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- ESCs or electronic speed controllers are an essential part to every DIY Electric Skateboard build. Today we learn about the basics of ESCS, what they do, why you need them, and which one is right for you.
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I've been watching through your video series and I absolutely love them. I can't stress enough how helpful they are. Also I've seen so many h8rs in the comments talking about price but it's just what it takes lol. Love what you're doing.
Thank you man! So happy you’re liking the videos!
I watched the whole video even though I know all of that. Thanks for putting these videos together. I can’t imagine how much easier getting into this would have been if there were well thought out insightful videos like this when I started. 👊🏿
Thanks for watching!
Your black friday/cyber Monday sells are beautiful
Loving these videos I already know some stuff about esk8 but the more information the better 😁🙏🎓
Thank you for watching!
@@MBoardsco HEY MATE CAN I USE A SEPARATE ESC OR VESC FOR EVERY MOTOR I GOT WITH A SINGLE REMOTE ???
Good vid. Can you bind a generic esc remote control (like the one you showed) to a vesc? I have an eBay esc/remote that is 50a dual (25a per motor) and it seems to be the bottleneck that keeps me from climbing any slight hill (and I'm in SF, so that's a prob). I know my hub motors can handle more and my batteries are high C. Any opinion before I buy a higher amp vesc? Thanks man.
My whole impetus for building my own eskate was that I wanted a non longboard with a tail to make turns, which for whatever reason they don't make.
Great video for us new folk.
I've got a very early e-glide off road board with a huge old fashioned 36v 1000w motor on it and a wired hand controller to a 70A idrive controller.
Can you recommend an esc or vesc that would be suitable for my set up?
This is a low budget, transport only board that was given to me and im using old 10ah ebike batteries so don't want to spend a fortune but may look to upgrade the motor (or replace with two ) in the future.
I also build battery packs but am looking for a bms for charging and discharge control, do the esc's you use have this function or do i need a separate one on the pack still, if so, can you recommend a couple to look at?
Massively appreciate your input.
Any fabrication or mechanical modifications required are fine as i have a workshop with lathes, millls, welders etc.
Cheers, and thanks for any help you can offer!
Nice one!
Edit,
I see you're using three phase motors, mines a straight dc one, if there's something i can use to make it work with this motor, with a view to upgrading to a nicer, lightweight motor like yours, that would be great, but happy to hear any ideas you have!
Thanks for your video. Can break it down what i need to build a mountain board. I’m planning to used turnigy motor 6374-149kv. I need help of how much many battery how much amp I would need. And a type of esc vesc I need?
Do all motors have the same connections that can go into any esc? Also does every esc need a specific control or can I use my old control?
Thank you for this
question, by any chance do you think the ZTW beast pro 300A would be able to be used on electric skateboards? or even the 12s 400A BL ESC for truck might it work if the A is stronger?
Do you know where I can find a motherboard diagram? Mine came with led's and has a buck module attached to it in the middle of the board... It used to work at specific voltages.. Now it never works.. But it was triggered by the rf remote... So I'm assuming the esc controlled output to the led's. Now it outputs voltage but it seems the current is limited
This helped me alot, thank you
Glad we could help!
So I have a Meepo V3. I absolutely love it but I also have another Meepo deck. Battery dual ESC. Just no motor. Can a Meepo ESC handle a a OWNBOARD dual belt motor kit? I ask because you would know, if not, do you have amy suggestions on a belt motors. That a Meepo V3 ESC could work for? Lol thanks.
Great video Mike!
Thanks man!
So I'm building a board right now and I am looking at the hglrc 200a vesc. Will be powered by a 10s2p 8.1ah battery. Will this give me enough power to go dangerously fast? Going to run 97mm wheels with a 36 15 gearing.
Great to know cheers for that 😊
1:32 that dual motor controller on the left. What's the minimum and maximum voltage for that? I've seen it’s description say 36v, so that means it supports 10s right?
What if you opt to go for 2 VESC's with 2 motors, how do you properly connect both of them to the same receiver?
I'm used to having a flight controller as the middle man with drones, but I have no idea how I would directly connects 2 vesc's to one receiver.
