What Was the Hammer of the Waters? Westeros Disaster Hunters - Ice and Fire Theory

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  • @tracymetherell8744
    @tracymetherell8744 ปีที่แล้ว +385

    Never apologize for talking about symbolism! That is what sets you apart and what makes your videos so interesting.

    • @Gnardonic096
      @Gnardonic096 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Agreed

    • @anorangetabby
      @anorangetabby ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Agreed!

    • @Koryoswolfspirit
      @Koryoswolfspirit ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Have to add a voice saying he can (and has been recently) take it too far

    • @christyncain9087
      @christyncain9087 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Exactly!!

    • @Gnardonic096
      @Gnardonic096 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@Koryoswolfspirit That is his expertise and his niche. It is why I appreciate his perspective. His studies regarding symbolism are highly refined and are deeply fascinating. If people understood how important symbolism is, they would be more open minded and attentive towards all of the little details.
      It is all metaphysical information embedded within the physical which speaks to us as a nonverbal language. It is archetypal code which helps us to understand the design signature and structure of our own souls, something which is at the very heart of our collective consciousness. Knowing symbolism helps us to not only navigate our external and internal worlds but also to make sense of our dreams and the messages of our Creator, in other words, the purposes of our lives. Which, each and every one of us are different, unique archetypes and we each gravitate towards certain symbols. I find, in my humble opinion, it is optimal for us to learn as much about all the various symbols and their meanings in order to not only hone in on our our custom self but also to understand how they all connect and thus cooperate within a unified system. The goal is for our own souls, as symbols, to operate within a cohesive system in order to carry out the work embedded within the Song of Ice and Fire. This song can be understood by absorbing the lights of the Sun and Moon, primarily through our eyes, for the language or light energy contain psionic codes which further our evolution and prepare us for the ever generating next steps.

  • @Buch0u_1
    @Buch0u_1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    Durran Godsgrief is the story that sold me on Baratheon being my favorite house in the setting. They're so temperamental, stubborn, and "screw you I'll do it anyway." To the point a man built a house so strong it keeps out the malding of pissy gods while he rails their daughter. Their warcry/house motto is also so badass. Not to mention Bobby B's utter roflstomp of Rhaegar.
    Just such a gigachad house.

    • @danieldelaney1377
      @danieldelaney1377 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      To be fair those guys weren't barathions tho

    • @Buch0u_1
      @Buch0u_1 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@danieldelaney1377 true but they've held to that really stubborn nature

    • @ladygrey7425
      @ladygrey7425 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Makes sense. The Durrandons/Baratheons in general (and Robert in particular) take a lot of influence from Thor (god of thunder, lightning, storms, oak trees, strength, hallowing, protection, and fertility. Noted as stubborn and large, wields a mighty hammer, etc)

    • @cloverazar5315
      @cloverazar5315 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@danieldelaney1377well yes and no. They’re Durrandons through Argella, and since Argella is the descendant of the wind and storm… those Baratheon boys *are* the storm, as in, genetically 😂
      “Allegedly”, anyways

  • @chungowungo769
    @chungowungo769 ปีที่แล้ว +113

    The Hammer of the Waters is actually a resurrected, time-traveling Robert Baratheon, who literally uses his hammer to shatter the stepstones.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  ปีที่แล้ว +26

      {grandpa Simpson voice} NOW WE'RE TALKIN!!

    • @cloverazar5315
      @cloverazar5315 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Gods, he was strong 😂

    • @jlshel42
      @jlshel42 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

      Some call getting blackout drunk “time traveling”, so…

    • @Random_UserName4269
      @Random_UserName4269 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@jlshel42unfortunately that’s the wrong direction..

    • @danielawesome36
      @danielawesome36 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Nah, it's definiteky a time-travelling Gendry. He's "Waters" and Robert isn't.

