They didn’t remove it. The “Pro” Mac mini is still available. This being silver and not space gray indicates that this Mac mini is meant to be for low end consumers.
I feel like they didn't change the size of the Mac mini is because when they launch the newer Mac mini they can announce "it's 9% thinner 20% smaller 13% lighter"
I love watching Linus complain about 10gbit connection that literally only 0.1% of the world uses and acting like its a big deal, Linus, literally only a handful of people can afford that expensive internet, just because youre rich doesnt mean every product needs 10gbit port, no one will use it so why bother putting it in
@@Glade4 Except they run their local connection. They need 10gbit because they have wires running through all of their studio connecting their machines to the servers and having connections that fast to their local servers will obviously make a big difference to them.
@@Glade4 I think their use case is mostly for internal transfer from their local network to the computer and vice versa so I don't think expensive internet is the reason you would want it. I don't think you can get internet speeds even close to 10 Gb no matter how much money you have. Most ISPs are maxed at around 1 Gb.
Just checking that none of ifixit screwdrivers would fit to apple's screws. Looks like they failed it on m1 mac mini, but they will get it "right", just wait for next generation.
gonna guess they didn't fix the PCIe memory BAR on ARM SoCs (usually sub-64MiB) being too small for what most PCIe graphics cards ever made need (512MiB+).
@@francistheodorecatte what's interesting to me is that somehow Nvidia and amd both release arm drivers even though their GPUs are unusable on arm devices due to their bar limitation(I guess there must be some arm device that supports GPUs but I don't know)
@@francistheodorecatte That might be the case, but Apple isn't using a "garden variety" ARM SoC. It supports NVMe storage at high bandwidths, an embedded GPU, and 60-80 Gbps of USB/Thunderbolt connectors. I doubt they would break eGPU compatibility with something as silly as BAR capacity.
@@manaspradhan8041 The Jetson series of Nvidia devices at the very least are ARM cores which run Nvidia GPU cores, and would require drivers for them. The Nintendo Switch actually would require those drivers since it's a paired-down Jetson X1. Not sure about AMD though.
They don't want you even replacing your screen on the new iPhones. They have it hard-coded into the firmware now that if you put in a "non-official/non-Apple screen" it will just brick your device automatically. Pretty dumb and anti-consumer/anti-right to repair, but hey, sadly doesn't surprise me with Apple.
@@DeathBringer769 Kinda overexaggerating there, it doesn't brick the device completely, just shows a notice in settings; Not as severe but still annoying nonetheless
Would be very hard for them to make, seeing as the mac mini has literally everything integrated in 1 chip. LTT has nowhere near the equipment, or expertise to do that. (Not hating on LTT, almost no-one does)
i hope you make a blender benchmark in your M1 review, because the other youtubers didn't, we really want to know how good the new mac mini emulate blender task
All that empty space inside. Clearly following their past transitions, the first generation using the same housing to reduce overall project risk by doing not two things at once, even if the new motherboards mean lots of empty space inside. The second generation is where we'll probably see it shrink substantially. Same as the previous ISA transitions.
Interestingly when you look at these benchmarks, not only is this the first generation of this chip, but they’re also only replacing the lowest end models of their line. I’ll be really interested to see what M2 in the laptops / Mmini and desktop M series looks like.
@benison One day you'll get some friends and graduate from being "that weird kid". For now though, you're still known as "that guy no one talks to because he always has to correct you on some pedantic bullshit".
@Abhishek Harge Well I assumed it as all three platforms (MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, Mac Mini) use the same chip and are basically all the same spec. Also because just about all consumer ARM devices are solid-state, fanless designs, due to lower power consumption and lower operating temperature.
@@enterthenuttmeister I honestly don't get the hate he's getting for his comments on this. Being skeptical about a product claiming to be 2x, 3x whatnot better performing than some device they won't even mention. Don't be gullible and believe everything a company says, question everything.
@Mir Osamah Ali Okay. I agree with your last statement. Pretend your Linus now. Shouldn't your first video released about this product be about the benchmarks you personally ran to verify/debunk Apple's claims? In what mindset is your first video be something along the lines of dissing the "non-distinguishing design" from last year's model, and "this is where the disappointment starts"?
Anders Wallin - there are many examples of Linus treating a variety of companies’ dubious marketing ploys with sustained hostility. He went after nVidia for there recent 3070 launch, he went after Intel for there launch the day before Ryzen 2 (I think that lasted a week or two), and now he’s going after apple. We could debate the ethics of it all but he’s consistent. He is also very against apple’s stance on repairs so that is surely a factor.
@@mirosamahali The fun part is that I don't even think he's skeptical because as he points out there's nothing to believe, when the reviews come out (they have) everything will be fact-checked. He just criticized the fact that apple presentation was so unclear on their affirmations, but being honest they always are. We don't know if it's a marketing strategy but it works. Linus hates it and people is missinterpreting his upsetness.
A Mac mini, just as powerful compute power as a base Mac Pro tower or core I9 MacBook Pro. Your loss that you are not excited by this achievement in processor tech. I’m in pure bliss and and excitement for us both.
Private Internet Access pays ShortCircuit to appear on their channel, then puts "As seen on ShortCircuit" on their website as if it's a total coincidence or something. Hmm...
He just want to criticize Apple his body language suggest that He is so stupid After every single TH-camr have done all the heavy benchmarks done and M1 chip is outperforming all the PCs and he can’t digest the facts that how Apple could come up with in first gen product that is way ahead of intel and amd
So far I'm happy with my M1 Mini but I must say with all that empty space they should have put in a larger speaker. The one they have now sounds worse than the built-in speakers in my PCs from the late 1980s. Which is odd because Apple sells more speakers than any other company on earth.
That’s a terrible idea it increases cost, maximizes heat, and increases weight and if your not using surround sound speakers, then you don’t actually care
@@thomaswinwood Yes, Apple sells more speakers than anyone on Earth, but most of those speakers are tiny speakers that you find in an Apple Watch, Apple Tablet, or Apple iPhone. Considering all that expertise, I think Apple should have put one of those speakers into the Mac Mini.
@@slandgkearth Try getting the type of warranty support or exchange we get on the PC scene, like Razer or Asus. Good luck. Apple is still one of the best in the business when it comes to customer service.
