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You should do an Apple Gaming video. CrossPlay vs Parallels. Native support vs Rosetta Apps to get rid of Apple Mouse Acceleration (Linear Mouse) Apple Arcade vs Steam
I'd upgrade the os to Linux like I have on my m1 Mac mini I got referbished. The memory required for Linux is way lower than macos, leading to a much easier experience for day to day usage. Plus eventually I can use it as a low energy homelab and home server;
I like how the video took an unexpected turn when she revealed that its gaming ability was her primary concern, but they were able to still create a narrative around that. It seems like that wasn’t their original plan, but they made it work!
@@nyambeThat’s so unfair. They give praise where it’s deserved, and flak where it’s deserved. It’s fair to say Apple is a little creatively bankrupt, the MacBook Pro line and what they’ve done with their own silicon is impressive. Really they just lack on the software side. Nothing in this video was negative though. Is it unfair to say a 600 dollar Mac mini doesn’t have the best performance, but still is a GREAT value???
@Jeffry Chen It's deceiving. They know it. It's not the right tool at all and yet. It would be like judging a gaming pc on its airdrop capabilities. it's silly. Oh well, you guys seem to eat it up. That is life
Having been a Mac hater my entire life, my first Mac was a M1 Mac Mini because I was shocked at how cheap it was, and when I used it I was blown away by how absurdly good it was to the point I made the full switch to Mac as my daily driver. I wish I could have a Mac be my only computer, but the lack of games means I have to keep my Windows gaming PC. After Alexis' account I think it's clear the gaming problem of macOS is the one thing preventing mass adoption, and it would probably be a good topic for a future video with Mac Address' take on the gaming on Mac situation even though LTT already did one. Also, give Alexis a Steam Deck.
Honestly true, I would be tempted to switch over to Apple completely if I know I could play Apex and everythingal other Steam game without a worry. That being said, I have come to prefer Windows with a more 'can do anything' experience even if it isn't a ultra unified, polished, smooth experience like it would be with Mac.
I get what you're saying. Bur a company like apple doesn't deserve my money (in my opinion ofc) with the way they greenwash their shit. Look how good we're doing. But they started the trend of removing Headphone Jack and power adapter. Not because it's more green, no because it means more $$$ in their bank account. As someone who sells their old phones 8 never have a spare brick laying around. Because without the brick it nerfs your resale value. Without the box it's even worse. And their repairability is the major thing i fall over. Self service is a joke, married parts. And no way for your local phone store to fix your damn phone. Nahh mate this is what makes me hate apple. And on a sidenote Samsung(anti root security, and anti non official rom bull) and OnePlus (serialized/married batteries to the Mobo). Companies limit the things you can do with your phone for a longer lifetime. Pretty sure that keeping the phones in use for a longer time reduces ewaste. And they are actively taking that opportunity away from us all. Because we all know the last thing to go bad in your phone is the battery /s
Gaming is a factor limiting mass adoption, but it's not the main one. I don't think it's a major consideration for most users. The main factor is still the price. It looks like the cheapest (new) MacBook on Apple's website is still $999 USD. While my impression is that a huge percentage of computer sales these days are Windows laptops or Chromebooks that cost half or a quarter that. It's probably worth spending more to get a better computer if you can (regardless of what it is), and may pay off in terms of longevity. But that isn't necessarily what the average consumer is doing.
Steam Deck? She specifically said she likes the traditional keyboard and mouse controls for her PC games... Seems a kinda silly option to be plunked back on the desk with that tiny screen. But who knows... Maybe she'd change her mind at that price ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
She didn’t wear different T-Shirts, so the „pseudo“ in „pseudo interview“ is more than correct 😂😂😂 Or did she hadn’t a couple of days with the new Mac mini, bit just one or two hours?
Depends what you want. Part of me wishes I had jumped up to 16 g ram on my base model M1 Air, but if my wife would just close some tabs every so often, it would be fine. Otherwise, I’m super happy with it. Does everything I need and more. My wife uses it for work mainly.
2014 and 2015 Air user here, both gotten used. I may get an M2 Air soon, despite using it as a desktop, if I need to take it to work, the option is there. I’d buy a Mini eventually, but now isn’t the time.
As always, these are excellent videos. I love how these videos are stylistically distinct and I wouldn't know Mac Address is part of LTT unless you told me.
That's very true. Initially, when I learned that they were creating a new channel exclusively about Macs, my first thought was that I was not interested and would never watch it. However, the unique approach, engaging presentation, and high production values have made me love this channel. I am eagerly anticipating the next episode. When Jonathan was hired for this channel, I did not expect much more than another presenter for yet another Mac channel. However, I was incredibly wrong. I cannot imagine this channel surviving without him.
The reason you aren’t able to ‘notice’ the ‘slower’ SSD is because only the sequential read and writes have decreased. The random read/writes are actually slightly better than M1 which is what running an OS relies on. Linus himself said pretty much the same thing in his M2 Air review.
Nope. When the os needs to use a page file or swap, sequential reads are what matter. And you'll be seeing that a LOT on this mac because the memory pressure will constantly stay pretty high.
@@theJesai A lot? I used an M1 Macbook air for a few months with 8gb ram and I can't say I've ever seen more than 200mb swapfile if that. Most of the time I had 2 gigs free simply because all I did was browsers and text editing. Most people Don't do a lot of work on these machines. If you do, you make money using your machine so it's worth investing in a more expensive/upgraded Mac.
Most of the Mac channels are focused on Graphic Designers and Content Creators, but what about developer tools? Hopefully you folks can create videos focused on this use case,
Luckily they have a number of employees in the engineering and dev department. I'm sure at some point, they'll call on them to see what mac life is for a developer or an engineer.
Developer experience will be fine on pretty much any Mac. If your dev needs are intense, well you are going to find you need similar power that content creators need. There's nothing inherently special about developer needs these days. Code editing is trivial for modern machines and the only real complication comes from running the code. But to that, you'll have to be the judge as your written software will have its own performance needs.
@@Beakerbiteunless you want wide software compatibility or want to work with gpu compute, vulcan/cuda/opengl Mac is fine for web development, which is what primarily pays the bills for me, but it's bad for any kind of scientific computing or hpc applications Also macos has the worst of the window management of the desktops i have used Linux is significantly better for development use case by any stretch of imagination
I hope they make videos about that soon! My experience being a dev on a ubuntu linux, it's far easier to move to mac than windows, and I'm considering buying a mac mini (I don't do any hardcore render/compile, so a mini should be enough I think)
Hah! Good catch. That bit at the desk talking about prices was filmed after the interview segments. So her reaction to the price was genuine, we just didn't film chronologically and missed that continuity slip-up.
@@macaddress 😂 hilarious one tho. Also your reaction to her asking about the price was hilarious that’s the same face I give my family if they upgrade their Apple system 😂
I really like this interview style that sets Mac address far apart from LTT. From what I remember of how Linus introduced you to viewers back when you started, it seems like something you have experience with. And sit-down interviews with regular people are something that grounds you to reality and away from the studios that most channels confine themselves to
I really like how Jonathan does these videos. It’s a lot more like a informational narrative rather than “doing tech stuff and wacky hijinks ensue” type videos. Not there is anything wrong with either but I appreciate the thoughtfulness and work that goes into this type of video. Keep up the great work team!
As a person wholly invested in the PC ecosystem with a tower I built myself whilst I would never buy a mac of any kind myself, This is the first apple desktop device I would potentially recommend to a friend who had a suitable use case. For the price its actually a great computer.
I totally agree. It annoys me to see "gaming computers" still with 16gb of RAM. 16gb should be baseline for typical computers and 32gb of gaming machines.
@@Heartlesslink100 you can game perfectly fine on 8gb ona regular computer and 1tb would be a waste, you can pick 1tb and 16gb tho, so whats the problem? ah i know, you want the 1tb and 16gb for the price of the 8gb 250gb machine, yea, not gonna happen
1TB base is absurd and a waste of money for a manufacturer. Most people, and I mean an overwhelming majority, do everything in their browser. This is not a gaming computer. There is zero reason for the base level Mac mini to have 16GB of RAM. I also don't think 256GB is terrible for a base, but the extra $200 to go up to 512GB is too much. $100 should be more acceptable. And the M2 Pro model comes with 16GB and 512GB base, which are decent specs for a majority of people, just the price is a little high.
I would love if he tried an Android/Windows based ecosystem for a month, like the Arc or Linux challenge on the main channel. Like maybe a Windows computer linked to Pixel 7 Pro, Pixel Buds, Pixel Watch, or the Samsung alternatives. I'd love to see what he likes and doesn't.
While I don’t know if it would fit the channel I do think a discussion of how MacOS is designed to help you work and a comparison to windows and vanilla gnome could be interesting
Unrelated but funnily enough I technically use my Windows PC as an non-touch based Android device, because I run an Android emulator on it like 50% of the time. (if anyone is wondering why, I have issues with focusing and concentration, possibly undiagnosed ADHD, and find that Android's UI focuses me more than a desktop browser, which is what I use about 50% of the time on my PC. The other 50% is spent gaming which I would rather not do in Android lol)
@@U1TR4F0RCE There are some people whose old iMacs (the one with the black plastic back) were to replaced (one had its hard disk drive fail and the SSD replacement survived just some years). Mainly because Apple stopped the OS and software updates. At that time, buying a new iMac was no option, so we put together some simple Windows PCs and some spare displays from office sales. We installed Zorin OS because at that time it was the Linux distro which was closest to OS X / macOS. All former Mac users were able to use these „fake“ Macs although they missed their old iMacs a lot. The new Mac mini with the M2 SoC will be the next computer they buy, although Zorin OS version 16 is really really good. And for all the other Linux distros, there are some good Themes which look and feel a lot like macOS Ventura or Monterey or Big Sur (there are themes for each recent macOS).