  • @SSquirrel1976
    @SSquirrel1976 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    The hammer smashing Rhaegar's armor and the jewels spraying into rthe water also is a pretty good callback to the Hammer event creating the Stepstones

  • @kileygarrett2141
    @kileygarrett2141 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Your videos on ASOIAF are the ones that feel the closest to a true content analysis and not just normal speculation and I love it

  • @cowboyoutlaw2444
    @cowboyoutlaw2444 ปีที่แล้ว +154

    As a Native American who was raised quite traditionally. This subject is so refreshing/fascinating from a fantasy standpoint.
    For anyone wondering my tribes are Yuchi, Cherokee, Choctaw, Osage and Creek. We even go back to Oklahoma every year to take place in our harvest ceremony. Which most Europeans would have referred as blood rituals.
    Keep it up LML I loved the Mystery knight read through!

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  ปีที่แล้ว +48

      That's dope man and there's a lot more to the comparison too, Martin lives in New Mexico and I think he's pretty into the history of the continent

    • @LarisaBayaMomo
      @LarisaBayaMomo ปีที่แล้ว +20

      I love that you were raised traditionally, it would be very sad to lose such a beautiful culture. And keep sharing your knowledge. 😊

    • @cowboyoutlaw2444
      @cowboyoutlaw2444 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Thank you very much! All we can do is pass it onto our kids and hope they appreciate it like we have. I love this community! Much love as always myth heads.

    • @lokdog257
      @lokdog257 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      That would be a post-Christian Europe, like any other primitive cultures and traditions, ancient European rituals often had animal and human sacrifice.

    • @NoConsequenc3
      @NoConsequenc3 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@lokdog257yeah a few powers destroyed most old culture nearly completely

  • @sblinder1978
    @sblinder1978 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Maesters have suppressed this knowledge but the First Men came to Westeros in giant stone donuts. That's why the Children broke the Arm of Dorne, to keep the First Men from rolling in any more stone donuts. To make matters worse, earthquaking a stonut just turns it into a ringfort.

  • @autje1970
    @autje1970 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    Going for 45 minutes without mentioning the moon meteors. Impressive!

  • @PinkGrapefruit22
    @PinkGrapefruit22 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    I think GRRM was at least partially inspired to write the Durran Godsgrief myth based on the origin myth associated with Dinas Emrys in Wales. In the myth, a ruler, Vortigern, keeps trying to build a tower on a specific spot, but it keeps falling down. He is told by his wise men that for the tower to be successfully built, he must sacrifice a boy not born of mortal man. He found a boy named Ambrosius/Emrys (in a later version, Myrddin/Merlin) who told him that the real issue was that on the site of the tower was a hidden pool in which two dragons fought one another, a red one and a white one. This story contains many of the same elements you identified: a king trying to build a stronghold that keeps getting destroyed, that king consulting another mythical figure (in GRRM's version, that was Brandon the Builder) who appears as a child, possible child sacrifice, and dragons!

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  ปีที่แล้ว +12

      no doubt this is the inspiration for Monty Python's bit too

    • @Slechy_Lesh
      @Slechy_Lesh ปีที่แล้ว +6

      And this legend resulted in the Welsh flag featuring a red dragon, iirc

  • @Secean
    @Secean ปีที่แล้ว +23

    I hope Im not too late to the party here, but Id like to add another strong link between antlers and storms! I havent seen GRRM use Sámi mythology much but there is a god called Ukko that is associated with weather, sky, harvest and thunder. On a sacred island called Ukkonsaari an archaeological site dedicated to him was found, it was a cave filled with reindeer antlers, all of them standing with the spikes downwards which is a very clear parallel as to how lightning looks when it comes from the sky

  • @michaelcnapier
    @michaelcnapier 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I can’t believe I missed this video from over a year ago! (I blame the ALGORITHIM) As usual David, another excellent theory! I love it when you apply logical scientific reasoning to Westeros and how the magic actually works. It’s always fascinating to think about. Thanks!

  • @cbob213
    @cbob213 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    Not to mention that Maester Luwin crawled on his hands and knees. Pulling himself along his belly with his arms. Aaaaaaall the way across Winterfell and into the Godswood. To die with his blood seeping into the roots of the tree.
    Does that sound like someone who doesn’t believe in the power of the Old Gods and the tales of Old Nan?

    • @Xazamas
      @Xazamas 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Reminds me of the saying "everyone is an atheist until the plane starts to crash."

    • @jorenvanderark3567
      @jorenvanderark3567 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Xazamas
      Yep, and then they start to pray to the Morrigan.

