Great job showing and telling, and I am now rebuilding my 1990 f350 long bed with a 460 fuel injection.and I have headman headers for it, and I am porting my heads now so I hope it runs better. I know it will run better, for the money I’ll be putting in to it and the new injectors. Well see ya next time see ya bye bye
Im sure you will notice a difference with the modifications you’re making! It definitely will be more powerful and fun to drive. Im saving up for some upgrades on my truck as well! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
Thank you brother! Im saving some money to do a couple of nice upgrades shortly. I’m planning to do a full exhaust system from headers all the way back.
Right on for the come back, and your welcome anytime for the comment love talking about rebuilding or doing upgrades on a 460 I think they are great motors. well text at you later buddy see ya next time see ya bye bye.
My 95 f250 ext cab 2wd long bed gets 10 mgp. I dropped the tailgate, drove 63 mph with flat hwy and ac on. That trip got 17.8 mpg. Thats 198k miles 460 stock. Now I'm shooting for the goal of 23 hwy at 70 mph
1996 f250 multi port 460 with my 32ft camper traveling 221 miles at 50 mph i get 14.7 mpg. with no trailer traveling at 60 mph i get 15 mpg. it does have a lot to do with how you drive them.
Hello Im a chick. Your great for doing these videos Im considering getting this truck a 1989 for f250 4x4 and I know nothing about trucks. Your the first video I have watched . Really appreciate your thoroughness. Peace and god bless.
Hi, I really appreciate you watching this video and leaving a comment! These trucks can be great transportation, they are usually very reliable, just be sure that you have someone check the truck thoroughly before you purchase it! With Gas prices going up, they probably aren’t the most reasonable option, but if you love trucks like I do! Then 💯 buy it! Good luck and I hope to one day hear your ownership experience!
This one here is a 5 speed! But yes, I’ve heard of the auxiliary over drives that hook to the tail of the automatic transmission! And they are supposed to make a big difference
Mine came with a Gear Vendors over/under drive behind the C6. It does make a difference, but you can get automatic overdrive transmission now instead of the C6. The real issue with the gear vendors is that the adapters are about $500 to go from one transmission to another. The kit cost the previous owner about $3000. You can buy a lot of gas for $3000.
I like the way that truck has both a "Check Engine" and an "Engine" light (probably oil pressure warning or something else). I think my eyes would pop out and I wouldn't know what to do if they both came on at the same time 🤯I also like what you said about the electric car parked near a puddle and what we would think about electric cars - I have a an F250 with a 460 also so I didn't think too much of electric cars .
Yeah, I’ve wondered the same thing about why there are two warning lights! Ive never driven or been inside an electric car, I couldn’t honestly say that I am interested in ever experiencing one, it’s tragic that it became a political issue and that internal combustion engines may one day disappear! Hopefully it doesn’t happen in our lifetime 🙏
I’ve got a 1993 f250 460 full emissions/egr/smog/o2 delete. Factory manifold with bigger pipes dumped under cab. 285/75r16s. Zf5 transmission. I get 7 mpg at the very best
Do happen to know the gearing on your truck? Mine has 3.55 gears, usually 4.10 ratio will give you more power off the line but you will get less gas mileage as a result. I also noticed that when I don’t anticipate the traffic lights ahead and Im not off the gas before I reach the red light I get horrible mileage. Not shifting gears at the correct RPM (when its not fun) also takes a toll. I keep the truck at under 2.5k rpm always
Very interesting results. I have three 460 Fords and I've mostly accepted that there isn't much you can do about the fuel mileage. I'm interested to get your opinion on the low end torque after removing the air silencers from the intake. Some claim that these tubes not only reduce intake noise, but also improve the velocity of the air at low speeds providing better low RPM torque. Did you notice any difference in low speed torque (1500-2200 RPM) after removing the air horns? My latest truck is a crew cab, 4x4, E4OD so I don't think it will see the same mileage you've achieved, but I'm curious to see how it is once I get it on the road. I'm going to weigh it empty, as I'd imagine it would be a fair bit heavier than a regular cab pickup.
Hello, I don’t think they had any effect on torque, or at least a noticeable one. I did notice the intake got a little bit louder after I removed them. By the way, Ford did away with them in the newer California trucks that have a Maf sensor and also in the later Vans that come with a 460, out of curiosity I was looking through the junkyard and found out the vans don’t have a taper on the adapter so I bought one off a van because it just looked smoother than the one I cut. I think the biggest effect on gas mileage came from trying to anticipate stops and laying off the gas to avoid unnecessary hard stops and keeping the engine below 2500 rpm while driving.