MacOS Catalina (and beyond) have destroyed the Mac gaming library. More than half the titles in my Steam library would stop working. I picked up an off lease 2018 Mini with the i7, 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD and 10GbE off eBay a little over a year ago for about $900 CAD. Paired it with a Blackmagic Radeon 580 eGPU from Craigslist for the bargain basement price of about $200 - after a very confusing trip in a winter storm to "The (not so) Amazing Brentwood". Still works with Mojave, though the eGPU is a bit finicky and hates going to sleep. I find myself using my old trashcan Mac Pro more by virtue of the fact that it always just seems to work.
I like these types of videos where you get external 'random joe schmoe' interviews. it's nice to see new faces on camera, especially ones who may not necessarily be associated with LMG/MA as a company.
The unfortunate thing about the state of gaming on Mac is that all of the M1 machines are actually quite capable of light gaming. The M1 GPU is roughly equivalent to a laptop 1650 - which obviously isn't amazing, but also capable of running pretty much every game at low/medium settings at a playable framerate. If Apple actually put some effort into getting games onto their platform things would be much better. Look at how many games Stadia was able to offer despite having zero marketshare and being canceled pretty quickly.
@@SchmakerSchmoo Actually I think the m1 pro is more in-line with the 1650 if geekbench scores are to be believed, but that doesn’t detract from the fact that all apple silicon macs have a faster gpu than an xbox one/ps4. It is absolutely possible to run games, it’s just mainly the lack of bootcamp holding it back I guess. I wouldn’t expect apple to hammer in on gaming since it’s not their primary focus for macs.
The value of Macs really is an entire different game now. I've been using an M1 13" MBP for professional video editing for 2 years now and my only complaint is that I wish I'd gotten more storage (though I use external SSDs for my company's pipeline most of the time anyway.) Performance on this machine I paid $1300 for, though, is still doing better (gaming aside, of course) than the PC I just built for $300 more, and all while having 12+ real hours of battery life and being entirely silent.
The new mac mini is a great deal, but it's such a shame the storage and ram upgrades are so expensive. My friend just added a 1tb ssd to his laptop for 50 dollars and it's made a massive difference for him. Apple might use higher quality components than bargain basement, but $400?? Cmon. Thats dumb.
You can add that same 1tb ssd to the Mac Mini, just buy an external drive enclosure for about £20. I have a 2014 Mac Mini with a mechanical drive but I run the OS from an external ssd and use the mechanical drive for TimeMachine backups.
@@Skullet you're gonna need to spend £100+ for a TB4/USB4 enclosure that will realise the potential speeds of the drive. Though, the £20 enclosures are fine if you're not too concerned about speed.
This is just a testament to how effective it is to get people bought into your ecosystem young. She does a lot of stuff that would be much easier on a PC, but when getting a computer from her family she simply wasn't aware at the time. Different strokes for different folks
I really enjoy this channel. As a windows/android user who’s only started using any apple products in the past two years or so, I find a lot of my feelings reflected in the videos uploaded here. I also like that even though it would be easy to make this just a review channel, the content always seeks to answer a particular question or come at the subject manner from an interesting angle. As a viewer, I couldn’t be happier with the work that Jonathan and the rest of the Mac Address team have done
At the time we bought our M1 mini, we only upgrade the ram to 16GB. Half the reason we bought it was my wife needed a computer, she was perviously a mac user, and this was the peak of the pc parts price gouging epidemic of a couple years ago; so it just made sense at the time. Would buy one again in a heartbeat for her use case if we needed to. I got a M1 Pro Macbook Pro myself since i tend to be more mobile oriented for general computing and i can conveniently share it with my wife. We both also use iPhones etc. I still have a PC at home for games as well so it's not like have I have to choose one machine to do everything.
mac address is an absolutely wonderful TH-cam channel. I want you and your whole team to know that the quality and detail in every aspect of making a video work does not go unnoticed! these remind me of how great the early casey neistat videos used to made me feel. beautiful stuff
I purchased a base model M1 Mac Mini back when it was released as replacement for my Mid 2015 15" Macbook Pro, and I would agree with what was said in the video. For everyday web-browsing, video calls, etc. it worked flawlessly and was a huge upgrade from my Macbook Pro. But recently I've been doing more creative work, specifically photo-editing with Lightroom, graphic design with Canva and some video editing with Final Cut Pro. This workflow really started to slow the M1 Mac Mini down and show the limitations of the 8 gb of RAM. I decided to start using my Macbook Pro for the same workflow, and though importing, exporting and rendering all takes a little bit longer, it has felt like the computer is waaaayyy faster because of the 16 gb of RAM and 2 gb of dedicated VRAM. Most of the videos I watched about the M-series processors when they were released said that the 8 gb of RAM would feel like 16 gb of RAM, and that was just flat out wrong! But, luckily the M2 Pro is now in the Mac Mini, and once I'm able to sell my M1, I'll be upgrading and will probably get 32 gb of RAM just to future proof myself!
The base M1 or M2 with 16GB of RAM would run circles around the 2015 MBP. Definitely get the M2 Pro if that is what you want, but it sounds like you are mostly memory limited, which doesn't require upgrading all the way to the M2 Pro to solve. The base M2 with 16GB of RAM is very close in performance to the M1 Pro both in CPU and GPU tasks.
I am starting to think all those techtubers who said "those 8 gb feel like 16gb" were told by Apple to say this specific line.... I also have the M1 Mac Mini base model, and I dont just feel but I can see (with specific monitoring software) how the 8gb get filled up very fast. And I dont even do any heavy tasks. Just browsing, emails, youtube and such.
I think that it's because she is a student and just don't have money for it, and maybe she don't have a permanent place to live. If you move a lot this makes PC setup an issue
@@vadym8713 Why not get a lower end gaming laptop? She could definitely get away with like a 1650 or a 3050 in one of those < $500 laptops. Tons of students have them these days
Does MacAdress not know the iPad air 5 exists? It also costs $600, $550 if you're a student. They don't have a video on it, having reviewed the regular iPad that only works with the gen1 pencil. Yet it's been out for over a year.
I actually just got a Mini Pro as a compliment to my gaming pc. Great machine to do everything else while using a tiny amount of power. The amount of heat that my desktop puts off, especially during the summer is pretty bad. As far as specs, 16GB is easy to use as I have found but that’s about as far as I would need to push it.
I got an M1 Mac mini about a year ago, it’s completely stock except for 10gb Ethernet. I got an OWC miniStack with a 2TB Pcie Gen4 nvme and an 8tb 3.5” hard drive all connected via thunderbolt 4. My plan was when it was getting too old, I’d have it be a server. But so far it’s been great for video encoding/editing, photography (migrated my photos library to the external nvme) and a place to back up my iOS devices (there’s tutorials on how to get that automatically stored on an external drive). I haven’t been able to get it break a sweat yet, although encoding using handbrake has been slower than I thought, the fans have never been audible. I have a KVM switch that allows me to switch to an Xbox when I want to game, handy now that AOE2 is on Xbox!
My only issue is exactly what Jonathan was saying. Once I upgrade to the ram and storage I need, I might as well stick with my PC. I also like playing the occasional game, so there's that
I’m wondering if she said anything about having to move from a laptop to a desktop. I imagine if she did it was cut for relevancy, but I’d think that would be as or more impactful than anything else for “an average user”. Also, I wonder how well Parallels runs Windows on an M2.
There are many people who have been on laptops for their entire adult life and simply do not enjoy using desktops anymore. Imagine going from an Apple keyboard, trackpad, and Retina screen to a bargain 1080p monitor and $40 Logitech keyboard and mouse. She seemed utterly unimpressed by everything. She might have been impressed by a MacBook M2 Air that gets 20 hour battery life, zero fan noise, beautiful design, and an improved keyboard, but we'll never know.
I use Crossover to play Rogue Tower (among a couple other things) and it works flawlesly. I maybe loose a little bit of rought power due to emulation but I was impressed.
@@mbvglider Apple keyboard is not that great, I could live without trackpad but yes, 1080p instead of retina is a hard choice, I have this type of monitor and when I switch from Retina to external screen I think I'm starting to loose my vision, everything is so blurry. BUT if you just use crappy monitor you could get use to that and with Mac mini you don't have that, so no issues
I feel like it would be interesting to see Jonathans' take on using something with the Gnome desktop. I know I've always liked the macos ui, and gnome appeals to many of the same things for me. I wonder if being more used to a unix based os would give him a unique perspective compared to someone who is more of a windows native.
The issue with modern Linux has never been the UI, it is the software support. macOS lacks games but most other applications are readily available (Office, Adobe suite, CAD applications, etc.). Many of those same software suites simply are not available natively on linux, which is massive barrier to an "average" user enjoying their experience there.
If you're going for the ULTIMATE cheapest option, yeah a mac mini will still blow many similar devices out of the water. BUT if you REALLY can afford it, I suggest getting the lowest model Macbook Air as you can use it in clamshell mode (having the lid closed and connected to power and a monitor) and you can use it like a desktop computer with the same M2 performance. The great thing about this is that you can also just use it as a laptop and take it around with you. It's powerful enough to do both. I have a macbook pro 16" and do the same. It's very nice peace of mind for me to know that I can use my macbook pro as either a desktop or just take it with me as a laptop.