    • @ranfan1820
      @ranfan1820 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​​@@XazamasYou forgot one exception...THE MANNIS.

  • @buntun3670
    @buntun3670 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Durran sounds like Durin the first Dwarf in Tolkien's universe. Another of many ideas that may have been borrowed from the professor is this on 36:55 of magic being refereed to as music. The Ainur who create Ardar are said to have "sung" it into existence, Finrod Felegund had a magic duel with Sauron - described as "music" in The Silmarillion.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've been wondering what Martin was saying by using the Durran name for tbis entire house. And I still am not sure. Maybe the part about Durran the dwarf seeing the crown of stars in the mirrormere? Martin recycles that for Hugor Hill and then names Tyrion, a dwarf, after Hugor

    • @buntun3670
      @buntun3670 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dwarves were created by Aule the smith btw, some more hammered symbols

  • @themanyinone6
    @themanyinone6 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The whole ASOIAF ancient lore always reminds me of the Graham Hancock books but in fantasy edition, it has it all: A lost advanced ancient civilization during the Ice Age, years of darkness, a cataclysmic meteoric disaster that changed the land, great flood, ancient myths/lore around the world that match, astronomical kind of religion, megalithic constructions.... And I love all of it. Please, keep up the amazing work, it's tremendously awesome!

    • @jamesgjbrown
      @jamesgjbrown ปีที่แล้ว

      Except graham hancock’s racist propaganda wrapped fantasy that isn’t well written. He’s a 1/10 hack.

  • @b0baf00t8
    @b0baf00t8 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    Such a great theory. Glad you finally put all your thoughts into a comprehensive video or 3. Now I can point at this video when I'm talking to people about the Hammer of the Waters and say, "See, I'm not crazy. He's crazy!"

  • @jesupdaniel2752
    @jesupdaniel2752 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Just finished rereading A Clash of Kings earlier today. RIP Maester Luwin, you were a real one

  • @hircenedaelen
    @hircenedaelen ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Given that the Neck has multiple rivers running through it, in the present day its probably mostly a fresh water bog/marsh. But it's perfectly possible for a flood to have turned the land into a bog, and then for the salt deposited by the flood to gradually be washed out, leaving behind a fresh water bog, with perhaps coastal salt marshes

  • @whatalot6811
    @whatalot6811 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Man this channel is awesome. Only discovered it yesterday, and already watched about 6 hours! Lol
    I love deep dives like these and the thought that goes into them

  • @theladyofthetides
    @theladyofthetides ปีที่แล้ว +39

    i’m new to your content and can i just say, i’m addicted! love your deep dives into the symbolism and mythology of westeros. amazing work!

  • @cantabrian1009
    @cantabrian1009 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hey David, I've been binge watching your back catalogue and thought I'd stop in again and say - your content is absolutely awesome. I've been making notes for potential artworks to create in the near future!

  • @elisebrodeur-jacobs5215
    @elisebrodeur-jacobs5215 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Its David Lightbringer! Drop everything! You look very habdsome and the new studio looks awesome 💯😎 i cant wait for more from my favorite youtuber!

  • @smpk9667
    @smpk9667 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Finally a new video from you! I love your livestreams, but your videos are something special.

  • @AlohaMaesterHand
    @AlohaMaesterHand ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Dude, you're in one Hell of a GRRoove lately with this sweet polished video coming off of those epic livestreams. Thanks, Bud, for all your work!

  • @anorangetabby
    @anorangetabby ปีที่แล้ว +31

    We're not even going to use symbolism....that much....😆
    You are, hands down, the BEST ASOIAF channel on TH-cam. 👏

  • @Midgert89
    @Midgert89 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Symbolism is great. You do capture alot of stuff, especially about the mythology of planetos and GRRMs world building that alot of other content creators miss. You are spot on about this stuff and the Bloodstone emperor. While i reach different conclusions from you as to my idea of where some of the characters are going, your content did broaden my perspective alot. Never change, you fill in an important role and cover alot of theory gaps in this fandom.

