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I used to get religious on Sundays when the power block was on television and then it disappeared on Dish Network. I'm glad you guys kept it going, but it's there any way to buy every episode?!
I'm only 14 my dad is moving and he gave me a 429 ford big block and a 1989 ford f150 Custom. Thanks to you guys I was able to rebuild the 429 and got it running, Thank you.
429 has better performance in compare with 460 . they were on BOSS and Shelby cobra but 460 was made just for low end torque for trucks and big passenger cars like Continental . good luck young man !
you can get a rebuilt Fe long block from S and J motors for less than $5200, it's $2300 actually(plus core). I just had them build me a 433 stroker and with the stroker kit($3000ish) and Edlebrock heads($2100 ish) it was $8200. Which I don't think is ridiculous. carb and intake distributor all in for $10000 between 450 to 500 hp
E&M Garage probably online content becoming more and more plentiful. Rating probably dropped because people don’t need to wait for Saturday morning to watch their favourite shows or even get out of bed to do it. Just watch the online shows such as roadkill etc. Can’t beat a show like this though! I really enjoy watching people build motors on budgets!
Just went out and picked me up a 460 engine from my local junk yard for $150 (Savannah, Ga). Starting my project thanks to your show. Thanks for the video...
Autonomous Collective 460 is a nice engine. 10mpg whether hauling or not, level road or uphill, the engine doesn’t know what the outside world is doing, it just goes.
This inspired me to do the same, though mine will be sitting for awhile. It will end up in a street rod mustang, and the other one I got, in an old f250.
I hope you search the internet for your proper 460 rebuild procedure to incorporate simple "FREE" little modifications that they never even touched on, so that you have an issue free engine, that you may want to occasionally push beyond intentions yet still hold up.
One of the best engines ever, the Ford 460. It ran as a mellow powerful engine in a tow truck to a 4x4, to a station wagon. As a swap, the basic 460 gave the fox mustang 11 seconds in the quarter mile. Totally built, it made 2000 HP. Well maintained it lasted 500k miles. One great engine.
Love to hear things like this, bought a 76 Mercury Cougar with this engine last summer with only 80k miles on it. Slow as molasses up hill right now, but looking forward to putting some work into it.
I agree with the guy below, I used to watch y'all along with the other shows on Saturday mornings when I was a teenager. Then I would watch the fishing shows.
Back in the 80's I worked for Glenn Vile(He passed 3 weeks ago,great man) in Old Saybook,Ct he had a F350 with a 460 3 speed manual with rack body.that truck would get up and GO !!! RIP Glenn you were Loved by so many
I replaced a oil pump on my 460 while the engine was still in the car. They did everything the easy way, while it was out of the car. Cam journeys really fun
As an almost stock rebuild, you guys are spot on with the distributor advice here. 100% accurate. Beyond the scope of what you guys are doing here, alot of money will need to be spent.
1979 engines were rated BHP (brake hp, not crank)...so that 130-hp gain you noted was actually the crank you're measuring, not that 100-hp loss off the BHP reading...(and, of course, you dropped LOTS of problems by ditching emissions and that iron intake boat-anchor. Oh...and BAD MOVE on that parts-washer distributor move...you wash the oils off those bronze bushings in that distributor shaft, that shaft will wobble like a weeble in a week from massive friction-wear! ALWAYS soak that bottom end in 10-w-40 after washing a distributor, and shoot a few shots of motor oil down the shaft interior after such a move...those bushings will LOVE YOU for it!
Mike and pat I just want to say that you guys are not only great tv personalities, also the amount of knowledge and know hie between the two of you is fantastic! Love the show and topics you choose.
@@phantomwalker8251 uggh..... so much false information in this post i don't even know where to start, you sound like a Brit, go back to playing with your 2.0l 4cylinder diesel junk cars and let the adults talk.
@harry walker Technically you’re right, I own two old Chevys, but I daily drive my 06 Dodge Charger hemi. My first car was actually a Honda and I also had a VW for a short time. Diversity is fun, you should try it sometime. All car manufactures have good and bad designs. As a mechanic, I can tell you they all break and they all have problems. Although Toyotas seem to put up with more than most. I was thinking about getting one actually.
My grandpa gifted me a 58 f100 with a dead motor, and he gave me an old 460 laying a round so I could get it swapped out and running for a daily for school, found this video really helpful!
I had a 460 in a 1977 Ford LTD with a police interceptor package in it. 155 MPH on the odometer. Could get there and have some left to go. And it got 6 miles to a gallon. Not gas friendly.
My older cousin bought a new 1975 Ford Torino "Sport" with one of these 460 V-8 it was a GORGEOUS car, I got to go on a long drive when he picked it up from the dealership!!!
Never miss this episodes of Powernation back in the day on Spike but at least it is now on the History Channel on Sunday Mornings Since I was a Kid I Loved to Work on Engines and Cars
I understand this is a budget build and they did a fantastic job at it. But can you imagine if they used Roller Rockers, Roller Lifters and did a little Cylinder Head Polishing.
This takes me back to the early 80's where I bought and rebuilt on a budget, a 1972 429 engine for my '68 Galaxy 500 I took a blown 302 out of. That car was crazy assed fast after the engine swap.
Always thought 460's were the forgotten big blocks. I believe Hot Rod did a build years ago where they milled the heads to bump compression, mild porting on the heads, timing swap to get rid of the built-in advance put on the truck engines, aftermarket intake and headers and made 500 hp.
Mostly because they never had a hot 460 in a muscle car. Sure the boss 429 was a force to be reckoned with, but they don’t think of it as the same engine. Out of all 454 ever in a car, most were turds in trucks. What gives them the image was the LS6 in the chevelle. The 460 never got anything like that. Just Lincoln duty and then truck duty. Good for us ford guys though, because they are more beefy than a 454 and way cheaper to buy.
@@noahgaray7923 - Yeah people act like 460 is surprising how much power it makes when that boat anchor 454 was getting ass licked by a 351w in the lightning.
