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How to wake stone dragons: kill your lover (Nissa Nissa, Drogo, Eurons girl?), sacrifice priest/mage (MMD, Aeron), dead unborn child (Rhaego, Euron's child) Euron is going to resurrect an undead dragon that is under the sea in Oldtown (base of the hightower is Valyrian construction and its called "Battle Isle" for a reason) It's really likely that this is what Egg wanted to do at Summerhall and was foiled by Dunk and what Aerys was also trying to fulfill. Interestingly Melisandre could also fulfill these requirements all by herself for Stannis (or i guess jon )
You've got it! Bronsterys has a theory that Nissa Nissa was pregnany when she was killed. Lots of textual hints in parallel characters. If the amethyst empress was NN then she would have been the embodiment of all three elements as well great observation!
@Lachelle Lewis does she now guess you spoke to george about ? cause their is no confirmation anywhere, and may stone has already been used as a red herring once before when catlyn thought she was lyssas bastard
Another great theory! I never made the connection that "king's blood" comes from the prophecy! I thought of mirri maz duur as 'just' a sacrifice but her innate magic and priesthood being the catalyst makes a lot of sense. As priests/godkings were imporant figures, sacrificing them would be a costly price to pay for powerful magic. I want to propose a thought to you: could Nissa Nissa have been a priestess and that is what made lightbringer so powerful? First came the creation of the sword, possible taken from a meteor. Then he tried to strenghten it through magic. When a 'regular' blood sacrifice (represented by the lion) wasn't enough, he tried again with holy blood to create a stronger magic. If you think of it like that, it parallels the bloodstone emperor killing his sister, a godqueen. What might have been a necessary sacrifice back then could be viewed as atrocious by a society that sees kinslaying as a sin, twisting him into a bad guy. Therefore the bloodstone emperor might have been azor ahai, who sacrificed his sister to create a magic sword through her holy blood and defeat the others. This is a thought i got while watching your video, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this
Well hey there! Yes, i am in agreement that NN probably had some sort of connection to the higher powers. Ive discussed the NN monomyth in my video on the grey king's mermaid wife and it appears she did have magical abilities. Specifically i believe she had the ability to resurrect similar to the kiss of life/last kiss ritual. There are some possibilities she was half cotf as well. Great thoughts there!
@@TheDisputedLands interestingly that was the video i was going to watch before the notification for this one popped up :D I've been working my way through your iron born series now that i have some more freetime
Lots of people have speculated that Jon or Dany might be Azor Ahai, but it seems quite clear that if it's anyone, it's Euron. Given that the original Azor Ahai supposedly murdered his own wife, we shouldn't assume that Azor Ahai was some morally upstanding character and might have been just as evil as Euron, and just became whitewashed by history.
@@counterspellgoon6854 "whitewashed" refers to the process of painting white onto a fence you idiot. Its meant to refer to putting temporary, cheap, and shallow coating upon something.
Is killing your wife, whose consent in the deed is unknown, in order to save the whole world the same as just murdering her through hate, jealousy, revenge?
Why? Mel is old and set in her ways. She arbitrarily interprets shapes in the fire. Euron has warlocks in his thrall, drinks their shade, and has real knowledge
The Disputed Lands Oh, I wasn't being sarcastic if that's how it came across. I was just doing a Chad Summerchild impression. It's a character from Preston Jacobs' videos who talks like a stereotypical dude bro. Thought Chad up there might get a chuckle out of it.
Should also point out that among those Euron is intending to sacrifice is a woman carrying his child, and as he is annointed king of the Iron Islands, the unborn child has king’s blood.
Another interesting thing about the kings in Westeros is that many ancient kings before aegon conquests or even before where first men's families descendant of Garth Greenhand or people really close to the weirwoods
Its probably some kind of genetic thing, what we know as magic in asoiaf. Thats probably why the Targs and Valyrians porked their sisters. Also would explain why the Baratheon's have magic blood. They ARE descended from the Targs after all.
Great call on the priest's blood being what the prophecy called for. GRRM is a master of subtext, saying half of the sentence and showing the other half.
My theory is that Melisandre simply misheard or misread the keyword. Power is not in kinGs blood but the power is in kinS blood. This is not a secret since it was the basis of the Targaryen's source of power… incest=kinS blood Dany’s parents were brother and sister, kinS blood. She was able to hatch three dragon eggs. The ritual included a priestess, a human sacrifice, singing\wailing and encircled and consumed by fire. In fact, in the show we have already seen someone wake a dragon from the stone... he just did not realize what he had done, because he knows nothing. He resurrected a dead dragon from stone/ice. The ritual included a priest, a human sacrifice, singing\wailing and encircled and consumed by ice. Jon Snow has kinS blood. B+L=J It's been staring us in the face all along. He even looks more Stark than the Stark children. He bonded to a dire wolf. He doesn't have one trait of a Targaryen. This is what Syrio Forell meant by "see with your eyes" and ignore the fantasies. Everyone is so desperate to make these prophecies "fit" that they are ignoring the truth in front of their eyes. As for the visions, the 3 Eyed Crow shows Bran, as old Nan says "All crows are liars." Even the mention of the so-called "marriage" between Lyanna and Rhaegar was a sentence at the bottom of a page that could have been inserted at any time. Also, it was in a diary where the maestre kept a record of his bowel movements. That is GRRM cheekily telling us that this diary was full of 💩 So yeah B is Benjen, the first person in the show to talk to Jon about fatherhood. It would also explain why Ned sent Benjen to the wall instead of making him his bannerman and then sending Benjen's son to the same fate. Lastly, GRRM reinforces the difference between kin and king when he repeatedly uses kiN slaying and kinG slaying.
I really vibe with the theory that Azor Ahai and the Prince that was Promised are different. With that theory, the bloodstone emperor was the first azor ahai and started the long night. And the prince that was promised or the last hero was the one that ended it. I think Euron is azor ahai and will wake dragons from stone with a massive blood sacrifice. I think Jon is the prince that was promised because he is kings blood that was sacrificed to wake a dragon, meaning himself. I think the Jon that comes back will be a lot more Targaryen like. And this checks out because the targaryens were considered to be gods when they first came and had dragons. I suppose dany could be the same, but i think Jon will be it if he is resurrected.
Hey there! You are not alone, in my next video we are going to explore both prophecies! Believe it or not, you are closer to what i will be discussing than you think. Great thoughts there! Thanks for commenting.
This is good! I didnt think to separate "azor ahai" and "prince that was promised" like that. This would be another way that Mel has interpreted her own religious beliefs incorrectly wow!
Kris B Thanks! I think it also fits with the theory that the Great Empire of the Dawn (the forebears of the Yi Ti people) were dragon riders and that they were the people that taught the Valyrians dragon riding and that their capital was Asshai. Because with that theory it’s very likely that the bloodstone emperor and his sister were married in Valyrian style and that the blood betrayal was him killing his sister wife (nissa nissa). And because nissa nissa was considered to be a god at that time, he used that as a sacrifice for some ritual. I think this makes sense because of how I think magic works in the series. Varys said it best: “Power resides where people think it resides.” The sacrifice of a god king is powerful because people believe god kings to be powerful. The sacrifice of a king is less powerful because they aren’t considered to be as powerful. That’s why magic is stronger when there are dragons. Because dragons are living proof of magic that no one can refute. That’s why people think that Jon or dany will be azor ahai/prince that was promised. Because of their Valyrian heritage, they are believed to be above everyone else. Jon even more so because he came back from death. That’s just my thoughts.
I am really curious about what kind of dragon euron is going to wake! Wtf is he doing? I have no clue what his end game is, I just hope he brings the apocalypse on the very top of the Hightower.