Do I just splice the PPM signal wires coming from the receiver?
Hey man, loving the vids. They’ve actually made me not afraid to make my own! I’m building one soon and I was wondering if I could use a different remote with the dual belt motor esc that’s on your site. Thanks!
Hi! That’s awesome man! Glad our videos could help. There is a different style of remote available on the website, but the basic ESCs aren’t compatible with regular Servo connected remotes.
MBoards okay thanks! I was just wondering because the reverse button kinda scares me, I don’t want to accidentally press it while I’m riding and fly off! Does the board have to be stopped in order for the reverse button to put the board in reverse?
Hi Bro, from Argentina, thanks a lot for your video... I have a question for you, I had an accident with my Maxfind MAX A dual motor (500 w x 2 motors), and the ESC was destroyed completely, I need to replace that ESC but I don´t know how I´ve to choose that, can you help me? thanks ( sorry for my english!)
I have an electric long board by Hiboy, and I think the esc went out how do I tell which one to get I know it’s a dual hub one but on Mboards website for that part there is a 10s, 7s, and 6s option.
Hey I got your esc from mboards for one belt Motor its the plug n play option but it doesn’t brake at all my motor is from hobby king it’s 2000 watts and 45 amps and 10 s
Can you please help me
which do you prefer, flipsky fsesc 4.12 or mini 4.20?? what should i use?
Супер , якраз в мене стоїть питання взяти дорощий чи дешевший комплектний з пультом , взяти ESC чи всеж таки докласти грошей і взяти VESC . А дешевший контролер з пультом управління скільки максимально витримує ампер ?
Can I use a dual belt motor esc for a single motor? I was planning to upgrade down to road but not yet.
Does the ESC V4.12 50A SK8-ESC reverse the direction of rotation of the motor?
I have an eglide and want to change to wireless controller any advice
I'm trying to make my long board into an electric one what ESC would I need just a plug and play cheap for a A dual 550w dual motor. Really struggling bro.
Can you choose any ESC for a Electric longboard as long as it has enough Amphere?
can i use a lower mileage battery on a hobbwing esc? and kokoa hub dual motor?
Thank you so much
Thank you for this. The ESCs were the last thing that were a little confusing to me
can i use a 20 amps brushless controler with a 500 watts output? please help
Ok, ive been thinking about building a electric long board for a while and this seems right up my alley because i used to work on rc cars when i was a kid. I'm just wondering do you have to configure the vesc when you receive it or can you use it as a normal esc and just plug it in and play. I'd like to be able to use it straight out of the box and then later when i have time i might think about diving into the world of customization.
Thanks!
You have to program a vesc but if you look it up on tube Mike (the guy in this video) walks you thru it. It's not really all that complicated. Btw I highly recommend a vesc because it'll be a night and day difference in power speed quality ect. Turns a toy into a dangerous fun performance machine!
Would a VESC be a good choice for a hub motor set up? I just want to upgrade the battery and controller but want to keep a similar speed but have a longer range (apx 20 miles ish).
Yes Vescs work great with Hub motors 👍🏻
If an ESC says its 80a but says its for some other stuff like an RC or an airplane, does it still work? i mean, it's capable of handleing 50a
My esc is the cheaper version but I do not know how to pair the remote to it ? Please help
I was on your website but it will not let me choose a dual belt motor ESC with a 12sp4 battery. Would that cause issues? I am planning on getting 6355 motors with 107mm wheels.
Would I have to move down to a 10sp4 battery? 25mph is fast enough but I’m 250 lb and ride steep hills every once in awhile. Would like the extra power
The basic ESCs max out at 10s. You’ll want to go with a pair of Vescs with a 12s battery.
If you do want to go with the Dual ESC, you’ll have to come down to the 10s4p.
Can i use 24v esc to run 2 3s batteries connected in series?
do esc need a receiver??? Im building a dual hub board motor
Great videos - thanks!! How do I connect 2 Vescs for 2 single hub motors with one remote control?
You run a splitter off of your receiver. Hooked to both esc's. Super easy.
I think one VESC can power and handle both motors so you can connect two motors in parallel, just my opinion, but do double check power ratings!
@@Eden_M There might be issues with that, since you're not synchronizing motor speeds.