Gotta tell ya, love the video. I did a 460 and trans from a T-Bird to put into a buddy's F150. A truck we 'intended' to just be a trailer towing rig. We kinda got carried away, My buddy bought a 429 Super Cobra Jet solid lifter cam & I'd read that the 385 series likes a cam where the intake opens @ 136 degrees before top dead. Well, that's exactly where the timing IS on that cam, but not wanting solid lifters I sent the cam out to a crank grinder who reground the cam down to the next smaller hydraulic grind yet it retained the intake valve timing. I started some minor 'bowl blend' porting and my buddy wanted me to get rid' of the big thermactor boss in the exhaust port. In fact against my objections (I'm NOT a cylinder head porter) He had me port the exhust complete and with an aluminum intake, a holley, headers and exhaust that thing turned out to be a BEAST! He 'regularly' beat 5.0 Mustangs and the like!
Damn! Whatever the hell happened to these guys in the show. This was my favorite power block show. I always dreamed of having a garage like these guys. They made everything look so damn easy.
Leave a couple of head bolts loose but threaded in when you crack a cylinder head off it's gasket. Even steel toe boots won't save your foot when a 385 series iron head falls on it, let alone a pair of sneakers. Go buy a lottery ticket - you're lucky.
You are not kidding when I was kid in the early 90's my dad lost the tip of his ring finger to a 385 series head that fell from where it was hanging. I think The 429 was worth it in the end...
Great pick up. I would have done the same thing as this guy. When you don't do this all the time it can get very dangerous. I almost had a truck roll over on me because I did not chuck the wheels properly. Safty first.
Good advice. Safety should always be the first priority. I replaced the head gasket on my old F-150 with the 300 inline 6. I took my time to remove the head slowly and carefully. There's not a lot of room for error with that head. At around 70 pounds it can cause serious damage to a person or property if dropped.
This advise does not have to do with a head. lol But tensioner pullies, Always keep your hand and finders away from them when ever removing or relieving the tension. My mentor lost have of his finger due to one. Was replacing it had his hand in between it and the inner fender well, and bang it blew apart. This is Canada so free health care, but lost half a finger!
Those numbers are on par with the 460 stock in my 70 Mark III. Supposedly 365hp at 4600rpm and 500lbft at 2800rpm. The Mark weighs in at a robust 4800 lbs however lol! Good video guys!!
Hey guys, love the build,, Use Brass plugs, steel freeze plugs will rust through due to electrolysis. Can't believe you pried the head off the way you did, especially watching it drop to the floor! On the rear main seal, its a good idea to offset the seal about 30 degrees to keep it from leaking, in other words the part line of the seals should not be even with the block but inside the block and cap. Hate using silicone to seal the engine, I prefer cork, use High Tack to attach the gaskets. Great job on pre-lubing the motor, that is real important.. Great to watch!!
Richard price ,, the 429 DOVE motor has the strongest bottom end hands down.... The 460 was a grunt motor and combine the 2 and you have the strongest big block out there.
Everyone knows who was winning the Talladega back in the day big block fords.. and the only reason you don't hear a lot about fords is because they're expensive and they last forever they're not Chevy junk.
Nice budget build, I definitely want to do a 460 some day, maybe for a Cobra replica with my Dad. But there's no way I could bring myself to tear down a 460 and put it back together with those low compression pistons.
@@jonhathaway2537 Sure, but there's more to a fun engine than just peak numbers. Higher compression can improve the shape of the torque curve, throttle response, and even gives you better engine braking, which is a big benefit on a lightweight sports car.
That would be an awesome motor for a 1973-1979 Ford F-Series Truck! I've always wanted a 1978 or 1979 Ford F-150 Ranger with a 429/460 BBF V8 built for the street!
You guys are expert master mechanics and know exactly what you are doing, and you have all the tools. For the average Joe, this same build would have costed $7,500+ because they would be paying someone labor to do this.
The average Joe trying to build an engine on the cheap only pays labor for machining. The average Joe paying someone else to build his engine is not who this video is made for.
I rebuilt my tired and leaky 1996 460 from my F250 4WD w/5speed. I needed something to drive everyday but a few more pounds of torque for fun. Machine shop bored the engine .40 over cleaned and decked the heads, did a nice Valve job. Cleaned up the crank, replaced the pistons to add a small amount of compression, added a RV cam, ( dont remember the specs and the paperwork went with the truck when I sold it ) a little beefier valve springs, needed to replace the flywheel and clutch so I went with a Carolina set (1lb more at the foot and 2x the hook up) worked the manifold with the help of a very talented friend along with other minor details. Finished it with a Banks intake and exaust system ( expensive but I liked the stainless pipes and how it was quiet unless I was into the gas) I wish i could've got it dynoed but I had a good increase in the whole powerband, I could take off in 3rd and about 2200 she turned into a beast, pulling people out of ditches in the winter got a whole lot easier. With some 305/75/16s I got an amazing 16 mph on the highway and about 10 in the city, previously I was getting 12 no matter what. Fun project, set me back about $4500.00 when it was said and done but that included getting the alternator and AC compressor rebuilt, new battery, new water pump, oh and an extra $100. To get the Ford extension housing milled to the block. Blew out my back about 4 years later and had to let her go, too rough a ride for a busted up old guy.
@@noahgaray7923 I loved the whole exaust, the headers fit great,it wasn't a hassle trying to squeeze them in. It was a tight fit but I've had tighter fits in a 1976 highboy. The exaust/Cam combination gave it just an ever so slight thump, once you started pouring fuel down her throat she got louder with a nice throaty and I have a cam sound. At idle it sounded different, quieter just like the sleeper she was.
Oh man, I haven't seen these guys in years! I didn't even know they were still doing this show. Joe Elmore does not age! Horsepower TV, Trucks, Extreme 4x4 on TNN, The Nashville Network. That was my Saturday morning 20 years ago.
Tip: re-tap and blow out any of the holes for head bolts and any other threaded holes before you machine and paint. Good idea to put block and heads in a rotational parts cleaner that uses heated chemical degreaser before machining. Then blow it out and re-tap again before assembly. That way any dirt doesn't get anywhere it shouldn't. Cleanness is critical!
Aways liked the FORD 460 for the torque. Kits & such, they’re more expensive to build. Much more than a Chevy. Just my experience. Good stuff guys👍Thanks✌️
Cast iron heads are amazing for tow rigs. They have a much better uniform clamping force on the head gasket. They take heat better than aluminum ones also.