You researched "King's blood." However, "Kingsblood" is mentioned in Dany's first chapter as her genetic inheritance from the conquerors / old Valyria. I discuss it on my vid/essays on Kingsblood. I would love to discuss more with you so that we might look into it further, maybe collaborate. The word I use is also discussed in Jon's last 2 chapters and in one other chapter of Davos's. Only the Davos chapter is more directly related to what you are discussing here.
So, when im talking about king's blood in the video im talking about the sacrifical king's blood. There are for sure other times when a king is slain or someone mentioning being descended from kings within the series. I mean, fire and blood is full of dead kings, we have aerys, robert baratheon, robb stark, balon greyjoy and these are just the predominent ones. However, none of these deaths any magical aspect to them. What i had to do was find the context for the magical and sacrificial mentions in order to understand why melisandre would need this type of a sacrifice.
Im not currently doing collabs atm, im just getting back into the swing of things (i just started making videos a week ago) but thank you for the invitation!
@@TheDisputedLands Yes, to be sure, my focus is on the magical potential, or lack thereof, in the living person than whatever small or large magic can be brought about by their death. Incidentally, my concept of kingsblood might tie together your concepts of holy blood and King's blood. anyone with "the gift" as varamyr calls it, can reach out with their mind. When holy people do this it is called praying. That is why Euron is asking Aeron to pray IMO, to waken the gift within him, to connect him to the krakens, just as the starks are connected to the direwolves and the Dany to her dragons.
This was a well thought out and created video. I enjoy these videos digging into the minutae of asoiaf, looking at areas away from some of the larger lingering issues at play in the universe. I take material like this from you for however periodically they may come.
If the books follow the show in having Cersei destroy the Sept of Baelor with the High Sparrow (who is now the high septon, and the rest of the septons, septas, and faith militant inside, she could be on track to be Azor Ahai reborn as well.
I think blood in this context means gens. In asoiaf they talk of bloodlines and that relatives are of the same blood. What is needed to wake dragons from stone? Special gens. Targaryen gens. They probably are descendants from the Royal family of The Great Empire of the Dawn. They are probably "the kingly ghosts" in Danys wake the Dragon dream. And what does bloodmagic mean? Probably genetic engineering. We know the Valyrians did that and probably The Bloodstone Emperor before them.
@@sabrinakrisb4672 The people of westeros don't know about gens so they call it King's blood or holy blood. Crawfoods daughter and Lucifer means Lightbringer have theorized that dragons are a genetically engineered and the Targaryen share some DNA with the dragons. It is probably why they practice incest. There is most likely a skinchancher gene as well, in Stark and other houses...
@@jonhauge-evaldsson783 Yeah I agree with that but I think ultimately more people have Targ blood and potentially even more ancient Valyrian blood than many people realize. Daynes most likely have Valyrian blood so a lot of Northerners in general most likely do too. So a lot of people have kings blood, to the point that it raises the question of why obsess over purity? It's a pointless game. George has said in interviews obsession over blood lineage is pointless because everyone is a mix of many things. I personally buy the theory that Dany has blood of old Valeria via the Dayne lineage.
I think that preist that had burned hands and no eyes, was a faceless man, and his appearence is a foreshadowing of what will happen to arya when she tries to keave the faceless man.
First loved the video , I'll definitely be checking out more! I'm also wondering about how far a descendant of a King it's still considarate king's blood, that's because a lot of the great houses have either been royal houses themselves in the past, or are connected to one. Although there's no mention of kings blood in Alester Florent's sacrifice, it is mentioned that it was "in order to obtain favorable winds for their expeditionIn". Could have Melissandre sacrificed Lord Alester Florent to fool Stannis into believing in the power of king's blood? House Florent is the most senior descendant of house Gardener and are the legitimate heirs to the extinct Kingdom of the Reach. If king's blood is applied that way it would be too easy, Robert himself had 16 bastards, almost all the main characters are descendant of a King. After wathcing the video I think that the theory about holy blood is much more likely than the king's blood.
Spot on Amanda , excellent vid as always , look forward to you easing back into creating more content again. As usual I do agree with you here , the actual concept of king's blood in the traditional sense seems a flawed mess ; when we factor in usurpation , succession crises / issues , unexpected deaths , ntm the sheer amount of petty kings all over Westeros and the entire world at one point. The political power / governance / ruling aspect and designation with king's blood just does not make sense to me with magical ritual given how being considered royal or not , succession processes and the path to the throne can change over one's life or generations etc. Amanda your explanation makes much more sense to me and is close to a long held belief i have had that you have explained much better than I ever could. As we know magic is real and exists in GRRM's ASoIaF universe and the religions therein mostly seem originated from & centered around types of magic either closely connected to them currently or at least were at some point in their past (as is likely the case with the Faith of the Seven). The religions seem a vehicle to explain and reconcile those various types of magic imo. In that respect the magical and / or religious blood makes much more sense to be coveted and useful in ritual(s). It is also possible the "king's blood" concept came from that fact these ancient legendary kings & rulers were likely magical people / practitioners ; these kings of legend from all over the world likely embodied and practiced some form of magic (likely specific to where they existed and ruled from) which set them apart , gave them an edge to seize power and would be a reason why the masses in a given area would rally around them. That could be the nexus point with the "king's blood" concept and where the origin of the term likely came from in that the "kings" / rulers themselves were actually magical people be it the Gemstone Emperors (likely original blood of the dragon) , warg kings, green-seer kings , water magic kings / rulers and beyond etc. In the end the magical blood seems to be what is needed ; the "king's blood" concept has some connection to royal / political power to an extent as they were actual kings / rulers but more specifically stems from needing magical blood which those legendary kings / rulers had. Well done here as usual Amanda , your content is always top notch.
The Disputed Lands this vid was fantastic as is all your content, look forward to hopefully seeing more vids from you in the near future. Idk how I missed this when it came out some days ago , I have long been subbed to your channel with notifications turned on but we all know TH-cam can routinely mess up. Glad even though I did not get notified that I came upon this vid , someone brought up during today’s IDG impromptu livestream that you came out with a couple new vids so I had to check them out. Great job with this vid , whenever you release content it is always excellent.
As complete as this theory is, there is something very obvious that was not mentioned in this video; DRAGON BLOOD. Targaryens are famed for breeding brother to sister, and this is a concept Cersei even dives deep on for obvious reasons. But what is missing from that is WHY Targaryens do this; because something magical IN their blood BINDS them to dragons. OLD VALERYA is supposed to have been very big into sorcery, and blood magic is involved in becoming a dragon lord. The reason they wed within their own family is to prevent diluting the potency of the magic in their blood. In Westeros, KINGS are primarily Targaryen in lineage, and even the houses that do not claim this, usually have some small measure of Targaryen blood. Stanis for example, his grandmother or great grandmother or something was from the blood line of the Targaryens. In a world where you can’t get it PURE very easily, there ARE a crap ton of bastard ones out there. So if you can’t get the magic full strength directly from a Targaryen, you CAN get it from a bastard decendent. Or even a diluted legitimized decendent (stanis, etc) “HOLY” as the Euron portions mention, neglects to look at the BLOOD MAGIC that would make one “holy” enough to be considered magically bound to a dragon. And in the Mary Mazdur section, yes Khal Drogo and Mary Mazdur sacrificed in that ritual are king and holy alike, but ALSO sacrificed in that moment is also DANYS SON, which is DRAGON BLOOD. Just a piece that seemed to be a weir oversight in a video this deep into the lore.
