Facts, I’m thinking a 3k sim rig is much better long term then buying a car, trailer, insurance, fuel, maintenance. I wanna drive fast and do it comfortably!
@@khdogsI'd say for me its temporary till I get a used cayman slap some good tires,brake pads and all theres left via nurburgring and other eu tracks .you dont need to race in a race to race .
From someone who drives fast in Real Life parts aren't cheap but also cant beat the Real Life Adrenaline. Im still looking to get into Sim Racing also looks Fun specially that VR2 IN GT7
Re point 1, it's expensive, one day at a track day will cost more than the total of the gear if you really beat on a car, then you will need to renew the tyres, new brake pads/disc, engine oil, brake fluid and the entry fee.. then the urge of needing to go again.. and you make a mistake, there's no reset button, it will cost loads.
Your math isn't mathing for me. For cars such as 86 or Miata a track day costs ~$1k (including consumables and maintenance), which is less than an intermediate level sim rig.
@@TimurIskhodzhanov He said if you really beat on a car. Sure, one day might not exactly cost as much as a rig.. but several certainly will, and car will not be better after each one.
Getting into sim racing does not need to be that expensive. I spent 100€ on second hand g29 setup (wheel, pedals, shifter) and 4€ on asetto corsa from kinguin. Totally happy learning the basics with this setup and trying out if this is something I want to invest more time and money into. If I notice my self not enjoying the experience I can just resell the setup with little to no money lost.
Also this guy talk about more than just the wheel and game, the console or pc, the rig the wheel and pedals attach to, a good monitor or tv, hell I’d even go more to say shoes and gloves, beginners with a Logitech wheel and cheap game and cheap Xbox and cheap tv and a cheap second hand play seat will set you all together back like 700
I started sim racing last December.on an XBox one x. With a Thrustmaster TX/T300 with basic pedals. Bolted to a cheap eBay wheel stand. And an ikea chair. In front of my living room tv. That changed very quickly now I’m in for over £5k. Mid range PC,profile rig, proper bucket seat, 16nm DD wheel base. Load cell pedals. Sequential shifter hand break, haptic feed back in the seat etc. I’m totally addicted to it lol. Iv always loved motorsport, now I can kind of get a taste of what it like. Although sim racing can be approached with a small budget,and still be really fun. It can also get very expensive very fast. I’d say buy the best gear you can afford, and have fun. 👍🏻👍🏻
I think almost all of this would apply to flight sims as well. I have an itch to do some sim racing and combat flight simming. I've concluded that what I want is more a simcade (new word I learned here) experience on a console. I used to do sim racing many years ago, but modern simming requires a LOT of time if you want to be competitive.
Exactly. The sim rig I'm building will be used for both racing and flying, but I don't want to do anything competitive. I just want to drive and fly around like a maniac, lol. I'm hoping Beam NG turns out to be as much fun as it looks like it is.
Regarding #5, imo you should also have mentioned desk setups and not only rigs. Assuming someone starts from 0, without a pc, desk, monitors, ok, you of course need all that stuff, but I could imagine most people who start sim racing already have played other games, so already have a "gaming space" they could also turn into a desk setup for sim racing. Maybe could have been mentioned as the "tight on space" variant. Overall good video tho
My simracing hobby started back in 1985 and will last to the end of my days. Just on my 3rd just above entry level simrig since 1999 and $/time ratio is extremely low. At present mostly at this setup: T300RS-GT + T-LCM + 2xT8HA + flexible NLR F-GT Lite. Often questioned why I don't spend more, having borrowed much more expensive equipment on more occasions. Answer is I'm having a fun, cozy and extremely pleasant time every single time with my relatively cheap mainstream rig. Main reason is I relax, feels like my blood pressure lowers, my heart beat turns down, getting in the zone of extreme pleasure feeling. And by that way I can hardly be grumpy when somethimg unfair happens. Just laughing of the bizarre situations sending me off when it happens. And then onwards to next enjoyable moment. Life is too short to get bothered. And now into my spine that thr obstacle situations is part of racing and is best delt with by emtracing it. Just like life itself.
Rule of thumb, if you don't already have a PC don't go overboard on your rig. Fanatec DD Pro would be the highest I'd go if you don't plan on building a PC. It's also a good stepping stone just in case you do think about going the PC route in the future. All the things you buy for it will work with higher end products like the DD1/2.
sorry but just avoid fanatec in my opinion. awful customer service. you might be alright and the gear works out but they're known for not being entirely reliable
I agree with you. I bought a DD Pro and was very happy with it, but Fanatec's customer and after-sales experience was awful. I bought a Logitech G Pro as insurance (and relegated the Fanatec to my second rig). The two wheels have PC and console compatibility, and are therefore great choices for anyone dipping their toes into the direct drive market.
@@mannyfresh7065I love my Logi. It IS big, but it's not a problem for me, as I race in VR. The lack of other wheels and peripherals are also an issue for some, but again, it doesn't affect me. Trueforce is amazing, FFB is also fantastic. Pedals are good, but their adjustability is a very underrated feature. The DD Pro is also good, but a generation behind IMO, and enough has already been said about Fanatec's aftersales 'experience' already 😊
I bought a g920 just because of well how everybody hade one and says it’s a good entry wheel wich it definitely will do the job just the main thing I can recommend is to save a little bit more money get the cls dd ready to race bundle and slowly upgrade it with the loadcell kit and beter steering wheels and what ever you do don’t get the Logitech shifter the shh newt 2 is so much beter and isn’t that much more expinsive .
Yep that's what I've done with my new Moza rig well over a thousand dollars later I still need a new cockpit or stand the one I have it on now does not cut it but it's still works better than a g29
I don't agree on it being expensive, especially not being mentioned this often. It goes as far as you want and you can do it with a rather old PC and an old wheel setup at your desk. You make it sound extremely snobbish. I also have a trackday car, that costs me thousands a year in tyres, fuel, brakes, entry costs, maintenance. I have a decent PC and I have used 2 Logitech wheels over about 20 years. I now bought a Moza setup and rig, that still only set me back less than 2k. Thats 2 tyre changes and a brake job on my car (which is even on the cheap side of things). Entering a track day here costs a minimum of 200 Euros per event and most almost double that.
As someone who likes playing gt7 its kinda annoying that there's no competition for the cheap console dd market. All we have is the csl dd. Moza would definitely make a decent bit more money if they added console compatibility since at that price range particularly gt7 compatibility is something people will consider.
@@neblolthecarnerdACC? AC? Project Cars 2? F1 2023? The upcoming WRC? I know a couple of the above aren't as good as their PC counterparts but hopefully some of those pique your interest. First three of the above dirt cheap too if you shop around.