Definitely get one. The M1 Mac Mini was my first Mac and it made macOS my new favorite operating system. I traded it in for a 14 inch Macbook Pro that has pretty much become my computer swiss army knife now
I’m a mixing engineer and sound designer and, while waiting for my M1 Max MBP to show up, I tried a 16gb M1 Mac Mini which worked great for my then current projects but was CONSTANTLY swapping memory. Haven’t had any of that happen on my 32gb M1 Max.
I think the biggest thing that holds me from getting one Mac is the lack of some games I like because MacOS is not compatible and that's something I don't know if it can be solved
If I was to make a suggestion: I would recommend you get a Steam Deck with your Mac, or get a Macbook Air to use as a companion device to your PC. A 256gb Steam Deck + Mac Mini/M1 Macbook Air is less than the majority of prebuilt gaming PCs, and in terms of the Macbook + Steam Deck combo is the ultimate in portability.
I’m rocking the M2 Air with 8GB of RAM, but I upgraded to the 10-core chip and the 512 GB SSD. I have yet to find it’s limits with what I do. I’m mostly spreadsheeting, and a little photoshop work on the side as a hobby. Best laptop I’ve ever owned. Although, I came from a 2012 MBP with the i5. I was due for an upgrade.
I recently picked up one of these (but with 512gb storage) and it's been great. I just wanted a quiet and power efficient browsing and sysadmin machine instead of running Linux on my loud and warm gaming PC.
My elderly neighbours PC broke a year or two ago. I had been using a MBP for work as a SWE and didnt want a neighbour pestering me constantly. Told him to get the budget Mac mini as he already had a monitor, keyboard and mouse and he's has a pretty painless experience. I would have bought my own, but i ended up getting an M1 MBP just so im not chained to a desk.
I bought myself a base Macbook Air m2. At first i was kinda worried about only 8gb of ram, but it really doesnt feel as limiting as it does on windows machines. Especially for the Macbook air, applications that i used were more limited by the heat generation and limited gpu power or even the only 256 gb of storage rather than ram. But still kinda sucks with apples pricing. 16gb ram with 512 gb storage would be an almost perfect machine for me, but apples pricing really makes it not worth for me
@@arminoandrigo4599 It will be fine. Even now they rely heavily on swap. A couple of memory-hungry webapps eat out all of the ram and more. You can barely feel it tho, and not much will change in a few years. A bigger question will be how long can your ssd survive writing hundreds GBs per day. Then again, in most endurance tests you'll see drives survive multiple times it's TBW, and Apple hopefully uses quality components.
I had a MacBook Air M1 for work and recently bought my own 14 inch. The biggest factor in upgrading was the ram. 8 gigs just isn’t enough anymore for anyone but the lightest (or most patient) users
I use my mini m1 8gb for garageband, websurfing, microsoft office, managing photos or files whatever and used it for gamecube emulation. As a machine for personal use, it works perfectly fine. But I could imagine it slowing down when doing heavy work.
@@JesseLegend149 Good point, it is definitely still a great machine and I definitely could have used it for years to come if I was willing to put up with a bit of slowdown.
If one has a specific use for this machine that does not require more RAM or storage for their particular apps or workflow, it's a total deal. I have mine set up as a server (including Plex, using external disks for media storage) - and it works brilliantly. As Apple's least expensive machine, it seems way overpowered for just web browsing, e-mail and office style apps.
It's impressive the value proposition they offer, but the restrictions placed upon MacOS and its' inability to do what I want (e.g. Use external graphics cards for rendering out 3D scenes in path tracers, generally play recreational games, poor by contrast management of multiple monitors), holds it back substantially. It isn't intuitive to me, and I find a lot of the design decisions hurt my ability to just... Work. Whilst Windows isn't great in a lot of aspects, it is a lot more flexible for me, and the freedom to install it on any hardware I want is good enough, whilst Linux is a little too... Needy with my time to make things work. I like my devices to actually feel like they're mine. If I want to use them unconventionally, I should be able to do that. Apple feels like that one car company that sends cease and desist letters if you paint the car a different colour. It's also for that reason that I'll be moving away from the Ipad Pro next time I upgrade, whilst the pencil is nice, there are plenty of android options, and whilst they may not be quite as aesthetically pleasing, I know the pens work just as well, whilst also having a lot more options for my use-cases, including easily using them like a Cintiq if I so please. Makes it very appealing to bring with me if I travel with my laptop.
I'm a graphic design student and I did buy the cheap m2 mac mini. I'm using it for 10 days and I can say it was a good decision. First of all, I have money left to buy pretty good peripherals. I bought a pretty good qhd 27-inch Dell monitor. I also bought a good mechanical keyboard and a good mouse. Even when I collect all of them in the country I live in, it comes to two-thirds of the price of an m2 macbook air. Yes, it's weird not being able to carry it but using a big monitor is amazingly good. Using a screen larger than 4 times the Air's screen changed my whole workflow. The second great thing is speed. Apps and windows open so fast that it feels so natural. I can easily do all my graphic design work. Yes, 16 gb ram would be better, but even if I'm working on a very large file, I haven't seen any problems other than half-second stutters from time to time. It certainly does not prevent me from doing my work. As someone who plays a lot of games, I can say that if the game is on macos, you can play it quite well. I use cloud gaming for most games, but you can definitely play games like Civilization or Tomb Raider at 1440p full settings. Of course, it is not without problems, but I found the solution for all of them. First of all, the number of ports is not enough. I'm using a USB keyboard and mouse and the USB a ports are already full. But I knew this so I chose a monitor with a USB hub. Another problem is the lack of a webcam and microphone. As a cheap solution, I can use my phone as a webcam. Unfortunately, I can only use the microphone with a headset connected. Another problem is the 256 GB SSD. While it's enough for programs and a few games, it's not enough for my photos, backups, and work files. I am using a cheap 1 TB external hard drive as a solution. This little computer can do just about anything I want. Two more of my friends from school bought it and they loved it too. I definitely recommend this computer. Especially at this price.
I’m rocking the base M2 Mac mini! I traded in my base M1 Mac mini day 1 for it. Only had to pay $230 for it with instant trade-in credit. I also use photoshop and Final Cut. The fact that it has ProRes media engine is a big game changer. I don’t have any RAM or CPU/GPU issues. I also don’t care about storage size, since I keep all my files in iCloud Drive
“How do you upgrade memory” That right there kill the argument of the video 😂😂😂😂 To be fair, 8GB is enough for a person that just wants a macOS computer. Even for work, you can use it, just expect anything to be slower than a $2K or even $4K computer. For the price , the base Mac Mini is way better than a similar price i5 computer (that’s probably the cost of an $800 i5 computer)
My dad got one of the base models so shortly after it was announced that he didn’t know of it yet And it’s a huge upgrade from our piece-of-sh*t imac we had before. APPLE WHY DID YOU SELL IMACS WITH MECHANICAL HARD DRIVES FOR SO LONG
macOS is great for multi monitor, even excellent! M1/m2 isn’t. Only support for one external display. Pro supports two… and my old intel MacBook maybe four.
@@xvaara my M2 Mac Mini supports 2 Displays but the way MacOS handels them is just unintuative, why do i need to klick on the window again to select it? why isnt my mous being on there enough? and even without that i have a lot of problems with the way mac os does anything because i need to clock way more to do the simpelest tasks.
"How can we upgrade it?" dude... she's NOT a Mac user. That kind of blasphemy doesn't fly in our cult.. AHEM CULTURE, I mean culture. She seems like one of those kids that were left in the basement because her parents didn't want to expose her to the world (PCs, in this case). Once she'll play on a PC it would probably be like seeing the outdoors for the first time.
I have a machine that sits in the corner, receives video files (in an assortment of types) from field engineers, converts them to mp4 files, tags them and moves them to another machine all using shortcut automations. It's a base model M1 Mac Mini and I log into it (via ARD) every once in a while to check for OS updates. It never skips a beat and just does what it does without any fuss.
Terrific video and explanations of the tradeoffs with new Macs. For me, the combination of M1/M2's memory combo drawbacks, lack of upgradability, and 64-bit-only apps with 10.15 Catalina and above really limit my ability to use modern Macs. I have a 2018 Mini with 10.14 Mojave and that works great for any non-gaming tasks like uni work and . But, since a huge chunk of my PC use is in games, I have a dedicated Win11 rig which is far better for that. The 2011 iMac was the peak of Apple computers for me, an amazing 1440p display for the time (still holds up great today), every spec being upgradable (or multiplied in the case of storage drives) and very repairable, great BootCamp support, and terrific for gaming. I used it as my sole computer for games until 2019 when the GPU went kaput after 7 years of heavy use. A new GPU solved it, and it still works like new. I'm still amazed that the laptop-spec Radeon 6970M 1GB model was able to run so many things so well for so long in that machine.
I found myself in the same boat - love the Mini, but can't really justify it because I game on PC. I really love the Mini. My grandparents have one and it's had absolutely ZERO issues. They're pretty decently tech savvy for their age, but I'd put them at average or below-average to the general public. They can do whatever they need. Much better improvement from their previous windows machine. When I was a student, I really wanted a Mini. But I needed a laptop, so I went the Windows route instead for affordability. I still want a mini... but I can't justify it. For current-day me, my ideal setup is a Windows desktop for gaming, and an Apple laptop for daily use. Very hard to justify a Mini, but even harder to justify spending twice the price on a laptop that doesn't perform any better. But I still think the Mini is Apple's best product, bar-none. If anybody wants to try Apple, Mini is the way to go. Godspeed the mighty Mini.