Would you be able to pretty much make a bare minimum skateboard for me? its really hard and I dont really understand much
Hi where can I get a ROHS Ru94UoE253642Y-D.circuit board...my oneWheel stopped..thx
Off topic question, I saw a 45 tooth at pulley on your site, what kind of speed upgrade would I be expecting if I jump down from a 60tooth? I'll be placing an order Friday :)
We like to use this calculator:
calc.esk8.it
It helps you get a good idea of top speed with different gearing ratios.
Hey, I've just ordered a 10s2p battery from you. If I remember correctly itll be able to output 30A continuously. Does that mean any vesc that can handle 30A+ will be fine or should I be getting those 100A vescs?
Yes any Vesc that can handle 30+ amps will be fine 👍🏻
I was wondering if u could make a video on your MBoard esc. I got that from your com. but I'm having some trouble getting it to work. I got my motor from Torque Boards. I'm not sure how the remote completely works with the Esc and what the flashing and beeping lights mean on my esc. I have two 4C 14.8V batteries which I have made parallel. Thx for the content and work u have already put on and into your channel
Hey did you figure out your issue? I think I have the same setup and I’m not sure if my board is working properly.
i have ESC skateboard but i lose a controller and i brough new controller but it have receiver and i can't conect to my skateboard PLEASE HELP!
How are your esc rated at 50a when the highest one that looks exactly like yours is rated at 12 or 16a with peak of 50A
Hello , i have question , i have this motherboard but i hav battery indicator diplay with anode (+) and catode (-) , where i must connect this wires ? please help me .
cathode is positive (RED), anode is negative (BLACK)
Is it possible to use hub dual motor ESC for Dual belt motor setup? Dose using hub motor ESC affects any aspects of the setup? I see no difference in preset Dual motor hub and belt ESCs. As I understand it just needs to support the correct voltage output for the setup (like 36V for 10s). Did I got sth wrong?
anyone any information on that?
Hey dude thanks for all the esk8 info. I got a quick question. Im building my first board, its gona have two sets of Torque direct drives or your brand direct drives, i haven't decided yet. So 4 motors in all, 2 in the back 2 in the front. How would you recommend I set up the Esc or Vesc? (im leaning Vesc)
Im going to need 4 Vesc’s right or 2 Esc’s that can each handle 2 motors? Right? Also any info or recommendations for my build would be great. Im using a deck with a kick tail probably old school potato style, havent decided 100% on the deck. an your 12s3p battery an electronics an batt cover, the smaller of the square batt cover if it all fits. I havent checked the numbers.. I think cloud wheels as Philly has horrible streets. Any recommendations? Thanks dude!
For direct drives I would say go with 4 Vescs. The other ESCs can limit the full ability of the direct drives.
@@MBoardsco is there any good videos out about correctly wiring 4 Vescs. Thanks!
Hey dude what to do when I can't find a micro usb port on my ESC?? I need to change settings on it. Mines similar to the one on the left in the video @1:33
Cameron Mackenzie you can’t change settings on a normal esc only VESC.
Great video! Could you also do one just on remotes ?
Thanks for the idea! We’d love to do an in-depth video about remotes. We’ll add it to our list 👍🏻
Hello there,I’ve been wondering to buy esc for my off-road electric skateboard I don’t know which one to buy it’s belt motors each is 1650 watt total 3300 watt the battery is 36V 11s ,if you can help me please thanks
I would suggest a pair of Vescs. That way you take advantage of the full power of your motors.
Does that dual ESC have LiPo cutoff or only lithium-ion cut off. I want to use 10s lipos or maybe 6s lipos?
Lipo and liion have the same cut off. you can use lipo
Is the Single Belt Driven Motor ESC (www.mboards.co/collections/escs/products/single-belt-driven-motor-esc) an xt30 or xt60 plug? And can I go full throttle without overwhelming a 6374 180kv motor?
I don't see VESC from your website. Do you plan to sell them in the near future? Can you video on programming a vesc?
We’ve had VESCs for quite some time 😎
www.mboards.co/collections/escs/products/bldc-esc-4-12
And yes an updated tutorial needs to be made ASAP!