@@MATCHLESS789 Build a regular pc then. But I doubt you're able fix those electronics yourself, you're probably just regurgitating Louis Rossman stuff.
@@Hyperion62 He was talking about branding, not the thing itself. Calling standard PCIe BAR their ridiculous "crimson big-dick professional deluxe"-style names is exemplary stupid.
@@benjaminrich1653 Yes, "two very different"… meaningless marketing terms. The second one referring to having shared memory controller for CPU+GPU cores or 2 their MMUs negotiating DMA passthrought access for GPU… which no one referred to or mentioned here, except you, for no reason.
Being totally honest...I'm coming back to Apple. This product is the start of something very new and possibly the future of computing. I haven't felt good about an Apple product in about a decade. Buy a Mac Mini now to play around with, then wait for the more powerful machines to come out and the make this our family computer. If Apple puts the development support behind this I think they will, this is revolutionary computing.
Mac Mini!!! I was not really a fan of Apple products (PC/Windows die hard fan here) but I considered getting a Mac Mini. But this Mac Mini is not an M1, but a Late 2012 Mac Mini. It was upgraded to 16gb RAM and a 275gb SSD drive from Crucial. I am satisfied with how it performs on a Catalina, and I have yet to try dosdude's Monterey patch. I think it can handle it. What I love about Mac Minis is that they're robust and small. Its a space saver and its more like a portable desktop if you were to ask me. :)
@@soravulpis96 I had someone I know who needed a more powerful macbook to push two displays and was excited about being able to push "pro" worksation styles (2 monitors) on their macbook "pro". Too bad the M1 chip doesn't allow for that on any configuration that isn't the mac mini.
@@dhruvakhera5011 more likely they will add PCIe lanes, as that is the main reason why they only have 2 thunderbolt ports across the line of M1 Macs and why there is no eGPU support and 10 Gbit Ethernet. Next gens of Apple Silicon will change that, this is just their first version for low end market that doesn’t care about it at all.
Having seen the internals you might guess Apple has something on its sleeve to go full throttle on the PC dominance race. A tiny 10 Watt M1 PC board with 4GB of integrated DDR5 RAM, 64GB SSD, and a price point of $299, with an external graphics capability. Running iOS apps natively is the main focus here.
AMD's SAM is nothing close to a fabric like Apple's. Apple has a shared memory approach which means all components share the same memory, which is very different from being able to access another processor's memory. In Apple's case compute units go as far as sharing an L2 cache which is insanely more tightly integrated than having CPU and GPU speaking over PCI-E. In terms of computing this means you can do GPU offloading at zero cost. If Apple comes up with an Nvidia-like programming model where they provide a compiler that can translate some C++ standard algorithms straight into GPU accelerated algorithms, they would pretty much destroy the competition when it comes to high-throughput computing for which GPUs are heavily optimized. If you want to get an idea of how fast it would get, you might want to look at Nvidia's dev blog where they compare a Tegra TX2 against a 200W, 14 core Xeon E5-2690 for machine learning workloads: developer.nvidia.com/blog/jetson-tx2-delivers-twice-intelligence-edge/ Apple didn't invent anything with that architecture really. This kind of design was just waiting for a more mature CPU architecture to be put in mainstream computers.
This probably has more to do with debate of UMA vs NUMA memory models. Apple went for UMA now and its fabric is the biggest bottleneck in terms of bandwidth. That's probably we don't see 10 gigabit or eGPU support, esp. the latter as it would destroy the controller. We need UMA vs NUMA techquickie!
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color does indicate pro / consumer. anyone doing critical work still need the more expensive, slower, but more reliable Mac. at least for next 6 - 12 months.
@@Gobble.Gobble Their Dell Latitude 7350 2-in-1 was a unique broadwell based tablet+keyboard dock. Keyboard had batteries in it, but it didn't even last 2 months from what I remember. I have one. It's unique but had it's share of issues.
Yeah the Kaby Lake G based Hades Canyon was amongst the best NUCs ever imo (I'd have loved to have one), but was too expensive for the barebones kit. Also my GTX-8xxM series says hi!!
My question is will the next iPad Pro have an M1 or an A14x? My current iPad Pro with the A12z is already crazy fast. Right now tho I’m disappointed Adobe Premiere Rush doesn’t support the videos from my iPhone 12 Pro Max so I cant edit videos on my bed and actually have to sit on a chair in front of a computer so I can use premiere pro. If the next iPad gets the M1 I will definitely buy it. I’m actually thinking about getting the M1 Mac mini with 16 gb of ram. Problem is I just got laid off so money is gonna be tight for a while for me.
x86 is more and more using RISC inside it's cores and wrapping it in CISC, to run x86 instruction set. They are getting more similar than you'd think. On the other hand, arm is making more powerful cores. I think they will coexist and intel and amd wont have problems because of arm...
The best part of this video was seeing Linus take this computer apart. I am hopeful that these first gen M1 Macs will perform well but I doubt they'll get support for a lot of years. I wonder what others think?
Most modern x86 cpus from both Intel and AMD actually have a core which looks more RISC like than CISC. They do have a decoder to break down the complex x86 instructions prior to this. I believe Intel calls the broken down instructions R-Ops stackoverflow.com/questions/5806589/why-does-intel-hide-internal-risc-core-in-their-processors
He's not holding the screwdriver(with the blue end cap) most of the time, but what looks like some kind of plastic tool(entirely black). It doesn't seem likely there'd be any damage, even though it looks odd at first.
So you mean Apple, without Steve Jobs around, is going to a CPU design that isn't x86... Just like they did over 2 decades ago... Before they went nearly bankrupt? Without Steve Jobs around, they went to PowerPC... And almost went tits up... -grabs popcorn- Oh boy! :D
Small detail for Anthony to check: For some reason the same usb-c external ssd I have only gets 350mbs speeds on my Mac mini M1, but it gets 450+ speeds on my MacBook Pro 13 2017. Tried it through usb-c and regular usb 3 and same difference. Is the usb somehow different on the Mini M1?
11 minutes of Linus trying to find problems with an Apple product that’s made major strides and offers insane performance for the money. But hey, that’s what your audience laps up.
Insane Performance for the money? First i want a comparissm with a Ryzen. 1099.- is a very big pricetag. Ryzen 4650G+Mobo+16GB+Cooler 450.-, 1TB SSD 120.- PSU 80.-, Box 80.-, so 750.- give or take.