This is a VERY expensive hobby...but listening to folks who actually know what they're doing (yes, even you Oscar 😂) can help quite a bit. I'm currently using my first DD wheel (I was a Thrustmaster T-300 guy for years), but I did it by being patient and waiting for the sale of the year: Fanatec CSL DD. I'm a PC racer, so the standard version was enough for me and I went for the BMW livery as it was as cheap as the standard wheel version. I use a cheap-ish Amazon steel wheel stand that folds up and that has a pretty cool attachment that allows for a racing/office chair to pop into it and hold it solid and it works great! This allows for a more compact setup which I need. It all works well together. I'm more into dirt rallying, and sometimes I just wanna have fun (Forza series for this old guy). Full on racing games, like AC, IRacing, etc. gives me hives sometimes...I actually hate not the games but too many of the folks who play them. Nothing ruins a game more than the other idiots who play it, for real. Great tips, Oscar, more folks need to know them BEFORE they buy a Logitech and curse it after using it for a few minutes 😂
expensive? i only spent £2000 for the whole lot and that includes load cell sprint pedels, Next level wheelstand 2, 15nm DD wheelbase with a GT/F1 wheel!
@@jonneymendoza debatable. Depends on what you consider normal income. Especially in other countries where income is lower. I don't know many adults myself that can drop 2k on a hobby. That much disposable income seems like a middle-upper middle class thing. Not to mention that I'd you don't have one you'll probably have to drop another 1-2k on a pc
I just got the thrustmaster t128 and a steering wheel stand (no space for seat setup), as I'll be playing casually on ps5 and not too heavy sim racing (games like crew 2, nfs unbound/heat, grid legends, dirt 5 and some farming simulator).
I don't have much spare time or money, so I bought a used wheel with table clamp, and pedals with carpet spikes. I like the driving to be pretty realistic but get straight into racing without too much faffing about so simcade is ideal. I started on some old Gran Turismo games but found out that even a pathetic non-gaming PC can run old games like Assetto Corsa, Richard Burns Rally, Live For Speed etc. My FFB wheel must be about as basic as they get, but without ever having tried a direct drive etc, I am blissfully unaware of the difference.
Another tip is, If you have a bro (literal or close friend) lives close to you, share the expenses. And share the system. I bought PS5 with my brother by sharing ( since I'm only playing exclusives). And we just agreed upon buying a fanatec system. Since this is a hobby like mountain bike, trekking. I will not devote myself to any specific hobby. but we will just chill by playing Sim racing either his or mine house (max. 30 min. Distance). Another excuse for playing games like old times. That'll probably will change after we both marry though.😅 Aince then.. race is on.
Fanatec‘s customer service is „sheet“, but the items are great and user friendly. The entry costs for a fanatec setup is great. Just make sure you make some research before buy and upgrade. My recommendation: choose the prefered wheel you wish before you order!
I'm really surprised more sim racing people don't use VR. Do the popular games not support it? I only play Dirt Rally 2.0. Personally I find the addition of depth perception utterly game changing and I can't imagine wanting to ever play on any kind of monitor setup again. I went from being totally useless on just about any technical stage to nailing hairpins regularly. I am still (for now) using my 20 year old Logitech wheel which is so old the force-feedback is no longer supported by drivers. Aside from being a much better driving experience because you can truly perceive the corners as they approach, VR is going to do way more for your immersion than a fake cockpit. It doesn't matter (for pure immersion at least) that your wheel is a cheap piece of plastic clamped to a desk because all you see is the interior of your car with your co-driver and everything. It really starts to feel like the gloved hands on the wheel are yours. If you combined it with a good force-feedback solution and one of those fancy moving rigs it would be absolutely insanely real feeling, really only lacking proper G-forces. I think money for a rig and monitors is much more wisely invested in a good VR solution, again unless the game you want to play simply doesn't support it. But my experience at least is that once you experience racing in VR you will just stop playing games that don't support it. It's that much better. Another major bonus is that the VR can be used for many other awesome kinds of games as well, not just racing.
IF you can actually race/fly in VR without getting sick. It's a pretty big risk buying a VR setup for a bunch of cash only to find out that it makes you nauseous every time you use it, thus becoming a glorified doorstop.
Yeah that's true I forget how lucky I am not to experience that. I guess it's something you would definitely want to try before you buy.@@karlhungus545
@@karlhungus545that's true but with the price of Quest 2 now and the fact that you could go to a VR arcade to try VR. There are ways to see if you might like it before purchasing anything
@JoshuaKnab IF you have a VR arcade anywhere near you maybe. Every one of them I was going to try ends up going out of business before I get there. The closest one to me now is over 700km away, and they never have the games I'd be interested in (DCS, IL2, racing games).
Everything i have ive bought over years so it didnt really seem that expensive however thinking about it now i have spent a lot of money overall best advice really is just dont rush and buy it all at once aslong as you have your steering wheel everything else can be bought in time
I bought an entire set up after a life time of racing with a controller and I just use the set up to cruise on horizon because I am unable to race with a wheel, I'm actually quite alright with that, cruising horizon is like driving my real car which I do all the time
Things I wish I’d known: playing what is fun is way more important than playing what people consider the most realistic. I know there can be overlap for some people, but this isn’t always the case. I never would have bought a curved monitor for my rig if I’d experienced VR first. There’s really no comparison in terms of immersion, at least on my budget. I don’t have 20k to drop on a rig.
I am checking out Project Cars 2. Frankly, tired of hearing I have to invest in a wheel and other hardware, just to see if I like "sim". Even a couple of hundred dollars is not chump change to me. I found controller settings for PC2, and checking out the genre using PC2 career mode. Using career mode, I can adjust the AI both for my skill level, and using a controller. I likely will only ever race AIs, no multi-player. Am I out of whack in this process?
I'm planning on doing the same. I just became interested in the racing genre, but I'm not about to spend upwards of $100 just to see if I really like it
I have a question, like i'm a beginner in sim racing , beacsue of liking formula 1 , ao i brought forza horizon 5 , but after 2 hours , it was just boring .. , like really boring , si guys i ask you , what is a sim racing game that i could start with and fun (i could spend like 4 or 5 hours on without getting bored) , thankss(i have a steering wheel and pedals)
Space is a huge factor for me. I ended up getting a small heavy duty standing desk. A 34 inch ultra wide was the other good move for small space. Some people would end up with the desk set-up because they didnt want to spend the money on a rig. I didnt have a desk until I wanted to sim race. 😂
Your last point of space requirements is what is really crushing me at the moment. I purchased pretty high end controllers 15+ years ago. They’ve actually held up just fine to the present day but the wheel isn’t FFB and the manufacturer is no longer in business. “OK, I may have some money to upgrade so let’s look.” Every single modern pedal set that’s of moderately comparable quality to what I’m used to seems to require mounting in a rig. I do not have room for a rig or a wheel stand. I drive at my desk in my small office room. There is simply no floor space for a sim-specific installation. Period. I haven’t given up yet. But for the time being I’m feeling pretty crushed. It just more or less feels like I’m getting squeezed out of enjoying the hobby I’ve enjoyed for nearly two decades because…while I can afford the equipment…some of that equipment itself basically needs a house bigger than mine. Again, I’m not stating all this as facts or absolutes. It’s the impression I’m currently feeling while trying to figure out “where do I go from here” with equipment that is eventually going to need replacing. Absolutely first world problems, but it still really sucks when your facing it for the one activity you’ve enjoyed doing more than any other for the past 20 years or so.
