Videos like these make me want to resurrect my '86 460ci F250 4x4...gas was over $4 a gallon when the water pump went out, so it was either spend the money and time to fix a truck that got like 8 mpg and leaked oil like crazy from seemingly everywhere, especially the rear main seal, or get something a little more economical. I was putting a quart in on every fillup, which is really saying something since I was filling it up all the time. I do miss that power and the sound of the true dual exhaust with 3" pipe and 24" glasspacks...It rumbled the ground enough to set off car alarms as I drove by them, lol. That engine is a monster, and sounds like one. I've also got to admit it was kind of fun to see the expression on the faces of young guys working at the parts store, when they asked engine size and I told them 7.5l 460...some of them get wide eyed and say something like, "Whoa, really?!" lol, always cracked me up.
@@martincurtis2257 I'm more about cubic inches on these old trucks...sometimes I can't remember the metric BS, other than on newer vehicles, then thats all I know.
Hey man I get it, it's fun to see who's got the best pulling rig. That is so abusive on the whole driveline though, it seems like the winner of that pull was the camera man! Wanna see who has a better towing rig, put your gooseneck on and pull some ag equipment
This would be more interesting if both trucks had the same tires, the same weight in back and the same driver (I know that can't happen, but it's likely the biggest factor.), then it would be closer to showing which engine is better at pulling. It looks to me like the diesel has more street oriented tires, and the 460 powered truck had more aggressive tires, that's why it looked like something was going to snap on the 460 powered truck, it was getting more traction.
We’re these both stick of automatic? Both of these trucks are great. I’d take a good 460 over the new trucks, but I drive a 93 idi & she’s been doing well as of now. I get about 16-20mpg city & highway. Highway is like 20mpg, city is like 15-17 ish. Got a ZF5 2wd & 3.55 gears. Had a 95 7.3 w 4.10s & threw a 3.55 axle in it before I got my 93 before I started to have issues w head gaskets & injectors. Bet that 460 gets 5mpg or for them gassers it’s smiles per gallon of fuel.
Both are tough trucks. I have owned both. 460 will wind up and pull hard from the bottom to redline. And get 5mpg with a heavy load. 7.3 takes a bit to get them going but once turbo is spooled at 2,500rpm. You can't pull em down. 11mpg doing it. Looks like 7.3 has a bit of advanced in the front. The old 460 is stout.
I should hope so . Its a giant gasoline motor . If it doesn't then its a complete failure of design . That being said , do you know the stock horsepower and torque specs for those two motors ?
back to back pull offs don't mean anything I watched a 2wd 1/2 Ton v 6 beat a 4wd 1/2 ton v8 simply for the fact the 2wd didn't have enough power to break the tires lose as soon as the other truck did the 2wd dragged him
Powerstrokes are direct injection. 7.3 powerstrokes are the best diesel ever put in a pickup and will probably hold that title for the rest of eternity,
the 460 thats in that truck, if its EFI, has from factory roughly 245 horsepower and 400 pound-feet of torque. the 7.3 power stroke (im guessing based on the badging) has 225-230 horse power (at 3k rpm) and 450 ftlbs of torque, so they are actually quite comparable, granted with a tune, and some other motor upgrades the powerstroke will outperform the 460, but stock for stock they are quite comparable.
Tough old 460. I've had 4 of them. Never failed me. My fuel injected '95 got 14 on highway. This older 460 did well, but by the looks of it, the tires were shot. Diesel looked well maintained. They all went over 300k miles with minimum maintenance. Better than the V10 that replaced it for sure.
It's how stand by your truck, it's how you drive your truck. "Vin Diesel". But no really while I can't see guy driving the 460, I feel like it's some young kid just putting his whole heart and soul into the win and straight destroying the driveway.
I have a 460 in my 70 dually flatbed, it sounds like a monster looking for food, well gasoline. When I drive this in the city, nobody, and I mean nobody, jaywalks in front of me.
Hate to break it to all the power stroke guys, but my grandfathers 86 f250 with the 460 just turned over 500,000 miles. So there goes that whole reliability thing..
+Keihin Bracken ye it really all depends on the owner and how good they maintain it. my 7.3 has over 250k. nothing ever broke unless it was from normal wear.
my uncle's service truck has the 460 with 335k miles and that's 335k miles of hauling a 14k lb truck. the 7.3 is definitely the more reliable engine but the 460 is still great.
SRT Viper 51 well the reliability comes with a cost. you need parts, you're gonna pay. the trucks cost more up front, the fuel costs more, everything about them is more expensive to own. And I'm not hauling a bulldozer 1200 miles a couple times a week, I don't need that kind of torque. I'm pulling a race car to a drag strip or pullng firewood, stuff that I never need to max out the GCWR on a big diesel, I'm perfectly content with a ballsy gas engine for my uses.
+runeshark22 diesel cost less than gas. If you're not towing, you don't need diesel. Stick with a gasser since you don't tow. But don't compare the two. Nobody believes gasses are more reliable. They hit higher Temps. The also guzzle up fuel in order to match what a diesel can produce. The drop in MPGs on a diesel while towing isn't nearly as much as a gasser would drop.
These pull offs are fun to watch, but in reality only show which vehicle has more traction. The guy with the heaviest truck and biggest tires usually takes the win. There's a video with a Duramax 4x4 pulling a 10 wheel tractor around here on TH-cam. A real test would be a drag race uphill with a trailer grossing about 10K.
I love 460's. they have endless power. my neighbor has one and he put an exhaust and heads on it. when he starts that beast in the morning I swear he could wake up the neighborhood
I'd say the 460 & 7.3 are an even match! We don't know all the specs on transmission & drive units,but I think it was an even match! I had a 1977 F150 with a 460 & it would out pull a chevy 454 every day of the week! Wish I had it back!
its not because the 7.3 didnt have a turbo which it probably did, its because the 460 is made to pull. its the best and strongest motor out there... until you look at fuel milage.