I find this stuff fascinating, it's cool to work on stuff with physical feed back when your done. I work on computer systems, just not as satisfying. I can't even change my oil but I'll repair or build a laptop in just a few min.
My parents 1972 Mercury Colony Park station wagon had a 429 ci 385 series Ford engine. The HP ratings were 320 with a four-barrel carb with a single exhaust; 360 HP with a four-barrel carb with dual exhaust. The compression ratio was 10.5:1 and it pinged like crazy once octane levels were reduced in the late 1970s. The engine had lots of power potential!
@@codyparker679 & they kept the dished pistons,should of gone with 72 pistons.didnt they have over 400 hp stock back then..?.dished pistons & retarded timing killed them.
@@phantomwalker8251 no they had a measly 290hp or something ridiculous like that. They were considered the Big Smog Motor!!!! A lot of people used to call them boat anchors!!!
@@phantomwalker8251 1971 was the last year of the high compression engines. Earlier engines (up to 1971) produced 365 HP GROSS. The lower compression was done to cope with unleaded fuel, and yes, the 8* retarded later timing sets hurt the engine a fair bit. A set of flat tops with their large chamber heads would have been about 9.5:1, and they would have done better. I suspect shenanigans on their power for this, though - that was basically a stock build.
Just a quick comment, all engines in the US after 1974 had electronic ignition. How did this after 79 (or later) engine have points? Earlier swap to an earlier model car I assume? I must say I am impressed with the budget build, I get very tired of the "budget" builds that cost 12 grand, lol.
I have a 460 in my 1978 f150 lariat,and it has 487k miles on it,with a timing chain and new valve springs,i had to take it off the road only because the pistons were so worn out,it would not cruise 70 all day any more,this engine is incredible,when I was under the 300k mark it got 14 to 15 mpg,47 trips to texas no break downs,it needed rocker stands and rockers at the 400k mark,it added about 50 horse at the flywheel after the installation of the rockers and stands,they wear out and cause hp loss
Just worked on my explorer metal valve covers. To strip the valve covers, I used the old brake fluid after a flush. Two hours later, the paint wiped off.
@@cesargt5848 Ooof... I have a number of projects ahead of it, including finding a front end for the car. Hit a damn deer in it a few weeks ago. Can't have nothing nice.
I've got a little bit newer and smaller Ford, er, Mazda V6 build for a Probe I'm doing and I was originally going to just re-use the stock heads but I think I'm going to have them machined after seeing how nice those 460 heads came out. I have a set of 218 duration and 363 lift cams and Ferrea competition springs, I can probably get away with the stock valves lapped and some upgraded retainers. Thanks guys, used to watch your show as a kid.
That's very true . Trw made a forged replacement piston flat top and weighted close to the dished truck piston . Most went into premium marine apps like omc king cobra and Berkeley pack-a-jet. With the non smog cobra jet cam and the super heavy and humungous port scj cast intake and puny 650 holley, made within a hair of the 454mag .detonation was never a issue on 89 octane. I'm not a ford guy but that combo worked. And the intake would take a 750 holley double pumper ,which on a jet boat made a night and day difference in holeshot.
I built a 460 for my 83 mustang and it was awesome! I could pull it back in 2nd and start burning tire at 50 mph. Also they make a chrome paint that is actually chrome. It's very expensive but it's cheaper than having parts chrome dipped
Horsepower Tv , Popular Hot Rodding , Chop Cut Rebuild , American Hot Rod & Dream Car Garage were all my favorite weekend car programs 17 years ago miss Tnn Network & Speed Channel now.
Just purcshed a 1995 Ford F250 460. Florida Truck with no rust and 160K miles. Single Cab All white its been 4 years since you all did this video. I will glady allow you to do another "Build on a Budget" Let me know =)
These where awesome,had a 1973 Marquis, timing chain went. Replaced with 1968-1969 429 timing set, instant boost in power! Actually ripped the lower control arm out of the frame on the drivers side doing a burnout. Memories....
C8ve C9ve or Dove castings would definitely increase the compression and if you’re really lucky to find a pair of DOOE-R ( cobra jet) that’s even better.
The gross dyno HP numbers are about right. By the time driveline and front accessory HP losses are factored in, with new high rise dualplane intake, the net HP is about 275 - 290 given the stock cam with no advance. I remember when Bullet cams released their Ford "stock" RV cam for towing. It too required a high rise dualplane and less than 9:1 compression. It cranked out a whopping 625 ft. Lbs of torque at a derated 180 HP at only 2900 - 3,500 RPM. It was a beast, kept cool, never detonated and made almost 7 mpg in a F250. The trick is to stuff as long of a connecting rod you can in these motors if you want bottom end torque.
Had Ford put out the Lima series earlier so it could have had more SCJ heads floating around, it could have competed with the Rat in the 1970's for the affordable answer to the Hemi. It can go way over 500 cid with a stroker kit, and it has the canted valves thanks to much of GM's engineers running to Ford back in the day. But its hilarious how many compare it to an LS "with a turbo". Put a turbo from a 7.3 or whatever, and let's compare. Then there's longevity--if you're constantly running to the junkyard to pull out old LS with questionable mileage, you're kidding yourself its cheap. Do it once, do it right.
Here's a tip, free balance the rods and pistons, cheap 3 angle valve grind, something that would've only cost about 120 more bucks, having the crank counter balanced. Even on a budget you can get better numbers than they did.... Had a 66 Ford with a 390 outta a falcon 500, was pushing 418hp/470ftlbs, nothing too impressive, but hey in a 66 Ford truck daily driver it was fun..... I do miss this show on TV
I had a 460 in my 79 Ford 250 here to this day i believe the 460 is the best engine. They r just strong tough engine. I used my truck on the farm pulling equipment and got a lot of calls to pull other trucks out of the mud.
Wire crimpers have saved me at the track and the side of the road with blown couplers most cheap crimpers can be used to give a "beadroll" on the pipe until you can either weld one in or have one properly beadrolled..3m spray adhesive also helps lol
Lmao the coupler at 0:45 Pro tip: Get boost hose intended for diesels and T-bolt clamps. Diesel trucks run 30+ psi for decades without blowing off hoses. Basically any heavy truck/equipment supplier will have what you need, such as Fleetpride, Semi Service, Hose and Rubber, EVCO etc.