You just need a way to brace the pedals against the wall or against the desk, etc. I race at a corner desk that has a section in the middle. I wanted my pedals higher so I built a wood stand and mounted the pedals to that. I did just have them on the floor at one point. Simforge, Fanatec, Moza all have pedals that have some level of adjustment and would work. Even the Heusinkveld pedals would work. I personally prefer pedals that can either be mounted individually (Simforge, Heusinkveld) or moved from side to side.
My folf membership runs 20K per year... is sim racing more than that?? I doubt it, but it could be. I track for real, and that is way more expensive than golf, at least where i live, but thinking of getting into sim. was planning on 10k for my first setup, sound ok??
I wish I knew 2 things before I got in sim racing. Which wheel base was right for me. I ended up getting 5 different wheel bases over the course of 6 years. T-150, T-300rs, and DD pro for console, and Accuforce V2, Simucube Pro 2 for PC. It was trial-&-error for me, and when I first got into it a lot of direct-drive weren't available like they are now. Also for pc I ran a teiple monitor setup. Make sure you know what monitors will work with your video card! Lol
@@OCRacing LMAO yeah, been through a lot. A lot of wheels too! I was trying to cut cost, and buy decent products for a lesser price. WORD TO THE WISE. In the long run though, for something like this, it's best to just go with a great product for a little more money.
Today i bought the Thrustmaster T300 Ferrari Integral Alcantara Edition, tomorrow i will receive my playseat ( Fourze racing seat). Can't wait for it ! EDIT: This is epic! Already 2.5 sec faster without gamepad 🔥🔥
@@tuff77777 the Ferrari wheel is great, but i guess DD is better ( never used that one before tho) but again the Ferrari wheel feels great and the force feedback is also good with some tweaking here and there. Oh and sorry for the late response
@@elite_e30 do you still like it after 1 month?? I wanted the same in the beginning but i wanted something more robust and a playseat to put my tv screen on 😬 Iam a little disappointed in the racing seat because the chair is not the best to sit on for a long time but i can replace it for a real car chair so thats the only thing i dont like about it
Would you please do a video (or comment) on the best compatible equipment (wheel, shifter, handbrake) for PC? I am going to build my own cockpit and PC dedicated for the rig, but I dont want to spend 500+ on a wheel alone either. Mostly looking at Asseta Corsa, but idk what other games are best for realism.
O have a pc Sony Ryzen 7 7800x3d and a amd graphics card equivalente to 4070ti i don’T know the model.. i’m looking for vr because of the space.. What do you recomend? Im going for a r9 bundle
I love sim racing but I'm not sure if the price for the fanatec CSL DD Ready2Race McLaren Bundle is worth the price (I am a kid and I don't want do force my parents to buy me stuff I won't use.
Honestly... I think PS5 with the PSVR2 and a G29 wheel and pedal is very immersive and fun. Granted only GT7 has VR its good enough for a casual gamer who wants immersion.
I already have a beefy pc. I9, RTX 2080Ti EVGA FTW3, an ultrawide 32 inch monitor, etc... but now I need my first ever wheel and my country's very limited in what they have to offer. Most shops only have either the G29 or the T300. No DD which is sad.... might go for the T300 just to give it a try. But asking €400 for something old as trash, aint worth it.
I'm building one myself soon. 3 42" TV's should give me the FOV if VR headsets doesn't start showing up or drastically lowers in price. I am most likely to learn how to weld the frame, and for the motion-rig system I am going with an idea I haven't seen some before. If u wanna race EA CodeMasters WRC some, .. Aka Sir Rally 3.0 😊 Or Assetto Corsa Conpetitzione, Automobilista (under appreciated)
I went ahead and bought a Logitech pro wheel and pedal set with a FGT elite 160 and also bought the psvr2. So happy I just bought the right stuff from the jump and won’t be looking to upgrade unless new wheels come out ;)
$1000 gaming pc $230 monitor $330 cockpit $300 pedals $600 wheel Im at $2460 and my rig is a budget rig for sure, I don’t know where you got your 200-600 dollar budget number from
I am currenrly looking into starting this ive already saved up 46€ and am going on. I dont really want to spend more than 200€ but i want a wheel with 3 pedals and a shifter wich is really hard to find. I mabey could do 280. But i come from a mid-low class family. Do you guy have any suggestions? (I have a ps4)
most people already have either a PC or console. I have both but prefer playing on console... too many cheaters on PC compared to console. I play PC2, GT7, F1 2023, AC, ACC and Dirt Rally on either my Playstation. I purchased a cheap Thrustmaster T150 and a playseat challenge that I can fold up and put away when not in use. This was quite cheap to setup and I have been happy using this for years. Racing is only an expensive hobby if you have to have the latest and greatest setup.
That depends on how much you enjoy it. A sit down rig really adds to the immersion. I gave my G29 to my son and bought a G pro DD wheel. Mounted on an Omega Gt sim rig. I really enjoy sim racing. Mostly in VR.
Man i used a g29 and shifter with a cheap $70 wheel stand for 3 years i just upgraded to a full moza setup with clutch pedal cs wheel and hgp shifter and the hand brake now i just gotta upgradey wheel stand to something better im thinking next level WS 2.0 it looks like a tank probably the best wheel stand on the market i love the floor tray that holds the chair in place that's there biggest problem with what i got now especially when braking and the dd wheel base tries to throw the stand around i have to ratchet strap it to my desk
No mention of the Nintendo Switch Joycon steering wheel accessory, can this video really be considered a comprehensive look at the sim racing landscape?