I bought one new a in 89 I went through two motors and was waiting on the third (under warranty) 460 They got kinda sloppy on The assembly line color-coded pistons head block etc It ran strong I got lucky and herd a rattle from inside away from the normal exhaust noise When they (dealer) took it apart it was Multi color markings What a shame that was that truck was sharp looking and very sure footed It had a great drivetrain I now drive a 7.3 (99) Best milage ever from a V8
The 7.3 is a 94.5-97 powerstroke which means it has a turbo and the powerstroke is made to pull too and is a amazing motor to. Not saying the 460 isn't great which it is.
When it comes to the early 7.3s and 460s it really just depends on which one you like more. Getting bad MPG in the 460 but not having to worry about costly maintenance or getting better MPG in the 7.3 and paying for the maintenance. personally I'm a diesel guy because I own a transporting business and I like the MPG and reliability. BUT for a straight up round town work/play truck. I'd go 460. Easier to work on/maintain. Cheaper too. And if you blow up a 460 just go to a junkyard haha you aint finding no good 7.3s at a junkyard!
I have a 1996 f350 dually with a california emission 460 and a 1997 f350 dually with a 7.3 powerstroke. Both are stock and the 460 will rape the 7.3 any day of the week. Low end or top end the 460 will drag that 7.3 all over the place. Although it will not pass a gas station.
I should replace or cut mine. Blew a hole in a semi- brand new cherry bomb. Put a tow package in an obs ford with a 460 and pulling stuff is even more fun, even though there's no need to really.
Same got one in my 1997 f250 absolutely love it my dads truck broke down i towed it hime 15miles with a strap backroads couldint even tell it was back there even having to drag it up giant hills and twists and turns forever love the 460 not like the new stuff the kids r into
Although the 460 is a better engine stock. It also sounds like a monster which is a plus. Not shutting down the powerstroke though, you get some turbos and do a little tuning those things will pull like a Mother F*****
Before they even start my money is on the 460. Knew it. 460s pull like a mule. Aftermarket aluminum heads a longer duration cam and a edelbrock air gap intake and 750 cfm carb really wakes them up
What are the Axle codes on the trucks???. if one truck has 3.55 gears and the other has 4.10 its not a fair fight.... but even with matching gears I would still bet on stock 460 over a stock 7.3 idi
7.3 has more torque, 460 more hp those are facts. this is a show of traction. the 7.3 will pull 40k lbs up hill I don't think the 460 would manage that.
I am a huge fan of the 460 (never owned one) and the 7.3 (current daily), but my favorite truck I sold like an idiot was a 300 six 5 speed -- I loved that engine. My mostly stock 7.3 can't roll coal or do burnouts but oh God the torque!
Me and my dad got a project 460 for cheap cheap. Full crew can dually with the centurion package. The guy bought it from an old man and didn’t have time to fix it. It has no spark and we ended up pulling the distributor and she started right up. She needs a little more work, there’s still leaks here and there but over all for a truck that had been sitting under a pine tree for three years it’s in very good condition. Even in New York it has no rust.
460 wins, damn the diesel just uses less revs so it’s ultimately better for towing long distance fuel wise, but for shear dragging power 460 all day long
Here something to think about also Ford as retained 62% of consumers where as chevy has 50% and dodge comes in at a staggering 22%. so now if ford makes such a horrible diesel why is it the they produce so much more revenue then the other two? And why did GM have to close their Saturn and Pontiac plants down and almost do away with Cadillac before they took their second government bail out?
People buy Ford for the name. I work at a Ford dealer and those 6.7 diesels aren't exactly incredible. GM was losing money with Saturn and Pontiac so they ran off the parts and got rid of those names. Whatever they didnt make deadline on they ran with Chevy emblems. They still make Caddys so I wasn't aware they dropped them. If you want to talk about bailouts I suggest you research Ford history. Ford almost went under long before GM or Chryler and they even took bailout money at the same time. Media will have you believe many things.
My buddy and I were doing this exact same thing when his trailer ball broke off and launched through my back window taking out my rear view and landing on the floor, shocked the shit outta me. Now I use a receiver hoop. Love the 460's
I've owned both and now have two 7.3's. This was a lot of fun and certainly was more on traction than pulling power, but you put 25,000 lbs behind both and I'll take the 7.3 every time. I use to do these with my old 390 and pulled any Chevy until they hollowed stop. lol
the only thing this proves is one guys truck has better tires than the other. To do the test right you would need to put an identical load in the back of each truck so the rear ends were both weighted down the same, then you would have to have the same tires on both trucks, lastly both trucks would have to have the same drive line whether it be two wheel drive or four wheel drive, both trucks would have to be on the same consistent surface. Then and only then can you accurately tell which would win in a tug of war.
I have a pair of king cab 1997 F-250's. One is 7.3 diesel, one is 460 gas. Both are 100% rust and damage free with low miles on them but this is a sure method of ruining one of them!! They are actually very equal in power. However my diesel gets 3 pg better while my gas is more forgiving in regular use.
am i the only one who was waiting for the strap to break? that truck would have went flying into the garage or the gas truck could have shot out into the street when a car was passing by. cool video
chris medders Chevy is the absolute worst been working on all of the big 3 for 40 years I’ve seen plenty of each but GM is the worst of the 3 no contest
These truck did NOT prove anything as far as math , science , and apple to apple comparison base on all equal specs ? Im a mechanic .... I can tell you .... thats gonna tear up some motor and tranny mount and driveshaft and specially the hanger bearings for sure !