No replacement for displacement. Ford's new 7.3 gas engine will be the new age BBF. I believe it will surpass the coyote 5.0 in hot rods and racecars as soon as some trucks get wrecked so they can hit the market. I have a mild 460 in a fox body on a 10.5 tire, it's a handful and cheap and easy to maintain.
Since the new engine will be OHV, it will take up less room than many SOHC or DOHC engines and make for easier swaps. That is one reason why the GM LS engine ends up everywhere.
That's right, more room for headers, turbo, ect. Not to mention just a simpler design. It will have the variable timing on the cam, but that's easy enough to lock out, and someone will most likely make a cam for them to delete that. With a o.e. harness or stand alone, the limits are endless, I can only imagine the h.p. and torque numbers with that 7.3 and a power adder. Should be pretty stout, fuel efficient and reliable.
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straight garbage any fool with a manual can produce more than 360 hp from a 460. even a budget build should net 1.5 hp per cube clowns are smarter
I used to get religious on Sundays when the power block was on television and then it disappeared on Dish Network. I'm glad you guys kept it going, but it's there any way to buy every episode?!
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michael walker it needs naws
I'm only 14 my dad is moving and he gave me a 429 ford big block and a 1989 ford f150 Custom. Thanks to you guys I was able to rebuild the 429 and got it running, Thank you.
Lucky... 😒
429 has better performance in compare with 460 . they were on BOSS and Shelby cobra but 460 was made just for low end torque for trucks and big passenger cars like Continental . good luck young man !
Change the timing gear to a double roller and set the crank heat in the middle , then drive it
Gear.. not heat
That’s fucken Awesome dude to bad it’s a Ford but still cool you got it running post some videos or pictures of it .
Finally a budget build that didn't cost $5,200.00! Now I want to see it installed and laying rubber for half a block. Love it.
These days this would cost atleast $5,200 lol
Facts they said $200 for the engine I just looked and they going for 4K+
@@eherbo8645 $4k for an engine made for 30 years? need to look somewhere else lol.
you can get a rebuilt Fe long block from S and J motors for less than $5200, it's $2300 actually(plus core). I just had them build me a 433 stroker and with the stroker kit($3000ish) and Edlebrock heads($2100 ish) it was $8200. Which I don't think is ridiculous. carb and intake distributor all in for $10000 between 450 to 500 hp
@@eherbo8645 nah you can a 460 for $500-1000. of course it will need to be rebuilt and cleaned up, but that's time more than money
Used to love watching you guys on Saturday mornings back in my childhood.
What exactly happened to the SPEED channel. I used to watch it every morning before elementary school
E&M Garage probably online content becoming more and more plentiful. Rating probably dropped because people don’t need to wait for Saturday morning to watch their favourite shows or even get out of bed to do it. Just watch the online shows such as roadkill etc. Can’t beat a show like this though! I really enjoy watching people build motors on budgets!
@@ItsJoshN I would watch it before school
@@ItsJoshN but I get what u mean about all the online stuff
this shit is theraputic
Just went out and picked me up a 460 engine from my local junk yard for $150 (Savannah, Ga). Starting my project thanks to your show. Thanks for the video...
Sweet. Are you going to record any videos of you working on it? I really like projects like this
Autonomous Collective what are you gonna put it in?
Autonomous Collective 460 is a nice engine. 10mpg whether hauling or not, level road or uphill, the engine doesn’t know what the outside world is doing, it just goes.
This inspired me to do the same, though mine will be sitting for awhile. It will end up in a street rod mustang, and the other one I got, in an old f250.
I hope you search the internet for your proper 460 rebuild procedure to incorporate simple "FREE" little modifications that they never even touched on, so that you have an issue free engine, that you may want to occasionally push beyond intentions yet still hold up.
One of the best engines ever, the Ford 460. It ran as a mellow powerful engine in a tow truck to a 4x4, to a station wagon. As a swap, the basic 460 gave the fox mustang 11 seconds in the quarter mile. Totally built, it made 2000 HP. Well maintained it lasted 500k miles. One great engine.
Love to hear things like this, bought a 76 Mercury Cougar with this engine last summer with only 80k miles on it. Slow as molasses up hill right now, but looking forward to putting some work into it.
At first I wondered why the machine work was only $500. Then I realized this episode is from 2009. That explains it.
That's for the heads lol.
Super helpful for those of us who are building our first engines....Love the step by step and the these 460s are all over the place in bone yards
My 460 was in my 1976 f250 camper special. I got 5 miles to the gallon. Loved every minute of owning it.
Damn your's was a fuel efficient model.
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@@joeford860 lol
@@joeford860 Yeah, when they said "surprisingly little wear" when they tore in, I thought "that's because they couldn't afford to drive it."
I still say they need to put this show back on Spike TV
no more spike TV where I'm from anyways.. looks like its been taken over by paramount
What's TV?
Spike is no longer around
These shows air on HISTORY on Sunday AM between 7-9AM ET
@@PowerNationTV Thank God with all the so called hotroders out there it is so nice to real professionals at work please air more TH-cam content
I had a 73 in a Marquis, needed a timing set, used a pre 1969 gear set , went from 202 h.p. to 300 something. It really wakes these up.
I agree with the guy below, I used to watch y'all along with the other shows on Saturday mornings when I was a teenager. Then I would watch the fishing shows.
Exactly.
Same here
Me too.
Went down hill when Stacey David left trucks.
I remember watching the show when it was on TNN and it was Chuck and Joe. It's still a good show.
I can never watch this 460 episode enough
Back in the 80's I worked for Glenn Vile(He passed 3 weeks ago,great man) in Old Saybook,Ct he had a F350 with a 460 3 speed manual with rack body.that truck would get up and GO !!! RIP Glenn you were Loved by so many
These guys leave so much stuff out of these builds
I replaced a oil pump on my 460 while the engine was still in the car. They did everything the easy way, while it was out of the car. Cam journeys really fun
I like seeing these 460s woken up... 366/478 aint too bad for stock pistons and parts. this was a great build
@David miorgan thats good to know
One thing I always when installing pistons. I always use rubber hose on the rod bolts. That reduces the chance of damaging the crank.