Take a look at how Windows runs in Parallels and see if there is a major performance hit for games. Other then FPS games you would think everything would run fine. Maybe without the comfort features of PC hardware, but should be sufficient.
I'm typing this on an M1 Mac Mini that I use for work. It's hooked to my LG CX TV and I work from my couch. It's handled everything I've thrown at it, but my work needs are pretty basic. I am contemplating the M2 Pro Mac Mini to replace it, as that has HDMI 2.1 and I could use 4k120hz on my TV. Other than being limited to 1080p120hz, I have no complaints with this unit.
For the same reason they also have fairly affordable iPhones it is to get you into their ecosystem. I do think it is very competitive at the price but in the same way that consoles are competitive. They take a loss/less profit on the hardware because they know you will be buying more of their products in the future. In the longer term this can easily result in spending multiple top tier PC's worth on hardware and peripherals that aren't anywhere close to the price to performance than with the subsidized first unit you bought, if anything you will spend a lot more money for less performance in most workloads.
It makes me sad that the “less than 3% of Steam users” being on Mac is the deterrent being used to justify not developing for them. Mac users make up fewer Steam users because they’re underserved. The percentage would be much higher if studios actually put in the effort for them.
I appreciate how the writing has changed since the start of the channel, I was afraid we would just get an info dump channel but the framing each video as a story has made them super enjoyable to watch.
I am a master's student, and I need to do the assignment (a lot of writing), Zoom meetings, and do some data science things related to machine learning. Still, it blows my mind when I do training compared to my friend's beefy desktop. With the same script and data set, I could do it in seconds while he in minutes. My MacBook pro is not the new one. It is only MBP 14 m1 pro, and I do not regret buying it. Especially with an external monitor (a must if you like to do something on a desktop) or NVME with a thunderbolt case if you like video editing and don't have enough internal SSD.
i have a macbook pro m1 16 inch that I use for most work tasks since it's 16gigs of ram. I have a macbook air m2 that's a base model that I use for when I travel for work and most other things. My macbook pro almost always stays docked at my desk in my home office, but is nice that if I can't work in my office I can take it and still have the same power from somewhere else with a fairly large screen. The air base model has worked great for me for spreadsheets, word docs, web browser, email, etc. I haven't seen any significant performance issues for what I use it for and it's much more portable than my heavier bigger macbook pro. OneDrive auto unloads files from my local machine I haven't used in awhile, which keeps my storage managed even at the smaller 256 hard drive. The Air also handles using Playstation remote play pretty well when paired with a backbone controller as long as my internet connection is good where I'm trying to connect home from to play while I'm traveling.
I got the M1 base model. For every day tasks, i.e. browsing, emails, its great. I even use it for learning Python. The only thing one has to watch out for with the base model is to stay away from swap memory. So close your tabs/windows/apps once you dont need them anymore. And this device should last for a long time :)
Alexis using the macbook for playing PTCGO is such a vibe, she gets it lol I love this approach to the apple ecosystem cause I do feel it could help get a better sense of who the audience of these devices are for. I'm in the same boat, I want to play Resident Evil Village but I'm the same way.
My 10 year old Macbook Pro had 16 GB of ram and 512 GB of storage. I am shocked how that's not even the baseline standard of brand new desktop machines. The 8 GB/256 GB base hasn't moved in so long.
I use a Mac Mini M1 for work as a headless CI&CD agent. It builds, tests, signs and submits the apps we develop to both apple's and android's stores. It's cheap and reliable.
Just got this computer about a month ago. Pushed it to its outer limits with iTunes, Safari (watching LTT), War Thunder open in a small window ... it was fine, you could fry an egg on the logo, but fine. I removed two 4in fans from an old laptop cooling stand thingy and rested them on top.
Sadly, The way Macs are being marketed and made, it's not suppose to be for gaming. Only for creating/production stuff. So no matter what, you either have to get a gaming console or PC to balance it but at that point, may as well just get a beefed up PC that can do both.
The even crazier thing is that this is currently ALREADY $50 off on Amazon. $549 for this performance is just an absolute no brainer. I have a PC gaming setup at my desk and bought one at that price simply to have a second machine there to use Mac only apps I like to use on my MacBook Pro.
I bought the M1 Mac Mini (16GB, 512GB) just when it launched 2020 because a I needed a new computer so badly - I was not based and had no expectations to it. My main tasks were/are basic Office stuff like: Word, Excel, E-mail, browsing the web (often with multiple tabs open) and light photo/video editing and using Apple Music. After a while (in early 2021) I upgraded to a Benq 4K monitor and Bose computer speakers. All I can say, after 2,5 years I‘m still in love with this machine. It never let me down, still is blazing fast, power consumption is ridiculously low (yeah, that‘s also what counts nowadays). The M2 might be just an evolutionary update, but I think it makes everything a bit better. All I can say: Don‘t buy below 16GB RAM and 1TB of memory in 2023 and you will be happy for years when having my kind of work load and need a reliable computer.
I've had an M1 Mac Mini with 8GB of RAM for over a year now. No hiccups as long I keep plenty for room free on the internal SSD for memory swapping. But I HATE the seconds I have to wait for the Mac to spin up external hard drives, even if I want to save to the internal drive
Digital Foundry: "MetalFX upscaling is genuinely impressive" Mac Address: "I feel like I've not put my contacts in" Lol. I think I'll stick with DF when it comes to objective reviews of graphics.
"Well made and long lasting" Several generations of self destructing Mac Books, some hardware bricking updates and the blatant problem of repairing something is anything happens entered the chat
RIP that girl...So 5 years ago...She could be gaming on 8700k and 1080 for that price if not better. Or was 8th gen not quit out back then. She should not had been pressured by her parents.
Where did you guys find Alexis because her final thoughts at the end were so well thought out. I'm not sure most "average" users would have that awareness. She is absolutely right and I see so many friends/family who never listen to her sage words. You have to know what you're going to use the machine for and what you're hoping to achieve. So many people buy ridiculously overpowered and expensive machines for the standard enough tasks they want to do. And the other side of the scale is even worse, people who want to game but buy something underpowered because it's cheap. A lot of less tech-literate people are scared and intimidated when buying a machine and never ask for help in understanding their needs for whatever reason, maybe they're afraid to look stupid to people they know, and then take advice from a salesperson which may not always have their best interest at heart.
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Johnathan did you really just say the price of the setup infront of her after saying you wouldn't tell her the price and for her to not look it up?
You should do an Apple Gaming video.
CrossPlay vs Parallels.
Native support vs Rosetta
Apps to get rid of Apple Mouse Acceleration (Linear Mouse)
Apple Arcade vs Steam
I'd upgrade the os to Linux like I have on my m1 Mac mini I got referbished. The memory required for Linux is way lower than macos, leading to a much easier experience for day to day usage. Plus eventually I can use it as a low energy homelab and home server;
You said not to look up the price. But then you said the price for the whole setup with her in the room 🤔
No. Unless you’re just collecting cake recipes.
I like how the video took an unexpected turn when she revealed that its gaming ability was her primary concern, but they were able to still create a narrative around that. It seems like that wasn’t their original plan, but they made it work!
It was their original plan. Somehow this mac channel loves to hate on mac
@@nyambeThat’s so unfair. They give praise where it’s deserved, and flak where it’s deserved. It’s fair to say Apple is a little creatively bankrupt, the MacBook Pro line and what they’ve done with their own silicon is impressive. Really they just lack on the software side.
Nothing in this video was negative though. Is it unfair to say a 600 dollar Mac mini doesn’t have the best performance, but still is a GREAT value???
@Jeffry Chen It's deceiving. They know it. It's not the right tool at all and yet. It would be like judging a gaming pc on its airdrop capabilities. it's silly. Oh well, you guys seem to eat it up. That is life
@@brandondapro It's misleading. I just hope their PC reviews are not as biased.
@@nyambe What is misleading?
Having been a Mac hater my entire life, my first Mac was a M1 Mac Mini because I was shocked at how cheap it was, and when I used it I was blown away by how absurdly good it was to the point I made the full switch to Mac as my daily driver. I wish I could have a Mac be my only computer, but the lack of games means I have to keep my Windows gaming PC. After Alexis' account I think it's clear the gaming problem of macOS is the one thing preventing mass adoption, and it would probably be a good topic for a future video with Mac Address' take on the gaming on Mac situation even though LTT already did one.
Also, give Alexis a Steam Deck.
Honestly true, I would be tempted to switch over to Apple completely if I know I could play Apex and everythingal other Steam game without a worry. That being said, I have come to prefer Windows with a more 'can do anything' experience even if it isn't a ultra unified, polished, smooth experience like it would be with Mac.
i had the same experience! today i daily my macbook and keep my old windows computer on the ready for video games
I get what you're saying. Bur a company like apple doesn't deserve my money (in my opinion ofc) with the way they greenwash their shit. Look how good we're doing. But they started the trend of removing Headphone Jack and power adapter. Not because it's more green, no because it means more $$$ in their bank account.
As someone who sells their old phones 8 never have a spare brick laying around. Because without the brick it nerfs your resale value. Without the box it's even worse.
And their repairability is the major thing i fall over.
Self service is a joke, married parts. And no way for your local phone store to fix your damn phone. Nahh mate this is what makes me hate apple.
And on a sidenote Samsung(anti root security, and anti non official rom bull) and OnePlus (serialized/married batteries to the Mobo). Companies limit the things you can do with your phone for a longer lifetime.
Pretty sure that keeping the phones in use for a longer time reduces ewaste.
And they are actively taking that opportunity away from us all.