Linus: "You gave me a Mac mini and an iFixit kit! Did you really think the warranty was going to be intact when we were done?" The iFixit kit: "I AM the warranty!"
I guess you could use USB to 10Gb Ethernet adapter if you really need that, although apparently it can be quite expensive (although I remember Apple's option was $100 too, so actually prices are somewhat comparable to a dongle). But yeah, that's stupid and doesn't make much sense not to include 10GbE as an option.
Definitely a bandwith issue with the M1 chip. It only supports two displays as well which Imo is terrible especially for the notebooks since they already “include” 1 display internally which eliminates dual monitors at a desk for them.
@@skirata3144 You're talking about entry-level 13" laptops and a mini desktop here, no one who bought these previously was hooking them up to 16 Pro Display XDRs. if you absolutely need to have more than one external monitor connected to the laptops or two on the desktops then wait for the higher-end 13" MacBook Pro or Mac mini to get Apple silicon.
There's no purpose to SO-DIMM slots if the SOC uses unified memory for the RAM and GPU. The M1 only gets that level of performance with this type of configuration.
@Linus, Your last comment is spot on ! I dont think a lot of people understands the significance of this combined with Graviton and the latest 78C ARM architecture. Also Photoshop is now in beta for ARM native on both Mac and Windows on ARM and so is office.... let that sink in. If Apple did large cloud datacenters like AWS or Microsoft and made their own server version of the M1 the efficiency and cost savings in power usage and thus cooling would be a real threat.
Out of every tech youtuber. LTT are the only ones I'd trust to do a full review of the silicone itself (to the extent they can) My reasoning is workflows. What is this going to mean not only for average users but also developers? And what about it departments? My worry is that this is going to be a painful split for IT people to manage
Again, entry level Mac Mini. Also you have a SOC which includes RAM. The M1 is much more efficient with memory. M1 silicon doesn’t need as much memory as Intel silicon does.
That’s my future machine it works perfectly with affinity apps and multimedia software with low consumption and quick response. I know beeing a graphics designer is a nice market, but thi is the perfect desktop for me
He’s just gonna dodge it until the hype dies down and then move onto the next thing never having addressed it, OR, continue to dig deep for valid criticisms that exist completely outside the realm of performance claims, and focus entirely on those until it’s no longer a hot topic. Dude’s gotta learn to embrace positive evolution in chip development, even if it’s less exciting to him personally and means needing to look at things in a different way. Regular consumers want to move away from the shackles that came along with traditional computing, whereas many tech purists want to cling to them. It’s just not about judging things on paper anymore, and that’s for good reason. Apple understands this. Linus apparently doesn’t.
In the US that wouldnt void the warranty, all those stickers allow is the manufacturer to know if you opened the device to determine if you damaged the device or if it was a defect. Now if you damaged it they can deny the repair of course.
@baby bean Plus they were new products, not continuations of already well established product lines that people have come to expect Apple's great longevity. This is just Linus doubling down on his shitty hot take after the main event. Not sure when they filmed this video but every other relevant channel has already bench marked and already tested x86 apps like Photoshop and Linus is here publishing a video like "lol will Photoshop even work hr hr hr"
@baby bean macOS hasn't needed more CPU performance for years because Intel has failed to provide more CPU performance for that long, with the new M-series chips, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple starts adding more and more intensive features... if they have any in the pipeline that is. Whether or not the M1 will still be able to keep up with those features in 7 years, I don't know, but for the time being, the M1 is outperforming everything in the price/size range and that's amazing.
@@randomgaming8616 I’m talking *relatively* intensive features. There was a time when curves were considered computationally expensive so it’s possible that something we consider high-end now will become standard due to a new implementation. Obviously I don’t know if this will actually happen so we’ll just have to wait and see.
The next gen of Apple Silicon is gonna be a MASSIVE performance and feature bump so I do see where he's coming from. I still think you're right though, if only because they're still supporting Intel Macs for some years
Not sure what the point of a separate video for this was when it could have easily just been a segment in a slightly longer one that includes the benchmarks.
The reason they removed the 10 gigabit and sodimm slots is specifically because you complimented them on it last time.
They didn’t remove it. The “Pro” Mac mini is still available. This being silver and not space gray indicates that this Mac mini is meant to be for low end consumers.
@@MacFan2410 yet the processor outperforms it in every metric...
And thanks to the compliment,they will sell that option for an extra 100 dollars. :]
They did it to sell more.. whenever they wanna sell more of something they remove features and increase prices.. and people eat it up.
@@MacFan2410 ahhh we've got a product for you...the old one!
Linus: Puts it back together without the fan
Anthony: "Yeah thermals aren't looking great even on this spacious design"
It's passively cooled now.
It's silent now.
@@AurumFaber that’s only for the air I think, the mini and pro still have a fan I believe
@@CristienPerez he was talking about having only the heatsink... and it's a joke
@@nankinink Edit: nvm
I feel like they didn't change the size of the Mac mini is because when they launch the newer Mac mini they can announce "it's 9%
thinner
20%
smaller 13% lighter"
I mean........ it’s practically been the same for over 10 years now? Doubt it
@@00700556Do you actually keep track of the DVD boxes and their dimensions? Especially for ten years?
'more than ever', 'better than ever' blah blah
I mean, it hasn't changed since 2011. They never really advertise it that way.
@@icantgivecredit871 changing the size mean change the machines that make it
Linus: Handling products with care since never.
I love watching Linus complain about 10gbit connection that literally only 0.1% of the world uses and acting like its a big deal, Linus, literally only a handful of people can afford that expensive internet, just because youre rich doesnt mean every product needs 10gbit port, no one will use it so why bother putting it in
@@Glade4 Except they run their local connection. They need 10gbit because they have wires running through all of their studio connecting their machines to the servers and having connections that fast to their local servers will obviously make a big difference to them.
@@Glade4 The real benefit to 10gig Ethernet is to make fast network attached storage available. That’s why he’s upset that it doesn’t have it.
The exact opposite of me. My phone looks brand new after about a year
@@Glade4 I think their use case is mostly for internal transfer from their local network to the computer and vice versa so I don't think expensive internet is the reason you would want it. I don't think you can get internet speeds even close to 10 Gb no matter how much money you have. Most ISPs are maxed at around 1 Gb.