As an almost stock rebuild, you guys are spot on with the distributor advice here. 100% accurate. Beyond the scope of what you guys are doing here, alot of money will need to be spent.
1979 engines were rated BHP (brake hp, not crank)...so that 130-hp gain you noted was actually the crank you're measuring, not that 100-hp loss off the BHP reading...(and, of course, you dropped LOTS of problems by ditching emissions and that iron intake boat-anchor.
Oh...and BAD MOVE on that parts-washer distributor move...you wash the oils off those bronze bushings in that distributor shaft, that shaft will wobble like a weeble in a week from massive friction-wear! ALWAYS soak that bottom end in 10-w-40 after washing a distributor, and shoot a few shots of motor oil down the shaft interior after such a move...those bushings will LOVE YOU for it!
Learned my lesson on freeze plugs. Go with brass. First thing I noticed on those plugs was "China". 🤣
There's enough lead in the iron to keep it from rusting . . . .
Mike and pat I just want to say that you guys are not only great tv personalities, also the amount of knowledge and know hie between the two of you is fantastic! Love the show and topics you choose.
You made a great choice getting the blue motor with the distributor up front where it's supposed to be!
Distributors are obsolete. Engines are engines though, build what works and run it. Blind brand loyalty is for suckers.
@@phantomwalker8251 You tell em ford guy.
@@phantomwalker8251 uggh..... so much false information in this post i don't even know where to start, you sound like a Brit, go back to playing with your 2.0l 4cylinder diesel junk cars and let the adults talk.
@harry walker Technically you’re right, I own two old Chevys, but I daily drive my 06 Dodge Charger hemi. My first car was actually a Honda and I also had a VW for a short time. Diversity is fun, you should try it sometime. All car manufactures have good and bad designs. As a mechanic, I can tell you they all break and they all have problems. Although Toyotas seem to put up with more than most. I was thinking about getting one actually.
Dam take it easy fellas we don’t need anymore keyboard warriors than we already got
Freeze plugs can rust and corrode from the outside in. Does take time and environment. I do like bronze plugs even if they are for marine apps.
I love to see old engines get a second life.
460 was used in up to 1996
When they are doing it it looks like Legos.
My mechanic: This oil change is very tricky, very expensive.
Get a new mechanic
You take out 1 bolt to drain it and twist the canister (forgot name)
@@chunkiermango7982 did you forget the word oil filter? That's kind of impressive really
@@acerbicgeoff7821 you know of those migraines that make you forget/say diffrent words then what you are trying to say i had one of those
@@acerbicgeoff7821 Well it IS a filter in a screw-on canister.
My grandpa gifted me a 58 f100 with a dead motor, and he gave me an old 460 laying a round so I could get it swapped out and running for a daily for school, found this video really helpful!
That motor has so much more left in it...460's are badass motors....
Yeah, bore it to a 545 ci, hemi heads, domed pistons etc, that puppy would be screamin at 9,000 rpm's
666 stroker
I had a 460 in a 1977 Ford LTD with a police interceptor package in it. 155 MPH on the odometer. Could get there and have some left to go. And it got 6 miles to a gallon. Not gas friendly.
@@johnd4348 I put that same engine in a lx mustang 92 with c6 tranny and 9 inch rear end
they didnt port the heads, so theres probably 20-30 hp there alone.
My older cousin bought a new 1975 Ford Torino "Sport" with one of these 460 V-8 it was a GORGEOUS car, I got to go on a long drive when he picked it up from the dealership!!!
Never miss this episodes of Powernation back in the day on Spike but at least it is now on the History Channel on Sunday Mornings Since I was a Kid I Loved to Work on Engines and Cars
Enjoy the episodes of Powerblock / Power nation , we have not had them up here in Canada for over 10yrs. Cheers
.guys, all the best.
Thank you for posting this video. You guys are amazing. It's 3:28 a.m. New York City Thursday July 25th trying to learn about engines and cars.
Damn a beautiful rebuild for that price! Love the 460.
I understand this is a budget build and they did a fantastic job at it. But can you imagine if they used Roller Rockers, Roller Lifters and did a little Cylinder Head Polishing.
This takes me back to the early 80's where I bought and rebuilt on a budget, a 1972 429 engine for my '68 Galaxy 500 I took a blown 302 out of. That car was crazy assed fast after the engine swap.
My first 460 BB was a 1978 Mercury Grand Marquise Brougham. I built it back in 2000 with Ersson part's. Nice build guy's
Always thought 460's were the forgotten big blocks. I believe Hot Rod did a build years ago where they milled the heads to bump compression, mild porting on the heads, timing swap to get rid of the built-in advance put on the truck engines, aftermarket intake and headers and made 500 hp.
Mostly because they never had a hot 460 in a muscle car. Sure the boss 429 was a force to be reckoned with, but they don’t think of it as the same engine. Out of all 454 ever in a car, most were turds in trucks. What gives them the image was the LS6 in the chevelle. The 460 never got anything like that. Just Lincoln duty and then truck duty. Good for us ford guys though, because they are more beefy than a 454 and way cheaper to buy.
@@noahgaray7923 - Yeah people act like 460 is surprising how much power it makes when that boat anchor 454 was getting ass licked by a 351w in the lightning.
Gotta tell ya, love the video. I did a 460 and trans from a T-Bird to put into a buddy's F150. A truck we 'intended' to just be a trailer towing rig. We kinda got carried away, My buddy bought a 429 Super Cobra Jet solid lifter cam & I'd read that the 385 series likes a cam where the intake opens @ 136 degrees before top dead. Well, that's exactly where the timing IS on that cam, but not wanting solid lifters I sent the cam out to a crank grinder who reground the cam down to the next smaller hydraulic grind yet it retained the intake valve timing. I started some minor 'bowl blend' porting and my buddy wanted me to get rid' of the big thermactor boss in the exhaust port. In fact against my objections (I'm NOT a cylinder head porter) He had me port the exhust complete and with an aluminum intake, a holley, headers and exhaust that thing turned out to be a BEAST! He 'regularly' beat 5.0 Mustangs and the like!