Because we all know the last thing to go bad in your phone is the battery /s
Gaming is a factor limiting mass adoption, but it's not the main one. I don't think it's a major consideration for most users. The main factor is still the price. It looks like the cheapest (new) MacBook on Apple's website is still $999 USD. While my impression is that a huge percentage of computer sales these days are Windows laptops or Chromebooks that cost half or a quarter that.
It's probably worth spending more to get a better computer if you can (regardless of what it is), and may pay off in terms of longevity. But that isn't necessarily what the average consumer is doing.
Steam Deck? She specifically said she likes the traditional keyboard and mouse controls for her PC games... Seems a kinda silly option to be plunked back on the desk with that tiny screen. But who knows... Maybe she'd change her mind at that price ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Jonathan you absolutely excel in the pseudo interview style format. More of this please! Excellent work as always
She didn’t wear different T-Shirts, so the „pseudo“ in „pseudo interview“ is more than correct 😂😂😂
Or did she hadn’t a couple of days with the new Mac mini, bit just one or two hours?
@@paulhorn24 Probably did the house shoot in one go, dropped the Mac off a couple days in advance.
Speaking as someone with a Mid-2014 MacBook Pro, I’m pretty sure even the cheapest of the newest line of Mac Minis would be a huge upgrade for me.
Depends what you want. Part of me wishes I had jumped up to 16 g ram on my base model M1 Air, but if my wife would just close some tabs every so often, it would be fine. Otherwise, I’m super happy with it. Does everything I need and more. My wife uses it for work mainly.
I feel your pain. I edited on a 2015 base 13” Macbook Pro up until December last year.
2014 and 2015 Air user here, both gotten used. I may get an M2 Air soon, despite using it as a desktop, if I need to take it to work, the option is there.
I’d buy a Mini eventually, but now isn’t the time.
MB Pro from 2015 right here. This is legitimately an awful experience day by day now. I can hardly use it for college anymore.
@@stephensonmatthew7 the best part about the air is the battery. 10+ hours of light use is easy to hit
As always, these are excellent videos. I love how these videos are stylistically distinct and I wouldn't know Mac Address is part of LTT unless you told me.
That's very true. Initially, when I learned that they were creating a new channel exclusively about Macs, my first thought was that I was not interested and would never watch it. However, the unique approach, engaging presentation, and high production values have made me love this channel. I am eagerly anticipating the next episode.
When Jonathan was hired for this channel, I did not expect much more than another presenter for yet another Mac channel. However, I was incredibly wrong. I cannot imagine this channel surviving without him.
Yup. Jonathan felt like the wrong fit but it's insane how great he is once he found his groove. I hate apple but still watch.
The Mac Address videos feel like a TV news kind of a video, which is refreshing, in limited quantities.
@@MeGaDwarf2008Emphasis on limited quantities
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The reason you aren’t able to ‘notice’ the ‘slower’ SSD is because only the sequential read and writes have decreased. The random read/writes are actually slightly better than M1 which is what running an OS relies on.
Linus himself said pretty much the same thing in his M2 Air review.
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@C L seethe and cope
Nope. When the os needs to use a page file or swap, sequential reads are what matter.
And you'll be seeing that a LOT on this mac because the memory pressure will constantly stay pretty high.
@@theJesai A lot? I used an M1 Macbook air for a few months with 8gb ram and I can't say I've ever seen more than 200mb swapfile if that. Most of the time I had 2 gigs free simply because all I did was browsers and text editing. Most people Don't do a lot of work on these machines. If you do, you make money using your machine so it's worth investing in a more expensive/upgraded Mac.
256GB on a PC is till too small, I would say at least 512 even if you are not using it for games...
Most of the Mac channels are focused on Graphic Designers and Content Creators, but what about developer tools? Hopefully you folks can create videos focused on this use case,
Luckily they have a number of employees in the engineering and dev department. I'm sure at some point, they'll call on them to see what mac life is for a developer or an engineer.
Developer experience will be fine on pretty much any Mac. If your dev needs are intense, well you are going to find you need similar power that content creators need. There's nothing inherently special about developer needs these days. Code editing is trivial for modern machines and the only real complication comes from running the code. But to that, you'll have to be the judge as your written software will have its own performance needs.
@@Beakerbiteunless you want wide software compatibility or want to work with gpu compute, vulcan/cuda/opengl
Mac is fine for web development, which is what primarily pays the bills for me, but it's bad for any kind of scientific computing or hpc applications
Also macos has the worst of the window management of the desktops i have used
Linux is significantly better for development use case by any stretch of imagination
I hope they make videos about that soon!
My experience being a dev on a ubuntu linux, it's far easier to move to mac than windows, and I'm considering buying a mac mini (I don't do any hardcore render/compile, so a mini should be enough I think)
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Jonathan to girl: "Don't look up the price of the product."
Also Jonathan, to audience, while girl is on the bed behind him: "This setup costs $800."
I was also confused about this but I think it’s VO. Either way it was hilarious 😂
3:45 This part definitely isn’t VO, but I’m not sure she’s present.
EDIT: Note that it cuts from him sitting to standing.
Hah! Good catch. That bit at the desk talking about prices was filmed after the interview segments. So her reaction to the price was genuine, we just didn't film chronologically and missed that continuity slip-up.
@@macaddress 😂 hilarious one tho. Also your reaction to her asking about the price was hilarious that’s the same face I give my family if they upgrade their Apple system 😂
Also she is an actor? is she acting? can't tell.
Talking about spending $3K on a Apple computer.
“Do you think that’s powerful?”
“No but that’s Apple”
😂😂😂
I love videos like this. They’re sharing their real life experience of other average people not just the tech and specs side of the products
I really like this interview style that sets Mac address far apart from LTT. From what I remember of how Linus introduced you to viewers back when you started, it seems like something you have experience with. And sit-down interviews with regular people are something that grounds you to reality and away from the studios that most channels confine themselves to
I really like how Jonathan does these videos. It’s a lot more like a informational narrative rather than “doing tech stuff and wacky hijinks ensue” type videos. Not there is anything wrong with either but I appreciate the thoughtfulness and work that goes into this type of video.
Keep up the great work team!
As a person wholly invested in the PC ecosystem with a tower I built myself whilst I would never buy a mac of any kind myself, This is the first apple desktop device I would potentially recommend to a friend who had a suitable use case. For the price its actually a great computer.
I love your videos and how they’re always outside of a normal set
Two Mac Addresses in 4 days? How did we get so lucky?!
i really think 16gb and 1TB should be the baseline for new PC's in 2023.
I totally agree. It annoys me to see "gaming computers" still with 16gb of RAM. 16gb should be baseline for typical computers and 32gb of gaming machines.
@@Heartlesslink100 u can game perfectly fine on 16. Just dont have 100 tabs open.
@@Heartlesslink100 you can game perfectly fine on 8gb ona regular computer and 1tb would be a waste, you can pick 1tb and 16gb tho, so whats the problem?
ah i know, you want the 1tb and 16gb for the price of the 8gb 250gb machine, yea, not gonna happen
@@JohnSmith-pn2vl but you cant game fine with 8gb, some games straight up dont work with that little. 16 is the least, 32 is nice 64 is for pros
1TB base is absurd and a waste of money for a manufacturer. Most people, and I mean an overwhelming majority, do everything in their browser. This is not a gaming computer. There is zero reason for the base level Mac mini to have 16GB of RAM. I also don't think 256GB is terrible for a base, but the extra $200 to go up to 512GB is too much. $100 should be more acceptable. And the M2 Pro model comes with 16GB and 512GB base, which are decent specs for a majority of people, just the price is a little high.
I would love if he tried an Android/Windows based ecosystem for a month, like the Arc or Linux challenge on the main channel. Like maybe a Windows computer linked to Pixel 7 Pro, Pixel Buds, Pixel Watch, or the Samsung alternatives. I'd love to see what he likes and doesn't.
He already did that using a Galaxy Tab in his video about iPad competitors, as well as the iPhone SE 3 video.
While I don’t know if it would fit the channel I do think a discussion of how MacOS is designed to help you work and a comparison to windows and vanilla gnome could be interesting
Unrelated but funnily enough I technically use my Windows PC as an non-touch based Android device, because I run an Android emulator on it like 50% of the time.
(if anyone is wondering why, I have issues with focusing and concentration, possibly undiagnosed ADHD, and find that Android's UI focuses me more than a desktop browser, which is what I use about 50% of the time on my PC. The other 50% is spent gaming which I would rather not do in Android lol)
It’s called “Mac” address
Also windows has an ecosystem? Lololol
@@U1TR4F0RCE There are some people whose old iMacs (the one with the black plastic back) were to replaced (one had its hard disk drive fail and the SSD replacement survived just some years). Mainly because Apple stopped the OS and software updates. At that time, buying a new iMac was no option, so we put together some simple Windows PCs and some spare displays from office sales. We installed Zorin OS because at that time it was the Linux distro which was closest to OS X / macOS. All former Mac users were able to use these „fake“ Macs although they missed their old iMacs a lot.
The new Mac mini with the M2 SoC will be the next computer they buy, although Zorin OS version 16 is really really good. And for all the other Linux distros, there are some good Themes which look and feel a lot like macOS Ventura or Monterey or Big Sur (there are themes for each recent macOS).
MacOS Catalina (and beyond) have destroyed the Mac gaming library. More than half the titles in my Steam library would stop working.
I picked up an off lease 2018 Mini with the i7, 64GB RAM, 1TB SSD and 10GbE off eBay a little over a year ago for about $900 CAD. Paired it with a Blackmagic Radeon 580 eGPU from Craigslist for the bargain basement price of about $200 - after a very confusing trip in a winter storm to "The (not so) Amazing Brentwood". Still works with Mojave, though the eGPU is a bit finicky and hates going to sleep. I find myself using my old trashcan Mac Pro more by virtue of the fact that it always just seems to work.