@@MrBlitzkrieg1987 Interesting about the later year trucks not having the silencer. I'll have to open up my 95 and confirm whether it is in there or not. I think you are absolutely correct about anticipating traffic and lights, coasting to a stop instead of staying on the gas longer and then braking. Also if you drive in areas with hills, there is not point on adding throttle all the way up a hill to maintain your exact speed only to have to scrub speed with brakes on the downhill side.
Best thing I've found to increase low end torque is to install a straight up timing gear / chain . All smog era 460's 1972 and later came with the camshaft retarded 4 degrees at the camshaft which makes it 8 degrees at the crankshaft! Swap the timing gear out for a straight up gear and you won't recognize your truck . Mucho bottom end . I could burn rubber both tire on my '79 carburetted van. I had a camper van, heavy as hell, 33 inch tires and 4:10 posi traction known as Traction Lock on Fords. It raises the engines volumetric efficiency when you swap out the timing gear .
Problem is it may put you out of regulation when you have to smog test it in these ultra strict times. It will feel like you installed a very mild camshaft, just the changing the timing gear. I even run a 465 horsepower 460 in my jet boat . The stock crankshafts will withstand up to 750 horsepower and over 1,200 horsepower with the factory 2 bolt engine block.
@@mikek9137 the 95 will probably still have the silencer, its the trucks that came with a MAF sensor that do not and also the Vans that came with an EFI 460.
I'll have to pop an injector out and take a look. I have a supercharger on mine and am running 35s, so I don't expect great mileage (I'm getting about 9 now), but I have to change out the fuel rails anyway, so I might as well check. Thanks for the vid - good info.
Ok math time stock tires 31.7 if the door panel says 235/85/r16 your “33” are actually 32.8 Get your trip meter mileage (divide by) [stock size] then multiple that by your actual size (65 miles / 31.7)x32.8=actual mileage Or what ever your door says for factory.
Hi, yes I looked into it, but apparently before doing anything like that I would need to upgrade the charging system on the truck to a 3g alternator. It isn’t too difficult since some later model 460 trucks and vans come equipped with it. I also haven’t researched what fan flows enough cfms to keep it cool like the stock unit
DON'T KEEP BUYING ACCESSORIES.. WITH THIS NEW GREEN DEAL CRAP COMING LOTS OF THIS TRUCKS WILL BE OBSOLETE IN A MATTER OF YEARS BUT IF YOU NEED THE POWER AND CAN AFFORD TO PAY FOR THE GAS BECAUSE IT'S A BUSINESS I BELIEVE YOU CAN SCORE THAT MONEY BACK ON YOUR ESTIMATES
Sadly I think you’re right, they want to get us off the road. They find any excuse to make the smog laws more strict and the gas more expensive. I don’t use it for business, just to get around because I love old Fords!
If you are here for the results 16:44
glad i came across ya video…been trying to find a way to get better mileage out my 90’!!
Great job showing and telling, and I am now rebuilding my 1990 f350 long bed with a 460 fuel injection.and I have headman headers for it, and I am porting my heads now so I hope it runs better. I know it will run better, for the money I’ll be putting in to it and the new injectors. Well see ya next time see ya bye bye
Im sure you will notice a difference with the modifications you’re making! It definitely will be more powerful and fun to drive. Im saving up for some upgrades on my truck as well! Thanks for watching and leaving a comment.
Cool truck my dude can't wait to see it all done up
Thank you brother! Im saving some money to do a couple of nice upgrades shortly. I’m planning to do a full exhaust system from headers all the way back.
I am saving up to get a crew cab 350 manual 4x4 460 looking at one rn but not set
Right on for the come back, and your welcome anytime for the comment love talking about rebuilding or doing upgrades on a 460 I think they are great motors. well text at you later buddy see ya next time see ya bye bye.
14.83 is excellent mpg for a 460.
My 95 f250 ext cab 2wd long bed gets 10 mgp. I dropped the tailgate, drove 63 mph with flat hwy and ac on. That trip got 17.8 mpg. Thats 198k miles 460 stock. Now I'm shooting for the goal of 23 hwy at 70 mph
Really? It cant be that easy
How??