I bet the reason they didn’t add 10gig was specifically to spite Linus
@@ZexMaxwell they had plenty of space did you not see
Edit: 4:14
@@AurumFaber THATS WHAT HE JUST SAID FFS
Fact. Apple targeted Linus specifically. He will be getting a letter in the mail "No 10gig, with love. Tim Apple"
@@twizz420 I’m pretty that he assumed /s
@@twizz420 I'm sorry I thought I detected sarcasm. False alarm. 🙃
why did he keep poking the board like that 😬
Omg I didn't know you watched linus tech tips that's so cool!!!
Answer: In order to be able to whine why Apple refuses to repair his purposefully damaged device.
To establish dominance.
it's all I could think of too! CRINGE
because he hates apple products?
Apple’s ifixit kit was just there to test their new anti-right to repair designs of course ;)
Isheep screeching in the distance...
hah. perhaps.
I think it's because repair companies know Apple products better than Apple does
This needs more upvotes for sure.
I guess even they had to admit that ifixit's quality is great
Just checking that none of ifixit screwdrivers would fit to apple's screws. Looks like they failed it on m1 mac mini, but they will get it "right", just wait for next generation.
The lack of eGPU support probably has more to do with them not having GPU drivers available for ARM than anything with the Thunderbolt ports.
gonna guess they didn't fix the PCIe memory BAR on ARM SoCs (usually sub-64MiB) being too small for what most PCIe graphics cards ever made need (512MiB+).
I wonder if it'd work if you booted Linux on one of them, since the AMDGPU driver should still work on ARM.
@@francistheodorecatte what's interesting to me is that somehow Nvidia and amd both release arm drivers even though their GPUs are unusable on arm devices due to their bar limitation(I guess there must be some arm device that supports GPUs but I don't know)
@@francistheodorecatte That might be the case, but Apple isn't using a "garden variety" ARM SoC. It supports NVMe storage at high bandwidths, an embedded GPU, and 60-80 Gbps of USB/Thunderbolt connectors. I doubt they would break eGPU compatibility with something as silly as BAR capacity.
@@manaspradhan8041 The Jetson series of Nvidia devices at the very least are ARM cores which run Nvidia GPU cores, and would require drivers for them. The Nintendo Switch actually would require those drivers since it's a paired-down Jetson X1. Not sure about AMD though.
Customer: So I was thinking about upgrading my RAM or storage myself how do I...
Apple: *GET OUT*
They don't want you even replacing your screen on the new iPhones. They have it hard-coded into the firmware now that if you put in a "non-official/non-Apple screen" it will just brick your device automatically. Pretty dumb and anti-consumer/anti-right to repair, but hey, sadly doesn't surprise me with Apple.
yes but it doesn't have "ram." It has unified memory that obviously has its own proprietary requirements. Its not just some ddr4 sticks anymore.
@@doorey2 Yes, now it's kewl DDR4 chips packaged in SoC instead of being soldered on a stick. So kewl… so inventive… so… daring…
@@DeathBringer769 Kinda overexaggerating there, it doesn't brick the device completely, just shows a notice in settings; Not as severe but still annoying nonetheless
@@DeathBringer769 wanna help me go all out "Death to the MPLA!" on them?
I wanna see LTT do a diy PC built in a Mac mini enclosure. That would be interesting.
Yes
It would be hard to fit though
With raspberry? 😂
Would be very hard for them to make, seeing as the mac mini has literally everything integrated in 1 chip. LTT has nowhere near the equipment, or expertise to do that. (Not hating on LTT, almost no-one does)
@@Lucasfonoli still more powerful than mac
i hope you make a blender benchmark in your M1 review, because the other youtubers didn't, we really want to know how good the new mac mini emulate blender task
Pretty sure DaveLee did a benchmark
@@dunkeykung1162 dave only benchmarked it on cinebench, it is based on cinema4d not blender, and cinebench r23 (used by dave) is optimized for m1
@@tcroyce8128 lmfaoooo
@@rizkif yeah I'm stupid I thought I saw a blender BMW test somewhere my bad
@@tcroyce8128 king
I feel like no matter how this project works out, it's a really interesting step in tech history
All that empty space inside. Clearly following their past transitions, the first generation using the same housing to reduce overall project risk by doing not two things at once, even if the new motherboards mean lots of empty space inside. The second generation is where we'll probably see it shrink substantially. Same as the previous ISA transitions.
Same with the MacBooks. I anticipate some sort of redesign in the next 1-2 years
@@Virishking I think it will be a more gradual redesign
Would be awesome if they made a Mac Supermini about the same size as a Raspberry Pi, really take on the NUC market. I'd buy that.
I can't wait until the Mac redesigns. I hate Apple but their designs and the way their products work are interesting.
Apple did the same exact thing when they transitioned from PowerPC to Intel. No redesign of the chassis until the next refresh, I believe.
Parents giving a guest a house tour*
When they enter my room: 01:00
I laughed way harder than I should've
That's a given if you're an adult and still live with your parents.
lol Im dead
Lmao 😂 💀
LoL 😂🤣👌
For a split second when looking at the thumbnail I thought it was a robot vacuum cleaner lmao😂
Good finding lol
I'm fairly confident that Linus reassembled the whole product without the actual cooler in it before he noticed.
This is assuming he actually bothers reassembling them himself. He very well might, but I don't know that to be a fact.
"Jono: Yes." Come on Jono. You've gotta get wise to Linus eventually lol
“Linus Drops Sebastian”
Interestingly when you look at these benchmarks, not only is this the first generation of this chip, but they’re also only replacing the lowest end models of their line. I’ll be really interested to see what M2 in the laptops / Mmini and desktop M series looks like.
😅
7:41 Ah yes, I too love AMD Radeon CPUs
lol
it physically pains me to see linus not pop that wifi connector THE WHOLE TIME, even after he get the pcb out
unless..? 😳
@benison One day you'll get some friends and graduate from being "that weird kid". For now though, you're still known as "that guy no one talks to because he always has to correct you on some pedantic bullshit".
@@naoko3749 lolololol
@benison That's some weak trolling my man
AsinlOveYunz.link
Now you guys needs to make another channel dedicated to teardowning products.
And another one for Linus dropping products...