I like these types of videos where you get external 'random joe schmoe' interviews. it's nice to see new faces on camera, especially ones who may not necessarily be associated with LMG/MA as a company.
Imagine that they kept Mac Mini last years price (100$ more), but that base model has 16GB/512GB, it would sell like hotcakes.
It's already selling like hotcakes
Mac is like a strong buff dude that refuse to lift a pound of potatoes, he can but he just don't want to
The new CPUs are amazing if you don't game. still rocking my M1 air and its my daily go to. Love the videos.
I have a M1 Pro and it's still amazing
Plays wow game, its all i need.
The unfortunate thing about the state of gaming on Mac is that all of the M1 machines are actually quite capable of light gaming. The M1 GPU is roughly equivalent to a laptop 1650 - which obviously isn't amazing, but also capable of running pretty much every game at low/medium settings at a playable framerate.
If Apple actually put some effort into getting games onto their platform things would be much better. Look at how many games Stadia was able to offer despite having zero marketshare and being canceled pretty quickly.
if you don't game why do you need amazing CPUs?
In the consumer space on mobile, laptop and desktop the main driver of performance is gaming.
@@SchmakerSchmoo Actually I think the m1 pro is more in-line with the 1650 if geekbench scores are to be believed, but that doesn’t detract from the fact that all apple silicon macs have a faster gpu than an xbox one/ps4. It is absolutely possible to run games, it’s just mainly the lack of bootcamp holding it back I guess. I wouldn’t expect apple to hammer in on gaming since it’s not their primary focus for macs.
The value of Macs really is an entire different game now. I've been using an M1 13" MBP for professional video editing for 2 years now and my only complaint is that I wish I'd gotten more storage (though I use external SSDs for my company's pipeline most of the time anyway.) Performance on this machine I paid $1300 for, though, is still doing better (gaming aside, of course) than the PC I just built for $300 more, and all while having 12+ real hours of battery life and being entirely silent.
The new mac mini is a great deal, but it's such a shame the storage and ram upgrades are so expensive. My friend just added a 1tb ssd to his laptop for 50 dollars and it's made a massive difference for him. Apple might use higher quality components than bargain basement, but $400?? Cmon. Thats dumb.
You can add that same 1tb ssd to the Mac Mini, just buy an external drive enclosure for about £20. I have a 2014 Mac Mini with a mechanical drive but I run the OS from an external ssd and use the mechanical drive for TimeMachine backups.
Apple has always gouged their users this way, even on machines that users could upgrade themselves.
@@Skullet Keep in mind though that unless you actually use a Thunderbird 4 enclosure you take major performance hits accessing external drives.
@@Skullet you're gonna need to spend £100+ for a TB4/USB4 enclosure that will realise the potential speeds of the drive. Though, the £20 enclosures are fine if you're not too concerned about speed.
This is just a testament to how effective it is to get people bought into your ecosystem young. She does a lot of stuff that would be much easier on a PC, but when getting a computer from her family she simply wasn't aware at the time. Different strokes for different folks
I really enjoy this channel. As a windows/android user who’s only started using any apple products in the past two years or so, I find a lot of my feelings reflected in the videos uploaded here. I also like that even though it would be easy to make this just a review channel, the content always seeks to answer a particular question or come at the subject manner from an interesting angle. As a viewer, I couldn’t be happier with the work that Jonathan and the rest of the Mac Address team have done
At the time we bought our M1 mini, we only upgrade the ram to 16GB. Half the reason we bought it was my wife needed a computer, she was perviously a mac user, and this was the peak of the pc parts price gouging epidemic of a couple years ago; so it just made sense at the time. Would buy one again in a heartbeat for her use case if we needed to. I got a M1 Pro Macbook Pro myself since i tend to be more mobile oriented for general computing and i can conveniently share it with my wife. We both also use iPhones etc.
I still have a PC at home for games as well so it's not like have I have to choose one machine to do everything.
mac address is an absolutely wonderful TH-cam channel. I want you and your whole team to know that the quality and detail in every aspect of making a video work does not go unnoticed! these remind me of how great the early casey neistat videos used to made me feel. beautiful stuff
This channel is always great because it’s always honest. No fan boy content.
I'm really thinking of getting a M2 to be my house server. The way it sips power and transcode capabilities make it compelling.
I purchased a base model M1 Mac Mini back when it was released as replacement for my Mid 2015 15" Macbook Pro, and I would agree with what was said in the video. For everyday web-browsing, video calls, etc. it worked flawlessly and was a huge upgrade from my Macbook Pro. But recently I've been doing more creative work, specifically photo-editing with Lightroom, graphic design with Canva and some video editing with Final Cut Pro. This workflow really started to slow the M1 Mac Mini down and show the limitations of the 8 gb of RAM. I decided to start using my Macbook Pro for the same workflow, and though importing, exporting and rendering all takes a little bit longer, it has felt like the computer is waaaayyy faster because of the 16 gb of RAM and 2 gb of dedicated VRAM. Most of the videos I watched about the M-series processors when they were released said that the 8 gb of RAM would feel like 16 gb of RAM, and that was just flat out wrong! But, luckily the M2 Pro is now in the Mac Mini, and once I'm able to sell my M1, I'll be upgrading and will probably get 32 gb of RAM just to future proof myself!
The base M1 or M2 with 16GB of RAM would run circles around the 2015 MBP. Definitely get the M2 Pro if that is what you want, but it sounds like you are mostly memory limited, which doesn't require upgrading all the way to the M2 Pro to solve.
The base M2 with 16GB of RAM is very close in performance to the M1 Pro both in CPU and GPU tasks.
I am starting to think all those techtubers who said "those 8 gb feel like 16gb" were told by Apple to say this specific line....
I also have the M1 Mac Mini base model, and I dont just feel but I can see (with specific monitoring software) how the 8gb get filled up very fast. And I dont even do any heavy tasks. Just browsing, emails, youtube and such.
i liked how honest she was! however why doesn’t she just get a gaming PC?
I think that it's because she is a student and just don't have money for it, and maybe she don't have a permanent place to live. If you move a lot this makes PC setup an issue
@@vadym8713 Why not get a lower end gaming laptop? She could definitely get away with like a 1650 or a 3050 in one of those < $500 laptops. Tons of students have them these days
@@bandombeviews6035 less than 500!? I think you missed 1 in front of even 2 in case of 3060
Does MacAdress not know the iPad air 5 exists? It also costs $600, $550 if you're a student. They don't have a video on it, having reviewed the regular iPad that only works with the gen1 pencil. Yet it's been out for over a year.
I actually just got a Mini Pro as a compliment to my gaming pc. Great machine to do everything else while using a tiny amount of power. The amount of heat that my desktop puts off, especially during the summer is pretty bad. As far as specs, 16GB is easy to use as I have found but that’s about as far as I would need to push it.
that's actually a good reason to use Mac, haven't thought about it. But your PC must be good during cold winter times )
I got an M1 Mac mini about a year ago, it’s completely stock except for 10gb Ethernet. I got an OWC miniStack with a 2TB Pcie Gen4 nvme and an 8tb 3.5” hard drive all connected via thunderbolt 4.
My plan was when it was getting too old, I’d have it be a server. But so far it’s been great for video encoding/editing, photography (migrated my photos library to the external nvme) and a place to back up my iOS devices (there’s tutorials on how to get that automatically stored on an external drive). I haven’t been able to get it break a sweat yet, although encoding using handbrake has been slower than I thought, the fans have never been audible. I have a KVM switch that allows me to switch to an Xbox when I want to game, handy now that AOE2 is on Xbox!
My only issue is exactly what Jonathan was saying. Once I upgrade to the ram and storage I need, I might as well stick with my PC. I also like playing the occasional game, so there's that
The funny thing is, I have a 2018 13 inch MacBook Pro. I haven't really used Apple Silicon Macs, though, so it still feels fine to me.
I’m wondering if she said anything about having to move from a laptop to a desktop. I imagine if she did it was cut for relevancy, but I’d think that would be as or more impactful than anything else for “an average user”. Also, I wonder how well Parallels runs Windows on an M2.
The way she was filmed using her initial laptop, I would be surprised if she didn't mention it.
There are many people who have been on laptops for their entire adult life and simply do not enjoy using desktops anymore. Imagine going from an Apple keyboard, trackpad, and Retina screen to a bargain 1080p monitor and $40 Logitech keyboard and mouse. She seemed utterly unimpressed by everything. She might have been impressed by a MacBook M2 Air that gets 20 hour battery life, zero fan noise, beautiful design, and an improved keyboard, but we'll never know.
I use Crossover to play Rogue Tower (among a couple other things) and it works flawlesly. I maybe loose a little bit of rought power due to emulation but I was impressed.
The issue with Parallels running Windows is, iirc, it's still gotta run Windows On ARM, which still sucks
@@mbvglider Apple keyboard is not that great, I could live without trackpad but yes, 1080p instead of retina is a hard choice, I have this type of monitor and when I switch from Retina to external screen I think I'm starting to loose my vision, everything is so blurry. BUT if you just use crappy monitor you could get use to that and with Mac mini you don't have that, so no issues
the quality of this production is really nice!. love the storytelling and the editing and the cinematography!
I feel like it would be interesting to see Jonathans' take on using something with the Gnome desktop. I know I've always liked the macos ui, and gnome appeals to many of the same things for me. I wonder if being more used to a unix based os would give him a unique perspective compared to someone who is more of a windows native.