  • @xxfaerietalesxx
    @xxfaerietalesxx ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Crannogman in the Neck = Frog in the Throat

  • @DoVisenya
    @DoVisenya ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Love all the editing in this one! Hammer of the Waters is probably in my top 3 theories of yours, beside Moon Meteors and Kingsguard=The Others, it has so much logic in it, in addition to fun symbolic stuff :)

  • @zacharylustberg4589
    @zacharylustberg4589 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What a great topic, hyped for this!

  • @andrzejkopalnia
    @andrzejkopalnia ปีที่แล้ว +2

    By the seven, do I love these videos!

  • @Fathoms09
    @Fathoms09 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    So happy to see this channel gaining more traction. You’re the best, LmL!

  • @danielp.sullivan8417
    @danielp.sullivan8417 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Absolutely adore this sort of content, nice duration, great visuals, great topics, super excited for the OTHERS in the series, much love!

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Thanks Daniel!

    • @wolfsbanealphas617
      @wolfsbanealphas617 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DavidLightbringerwhat if just like the king night their have been multiple hammers of the water 💧

  • @lizardbreathh
    @lizardbreathh ปีที่แล้ว +2

    LML, helpling with my insomnia with wonderful content for like 4 yrs now!

  • @jessbrowning8815
    @jessbrowning8815 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    ❤i love how much you can explain everything in the books! I have been watching you for years and I hope 🤞 that you will continue to grow and keep the channel ❤

  • @amytru
    @amytru ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I enjoyed this so so much. I love the longer in depth videos when you lay out your theories with all the evidence to back them up and explain how you came to the conclusions you have. Your passion for it shines 😊

  • @kadymiddleton6699
    @kadymiddleton6699 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    After 40 minutes I was starting to get worried you wouldn’t bring up the moon meteors haha
    I always love your videos thanks so much for all the work you do to keep ASOIF alive in all our hearts during this long night

  • @jankeck2702
    @jankeck2702 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love the Ocean Motion Portion szene^^

  • @alialmuhanna4938
    @alialmuhanna4938 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh, a new format. I like it. And keep the pun gags coming.

  • @ZendikarMage42750
    @ZendikarMage42750 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I suppose it could be possible for the Weirwoods to shake the earth apart if the trees are just the tops of a mushroom-like organism that extends across Westeros with the majority of it actually living underground. Of course, this would make the hammer even more self-sacrificial for the Children to attempt if that was what caused it

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes this is the one possibility that's wildly different that's out there... And it could make sense,certainly,. It's just that I don't think the clues are pointing that way.

    • @ZendikarMage42750
      @ZendikarMage42750 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DavidLightbringer Definitely agree with you there. I was trying to say that the only way that the Children could feasibly make it work also functions as evidence that it wasn't them who were responsible for the Hammer

  • @kayyoung3187
    @kayyoung3187 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is my dream video from you. So excited to watch! This stuff is so fun to think about.

  • @Bryandan1elson
    @Bryandan1elson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    David, I love these videos so god damn much.

  • @MotherofSocialAnxiety
    @MotherofSocialAnxiety ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the NIN shirt for the Hammer of the Waters vid

  • @namonibblonian
    @namonibblonian ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hammer time!! Great video David, thank you! I love the streams but the refined edited videos are gold, especially the character pop ins with the chat bubbles, love it all! Can’t wait for the Moat Calin vid!
    Side note, you need a Valyrian Steel hammer lol

  • @hemlockehearts
    @hemlockehearts ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your videos and livestreams are just the best! You make me re-examine and look at my favorite series in a whole new light. Fantastic work.

  • @gingercatqueen4368
    @gingercatqueen4368 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love your ASOIAF content so much! Thank you for so many of these deep dives and symbolism. I can’t wait for the next videos!

  • @almab6875
    @almab6875 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yeeeyyyyy!!!! One whole hour if new LML content. Thank you David!!!! We love your videos!!!

  • @LitcheTheArsm
    @LitcheTheArsm ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I was hoping this would help me fall asleep but my consciousness clung to every word you said❤ the Lucifer’s hammer part was🤯🤯 I’ll have to check out something else that I’ve already listened to next so I’m not too hype. Can’t wait for the next vid!!

  • @angery2002
    @angery2002 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love watching your videos. Haven’t been watching them since HOTD came out and you’ve got soooo many for me to go through! I love it.

