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Setup 1:
Moza R5 Bundle: mozaracing.com/product/r5-bun...
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Setup 2:
Logitech G29 (PlayStation & PC): geni.us/a4gO
Logitech G920 (Xbox & PC): amzn.to/3uD3bWE
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Next Level Racing GT-Lite Pro: nextlevelracing.com/products/...
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Setup 3:
Fanatec Ready2Race McLaren Bundle: ?FAP+Banner&OCRacing&General+Links&a_aid=OCRacing
CSL DD Wheelbase: fanatec.com/us-en/racing-whee...
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McLaren GT3 Wheel: fanatec.com/us-en/steering-wh...
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ClubSport Pedals: fanatec.com/us-en/pedals/csl-...
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0:00 Intro
1:10 Setup 1
3:42 Setup 2
6:00 Setup 3
9:30 Conclusio
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I’m so glad you mentioned the diy route 👍! My first sim set up was a used G920, used Xbox one, an old 27in monitor I had around, a junkyard Porsche seat and a home made wood rig. All in it cost me around $300. I had so much fun with that set up I would recommend that route to anyone considering getting into sim racing. See if you like it and if you do then upgrade one thing at a time. I’m now over $5000 into it with a PC, VR, 23nm dd, high end pedals, 4 corner bass shakers, and aluminum profile rig. My first set up was probably like 80% as much fun as my current setup. You pay a lot more for just a little more fun and immersion.
Just bought a thrustmaster t300rs gt mostly playing on ps5.. I love it! Attached it to a small desk and it works great!
Man this is perfect. I was literally looking for a sim racing kit and this video pops up. New to the channel but your vids are really cool. Keep it up 👍
Great to hear, thanks :)
Perfect thing to come back to after a long day
been watching you for a little bit and cause of you I got the g29 which I do not regret at all, never knew racing in games could be this fun.
Awesome to hear, thanks!
I am a beginner and have the exact set up. G29 with shifter and the GT Lite Pro and so happy with the fun i am getting. I use a headphone with VR thus i dont hear the grinding. With the VR, driving is very immersive
I just got into sim racing last September when I bought a 2nd hand g920 for 70 bucks from a pawn shop.
Then last month I found a guy on Facebook selling his csl dd bundle who was looking for cash plus a g920. He had hurt his back using the loadcell brakes and wanted to go back to what he was used to.
I gave him 300 bucks plus the g920 for his csl dd bundle which included the loadcell brake and f1 wheel. It was only 2 months old and still with all the boxes etc for around half the retail price.
There's great deals out there if you're prepared to be patient, i don't really have the best options where i live but if you're in a well populated area there will be lots of second hand gear for sale that is worth checking out if you're on a tight budget like myself.
I own a very similar setup to the second option in the form of an old g27 and an wheelstand v2 also from next level racing like the cockpit in the video.
I have to say it can not be underestimated how important a proper mounting option is. Having a proper place for my wheel and paddles, so that it takes only a fraction of the time to setup and everything is way more stable compared to mouning it on my desk was a huge game changer for me.
The other game changer was a proper brake pedal. More on that down below.
If you realy are stripped for cash, there is nothing wrong in buying an used logitech g29,920, etc. I would however replace the wobly foldable cockpit with at least an stable wheelstand, that has a rest for your chair. NLR and gt track have one for offer for basicly less than the f-gt-light/pro. And they can be used later on, when you upgrade to a direct drive. I would also ad the so called truebrake mod for the Logitech brake paddle. It basicly transforms them into a loadcell paddle for just 70€. While not a true loadcell, the truebrake basically functions very similar to the asetek la prima/forte brake paddle and allow for precise braking. Especially compared to the stock logitech paddles where braking was more guesswork than anything else.
would love to see you do a 1500-2000 build video!
Noted, stay tuned 👀
Moza R5 is the go to with the suggested mods. I had both budget fanatec and moza
The moza r5 is a great starter kit “but” if you wanna upgrade to such as the moza r9 or the r12 later the srp lite pedals will not work, your better off with the moza r9 then the r5 as the starter kit
I’m on my 3rd wheelbase, a CSL DD, I wish I had this many options when I first started sim racing, but the DFGT treated me really well on NR2003 back in the day!
is there any issues so far? how long you been using the csl dd? i have heard many problems with the disconection and reliability
@@ZhexPaBLo truthfully? I haven’t had any issues. Use it for PC, PS4, and Xbox with a drivehub. It’s been great!!! I’d love to answer any questions you might have about it!