Damn! Whatever the hell happened to these guys in the show. This was my favorite power block show. I always dreamed of having a garage like these guys. They made everything look so damn easy.
Horsepower changed to Engine Power and airs Sunday AM on HISTORY between 7-9AM ET/PT. Mike Galley is still a host of the show.
@@PowerNationTV what about posting new episodes, not the ten-year-old out of date stuff?
I miss horse power tv was always good Saturday morning to watch.
Leave a couple of head bolts loose but threaded in when you crack a cylinder head off it's gasket. Even steel toe boots won't save your foot when a 385 series iron head falls on it, let alone a pair of sneakers. Go buy a lottery ticket - you're lucky.
I was thinking the same then buddy would have lost some toes for sure.
You are not kidding when I was kid in the early 90's my dad lost the tip of his ring finger to a 385 series head that fell from where it was hanging. I think The 429 was worth it in the end...
Great pick up. I would have done the same thing as this guy. When you don't do this all the time it can get very dangerous. I almost had a truck roll over on me because I did not chuck the wheels properly. Safty first.
Good advice. Safety should always be the first priority. I replaced the head gasket on my old F-150 with the 300 inline 6. I took my time to remove the head slowly and carefully. There's not a lot of room for error with that head. At around 70 pounds it can cause serious damage to a person or property if dropped.
This advise does not have to do with a head. lol But tensioner pullies, Always keep your hand and finders away from them when ever removing or relieving the tension. My mentor lost have of his finger due to one. Was replacing it had his hand in between it and the inner fender well, and bang it blew apart. This is Canada so free health care, but lost half a finger!
Those numbers are on par with the 460 stock in my 70 Mark III. Supposedly 365hp at 4600rpm and 500lbft at 2800rpm. The Mark weighs in at a robust 4800 lbs however lol! Good video guys!!
Hey guys, love the build,, Use Brass plugs, steel freeze plugs will rust through due to electrolysis. Can't believe you pried the head off the way you did, especially watching it drop to the floor! On the rear main seal, its a good idea to offset the seal about 30 degrees to keep it from leaking, in other words the part line of the seals should not be even with the block but inside the block and cap. Hate using silicone to seal the engine, I prefer cork, use High Tack to attach the gaskets. Great job on pre-lubing the motor, that is real important..
Great to watch!!
This is a 10yr old episode, just so you know.
@@1slotmech well, it was published Jun 12, 2019
Best motor ever built......... Nothing like the sound of a good ole 460
440wh / 426 hemi bbm dodge vs 384/460 bbf bottom end who wins
Melissa Crook No thanks! Been running a BBC in '71 F-250 4x4 since 1979.
@Adam Fears but who has the strongest bottom end design / parts in pre-1980 big block v-8 ? and why ?
Richard price ,, the 429 DOVE motor has the strongest bottom end hands down.... The 460 was a grunt motor and combine the 2 and you have the strongest big block out there.
Everyone knows who was winning the Talladega back in the day big block fords.. and the only reason you don't hear a lot about fords is because they're expensive and they last forever they're not Chevy junk.
I built a 460 back in the mid 80's. Sounded like a NASCAR motor and pulled like stink. Installed it in a short bed truck. Lot of fun.
@rustybuttpate Can't beat the big block Fords :) I hear ya about the gas gauge. It was worth it tho. Too much fun!
Nice budget build, I definitely want to do a 460 some day, maybe for a Cobra replica with my Dad. But there's no way I could bring myself to tear down a 460 and put it back together with those low compression pistons.
Still made plenty of power and torque . Shit intake , cam and headers woke that thing right up
@@jonhathaway2537 Sure, but there's more to a fun engine than just peak numbers. Higher compression can improve the shape of the torque curve, throttle response, and even gives you better engine braking, which is a big benefit on a lightweight sports car.
"A few hundred bucks and a few hours in your driveway etc etc" lol I miss these shows
HAHA Always made it sound so simple...
Still around just gotta pay to watch like motor trend they have their own streaming service.
@@tegrityfarms4975 on history channel too.
I am mostly a GM and Mopar guy but the 460 Ford a good engine!
That would be an awesome motor for a 1973-1979 Ford F-Series Truck! I've always wanted a 1978 or 1979 Ford F-150 Ranger with a 429/460 BBF V8 built for the street!
For a shade over $2k this motor ain't half bad!
Great to see these big block Ford getting some love.
You guys are expert master mechanics and know exactly what you are doing, and you have all the tools. For the average Joe, this same build would have costed $7,500+ because they would be paying someone labor to do this.
These guys are TV guys. You don't see the real ones doing the work.
The average Joe trying to build an engine on the cheap only pays labor for machining. The average Joe paying someone else to build his engine is not who this video is made for.
Cheap anything days are over
I rebuilt my tired and leaky 1996 460 from my F250 4WD w/5speed. I needed something to drive everyday but a few more pounds of torque for fun. Machine shop bored the engine .40 over cleaned and decked the heads, did a nice Valve job. Cleaned up the crank, replaced the pistons to add a small amount of compression, added a RV cam, ( dont remember the specs and the paperwork went with the truck when I sold it ) a little beefier valve springs, needed to replace the flywheel and clutch so I went with a Carolina set (1lb more at the foot and 2x the hook up) worked the manifold with the help of a very talented friend along with other minor details.
Finished it with a Banks intake and exaust system ( expensive but I liked the stainless pipes and how it was quiet unless I was into the gas) I wish i could've got it dynoed but I had a good increase in the whole powerband, I could take off in 3rd and about 2200 she turned into a beast, pulling people out of ditches in the winter got a whole lot easier. With some 305/75/16s I got an amazing 16 mph on the highway and about 10 in the city, previously I was getting 12 no matter what. Fun project, set me back about $4500.00 when it was said and done but that included getting the alternator and AC compressor rebuilt, new battery, new water pump, oh and an extra $100. To get the Ford extension housing milled to the block.
Blew out my back about 4 years later and had to let her go, too rough a ride for a busted up old guy.
What did you think of the headers otherwise?
@@noahgaray7923 I loved the whole exaust, the headers fit great,it wasn't a hassle trying to squeeze them in. It was a tight fit but I've had tighter fits in a 1976 highboy.