  • @garthgreenlung420
    @garthgreenlung420 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The quality of your videos continues to improve, thank you for all your hard work!!

  • @Larissa1740pringiers
    @Larissa1740pringiers ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thanks for the shorter video. I understand why the live streams work for you, bit it's difficult for some of us to dedicate that much time.

  • @mommiesaurus
    @mommiesaurus ปีที่แล้ว

    You are one of the VERY few TH-camrs who I watch the ads for.
    Thanks for all your work Lightbringer

  • @CrimsonTemplar2
    @CrimsonTemplar2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was a fantastic intro to mythical astronomy.
    Also, I was totally pulling a Leo by snapping my fingers & pointing at the tv when you said Moon Meteors.

  • @tracymetherell8744
    @tracymetherell8744 ปีที่แล้ว +58

    Please remember to leave a like and a comment to support our favorite ASOIAF content creator!

    • @staytuned2L337
      @staytuned2L337 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I was able to play this full episode at work yesterday when it dropped - and I might have turned on a few eyes and ears ❤

  • @The2012Aceman
    @The2012Aceman ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your passion for these stories shows through in EVERY SINGLE VIDEO. Thank you very much for all you've put in to this. Hope that the rebrand has helped the finances and exposure end a bit.

  • @therunningman_
    @therunningman_ ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Hammer of the Waters is so intriguing, and your exploration was comprehensive and oh so satisfying. Can't wait for more!

  • @Anubiszz512zz
    @Anubiszz512zz ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Big fan of this potential series. Might finally bring some answers to some of my long pondered questions about the watery parts of this story of ice and fire.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  ปีที่แล้ว

      I think so, by the time we get to the Ironborn!

  • @BladesOfCrafting
    @BladesOfCrafting ปีที่แล้ว +2

    DAVID DOESNT MISS

  • @TawbaseFana-ot9vv
    @TawbaseFana-ot9vv ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Yes, yes, yes, waiting for this!

  • @guyincognito3199
    @guyincognito3199 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Exact same lyric leapt into my head as you said it and this is the second time you've music nerded me in as many weeks; I greatly approve!

  • @elliying1116
    @elliying1116 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    34:36 That's peak nostalgia right there. I loved those books when I was little

  • @rosegoldluxx1645
    @rosegoldluxx1645 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another incredibly interesting video! Best asoiaf content on TH-cam 💯💯🤌🏼🤌🏼🤌🏼

  • @MrNoble1997
    @MrNoble1997 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hell yes!!! This is the best kind of content you make, in my opinion. Not that any of it is bad, but these more structured videos just really help to illustrate the connections across Martin's work. From TWOIAF to chapters from the series, and even small details from Fire and Blood and A Knight of the 7 Kingdoms. This is your work at its best. Can't wait for the rest of the series, and hopefully I can catch a stream sometime soon! Keep up the good stuff, David!

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks and I tend to agree, that this is my sweet spot. Trying to pick up the train of thought / approach I began using in the Nightbringer series here. I'm going to go around all the old places and do this basically.

    • @xxfaerietalesxx
      @xxfaerietalesxx ปีที่แล้ว

      agree with your statement and only want to add that it helps my personal ADHD issues when it’s more streamlined! Livestreams,here and in general, are fun and usually loaded with information, but i tune out when there are chat interactions because my brain can’t handle the interruptions. While that is a me problem that i should address and will, for now, this is how i can absorb and retain the most information. I even signed up for patreon to hopefully offset even the smallest (and by smallest i mean $5 SORRY I HAVE DOG FOOD AND WEED TO BUY 😂) monetary loss from not doing a stream.

  • @indig0icee
    @indig0icee ปีที่แล้ว

    Haven’t read this series in over a decade, but I just love listening to lore and theories - thank you so much for the effort you put into these!!

  • @TheBlueWizardOfWestVirginia
    @TheBlueWizardOfWestVirginia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm so thankful to have found your channel. I may comment a lot of deep thoughts on the live streams but I'm actually not finished with the books, I just happen to be well read when it comes to symbolism and ancient legends. I appreciate your attention towards all your subscribers, keep up the greatness. Solve Et Coagula my brother

  • @TheMichaellathrop
    @TheMichaellathrop ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Also the tsunami's happening over decades (long enough to build five more regular castles and one super castle) could represent half a century of major geological instability so maybe not one earthquake but hundreds of them 7 of which were big enough to send tidal flooding all the way to storms end.