The issue with modern Linux has never been the UI, it is the software support.
macOS lacks games but most other applications are readily available (Office, Adobe suite, CAD applications, etc.). Many of those same software suites simply are not available natively on linux, which is massive barrier to an "average" user enjoying their experience there.
Respect to the demonslayer wallpaper. 👌
I haven't used it before but if I want a Desktop mac I will definitely start with this. Thank for the video and keep up the great work!
If you're going for the ULTIMATE cheapest option, yeah a mac mini will still blow many similar devices out of the water. BUT if you REALLY can afford it, I suggest getting the lowest model Macbook Air as you can use it in clamshell mode (having the lid closed and connected to power and a monitor) and you can use it like a desktop computer with the same M2 performance. The great thing about this is that you can also just use it as a laptop and take it around with you. It's powerful enough to do both.
I have a macbook pro 16" and do the same. It's very nice peace of mind for me to know that I can use my macbook pro as either a desktop or just take it with me as a laptop.
@@jjpark98 Never thought of that. I have a MacBook Pro 13" and it works great. Instead of spending more on that it could be a great idea. Thanks
Definitely get one. The M1 Mac Mini was my first Mac and it made macOS my new favorite operating system. I traded it in for a 14 inch Macbook Pro that has pretty much become my computer swiss army knife now
@@DrAnimePhD oh that’s nice
I’m a mixing engineer and sound designer and, while waiting for my M1 Max MBP to show up, I tried a 16gb M1 Mac Mini which worked great for my then current projects but was CONSTANTLY swapping memory.
Haven’t had any of that happen on my 32gb M1 Max.
I think the biggest thing that holds me from getting one Mac is the lack of some games I like because MacOS is not compatible and that's something I don't know if it can be solved
If I was to make a suggestion: I would recommend you get a Steam Deck with your Mac, or get a Macbook Air to use as a companion device to your PC. A 256gb Steam Deck + Mac Mini/M1 Macbook Air is less than the majority of prebuilt gaming PCs, and in terms of the Macbook + Steam Deck combo is the ultimate in portability.
playstation and nintendo exist jose.
@@flamingcheetopuff8434 but I like playing with mouse and keyboard and it also cost more ;-;
@@Jbesed pcs cost more than playstation or any gaming console.
@@Jbesed you can use mouse and keyboard with Steam Deck.
You could also use the Steam Deck and the Mac for Steam Remote Play
I’m rocking the M2 Air with 8GB of RAM, but I upgraded to the 10-core chip and the 512 GB SSD. I have yet to find it’s limits with what I do. I’m mostly spreadsheeting, and a little photoshop work on the side as a hobby. Best laptop I’ve ever owned. Although, I came from a 2012 MBP with the i5. I was due for an upgrade.
I recently picked up one of these (but with 512gb storage) and it's been great. I just wanted a quiet and power efficient browsing and sysadmin machine instead of running Linux on my loud and warm gaming PC.
Why did you go with 512gb storage? Is it required for your work? Asking because I instead just went with the ram upgrage and an external SSD.
My elderly neighbours PC broke a year or two ago. I had been using a MBP for work as a SWE and didnt want a neighbour pestering me constantly. Told him to get the budget Mac mini as he already had a monitor, keyboard and mouse and he's has a pretty painless experience.
I would have bought my own, but i ended up getting an M1 MBP just so im not chained to a desk.
I bought myself a base Macbook Air m2. At first i was kinda worried about only 8gb of ram, but it really doesnt feel as limiting as it does on windows machines. Especially for the Macbook air, applications that i used were more limited by the heat generation and limited gpu power or even the only 256 gb of storage rather than ram. But still kinda sucks with apples pricing. 16gb ram with 512 gb storage would be an almost perfect machine for me, but apples pricing really makes it not worth for me
I also have the same configuration but im worried about the 8GB ram if its going to perform the same next year or the year after .
@@arminoandrigo4599 It will be fine. Even now they rely heavily on swap. A couple of memory-hungry webapps eat out all of the ram and more. You can barely feel it tho, and not much will change in a few years. A bigger question will be how long can your ssd survive writing hundreds GBs per day. Then again, in most endurance tests you'll see drives survive multiple times it's TBW, and Apple hopefully uses quality components.
I had a MacBook Air M1 for work and recently bought my own 14 inch. The biggest factor in upgrading was the ram. 8 gigs just isn’t enough anymore for anyone but the lightest (or most patient) users
I use my mini m1 8gb for garageband, websurfing, microsoft office, managing photos or files whatever and used it for gamecube emulation.
As a machine for personal use, it works perfectly fine. But I could imagine it slowing down when doing heavy work.
@@JesseLegend149 Good point, it is definitely still a great machine and I definitely could have used it for years to come if I was willing to put up with a bit of slowdown.
2 Mac address videos in 1 week! I must be dreaming 😂
If one has a specific use for this machine that does not require more RAM or storage for their particular apps or workflow, it's a total deal. I have mine set up as a server (including Plex, using external disks for media storage) - and it works brilliantly. As Apple's least expensive machine, it seems way overpowered for just web browsing, e-mail and office style apps.
It's impressive the value proposition they offer, but the restrictions placed upon MacOS and its' inability to do what I want (e.g. Use external graphics cards for rendering out 3D scenes in path tracers, generally play recreational games, poor by contrast management of multiple monitors), holds it back substantially. It isn't intuitive to me, and I find a lot of the design decisions hurt my ability to just... Work.
Whilst Windows isn't great in a lot of aspects, it is a lot more flexible for me, and the freedom to install it on any hardware I want is good enough, whilst Linux is a little too... Needy with my time to make things work. I like my devices to actually feel like they're mine. If I want to use them unconventionally, I should be able to do that. Apple feels like that one car company that sends cease and desist letters if you paint the car a different colour.
It's also for that reason that I'll be moving away from the Ipad Pro next time I upgrade, whilst the pencil is nice, there are plenty of android options, and whilst they may not be quite as aesthetically pleasing, I know the pens work just as well, whilst also having a lot more options for my use-cases, including easily using them like a Cintiq if I so please. Makes it very appealing to bring with me if I travel with my laptop.
I'm a graphic design student and I did buy the cheap m2 mac mini. I'm using it for 10 days and I can say it was a good decision. First of all, I have money left to buy pretty good peripherals. I bought a pretty good qhd 27-inch Dell monitor. I also bought a good mechanical keyboard and a good mouse. Even when I collect all of them in the country I live in, it comes to two-thirds of the price of an m2 macbook air. Yes, it's weird not being able to carry it but using a big monitor is amazingly good. Using a screen larger than 4 times the Air's screen changed my whole workflow. The second great thing is speed. Apps and windows open so fast that it feels so natural. I can easily do all my graphic design work. Yes, 16 gb ram would be better, but even if I'm working on a very large file, I haven't seen any problems other than half-second stutters from time to time. It certainly does not prevent me from doing my work. As someone who plays a lot of games, I can say that if the game is on macos, you can play it quite well. I use cloud gaming for most games, but you can definitely play games like Civilization or Tomb Raider at 1440p full settings. Of course, it is not without problems, but I found the solution for all of them. First of all, the number of ports is not enough. I'm using a USB keyboard and mouse and the USB a ports are already full. But I knew this so I chose a monitor with a USB hub. Another problem is the lack of a webcam and microphone. As a cheap solution, I can use my phone as a webcam. Unfortunately, I can only use the microphone with a headset connected. Another problem is the 256 GB SSD. While it's enough for programs and a few games, it's not enough for my photos, backups, and work files. I am using a cheap 1 TB external hard drive as a solution. This little computer can do just about anything I want. Two more of my friends from school bought it and they loved it too. I definitely recommend this computer. Especially at this price.
I’m rocking the base M2 Mac mini! I traded in my base M1 Mac mini day 1 for it. Only had to pay $230 for it with instant trade-in credit.
I also use photoshop and Final Cut. The fact that it has ProRes media engine is a big game changer. I don’t have any RAM or CPU/GPU issues.
I also don’t care about storage size, since I keep all my files in iCloud Drive
“The cheapest” is both my kidneys plus all my family’s.
“How do you upgrade memory”
That right there kill the argument of the video 😂😂😂😂
To be fair, 8GB is enough for a person that just wants a macOS computer. Even for work, you can use it, just expect anything to be slower than a $2K or even $4K computer.
For the price , the base Mac Mini is way better than a similar price i5 computer (that’s probably the cost of an $800 i5 computer)
My dad got one of the base models so shortly after it was announced that he didn’t know of it yet
And it’s a huge upgrade from our piece-of-sh*t imac we had before. APPLE WHY DID YOU SELL IMACS WITH MECHANICAL HARD DRIVES FOR SO LONG
I bought the cheapest iMac and then I realized, that Mac OS isn’t that good for a multi monitor setup
As good value as the base Mac Minis are, that and how costly it is to upgrade storage/RAM is a deal breaker
macOS is great for multi monitor, even excellent! M1/m2 isn’t. Only support for one external display. Pro supports two… and my old intel MacBook maybe four.
@@xvaara my M2 Mac Mini supports 2 Displays but the way MacOS handels them is just unintuative, why do i need to klick on the window again to select it? why isnt my mous being on there enough? and even without that i have a lot of problems with the way mac os does anything because i need to clock way more to do the simpelest tasks.
This was an incredible watch. The writing and production quality is top notch.