Is there a league that I can get in , I have console do acc and forza Motorsport, Trying to avoid the random joystick player every 3 sec that you get creamed by and having 15nm go wild😅 as much as I can
i live in brazil, and here a logitech g29 is 1800 bucks (our minimum wage is 1400) so i dont really have conditions to buy a better wheel, so i have to live with what i get
I been looking into getting a racing wheel I play gt7 on playstation and forza motorsport on my pc but not sure what wheel to get iv been looking at videos on here and seeing recommendations and most recommend the t300 and logitech g27 and a few others but can't decide what to go with
I wish I could have tried it before buying. It’s not fun either having ai take you out every race or another person doing the same thing. Bumping is one thing but they destroy you and ruin your race. Time trials are just boring so I don’t see the point. It’s not the slightest bit realistic
i see so many people that they say must have direct drive. We played so many years with g25. We had such a good times with it. From controller to g series logitechs is a big jump, but i don't think that direct drive affects huge for better driving, maybe more fun. I'd go with cheap G series logitech (200 $) and seat (150 $), if possible VR too (500 $) instead of paying 600-1000 dollars to a steering wheel. Of course if you have so much money, nothing stops you :)
Pc all the way, I’ve saved so much money on building my own setup with generic solid items and custom made steering wheels which I piece together through different products available. I love it. F the consoles
I built a desk setup and im having 10000% fun with my logitech g920 or something like that😂 actually never enjoyed racing this much.. do what you love people.. ❤
I started with a cheaper wheel and F1 games and NASCAR games to get the more arcade/simcade vibes until I was comfortable enough to upgrade to iracing and eventually upgrade my wheel and pedals
I'm over 20k Invested 2 motion rigs working on selling one. But I'm hesitant on joining iracing because of the investment it can be but it's nearly impossible to find online multiplayer racing on assetto Coarsa comp and project cars 3. Can anyone name a sim/arcade racing experience with others that's not iracing?
Depends on which Gran Turismo, I think. Early ones like 1-4 I would think are simcade. 5 and 6 try to clean that up. And if Sony ever got smart and released GT7 for PC with universal wheel support and triple-monitor support, they’d probably make a LOT of money from the PC racing sim community.
im going for csl dd 5nm, mclaren gt3 wheel and mounting it on on my ikea desk, fuck it, im not going to spend much more than 500€, if i was to get "the next thing" i'd easily spend 1000€ which is out of my budget, i can always buy upgrades down the line (not going to for a few yrs, hope so)
Im getting G29 for the boy on ps4 and i just picked up the g920 for my pc (on offer) He's 10 and im more forza than F1. Anyone know a good cross platform game that is casual and good for learning the ropes in sim racing?
Hey everyone so I’m now getting into sim racing I would appreciate it if someone give me a few tips. Should I go P.C. or console? Also looking to buy that Ferrari steering wheel and for pedals the logictech pedals. As for the cockpit I’m thinking about the next level cockpit I forgot the full name of it lol but it cost 900 bucks Damm but it’s like for serious players and I really like it. No I’m Not rich I’m just goin to save up for it so any advice or tips ? Appreciate it thanks.
So I have a question for anyone who has a straight answer because everytime I google it gives an ha. I have been looking into getting Fanatec CSL DD and I was wondering if I get a PC wheelbase but an Xbox compatible wheel can I use it on PC/Xbox?
Way too 101 for me at this point but I gotta say: *_Congrats on the production._* I've worked on such as microwave multiplex systems and written tech manuals _(years of work!)_ for such as avionics / landing system, so I'm not dicking you around! Complete, comprehensive, correct ... good on yuh bud! ^5
@@OCRacing cheers p.s. oh hey, this came to mind this very moment: I had been wonder about which races on which platform were being streamed and just when ... even just the confound of YT and Twitch. How about a regular show that looks forward to the schedule? you could talk about the difference classes, the different event settings, news and views about cars and drivers and mftrs ... all while providing a real service! (Maybe two versions, one short and sweet covering the sched and the other more commentary.)
Low effort human ... you obv didn't even try .. also I still finish the races even if people crash me .. mostly not last due to people dnf and also I get a genuine adrenaline rush and excitement when driving even now when using a controller I'm obsessed w cars too soo can't relate to you
Using a g29, if you don't want to upgrade immediately due to high costs, I suggest modding what you already have since there are a plethora of options to choose from. For me I've bought a mod for my h shifter which makes shifting feel a lot better and I bought a load cell kit for the pedals which makes braking feel better as well, while not breaking the bank. That's my suggestion at least if you don't want to buy a new setup
Honestly, consoles are kind of bad for sim racing. Not only are you limited for hardware choice, you also can't mod the games you want to play. A lot of sim titles are completely different with the recommended mods people play with.
The hobby may be expensive, but it is far cheaper than an actual race car in maintenance alone.
Facts, I’m thinking a 3k sim rig is much better long term then buying a car, trailer, insurance, fuel, maintenance. I wanna drive fast and do it comfortably!
@@khdogsI'd say for me its temporary till I get a used cayman slap some good tires,brake pads and all theres left via nurburgring and other eu tracks .you dont need to race in a race to race .
Forget the race car that's cheap in comparison to the truck and trailer. Let alone the storage.
@@khdogs and you can drunk dive legally!
From someone who drives fast in Real Life parts aren't cheap but also cant beat the Real Life Adrenaline. Im still looking to get into Sim Racing also looks Fun specially that VR2 IN GT7
Re point 1, it's expensive, one day at a track day will cost more than the total of the gear if you really beat on a car, then you will need to renew the tyres, new brake pads/disc, engine oil, brake fluid and the entry fee.. then the urge of needing to go again.. and you make a mistake, there's no reset button, it will cost loads.
lol now imagine getting into sim racing so that you can go faster on your track days. gg wallet
@@dougcao540 People actually do that.. but you know already
Your math isn't mathing for me. For cars such as 86 or Miata a track day costs ~$1k (including consumables and maintenance), which is less than an intermediate level sim rig.
@@TimurIskhodzhanov He said if you really beat on a car. Sure, one day might not exactly cost as much as a rig.. but several certainly will, and car will not be better after each one.
@@TimurIskhodzhanovthat is everytime you go? I understand the sim rig has an expensive startup cost but thats about it.
Getting into sim racing does not need to be that expensive. I spent 100€ on second hand g29 setup (wheel, pedals, shifter) and 4€ on asetto corsa from kinguin. Totally happy learning the basics with this setup and trying out if this is something I want to invest more time and money into. If I notice my self not enjoying the experience I can just resell the setup with little to no money lost.
Issue with that is, once you get into it you normally get tired of budget wheels, they're just not as fun compared to mid and high range wheels
Also this guy talk about more than just the wheel and game, the console or pc, the rig the wheel and pedals attach to, a good monitor or tv, hell I’d even go more to say shoes and gloves, beginners with a Logitech wheel and cheap game and cheap Xbox and cheap tv and a cheap second hand play seat will set you all together back like 700
I got the G29 and honestly not very satisfied with it. I want sumn with more input like a direct drive. I'm looking into a Cammus or Fanatec.