    • @jorenvanderark3567
      @jorenvanderark3567 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Wasn't there an earthquake storm during the bronze age collapse? Might be where GRRM drew inspiration from.

  • @pottboy3544
    @pottboy3544 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great video as always ❤❤❤

  • @darkartsbyadrienne
    @darkartsbyadrienne ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This was so good!!! I mean everything here is great! The maps were super cool and corresponding how catastrophic events in our world could have similar effects in GRRM's world. Thank you!

  • @roddammit5510
    @roddammit5510 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm here for it brotha. Long anticipated and kindly received. Much appreciated LML

  • @Smartuur
    @Smartuur ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man I love your symbolism talks! made me look at literature in a completely different way. The whole point is walking the line and see if it all comes together in the end, it's damn fun to lay down all the pieces. Thank you for your content, it really is helping me gather my thoughts and think about something else than life. Keep going!

  • @TuathaTuna
    @TuathaTuna ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Most in-depth ASOIAF TH-camr!

  • @karentargaryen7959
    @karentargaryen7959 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Catching up on some of your videos. It's been a tough 6 months for me, but back to better times. Hammer time!!

  • @bc269
    @bc269 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You are the absolute best!!!! Great Video!!! 🤘

  • @ShelbyOfOldStones
    @ShelbyOfOldStones ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I’m so used to the long livestreams, this felt like a tease. More ASOIAF please ❤

  • @lucashunt4172
    @lucashunt4172 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Well done. Very concise and easy to follow vid combining the lore with your theories and symbolism. Stoked for the deep dive into Moat Cailin. Thank you.

  • @thinkingneuron
    @thinkingneuron ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Great Video Dave! A very quick word on the flora and fauna of the Neck. It seems that George used an amalgam of several different kinds of freshwater wetlands for its atmospheric value. One thing I might point out is that the kind of wetlands created by saltwater (i.e., salt marshes) do not have the same characteristics that George emphasized in his books, like the overall gloominess and treacherousness of the terrain. To me, he is imagining a mixture of two kinds of freshwater wetlands for the Neck: (1) swamps found in the southern states (mainly the wetlands of Louisiana), and (2) the peatlands of Europe. I am not very knowledgeable of the mythical stories surrounding swamplands in the indigenous cultures of the Americas, but in pre-modern Europe, boglands were almost always associated with something nefarious and sinister, and even as places of ritual sacrifices in ancient times. This fits very well with the story woven into the region as you also are exploring in detail.
    However, this does not negate your theory of a catastrophic event occurring concurrently across vast distances. George was probably not paying that much of an attention on the ecological and geological accuracy of the whole thing. 😊 Or, it could very well be the case that the same catastrophe that affected the arm of Dorne might have increased the freshwater tables in the Neck through aquifers and underwater caves, inundating the landscape.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  ปีที่แล้ว

      Ah okay thank you so much for your perspective!

  • @WeesanTV
    @WeesanTV ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely tremendous. Succinct yet detailed and informative yet familiar. Your love for the world of ASOIAF songs through yet again. Looking forward to the rest of the series!

  • @twiss9341
    @twiss9341 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks again for the content.

  • @LuciferChapel1987
    @LuciferChapel1987 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for posting, I've longed for a video series of this nature!
    I'm definitely with you in your assessments here, David :)