Would you recommend the R3 MOZA Xbox bundle as a first wheel? I want to have a direct drive wheel and I don’t want to cheap out on the Logitech wheel, or would you recommend the T248?
i bought the csl mclaren elite bundle at blackfriday for 600€ and i couldn't be happier. for everyone if you can wait just wait for the blackfriday and get you'r fav wheelbase
Just today I purchased the Playseat Challenge X (new) and Logitech G923 (manufacturer refurbished) w/ shifter (new) for under $600 which will pair with my existing Xbox One. I also picked up a used copy of Forza Motorsport 7 for $35. Looking forward to getting into the hobby with my first setup.
Sounds like a blast! Let me know your thoughts on it when it’s all set up 🤝
sp just a quick question im looking for the fanatac formula v2.5 for my pc but its sold out atm is it worth waiting to get the xbox series on march 21 or to get another wheel in the same budget?
I use my moza r5 bundle on ps5. Just need the ras1lution2 converter. Works great on gt7 and f1 2023.
If you have $500, and are looking to get into sim racing, the only thing I can say is stay away from Thrustmaster. They have terrible customer service, and they don't support their products AT ALL after they launch. They haven't released a single update for the T248 since it came out. The little screen on the wheel was also supposed to be updated to inlcude more games over time, that never happened. Just don't buy Thrustmaster. Even if you have to save a little longer to afford something else. You'll thank yourself in the long run. The T248 itself isn't a bad wheel, and the pedals are fantastic, you're just not getting anything but the wheel and pedals
Thrustmaster is known for making a few good things. I like their new affordable shifter more than logitechs, they also have cool collabs with Sparco. However, as you mentioned they haven’t released anything ground breaking in the last few years and their new offerings (T248 and even their T818) does seem to lack far behind what the competition is putting out. Thanks for the comment.
@@OCRacing The shifter looks fine sure, but there's no point in getting it really, when you can get 3rd party ones for about the same price. I'm glad they released a cheaper one for people who want to stay in the ecosystem. Cuz the TH8A was and still is way over priced. If had the money and the space, I'd go direct drive at this point. Although, when I first got into sim racing, affordable and direct drive didn't go in the same sentence lmao
I bought a t150pro years ago and use it to this day, but I guess that's a pretty rare case sadly
Why not recommend the T300 RS GT instead of the G29 , to me it doesn't make sense since they can be found often for similar prices
I wish there was an easy way to test different systems. I've been looking for a sim setup with three pedals and a shifter, so that I could try to see if my hand works with a shifter anymore. Just hard to find reliable info how much one should invest, since I know the G920 isn't an option. Things have changed a lot since the last time I had wheel set (Microsoft force feedback wheel).
I'm loooking at T300 RS GT and Moza R5 bundle. Which do you think is better for me? I'm a total beginner and I'll use it mostly on Forza Horizon 5 and AC. BTW the Moza here is $250 more expensive than the T300 RS GT. Thanks in Advance.
So fanatec or moza? I just cant decide (tho im more biased zo the monza one because the rep it has from friends)
You should do one of these about upgrading from entry level to mid range
I will, thanks 🤝
If availability or compatibility isn't an issue, what would be your favorite pick out of the 3 setups?
would you recommend a pxn v99 as a beginner wheel
Is a t300 and a th8A good for 500 or should i not get the shifter
When is the fanatec vs simagic shifter vid coming out?
How about I want to try some racing for the first time with maybe the last generation of console?
Did Fanatec fix their supply issues though?
I started with the T300, then T-GT and after Thrustmaster I went to Fanatec with the 8nm DD Pro and now on DD Plus. I hope I stop now with upgrading, it costs allot by now 😂
🤣🤣🤣
for those having potato PC or ultra book
GT legend/GTR2 and Live or Speed runs good on low end hardware
I'm doing it on my Surface pro 8 8gb
Watching many you tube videos a person looking to just enter sim racing is steered down the path believing they need to spend big dollars on gear to have a good experience.
I raced multiple years with a G29, then upgraded to Fanatec csl elite level gear on a wheelstand and finally to a full rig with Fanatec DD and clubsport pedals which if you listen to many that is not good enough.
Got burnt out and sold the rig and DD and clubsport pedals.
I will say for the average guy even something like g29 or t-300 wheelbase and wheel with a decent set of pedals with a load cell brake can offer years of fun racing and the average racer will not notice enough difference in their lap times to justify spending a couple of thousand dollars to play a video racing game!
I have been about two years since I quit racing and have been thinking about maybe getting back into it more casually and I do still have my Fanatec CSL gear with it original playstation wheel and a McLaren GT wheel and even my G29 in its original box which I kept that stuff as backup gear which I may pull out once again.