@@pain.497 yeah I didn't want to make that mistake, I went straight for the thrustmastee sf1000
I started sim racing last December.on an XBox one x. With a Thrustmaster TX/T300 with basic pedals. Bolted to a cheap eBay wheel stand. And an ikea chair. In front of my living room tv.
That changed very quickly now I’m in for over £5k. Mid range PC,profile rig, proper bucket seat, 16nm DD wheel base. Load cell pedals. Sequential shifter hand break, haptic feed back in the seat etc. I’m totally addicted to it lol. Iv always loved motorsport, now I can kind of get a taste of what it like. Although sim racing can be approached with a small budget,and still be really fun. It can also get very expensive very fast.
I’d say buy the best gear you can afford, and have fun. 👍🏻👍🏻
I think almost all of this would apply to flight sims as well. I have an itch to do some sim racing and combat flight simming. I've concluded that what I want is more a simcade (new word I learned here) experience on a console. I used to do sim racing many years ago, but modern simming requires a LOT of time if you want to be competitive.
War thunder is a decent simcade with it's Simulator battles, though not a lot of people play it sadly..
Ohhhh man making me miss air warrior 3 and ace combat xD, im just jumping back into this one shhhhhhh gimme a month 😂😅
@@rickdubbink however physics don't exist
Exactly. The sim rig I'm building will be used for both racing and flying, but I don't want to do anything competitive. I just want to drive and fly around like a maniac, lol. I'm hoping Beam NG turns out to be as much fun as it looks like it is.
@@mikefromwaBeamng is very fun, especially if you have monster pc.
Regarding #5, imo you should also have mentioned desk setups and not only rigs. Assuming someone starts from 0, without a pc, desk, monitors, ok, you of course need all that stuff, but I could imagine most people who start sim racing already have played other games, so already have a "gaming space" they could also turn into a desk setup for sim racing. Maybe could have been mentioned as the "tight on space" variant.
Overall good video tho
Yeah space is probably the buggest concern about racing
My simracing hobby started back in 1985 and will last to the end of my days.
Just on my 3rd just above entry level simrig since 1999 and $/time ratio is extremely low.
At present mostly at this setup:
T300RS-GT + T-LCM + 2xT8HA + flexible NLR F-GT Lite.
Often questioned why I don't spend more, having borrowed much more expensive equipment on more occasions.
Answer is I'm having a fun, cozy and extremely pleasant time every single time with my relatively cheap mainstream rig.
Main reason is I relax, feels like my blood pressure lowers, my heart beat turns down, getting in the zone of extreme pleasure feeling. And by that way I can hardly be grumpy when somethimg unfair happens. Just laughing of the bizarre situations sending me off when it happens. And then onwards to next enjoyable moment.
Life is too short to get bothered. And now into my spine that thr obstacle situations is part of racing and is best delt with by emtracing it.
Just like life itself.
Rule of thumb, if you don't already have a PC don't go overboard on your rig. Fanatec DD Pro would be the highest I'd go if you don't plan on building a PC. It's also a good stepping stone just in case you do think about going the PC route in the future. All the things you buy for it will work with higher end products like the DD1/2.
sorry but just avoid fanatec in my opinion. awful customer service. you might be alright and the gear works out but they're known for not being entirely reliable
I agree with you. I bought a DD Pro and was very happy with it, but Fanatec's customer and after-sales experience was awful. I bought a Logitech G Pro as insurance (and relegated the Fanatec to my second rig).
The two wheels have PC and console compatibility, and are therefore great choices for anyone dipping their toes into the direct drive market.
@@supercededmanhow do you like the Logitech pro? I was shocked actually to see so many good reviews.
@@mannyfresh7065I love my Logi. It IS big, but it's not a problem for me, as I race in VR.
The lack of other wheels and peripherals are also an issue for some, but again, it doesn't affect me.
Trueforce is amazing, FFB is also fantastic. Pedals are good, but their adjustability is a very underrated feature.
The DD Pro is also good, but a generation behind IMO, and enough has already been said about Fanatec's aftersales 'experience' already 😊
I bought a g920 just because of well how everybody hade one and says it’s a good entry wheel wich it definitely will do the job just the main thing I can recommend is to save a little bit more money get the cls dd ready to race bundle and slowly upgrade it with the loadcell kit and beter steering wheels and what ever you do don’t get the Logitech shifter the shh newt 2 is so much beter and isn’t that much more expinsive .
biggest ive learned is buy once cry once
yup
I already tried dipping my toe in with flight sim (DCS)
G923 is a great $149 wheel and pedal set. NOT for $300+
@michaeltrivette1728 I went from. G29 to moza r5 to simagic alpha mini and I'm happy with the alpha mini finally
Yep that's what I've done with my new Moza rig well over a thousand dollars later I still need a new cockpit or stand the one I have it on now does not cut it but it's still works better than a g29
I don't agree on it being expensive, especially not being mentioned this often. It goes as far as you want and you can do it with a rather old PC and an old wheel setup at your desk. You make it sound extremely snobbish.
I also have a trackday car, that costs me thousands a year in tyres, fuel, brakes, entry costs, maintenance. I have a decent PC and I have used 2 Logitech wheels over about 20 years. I now bought a Moza setup and rig, that still only set me back less than 2k. Thats 2 tyre changes and a brake job on my car (which is even on the cheap side of things).
Entering a track day here costs a minimum of 200 Euros per event and most almost double that.
As someone who likes playing gt7 its kinda annoying that there's no competition for the cheap console dd market. All we have is the csl dd. Moza would definitely make a decent bit more money if they added console compatibility since at that price range particularly gt7 compatibility is something people will consider.
@@masonboley876 kinda was asking for playstation since I would want it for gt7. Idk why they've made one for Xbox and not PS4/5
@@neblolthecarnerd As an Xbox player myself I'm extremely grateful... but I still play on controller for now lol
@@masonboley876 I'm in the privileged position of both but there isn't an Xbox game that screams wheel to me tbh.
@@neblolthecarnerdACC? AC? Project Cars 2? F1 2023? The upcoming WRC?
I know a couple of the above aren't as good as their PC counterparts but hopefully some of those pique your interest. First three of the above dirt cheap too if you shop around.
@@Wilayaat yea I play a few of those. But with my primary game being gt7 PS4/5 compatibility is still a must
This is a VERY expensive hobby...but listening to folks who actually know what they're doing (yes, even you Oscar 😂) can help quite a bit. I'm currently using my first DD wheel (I was a Thrustmaster T-300 guy for years), but I did it by being patient and waiting for the sale of the year: Fanatec CSL DD. I'm a PC racer, so the standard version was enough for me and I went for the BMW livery as it was as cheap as the standard wheel version. I use a cheap-ish Amazon steel wheel stand that folds up and that has a pretty cool attachment that allows for a racing/office chair to pop into it and hold it solid and it works great! This allows for a more compact setup which I need. It all works well together.