My motorhome a 1990 Ford Fleetwood Flair 30 foot. The best RV I have ever owner. The 460 motor fires up like a charm every time even when I’m about ready to run out of gas. Very quiet. Unlike his mine is fuel injected so from inside the RV you can’t really hear it running. They have made a lot of improvement on the 460 over the last several years. It’s a workhorse. You wouldn’t believe the shear weight these motors can pull without even a single complaint. No can’t complain. Only thing that hasn’t changed??? Average gas mileage is about 7.5 miles per gallon. It costs about a $1 every time I fire it up. They can use a lot of oil, so you really have to keep your eyes on it. Otherwise this motor will run with the wind on anything you give it, and keeps on ticking. I love my Ford 460 motor.
I agree on the 460. The torque it has is unbelievable. The best motors that ford has made are the 460 and the 4.9 straight six. The 4.6 coming in at third.
awesome! great video. ive got the 460 in my f350 dually. bad ass engine and has truely earned its stripes. both trucks in this are rad. thanks for the post.
I have 94 F250 with only 90K miles on it. I use it for work. I hate having to do it, but I like the way it just launches whenever I need to get across a busy street.
Can't beat a 460. I took one out of a 95 f250 and put it in my 67 galaxie 500 it's a beast. I also bored it 30 over and stroked it to a 8.5l I a 521 cubic inch now.
Only thing these truck pulls prove is what morons the owners are to abuse their machinery like that. Want to win every time? Put a half ton of weight over the back wheels and drop the air pressure a bit and you'll beat anyone that's empty every time regardless or power, tyres or anything else.
Oil Burner Your exactly right, torque and power doesn't matter as long as you have more weight and better traction, because if you tried to face someone that had no weight in the bed, they're just going to spin while your pulling them everywhere, Think about it "Flyin Sushi"
Try watching a semi no matter the weight you can pull anything for instance a pickup vs semi without the trailer losses but with the trailer wins every time traction +weight +power get it right
Sorry but i did the same test with my 02 f350 and my buddies 97 350 460 I had him every time. did it 4 times (both stock) the idi isnt really on the same level as the 7.3 power stroke. But I respect the 460 it’s a beast in a different sense
Both were in 2wd the whole time the 7.3 had a problem with one of the front hubs and the 460 had the ttb front suspension and had a sheared pin in the diff so neither had reliable 4x4 so they agreed to keep it in 2
460 all day fuck them overrated diesels the 460 is emp proof! And you no what thear means no computer to burn up rendering you're vehicles useless 83 or older is what you need thease days a scary time indeed
the higher hitch lifts the other truck rear wheels (less traction) these pull offs don't prove much. Hook to a sled or something heavy and see which pulls better.
I had an 87/88 f350 with the 460 and 5 spd w od and that thing would go up a mountain in first gear and although it had a big grain body dump it would float down the highway at a 100 mph with ease like a caddy or town car and it felt like you were only going 55 it was so smooth and it had to stop at every gas station you saw, I was worried cuz when I bought it the owner was totally honest that it had 350k on the odometer, I beat the hell outta that truck for about 4 or 5 years using it to haul huge, heavy loads of scrap i beams and never had a minute of trouble from it, sold it it to another contractor that also beat the hell out of it for the next cpl yrs and after not seeing it around town for a cpl months I bumped into the guy and asked if it finally died and he said he'll no, that thing was a beast and ran like a top but some moron that worked for him somehow caught the engine compartment on fire trying to dump gas into the intake after letting it run outta gas, apparently he didn't follow the rule of stopping at every gas station it saw, I learned quick that pulling in the gas station and telling the attendant, ya give me 20 bucks worth of the cheap stuff was literally a complete waste of time, I owned it when Katrina knocked out the gas plants down south and gas was over 4 bucks a gallon, 20 bucks would literally get you to the next gas station if you were lucky and going downhill with a strong wind behind ya, lol. One of the best, toughest trucks I ever owned and belive me I was not kind to it ever a day in its life and I think I paid 3 grand for it and when I sold it I got 2500 for it cash after 4 or 5 yrs of faithful, trouble free daily duty, I was sad when I heard it burned up enuff that he junked it, it would probably still be running today cuz the guy that sold it to me gave me a xerox copy of a magazine article of a guy down south with the identical truck with a million miles on the original block, granted it was owned by a Ford mechanic but it made me feel good enuff to part with my 3 grand for a vehicle with over a quarter million miles on it which I would never do otherwise but it seems those cheap beaters are always the best buys that never let u down, no reason to use first gear, not even fully loaded and starting off on a steep hill, 2nd gear was strong as you would ever need, first gear was just overkill
I want both to pull and work out of to know for my usage. Have had a 7.3 these past 13 years but now that I drive 300 miles a day I’d like to blow up a 460 since it’s cheaper even though fuel monthly cost more I’m still getting fuel payed for
GUTZ-OF- GODZ Traction... If one is spinning there's no grip being caught by the 7.3 therefore tractions plays a huge roll. If it was the other way around the 460 would've lost.Its 90% traction.
Rare Vibezzz I never said it didn't i said IF both trucks had traction I was saying both trucks had traction and u r right yes traction does play a high roll in this and the 460 has more traction cuz a 460 is a towing engine
I have cummins in a dodge now, but ive had both these style older trucks. Why the hell would u do this to 2 really nice trucks? Must be little egos at work here. Go out on the lawn and beat the daylights outta eachother instead of the trucks! Lol!