@@@MBoardsco My bad. I am a newbie at this. I thought ESC are not programmable and VESC are.
I weight 280lbs, so what is the load the esc could handle ?
so can you just connect any controller straight to a vesc or do you always need a separate receiver?
michael åhlfors some vescs have built in receivers (Bluetooth modules) but others you need a separate receiver (usually comes with new remote kit)m
Ian I use the same ESC with LIPO an LI-ION batteries ? or are different ESCs needed?
I am no expert.
A tech at an RC shop told me that those two styles cannot be charged on the same charger.
I’m guessing because the input and discharge rates are different and “can’t” perform the same task at the same time
It might cause issues if one battery drops to lower voltage than the other and becomes a drain ending in damage somehow
How can u tell if your esc is burned up or shit mine stopped working on me last night I have fully charged batteries no go
So I just bought one of your products and I got 10s because that's what I'm going to do in the future but all I have now is 6s and it's not working is it can you program it?
Unfortunately the basic ESCs aren’t programmable. You’ll want to upgrade your set up to 10s as soon as you can.
i have Direct Drive motors.
which ESC to buy from your site? i dont need any fancy like VESC.
You’ll want to go with the Hobbywing ESC 👍🏻
I have a boosted board dual v1 that still has the original esc but the battery has been cut out. Can someone help me figure out what kind of battery I can use so I don't have to send it to Cali. Thanks in advance
Thanks for the help 👍🏼
I’ve had dual Hobbywing MAX6 ESCs on my Trampa build going strong w 8S (dual 4S Graphene batteries) for over 3yrs, now. So, not sure I agree w you about RC world ESCs.
The esc on the left @01:32, do you happen to know the specs and if yes can you share with us, i happen to have that on a Chinese board and need to know its max power before upgrading anything.
Almost an year and no response.
Unfortunately my board recently broke down and i took the opportunity to open it apart and learn about the ESC.
I upgraded some of the SMT components for better quality options, fortified some contact points with extra solder. Meanwhile you've replied solely to people who wrote "thoughts and prayers" like comments... Thanks for nothing and im not sharing with you what i learned from my experience. Unsubbed. Good riddance.
Hey man, TH-cam comments don’t always pop up for us.
Shoot us a DM on Instagram or email us. We always reply to our DMs and emails.
TH-cam comments are tough because they aren’t really sorted in any particular order.
We always reply when we see the comments!
Can someone link me to a plug n play Single BL motor VESC for use with a 10s Lipo? I have looked and just cannot find one.
Chuck Norris look at his website
Can I use throttle and brake
How to make esc for skateboard at home can you guide us ?
HEY MATE CAN I USE A SEPARATE ESC OR VESC FOR EVERY MOTOR I GOT WITH A SINGLE REMOTE ???
Yes just connect them via canbus and configure them separately in vesctool
Hey very informative videos! I simply want to buy one for my son, already made by you. Is this possible?
Shoot us an email, we might be able to help:
support@mboards.co
Hello thank you for your videos!!! I would have been lost without them. This is still a foreign language to me. I'm planning my first DIY, and I brought two Motors. I would like to use a 12 s p battery I think that's what it is. Could you please recommend a ESC that I do not have to program and is reliable for the motors that I have? KV: 190
Max Power: 3500Watts
Max Current: 85 Amps
Max Volts: 12S
Max Torque: 8Nm
Motor Resistance: 0.05Ohm
Recommend ESC: 3-12S 50A (FSESC4.12 50A or FSESC 6.6 60A)
The brand of motor is flipsky
Will ESC with dual motor output work also with just one motor? I think I buy ESC but first try it with one motor set up and upgrade my board to two motors set up in the future if I need.
Yes this works 👍🏻
Donatas Braziulis hey what esc will you be using? I really want to do the same:)
@@timoeugster7809 I think I start from this www.mboards.co/collections/electric-skateboard-parts/products/dual-hub-motor-esc
if you have a hub motor do you need to by 2 esc's or can we j use one?
You’ll want to get the Dual Hub motor version 👍🏻
Hi may I know the downsides to a dual ESC compared to 2 single ones? I've bought 2 single ones for a project and I need to prove why i chose them over a dual one.
