The Ironborn Mystery - Disaster Hunters of Ancient Westeros - A Song of Ice and Fire
ฝัง
- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ก.ย. 2023
- Use my code LIGHTBRINGER to get $5 off your delicious, high protein Magic Spoon cereal by clicking this link: sponsr.is/magicspoon_lightbri...
Who are the Ironborn? Where did they come from? Are they just First men who are good at fishing and hate farming, or do they come from a lost land across the sea... or from the watery halls of the Deep Ones under the sea? Disaster Hunters of Ancient arrives at the Iron Islands, where we'll hunt sea dragons, storm gods, squishers, and seafaring strangers, and we'll be using a cultural anthropologist's approach as our weapons of war.
Disaster Hunters playlist: • Disaster Hunters of An...
🜏 One-time donation to support: www.paypal.me/mythicalastronomy
🜏 Join our Patreon: / davidlightbringer
🜏 All things Mythical Astronomy: lucifermeanslightbringer.com/
🜏 Teeshirts & Merch: lucifer-means-lightbringer.cr...
🜏 NEW mythology YT Channel: / mythicconcepts
🜏 NEW sci-fi & more YT Channel: / @moonmediacollective
Twitter: @thedragonLML | Instagram: @davidlightbringer
title image uses "The Seastone Chair" by Matt Brown - บันเทิง
![CAMPปลิ้น | EP.76[2/2] เดินมาสิบกว่าป่า วันนี้รู้แล้วว่าโจโฉกลัวอะไร!](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/R7Yor-t2Au0/mqdefault.jpg)
![[FULL EP.69] #เอิร์นจิรวรรณ เปิดบ้านหมื่นล้านทุกมุม ครั้งแรก! l เคหสถานบานปลาย l One Playground](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/_J4_nw8c64o/mqdefault.jpg)
And I thought peaking on these shrooms couldn’t get any better.
Bahaha
Pass some this way dude
Oh wait, I need some of my friends' magic chocolates 😊
One time i clicked on one of these vids on acid and i thought "ah maybe this isn't the right vibe" but it ended up being fucking perfect lmao
Watching these videos entirely sober still makes me feel like I'm uncovering arcane secrets. I can imagine how the psychedelic experience would make this stuff completely mind blowing. Probably how Bran felt after eating that "weirwood" paste
I'd be super happy if GRRM just hired you to help finish the series. Your imagination and attention to detail is astounding
thank you so much!
I second that motion
Yes! I think if GRRM watched his videos he might get some of his excitement and passion for writing back, too. These videos always reignite my curiosity.
@@jazwhoaskedforthis I'm getting close to having more hours into watching these videos than I have into reading the books. But to be fair, I'm not making the same mistake I've made all my life anymore. I could have read all 5 books ages ago but I'm still in the beginning parts of book 3. I'm really savoring this book series, only reading a few chapters at a time. The reread will be very fun but it doesn't compare to that first read through.
for real this guy is the biggest ASOIAF nerd that i've ever seen, and around my hometown that is supposed to be my title. but hot damn does David really get deep in the lore, it's really great considering we've run out of material from George.
I belief that the seastone chair was a sacrificial altar, of which the ironborn have forgotten it's function. Fits with the whole blood calling krakens from the deep thing going on in the story.
Also it is deliberately called a chair, not a throne. Chair comes from cathedra, also the root word for cathedral, so a holy seat.
The Lord Reaper sits on the sacrificial slab of the chair. This does fit in with theories that link blood magic/sacrifice and the oily black stone.
YES and also SSHHHH because this is one of my big reveals for video 3!! I absolutely think it was an altar where sacrifices to the Deep Ones were left
the Greyjoys: "looks like a great place to sit my ass down" 😅😅
Fun fact: Here in Germany, there is the North Sea Island of Föhr, and it's main town is called Wyk, too. And guess what: The part of the German coast around Föhr was drowned in a storm surge in the 14th century, and what used to be part of the mainland became fractured and only islands like Föhr remained. Just google (Second) Saint Marcellus's Flood or Rungholt, the "Atlantis of the North Sea"! :)
Wanted to add this. Aber Hey du warst schneller 😅
Maybe Grrm was inspired by this. Just like he used the German word Stark which means strong when translated to English. So some people theorise that some ancient relatives of the disappeared House Strong (by the time of GoT) became the Starks. Like how other southern houses like the Manderlys and Brackens migrated north.