Linus Drop Tips
I mean there is one for his cats so anything is possible
Why separate two related things that could work very well together?
@@float32 LinusBreaksEverything
What about dropping things to teardown a product.
those mac spinning wheels were 👌
I honestly thought my mac was hitching when I saw that. 😂
You can also call it rainbow wheel 🌈
I prefer "The spinning beach ball of death."
Beachballs.
Linus: "I will close out this video, by closing it up" ... forgot the fan :D
He's not typically a fan of Mac so I'm not surprised :)
No fan needed lmao
Wouldn't have made any difference on the temps
Why did Apple even add a fan? I thought ARM CPUs didn't need one and that was one of Apple's big selling points?
@Abhishek Harge Well I assumed it as all three platforms (MacBook Air, MacBook Pro, Mac Mini) use the same chip and are basically all the same spec. Also because just about all consumer ARM devices are solid-state, fanless designs, due to lower power consumption and lower operating temperature.
On Embargo day:
linus: they delivered our system on time (just now).
mkbhd: I've been using this macbook for a week now
mkbhd got a review copy, while Linus bought it himself
@@2012knp I wonder why?
@@2012knp Well MKBHD didn't have to buy the product cause someone else bought him.
I leave this under every video I watched, it helps the algorithm...
Does this work for Instagram? I tried this in there and now all i see is reels of girls with ass as their sole content which i DON’T want to.
@@iambrucesz man this absolutely cracked me up reading this
1 comment does help but you are just spamming instead of putting something useful
Apple: 10 watt tdp…
RTX 3090: I'm gonna pretend I didn't see that.
running vega 64 sapphire.. what did u said bout TDP? -)
@@MS-pk2se Total domination power
It took courage to include that headphone jack
it uses 20 to 24w in real work
@@zadintuvas1 got it on sapphire cooler, repasted, new pads, more pressure --> 1800Mhz gpu, 1100Mhz mem, 360W.. love it. -)
Linus hitting the PCB over and over again makes me feel so uncomfortable...
he treats all apple products like this becauser he hates them
@@enterthenuttmeister I honestly don't get the hate he's getting for his comments on this.
Being skeptical about a product claiming to be 2x, 3x whatnot better performing than some device they won't even mention.
Don't be gullible and believe everything a company says, question everything.
@Mir Osamah Ali Okay. I agree with your last statement. Pretend your Linus now. Shouldn't your first video released about this product be about the benchmarks you personally ran to verify/debunk Apple's claims? In what mindset is your first video be something along the lines of dissing the "non-distinguishing design" from last year's model, and "this is where the disappointment starts"?
Anders Wallin - there are many examples of Linus treating a variety of companies’ dubious marketing ploys with sustained hostility. He went after nVidia for there recent 3070 launch, he went after Intel for there launch the day before Ryzen 2 (I think that lasted a week or two), and now he’s going after apple. We could debate the ethics of it all but he’s consistent. He is also very against apple’s stance on repairs so that is surely a factor.
@@mirosamahali The fun part is that I don't even think he's skeptical because as he points out there's nothing to believe, when the reviews come out (they have) everything will be fact-checked. He just criticized the fact that apple presentation was so unclear on their affirmations, but being honest they always are.
We don't know if it's a marketing strategy but it works. Linus hates it and people is missinterpreting his upsetness.
A Mac mini, just as powerful compute power as a base Mac Pro tower or core I9 MacBook Pro. Your loss that you are not excited by this achievement in processor tech. I’m in pure bliss and and excitement for us both.
New term : “ There’s A whole Lotta Heck of nothing going on in here “ .
lmao
accurate
I'm still using a 2013 MacBook air to edit all my videos. So upgrading to an M1 air is going to blow my mind :D
How was its performance now?
Meanwhile a half price pc will thrash it
ouch that hurt
@@girlsdrinkfeck So $349 pc can outperform render time that this mac offers? You must give me a link for it coz that’s quite awesome! /s
All macs have terrible hardware and software, they underpay for labor and they screw developers on purpose, why would you support that?!
1:37 that aged well, now you can get it with a 10 Gigabit Ethernet
The thumbnail looks like a "rapid unscheduled disassembly"
LOL
bc it is
Is ThAt A sPaCeX rEfeReNcE???
@@juanignaciojaime7563 possibly
Linus: Re-assembling the mac mini
The fan on the side: :0
Freedom is Mine
~ Fan on side
If it runs a bit hot we know a reason
"Wow. There is a whole heck of a, not a lot in here"
You know your goose is cooked when "As seen on Short Circuit" is a selling point. (3:31)
Private Internet Access pays ShortCircuit to appear on their channel, then puts "As seen on ShortCircuit" on their website as if it's a total coincidence or something. Hmm...
@@numberM4 they do that with all the websites and yt channels they sponsor
@@numberM4 Do you know what "your goose is cooked means"? It means you don't have any other good things to say about something.
Anyone else find the Wi-Fi cable being stretched the entire time really annoying?
yup. why did he keep it plugged in?! Come on, Linus!
It was nerve wracking to me.
It's one screw!!!!!! Arg
it was to show everybody its shit and he couldn't care less
He just want to criticize Apple his body language suggest that
He is so stupid
After every single TH-camr have done all the heavy benchmarks done and M1 chip is outperforming all the PCs and he can’t digest the facts that how Apple could come up with in first gen product that is way ahead of intel and amd
So far I'm happy with my M1 Mini but I must say with all that empty space they should have put in a larger speaker. The one they have now sounds worse than the built-in speakers in my PCs from the late 1980s. Which is odd because Apple sells more speakers than any other company on earth.
That’s a terrible idea it increases cost, maximizes heat, and increases weight and if your not using surround sound speakers, then you don’t actually care
@@user-oj8zo3cr4b Your opinion is valid, but 26 people liked my idea.
@@thomaswinwood Yes, Apple sells more speakers than anyone on Earth, but most of those speakers are tiny speakers that you find in an Apple Watch, Apple Tablet, or Apple iPhone. Considering all that expertise, I think Apple should have put one of those speakers into the Mac Mini.
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The sad truth
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Don’t let Linus fix your computer, he will likely leave the CPU out.
Still better than apple "repairs"
@@slandgkearth Try getting the type of warranty support or exchange we get on the PC scene, like Razer or Asus. Good luck. Apple is still one of the best in the business when it comes to customer service.