Texassince1836 no. the 7.3 powerstroke is direct injection. glow plugs have nothing to do with it being IDI or DI you dont know what youre talking about bud. this one is IDI. no only few diesels are IDI. like the 80's 6.9 early 90's 7.3 are NA IDI in 94.5 they came out with the 7.3 PSD
94 460 fuel injection best engine Ford ever made, well over 300000 on mine and still goin'. Can still do looooong burn outs on it too. Replaced oil pump not too long ago, spun it and #6 cylinder showed some minor scoring, guess the wiper has gone bad. All others can still see original honing. No noticeable wear on bearings. Thrust bearing doesn't seem to have any play either!
jrryc1 your 93-97 f150 is fucking UGLY. its underpowered , it aint even a real ford truck . Go 10 to 15 years older for the coolest bodystyle f150 ever made ..... and get yourself a built curberatored 351 Windsor....? It'll put to shame your shit bucket 460. Btw - hasn't been a real 460 made since the 70s.
Why do people do these sort of things to their vehicles; don’t they realize they’re damaging their transmission and motor, and weakening the frame, and axels?
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Owned by an older Gentlemen.
Got a really good laugh out of that!! Too funny!
"Pavement princess" I miss the good old days of Craigslist cruising lol
What makes this fuel got into the oil on a 1997 ford f350 RV wither 460 gasoline engine
460s are no joke. I have one in my 78 ford and that truck will move a mountain. It will pass everything except a gas station
😂😂 gass hog forreal..
Videos like these make me want to resurrect my '86 460ci F250 4x4...gas was over $4 a gallon when the water pump went out, so it was either spend the money and time to fix a truck that got like 8 mpg and leaked oil like crazy from seemingly everywhere, especially the rear main seal, or get something a little more economical. I was putting a quart in on every fillup, which is really saying something since I was filling it up all the time. I do miss that power and the sound of the true dual exhaust with 3" pipe and 24" glasspacks...It rumbled the ground enough to set off car alarms as I drove by them, lol. That engine is a monster, and sounds like one.
I've also got to admit it was kind of fun to see the expression on the faces of young guys working at the parts store, when they asked engine size and I told them 7.5l 460...some of them get wide eyed and say something like, "Whoa, really?!" lol, always cracked me up.
@@eyellgeteven9928 460= 7.5. Got one in my ‘78 I 4x4 swapped but my camshaft just broke
@@martincurtis2257 I'm more about cubic inches on these old trucks...sometimes I can't remember the metric BS, other than on newer vehicles, then thats all I know.
I have a 90 EFI 460 4x4 and it’s the same story here. There is a reason why it has two gas tanks.
Hey man I get it, it's fun to see who's got the best pulling rig. That is so abusive on the whole driveline though, it seems like the winner of that pull was the camera man! Wanna see who has a better towing rig, put your gooseneck on and pull some ag equipment
it doesn't matter who has more power or traction, it's about the fun!
You deserve a medal. Nobody else seems to get the point. It's a father and son having fun
Its like watching two old ppl fighting one takes nap like one of those trucks just truns off in the middel of the tug of war
This would be more interesting if both trucks had the same tires, the same weight in back and the same driver (I know that can't happen, but it's likely the biggest factor.), then it would be closer to showing which engine is better at pulling. It looks to me like the diesel has more street oriented tires, and the 460 powered truck had more aggressive tires, that's why it looked like something was going to snap on the 460 powered truck, it was getting more traction.
We’re these both stick of automatic? Both of these trucks are great. I’d take a good 460 over the new trucks, but I drive a 93 idi & she’s been doing well as of now. I get about 16-20mpg city & highway. Highway is like 20mpg, city is like 15-17 ish. Got a ZF5 2wd & 3.55 gears.
Had a 95 7.3 w 4.10s & threw a 3.55 axle in it before I got my 93 before I started to have issues w head gaskets & injectors.
Bet that 460 gets 5mpg or for them gassers it’s smiles per gallon of fuel.
You also can't just outright floor it because then you break traction and end up getting pulled. Gotta find the sweet spot where the tires barely slip
You did notice the chevy in the back ground looking on saying I don't want no part of this!
Poor Chevy had no chance little 2wd inline 6 that barely ran and wouldn't move lol
Both are tough trucks. I have owned both. 460 will wind up and pull hard from the bottom to redline. And get 5mpg with a heavy load. 7.3 takes a bit to get them going but once turbo is spooled at 2,500rpm. You can't pull em down. 11mpg doing it. Looks like 7.3 has a bit of advanced in the front. The old 460 is stout.
love my 7.3 its got over half million k and still going strong people just need to maintenance on the truck and it will last forever
this now made me consider the 460 over the 7.3l
Until you look as gas Milage
I used to have a 96 F250 7.3, now I have an 89 F350 460
I have a 94 7.3 idi and a 95 460 super cab. The diesel has torque and the 460 has power
the 460 is a bad ass motor prolly has more hp than the diesel stock
yep
Yes, probably it is a badass motor...I had one in an F150!
It does
Whats the rating for both engines
I should hope so . Its a giant gasoline motor . If it doesn't then its a complete failure of design . That being said , do you know the stock horsepower and torque specs for those two motors ?
back to back pull offs don't mean anything I watched a 2wd 1/2 Ton v 6 beat a 4wd 1/2 ton v8 simply for the fact the 2wd didn't have enough power to break the tires lose as soon as the other truck did the 2wd dragged him
LOL dog told you who was boss LOL
Patrick Baptist Patrick!
It's all about traction and physics...squids!
Powerstrokes are direct injection. 7.3 powerstrokes are the best diesel ever put in a pickup and will probably hold that title for the rest of eternity,
7.3l IDI non turbo or Powerstroke turbo?
And the winner is..the mechanic
7.5 is a great engine. Gets about 8 to the gallon but it was fords big boy gasser
I would've liked to see grandpa running out of the trailer, belt in hand lol
Looks like that was grandpa🤣
HA!!!
More likely with the good ol' 30/30 Winchester
Pulls like this only shows who has the best traction
And the fewest brains ...
