ASOIAF THEORY-- The Grey King: Resurrected Hero
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- The true origin of the legendary Grey King of IRONBORN HISTORY.
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Art credited:
The Grey King upon his throne by Arthur Bozonnet in The World of Ice and Fire
Theon is blessed with seawater by the Damphair - by Tommy Arnold Fantasy Flight Games.
Ironborn and the Iron Fleet by Rene Aigner
To Be a Kraken by Gregory Szues for Fantasy Flight Games available at www.fantasyfli...
Olympians: artist unknown
The Seven. Artwork by Guad for Fantasy Flight Games available at www.fantasyfli...
Triton by aryundomiel
House Sunderly sigil by Riusma
Jesus easter by joeatta78-d6sgeiz
Dark Lord by LeonSerade
Dayne sigil by Eagle of Seaguard
Red comet by sreekuttan09
Beric Dondarrion by Billy Christian
Aeron Greyjoy damphair by donatoarts for the A Song of Ice and Fire calendar series
Hyrkoon the Hero, with Lightbringer in hand, leads the virtuous into battle, as depicted by Jordi Gonzales Escamilla in The World of Ice and Fire.
Worshippers of R'hllor, also known as the Lord of Light. - by artist Magali Villeneuve. © Fantasy Flight Games.
Lady stoneheart by Martina Cecilia
Lady Stoneheart by Queen Sansa Stark on Tumblr
Patchface by by M.Luisa Giliberti at www.winterfell....
The Kraken In Pursuit by Mike-Hallstein
Sea monster by Senjouga harahitagi
Nagga's bones by Abend86
Survivor by FrozenStarRo
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The insight you brought with the Ironborn has made them equal to Starks, Martells and Targs in my opinion. I now look for deeper meanings in their chapters instead of the bloodthirsty pirates I initially thought on my first read through.
I love this comment.
They're a complicated nation
Very interesting. I also believe that Nagga's bones could've been a boat.
I'm from Norway, and as a lot of people are aware of(Vikings series being popular and all) the vikings had these long ships with carved heads and tails, and we actually refer to them as "drakeskip"(dragon ships). One famous ship f.ex. bears the name "Ormen Lange"(The Long Snake).
Never saw the Christianity link either. They to worship the image of a dead guy displayed on a cross and believe him to rise again. Its so clear now.
The watery halls resembles Vallhalla of the norse mythology.
Yeah. The only parallel I had noticed was the drowning as a sort of extreme baptism.
Just came from the LML livesteam! and i'm already obsessed. I have always noticed how much Theon has Greyking symbolism. He undergoes a sort of death transformation from which he comes out kinda looking like the greyking. Also i find the fact that Aeron keeps saying that only a "Godly man may sit the sea stone chair" and theon actually means godly very interesting.
Nice! Witches are always welcome in the Disputed Lands!! Thanks for watching!
Theon probably can't have any heirs though
@@totalcomputerdependency There’s the sailor's daughter. Her baby, THEON'S baby, is the heir to the Iron Island.
And Theon didn't even acknowledge her having a name.
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I think George gives us a clue regarding Nagga’s bone being the ribs of an upturned ship
If you recall the turtle the wildlings build to attack the wall
John describes it as looking like an upturned boat
Your videos are really something I look forward to. (+ that cuteness-overload at the end!)
I'll tell Paige, she'll be happy!!
To be fair I think the grey king was part of the group that where the ancestor of the ghiscari probably their leader and the iron born being descendants from merlings can mean an skin changer because of the green seer green sea from ravenous reader and Garth was his brother because he was the son of the amethyst empress with bloodstone and the grey king with the tiger woman
I'll tell you more about the woman in a future video. The amethyst empress is another monomyth and we'll get there.
There theory that the tiger woman is a member of children.
@@sophiawilson8696 Or a Brindled Woman from Sothoryos
Your videos are so thorough. Thank you for putting in the work, this was awesome. Please continue to be awesome :)
Paige you're awesome too
I have to tell you: the quality of your videos is excellent. Very well researched and thoughtfully commented on. This is the best channel I've found in quite a while. Excellent work.