I'm more into dirt rallying, and sometimes I just wanna have fun (Forza series for this old guy). Full on racing games, like AC, IRacing, etc. gives me hives sometimes...I actually hate not the games but too many of the folks who play them. Nothing ruins a game more than the other idiots who play it, for real.
Great tips, Oscar, more folks need to know them BEFORE they buy a Logitech and curse it after using it for a few minutes 😂
expensive? i only spent £2000 for the whole lot and that includes load cell sprint pedels, Next level wheelstand 2, 15nm DD wheelbase with a GT/F1 wheel!
@@jonneymendoza£2000 is quite expensive for a hobby for most people. I'm a teenager so the concept of having that much disposable money is alien.
@@neblolthecarnerd true. It's not expensive for a adult working a normal average day job though.
@@jonneymendoza debatable. Depends on what you consider normal income. Especially in other countries where income is lower. I don't know many adults myself that can drop 2k on a hobby. That much disposable income seems like a middle-upper middle class thing. Not to mention that I'd you don't have one you'll probably have to drop another 1-2k on a pc
@@neblolthecarnerd yea I did say average ie middle.
I just got the thrustmaster t128 and a steering wheel stand (no space for seat setup), as I'll be playing casually on ps5 and not too heavy sim racing (games like crew 2, nfs unbound/heat, grid legends, dirt 5 and some farming simulator).
I don't have much spare time or money, so I bought a used wheel with table clamp, and pedals with carpet spikes. I like the driving to be pretty realistic but get straight into racing without too much faffing about so simcade is ideal. I started on some old Gran Turismo games but found out that even a pathetic non-gaming PC can run old games like Assetto Corsa, Richard Burns Rally, Live For Speed etc. My FFB wheel must be about as basic as they get, but without ever having tried a direct drive etc, I am blissfully unaware of the difference.
Another tip is, If you have a bro (literal or close friend) lives close to you, share the expenses. And share the system. I bought PS5 with my brother by sharing ( since I'm only playing exclusives). And we just agreed upon buying a fanatec system. Since this is a hobby like mountain bike, trekking. I will not devote myself to any specific hobby. but we will just chill by playing Sim racing either his or mine house (max. 30 min. Distance). Another excuse for playing games like old times. That'll probably will change after we both marry though.😅 Aince then.. race is on.
Yep. Got a G923 as my first steering wheel... and I upgraded it to a Fanatec GT DD Pro within 2 months. You get what you pay for.
How’s the fanatec been? I’m a bit nervous about getting it since all of the negative comments about it… mind you this will be my first sim setup
What was wrong with the G923?
Fanatec‘s customer service is „sheet“, but the items are great and user friendly. The entry costs for a fanatec setup is great. Just make sure you make some research before buy and upgrade. My recommendation: choose the prefered wheel you wish before you order!
If you got a G923 and upgrade to a Fanatec, the G923 will feel like a kids toy…
People are still recommending the G29 or the G923 for a starting wheel... completely obsolete tech.
The T300RS GT should be the bare minimum nowadays.
I'm really surprised more sim racing people don't use VR. Do the popular games not support it? I only play Dirt Rally 2.0. Personally I find the addition of depth perception utterly game changing and I can't imagine wanting to ever play on any kind of monitor setup again. I went from being totally useless on just about any technical stage to nailing hairpins regularly. I am still (for now) using my 20 year old Logitech wheel which is so old the force-feedback is no longer supported by drivers. Aside from being a much better driving experience because you can truly perceive the corners as they approach, VR is going to do way more for your immersion than a fake cockpit. It doesn't matter (for pure immersion at least) that your wheel is a cheap piece of plastic clamped to a desk because all you see is the interior of your car with your co-driver and everything. It really starts to feel like the gloved hands on the wheel are yours. If you combined it with a good force-feedback solution and one of those fancy moving rigs it would be absolutely insanely real feeling, really only lacking proper G-forces.
I think money for a rig and monitors is much more wisely invested in a good VR solution, again unless the game you want to play simply doesn't support it. But my experience at least is that once you experience racing in VR you will just stop playing games that don't support it. It's that much better. Another major bonus is that the VR can be used for many other awesome kinds of games as well, not just racing.
I sold my 38” curved monitor after experiencing VR. There’s really no comparison in terms of immersion.
IF you can actually race/fly in VR without getting sick. It's a pretty big risk buying a VR setup for a bunch of cash only to find out that it makes you nauseous every time you use it, thus becoming a glorified doorstop.
Yeah that's true I forget how lucky I am not to experience that. I guess it's something you would definitely want to try before you buy.@@karlhungus545
@@karlhungus545that's true but with the price of Quest 2 now and the fact that you could go to a VR arcade to try VR. There are ways to see if you might like it before purchasing anything
@JoshuaKnab IF you have a VR arcade anywhere near you maybe. Every one of them I was going to try ends up going out of business before I get there. The closest one to me now is over 700km away, and they never have the games I'd be interested in (DCS, IL2, racing games).
Everything i have ive bought over years so it didnt really seem that expensive however thinking about it now i have spent a lot of money overall best advice really is just dont rush and buy it all at once aslong as you have your steering wheel everything else can be bought in time
@TreborsTactics don't blame you bro if I could of I would of 😂👌
Personally, I figure any hobby should cost about $1000 - $1500 to start. Sim racing isnt that expensive compared to some of my other hobbies.
I bought an entire set up after a life time of racing with a controller and I just use the set up to cruise on horizon because I am unable to race with a wheel, I'm actually quite alright with that, cruising horizon is like driving my real car which I do all the time
Things I wish I’d known: playing what is fun is way more important than playing what people consider the most realistic. I know there can be overlap for some people, but this isn’t always the case.
I never would have bought a curved monitor for my rig if I’d experienced VR first. There’s really no comparison in terms of immersion, at least on my budget. I don’t have 20k to drop on a rig.
I am checking out Project Cars 2. Frankly, tired of hearing I have to invest in a wheel and other hardware, just to see if I like "sim". Even a couple of hundred dollars is not chump change to me. I found controller settings for PC2, and checking out the genre using PC2 career mode. Using career mode, I can adjust the AI both for my skill level, and using a controller. I likely will only ever race AIs, no multi-player. Am I out of whack in this process?