@@TheAstroWitchLux or maybe more than one house was called 'strong'. It's not like Alexander was the only 'Great'
@@TheAstroWitchLux I would like to believe that. Sadly, the history of the North Frisian islands is hardly known even in other parts of Germany, so I'm not sure whether an American would know it. If yes, it would be by pure chance.
Thanks for that Knowledge drop.
GRRM must be a consummate researcher.
Give this man a round of applauds for his eloquent analysis of the Ironborn.
Yep. The Ironborn are more than just Westrosi Not-Vikings. It's another example of discussion I was in on a Discord about how Martin is great at not overwhelming the readers with worldbuilding details, but puts it there in background. It helps center his narrative on characterization, but makes rereads a joy, giving us more for our buck.
oooh very well said
@@DavidLightbringer sorry I've been gone for a while. I've had a lot crazy shit happen to me over the past 2 years.
Exactly! And there are always one more layer... One more flavour. One more nugget about something in another time or place.
Yeah and he also world builds in different levels, he talks about distant history, aswel as recent history at the same time. It differs big time with some other writers
I absolutely love the idea of remembering that Andals wrote rhe history so therefore "First Men" arent a single ethnogroup so much as the people who were here when they got there.
it dawned on me very suddenly one day and I was like OH, THIS IS OBVIOUSLY TRUE haha
Lovecraft's creations are also eons in existence. To me, the way the Ironborn reads...they might be the FIRST of the "first men". They have that Lovecraftian ancient god cult-follower feel with a Hillbilly Pirate veneer.
"Hillbilly Pirates" is an image that's going to stay with me for life now: thanks...
Something like Jed Clampett's overloaded truck full of cutlass-wielding characters wearing straw tricorn hats - The Crimson Permanent Assurance on moonshine...🤣
A three part video series about the Ironborn, with the first part already being more than one hour long, and maybe even an additional stream? Sounds like a true and proper... in-depth analysis...
So happy to watch this. Had a catastrophe happen in my life yesterday but your videos are always such a comfort even in difficult times 🖤
I hope you overcome whatever you're going through right now 🖤 You got this!
take care 💚
❤
I feel spoiled from all of the juicy world-building, symbolism, and theories in this one. I was completely enthralled throughout the entire video; well worth the wait and I'm so looking forward to the next two
Enthralled, hehe
Also , the Ironborn held Moat Cailin like a champ. Roose, Ramsey & the rest of the Northmen were sure that there was more of them than the few diseased, malnurished Ironmen that remainedthey were engineering and operating from those towers fiercely like it was in their blood (Pyke being peninsula & regulating shit).
Ironborn left on Moat Cailin were Codds, descendants of slaves. Slaves are usually taken from other parts of Westeros.
The drowned god lives in a pineapple under the sea.
I find the Ironborn and the Starks are from the same group of mainlanders at different emigration times. Much like the Normans and the Yorks were resettled Vikings from different invasions.
I've also noticed Theon has some major Gollum/Smeagol parallels and wouldn't be surprised if he plays a key role in the finale.
I hope that he doesn't meet a similiar end; a very hot end. It's possible in the next book, but I want to see a complete redemption for Theon. He's suffered enough. He knows himself now.
@@hoonterofhoonters6588 I'm thinking death by fire is likely and he'll be trying to save something precious.
@@Loreweavver I think that I know what you mean.
It would be an interesting twist on the character arc. Like Gollum, Theon chooses his side; he makes his final decision and dies for it, but he dies for something worth all of the pain. His death could be an act of redemption instead of a regression.
Please finish the book, George. We've been speculating on this stuff for years.
Well, considering Sméagol probably had similar torture to Theon if we ignore the setting and unsaid torturing it would be more plausible as what was done to him
They are also often called Iron Men. Iron Man is Tony Stark
Great vid. I think the ironborn took the drown god after their journey to westoros traumatized them, with mass death by starvation and drowning at sea, a worship of the tides as giver and taker of life. Which is why what is dead may never die, a lot of them drowned and they washed ashore, like patchface, where they found the seastone chair, which made the washing ashore seem destined or a gift from their drowned god.