Also, there seems to be a lot of symbolism for Westeros being the Americas and the First Men being Native Americans.
Cool video, but one correction; the trinity doctrine is highly contested and not believed by many christians. Otherwise great video as always.
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Oh my gosh, my heart- your daughter sounds like such a cutie pie
So I think the grey king is more than likely from a older Atlantis or something and the part of crashing and resurrecting is really inspired. Him crashing with the wierwood boat seems off. As far as I can tell there is no mention of weirwood trees outside of westeros. The only mention of weirwood outside of westeros is the door at the house of black and white I think. There is a link still between him slaying naga and weirwood. So the grey king killed naga and the demon tree ygg. what if the legends got a bit mingled? Also (tinfoil warning)what if somehow he becomes a greenseer sees the hammer of the waters or some event like that which drowns whole islands in its wrath and he slays tbe beast. It reminds me of the tree in the well at the night fort being described as the tree attempting to pull the moon into the well.
Hi Mobius, Thanks for watching!! I was wondering, have you seen the other videos in the playlist? This video is best viewed after the others, and it might help answer a few things you have mentioned.
What a name, "Sauron Salt-Tounge" that begs some Silmarillion nuanced analysis. I really like your videos, you have some really insightful perspectives on ASOIAF.
I remember reading a theory explaining that the Ironborn are descendants of people from the Thousand Isles, who migrated East when their habitat was submerged (possibly by a Children-like race living in the forests of Mossovy), which would explain the legend of coming from beneath the waves - the land they used to live in is now beneath the waves. Alternatively, maybe the Iron Isles were a peninsula connected to the mainland shattered by the Hammer of the Waters and inhabited by a strain of First Men, and "coming into the world from beneath the waves" could refer to that lost land under the sea.
Love the channel, the ironborn's storyline is one of my favorites in ASOIAF. Sadly, I feel like their part in this saga is often overshadowed by dragons, wolves and lions....I dunno, maybe it's just me being biased but it seems like everybody is consumed by Jon and/or Danny. Anyway, thanks for giving us something to chew on while we wait for WOW to come out.
Well, stay tuned because I have more Ironborn stuff to hash out. I appreciate the Ironborn storyline because the Grey King is most likely another AA monomyth AND we are given tha most information from the Grey King than any other legend in the series. Thanks for watching and glad you are liking the videos!! Be sure to spread the word!!
The Disputed Lands I'm all about it...subbed, liked and spreading the word.
Dragons, wolves and lions really do command the readers attention. The Disputed Lands has certainly teased out more meaning behind the Iron Born than one might notice upon a first or even second read. Well done and fascinating theories.
... and it was definitely worth the wait! Another great video! Thank you so much for all the work you do uncovering these gems and relaying them to us!!!!
Thank you!! Im just glad Im able to share this with y'all.
Theon will fall and drown in the ice lake at the Crofter's village, but return as a Coldhands-type. What is dead may never die, but rises again, harder and stronger. "Coldhands was the name that the fat boy Sam had given him, for though the ranger's face was pale, his hands were black and hard as iron, and cold as iron too."
Wow when you read the excerpt from the Forsaken Chapter were it ask who would worship a pale dead bloated God with fish nibbling at its face I thought "yeah thats wack,who would worship such a weak thing?" Then I thought about Jesus on a cross dead or dieing bleeding from a wound in his side & was like "ohhhhh never mind"😂
If the gray king was brought down in a storm that may have been the hammer of the waters who initiated the hammer of the waters? Was it the storm king? Doesn’t the storm king have ties to the old gods and the children of the forest?
Hey Bore-os of Myr, thanks for watching!! The answer is not the storm king, but rather the storm god. Watch my video on garth and the grey king and you will get your answers :)
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I always believed the iron born had something to do with the white walkers..probably a benjen stark type character wh was ressurected by the others..pro ably the origin of what is dead kay never die
Yes! The Disputed Lands treat! Thanks Amanda!
Am I the only one who thinks of Spongebob when the Ironborn get all preachy?