"How can we upgrade it?" dude... she's NOT a Mac user. That kind of blasphemy doesn't fly in our cult.. AHEM CULTURE, I mean culture. She seems like one of those kids that were left in the basement because her parents didn't want to expose her to the world (PCs, in this case). Once she'll play on a PC it would probably be like seeing the outdoors for the first time.
I have a machine that sits in the corner, receives video files (in an assortment of types) from field engineers, converts them to mp4 files, tags them and moves them to another machine all using shortcut automations. It's a base model M1 Mac Mini and I log into it (via ARD) every once in a while to check for OS updates. It never skips a beat and just does what it does without any fuss.
Terrific video and explanations of the tradeoffs with new Macs. For me, the combination of M1/M2's memory combo drawbacks, lack of upgradability, and 64-bit-only apps with 10.15 Catalina and above really limit my ability to use modern Macs. I have a 2018 Mini with 10.14 Mojave and that works great for any non-gaming tasks like uni work and . But, since a huge chunk of my PC use is in games, I have a dedicated Win11 rig which is far better for that.
The 2011 iMac was the peak of Apple computers for me, an amazing 1440p display for the time (still holds up great today), every spec being upgradable (or multiplied in the case of storage drives) and very repairable, great BootCamp support, and terrific for gaming. I used it as my sole computer for games until 2019 when the GPU went kaput after 7 years of heavy use. A new GPU solved it, and it still works like new. I'm still amazed that the laptop-spec Radeon 6970M 1GB model was able to run so many things so well for so long in that machine.
I found myself in the same boat - love the Mini, but can't really justify it because I game on PC.
I really love the Mini. My grandparents have one and it's had absolutely ZERO issues. They're pretty decently tech savvy for their age, but I'd put them at average or below-average to the general public. They can do whatever they need. Much better improvement from their previous windows machine.
When I was a student, I really wanted a Mini. But I needed a laptop, so I went the Windows route instead for affordability.
I still want a mini... but I can't justify it. For current-day me, my ideal setup is a Windows desktop for gaming, and an Apple laptop for daily use. Very hard to justify a Mini, but even harder to justify spending twice the price on a laptop that doesn't perform any better.
But I still think the Mini is Apple's best product, bar-none. If anybody wants to try Apple, Mini is the way to go. Godspeed the mighty Mini.
Take a look at how Windows runs in Parallels and see if there is a major performance hit for games. Other then FPS games you would think everything would run fine. Maybe without the comfort features of PC hardware, but should be sufficient.
780 dollars for a full mac setup is crazy, never thought it would be a thing
Next video: 30 Day PC challenge for Jonathan
I'm typing this on an M1 Mac Mini that I use for work. It's hooked to my LG CX TV and I work from my couch. It's handled everything I've thrown at it, but my work needs are pretty basic. I am contemplating the M2 Pro Mac Mini to replace it, as that has HDMI 2.1 and I could use 4k120hz on my TV. Other than being limited to 1080p120hz, I have no complaints with this unit.
For the same reason they also have fairly affordable iPhones it is to get you into their ecosystem.
I do think it is very competitive at the price but in the same way that consoles are competitive. They take a loss/less profit on the hardware because they know you will be buying more of their products in the future. In the longer term this can easily result in spending multiple top tier PC's worth on hardware and peripherals that aren't anywhere close to the price to performance than with the subsidized first unit you bought, if anything you will spend a lot more money for less performance in most workloads.
It makes me sad that the “less than 3% of Steam users” being on Mac is the deterrent being used to justify not developing for them. Mac users make up fewer Steam users because they’re underserved. The percentage would be much higher if studios actually put in the effort for them.
9:26 a very nice touch, stopping the music when she starts think for a second
I appreciate how the writing has changed since the start of the channel, I was afraid we would just get an info dump channel but the framing each video as a story has made them super enjoyable to watch.
She gave you the UP AND DOWN when she opened that door....
I am a master's student, and I need to do the assignment (a lot of writing), Zoom meetings, and do some data science things related to machine learning. Still, it blows my mind when I do training compared to my friend's beefy desktop. With the same script and data set, I could do it in seconds while he in minutes. My MacBook pro is not the new one. It is only MBP 14 m1 pro, and I do not regret buying it. Especially with an external monitor (a must if you like to do something on a desktop) or NVME with a thunderbolt case if you like video editing and don't have enough internal SSD.
i have a macbook pro m1 16 inch that I use for most work tasks since it's 16gigs of ram. I have a macbook air m2 that's a base model that I use for when I travel for work and most other things. My macbook pro almost always stays docked at my desk in my home office, but is nice that if I can't work in my office I can take it and still have the same power from somewhere else with a fairly large screen. The air base model has worked great for me for spreadsheets, word docs, web browser, email, etc. I haven't seen any significant performance issues for what I use it for and it's much more portable than my heavier bigger macbook pro. OneDrive auto unloads files from my local machine I haven't used in awhile, which keeps my storage managed even at the smaller 256 hard drive. The Air also handles using Playstation remote play pretty well when paired with a backbone controller as long as my internet connection is good where I'm trying to connect home from to play while I'm traveling.
I got the M1 base model.
For every day tasks, i.e. browsing, emails, its great. I even use it for learning Python.
The only thing one has to watch out for with the base model is to stay away from swap memory. So close your tabs/windows/apps once you dont need them anymore. And this device should last for a long time :)
"How can we upgrade it?" Ooof, Alexis going straight for the jugular 🤣
9:08
"You think it's that powerful"
"No"
💀
Alexis using the macbook for playing PTCGO is such a vibe, she gets it lol I love this approach to the apple ecosystem cause I do feel it could help get a better sense of who the audience of these devices are for. I'm in the same boat, I want to play Resident Evil Village but I'm the same way.
My 10 year old Macbook Pro had 16 GB of ram and 512 GB of storage. I am shocked how that's not even the baseline standard of brand new desktop machines. The 8 GB/256 GB base hasn't moved in so long.
Tip of the hat to whoever lit and colored the interview segment.
I use a Mac Mini M1 for work as a headless CI&CD agent. It builds, tests, signs and submits the apps we develop to both apple's and android's stores. It's cheap and reliable.
Just got this computer about a month ago. Pushed it to its outer limits with iTunes, Safari (watching LTT), War Thunder open in a small window ... it was fine, you could fry an egg on the logo, but fine. I removed two 4in fans from an old laptop cooling stand thingy and rested them on top.
Sadly, The way Macs are being marketed and made, it's not suppose to be for gaming. Only for creating/production stuff. So no matter what, you either have to get a gaming console or PC to balance it but at that point, may as well just get a beefed up PC that can do both.
The even crazier thing is that this is currently ALREADY $50 off on Amazon. $549 for this performance is just an absolute no brainer.
I have a PC gaming setup at my desk and bought one at that price simply to have a second machine there to use Mac only apps I like to use on my MacBook Pro.
This channel has become so good lately. Jonathan provided great content.
I bought the M1 Mac Mini (16GB, 512GB) just when it launched 2020 because a I needed a new computer so badly - I was not based and had no expectations to it. My main tasks were/are basic Office stuff like: Word, Excel, E-mail, browsing the web (often with multiple tabs open) and light photo/video editing and using Apple Music. After a while (in early 2021) I upgraded to a Benq 4K monitor and Bose computer speakers. All I can say, after 2,5 years I‘m still in love with this machine. It never let me down, still is blazing fast, power consumption is ridiculously low (yeah, that‘s also what counts nowadays). The M2 might be just an evolutionary update, but I think it makes everything a bit better. All I can say: Don‘t buy below 16GB RAM and 1TB of memory in 2023 and you will be happy for years when having my kind of work load and need a reliable computer.
8GB of RAM in 2023 = library computer
I freaking love this guy. I’ve never owned a Mac in my life.
Mom’s early 2014’ MBA is still going strong at performing basic stuff for her.
I've had an M1 Mac Mini with 8GB of RAM for over a year now. No hiccups as long I keep plenty for room free on the internal SSD for memory swapping. But I HATE the seconds I have to wait for the Mac to spin up external hard drives, even if I want to save to the internal drive
Hoping for a Mac Mini with Pararel setup video since Windows-on-ARM can now be semi-officially installed on Mac Mini.
Digital Foundry: "MetalFX upscaling is genuinely impressive"
Mac Address: "I feel like I've not put my contacts in"
Lol. I think I'll stick with DF when it comes to objective reviews of graphics.
I'm a student using my M1 Air 8GB for about 1 year and it's perfectly fine for my very browser-only oriented usecase.
"Well made and long lasting"
Several generations of self destructing Mac Books, some hardware bricking updates and the blatant problem of repairing something is anything happens entered the chat
It's wild to me that they still sell 256gb drives, since my wife's 2016 Macbook Pro can barely function with that level of storage.
"it looks like its running out of memory, how can we update that?" Horst's look... hahahaahahaha!
RIP that girl...So 5 years ago...She could be gaming on 8700k and 1080 for that price if not better. Or was 8th gen not quit out back then. She should not had been pressured by her parents.
Glad to hear that the Mac Address team has now expanded!
Where did you guys find Alexis because her final thoughts at the end were so well thought out. I'm not sure most "average" users would have that awareness. She is absolutely right and I see so many friends/family who never listen to her sage words. You have to know what you're going to use the machine for and what you're hoping to achieve. So many people buy ridiculously overpowered and expensive machines for the standard enough tasks they want to do. And the other side of the scale is even worse, people who want to game but buy something underpowered because it's cheap. A lot of less tech-literate people are scared and intimidated when buying a machine and never ask for help in understanding their needs for whatever reason, maybe they're afraid to look stupid to people they know, and then take advice from a salesperson which may not always have their best interest at heart.