I always assumed there was power in king's blood because people believe there is. In this world, ppl revere kings and holy men. Therefore it has magical potency. I think magic is fueled by the collective beliefs of the ppl of planetos. Thus, dragons return, ppl believe they fuel magic, and thus magic grows in power.
The real history has a lot to add to this prophecy too. My own religious lore too. Jathaka stories tell stories of previous lives of lord Buddha, when he was ‘the Sakvithi king’, the king who can rule the world, the king blessed by the gods upon his birth, the king who would rule the world just. Such a king was to worshipped with a funeral pyre with the highest respect; so much to be equivalent of funerals of Buddha and Monks who had achieved Nirvana.
In the Dany's pyre which awoke the dragons there were sacrifices of khal Drogo, priestess Mirri and Dany's son. Not sure if her son counts as he was already dead. As you mentioned that the ancient kings were also priests or "gods', perhaps for the sacrifice to work its magic ways, holy blood is required, yes, but perhaps the king's blood also, as they together form the "god king" blood.
Maybe for the magic bond to solidify, your own blood is needed also and that may be the purpose of Dany's son. King's blood, holy blood and the person's blood.
I was just rereading a feast for crows and when samwell is talking about switching the babies and how “monster” is just a random baby born of incest so if he’s sacrificed it won’t do or mean anything I was thinking, back when we meet craster he is very adamant about him being a “godly man” and if the “blood of kings” is actually “holy/godly blood” then isn’t there a chance monster will be sacrificed and it will work better then it would if they sacrificed mance’s baby who only has “kings blood” because mance was named king beyond the wall? There could be lots of holes in this theory that I’m not aware of I don’t know nearly as much about ASOIAF as many of you theorists. But I was just thinking, craster is very certain he is a “godly man” and even mormont says he is but that he “serves crueler gods then you or I.” So his children by all means could have some of the “holiest” blood in all of planetos thus why the others want his babies and thus why he needs them to be born of incest to keep the “holy blood” pure.
@@anne-kathrinhohlig1466 I don't see why that would be, but I suppose it is possible. There's no bridge in the text between Kingsblood and kinslaying, save for what @The Disputed Lands has posted here. FWIW I have posted my second Kingsblood video, dealing with some related material.
I dont think there's any real power in Kings Blood beyond the fact that power resides where men believe it resides. People have faith in Kings and that gives them power.
A year too late but it could be Valyrian blood that’s needed. There’s something about the Valyrian word for “dragon” and “prince “ bring similar enough for Mel to confuse the two. The fact that Targaryen blood has booth might be relevant
@@scientistx5717 George has literally said bloodline purity isn't the point of his books. The idea of the blood itself holding magical power is an illusion. idc about what some fanfic says.
@@sabrinakrisb4672 purity or not bro genetics still hold even george said it has some relation at least More magic alleles you lose less magic you have You can't tell me valyrians,first men and rhoynar don't have magic in their blood??
@@scientistx5717 I'm not saying genetics have zero effect on human life, of course they do. The point is that genetics isnt the only thing that matters and "bloodline purity" doesn't exist. Chasing bloodlines is an ultimately pointless venture. Sooooo many people have Targ and general Valyrian ancestry in some way now. They intermarried and had a lot of bastards. Even if other houses didn't have access to dragons, they often still have some kind of warging abilities e.g. Starks. At some point chasing the idea of bloodlines doesn't matter anymore. All the bloodline stuff in the books is a distraction.
I always thought that the old kings were not of this world and actually had a different genetic make up than us. Pharaohs breeding with sisters like targaryens to keep the blood pure - maybe they’re trying not to delude alien / actual DRAGON genes? Maybe that’s the case here?
What a wonderful query. The book evidence as your reference not only gives legitimacy to these statements but serves as proof to your genius. Crowfoods daughter when you hit you hit hard👍😉💪👊
The biggest question for me isn’t why It has power but what it is. Is it just that royal blood is magical blood, so all magical blood is King’s blood? Or, is that the belief and power people have in a king gives his blood power? Or is it a leader of men willingly sacrificing themselves? All three cases are true always.
I think the Azor Ahai prophecy and the Prince that was Promised prophecy are one in the same. AAR is pretty clearly Daenarys, as she is the only character to literally wake living dragons from stone, as her eggs are said to have fossilized into stone, and this is the only time we see king's blood working some supernatural feat. While Dany is the literal AAR, it is possible that Jon Snow is a metaphorical AAR figure as well. If you belive R+L=J, then Jon has king's blood.
The King is the Price, and not the Consumer. It is not for him to purchase but to be purchased. Not to be served but to serve. Not to spill blood but to have his own blood be spilled in the place of others.
What are your thoughts on the Long Night timeline actually being 5,000 years ago rather than 8,000-10,000? If that's the case, the Azor Ahai prophecy may not even be a prophesy--but documentation of the original person. Also, if holy blood is the real king's blood, what do you make of the fact that the Dothraki seem to have collected them as well? Also, it's my belief that much of Dorne is based on Dune. As such....who would be The God Emperor of Dorne... Okay, I'll stop. Edit: you know what? The sandworms of Dune have armored bodies and represent fire (part of the biological process of making spice) also... Wonder if that means anything. One last thing (I swear): Daenerys' Dragon hatching was viewed as a religious experience by the Dothraki. Does that make her a king? I think it does.
Yes, that does make her a king in a sense, the dothraki follow strength and they viewed it as a miracle that she could survive the fire and bring dragons into the world, but according to dothraki tradition a king is referred to as a khal, dany is considered the equivalent of a khal by her dothraki followers after the miraculous event and retains the epithet of khaleesi.
If Danerys didnt already obviously fulfill this piece of the prophecy, I hc Jon is the stone dragon that must be awoken with king's blood. He's a Targaryen/Valyrian AKA "Dragon" and, well, dead at this point. All signs are pointing to his resurrection, also. He's also likely another "head" to the 3-headed-dragon in the prophecy, etc. It's just all very intertwined.
I think she misinterpreted the Prophecy and that the prophecy might have actually been describing Dany hatching the Dragon eggs after Khal Drogo was sacrificed by Miri in her ritual
Every time we as a fandom discuss Azor Ahai-the Promised Prince prophecy, I can't help but think it 100% is Dany. There's just-too much subtext for it not to be her, and Martin has always been a staunch critic of changing the plotline because something became obvious to the reader. Here's some points *I personally think* lend credibility to Dany being the Azor Ahai: > She's born in Dragonstone (amidst salt and smoke, yada yada yada. Also, from it being during a storm, there would be no sun, stars or moon during that particular day, which also happened during the Long Night-that utter, almost unnatural darkness. If y'all ever witnessed a tropical monsoon, you know what I'm talking about) > Daenerys killed her love (Drogo) by her own hand. He was in a vegetative state, half dead, half alive, brought back by black magic, but then again, we didn't get the specifics about Nissa Nissa. > Had the sacrifice of king's blood (her own son, Rhaego, who was the Targaryen heir by all intends and purposes, SPECIALLY after Drogo promises to take back the Iron Throne for his wife. It wasn't a direct thing, but when she killed Mirri Maz Duur maybe Rhaego's "life force" or whatever, taken by her to bring back Drogo, was transferred to the eggs, thus fulfilling that bit of the ritual by accident) > Woke literal dragons out of stone eggs (no other character came CLOSE to it in a more tangible way, and I don't think the prophecy meant stone dragons poetically) She's the Unburnt, reborn from a pire that SHOULD have killed her (which by Martin's admission was a freak phenomenom-that sounds like a one in a thousand years prophecy, doesn't it?). Aegon united the Seven Kingdoms after a dragondream of his, and Rhaegar, in his arrogance, thought he was the Prince Who Was Promised after another one of those; would make sense that the last remaning Targaryen (completely ignoring maester Aemon and the Dragonseeds, I know!) would carry that prophecy to fruition. She's fire, a nepobaby idealist whose justice seems to be, at times, selective (read: Maquiavel had a point. Daenerys is a monarch and monarchs tend to have either loose morals or a loose political hold over their realm)-the very opposition to ice and death; the last of which is, somewhat, more realistic and democratic as it gets to all eventually and in equal measure, be them baseborn, slaves or noblemen. All men must die, tomato tomato. You get the gist. Edit: Also! If we consider this Empire of Dawn to Dragonlords of Valyria to Targaryen pipeline, that would mean House Targaryen has literal divine blood, and so, to a lesser extent, does House Baratheon. That would explain why Robert's blood was "king's blood" even though he was an usurper. I personally don't believe magic cares much about gentry disposition as much as it cares about literal bloodline properties, to be honest.