True. Friction absorption wins. I'd call it a draw here. Which says a lot for the gasser...
You are the greatest.
The guy in the gas truck was hitting his brakes when ever other truck started to win then stomping the gas!
the 460 thats in that truck, if its EFI, has from factory roughly 245 horsepower and 400 pound-feet of torque.
the 7.3 power stroke (im guessing based on the badging) has 225-230 horse power (at 3k rpm) and 450 ftlbs of torque, so they are actually quite comparable, granted with a tune, and some other motor upgrades the powerstroke will outperform the 460, but stock for stock they are quite comparable.
Tough old 460. I've had 4 of them. Never failed me. My fuel injected '95 got 14 on highway. This older 460 did well, but by the looks of it, the tires were shot. Diesel looked well maintained. They all went over 300k miles with minimum maintenance. Better than the V10 that replaced it for sure.
It's how stand by your truck, it's how you drive your truck. "Vin Diesel". But no really while I can't see guy driving the 460, I feel like it's some young kid just putting his whole heart and soul into the win and straight destroying the driveway.
If they never failed you why'd you have 4 of them?
I have a 460 in my 70 dually flatbed, it sounds like a monster looking for food, well gasoline. When I drive this in the city, nobody, and I mean nobody, jaywalks in front of me.
I'm pulling a 460 out of a 70s dually flatbed to put in my 75 f150.
@@jamesweir139 😂
Owned a 7.5 in high school , was a great truck ! Then I own a 7.3 now ! Ford for life !🤘
I have both the 7.3 and the 7.5. Both are pretty equal at pulling. I just trust the 7.3 more for durability long term. Plus it gets better mileage.
and the 7.3 costs more money in maintenance over and over and over again. That is to say the 460 is cheaper to operate, but won't last as long.
Yin yang
@@gizzyguzzi the 460 last long enough if you care for it right
@@joshlower1 what's long enough? All I said is diesels last longer. I don't think the 460s routinely go over 300k without failure. 7.3s do.
@@gizzyguzzi idk man I've heard of 460s making it as long as any diesel but most don't care to drive them out that far
Hate to break it to all the power stroke guys, but my grandfathers 86 f250 with the 460 just turned over 500,000 miles. So there goes that whole reliability thing..
+Keihin Bracken ye it really all depends on the owner and how good they maintain it. my 7.3 has over 250k. nothing ever broke unless it was from normal wear.
my uncle's service truck has the 460 with 335k miles and that's 335k miles of hauling a 14k lb truck. the 7.3 is definitely the more reliable engine but the 460 is still great.
+runeshark22 you buy a diesel for reliability and because they produce higher torque at lower rpm.
SRT Viper 51 well the reliability comes with a cost. you need parts, you're gonna pay. the trucks cost more up front, the fuel costs more, everything about them is more expensive to own. And I'm not hauling a bulldozer 1200 miles a couple times a week, I don't need that kind of torque. I'm pulling a race car to a drag strip or pullng firewood, stuff that I never need to max out the GCWR on a big diesel, I'm perfectly content with a ballsy gas engine for my uses.
+runeshark22 diesel cost less than gas. If you're not towing, you don't need diesel. Stick with a gasser since you don't tow. But don't compare the two. Nobody believes gasses are more reliable. They hit higher Temps. The also guzzle up fuel in order to match what a diesel can produce. The drop in MPGs on a diesel while towing isn't nearly as much as a gasser would drop.
These pull offs are fun to watch, but in reality only show which vehicle has more traction. The guy with the heaviest truck and biggest tires usually takes the win. There's a video with a Duramax 4x4 pulling a 10 wheel tractor around here on TH-cam.
A real test would be a drag race uphill with a trailer grossing about 10K.
I love 460's. they have endless power. my neighbor has one and he put an exhaust and heads on it. when he starts that beast in the morning I swear he could wake up the neighborhood
Chance Bubier some people get pissed about waking up from loud truck but me personally I don’t give a damn I love it🤣
My truck would probably pull both of those, 16 pounds boost on my Ford 300 with 3.55 diff and T18 manual with 4 wheel drive and 4 low
I gotta 79 with the 460 and it is straight piped and soon to have headers... cannot wait!
I wouldn't say endless power.. they're good motors, but I still would take my 7.3 over my 460 powered truck if it came down to it
The 7.5L is a great gas engine,even though the 6.8L in later years has more power.
Too bad the strap didnt break sending one truck through the garage. Would have made for a better video.
Jody Fleming lmao my thought exactly
Okay buddy just a joke we don't know the ropes test strength
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Iggy pop candy
Circle V Bar Machine it’s not called test strength it’s tensile strength
But almost nothing to slip off the ball it's looped over.
i noticed the 7.3 was a idi not power stroke
It is an idi the person who owned the truck originally put powerstroke stickers all over it and tried to debarge the truck too by the looks of it.
I'd say the 460 & 7.3 are an even match! We don't know all the specs on transmission & drive units,but I think it was an even match! I had a 1977 F150 with a 460 & it would out pull a chevy 454 every day of the week! Wish I had it back!
its not because the 7.3 didnt have a turbo which it probably did, its because the 460 is made to pull. its the best and strongest motor out there... until you look at fuel milage.
I bought one new a in 89 I went through two motors and was waiting on the third (under warranty) 460 They got kinda sloppy on The assembly line color-coded pistons head block etc It ran strong I got lucky and herd a rattle from inside away from the normal exhaust noise
When they (dealer) took it apart it was Multi color markings
What a shame that was that truck was sharp looking and very sure footed It had a great drivetrain
I now drive a 7.3 (99) Best milage ever from a V8
Christopher Murray they're still some nice looking brutes 😀
The 7.3 is a 94.5-97 powerstroke which means it has a turbo and the powerstroke is made to pull too and is a amazing motor to. Not saying the 460 isn't great which it is.