I'm planning on doing the same. I just became interested in the racing genre, but I'm not about to spend upwards of $100 just to see if I really like it
I have a question, like i'm a beginner in sim racing , beacsue of liking formula 1 , ao i brought forza horizon 5 , but after 2 hours , it was just boring .. , like really boring , si guys i ask you , what is a sim racing game that i could start with and fun (i could spend like 4 or 5 hours on without getting bored) , thankss(i have a steering wheel and pedals)
I too want the same answer.
Thinking of upgrading from my g920 to a thrustmaster tx. Should i?
Space is a huge factor for me. I ended up getting a small heavy duty standing desk. A 34 inch ultra wide was the other good move for small space. Some people would end up with the desk set-up because they didnt want to spend the money on a rig. I didnt have a desk until I wanted to sim race. 😂
Your last point of space requirements is what is really crushing me at the moment. I purchased pretty high end controllers 15+ years ago. They’ve actually held up just fine to the present day but the wheel isn’t FFB and the manufacturer is no longer in business.
“OK, I may have some money to upgrade so let’s look.” Every single modern pedal set that’s of moderately comparable quality to what I’m used to seems to require mounting in a rig. I do not have room for a rig or a wheel stand. I drive at my desk in my small office room. There is simply no floor space for a sim-specific installation. Period.
I haven’t given up yet. But for the time being I’m feeling pretty crushed. It just more or less feels like I’m getting squeezed out of enjoying the hobby I’ve enjoyed for nearly two decades because…while I can afford the equipment…some of that equipment itself basically needs a house bigger than mine.
Again, I’m not stating all this as facts or absolutes. It’s the impression I’m currently feeling while trying to figure out “where do I go from here” with equipment that is eventually going to need replacing. Absolutely first world problems, but it still really sucks when your facing it for the one activity you’ve enjoyed doing more than any other for the past 20 years or so.
Well thats why i bought a house lol
You just need a way to brace the pedals against the wall or against the desk, etc. I race at a corner desk that has a section in the middle. I wanted my pedals higher so I built a wood stand and mounted the pedals to that. I did just have them on the floor at one point. Simforge, Fanatec, Moza all have pedals that have some level of adjustment and would work. Even the Heusinkveld pedals would work. I personally prefer pedals that can either be mounted individually (Simforge, Heusinkveld) or moved from side to side.
What "high end" stuff did you buy 15 years ago where the wheel doesn't have force feedback?
I regret overlooking the price and now I’m broke😅 Good vid oc!
Understandable
song at 1:48?
My folf membership runs 20K per year... is sim racing more than that?? I doubt it, but it could be. I track for real, and that is way more expensive than golf, at least where i live, but thinking of getting into sim. was planning on 10k for my first setup, sound ok??
Do you think the R5 moza bundle is good for a persons first setup
Thank you for this video this is going to help me a lot!
Glad it was helpful!
I wish I knew 2 things before I got in sim racing. Which wheel base was right for me. I ended up getting 5 different wheel bases over the course of 6 years. T-150, T-300rs, and DD pro for console, and Accuforce V2, Simucube Pro 2 for PC. It was trial-&-error for me, and when I first got into it a lot of direct-drive weren't available like they are now.
Also for pc I ran a teiple monitor setup. Make sure you know what monitors will work with your video card! Lol
Very true! You’ve been through quite a few wheelbases it seems 😅
@@OCRacing LMAO yeah, been through a lot. A lot of wheels too! I was trying to cut cost, and buy decent products for a lesser price. WORD TO THE WISE. In the long run though, for something like this, it's best to just go with a great product for a little more money.
hench why i went with simagic alpha! @@atrain132
Can I only use one monitor? I already have a built of ( maybe like 3 years old now) but would that be enough ?
I drive my car on track and ive been seriously considering a sim rig BECAUSE it's so much cheaper. Real-life expenses add up fast.
Today i bought the Thrustmaster T300 Ferrari Integral Alcantara Edition, tomorrow i will receive my playseat ( Fourze racing seat).
Can't wait for it !
EDIT:
This is epic! Already 2.5 sec faster without gamepad 🔥🔥
Sad for sell the playseat and buy gt lite pro, ordered mine a few days ago i also bought t300
I wanted to buy that one but now I’m conflicted if I should get a direct drive wheel or belt driven like the alcantara Ferrari one
@@tuff77777 the Ferrari wheel is great, but i guess DD is better ( never used that one before tho) but again the Ferrari wheel feels great and the force feedback is also good with some tweaking here and there.
Oh and sorry for the late response
@@elite_e30 do you still like it after 1 month??
I wanted the same in the beginning but i wanted something more robust and a playseat to put my tv screen on 😬
Iam a little disappointed in the racing seat because the chair is not the best to sit on for a long time but i can replace it for a real car chair so thats the only thing i dont like about it
@@AngryWhiteGuyNLD ITS AMAZING my back never hurts like on a desk. I bought their monitor stand for that reason.
Would you please do a video (or comment) on the best compatible equipment (wheel, shifter, handbrake) for PC? I am going to build my own cockpit and PC dedicated for the rig, but I dont want to spend 500+ on a wheel alone either. Mostly looking at Asseta Corsa, but idk what other games are best for realism.
which is that street track @ 2:22🧐
i have a question: all i need is a g29 wheel and pedal and grand turismo right?
O have a pc Sony Ryzen 7 7800x3d and a amd graphics card equivalente to 4070ti i don’T know the model.. i’m looking for vr because of the space.. What do you recomend? Im going for a r9 bundle
Get a direct drive with load cell pedals and a cockpit if you're serious... If not get a used Logitech or Thrust master bundle
Is it worth getting one of the EA F1 games like F1 23 and F1 22 as a casual player to play on wheel? The wheel probably will be a logitech wheel.
I love sim racing but I'm not sure if the price for the fanatec CSL DD Ready2Race McLaren Bundle is worth the price (I am a kid and I don't want do force my parents to buy me stuff I won't use.
i needed this a while ago haha, god the amount ive wasted. patience is a virtue!
(oc how are you?)
Honestly... I think PS5 with the PSVR2 and a G29 wheel and pedal is very immersive and fun. Granted only GT7 has VR its good enough for a casual gamer who wants immersion.
I already have a beefy pc. I9, RTX 2080Ti EVGA FTW3, an ultrawide 32 inch monitor, etc... but now I need my first ever wheel and my country's very limited in what they have to offer. Most shops only have either the G29 or the T300.
No DD which is sad.... might go for the T300 just to give it a try. But asking €400 for something old as trash, aint worth it.
what game has the best tutorial for driving manual trans>
I'm building one myself soon. 3 42" TV's should give me the FOV if VR headsets doesn't start showing up or drastically lowers in price.
I am most likely to learn how to weld the frame, and for the motion-rig system I am going with an idea I haven't seen some before.