I pulled up TH-cam for something to listen to while I shower and get dinner ready and here's an over hour long video just waiting on tip for me! I yelped so loud my husband asked if I was ok 😂
the ancient disaster hunter series is quickly becoming one of my favorites! i wouldn’t stop talking about the release of this video to everyone around me! thank you for the amazing content!
💯
@@DavidLightbringer can’t wait for part 2!
I'm working on an embroidered map of Westeros rn, and the first thing I noticed about Wyk after I got it drawn on the fabric was that looks like a caldera. I was hoping you'd address it in this video. maybe the kraken or Deep Ones like to hang out in the heat from geothermal vents, or get stirred up to the surface by underwater eruptions?
I was just thinking the SAME thing!! It has to be a caldera.
Clearly the ironborn archipelago has gone thru some violent tectonic actions. Makes sense that Pyke was once more complete, and some parts have since fallen into the sea. How much has fallen?
This is far enough removed that an earthquake and tsunami at the Arm of Dorne wouldn't greatly affect it. (I doubt it would the Arm event would greatly impact even the Neck; it requires more than one turn and tsunamis don't do that.)
@burtan2000 I'm also struck by the phrase "boiling blood-red sea" from the Forsaken teaser chapter. if the Valyrians kept the 14 Flames under control with sorcery (blood magic?) and the mass sacrifice/murder of the mages resulted in the eruption of those volcanoes, could another sacrifice of priests unleash the old volcano under the Iron Islands? or if the Deep Ones are awakened by a massive sea battle, would that cause an eruption? maybe the volcano is/was a prison?
of course, I could be thinking too deep and speaking out of my ass, but I think I'll contemplate it some more. LML always brings out the deep thinking in me! lol
... I was ready to call it a night... now I'm taking a gummie and getting back to work with arguably the best content in the fandom on in the background 🎨🖌😌🦑🌊
Sounds like a wonderful evening. Also you're so pretty.
The Iron Born remind me of the folktales and legends of the Orkney and Shetland islands where Norse and Celtic cultures blended
IRONBORN HYYYYPE
Since it has been drowned in good content, this channel can never die. But only rise, harder and stronger!
My theory is that the iron islands weren't islands, but all one solid chunk of land at one point. Similar to Valyria. Large volcanic eruptions are often paired with subsidence of the land around after as the pool of magma below shrinks, near a coastline this can mean sinking the land. All I know is something bad likes making islands.
I watched this series In reverse and I just gotta say it’s excellent, you clearly put a lot of work into your produced videos and it shows. Tbh I have yet to read the books but I’ve watched you for years now cause your videos and streams are so good and teach you enough even if you don’t know the source material
Haha at first I thought you meant you watched this video in reverse. I was very impressed in your dedication to an abstract experience.
You remind me of my relationship with Warhammer. I've never played the actual game but I'm fascinated by the macabre lore. I've spent hour upon hour listening to 40k lore videos while doing unpleasant tasks around my house. It's one of my favourite things to help me do stuff I have to do
@@YarPirates-vy7ivthis comment😂. Thanks for being you my friend
@@ThommyofThennYou're welcome! I would have seriously respected a person who had done that tho!
I love the intro to this video so much. The music, the atmosphere, the visuals they way you lay everything out and the Amaizing Lovecraft quote as the Cherry on top. More of this please. It's honestly based on just video making this might be your best work
thank you! I'm always trying to get better! the new lighting has been a boost as well
@@DavidLightbringer You could use a quote from a patchface in the intro for part 3 that could work well
Considering the hinge imposed by geography, it reasons that Battle Isle was established as a forward base to contest Wyk's aggression. Their command must have suffered no shortage of volcanic fire, captives, and foul practice to forge the arms necessary to threaten the Great Empire.
So excited! The iron born are such a mystery! I wanna know more about them and any magic accessible to them. They do seem devolved, but I find myself rooting for them!
I love the idea of the ironborn wriggling and crawling out of the seas amd learning to breathe air.
I’m at work but this video is certainly going to the top of my list as soon as I get off!
Damn that camera quality is wild!!! cant wait for this one
Another great video dear! Worth the wait! 😊
Yay! So excited for this!❤
I've been so excited for this one! Thanks LML for more great content!