Duncan the tall also was resurrected after drowning
Omg your kid
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Alex Kalix right on.
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This was great. I've never read the Forsaken chapter, as I keep thinking I'll just wait for it until TWoW, but my resolution crumbles a little every day. I never knew how similar the Drowned God's description was to Christ and to my beloved Lady Stoneheart (she's a pistol, ain't she?). Makes me think about The Dying of the Light, where the modern descendants of the High Kavalaan culture have changed the sex of one of their female founders to reflect their current violent patriarchal values--in which case we could maybe see Catelyn and Robb as metaphorical stand-ins for the Drowned God and the Grey King. Or maybe not.
Anyway, I'm sure this isn't original to me, but I've been thinking for a while now about that whole bit with the First Men not being seafarers, and how the Iron Islands got settled. Could it simply be that the islands were once part of the mainland of Westeros, drowned by the Hammer of the Waters or a similar catastrophic event? In that case, Naga's bones could just as easily be a petrified Weirwood grove as the ribs of an old ship. It would be one way to isolate yourself from the Others in the Long Night.
Clint Page Preston Jacobs does a series of videos breaking down all the early released chapter and they're pretty good
I like PJ, but he's using Martin's novels to tell his own stories. If I decide to read it, I'll read it for myself first.
Hello from China, Paige.
I hated the series past season 4. But do you think the man who saved Talisa's little brother from drowning was Ironborn?
Fantastic new insights every single time you drop a video TOP NOTCH!
Great video.. zero dislikes that’s wazupp
The Grey King defeating a "sea dragon" and taking its "living fire" was probably just him stealing some knowledge from a defeated sea-faring enemy as he captured its crew, from that they learned the iron-working of their enemy; Uthor of the Hightower's sons, or Argoth Stone-Skin. The ship was made of weirwood, maybe the original Hightower. Hugor was promised 44 might sons, and there are 44 standing stones on Nagga's Hill.
Given the similarities between the ironborn, durrandon, and sisterton mythologies, I think it's extremely likely that at least some of the first men were seafarers.
Okay... Never noticed the Drowned God/Christianity parallels. And the theory at the end is very interesting. A shipwreck victim becomes a religious icon. Very fun. Oh, and tell Paige(?) I did all the things.
Lol!! I will tell Paige she was very effective!! Thanks for watching Steven!!
Disputed lands coming thru again! I'm never disappointed with your videos. So much preparation goes into these and letting your daughter close it out, boss move. Love watching your channel and viewership grow, you deserve it all my friend. Fresh and thorough!! Typical Disputed Lands kinda liking the greyjoys after despising them for years lol.
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They sacrifice people to the Drowned God, the Christian God does not do that, well in the old days they sacrificed animals to the one God.
I didn’t have internet for the summer, so am late to this video but loved it. Your videos always make me think and notice other important things, the parallels. Bran drowning in the weir net, long ship carving being tree carving, sails would be the wings and flying stuff, he’s a Stark so a grey wolf. So much to glean from this.
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the DROWNED GOD is my name on clash of clans lol what is dead may never die
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Is there any more information on the drug that in the Driftwood seat
Check out my 1st video on the black oily stone and the shade of the evening!
ZERO THUMBS DOWN!!! That tells you all you need to know about probably the best new original content creator that nobody has ever heard of. Except her followers and it's downright criminal we are so few. I'd love to hear your take on my not original theory.
I propose that the Targaryen house words "Fire and Blood" are straightforward as the Starks. I think it means blood magic. Also I think it's a recipe for hatching dragon eggs. Dany for example, gave 3 lives to "Rhollor" and got 3, dragon babies for it. 3 lives = 3 dragons. Some people say that the horse's life isn't worth a human life, I say that Drogo cared more about that horse than he did almost every human being on the planet. Godda be worth something. Their house words were the source if their power.
Another fantastic video! Great job Paige!
I get that lml is great but he is long winded
I hit the thumbs up, and I'm already subscribed. I had no intention to comment, but Paige won me over. Great video, looking forward to the next (and good work, Paige).
Victor E Awe! I will tell her! She was just asking if there were any comments!!!