Edit²: my bets are Jon will be the new consort to the Night Queen, but will turn on her at the last moment to save the world. He will thus help Daenerys and take his place as the third dragon head, alongside Blackfyre Aegon and their aunt. Like genderbend!Conquerors. Maybe the Night Queen and the Maid Made Of Light are also the same entity. Galadriel sorta thing. She's that terrible force whose knowledge is so great and nature so inhuman she is monstrous to all weaker creatures who are unable to understand the meaning of her ways. Aaaaaand Bran... Bran's been the narrator all along, as the three eyed raven. That one is a wild guess based off the funny voices inside my head, but I'd be so cool if it was true lol
I wonder how Viserys (II) ties in with his incessant ominous warnings about that Daenerys (II) needs to be thankful Viserys was apparently unaware of how to wake said dragons. Being sold to Drogo ironically protected her.
Dany was of King's blood and woke three stone dragons from their petrified eggs. But khal Drogo was also a King and his son Rhaego's blood boiled away and three eggs were able to hatch in the process
I agree that Melisandre saw the other King's deaths in her flames, but what if it's only because of the leaches that the deaths happened? Do you understand what I mean? Like with Renly, she saw either 2 or 3 outcomes, but they can't all be right. What if, if she never did the leaches, then the other Kings didn't die? But because she did, then they did die. Not saying it's right, just saying
@@TheDisputedLands why choose the moniker of Crowfood's Daughter over a all the other aliases out there in ASOIAF? Or rather, what's the story for choosing the alias Crowfood's Daughter for yourself and channel?
@@ursaber i chose this name because she is an abducted woman and i appreciate the theme of the abducted woman within the series. She is also a character without a name, we just know her as crowfood's daughter. So it is a very obscure reference, i like that🙂.
The ancient sumerian notion of kinghood is based on the sacred marriage, a tradition that passed down millennia. The king would ritually marry the highest goddess, closely linked with the powers of the sun. Failure to keep the goddess happy would result in disasters such as famines, and require the sacrifice of the king himself. A new king would then marry the goddess. God-kings is a perversion of this relationship, which wasn't tenable to kings that became extremely powerful. Then look at the cult of egyptian goddess Isis. Mock sacrifices, induced near death experiences to enter into the afterlife to gain sacred relationship with her, awakening from the afterlife to return was the sign. Tacticus the Roman historican that wrote on the various Germanic tribes described them as 'worshipping Isis" i.e some goddess with the same powers or role. They would practice human sacrifice to a high degree. Later norse mythology provides a story which gives context to how ritual sacrifice would work. In Hyndlaljod, a man sacrifice a boar, his soul melting together with the boars, then being ridden into the afterlife by Freya. Long story short, sacred marriage, gaining powerful mythological knowledge and the gift of rememberance and return to the living. Sacrifices and mock sacrifices was a essential initiation to kingship. And at least one swedish king was sacrificed to fix repeated crop failures. Now, not all of this has influenced something in ASOIAF. But I can see some elements. Might be something to look into? I think your way of seeing religions comparatively is bringing out fantastic richness to grrm's mythology.
Sarella/Alleras ....might be the third head because of his/her sphynx status. Or Bran will ski change the third dragon. He's definitely a sphynx. Made up of many things behind the face of a man.
Until Robert's rebellion all kings blood in westeros was targaryen blood. The blood of the dragon,wakes dragons from stone! At least that how I interpreted it. Obviously in the past targaryens were able to hatch dragons before.
Well hey there! There are no plans for collabs with anyone atm, but thank you for inquiring! In general i am open to collabing with anyone who doesnt think my ideas are silly. I have corresponded recently with one of the mentioned creators but i am more focused on maintaining boundaries for myself and getting back into the swing of writing videos again. Im not sure if you were aware but i just came back from a year long break just last week😆. Thanks for watching and i appreciate your asking.
@@TheDisputedLands Sorry it's just that LML recently had a discussion where he specifically talked about your theories of Valyrians being genetic experiments and how you discovered the Lizard Men etc. That's what got me here
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Humans fulfilling prophecies rather than prophesies being fulfilled is a reoccurring theme and useful for theories. Great summary!
How to wake stone dragons: kill your lover (Nissa Nissa, Drogo, Eurons girl?), sacrifice priest/mage (MMD, Aeron), dead unborn child (Rhaego, Euron's child)
Euron is going to resurrect an undead dragon that is under the sea in Oldtown (base of the hightower is Valyrian construction and its called "Battle Isle" for a reason)
It's really likely that this is what Egg wanted to do at Summerhall and was foiled by Dunk and what Aerys was also trying to fulfill. Interestingly Melisandre could also fulfill these requirements all by herself for Stannis (or i guess jon )
You've got it! Bronsterys has a theory that Nissa Nissa was pregnany when she was killed. Lots of textual hints in parallel characters. If the amethyst empress was NN then she would have been the embodiment of all three elements as well great observation!
I think you are the smartest and most knowledgeable within the fandom.
Dragons waking from stone: Mya's going to ride Sheepstealer after feeding her with her mules.
@Lachelle Lewis does she now guess you spoke to george about ? cause their is no confirmation anywhere, and may stone has already been used as a red herring once before when catlyn thought she was lyssas bastard
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Another great theory! I never made the connection that "king's blood" comes from the prophecy! I thought of mirri maz duur as 'just' a sacrifice but her innate magic and priesthood being the catalyst makes a lot of sense. As priests/godkings were imporant figures, sacrificing them would be a costly price to pay for powerful magic.
I want to propose a thought to you: could Nissa Nissa have been a priestess and that is what made lightbringer so powerful? First came the creation of the sword, possible taken from a meteor. Then he tried to strenghten it through magic. When a 'regular' blood sacrifice (represented by the lion) wasn't enough, he tried again with holy blood to create a stronger magic. If you think of it like that, it parallels the bloodstone emperor killing his sister, a godqueen. What might have been a necessary sacrifice back then could be viewed as atrocious by a society that sees kinslaying as a sin, twisting him into a bad guy. Therefore the bloodstone emperor might have been azor ahai, who sacrificed his sister to create a magic sword through her holy blood and defeat the others. This is a thought i got while watching your video, I'd love to hear your thoughts on this
Well hey there! Yes, i am in agreement that NN probably had some sort of connection to the higher powers. Ive discussed the NN monomyth in my video on the grey king's mermaid wife and it appears she did have magical abilities. Specifically i believe she had the ability to resurrect similar to the kiss of life/last kiss ritual. There are some possibilities she was half cotf as well. Great thoughts there!
@@TheDisputedLands interestingly that was the video i was going to watch before the notification for this one popped up :D I've been working my way through your iron born series now that i have some more freetime
I think Nyssa Nyssa is a Weirwood goddess. Possibly Nyssa Nyssa is just the Wierwood hivemind itself? A more literal "mother nature"?