🤣👏sweet promo again man, i had a weird thought that Ironborn used to be Dothoriki that we’re brave enough to cross the sea XD
same energy for sure
This series has probably been my favourite of yours so far! Can't wait to sink my teeth into this vid!
The Iron Born mythology/ mystery is fascinating. This has been a great series! Excellent video and commercial, my friend.
I am naturally resistant to new (to me) content creators but the title and length of this one made me click anyway, and I’m super glad that I did. Good stuff.
oh that's helpful feedback thank you!
Looks like I became a Squisher just in time! Hopefully Nimble Dick doesn’t try to come hunt me down!
Honestly since I've begun doing the Xothic Legend Cycle, where island nations like Indonesia, Micronesia, Hawaii and so on are all remains of a sunken continent in the Pacific, the idea of all these weird islands in ASOIAF once being parts of larger landmasses that got flooded start making more and more sense. Iron Islands, Thousand Islands, the Neck all seem like they were once connected to their resprctive mainlands and bigger, much like the Stepstones. Then for good measure George throws in the opposite like the Silver Sea receding and becoming the Great Grass Sea or the widespread desertification out East resulting in the Great Sand Sea and the Grey Waste. Climate change seems to be a huge focal point in the story with both massive flooding in some areas and massive drought in others, much like in the real world.
You make “Iron Born” a mood. ❤️
That Magic Spoon transition was actually really good
Oh yeahh! I've been waiting for this one!
Two weeks ago I took my dog out for a walk and accidentally walked into a Devo show at the beach. I had just watched this episode, so I thought of you ✌🏼🐙
YEEEEEESSSSSSSS its time!!!!!!!!!
Squish squish squish
Amazing video as always! Also, calling it Grrth instead of Planetos is such a violation, whoever first came up with that is a public menace 💀💀💀💀💀
And just like that I need a fresh pair of drawers…..
I've often wondered when the Iron Island slogan "What is dead may never die, but rises again" was born, since it conjurs up the Others/wights image so much (for me, anyway). Given that I firmly believe that there were Long Nights before the one we know of, I wonder if it became a phrase after 'our' Long Night, or the previous one.
The hype you've built up for "the ironborn video" has COMPLETELY paid off.
Dave you’re too good at what you do, stop it!! Rhaegar thank you for making an appearance also we ❤️ u xo
BANGER ALERT
If you seek a pleasant peninsula…
don’t look to Pyke.
Another fantastic vid LML! I appreciate all your time & effort… see you next Sunday!
I’ve been so ready for this!!!
I accidentally managed to watch this series backwards but the explanation is so clear and well articulated that it still worked.
Been wanting a video like this for awhile, thank you
Your sense of humour is so funny and cheeky! You really should be on TV dude you've got this incredibly dry British-American sense of humour where you can never really tell if you're being sarcastic or not, until in retrospect when it's always clear you were indeed being positive and sincere... brilliant.
i learned from Monty Python and other Brits, haha. thanks very much I really appreciate it. You gotta throw in some laughs when you're going all symbolism and myth heavy
@@DavidLightbringer I just finished Nimble Dick's Squisher Hunt and it was glorious. Can't get that voice out my head haha! I just re-read AFFC a few weeks ago and that will be the last time I imagine Nimble Dick as anything other than machete toting redneck squishier vigilante
Fantastic work, David. That was very informative, it really gave me a lot to think about.
Right around the hour mark, every time you say "Black Metal" I get this powerful flashbacks from my facepainted youth, raising my hands to the air, one in the sign of the horns, the other holding overpriced beer in a flimsy plastic cup, while screaming "MIGHTY RAVENDARK OF BLASHYRK!", while trying to peer through the glare of the stagelights bouncing off the wobbling cement nails attached to my leather bracers.
I guess you'd have had to been a 90's Euro-BlackMetal kid listening to bands like Mayhem, Darkthrone, Immortal, Emperor, and such, to fully understand...
IT’S FINALLY HERE
Wooo, put it back on! Sorry to disappoint 😂
Was eagerly waiting for this one. Was not disappointed. Looking forward to the rest of the series!
I have always been fascinated by your thoughts on the Iron Islands and love seeing it all come together.