Interesting theory. Looking forward to more of your thoughts.
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@@TheDisputedLands awesome!!! I'm on Team Cersei!!🔥🔥💖
Another great video! Thanks for the detailed work!!
I think euron will be remembered as a hero
EURON'S GOING DOWN IN A BLAZE OF GLORY... IM HOPING HE WONT BE REMEMBERED AS A HERO, BUT YOU'RE RIGHT HES DOING QUITE A FEW GREY KING THINGS.
The Disputed Lands he needs people to be worshipped so he'll have to do something to the others,
He has a valyrian steal suit to fight the white walkers his plan is chaos is a ladder in a larger size whilst LF will save people appearing as the hero euron will do the same appearing as a god
I don't think he will get to keep the suit personally. I tend to think it will be stripped from his dead body.
The Disputed Lands yeah I think it's one of the necessary things to fight an other with a runic shield
I feel like he is possed that he went to vaylria and died and someone else took over his body to carry out it's will
Thank you! Your theorycrafting is strong!
There is one glaring problem with your idea of the First Men and the Greyking. Assuming you're taking the lies of the Andals at face value about the First Men not being a seafaring people (the Arbor? Tarth? Greenstone? I could go on), then this raising an improbable question: HOW DID THE ORIGINAL IRONBORN/FIRST MEN GET ONTO THE IRON ISLANDS IN THE FIRST PLACE?! Namely because, if you believe the Andals' version of history, all of those islands should've been uninhabited until after their arrival, of which I'm about 99% sure that that isn't true.
The answer is the hammer of the waters. There is evidence to suggest the sea level was lower in the ancient past. The thousand isles, the neck, and the arm of dorne are just a few examples. There are suggestive hints of a catastrophic event such as the drowning of whole islands and the hammer of the waters that permanently changed the coastline contours causing some groups to become isolated on newly formed islands. There is also evidence to suggest the myth of galladon of morne from the tarth region is part of theAA/Grey King monomyth which i discuss in the mermaid wife video which i would encourage you to watch. Thanks for watching!
@@TheDisputedLands Hm...I see. Not sure if I agree with this theory, but I can see your point of view at least. Thanks for the prompt reply.
@@Tellemicus no problem! Do me a favor and watch the next video and let me know what you think. You might see things differently. I appreciate the feedback.😊
Do you really think that seafarring people wouldn't recognize the hull of a ship? Its like Eskimoes not recognizing snow. Even if they didn't recognize it at first, they would realize whats going on generations latter.
No considering mythology and beliefs always degenerate and change over time unless they have the most perfect record keeping? We talking about thousands and thousands of years and beliefs change and stuff is forgotten. Also it Inuits not Eskimos and it also what LOTR did too? The whole intro fellowship talks about stuff being forgotten and lost and myth
Iron born characters a do compare it to boats or recognise it as it but still their myth it sea beast. Weirwood trees turn to stone and look pale. The iron born hasn’t had a weirwood tree for ages? The ones they see are still wood like but still compare them to boats too? So they see boats but their whole religion says it a creature duh 🙄
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Amanda do you think you’ll become available on podcast in the future ? I definitely believe you should as well as it making it possible for you to have the lengthier videos that all your research truly deserves and does you justice . Keep doing what you love we all love it also
Good question! I dont have any plans at the moment for a podcast format. Good suggestion though and i may look at doing something like this in the future.
Paige sounds like a clever young lady, just like her mum! Best regards to you & yours.
LOOVE IT! Please keep doing great things with these.
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Great vid. Very interesting theory. Good job, Paige ! :)
Thank you so much for the effort you put into the research and making of your videos. The amount of info you gather, and art work/ imagery you use make for a very demonstrative experience for us viewers. I am a huge GOT/ASOIAF fan. I follow 6 or 7 youtube channels very thoroughly, and after the completion of the show, I have zero doubt that I will be watching every single one if your videos. After watching 8 of your videos, you are now my favorite channel. I have spent countless hours pondering the more obscure and perriferal aspects to this amazing world, and the theories you expand on here will feed my idle musings for a long time to come.