Well if one side of a dual ESC dies, the whole thing needs to be replaced. If one single dies, then only a single needs to be replaced. Makes for cheaper repairs.
@@MBoardsco oh I see. Thanks for the response!
Great info and video but will I be able to use a 12s setup on these cheap escape I know it's only rated for 10s but did anyone try 12s without burning out the esc?
Unfortunately the cheaper ESCs won’t work for 12s set ups. You’ll definitely want to look at a Vesc.
Its work max 48v
@@lbabacar8653 have you tried it thanks for the reply
@@bereal1251 some people try it but no more speed or more torque
@@MBoardsco VESCs burn out at 12S be careful
I have lost my controller for eovan silo which has a hobby wing ESC not VESC ; Eovan do not get in contact. Can I used another remote ?
My brother, love the video! Love you channel subscribed already...
I only got myself fully involved and fully embraced esk8for the past 3 months...
I has become one my greatest addiction! If I'm not working I'm surfing...
I have an Inboard M1 not working having a problem that I've yet to figure out...
A DIY kit build, bought it used... good board very torquey 26 mph top speed...
I so interested in building on a general level...
I understand vesc, battery, controller motor and drivetrain well...
I've been studying it!
Still I have questions...
I'm still a new student to esk8 but I'm very interested, I want to learn more and I learn at the speed of light once I'm totally interested...
Do you have a moment?
Hi John, I'm about to start repairing my Inboard M1 as well. As far as I know it just has a broken ESC. Also inboard failed to send my remote back after I sent the board in for warranty so I will be replacing that too(long story).
This is just the start of my journey so I'm trying to learn as much as I can before I start purchasing parts.
Have you made any progress on your M1 project?
I've been confused about something for a while. Why is voltage measured in how many batteries are connected in series, and not in volts? I understand that connecting batteries in series will give the combine voltage of the batteries (parallel does the same for current). What I am confused about is which is important, how many volts a battery con provide, or how many cells are connected in series? For example, if a non-standard one cell battery provides the same voltage and current as a battery with 6 standard cells, could it be used with a 6s ecs?
I’m not an expert.
I believe that would be fine- but there is more to the story about how you choose to make that voltage.
one guy put 2 5s batteries in series on his board to make the voltage equal to the demand of the esc
The board worked but he was on repair forum for a failure due to the Battery additions (I think lag in voltage under such high demand caused resistance and heat)
Im also guessing the voltage wasn’t the same “wavelengths” and speed if we looked at at them on a chromograph (or whatever it may be called) they are probably different in minor ways that ended up a big issue a mile down the road
It’s a shame the video poster didn’t get to this question
I want to know as well
Could someone please advise on what controller would be best for a scorpion 4225-550kv? Thanks
That motor looks a little small for electric skateboard applications. You might want to consider a 5055 or a 6355. The KV of your motor is also pretty high. We recommend a KV rating between 180 and 270.
If you do opt to use that motor your best bet would be a Vesc.
MBoards Hey, I have now purchased a scorpion 4035-560kv and a Flipsky fsvesc 50a-240a Max, I plan on using it to replace the old motor and esc in an electric surfboard of which water got into and fried the electronics and rusted them. I may make a video on it once I have the parts and if I manage to repair it, if you have any advice that would be great. Thanks
how much is good for an esc?
Hey I bought the same esc but it makes a beeb beeb sound apparently I need a 10 s battery?
You might have bought one for a 10s battery. In the mboards website, you have to choose the ESC voltage that's the same with the battery you're going to use.
hi, i want to make a board with two 200kv motors and 10s batteries. can you recommend a good esc and the link. please mike
Please answer🙏
I need your idea
If you need a simple plug and play option you can go with this ESC:
www.mboards.co/collections/escs/products/dual-belt-driven-motor-esc
If you can swing it, we’d recommend getting a pair of Vescs:
www.mboards.co/collections/escs/products/bldc-esc-4-12
Do you think i Can use a toy car esc
make a video about enclousers
Where can I find an affordable light for my e skate?
We always recommend shred Lights. Not sure if that is considered affordable but they are well worth the price.