Poor Rhaegar!! He sounded sad😢... I really think he's genuinely sorry... Please tell him he's got a loyal & dedicated fun!!
P. S. You're ok too DL😊
Day after day, day after day, We stuck, nor breath nor motion; As idle as a painted ship Upon a painted ocean. Water, water, every where, And all the boards did shrink; Water, water, every where, Nor any drop to drink .
Listening to this while taking a nap on the couch gave me some incredibly strange and disturbing dreams!
haha I bet
Awesome video as always, was looking forward to this one
If Pyke was part of the peninsula you theorize, the peninsula itself would have looked like a pike!
So ready for this one
YESSSSSS! Something to do at work for a couple hours lol.
LET'S GO!!!
Love the video, can't wait to watch tomorrow (UK). Already know its a banger and keep up the good work
Love it. I was so excited when I saw your preview message. Can't wait to see whats next.
Let's go, Lightbringer ! ❤🎉
Wicked hyped for this
Loving all the amazing content lately!
Can't get enough of this :)
Looking forward to the other Ironborn vids
Keep up the good squish
;D
THE IRONBORN VID IS HERE LETS GOOOOO W DAVID
it's been a couple of months since i've watched one of your (non livestream) videos and HOT DAMN! not only imo the best content but also great visualisation? you spoil us LML ❤ can't wait for the next video
Magic Spoon cereal has gotta be happy with your effort!
I've been waiting for this one since that one about the hammer of the waters. You're great!
love me some timeline heresy in the first minute
actually i do need to be able to sleep tonight, but cant wait to watch this over the weekend! i can already see it's going it be dany-level awesoem
Absolutely love these videos.
Freakin awesome David!
Have watched this 3 times now and will watch it again😁
Great job my good Ser!
dave's really upping the production quality out her. i see you.
Just what I was looking for ❤
These videos have been really interesting I can't wait for the next one. Thanks for all the great content. Best wishes to you and yours.
I just heard on a Gresham college lecture that prehistoric people (beside the Thames River) may not have caught fish there, that it might have been taboo. Because if you buried your family there you don't want to be messing about trying to catch fish - that your granny's spirit might have gone into.
My day is so much better since I have an amazing new Lightbringer video to watch!! Thank you!!
Yaaaay! Here it is! The long awaited Ironborn video! Wuhoooo!!! Great work as always. Btw, I watched about 90% of your content already (still couple of reread chapters I need to catch up to). Always from beginning to end! Love your videos ❤❤❤ Keeping the ASOIF spirit alive👌 I'm always amazed that you can still come up with new solid theories 👏👏👏
I've wondered if maybe the Seastone Throne was meant as a warning of what's west past the Iron Islands.
Oh, David, this is an awesome stream🎉
The last section's title "Cosmic Starfish and the Deep One Flavored Water" almost redeemed the existence of Fred Durst's career. Almost. I really enjoyed this video. I would love if the oily black stone is a combination of cosmic origin, arcane eldritch practices, and maybe even some good old human sacrifice. Blood drying black, caked over time, having a greasy consistency from human fat and blood letting over the stones, baked in with salt and flame...like the world's worst cast iron pan. Cast ironborn.
Been a fan of the channel a while now. Your content helps me get through my notes and hw. I watched most of the Deep Ones vid and just had to watch the whole series
Favorite video yet ❤❤
I want that jacket, Dave!!
Perfect timing, David
Lol literally just finished your Ned live stream. This is perfect still currently drawing.
(Late Roman’s)
Your produced videos are superb quality!
Your "GenX" style perception of this lore is topz!~
Keep on keeping on
oh is that what I'm doing
I mean if the island of Pyke was connected to the mainland, it would make sense with the name thing with both versions of naming being true. I mean with it connected one could say it looked like the "pike" of Westeros. So that stretch of land was called the "Pike" and the castle was called Pyke after the shape. Then the pike broke and now you have an island. What to name the island? Well, we have a castle called Pyke we'll call it that!
oh okay that's not bad. I'll run that by Tim
Oh man I love these long format theory videos. I'm already hyped for parts 2 and 3! Love you Dave, keep on keepin' on.
Loving your videos and live streams brother
Wow just wow lml you are very good 👏👏👏 Excited for the next 2 videos