  • @scoutobrien3406
    @scoutobrien3406 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Native americans are surely *an* *influence* for the children because its so recent, important, and well documented, but with his focus on British history for Westeros there are several much more direct examples.
    For instance the arguments over whether the southern Doggerland land bridge connecting Britain to Europe was somehow *sunk* or just dissapeared to sealevel rise/if an icebridge existed afterward, and whether the Bronze Age Beaker culture was a sudden development from trade influence or, with the speed and disappearance of earlier cultural hallmarks, was an invasion/migration that replaced the earlier neolithic stone tool culture.
    And then you have the blackstone outposts in old town and storms end that line up with Roman archeological presence followed by a new invasion of better equipped and more homogenous outsiders from essos, the Andals, who the First Men fought desperately and slowly either surrendered to or married with except for the North.
    Which is a pretty great parallel to the AngloSaxon invasions that gave us Arthurian legend and the stories of firstmen *knights before there were knights* and a holdout "firstmen" culture in the north past the Neck.
    Im SURE that native americans influenced some of GRRM's visualizations of concepts, but British history already lines up really well with Westerosi history right down to mythological explanations that fit speculative academics.
    There are other big overlaps with more sweeping mass migration events in western history and parallels outside that cultural lens, the point is mainly that its probably not intended to be an at all specific Native American allegory, and it would be kind of a clumsy one if it was.

  • @prey556
    @prey556 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    the nine inch nails knights of ni shirt you wore in this vid has to be the best shirt you've worn on this channel.

  • @mercedescreates
    @mercedescreates ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video!

  • @austinmorrison4827
    @austinmorrison4827 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Been waiting to watch this video for at least a week, excited to start!

  • @AltSchwiftSiberia
    @AltSchwiftSiberia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Heck yeah, David. I'm excited to watch it when I have time!

  • @Cookie_chris
    @Cookie_chris ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hell yeah MEGA-HYPED for this, also thank you david and maynard plum for the recent uploads to spotify, will be devouring them tonight on my 12hr night shift
    Praise garth

  • @Triton-54
    @Triton-54 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Never pass on the opportunity for some 90’s nostalgia.

  • @yildizofyiti7628
    @yildizofyiti7628 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This was great, I'm really hyped now for the next videos!

  • @nickycha8428
    @nickycha8428 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is fantastic! I learn so much from you. Keep it coming. Thank you for all your amazing content!

  • @ToothlessWizard
    @ToothlessWizard ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you David. Another fantastic video. :)
    Awesome new set-up by the way!

  • @pieceofgosa
    @pieceofgosa ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I realised something recently about Planetos that had never occurred to me before. If the Long Night was what we assume it to be (a global winter lasting generations) it would have had a severe impact on global sea levels, dropping them significantly. When the Long Night ended & the ice at the poles began to thaw, the sea levels would have risen again causing extreme flooding events in low lying areas. I have no grand theory attached to this btw, it's just a factor I don't think I've ever heard someone talk about before.

    • @DavidLightbringer
      @DavidLightbringer  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I think I've touched on it once or twice but probably not enough. You're absolutely right

  • @conniesuper9892
    @conniesuper9892 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Always love your videos!Great job,as ever!

  • @zblackcapricorn
    @zblackcapricorn ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I share your love for Moat Cailin. It's such an interesting place I feel we know little of. And it's such a cool concept to have these massive ruined towers guarding the southern border of the north.

  • @travisthesutherland
    @travisthesutherland ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Best video yet.

  • @leilaorton
    @leilaorton ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m always fascinated by the the fall of the long night/hammer of the waters being one gigantic cataclysm caused by an evil act of blood magic. Sorry I’m behind on videos, slowly catching up! Keep up the amazing work! Can’t wait for the moat cailin (sp?)stuff!

  • @WhoIsCalli
    @WhoIsCalli ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Was audible laughing, with agreement, when you were making your Robert points. Brilliant vid!

  • @johnnycamine
    @johnnycamine ปีที่แล้ว +1

    your videos are my favorite on youtube. love your work and thank you for what you do

  • @Airehcaz
    @Airehcaz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love your videos! This channel is so different and refreshing, compared to most other ASOIAF-related content producers

  • @JM.....
    @JM..... ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Oh its good to be back

  • @jancecharlesaustin3733
    @jancecharlesaustin3733 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are my favorite TH-cam nerd, hands down. Thanks for all your hard work, dood. You're the coolest.

  • @SvenDzahov
    @SvenDzahov ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your production value skyrocketed.

  • @rhettdw144
    @rhettdw144 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    David Lightbringer banger incoming 🔥🔥

  • @lavender__luna
    @lavender__luna ปีที่แล้ว +3

    LML, you are a cut above the rest, truly 💜💜💜