The exaust/Cam combination gave it just an ever so slight thump, once you started pouring fuel down her throat she got louder with a nice throaty and I have a cam sound. At idle it sounded different, quieter just like the sleeper she was.
Holy crapp Joe, are you Robert Redford's long lost brother ?
torque wrench ?? nahhhh
i always tighten my bolts with 1-3 ugga-dugga's !
My man
They use metal gasket scrapers, with times like these, plastics gasket scrapers with do the job just fine 😂
My dad always said till your elbow clicks
Love the old 460s.
Oh man, I haven't seen these guys in years! I didn't even know they were still doing this show. Joe Elmore does not age! Horsepower TV, Trucks, Extreme 4x4 on TNN, The Nashville Network. That was my Saturday morning 20 years ago.
Check out the current shows on HISTORY almost every Sunday AM between 7-9AM ET/PT.
Tip: re-tap and blow out any of the holes for head bolts and any other threaded holes before you machine and paint. Good idea to put block and heads in a rotational parts cleaner that uses heated chemical degreaser before machining. Then blow it out and re-tap again before assembly. That way any dirt doesn't get anywhere it shouldn't. Cleanness is critical!
I agree. Take the time & do it right
Aways liked the FORD 460 for the torque. Kits & such, they’re more expensive to build. Much more than a Chevy. Just my experience.
Good stuff guys👍Thanks✌️
Damn u guys r right my old 460 spun off 2 harmonic dampners. Had to travel outta state to pick up a used one everytime.
Cast iron heads are amazing for tow rigs. They have a much better uniform clamping force on the head gasket. They take heat better than aluminum ones also.
I find this stuff fascinating, it's cool to work on stuff with physical feed back when your done. I work on computer systems, just not as satisfying. I can't even change my oil but I'll repair or build a laptop in just a few min.
Best truck I've ever owned 83 Ford w 460 and 4 speed I custom ordered. Even got 12 mpg unloaded. Oil field use and kept for 120k miles.
If you can, it would be nice to build a budget and performance 351W build
My parents 1972 Mercury Colony Park station wagon had a 429 ci 385 series Ford engine. The HP ratings were 320 with a four-barrel carb with a single exhaust; 360 HP with a four-barrel carb with dual exhaust. The compression ratio was 10.5:1 and it pinged like crazy once octane levels were reduced in the late 1970s. The engine had lots of power potential!
In 1972, the 429 had a 4bbl & 220hp. Up to 1971, 429 was 320hp w/2bbl & 360hp w/4bbl. All had duel exhaust
Just an FYI, a 460 will put out 500HP and 500lbft Torque with ease!
Sounds to me with those parts they were running a very mild cam
@@codyparker679 & they kept the dished pistons,should of gone with 72 pistons.didnt they have over 400 hp stock back then..?.dished pistons & retarded timing killed them.
@@phantomwalker8251 no they had a measly 290hp or something ridiculous like that. They were considered the Big Smog Motor!!!! A lot of people used to call them boat anchors!!!
@@phantomwalker8251 1971 was the last year of the high compression engines. Earlier engines (up to 1971) produced 365 HP GROSS. The lower compression was done to cope with unleaded fuel, and yes, the 8* retarded later timing sets hurt the engine a fair bit. A set of flat tops with their large chamber heads would have been about 9.5:1, and they would have done better. I suspect shenanigans on their power for this, though - that was basically a stock build.
Cody Parker Flat tappet can grinds are usually mild no?
GEARHEADS and BIG BLOCKS - big boys with big loud toys! Love `em or hate `em - they're never going to change.
Video starts at 3:34 if you're only interested in the 460 build.
Thanks dwinnin
I love how they show the bolts just falling out
My grandpa probably built that motor at the factory in Lima, Ohio.
My grandpa made cocaine in Lima Peru
@@tatitogarcia28 well where's the hook up then lmao just kidding
@@tatitogarcia28 your grandpa was a looser
@@fordnut4914 his grandpa made more money than your whole family
@@andrewcharbonneau1144- his Grandpa died of cocaine poisoning handling the shit and those very poor bastards aren't the ones that make the money.
Watched Horse Power throughout high school in the 90s, great show.
Just a quick comment, all engines in the US after 1974 had electronic ignition. How did this after 79 (or later) engine have points? Earlier swap to an earlier model car I assume? I must say I am impressed with the budget build, I get very tired of the "budget" builds that cost 12 grand, lol.
I was wondering that too, should not have had points; maybe it was a special order.
@@rickallen6378 apparently marine engines were exempt until sometime in the 80's. So maybe.
Truck engines had points until 1980 i think
Passenger cars and trucks have different EPA regulations
I have a 460 in my 1978 f150 lariat,and it has 487k miles on it,with a timing chain and new valve springs,i had to take it off the road only because the pistons were so worn out,it would not cruise 70 all day any more,this engine is incredible,when I was under the 300k mark it got 14 to 15 mpg,47 trips to texas no break downs,it needed rocker stands and rockers at the 400k mark,it added about 50 horse at the flywheel after the installation of the rockers and stands,they wear out and cause hp loss
I usually don’t install expansion plugs until after the head bolt threads have been tapped and cleaned. To each his own though. Nice build!
Just worked on my explorer metal valve covers. To strip the valve covers, I used the old brake fluid after a flush. Two hours later, the paint wiped off.
Flattops and oversized valves woulda made fora perfect motor. Needs diff carby.
well i have been missing out i just found this channel, now i get to watch it all from the beginning!
Welp, guess I'll be ripping the motor outta my 75 Lincoln for a rebuild then.
Chris Troxler YES!
#Bigcarperformance
How is your build going? I got a 460 from a 77 lincoln and can not find motor mounts ANYWHERE to swap into my 73 f100
@@cesargt5848
Ooof... I have a number of projects ahead of it, including finding a front end for the car. Hit a damn deer in it a few weeks ago. Can't have nothing nice.
A $2300 engine build for some good performance, not bad. Like it. Thumbs up!
Mohabat khan Malak ; It was probably a lot less than $2,300. The cam shaft and push rods looked used.
Love how you redid the stock valve covers 😎!
