will set current limit about 50A in vesc settings). I am also thinking about two 4s lipos and plug they into my BMS. Would it work?
Yes that set up should work just fine 👍🏻
@@MBoardsco what you think about charging and discharging lipos without balance charger, just using bms and charging port and normal charger 33.6V (8S maximum voltage)?
@@hxjjdjjdj8020 its a good solution, if you go on the electric skateboard builders forum you will see that almost nobody uses balance chargers anymore. They all use a bms
what is the discharge rate on the 12s2p and where is it on the webside? thanks.
also where is the charge rate
I got a 36v 15a 7ah aerdu battery from alliexpress for only £55 and its good for 20mph and a gradient of 20%. For me it's the perfect speed and the range is about 15 miles. If you ever need a replacement battery but you're broke its a good alternative.
I think there is a 25a 10ah version as well which is a direct replacement for the wowgo 3 and claims double the capacity and costs £45 less than the official battery... Judging by the the battery I got I would guess the specs are accurate 🙂.
I looked at your website and it does not give info on battery C ratings
What about 2 cordless drill 18volt 6Ah batteries?