But it is easy for a new person to be convinced before they start they need the latest gear to have fun and that is not true.
Should’ve mentioned second hand (I don’t recall that at least) and the t300 (same here)
Realistically, this budget/affordable recommendations are for 1st world countries 😂. Where I live a G920 can be considered a really expensive luxury.
The Moza R5 bundle is $1000 dollars in my country. The G920 is about $300.
Hey, quick question. Why do you suggest the g29/920 over the G923? Is it because of price or performance?
Price. The G923 has the same performance and only introduces TrueForce vibrations which to me, isn’t worth the near double price tag.
Hey Oscar, just hitting the like button.🙂👍
Hey Ed, I appreciate it :)
5:20 Where can I find these mods for the Logi 920 and 29?
i got a fanatec csl dd bundle and build myself a wooden simrig
Awesome, that’s exactly my third recommendation 🤣
I was thinking about getting the cammus C5 for my first wheel bundle because of the price and it still gives that 5nm of DD
It's a great wheel, i considered it myself, probably more around the 8nm level of ffb as for some reason cammus lists an average number rather than peak value like everyone else.
The down sides are the shipping costs (if you're buying direct from cammus) plus the cost of the desk clamp and the pedals are extremely basic.
I have the Cammus C5 and it is really good. I would buy the new C12 if I could.
C5 is $269 at wallmart and the bundle is $349.
Very affordable.
Is ferrari sf1000 compatible with PS5?
Looking at Equipment prices when I first started my build I almost cried 😭
Unfortunately that’s the hard reality 😭 this is an expensive hobby, thankfully there are at least some budget conscious choices
i’ve had the logitech G920 here for just about a month and I feel like I’ve already outgrown it. it was all experimental and in the last month I purchased an inexpensive rig to mount my screen, pedals and wheel to.
I am a month new to Sim racing, so I am looking to get into the Moza racing or Fanatec ecosystem …I’m at a crossroads Between the fanatec CSLDD bundle or the Moza R3 bundle for Xbox capabilities …. Any suggestions on which would be the better ecosystem.
Depends, are you mostly a PC or console sim racer? Both?
@@OCRacing console, Xbox series s to be exact. I love the look of the McLaren gt3 wheel bundle but I’ve just heard too many horror stories online about the Customer Service and even major delays on shipment date as far back as Black Friday. I’ve heard nothing but things about Moza, excited to see that they released the Xbox compatible R3 bundle with (3.9nm)….. so that’s the crossroads im debating with at the moment.
@@Trampy_Pegasus So here are my thoughts on it:
From my understanding (and experience) with Fanatec, the shipping delays and logistical nightmares seem to only apply to products that went on sale in November during the black friday sales. Essentially, they oversold and couldn't keep up with demand. As such, a bunch of those products (that went on the crazy sales) have had a hard time getting to consumers.
Other Fanatec products tend to still be fine. I know this because I purchased a CSL DD Boost Kit and it arrived within 2 weeks.
The Moza R3 I've also heard good things about. However, availability on it is a problem. In fact, I've had one for around 4+ months now but Moza themselves told me to not release any content on it. The reason is because they're still in talks with Microsoft regarding the licensing and aren't ready to publicly release it quite yet. As such, it's been marked as out of stock on their website for months and reviewers like myself haven't been able to make any content on it. Those reviews that you see online were made before the restrictions were placed by Moza/Microsoft.
As such, if you want the R3, you may have to wait a bit.
All in all, what I'm saying is that if you're debating between the two, I think the CSL DD is the better bet. For starters, it starts at 5nm of force, more than Moza's. Secondly, it can be heavily upgraded (force, pedals, wheels, etc.) whereas you'll be stuck with ~3nm with Moza. And finally, with regards to shipping and logistics concerns, you shouldn't have any problem with that product. I also have used the CSL DD for a very long time and I've always been very happy with it.
Either way, both are good but those are just my 2 cents. Anyways, now I should keep paying attention to class lol
@@OCRacing You make great points. I 100% agree with you…. Thanks for taking the time to respond.
I will be ordering my CSL DD bundle today. Also I really enjoy your content.
Awesome! Feel free to use my affiliate links, it helps me out at no extra cost to you :)
i am scared of fanatec, mostly for the reliability issues, is there still this problem on 2024 csl dd?
From my experience fanatec is actually one of the better ones when it comes to reliability, I’ve personally never had a problem with them
Camus c5?
Genuine question... I have just started sim racing. What benefits do you get from wearing gloves? Is it for grip? I find my grip is fine without is all so I'm just curious! Thanks.