@@BrawndoQC Cool, but I want to fix it myself and I hate anticonsumer tactics Apple thrives on (especially for the last half decade).
@@MATCHLESS789 Build a regular pc then. But I doubt you're able fix those electronics yourself, you're probably just regurgitating Louis Rossman stuff.
@@BrawndoQC which is legitimate stuff to regurgitate.
-whats their stupid branding for this? Smart access memory
Amd marketing team: -_-'
It's not an AMD creation, linux has had it for half a decade.
@@Hyperion62 He was talking about branding, not the thing itself. Calling standard PCIe BAR their ridiculous "crimson big-dick professional deluxe"-style names is exemplary stupid.
Smart access memory and unified memory are two very different things
@@benjaminrich1653 Yes, "two very different"… meaningless marketing terms. The second one referring to having shared memory controller for CPU+GPU cores or 2 their MMUs negotiating DMA passthrought access for GPU… which no one referred to or mentioned here, except you, for no reason.
Being totally honest...I'm coming back to Apple. This product is the start of something very new and possibly the future of computing. I haven't felt good about an Apple product in about a decade. Buy a Mac Mini now to play around with, then wait for the more powerful machines to come out and the make this our family computer. If Apple puts the development support behind this I think they will, this is revolutionary computing.
It was painful to see that antenna cable not being unplugged. It's just one screw dude!
He even has the ifixit so he could have fixed it 🤣
I was looking for this comment, just whyyyy
It's not even a screw, it's just a "lego style" connector
@@tartarughina_1 go to 8:27 you will see the screw to secure it in place, it's the same with the previous Mac mini ;)
Mac Mini!!! I was not really a fan of Apple products (PC/Windows die hard fan here) but I considered getting a Mac Mini. But this Mac Mini is not an M1, but a Late 2012 Mac Mini. It was upgraded to 16gb RAM and a 275gb SSD drive from Crucial. I am satisfied with how it performs on a Catalina, and I have yet to try dosdude's Monterey patch. I think it can handle it. What I love about Mac Minis is that they're robust and small. Its a space saver and its more like a portable desktop if you were to ask me. :)
2:50 plot twist: they only have that ifixit kit there for internal tests on how to make their products the least accessible with the kit.
I don’t see an ifixit logo or anything to indicate that’s an actual ifixit kit
Reverse reverse engineering.
Can’t wait to see linus’s face when he does benchmarks
Sppiler Alert: He won't, cuz Benchmark are overrated
It will be just like it always is.
All the performance in the world can’t change the reality that these devices are locked down, non-upgradable and non-repairable.
He already seen them on the Wan show
@@soravulpis96 I had someone I know who needed a more powerful macbook to push two displays and was excited about being able to push "pro" worksation styles (2 monitors) on their macbook "pro".
Too bad the M1 chip doesn't allow for that on any configuration that isn't the mac mini.
Linus: This video is sponsered by...
Me: double clicks right side of my iPhone skipping 10 seconds
Same
Weird flex but ok
Me: Blinking twice so the face id on my iphone 16 Max Pro will recognize that i want to pause on my 10K Pro XDR Tv
Premium flex 💪
I'm betting we will see a mac mini with a m1x, that'll have 4 thunderbolt ports and 10Gbe in 2021.
hm... possible that they add another USB controller that gives them more bandwidth
Good luck with that
@@dhruvakhera5011 more likely they will add PCIe lanes, as that is the main reason why they only have 2 thunderbolt ports across the line of M1 Macs and why there is no eGPU support and 10 Gbit Ethernet.
Next gens of Apple Silicon will change that, this is just their first version for low end market that doesn’t care about it at all.
@@ZhuJo99 hmmm i agree
“I’m going to leave that to Anthony”
*Visible happiness*
Having seen the internals you might guess Apple has something on its sleeve to go full throttle on the PC dominance race. A tiny 10 Watt M1 PC board with 4GB of integrated DDR5 RAM, 64GB SSD, and a price point of $299, with an external graphics capability. Running iOS apps natively is the main focus here.
11:15 LOL he tried putting it back together without the fan installed 😂
Time to use it as a camp fire
AMD's SAM is nothing close to a fabric like Apple's. Apple has a shared memory approach which means all components share the same memory, which is very different from being able to access another processor's memory. In Apple's case compute units go as far as sharing an L2 cache which is insanely more tightly integrated than having CPU and GPU speaking over PCI-E. In terms of computing this means you can do GPU offloading at zero cost. If Apple comes up with an Nvidia-like programming model where they provide a compiler that can translate some C++ standard algorithms straight into GPU accelerated algorithms, they would pretty much destroy the competition when it comes to high-throughput computing for which GPUs are heavily optimized. If you want to get an idea of how fast it would get, you might want to look at Nvidia's dev blog where they compare a Tegra TX2 against a 200W, 14 core Xeon E5-2690 for machine learning workloads: developer.nvidia.com/blog/jetson-tx2-delivers-twice-intelligence-edge/
Apple didn't invent anything with that architecture really. This kind of design was just waiting for a more mature CPU architecture to be put in mainstream computers.
interesting - appreciate that little bit of insight! :D
This probably has more to do with debate of UMA vs NUMA memory models. Apple went for UMA now and its fabric is the biggest bottleneck in terms of bandwidth. That's probably we don't see 10 gigabit or eGPU support, esp. the latter as it would destroy the controller.
We need UMA vs NUMA techquickie!
What's the point of all this if the GPU itself is weak af
That's why the new MacBook can't even run emulators 😂😂
@@sushimshah2896 That's the entire point, even weak GPUs can speed up significantly from this
When I first saw this in my Messenger, I thought it was one of those portable stoves. 🤣
Turn it upside down and put a frying pan on it.
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Everybody Gangster until Apple releases LEG processors
7:32 - My brain nearly 90% of the time... but with a black and white mouse pointer rotating egg timer.
I miss the expandability of the G3, G4, and G5! There is so much room to add memory, storage , etc.
Is "That's right, my friends" Linus' catchphrase that must be included in every one of his scripts?
Waouh tu es pas chaud et la Bête Cabomba des 4 chemins Kaboom body guitars model year do you have to go to the Russia reply because that must be included in every one of his cigarette electronique a Saturday night isn't really good shop
@@walidfakhfakh3660 Pardon?