I call bs .. mine has a flatbed and gets 10
Opening the tailgate does nothing. It has been proven several times in wind tunnels
23? More than my 2.4l Honda CRV lmao
1996 f250 multi port 460 with my 32ft camper traveling 221 miles at 50 mph i get 14.7 mpg. with no trailer traveling at 60 mph i get 15 mpg. it does have a lot to do with how you drive them.
Hello Im a chick. Your great for doing these videos Im considering getting this truck a 1989 for f250 4x4 and I know nothing about trucks. Your the first video I have watched . Really appreciate your thoroughness. Peace and god bless.
Hi, I really appreciate you watching this video and leaving a comment! These trucks can be great transportation, they are usually very reliable, just be sure that you have someone check the truck thoroughly before you purchase it! With Gas prices going up, they probably aren’t the most reasonable option, but if you love trucks like I do! Then 💯 buy it! Good luck and I hope to one day hear your ownership experience!
They make auxiliary Over Drives. To give you a 4th gear on your C6 transmission.
This one here is a 5 speed! But yes, I’ve heard of the auxiliary over drives that hook to the tail of the automatic transmission! And they are supposed to make a big difference
Mine came with a Gear Vendors over/under drive behind the C6. It does make a difference, but you can get automatic overdrive transmission now instead of the C6.
The real issue with the gear vendors is that the adapters are about $500 to go from one transmission to another. The kit cost the previous owner about $3000. You can buy a lot of gas for $3000.
I like the way that truck has both a "Check Engine" and an "Engine" light (probably oil pressure warning or something else). I think my eyes would pop out and I wouldn't know what to do if they both came on at the same time 🤯I also like what you said about the electric car parked near a puddle and what we would think about electric cars - I have a an F250 with a 460 also so I didn't think too much of electric cars .
Yeah, I’ve wondered the same thing about why there are two warning lights! Ive never driven or been inside an electric car, I couldn’t honestly say that I am interested in ever experiencing one, it’s tragic that it became a political issue and that internal combustion engines may one day disappear! Hopefully it doesn’t happen in our lifetime 🙏
Love the truck, need to straight pipe it now 😅
That’s the plan! I’ll be working on doing some performance upgrades on it soon! Headers, exhaust, maybe Ill port the heads on it as well
@MrBlitzkrieg1987 I have long tube on mine and straight pipes, it sounds nasty, but I need that cam sound now 😅
I’ve got a 1993 f250 460 full emissions/egr/smog/o2 delete. Factory manifold with bigger pipes dumped under cab. 285/75r16s. Zf5 transmission. I get 7 mpg at the very best
Do happen to know the gearing on your truck? Mine has 3.55 gears, usually 4.10 ratio will give you more power off the line but you will get less gas mileage as a result. I also noticed that when I don’t anticipate the traffic lights ahead and Im not off the gas before I reach the red light I get horrible mileage. Not shifting gears at the correct RPM (when its not fun) also takes a toll. I keep the truck at under 2.5k rpm always
@@MrBlitzkrieg1987 it’s got 3.73 swap
awesome thanks! i'm looking for a set of injectors. i put on a set of banks stainless headers, they fit nice plus more power
Im saving some money for that upgrade next!
The fuel returns to both tanks if your using the rear it returns to the rear same for the front.
Good to know! I really haven’t checked sir, I just went with what the gentleman told me in the other post.
Tire size difference is @ %3.5. multiply the odometer reading by 1.035 to get your actual mileage.
That’s one way to do it, but you have to trust the odometer is accurate as well. Personally I think the satellite GPS is a bit more accurate.
Bro we get it you prefer the gps it’s 2023 like who doesn’t.
Very interesting results. I have three 460 Fords and I've mostly accepted that there isn't much you can do about the fuel mileage. I'm interested to get your opinion on the low end torque after removing the air silencers from the intake. Some claim that these tubes not only reduce intake noise, but also improve the velocity of the air at low speeds providing better low RPM torque. Did you notice any difference in low speed torque (1500-2200 RPM) after removing the air horns? My latest truck is a crew cab, 4x4, E4OD so I don't think it will see the same mileage you've achieved, but I'm curious to see how it is once I get it on the road. I'm going to weigh it empty, as I'd imagine it would be a fair bit heavier than a regular cab pickup.