In my case, it is for branding purposes as it features my logo on screen for a big part of the video. However, people mainly use gloves to protect their sim racing wheels (especially those made from Alcantara or Suede) as those materials wear out and begin to look bad due to the natural sweat and oils your hand releases over time.
@@OCRacing That makes sense, thanks for the response!
WOW, talking about perfect timing
Haha, I always know.
Yo Oscar! Did you see the Turtle Beach DD yet? Probably the best dd bundle on the market when it releases
I did! I'll try my best to get a review out of it
@@OCRacingYooooo, that‘s cool! Appreciate the effort, keep the grind going❤🔥
I have a T300RS, which is my 3rd Thrustmaster wheel/pedal combo since the mid 90s (and yes, that's showing my age, lol) out of 4 total. My second one was a Logitech in 2000, but I wasn't a fan of how plastic and cheap feeling it was made. But as much as I am not a fan of Logitech, I cringe when I hear the name Fanatec! It makes me remember decades ago when Apple iPods were the big "need to have product", and then it was the Apple iPhone, and now Fanatec is all I hear. But with how bad their service is with over-selling and can't ship on time, and poor customer service and feedback, I would rather save up for twice as long, continue using my current setup, and wait until I have the budget to buy a higher end unit from a company that at least appears to care about their customers!
Wow, you’ve had quite a few 😅 I keep hearing good things about the T300rs, interestingly though they seem to slightly creep up in value from what I see
@@OCRacing I was lucky enough to find a used T300RS with the T3PA-Pro pedals that I have inverted, from a sim racing enthusiast that upgraded the fan already.
But my first was a Thrustmaster Formula T1 (which I still habe one a shelf) in the mid 90s playing Papyrus Indycar Racing and Papyrus NASCAR Racing. Then it developed a pull, and I wanted FFB, so I got a new Logitech Wingman Formula Force (which I just sold in a yard sale about 2-1/2 years ago). Took about 20 years hiatus, got back into it about 3 years ago and got a used Thrustmaster Ferrari Wireless GT Cockpit 430 Scuderia Edition, just for the portability as I had no space at the time. Then my girlfriend and I re-organized our collectors room, added his and hers desks, our 3D printer, and I got a GT Omega CLassic wheel stand, TH8A shifter, TSS handbrake, triple monitors VR headset, and a new gaming PC. Still don't have room for a full one-piece rig, but eventually when one of our kids move out, I plan on making one of their rooms into a sim racing den, with an amazing rig!
So is 1 or 2 better?
So basiclly i want to start with sim racing. Actually, only wish is to play F1 as i am huge F1 fan. Thing is that i do not know which wheel to buy. Im ready to spend 500-700€(since i know i love racing for so many years and i will not give up from it) just to buy wheel for F1 which will have all the things i need to have great fun, have as realistic as possible expirience and to be able to play it competitivly(if i will be good enough). Any suggestion will be great and will be thankfull.
Sure, for starters, are you going to be playing on PC, Xbox, or PlayStation?
@@OCRacing PC
@@Kikach-ty8fw So in terms of an option for PC and F1-style driving, you are going to have quite a bit of options. I think that if you're looking for something that is NOT too expensive but also perfect for F1-style racing, I would recommend the following:
fanatec.com/us-en/ready2race/csl-dd-f1-esports-starter-kit-for-pc?_gl=1*7u6kpc*_up*MQ..*_ga*OTE3NTk2NjI1LjE3MDc5NDg1MTU.*_ga_Q6VYC4JPVE*MTcwNzk0ODUxNC4xLjEuMTcwNzk0ODUyMC4wLjAuMA..?FAP+Banner&OCRacing&General+Links&a_aid=OCRacing
It gives you an F1-style wheel (in-fact with official F1 licensing) a direct drive wheelbase which can be upgraded to 8nm of force down the line and a decent set of pedals for f1 racing which can also be heavily upgraded. If you're interested in hearing my thoughts on that sterring wheel, watch my dedicated review here: th-cam.com/video/_0z0VeVsRYQ/w-d-xo.html&ab_channel=OCRacing
Let me know your thoughts!
@@OCRacing i kinda dont like it, it looks really weird to me. Even tho i belive it is great wheel, i want to feel satisfied when i bought it so i just want to search a little bit more to make sure i bought the right one
TX Leather Edition or T300 RS and you're done. Last for years if you take care of them.