I appreciate this channel very much
That is an incredibly huge compliment. Thank you so much! Im taking some time off for myself and my family but Im hoping things will calmdown sometime after school starts back up for my children. In the meantime make sure to check out some other lesser known channels like Alabastur for theories and Top Shelf Fandom for popular commentary. This comment was a pleasant suprise, thank you!
@@TheDisputedLands best of luck with whatever situation need to be your prioritiy at the moment. Family first. Hopefully you make it back soon, in the meantime you have plenty of content out there for us to catch up to.
Great Video!
Thank you so much!
I LOVE your videos! They are very well thought out and very well read. And as a mom I LOVE that your daughter wanted to be a part of it!
Awe thank you! My son got to do the outro for the most recent video too😁!
The Disputed Lands I can’t wait to get there! I am so happy that you let them be involved! My daughter tries to ‘help’ me when I create (draw or sew) and I end up just giving her, her own tools 😊 it’s very sweet.
I think you hit major gold with the kisses by fire and kiss aspect. The rest of it is a little hopeful but still great
Hey thanks! If you are skeptics id encourage you to watch the next video in the series regarding the grey king's mermaid wife and if you havent already. Thanks for watching and commenting!
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Simply a amazing video!
It's been worth the time waiting for 😊 I really love your videos and ideas/theories! (Having been a total mythology nerd all my life 😅)
Keep 'em coming!
Love mythology!! Youre in the right place, thanks for watching!!
I think we can dismiss 'The First Men were not a seafaring people' out of hand. There's clearly many examples of them using sea travel, including as part of their foundational colonisation of Westeros
Hey thanks for watching. This is sn interesting take Id like to know more about the foundational First Men seafarers that colonized Westeros. Or are you referring to the GEOTD or the Men that came before the First Men.
@@TheDisputedLands well, at least according to the 'orthodox' legends, the First Men invaded Westeros over the Arm Of Dorne, the Children broke it with magic, but the First Men continued to come over via boats.
I help moderate a GOT prequels Space on Quora, and contribute to the main ASOIAF/GOT Space, a great deal of my writing is on there or just on general Quora.
@@jamesperkins191 hey very cool. I started out in the old school forums myself. I'm even more intrigued. By the time the Andals invaded the First Men had seafaring technology, but the only foundational First Men to have this technology were the Iron Islanders. Could you expand on where the series referred to these Foundational First Men coming over by ship after the arm was broken?
@@TheDisputedLands well, Foundational isn't an in-text term, but the Dawn Age legends definitely say 'but the First Men continued to come, reinforced from the sea'.
Of course we don't really know, so much ASOIAF history is canon-rumours.
And of course, maybe the history is garbled and the 'reinforcments' WERE the Andals, with the First Men only having the continent to themselves for a few decades or centuries rather than millenia. Maybe the Children were aloof to the differences of Human nations and to their understanding they were ALL just First Men invaders.
@@jamesperkins191 I'm sorry to be the one to break it to you, but what you quoted is not mention in the books.
great video!
Thank you, great video as always! Hugs & sunshine 🌞 N
Interesting to link this theory would be the Chinese treasure fleets and the legends left behind.
Compelling stuff! Thank you for all the work in this
Posted on my Bday, yay! :D
I love your stuff, always exited when you put up new stuff :D
That being said, I usually watch on a laptop with shitty speakers and a malfunctioning AUX, so I would appreciate if very much you could turn up the volume on your mic for your next video :)
Glad you are liking the videos! My mic is unfortunately all the way up, I have to go back during editing and increase the volume through my audio editing software. I do this but I have a difficult time gauging what will be too loud or not loud enough. I don't have anything to go from so I am really to the point where I am just guessing where the volume should be.
Turn it up just a little bit next time, and I shall be your feedback :)
I saw you on the chat with In Deep Geek and have watched some of your videos now. Great analysis! I love the way how you explore the true origin of these legends! Very well done and it absolutely makes sense!
And your little daughter is adorable. :-)
Hey thank you so much! It was a treat to read this comment. Thanks for taking the time to check out my stuff🤗