@@Mx.Canada le ya bhim
@@walidfakhfakh3660 where can I buy the drug you're using?
@@envigraphy what time it is Chicago fish actually matter in the cars need to feel loved time apart in the morning because of the musical.
They haven’t replaced the high-end Mac mini yet. You can still order 10gbit minis but they will have Intel CPUs until the “M1X” is ready I suppose
color does indicate pro / consumer. anyone doing critical work still need the more expensive, slower, but more reliable Mac. at least for next 6 - 12 months.
4:47 Linus' eyes beginning to fail him. Poor Linus, aging has begun. Welcome Linus, welcome.😂
Product that got abandoned immediately: Intel’s 5th gen Broadwell processors
or the dell xps 9575 with intel i7-8705g and rx vega m gl. I loved that laptop but intel stopped giving updates after like 6 months.
@@Gobble.Gobble Their Dell Latitude 7350 2-in-1 was a unique broadwell based tablet+keyboard dock. Keyboard had batteries in it, but it didn't even last 2 months from what I remember. I have one. It's unique but had it's share of issues.
Yeah the Kaby Lake G based Hades Canyon was amongst the best NUCs ever imo (I'd have loved to have one), but was too expensive for the barebones kit.
Also my GTX-8xxM series says hi!!
I never use Boot Camp on my Mac, but I was intrigued to hear that that feature is totally gone on the new Macs, although it certainly does make sense.
"And this is, of course, where the disappointment starts."
Excellent assessment and summation! 👍
"...and this is where the disappointment starts..." 😂
Is what my parents said when I was born
So Linus talked a BUNCH of things saying that “haven’t tested yet”, and now that he has it, he’s disassembling it???
so?
He probably dropped it twice before the review
he bought 2 of them
Don't turn it on, take it apaaaaart!
My question is will the next iPad Pro have an M1 or an A14x? My current iPad Pro with the A12z is already crazy fast. Right now tho I’m disappointed Adobe Premiere Rush doesn’t support the videos from my iPhone 12 Pro Max so I cant edit videos on my bed and actually have to sit on a chair in front of a computer so I can use premiere pro. If the next iPad gets the M1 I will definitely buy it. I’m actually thinking about getting the M1 Mac mini with 16 gb of ram. Problem is I just got laid off so money is gonna be tight for a while for me.
x86 is more and more using RISC inside it's cores and wrapping it in CISC, to run x86 instruction set. They are getting more similar than you'd think. On the other hand, arm is making more powerful cores. I think they will coexist and intel and amd wont have problems because of arm...
It took courage to include that headphone jack
Yes stunning and brave
You don't even need it because a device like this will spend all of its time in the bin
@@sivansharma5027 damn bro that was mad funny :|
The best part of this video was seeing Linus take this computer apart. I am hopeful that these first gen M1 Macs will perform well but I doubt they'll get support for a lot of years. I wonder what others think?
@annag cocl For these M1 Macs everything is soldered on. Are you considering a certain model?
Linus sounds like he's trying not to sound too excited
He is piss off on something we don't know.
Actrally he just finished the joker show and let another guy do the technical test.
Amd are working on RISC architecture... Looks like everything's going to head that way
Most modern x86 cpus from both Intel and AMD actually have a core which looks more RISC like than CISC. They do have a decoder to break down the complex x86 instructions prior to this. I believe Intel calls the broken down instructions R-Ops
stackoverflow.com/questions/5806589/why-does-intel-hide-internal-risc-core-in-their-processors
@@sdchew 😭
AMD also partner with Samsung on their Exynoss chip. They can learn a lot from that project.
@@sdchew if that’s the case could AMD and Intel release dual compatibility CPUs by either enabling or disabling the translation layer?
@@l4ndst4nder I expect amd to do that, intel nope.
*TAPS ON EVERYTHING WITH A METAL SCREWDRIVER*
So?
@@tab8k ???????????????????????????????????????
It’s plastic isn’t it? And not switched on.
He's not holding the screwdriver(with the blue end cap) most of the time, but what looks like some kind of plastic tool(entirely black). It doesn't seem likely there'd be any damage, even though it looks odd at first.
The old powerPC CPU's were RISC chips....Apple is just going back to RISC with ARM.
So you mean Apple, without Steve Jobs around, is going to a CPU design that isn't x86... Just like they did over 2 decades ago... Before they went nearly bankrupt? Without Steve Jobs around, they went to PowerPC... And almost went tits up... -grabs popcorn- Oh boy! :D
One thing, i always wonder about with the Mac Mini:
Where is the frickin' power button?
It’s on the back near the io. Left side
On the back.
Wow...
That might be the most inconvenient solution i've seen in a long time
+1
@@p3chv0gel22 Well it is not ideal. But having the Mac mini under your monitor makes it pretty easy to turn on.
Small detail for Anthony to check: For some reason the same usb-c external ssd I have only gets 350mbs speeds on my Mac mini M1, but it gets 450+ speeds on my MacBook Pro 13 2017. Tried it through usb-c and regular usb 3 and same difference. Is the usb somehow different on the Mini M1?
When you run out of things to remove so you remove the processor
I'm still using a 2013 MacBook air to edit all my videos. So upgrading to an M1 air is going to blow my mind :D
@@makokimoto4132 you cant use mac, mac is bad. just buy a pc 4head
11 minutes of Linus trying to find problems with an Apple product that’s made major strides and offers insane performance for the money.
But hey, that’s what your audience laps up.
is pointing out simple facts about what they've changed since the last one "trying to find problems"?
Insane Performance for the money? First i want a comparissm with a Ryzen. 1099.- is a very big pricetag. Ryzen 4650G+Mobo+16GB+Cooler 450.-, 1TB SSD 120.- PSU 80.-, Box 80.-, so 750.- give or take.
@@onometre It definitely is when he points out every little thing or “facts” as you say but doesn’t even go into performance gain “facts” at all.
@@Ghostzy01 uh this was a tear down video. Linus mentioned multiple times throughout the video the performance testing is coming soon.
I think you can get something a little bit more powerful for 1100$
Linus: "You gave me a Mac mini and an iFixit kit! Did you really think the warranty was going to be intact when we were done?"
The iFixit kit: "I AM the warranty!"