How to link 2 esc's together
I wanted to know, which esc would be most optimal for 5065 270kv bldc .. actually looking for budget friendly
The most budget friendly would be the dual belt driven ESC.
@@MBoardsco thanks for responding... But again i had a question that i m using single 270kv motor, will is work properly.. and would it be fine if i use dual drive esc for one motor??
@@MBoardsco and also battery pack is of 6s3p configuration... For a good range... Will it be fine to propel 270kv Motor on flat roads?
MBoards would 2 6355 180 work?
do you guys still have the Dual FSESC4.20 in stock
Just look on their website?
Go to aliexpress for 110$
Can I use a dual drive ESC for only 1 6355 motor
Yes
What esc would work best for a 7s dual belt motor
We always recommend Vescs, but our basic 7s ESCs work well too.
MBoards - Okay thank you I will look into it more!
I have 36v motor what esc I need? ThNks
You’ll want to use a 10s battery and 10s ESC along side of your Motor 👍🏻
If i'm using 2 separate ESCs how do i control them with 1 remote?
You will need to purchase a “bus connector “ to connect both esc’s into one.
Hi I will build a electric skateboard and won't to ask you what is the best deck for a electric skateboard?
Deck choice is really up to you. We recommend decks 34” and up. Also be sure to stay away from drop down decks as there isn’t quite enough clearance for the motor and electronics underneath.
If you rear mount the motors and use individual lipo cells (1s 10k mAh, $10 on eBay) then a drop deck will be fine. But if you're gonna use rc lipo batteries then a flush mount longboard deck is best.
Do I need an esc that works with a sensor motor? Do I need a sensor motor?
Gavin Buckley yes
Hey man! I built myself a 10s 2p longboard with the cheap 2 wheel drive esc for 50€ ...the one you get on AliExpress you know :D. But now i have the issue that the esc turns off at 36v eventho its ment for 10s. So that means my cells aren't empty yet when the esc turns off and i cant drive full range. Any tips or tricks? Are you aware of that problem? And keep up the incredible vudeos man!! You are an inspiration
You may have to take a look at your battery construction. If your battery cells break connection for even a second the ESC will shut off. You may also want to contact the seller you got it from. Many similar looking ESCs are sold many places so it may just depend on which iteration you have.
We don’t have experience with the specific version that comes from AliExpress to help you but we suggest taking a look at your battery or contacting the seller for a replacement.
@@MBoardsco i just looked up a lithium ion cell Voltage drop chart where it clearly shows that at 3.6v a lithium cell is 80% empty so actually it seems to make sense now, since i wouldn't want to empty my cells out more anyways. Thanks for the reply!
Omg i think i figured out what my problem with the cheap 50$ esc's is. So when i looked at the voltage drop illustration of lipo and ion cells i noticed that a lipo is 80% empty at 36v but a lithium ion battery isn't. So to me it seems like all those esc's are programmed/built for lipos. Would that make sense to you or do you have any clue if there is a site to get those esc's for lithium ion batteries? 🤔 I'd love to hear your thoughts on this :D
When do the dual 100$ Esc's you sell on your site shut of the power? Are they ment for lipos or lithium ion cells?
Hello, I am looking for an ESC with remote control, but I am not familiar with it. I have a motor and a battery, but I can still change the battery if this increases the performance
The data for the motor from the manufacturer are:
KV (rmp / volt): 270 rmp / volt.
ESC: 80 A.
Power:> 1820 W.
Tensile strength: 3 - 5.5 kg.
Resistance: 42 kV.
Open circuit current: 1.5 A.
Suitable battery (not included): 3S-8S (11.1V-29.6V)
And for the battery:
5A
74.0 Wh
4S1P
14.8V
20C / 40C
I hope someone knows it well and can help me.
is there a difference between hub motor escs and belt motor esc
Yes, a few of the components are slightly different and they are each calibrated for different Motor KV ranges.
How do bind 2 escs for a 4wd electric skateboard
Hi , Arc you can just buy an Electric skateboard IN INDIA , FROM THUNDER BOARDS ( A new company )
This is the website www.thunderboardstore.com
@@esk8tapas22 haha corona shut you down