Lots of people have speculated that Jon or Dany might be Azor Ahai, but it seems quite clear that if it's anyone, it's Euron.
Given that the original Azor Ahai supposedly murdered his own wife, we shouldn't assume that Azor Ahai was some morally upstanding character and might have been just as evil as Euron, and just became whitewashed by history.
D. Bergkvist muddled through history...not some racist name like whitewashed
@@counterspellgoon6854 funny.
Sometimes I wonder if Euron is the same person as Daario, that's part of why he'll have some kind of sway over Dany
@@counterspellgoon6854 "whitewashed" refers to the process of painting white onto a fence you idiot. Its meant to refer to putting temporary, cheap, and shallow coating upon something.
Is killing your wife, whose consent in the deed is unknown, in order to save the whole world the same as just murdering her through hate, jealousy, revenge?
It deeply disturbs me that Euron is smarter than Mel.
Why? Mel is old and set in her ways. She arbitrarily interprets shapes in the fire. Euron has warlocks in his thrall, drinks their shade, and has real knowledge
she's smart, but single minded. something like rhaegar
It's what happens when you're brainwashed by faith and unwilling to see differently.
*quickly runs to weirwood throne, and pours a cup of shade to watch the video
dun dun, da da, dun dun...
That's, like, such an awesome comment, bro. Dude that was so awesome! Haha, yeah bro!
@@theletterm5425 i thought it was the best comment. It's referencing the first video i published on my channel. 👍
The Disputed Lands Oh, I wasn't being sarcastic if that's how it came across. I was just doing a Chad Summerchild impression. It's a character from Preston Jacobs' videos who talks like a stereotypical dude bro. Thought Chad up there might get a chuckle out of it.
@@theletterm5425 We are lost in translation! Well, at least i am!🤣
"How life was back Thenn"
So Euron has holy blood too since he’s toting around his priestly brother. Scary. Euron is a true psychopath.
I hope that your return is a sign that the next book is on the horizon. Great video.
that didn’t age well
Should also point out that among those Euron is intending to sacrifice is a woman carrying his child, and as he is annointed king of the Iron Islands, the unborn child has king’s blood.
A new (for me) ASoIaF theory channel in my recommendations? Always a good day
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Is it king's blood or blood of dragon? Almost everyone who sacrifice has blood of dragon. Dany's son, the baretheon and more
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Khal Drogo burning on a pyre after his wounds killed him fits this. The salt of Danaerys' tears fit the salt.
Another interesting thing about the kings in Westeros is that many ancient kings before aegon conquests or even before where first men's families descendant of Garth Greenhand or people really close to the weirwoods
Its probably some kind of genetic thing, what we know as magic in asoiaf. Thats probably why the Targs and Valyrians porked their sisters. Also would explain why the Baratheon's have magic blood. They ARE descended from the Targs after all.
Great call on the priest's blood being what the prophecy called for. GRRM is a master of subtext, saying half of the sentence and showing the other half.
Adds a wonderful irony that Melissandre is herself what Stannis needs to complete the prophecy.
You have a beautiful voice.... Please come back to making more ASOIAF video's
This is the greatest series in the world right now. Thanks for the content and analysis
No forced humor, very well written and presented. I am really enjoying your videos!
Thank you!!!
Nice having you back.
Back again so quickly, we are indeed fortunate!
My theory is that Melisandre simply misheard or misread the keyword.
Power is not in kinGs blood but the power is in kinS blood. This is not a secret since it was the basis of the Targaryen's source of power… incest=kinS blood
Dany’s parents were brother and sister, kinS blood. She was able to hatch three dragon eggs. The ritual included a priestess, a human sacrifice, singing\wailing and encircled and consumed by fire.
In fact, in the show we have already seen someone wake a dragon from the stone... he just did not realize what he had done, because he knows nothing.
He resurrected a dead dragon from stone/ice. The ritual included a priest, a human sacrifice, singing\wailing and encircled and consumed by ice.
Jon Snow has kinS blood. B+L=J
It's been staring us in the face all along. He even looks more Stark than the Stark children. He bonded to a dire wolf. He doesn't have one trait of a Targaryen.
This is what Syrio Forell meant by "see with your eyes" and ignore the fantasies. Everyone is so desperate to make these prophecies "fit" that they are ignoring the truth in front of their eyes. As for the visions, the 3 Eyed Crow shows Bran, as old Nan says "All crows are liars." Even the mention of the so-called "marriage" between Lyanna and Rhaegar was a sentence at the bottom of a page that could have been inserted at any time. Also, it was in a diary where the maestre kept a record of his bowel movements. That is GRRM cheekily telling us that this diary was full of 💩
So yeah B is Benjen, the first person in the show to talk to Jon about fatherhood. It would also explain why Ned sent Benjen to the wall instead of making him his bannerman and then sending Benjen's son to the same fate.
Lastly, GRRM reinforces the difference between kin and king when he repeatedly uses kiN slaying and kinG slaying.
I really vibe with the theory that Azor Ahai and the Prince that was Promised are different. With that theory, the bloodstone emperor was the first azor ahai and started the long night. And the prince that was promised or the last hero was the one that ended it. I think Euron is azor ahai and will wake dragons from stone with a massive blood sacrifice. I think Jon is the prince that was promised because he is kings blood that was sacrificed to wake a dragon, meaning himself. I think the Jon that comes back will be a lot more Targaryen like. And this checks out because the targaryens were considered to be gods when they first came and had dragons. I suppose dany could be the same, but i think Jon will be it if he is resurrected.
Hey there! You are not alone, in my next video we are going to explore both prophecies! Believe it or not, you are closer to what i will be discussing than you think. Great thoughts there! Thanks for commenting.
The Disputed Lands Thanks so much for the reply! Really means a lot. I’m waiting eagerly for the next video. Keep up the great work.
This is good! I didnt think to separate "azor ahai" and "prince that was promised" like that. This would be another way that Mel has interpreted her own religious beliefs incorrectly wow!
Kris B Thanks! I think it also fits with the theory that the Great Empire of the Dawn (the forebears of the Yi Ti people) were dragon riders and that they were the people that taught the Valyrians dragon riding and that their capital was Asshai. Because with that theory it’s very likely that the bloodstone emperor and his sister were married in Valyrian style and that the blood betrayal was him killing his sister wife (nissa nissa). And because nissa nissa was considered to be a god at that time, he used that as a sacrifice for some ritual. I think this makes sense because of how I think magic works in the series. Varys said it best: “Power resides where people think it resides.” The sacrifice of a god king is powerful because people believe god kings to be powerful. The sacrifice of a king is less powerful because they aren’t considered to be as powerful. That’s why magic is stronger when there are dragons. Because dragons are living proof of magic that no one can refute. That’s why people think that Jon or dany will be azor ahai/prince that was promised. Because of their Valyrian heritage, they are believed to be above everyone else. Jon even more so because he came back from death. That’s just my thoughts.
Wow, this is a brilliant video! This explanation ties loose ends in so many places! From the Dothraki Sea to the Wall. Well done!
I am really curious about what kind of dragon euron is going to wake! Wtf is he doing? I have no clue what his end game is, I just hope he brings the apocalypse on the very top of the Hightower.
You researched "King's blood." However, "Kingsblood" is mentioned in Dany's first chapter as her genetic inheritance from the conquerors / old Valyria. I discuss it on my vid/essays on Kingsblood. I would love to discuss more with you so that we might look into it further, maybe collaborate. The word I use is also discussed in Jon's last 2 chapters and in one other chapter of Davos's. Only the Davos chapter is more directly related to what you are discussing here.