I've got a little bit newer and smaller Ford, er, Mazda V6 build for a Probe I'm doing and I was originally going to just re-use the stock heads but I think I'm going to have them machined after seeing how nice those 460 heads came out. I have a set of 218 duration and 363 lift cams and Ferrea competition springs, I can probably get away with the stock valves lapped and some upgraded retainers. Thanks guys, used to watch your show as a kid.
For the same money flat top piston (10-1), exhaust porting and a straight up timing set would really wake it up.
and detonation to boot.
That's very true . Trw made a forged replacement piston flat top and weighted close to the dished truck piston . Most went into premium marine apps like omc king cobra and Berkeley pack-a-jet.
With the non smog cobra jet cam and the super heavy and humungous port scj cast intake and puny 650 holley, made within a hair of the 454mag .detonation was never a issue on 89 octane.
I'm not a ford guy but that combo worked. And the intake would take a 750 holley double pumper ,which on a jet boat made a night and day difference in holeshot.
I built a 460 for my 83 mustang and it was awesome! I could pull it back in 2nd and start burning tire at 50 mph. Also they make a chrome paint that is actually chrome. It's very expensive but it's cheaper than having parts chrome dipped
Want to see what can be done with an unlimited budget? Neither do I...
No kidding right?
Well all know how that turns out
speed is a question of money ....how fast do you want to go
Horsepower Tv , Popular Hot Rodding , Chop Cut Rebuild , American Hot Rod & Dream Car Garage were all my favorite weekend car programs 17 years ago miss Tnn Network & Speed Channel now.
“Wanna see it again” to be honest I already replayed it 10 times LOL
I like this episode the tear down n rebuilding always impressive to see
Them work on there craft.
Just purcshed a 1995 Ford F250 460. Florida Truck with no rust and 160K miles. Single Cab All white
its been 4 years since you all did this video. I will glady allow you to do another "Build on a Budget"
Let me know =)
Should’ve done some head porting for the extra flow
I totally agree brother along with porting and polishing the intake manifold.
Even a little port matching would have made a huge difference
El_De_La_Lobo exactly free hp do it yourself port polishing
These where awesome,had a 1973 Marquis, timing chain went. Replaced with 1968-1969 429 timing set, instant boost in power! Actually ripped the lower control arm out of the frame on the drivers side doing a burnout. Memories....
C8ve C9ve or Dove castings would definitely increase the compression and if you’re really lucky to find a pair of DOOE-R ( cobra jet) that’s even better.
The gross dyno HP numbers are about right. By the time driveline and front accessory HP losses are factored in, with new high rise dualplane intake, the net HP is about 275 - 290 given the stock cam with no advance.
I remember when Bullet cams released their Ford "stock" RV cam for towing. It too required a high rise dualplane and less than 9:1 compression. It cranked out a whopping 625 ft. Lbs of torque at a derated 180 HP at only 2900 - 3,500 RPM.
It was a beast, kept cool, never detonated and made almost 7 mpg in a F250.
The trick is to stuff as long of a connecting rod you can in these motors if you want bottom end torque.
Had Ford put out the Lima series earlier so it could have had more SCJ heads floating around, it could have competed with the Rat in the 1970's for the affordable answer to the Hemi. It can go way over 500 cid with a stroker kit, and it has the canted valves thanks to much of GM's engineers running to Ford back in the day. But its hilarious how many compare it to an LS "with a turbo". Put a turbo from a 7.3 or whatever, and let's compare. Then there's longevity--if you're constantly running to the junkyard to pull out old LS with questionable mileage, you're kidding yourself its cheap. Do it once, do it right.
Here's a tip, free balance the rods and pistons, cheap 3 angle valve grind, something that would've only cost about 120 more bucks, having the crank counter balanced. Even on a budget you can get better numbers than they did.... Had a 66 Ford with a 390 outta a falcon 500, was pushing 418hp/470ftlbs, nothing too impressive, but hey in a 66 Ford truck daily driver it was fun..... I do miss this show on TV
Can't imagine what it costs to machine this today. And that's if you can find a good machine shop!
I just spent $4500 and that's with me supplying some of the parts. Timing chain, water pump, main bearings etc
I had a 460 in my 79 Ford 250 here to this day i believe the 460 is the best engine. They r just strong tough engine. I used my truck on the farm pulling equipment and got a lot of calls to pull other trucks out of the mud.
Hair spray on the connections will help keep your IC lines in place as a cheap temp fix.
Wire crimpers have saved me at the track and the side of the road with blown couplers most cheap crimpers can be used to give a "beadroll" on the pipe until you can either weld one in or have one properly beadrolled..3m spray adhesive also helps lol
Lmao the coupler at 0:45
Pro tip: Get boost hose intended for diesels and T-bolt clamps. Diesel trucks run 30+ psi for decades without blowing off hoses. Basically any heavy truck/equipment supplier will have what you need, such as Fleetpride, Semi Service, Hose and Rubber, EVCO etc.
Really nice video guys. Love seeing old parts re used.
No replacement for displacement. Ford's new 7.3 gas engine will be the new age BBF. I believe it will surpass the coyote 5.0 in hot rods and racecars as soon as some trucks get wrecked so they can hit the market. I have a mild 460 in a fox body on a 10.5 tire, it's a handful and cheap and easy to maintain.
Since the new engine will be OHV, it will take up less room than many SOHC or DOHC engines and make for easier swaps. That is one reason why the GM LS engine ends up everywhere.
That's right, more room for headers, turbo, ect. Not to mention just a simpler design. It will have the variable timing on the cam, but that's easy enough to lock out, and someone will most likely make a cam for them to delete that. With a o.e. harness or stand alone, the limits are endless, I can only imagine the h.p. and torque numbers with that 7.3 and a power adder. Should be pretty stout, fuel efficient and reliable.
duuude yes, i saw that engine reveal. im a huge mopar nerd, and im hyped for it.
@@frigglebiscuit7484 I like me some old Mopar now. That's another cheap big block you can make some big power with.
Scary looked like the steering
shaft bent when he pulled on it to get out before dyno test.
this is perfect. looking to build the motor in my 1972 lincoln Mark IV soon, i wanna see whats out there. thanks guys!
@Radeonr9280x A it is, matching numbers all around.
Work on building one of these right now! Bored out 40 oversized
460 can be stroked out to 650ish ci