Hello, I don’t think they had any effect on torque, or at least a noticeable one. I did notice the intake got a little bit louder after I removed them. By the way, Ford did away with them in the newer California trucks that have a Maf sensor and also in the later Vans that come with a 460, out of curiosity I was looking through the junkyard and found out the vans don’t have a taper on the adapter so I bought one off a van because it just looked smoother than the one I cut. I think the biggest effect on gas mileage came from trying to anticipate stops and laying off the gas to avoid unnecessary hard stops and keeping the engine below 2500 rpm while driving.
@@MrBlitzkrieg1987 Interesting about the later year trucks not having the silencer. I'll have to open up my 95 and confirm whether it is in there or not. I think you are absolutely correct about anticipating traffic and lights, coasting to a stop instead of staying on the gas longer and then braking. Also if you drive in areas with hills, there is not point on adding throttle all the way up a hill to maintain your exact speed only to have to scrub speed with brakes on the downhill side.
Best thing I've found to increase low end torque is to install a straight up timing gear / chain . All smog era 460's 1972 and later came with the camshaft retarded 4 degrees at the camshaft which makes it 8 degrees at the crankshaft! Swap the timing gear out for a straight up gear and you won't recognize your truck . Mucho bottom end . I could burn rubber both tire on my '79 carburetted van. I had a camper van, heavy as hell, 33 inch tires and 4:10 posi traction known as Traction Lock on Fords. It raises the engines volumetric efficiency when you swap out the timing gear .
Problem is it may put you out of regulation when you have to smog test it in these ultra strict times. It will feel like you installed a very mild camshaft, just the changing the timing gear. I even run a 465 horsepower 460 in my jet boat . The stock crankshafts will withstand up to 750 horsepower and over 1,200 horsepower with the factory 2 bolt engine block.
@@mikek9137 the 95 will probably still have the silencer, its the trucks that came with a MAF sensor that do not and also the Vans that came with an EFI 460.
I'll have to pop an injector out and take a look. I have a supercharger on mine and am running 35s, so I don't expect great mileage (I'm getting about 9 now), but I have to change out the fuel rails anyway, so I might as well check. Thanks for the vid - good info.
Looks like Los Angeles.
Ok math time stock tires 31.7 if the door panel says 235/85/r16 your “33” are actually 32.8
Get your trip meter mileage (divide by) [stock size] then multiple that by your actual size
(65 miles / 31.7)x32.8=actual mileage
Or what ever your door says for factory.
Too complicated, I rather just trust the GPS odometer which I find much more accurate anyway.
Have you considered the fan hub to e-fan conversion?
Hi, yes I looked into it, but apparently before doing anything like that I would need to upgrade the charging system on the truck to a 3g alternator. It isn’t too difficult since some later model 460 trucks and vans come equipped with it. I also haven’t researched what fan flows enough cfms to keep it cool like the stock unit
how,mich is tour registration on your truck are you getting hit with a weight fee?
I pay about 220 this year 🥲… yes they charge me for that too
@@MrBlitzkrieg1987 oh man mine is over $300!
@@vrm86gt that’s definitely because it is a newer truck, they somehow tax you on the value of your vehicle, I learned that when I registered my volvo
Whoever told you return only goes to the front tank is an idiot. It returns to whatever tank it's on unless it's busted.
I had no idea if that was true or not, so I just went for it 😂
Add a MSD 6AL BOX.
I’ll be upgrading the exhaust system, and I’ll probably do the ignition afterwards
what injectors are you using? thx
th-cam.com/video/zBRPiWgm2g4/w-d-xo.html
This is the link for the video where I show which injectors I used. They are Gen3 Bosch units. You can see the difference in the flow bench I used
DON'T KEEP BUYING ACCESSORIES..
WITH THIS NEW GREEN DEAL CRAP COMING LOTS OF THIS TRUCKS WILL BE OBSOLETE IN A MATTER OF YEARS BUT IF YOU NEED THE POWER AND CAN AFFORD TO PAY FOR THE GAS BECAUSE IT'S A BUSINESS I BELIEVE YOU CAN SCORE THAT MONEY BACK ON YOUR ESTIMATES
Sadly I think you’re right, they want to get us off the road. They find any excuse to make the smog laws more strict and the gas more expensive. I don’t use it for business, just to get around because I love old Fords!