Christopher Murray power strokes good for down low and once revs pick 460 takes over. each has their own benifit
the diesel won
Don't fuck with the 460 They are a camshaft away form being a serious beast!
If this is the best comment I’ve ever seen from a the gm guy 😂 it is a beast wym?
Lol GM guys always on Ford videos for some reason
@@BannedSports they are just wallowing in the pity because they didn't make the right choice.
God damn that wheelhop was painful to watch
Don't cuss out God
@Equnoxe dont use gods name in vain....did i say his name?
@@blackice7408 God damn it, god dang it, god this god that god everything.
@@legostar55 if i were you, id quit saying that
Try being there in person 😅 it was sketchy
What's surprising is that the ball hitch didn't break off and kill someone.
Right?😂😂 I think they’d be fine though, you’d need a brain in the first place to be damaged
When it comes to the early 7.3s and 460s it really just depends on which one you like more. Getting bad MPG in the 460 but not having to worry about costly maintenance or getting better MPG in the 7.3 and paying for the maintenance. personally I'm a diesel guy because I own a transporting business and I like the MPG and reliability. BUT for a straight up round town work/play truck. I'd go 460. Easier to work on/maintain. Cheaper too. And if you blow up a 460 just go to a junkyard haha you aint finding no good 7.3s at a junkyard!
Useful information appropriate it
I have a 1996 f350 dually with a california emission 460 and a 1997 f350 dually with a 7.3 powerstroke. Both are stock and the 460 will rape the 7.3 any day of the week. Low end or top end the 460 will drag that 7.3 all over the place. Although it will not pass a gas station.
My 460 runs out of gas at the gas station, but I love it.
Technically these videos show nothing about power, only traction..
My 94 f250 with the 460 will pass anything BUT A GAS STATION
That's ford power. Out pulls anything but a gas station
ovalracer44 you got that rite. I love 460's and have had a few 7-3's. love the f350 7-3 in the video.
Driving the 460 around town with no muffler on it is quite the experience.
I should replace or cut mine. Blew a hole in a semi- brand new cherry bomb. Put a tow package in an obs ford with a 460 and pulling stuff is even more fun, even though there's no need to really.
I have always loved the 460s, i got one in my 96 f250, and never have a problem pulling anything.
i love my 77 f250 flatbed just cause of the 460 i have pulled 7 454's and! a 302
Same got one in my 1997 f250 absolutely love it my dads truck broke down i towed it hime 15miles with a strap backroads couldint even tell it was back there even having to drag it up giant hills and twists and turns forever love the 460 not like the new stuff the kids r into
I'm betting the 460 had 4.10s or 4.33s in it while the 7.3 had 3.83. also the 460 was in a heavier truck with better tires
Trystan Waldhart true
I'd say you are right
Although the 460 is a better engine stock. It also sounds like a monster which is a plus. Not shutting down the powerstroke though, you get some turbos and do a little tuning those things will pull like a Mother F*****
The 7.3 was probably geared 3.55 if anything
Poor trucks have to have shitty owners
I have a 1992 F250 XLT with a 460 engine. Gas eater but man I love that truck
I think tug of wars are so stupid, but here I am watching another video 😆
lots ov stupid things are fun to watch ..
Before they even start my money is on the 460. Knew it. 460s pull like a mule. Aftermarket aluminum heads a longer duration cam and a edelbrock air gap intake and 750 cfm carb really wakes them up
What are the Axle codes on the trucks???. if one truck has 3.55 gears and the other has 4.10 its not a fair fight.... but even with matching gears I would still bet on stock 460 over a stock 7.3 idi
It's more about weight and gears then hores and torpue.
That diesel was definitely a 7.3 IDI. Those did come on the earlier OBS Fords, before the 7.3 Powerstroke.
willbill808 negative it’s a power stroke
7.3 has more torque, 460 more hp those are facts. this is a show of traction. the 7.3 will pull 40k lbs up hill I don't think the 460 would manage that.
I totally agree
@Jay no, are you saying the 460 is faster or slower? 460 doesn't have a much torque so probably close..
I have a 460 for sale out if my 84 Coachman RV. 60k mi on it. No title, in New Mexico, $900. It's the 7.5L
I am a huge fan of the 460 (never owned one) and the 7.3 (current daily), but my favorite truck I sold like an idiot was a 300 six 5 speed -- I loved that engine. My mostly stock 7.3 can't roll coal or do burnouts but oh God the torque!
Me and my dad got a project 460 for cheap cheap. Full crew can dually with the centurion package. The guy bought it from an old man and didn’t have time to fix it. It has no spark and we ended up pulling the distributor and she started right up. She needs a little more work, there’s still leaks here and there but over all for a truck that had been sitting under a pine tree for three years it’s in very good condition. Even in New York it has no rust.
@@GaryGang911 Sounds awesome!
Those Ford 460 s were some powerful ass Motors
My dad had a 1996 F350 with the 460. I have a 2000 with the 7.3 powerstroke. I love both trucks.
Back of the gasoline Ford had crap(weight) in it toolbox and such probably loaded down with everything to keep a rebuilt Dodge in top form.
And that’s why I ride with the 460🤘
460 wins, damn the diesel just uses less revs so it’s ultimately better for towing long distance fuel wise, but for shear dragging power 460 all day long
I've had 3 powerstrokes and one barley had 100k miles and neither of the 3 will hold a candle to the Cummins I bought
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my s10 will pull them shitboxes
Here something to think about also Ford as retained 62% of consumers where as chevy has 50% and dodge comes in at a staggering 22%. so now if ford makes such a horrible diesel why is it the they produce so much more revenue then the other two? And why did GM have to close their Saturn and Pontiac plants down and almost do away with Cadillac before they took their second government bail out?