So, when im talking about king's blood in the video im talking about the sacrifical king's blood. There are for sure other times when a king is slain or someone mentioning being descended from kings within the series. I mean, fire and blood is full of dead kings, we have aerys, robert baratheon, robb stark, balon greyjoy and these are just the predominent ones. However, none of these deaths any magical aspect to them. What i had to do was find the context for the magical and sacrificial mentions in order to understand why melisandre would need this type of a sacrifice.
Im not currently doing collabs atm, im just getting back into the swing of things (i just started making videos a week ago) but thank you for the invitation!
@@TheDisputedLands Yes, to be sure, my focus is on the magical potential, or lack thereof, in the living person than whatever small or large magic can be brought about by their death. Incidentally, my concept of kingsblood might tie together your concepts of holy blood and King's blood. anyone with "the gift" as varamyr calls it, can reach out with their mind. When holy people do this it is called praying. That is why Euron is asking Aeron to pray IMO, to waken the gift within him, to connect him to the krakens, just as the starks are connected to the direwolves and the Dany to her dragons.
Rheagar is Azor Ahai, Lyana is Nisa Nisa and Jon is the lightbringer. That makes the most sense to me.
Jon is the corn🌽king...confirmed by grrm himself through mormont's Raven.
Lord of Light bless Lord Beric for giving the Kiss of Life to Crow Food's Daughter and returning her to us.
This was a well thought out and created video. I enjoy these videos digging into the minutae of asoiaf, looking at areas away from some of the larger lingering issues at play in the universe. I take material like this from you for however periodically they may come.
Glad to see you again! Your insights are always a delight and raise interesting questions :D
If the books follow the show in having Cersei destroy the Sept of Baelor with the High Sparrow (who is now the high septon, and the rest of the septons, septas, and faith militant inside, she could be on track to be Azor Ahai reborn as well.
I think blood in this context means gens. In asoiaf they talk of bloodlines and that relatives are of the same blood. What is needed to wake dragons from stone? Special gens. Targaryen gens. They probably are descendants from the Royal family of The Great Empire of the Dawn. They are probably "the kingly ghosts" in Danys wake the Dragon dream. And what does bloodmagic mean? Probably genetic engineering. We know the Valyrians did that and probably The Bloodstone Emperor before them.
This is what I thought at first but George has also talked about how he views the obsession with bloodlines as stupid and delusional
@@sabrinakrisb4672 The people of westeros don't know about gens so they call it King's blood or holy blood. Crawfoods daughter and Lucifer means Lightbringer have theorized that dragons are a genetically engineered and the Targaryen share some DNA with the dragons. It is probably why they practice incest. There is most likely a skinchancher gene as well, in Stark and other houses...
@@jonhauge-evaldsson783 Yeah I agree with that but I think ultimately more people have Targ blood and potentially even more ancient Valyrian blood than many people realize. Daynes most likely have Valyrian blood so a lot of Northerners in general most likely do too. So a lot of people have kings blood, to the point that it raises the question of why obsess over purity? It's a pointless game. George has said in interviews obsession over blood lineage is pointless because everyone is a mix of many things. I personally buy the theory that Dany has blood of old Valeria via the Dayne lineage.
So glad you are making videos again!
I think that preist that had burned hands and no eyes, was a faceless man, and his appearence is a foreshadowing of what will happen to arya when she tries to keave the faceless man.
First loved the video , I'll definitely be checking out more!
I'm also wondering about how far a descendant of a King it's still considarate king's blood, that's because a lot of the great houses have either been royal houses themselves in the past, or are connected to one.
Although there's no mention of kings blood in Alester Florent's sacrifice, it is mentioned that it was "in order to obtain favorable winds for their expeditionIn". Could have Melissandre sacrificed Lord Alester Florent to fool Stannis into believing in the power of king's blood? House Florent is the most senior descendant of house Gardener and are the legitimate heirs to the extinct Kingdom of the Reach. If king's blood is applied that way it would be too easy, Robert himself had 16 bastards, almost all the main characters are descendant of a King. After wathcing the video I think that the theory about holy blood is much more likely than the king's blood.
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So glad you're putting out content on YT again =)
Fantastic video, thank you. You have helped me understand the mysterious writing of GRRM.
SO happy to hear your voice again!! 🎉🙏
Spot on Amanda , excellent vid as always , look forward to you easing back into creating more content again. As usual I do agree with you here , the actual concept of king's blood in the traditional sense seems a flawed mess ; when we factor in usurpation , succession crises / issues , unexpected deaths , ntm the sheer amount of petty kings all over Westeros and the entire world at one point. The political power / governance / ruling aspect and designation with king's blood just does not make sense to me with magical ritual given how being considered royal or not , succession processes and the path to the throne can change over one's life or generations etc.
Amanda your explanation makes much more sense to me and is close to a long held belief i have had that you have explained much better than I ever could. As we know magic is real and exists in GRRM's ASoIaF universe and the religions therein mostly seem originated from & centered around types of magic either closely connected to them currently or at least were at some point in their past (as is likely the case with the Faith of the Seven). The religions seem a vehicle to explain and reconcile those various types of magic imo. In that respect the magical and / or religious blood makes much more sense to be coveted and useful in ritual(s). It is also possible the "king's blood" concept came from that fact these ancient legendary kings & rulers were likely magical people / practitioners ; these kings of legend from all over the world likely embodied and practiced some form of magic (likely specific to where they existed and ruled from) which set them apart , gave them an edge to seize power and would be a reason why the masses in a given area would rally around them. That could be the nexus point with the "king's blood" concept and where the origin of the term likely came from in that the "kings" / rulers themselves were actually magical people be it the Gemstone Emperors (likely original blood of the dragon) , warg kings, green-seer kings , water magic kings / rulers and beyond etc. In the end the magical blood seems to be what is needed ; the "king's blood" concept has some connection to royal / political power to an extent as they were actual kings / rulers but more specifically stems from needing magical blood which those legendary kings / rulers had.
Well done here as usual Amanda , your content is always top notch.
I think you explain it beautifully. Thank you so much!
The Disputed Lands this vid was fantastic as is all your content, look forward to hopefully seeing more vids from you in the near future. Idk how I missed this when it came out some days ago , I have long been subbed to your channel with notifications turned on but we all know TH-cam can routinely mess up. Glad even though I did not get notified that I came upon this vid , someone brought up during today’s IDG impromptu livestream that you came out with a couple new vids so I had to check them out. Great job with this vid , whenever you release content it is always excellent.
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Also, JON means "gift of God" or "god is gracious" in Hebrew.😲
Very interesting...
As complete as this theory is, there is something very obvious that was not mentioned in this video;
DRAGON BLOOD.
Targaryens are famed for breeding brother to sister, and this is a concept Cersei even dives deep on for obvious reasons. But what is missing from that is WHY Targaryens do this; because something magical IN their blood BINDS them to dragons.
OLD VALERYA is supposed to have been very big into sorcery, and blood magic is involved in becoming a dragon lord. The reason they wed within their own family is to prevent diluting the potency of the magic in their blood.
In Westeros, KINGS are primarily Targaryen in lineage, and even the houses that do not claim this, usually have some small measure of Targaryen blood. Stanis for example, his grandmother or great grandmother or something was from the blood line of the Targaryens.
In a world where you can’t get it PURE very easily, there ARE a crap ton of bastard ones out there. So if you can’t get the magic full strength directly from a Targaryen, you CAN get it from a bastard decendent. Or even a diluted legitimized decendent (stanis, etc)
“HOLY” as the Euron portions mention, neglects to look at the BLOOD MAGIC that would make one “holy” enough to be considered magically bound to a dragon.