Apple: Mac mini
Me: iPhone inside a fancy box.
I guess you could use USB to 10Gb Ethernet adapter if you really need that, although apparently it can be quite expensive (although I remember Apple's option was $100 too, so actually prices are somewhat comparable to a dongle).
But yeah, that's stupid and doesn't make much sense not to include 10GbE as an option.
It make sense because m1 is for an entry level devices. 10gb Ethernet is not for an entry level.
Definitely a bandwith issue with the M1 chip. It only supports two displays as well which Imo is terrible especially for the notebooks since they already “include” 1 display internally which eliminates dual monitors at a desk for them.
@@skirata3144 You're talking about entry-level 13" laptops and a mini desktop here, no one who bought these previously was hooking them up to 16 Pro Display XDRs. if you absolutely need to have more than one external monitor connected to the laptops or two on the desktops then wait for the higher-end 13" MacBook Pro or Mac mini to get Apple silicon.
I love the way he’s haphazardly using the screwdriver to poke at the components and motherboard. I can hear the micro resistors flying off the board!!
I’m convinced that Linus is letting the beard grow out until the end of the year, when he’ll shave it lol
It's nice to here someone say suspect instead of sus for once.
Yessssss! So annoying!!?
It’s nice to hear someone say here instead of hear for once
I thought sus stood for suspicious
@@Carebear_Pooh it does
Thats kinda sus
Why didn't you remove the wifi antenna cable, so that you could show the whole board? Or is the cable soldered?
That's a really big raspberry pi without gpio pins!
There's no purpose to SO-DIMM slots if the SOC uses unified memory for the RAM and GPU. The M1 only gets that level of performance with this type of configuration.
Wrong, Nothing stops a system having Unified memory with SO-DIMMs, the memory on the M1 is just LPDDR4X.
@Linus, Your last comment is spot on ! I dont think a lot of people understands the significance of this combined with Graviton and the latest 78C ARM architecture. Also Photoshop is now in beta for ARM native on both Mac and Windows on ARM and so is office.... let that sink in. If Apple did large cloud datacenters like AWS or Microsoft and made their own server version of the M1 the efficiency and cost savings in power usage and thus cooling would be a real threat.
Out of every tech youtuber. LTT are the only ones I'd trust to do a full review of the silicone itself (to the extent they can)
My reasoning is workflows. What is this going to mean not only for average users but also developers? And what about it departments? My worry is that this is going to be a painful split for IT people to manage
Could you please also cover bootcamp support in your full review for Macbook/Mac mini?
It's not supported.
Again, entry level Mac Mini. Also you have a SOC which includes RAM. The M1 is much more efficient with memory. M1 silicon doesn’t need as much memory as Intel silicon does.
Everything is Pro now, introducing the M1 Pro cessor.
Did Linus forget to put the fan back in? lol
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That’s my future machine it works perfectly with affinity apps and multimedia software with low consumption and quick response. I know beeing a graphics designer is a nice market, but thi is the perfect desktop for me
10:45 “it remains to be seen with what kinda performance”
Other TH-camrs that already made vids on it:
👁👄👁
you can tell he must of heard of those reviews because he wasnt shit talking the performance like he was on other videos
he was maaaad today lmao cuz he knows he's wrong
@@a-don13 yeah the other videos was like “performance of x86 apps is going to be bad” lolz
@@madhatterman yeah now he's upset they called him out lol i can't wait for the performance vid
He’s just gonna dodge it until the hype dies down and then move onto the next thing never having addressed it, OR, continue to dig deep for valid criticisms that exist completely outside the realm of performance claims, and focus entirely on those until it’s no longer a hot topic. Dude’s gotta learn to embrace positive evolution in chip development, even if it’s less exciting to him personally and means needing to look at things in a different way. Regular consumers want to move away from the shackles that came along with traditional computing, whereas many tech purists want to cling to them. It’s just not about judging things on paper anymore, and that’s for good reason. Apple understands this. Linus apparently doesn’t.
That actual environmentally friendly move with all paper
Except the plastic wrapping, the plastic tape on the I/O, etc. Apple cares about money and its image, not the environment.
Lol. Well the massive ewaste from dongles and other apple garbage because you can't upgrade to keep using for the long run
@@sunny9895 saving environment is part of its image
In the US that wouldnt void the warranty, all those stickers allow is the manufacturer to know if you opened the device to determine if you damaged the device or if it was a defect. Now if you damaged it they can deny the repair of course.
With the extraordinary performance, its not going to be abandoned any time soon...
@baby bean Plus they were new products, not continuations of already well established product lines that people have come to expect Apple's great longevity. This is just Linus doubling down on his shitty hot take after the main event. Not sure when they filmed this video but every other relevant channel has already bench marked and already tested x86 apps like Photoshop and Linus is here publishing a video like "lol will Photoshop even work hr hr hr"
@baby bean macOS hasn't needed more CPU performance for years because Intel has failed to provide more CPU performance for that long, with the new M-series chips, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple starts adding more and more intensive features... if they have any in the pipeline that is. Whether or not the M1 will still be able to keep up with those features in 7 years, I don't know, but for the time being, the M1 is outperforming everything in the price/size range and that's amazing.
@@randomgaming8616 I’m talking *relatively* intensive features. There was a time when curves were considered computationally expensive so it’s possible that something we consider high-end now will become standard due to a new implementation.
Obviously I don’t know if this will actually happen so we’ll just have to wait and see.
The next gen of Apple Silicon is gonna be a MASSIVE performance and feature bump so I do see where he's coming from. I still think you're right though, if only because they're still supporting Intel Macs for some years
Exactly - this whole thing with Linus trying to stir up some drama left a bad taste in my mouth. I’m disappointed.
Idea for the final review: how about you redo the official presentation slides with nicely annotated graphs
"a whole heck of a not a lot in here" @ 4:10 ... I gotta start using this line
Not sure what the point of a separate video for this was when it could have easily just been a segment in a slightly longer one that includes the benchmarks.
you want content out asap. I'm subscribed to more than 10 tech channels. i dont click them all on the same topic.
Steve would've not been very happy with all that space inside 😂
Apple: we don’t like 3rd party and DIY repairs.
Also Apple: gets tools from the number one diy parts and repair store.
"I took apart ..." My first thought, did he break it?