People buy Ford for the name. I work at a Ford dealer and those 6.7 diesels aren't exactly incredible. GM was losing money with Saturn and Pontiac so they ran off the parts and got rid of those names. Whatever they didnt make deadline on they ran with Chevy emblems. They still make Caddys so I wasn't aware they dropped them. If you want to talk about bailouts I suggest you research Ford history. Ford almost went under long before GM or Chryler and they even took bailout money at the same time. Media will have you believe many things.
Look at that axle wrap and the driveshaft movement!
THE 460 WINS!
My buddy and I were doing this exact same thing when his trailer ball broke off and launched through my back window taking out my rear view and landing on the floor, shocked the shit outta me. Now I use a receiver hoop.
Love the 460's
I've owned both and now have two 7.3's. This was a lot of fun and certainly was more on traction than pulling power, but you put 25,000 lbs behind both and I'll take the 7.3 every time. I use to do these with my old 390 and pulled any Chevy until they hollowed stop. lol
I had a 65 f100 with a 390 and it could rip out stumps!!!!
the only thing this proves is one guys truck has better tires than the other.
To do the test right you would need to put an identical load in the back of each truck so the rear ends were both weighted down the same, then you would have to have the same tires on both trucks, lastly both trucks would have to have the same drive line whether it be two wheel drive or four wheel drive, both trucks would have to be on the same consistent surface. Then and only then can you accurately tell which would win in a tug of war.
I have a pair of king cab 1997 F-250's. One is 7.3 diesel, one is 460 gas. Both are 100% rust and damage free with low miles on them but this is a sure method of ruining one of them!! They are actually very equal in power. However my diesel gets 3 pg better while my gas is more forgiving in regular use.
yeah they just tearing up shitt not proving anything but who's rear end goes first that pretty bad on that ring gear an transmission.
+Blake Hooten I wish one of em's driveshaft would go ahead and just fall out I know they want to lmao.
Good ol 460
All things being equal, that 460 has as much or more torque than the diesel....... but ur gonna feed it 😉🤣
Tune the 460in to a diesel and then YOU get one bad ass torque monster of a motor that's how it done my friends
am i the only one who was waiting for the strap to break? that truck would have went flying into the garage or the gas truck could have shot out into the street when a car was passing by. cool video
I was waiting for a Ujoint to give it up
I have a 1983 motorhome with the 460 in it only 45k miles on it can i put the engine in something else?
Yeah that Chevy sitting in the yard is not qualified for this. the big boys are playing
That’s right...the big BOYS are playing in their fords...Chevy’s are for MEN and made for work so I guess it don’t qualify
chris medders Chevy is the absolute worst been working on all of the big 3 for 40 years I’ve seen plenty of each but GM is the worst of the 3 no contest
As always, the only thing that beats a ford is another ford. (;
steven memez Or a Cummins.
Andy Bradford a toyota? yeah good luck.
steven memez right on brother
These truck did NOT prove anything as far as math , science , and apple to apple comparison base on all equal specs ? Im a mechanic .... I can tell you .... thats gonna tear up some motor and tranny mount and driveshaft and specially the hanger bearings for sure !
Ahhhhh that 460, though.
Diesels have no power without boost. IDI's are a dog compared to the 460.
My motorhome a 1990 Ford Fleetwood Flair 30 foot. The best RV I have ever owner. The 460 motor fires up like a charm every time even when I’m about ready to run out of gas. Very quiet. Unlike his mine is fuel injected so from inside the RV you can’t really hear it running. They have made a lot of improvement on the 460 over the last several years. It’s a workhorse. You wouldn’t believe the shear weight these motors can pull without even a single complaint. No can’t complain. Only thing that hasn’t changed??? Average gas mileage is about 7.5 miles per gallon. It costs about a $1 every time I fire it up. They can use a lot of oil, so you really have to keep your eyes on it. Otherwise this motor will run with the wind on anything you give it, and keeps on ticking. I love my Ford 460 motor.
Hey, sorry to bother, I am planning to buy 96 fleeteood, do you have any problems with it? Thanks
I agree on the 460. The torque it has is unbelievable. The best motors that ford has made are the 460 and the 4.9 straight six. The 4.6 coming in at third.
I have a 460 truck I like it a lot except for the gas milage of about 10 mpg . I have a Cummins with way more torque it gets 21 mpg.
awesome! great video. ive got the 460 in my f350 dually. bad ass engine and has truely earned its stripes. both trucks in this are rad. thanks for the post.
I have 94 F250 with only 90K miles on it. I use it for work. I hate having to do it, but I like the way it just launches whenever I need to get across a busy street.
Can't beat a 460. I took one out of a 95 f250 and put it in my 67 galaxie 500 it's a beast. I also bored it 30 over and stroked it to a 8.5l I a 521 cubic inch now.
teach me how
7.5 vs 7.3
I don't like ford to much but dang dude way to fxxk up a truck
My brother has a 92 F250 w/7.3 IDI and I have a 1995 F250 with that 460. Both trucks are monsters. I would say my brother's is a bit angrier overall.
Only thing these truck pulls prove is what morons the owners are to abuse their machinery like that.
Want to win every time? Put a half ton of weight over the back wheels and drop the air pressure a bit and you'll beat anyone that's empty every time regardless or power, tyres or anything else.