And in the Mary Mazdur section, yes Khal Drogo and Mary Mazdur sacrificed in that ritual are king and holy alike, but ALSO sacrificed in that moment is also DANYS SON, which is DRAGON BLOOD.
Just a piece that seemed to be a weir oversight in a video this deep into the lore.
Thank you for sharing, and thank you for watching.
Great video - and an interesting insight in the holy/ kings blood theory / what Euron might be up too.
I always assumed there was power in king's blood because people believe there is. In this world, ppl revere kings and holy men. Therefore it has magical potency. I think magic is fueled by the collective beliefs of the ppl of planetos. Thus, dragons return, ppl believe they fuel magic, and thus magic grows in power.
The Baratheons would still have holy god's blood then, from fair Elenei that Godsgrief had married according to legend.
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I'm so glad she's back :)
The real history has a lot to add to this prophecy too. My own religious lore too. Jathaka stories tell stories of previous lives of lord Buddha, when he was ‘the Sakvithi king’, the king who can rule the world, the king blessed by the gods upon his birth, the king who would rule the world just. Such a king was to worshipped with a funeral pyre with the highest respect; so much to be equivalent of funerals of Buddha and Monks who had achieved Nirvana.
In the Dany's pyre which awoke the dragons there were sacrifices of khal Drogo, priestess Mirri and Dany's son. Not sure if her son counts as he was already dead.
As you mentioned that the ancient kings were also priests or "gods', perhaps for the sacrifice to work its magic ways, holy blood is required, yes, but perhaps the king's blood also, as they together form the "god king" blood.
Maybe for the magic bond to solidify, your own blood is needed also and that may be the purpose of Dany's son. King's blood, holy blood and the person's blood.
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I was just rereading a feast for crows and when samwell is talking about switching the babies and how “monster” is just a random baby born of incest so if he’s sacrificed it won’t do or mean anything I was thinking, back when we meet craster he is very adamant about him being a “godly man” and if the “blood of kings” is actually “holy/godly blood” then isn’t there a chance monster will be sacrificed and it will work better then it would if they sacrificed mance’s baby who only has “kings blood” because mance was named king beyond the wall? There could be lots of holes in this theory that I’m not aware of I don’t know nearly as much about ASOIAF as many of you theorists. But I was just thinking, craster is very certain he is a “godly man” and even mormont says he is but that he “serves crueler gods then you or I.” So his children by all means could have some of the “holiest” blood in all of planetos thus why the others want his babies and thus why he needs them to be born of incest to keep the “holy blood” pure.
Interesting thoughts there, crastor did call himself a godly man for sure.
@@TheDisputedLands then there's the idea that he is Bloodraven's bastard...
@@anne-kathrinhohlig1466 I don't see why that would be, but I suppose it is possible. There's no bridge in the text between Kingsblood and kinslaying, save for what @The Disputed Lands has posted here. FWIW I have posted my second Kingsblood video, dealing with some related material.
I dont think there's any real power in Kings Blood beyond the fact that power resides where men believe it resides. People have faith in Kings and that gives them power.
A year too late but it could be Valyrian blood that’s needed. There’s something about the Valyrian word for “dragon” and “prince “ bring similar enough for Mel to confuse the two. The fact that Targaryen blood has booth might be relevant
A asiof fanfic once depicted that kings usually have sorcerer and magical ancestry so in essence not king blood but magically rich blood
@@scientistx5717 George has literally said bloodline purity isn't the point of his books. The idea of the blood itself holding magical power is an illusion. idc about what some fanfic says.
@@sabrinakrisb4672 purity or not bro genetics still hold even george said it has some relation at least
More magic alleles you lose less magic you have
You can't tell me valyrians,first men and rhoynar don't have magic in their blood??
@@scientistx5717 I'm not saying genetics have zero effect on human life, of course they do. The point is that genetics isnt the only thing that matters and "bloodline purity" doesn't exist. Chasing bloodlines is an ultimately pointless venture. Sooooo many people have Targ and general Valyrian ancestry in some way now. They intermarried and had a lot of bastards. Even if other houses didn't have access to dragons, they often still have some kind of warging abilities e.g. Starks. At some point chasing the idea of bloodlines doesn't matter anymore. All the bloodline stuff in the books is a distraction.
Stannis is my god
-davos
I always thought that the old kings were not of this world and actually had a different genetic make up than us. Pharaohs breeding with sisters like targaryens to keep the blood pure - maybe they’re trying not to delude alien / actual DRAGON genes? Maybe that’s the case here?
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Another! Yes please.
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I'm lucky TH-cam just recommended this video to me, you just earned a subscriber! Will also make sure to check out the other stuff in your channel.
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Entire story reeks of “dont plan with a prophecy in mind” . Yet people are still doing that.
The biggest question for me isn’t why It has power but what it is. Is it just that royal blood is magical blood, so all magical blood is King’s blood? Or, is that the belief and power people have in a king gives his blood power? Or is it a leader of men willingly sacrificing themselves? All three cases are true always.
If Melisandre and stannis had a dragon egg and they had sacrifice edric i can totally see then getting a dragon.
I think the Azor Ahai prophecy and the Prince that was Promised prophecy are one in the same. AAR is pretty clearly Daenarys, as she is the only character to literally wake living dragons from stone, as her eggs are said to have fossilized into stone, and this is the only time we see king's blood working some supernatural feat. While Dany is the literal AAR, it is possible that Jon Snow is a metaphorical AAR figure as well. If you belive R+L=J, then Jon has king's blood.
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The King is the Price, and not the Consumer. It is not for him to purchase but to be purchased. Not to be served but to serve. Not to spill blood but to have his own blood be spilled in the place of others.
Great video! Thanks!
Great video Amanda.#StaySafe
Been a long time coming...
What are your thoughts on the Long Night timeline actually being 5,000 years ago rather than 8,000-10,000? If that's the case, the Azor Ahai prophecy may not even be a prophesy--but documentation of the original person.
Also, if holy blood is the real king's blood, what do you make of the fact that the Dothraki seem to have collected them as well?
Also, it's my belief that much of Dorne is based on Dune. As such....who would be The God Emperor of Dorne... Okay, I'll stop.
Edit: you know what? The sandworms of Dune have armored bodies and represent fire (part of the biological process of making spice) also... Wonder if that means anything.
One last thing (I swear): Daenerys' Dragon hatching was viewed as a religious experience by the Dothraki. Does that make her a king? I think it does.
I do believe the long night ocurred 5,000 years ago. Im doing my AA video now, some answers may present themselves in the video.
Yes, that does make her a king in a sense, the dothraki follow strength and they viewed it as a miracle that she could survive the fire and bring dragons into the world, but according to dothraki tradition a king is referred to as a khal, dany is considered the equivalent of a khal by her dothraki followers after the miraculous event and retains the epithet of khaleesi.
If Danerys didnt already obviously fulfill this piece of the prophecy, I hc Jon is the stone dragon that must be awoken with king's blood. He's a Targaryen/Valyrian AKA "Dragon" and, well, dead at this point. All signs are pointing to his resurrection, also. He's also likely another "head" to the 3-headed-dragon in the prophecy, etc. It's just all very intertwined.
the preist, the king, But also the father first and then the son. she put her dead baby in their too, but dont forget their is also a horse....
Fantastic video !!!!!
I think she misinterpreted the Prophecy and that the prophecy might have actually been describing Dany hatching the Dragon eggs after Khal Drogo was sacrificed by Miri in her ritual
Every time we as a fandom discuss Azor Ahai-the Promised Prince prophecy, I can't help but think it 100% is Dany. There's just-too much subtext for it not to be her, and Martin has always been a staunch critic of changing the plotline because something became obvious to the reader.