So I actually semi-disagree with this. Although I know the T300RS is a good package (because I used to own it) nowadays, they along with the TX leather edition retail for right around $450-500 on Amazon. At that price point, you can get far newer technology with the Moza R5 and Fanatec CSL as well as have several upgrade options with loadcell brake pedals, boost kits, and far more wheel rims available. All this at around the same price as a new Thrustmaster T300rs offering.
The only case where the T300rs would make sense would be if you buy it used for $300 or less or if you need a PlayStation wheel but can't stretch your budget to get to the GT DD Pro from Fanatec.
Let me know if you agree/disagree.
@@OCRacing I never used a direct drive wheel before or load cell pedals. I picked up a brand new TX Leather Edition after I graduated highschool for $450 over 2 years ago and it still works perfectly. The biggest complaint I hear is overheating which I never had an issue with because after I'm done racing I let it cool down for 20 mins or longer. I would love to get a direct drive for PlayStation 5 for GT7 but I can find any online for under $500.
Sadly in my country the first and third option costs at least 700 bucks. And almost nonexistent 2nd hand market. People do keep their g29 for years.
But even 500 is a bit of a tough ask for me. So I'll just look at y'all shiny stuff 👍
Nope, I can't think of a universe where a second hand t300rs gt can't be recommended over a g29. I got a t300 today and had a g29 for four years, I haven't even ironed out the settings for it yet and no chance NEVER not at all is there a reason to get a logitech
T300RS ?
I hate how the csl dd is so overpriced on the used market here. The ready to race bundle with base, rim and pedals costs new 399€, and people are trying to sell just their bases at over 300€ used. Thats stupid...
It's advertised at 399 euros yes. But you have to add VAT 21% or whatever the rate in your country id. +60 euros of shipping from Switzerland. 300 euro would be a steal for second hand.
@@Eklund1984 399€ is including VAT. VAT is always included in the advertised price in the EU. But still: Rim, base, pedals, new with waranty, 399€. Base, used, nothing else, no rim, no pedals, 300€. Thats a steal in your book?
Can you compare iracing to acc
Good idea, I’ll keep it in mind
iRacing is better but costs a lot more
boom done
@@Blown_enginesolved
challenge x by Logitech do a full setup for £505
yikes on the ad for next levbel racing the rig costs more than the logitech g29 youc can get better rigs much cheaper than next level racing
Claim your early ticket here
He is BACK.
@@OCRacing yh I didn't get notifications for last vid sadly
We here
At last
Wasn’t early but I claimed anyway
how do you have such a long thumb bro
I would say my thumb is pretty average actually
Yea $500 is not lasting long lol good vid oc!
Thanks 🤣
man these wheels are so expensive fml
And these are some of the more affordable ones 😭
Please do not recommend people the Logitech G29 wheel, please it's 2024. Please for fucks sake. I remember buying it as a kid, I always wanted it, the first day I tried it, I wanted to get rid of it it's that bad. If you're reading this comment, please do not buy it, it's waste of money, and you'll want to upgrade it the next day/week, or month.
How to save 10 minutes = DFGT wheel: ≈ $120, T3PM petals: ≈ $130, TH8S H pattern shifter: ≈ $80/ SHH H pattern shifter: ≈ $100 Total: ≈ $350.
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ahh man😂@@OCRacing
Anyone recommending the G29 is a shit recommendation.
Imagine having $500 to spend on video game peripherals
People spend $500 on a lot of hobbies, photography, fashion, watches, art, shoes. To each their own 🤷♂️
Fanatec, worst company in sim racing. Feel obligated to post this on every video.
But why tho lol
FINALLY - and with that a video i can share to people asking me.. the reason. you ACTUALLY suggested people build a rig. If you are new and on a budget BUILD YOUR OWN RIG. if you can afford a rig then 100% do it but if you are price shopping and watching all the budget stuff then you my friend need to build your rig and take that money and buy better wheel motor/pedals. if you have a branded rig and the cheapest tier wheels i always go welllll.... if you look at me share a picture of a full profile rig and say i cant afford triples i say wellllllll...... if you show me 70 series plus card and 5 squared feet to work with you can build a full triple or vr cockpit for under $250 that will outlast most peoples sim phase haha. so YE WELL cool looking gear is nice. but to not participate because u need the nice looking stuff is laughable. you will have life lessons to learn.
Do what you like with what you can,
Once you can afford to do it better, upgrade. And by then you will also be better at that thing.
Now you can look good while being good. And not just a kid who buys the best with someone elses money and gets bored of it and moves one (met enough of these people to know it happens in every sport / hobby)
OC - good job, ive liked watching your content mature and help build to a younger audience, keep it up
I just did a video showing mine for this reason haha