Oil Burner your abviously not a truck guy torque matters almost as much as weight in truck pulls
and can get that weight and power down without good tires can you?
because these guys were clearly in a professional competition betting for money
Oil Burner Your exactly right, torque and power doesn't matter as long as you have more weight and better traction, because if you tried to face someone that had no weight in the bed, they're just going to spin while your pulling them everywhere, Think about it "Flyin Sushi"
Try watching a semi no matter the weight you can pull anything for instance a pickup vs semi without the trailer losses but with the trailer wins every time traction +weight +power get it right
Sorry but i did the same test with my 02 f350 and my buddies 97 350 460 I had him every time. did it 4 times (both stock) the idi isnt really on the same level as the 7.3 power stroke. But I respect the 460 it’s a beast in a different sense
they had the 7.3 in 2wd at first
Both were in 2wd the whole time the 7.3 had a problem with one of the front hubs and the 460 had the ttb front suspension and had a sheared pin in the diff so neither had reliable 4x4 so they agreed to keep it in 2
460 all day fuck them overrated diesels the 460 is emp proof! And you no what thear means no computer to burn up rendering you're vehicles useless 83 or older is what you need thease days a scary time indeed
the higher hitch lifts the other truck rear wheels (less traction) these pull offs don't prove much. Hook to a sled or something heavy and see which pulls better.
+Phil Huffman The videos I've seen on this topic mainly show who has better tires and suspension.
+Dave C and weight in the right area
I still think the 460 would win because that engine is a weight pulling monster, just ask my Black Betty 😁
don't forget gearing
Yeah barely not enough to pull the 7.3 up though
I had an 87/88 f350 with the 460 and 5 spd w od and that thing would go up a mountain in first gear and although it had a big grain body dump it would float down the highway at a 100 mph with ease like a caddy or town car and it felt like you were only going 55 it was so smooth and it had to stop at every gas station you saw, I was worried cuz when I bought it the owner was totally honest that it had 350k on the odometer, I beat the hell outta that truck for about 4 or 5 years using it to haul huge, heavy loads of scrap i beams and never had a minute of trouble from it, sold it it to another contractor that also beat the hell out of it for the next cpl yrs and after not seeing it around town for a cpl months I bumped into the guy and asked if it finally died and he said he'll no, that thing was a beast and ran like a top but some moron that worked for him somehow caught the engine compartment on fire trying to dump gas into the intake after letting it run outta gas, apparently he didn't follow the rule of stopping at every gas station it saw, I learned quick that pulling in the gas station and telling the attendant, ya give me 20 bucks worth of the cheap stuff was literally a complete waste of time, I owned it when Katrina knocked out the gas plants down south and gas was over 4 bucks a gallon, 20 bucks would literally get you to the next gas station if you were lucky and going downhill with a strong wind behind ya, lol. One of the best, toughest trucks I ever owned and belive me I was not kind to it ever a day in its life and I think I paid 3 grand for it and when I sold it I got 2500 for it cash after 4 or 5 yrs of faithful, trouble free daily duty, I was sad when I heard it burned up enuff that he junked it, it would probably still be running today cuz the guy that sold it to me gave me a xerox copy of a magazine article of a guy down south with the identical truck with a million miles on the original block, granted it was owned by a Ford mechanic but it made me feel good enuff to part with my 3 grand for a vehicle with over a quarter million miles on it which I would never do otherwise but it seems those cheap beaters are always the best buys that never let u down, no reason to use first gear, not even fully loaded and starting off on a steep hill, 2nd gear was strong as you would ever need, first gear was just overkill
I want both to pull and work out of to know for my usage. Have had a 7.3 these past 13 years but now that I drive 300 miles a day I’d like to blow up a 460 since it’s cheaper even though fuel monthly cost more I’m still getting fuel payed for
2:20 unhappy axle
only a 460 would hold its own against a desiel
This was all about traction. power had nothing to do with it.
More about who hits their brakes first. In the mud, then we'll talk.
Christopher Bradley Yes traction and gearing but the 7.3 I would say has more torque.
Christopher Bradley umm actually if both trucks have traction it depends on weight and the power so ya it does have a lot to do with the engine
GUTZ-OF- GODZ Traction... If one is spinning there's no grip being caught by the 7.3 therefore tractions plays a huge roll. If it was the other way around the 460 would've lost.Its 90% traction.
Rare Vibezzz I never said it didn't i said IF both trucks had traction I was saying both trucks had traction and u r right yes traction does play a high roll in this and the 460 has more traction cuz a 460 is a towing engine
I have cummins in a dodge now, but ive had both these style older trucks. Why the hell would u do this to 2 really nice trucks? Must be little egos at work here. Go out on the lawn and beat the daylights outta eachother instead of the trucks! Lol!
This is how to break your truck
Texassince1836 no. the 7.3 powerstroke is direct injection. glow plugs have nothing to do with it being IDI or DI you dont know what youre talking about bud. this one is IDI. no only few diesels are IDI. like the 80's 6.9 early 90's 7.3 are NA IDI in 94.5 they came out with the 7.3 PSD
94 460 fuel injection best engine Ford ever made, well over 300000 on mine and still goin'. Can still do looooong burn outs on it too. Replaced oil pump not too long ago, spun it and #6 cylinder showed some minor scoring, guess the wiper has gone bad. All others can still see original honing. No noticeable wear on bearings. Thrust bearing doesn't seem to have any play either!
that is the main problem with the 460 is the oiling system. but other than that its a complete power house.
I hope you know the 92 97 body style truck was a 94.5-97 powerstroke.
jrryc1 your 93-97 f150 is fucking UGLY. its underpowered , it aint even a real ford truck . Go 10 to 15 years older for the coolest bodystyle f150 ever made .....
and get yourself a built curberatored 351 Windsor....? It'll put to shame your shit bucket 460.
Btw - hasn't been a real 460 made since the 70s.
Why do people do these sort of things to their vehicles; don’t they realize they’re damaging their transmission and motor, and weakening the frame, and axels?