Here's some points *I personally think* lend credibility to Dany being the Azor Ahai:
> She's born in Dragonstone (amidst salt and smoke, yada yada yada. Also, from it being during a storm, there would be no sun, stars or moon during that particular day, which also happened during the Long Night-that utter, almost unnatural darkness. If y'all ever witnessed a tropical monsoon, you know what I'm talking about)
> Daenerys killed her love (Drogo) by her own hand. He was in a vegetative state, half dead, half alive, brought back by black magic, but then again, we didn't get the specifics about Nissa Nissa.
> Had the sacrifice of king's blood (her own son, Rhaego, who was the Targaryen heir by all intends and purposes, SPECIALLY after Drogo promises to take back the Iron Throne for his wife. It wasn't a direct thing, but when she killed Mirri Maz Duur maybe Rhaego's "life force" or whatever, taken by her to bring back Drogo, was transferred to the eggs, thus fulfilling that bit of the ritual by accident)
> Woke literal dragons out of stone eggs (no other character came CLOSE to it in a more tangible way, and I don't think the prophecy meant stone dragons poetically)
She's the Unburnt, reborn from a pire that SHOULD have killed her (which by Martin's admission was a freak phenomenom-that sounds like a one in a thousand years prophecy, doesn't it?). Aegon united the Seven Kingdoms after a dragondream of his, and Rhaegar, in his arrogance, thought he was the Prince Who Was Promised after another one of those; would make sense that the last remaning Targaryen (completely ignoring maester Aemon and the Dragonseeds, I know!) would carry that prophecy to fruition.
She's fire, a nepobaby idealist whose justice seems to be, at times, selective (read: Maquiavel had a point. Daenerys is a monarch and monarchs tend to have either loose morals or a loose political hold over their realm)-the very opposition to ice and death; the last of which is, somewhat, more realistic and democratic as it gets to all eventually and in equal measure, be them baseborn, slaves or noblemen. All men must die, tomato tomato. You get the gist.
Edit: Also! If we consider this Empire of Dawn to Dragonlords of Valyria to Targaryen pipeline, that would mean House Targaryen has literal divine blood, and so, to a lesser extent, does House Baratheon. That would explain why Robert's blood was "king's blood" even though he was an usurper. I personally don't believe magic cares much about gentry disposition as much as it cares about literal bloodline properties, to be honest.
Edit²: my bets are Jon will be the new consort to the Night Queen, but will turn on her at the last moment to save the world. He will thus help Daenerys and take his place as the third dragon head, alongside Blackfyre Aegon and their aunt. Like genderbend!Conquerors.
Maybe the Night Queen and the Maid Made Of Light are also the same entity. Galadriel sorta thing. She's that terrible force whose knowledge is so great and nature so inhuman she is monstrous to all weaker creatures who are unable to understand the meaning of her ways.
Aaaaaand Bran... Bran's been the narrator all along, as the three eyed raven. That one is a wild guess based off the funny voices inside my head, but I'd be so cool if it was true lol
@@elfodelputoinfierno very cool ideas, thank you so much for watching!
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What if the stone dragons she plans to wake are the fossilized bones under kings landing
Did the bloodstone emperor kill his sister bc he wanted to wake the dragon?
Its difficult to tell. The best way would be to see why other kinslaying takes place in the series, he usually builds on archetypes.
I wonder how Viserys (II) ties in with his incessant ominous warnings about that
Daenerys (II) needs to be thankful Viserys was apparently unaware of how to wake said dragons.
Being sold to Drogo ironically protected her.
Dany was of King's blood and woke three stone dragons from their petrified eggs. But khal Drogo was also a King and his son Rhaego's blood boiled away and three eggs were able to hatch in the process
I agree that Melisandre saw the other King's deaths in her flames, but what if it's only because of the leaches that the deaths happened? Do you understand what I mean? Like with Renly, she saw either 2 or 3 outcomes, but they can't all be right. What if, if she never did the leaches, then the other Kings didn't die? But because she did, then they did die. Not saying it's right, just saying
Does this mean Nissa Nissa was a priestess?
Hey Durran! She was probably magical and connected to the gods. I have discussed in the mermaid wife video that she likely had ressurrective powers.💯
Drogo was the kings blood for sure
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why Crowsfood daughter?
Im, sorry, I dont understand the question.
@@TheDisputedLands why choose the moniker of Crowfood's Daughter over a all the other aliases out there in ASOIAF? Or rather, what's the story for choosing the alias Crowfood's Daughter for yourself and channel?
@@ursaber i chose this name because she is an abducted woman and i appreciate the theme of the abducted woman within the series. She is also a character without a name, we just know her as crowfood's daughter. So it is a very obscure reference, i like that🙂.
@@TheDisputedLands thanks for the info!
holy shit. if Melisande burns sheeren, then davos will burn mellisandra, which will wake jon.....
The ancient sumerian notion of kinghood is based on the sacred marriage, a tradition that passed down millennia.
The king would ritually marry the highest goddess, closely linked with the powers of the sun. Failure to keep the goddess happy would result in disasters such as famines, and require the sacrifice of the king himself. A new king would then marry the goddess.
God-kings is a perversion of this relationship, which wasn't tenable to kings that became extremely powerful.
Then look at the cult of egyptian goddess Isis. Mock sacrifices, induced near death experiences to enter into the afterlife to gain sacred relationship with her, awakening from the afterlife to return was the sign.
Tacticus the Roman historican that wrote on the various Germanic tribes described them as 'worshipping Isis" i.e some goddess with the same powers or role. They would practice human sacrifice to a high degree.
Later norse mythology provides a story which gives context to how ritual sacrifice would work. In Hyndlaljod, a man sacrifice a boar, his soul melting together with the boars, then being ridden into the afterlife by Freya. Long story short, sacred marriage, gaining powerful mythological knowledge and the gift of rememberance and return to the living. Sacrifices and mock sacrifices was a essential initiation to kingship. And at least one swedish king was sacrificed to fix repeated crop failures.
Now, not all of this has influenced something in ASOIAF. But I can see some elements. Might be something to look into?
I think your way of seeing religions comparatively is bringing out fantastic richness to grrm's mythology.
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so good!
Sarella/Alleras ....might be the third head because of his/her sphynx status. Or Bran will ski change the third dragon. He's definitely a sphynx. Made up of many things behind the face of a man.
Until Robert's rebellion all kings blood in westeros was targaryen blood. The blood of the dragon,wakes dragons from stone! At least that how I interpreted it. Obviously in the past targaryens were able to hatch dragons before.
Blood of the dragon.
The only person who has woken Dragons from stone is Queen Daenerys! #IstandwithDaenerys
Agreed absolutely.
It’s great 👍
Will you ever collab with LML and /or Quinn ?
She has in the past, if you scroll back far enough. A couple old live discussion vids.
Well hey there! There are no plans for collabs with anyone atm, but thank you for inquiring! In general i am open to collabing with anyone who doesnt think my ideas are silly. I have corresponded recently with one of the mentioned creators but i am more focused on maintaining boundaries for myself and getting back into the swing of writing videos again. Im not sure if you were aware but i just came back from a year long break just last week😆. Thanks for watching and i appreciate your asking.
@@TheDisputedLands Sorry it's just that LML recently had a discussion where he specifically talked about your theories of Valyrians being genetic experiments and how you discovered the Lizard Men etc. That's what got me here
Of look in Bible there is king of Salem(future Jerusalem) was priest king. Jesus is the same. He is king and priest.
Is Lightbringer Dawn?
I discuss this in my latest video.