If u wanna race EA CodeMasters WRC some, .. Aka Sir Rally 3.0 😊 Or Assetto Corsa Conpetitzione, Automobilista (under appreciated)
Maaan quest 2 is 300$ and quest 3 is 500$, about quest 3 it is better than more expensive valve index
You are the best
No, my subscribers are 🫶
@@OCRacingno we all are
@@OCRacing😘
I went ahead and bought a Logitech pro wheel and pedal set with a FGT elite 160 and also bought the psvr2. So happy I just bought the right stuff from the jump and won’t be looking to upgrade unless new wheels come out ;)
$1000 gaming pc
$230 monitor
$330 cockpit
$300 pedals
$600 wheel
Im at $2460 and my rig is a budget rig for sure, I don’t know where you got your 200-600 dollar budget number from
I have only xbox Series S. Dirt 3 hope good my controller. I dont like simracing, I dont know what car setup. And what opponents race against?)
expensive????? have you ever gone thru 4 sets of tires on track day? put a 80K build into a wall cause some sand? here i can just hit reset!
Is pricey not expensive two different things. The real thing that is expensive !
Going to get Ps5 soon, and currently got a Logitech g29, I want to play with my family racing games. What racing games do you recommend?
Gt7
@@TURBO-TR, I got the Ps5 and Gran Turismo 7, this a fun game thank you!
@@RealB1ue1ion it's a staple, can't go wrong!
How you like
The g29 ?
@@Atticus1ag It's fun to use, I love racing against my siblings with it, haven't had any problems with it
I am currenrly looking into starting this ive already saved up 46€ and am going on. I dont really want to spend more than 200€ but i want a wheel with 3 pedals and a shifter wich is really hard to find. I mabey could do 280. But i come from a mid-low class family. Do you guy have any suggestions?
(I have a ps4)
Logitech g29 is pretty good for that price Range.
most people already have either a PC or console. I have both but prefer playing on console... too many cheaters on PC compared to console. I play PC2, GT7, F1 2023, AC, ACC and Dirt Rally on either my Playstation. I purchased a cheap Thrustmaster T150 and a playseat challenge that I can fold up and put away when not in use. This was quite cheap to setup and I have been happy using this for years. Racing is only an expensive hobby if you have to have the latest and greatest setup.
thanks for existing:)
Likewise!
Are you in Orange County? Have you been to world of racing?
Wait can someone please tell me the Spanish(?) song at 1:30?
Cumbia Cámbiala
Thank you so much!!!! @@flashmaker1858
I have a g29 with shifter, i don't know whether i should spend any more money on other equipment like a lite rig
That depends on how much you enjoy it. A sit down rig really adds to the immersion.
I gave my G29 to my son and bought a G pro DD wheel.
Mounted on an Omega Gt sim rig. I really enjoy sim racing. Mostly in VR.
Man i used a g29 and shifter with a cheap $70 wheel stand for 3 years i just upgraded to a full moza setup with clutch pedal cs wheel and hgp shifter and the hand brake now i just gotta upgradey wheel stand to something better im thinking next level WS 2.0 it looks like a tank probably the best wheel stand on the market i love the floor tray that holds the chair in place that's there biggest problem with what i got now especially when braking and the dd wheel base tries to throw the stand around i have to ratchet strap it to my desk
No mention of the Nintendo Switch Joycon steering wheel accessory, can this video really be considered a comprehensive look at the sim racing landscape?
Is there a league that I can get in , I have console do acc and forza Motorsport,
Trying to avoid the random joystick player every 3 sec that you get creamed by and having 15nm go wild😅 as much as I can
i live in brazil, and here a logitech g29 is 1800 bucks (our minimum wage is 1400) so i dont really have conditions to buy a better wheel, so i have to live with what i get
I been looking into getting a racing wheel I play gt7 on playstation and forza motorsport on my pc but not sure what wheel to get iv been looking at videos on here and seeing recommendations and most recommend the t300 and logitech g27 and a few others but can't decide what to go with
I wish I could have tried it before buying. It’s not fun either having ai take you out every race or another person doing the same thing. Bumping is one thing but they destroy you and ruin your race. Time trials are just boring so I don’t see the point. It’s not the slightest bit realistic
i see so many people that they say must have direct drive. We played so many years with g25. We had such a good times with it. From controller to g series logitechs is a big jump, but i don't think that direct drive affects huge for better driving, maybe more fun. I'd go with cheap G series logitech (200 $) and seat (150 $), if possible VR too (500 $) instead of paying 600-1000 dollars to a steering wheel. Of course if you have so much money, nothing stops you :)
you think vr would help? I have a headset
Pc all the way, I’ve saved so much money on building my own setup with generic solid items and custom made steering wheels which I piece together through different products available. I love it. F the consoles
Are there any 'SimCade' F1 games with great graphics for PC?
I built a desk setup and im having 10000% fun with my logitech g920 or something like that😂 actually never enjoyed racing this much.. do what you love people.. ❤
What is the rig in 6:52 ?
1:32 song?
I started with a cheaper wheel and F1 games and NASCAR games to get the more arcade/simcade vibes until I was comfortable enough to upgrade to iracing and eventually upgrade my wheel and pedals
What is the best Formula E game and hardware?
What game is listed at 2:52?
Use yr ears
Nice vid keep up the good work
I'm over 20k Invested 2 motion rigs working on selling one. But I'm hesitant on joining iracing because of the investment it can be but it's nearly impossible to find online multiplayer racing on assetto Coarsa comp and project cars 3. Can anyone name a sim/arcade racing experience with others that's not iracing?
ayayay pc1 and pc2 are sims, tho pc3 is def simcade. and i also think a lot of people would consider gran turismo a sim.
Depends on which Gran Turismo, I think. Early ones like 1-4 I would think are simcade. 5 and 6 try to clean that up. And if Sony ever got smart and released GT7 for PC with universal wheel support and triple-monitor support, they’d probably make a LOT of money from the PC racing sim community.
920 attached to my computer desk. It's future proof because I will never upgrade. Cheers!
im going for csl dd 5nm, mclaren gt3 wheel and mounting it on on my ikea desk, fuck it, im not going to spend much more than 500€, if i was to get "the next thing" i'd easily spend 1000€ which is out of my budget, i can always buy upgrades down the line (not going to for a few yrs, hope so)
What's that alpine steering wheel?
Im getting G29 for the boy on ps4 and i just picked up the g920 for my pc (on offer)
He's 10 and im more forza than F1.
Anyone know a good cross platform game that is casual and good for learning the ropes in sim racing?
Fine, less forza and more like destruction derby.
Wait. I'm less Gran Tourismo and more Grand Theft Auto.
☝️ That's the one.
Do all the different brands work together on pc. For example with fanatec pedals and moza wheel
Yes
@@OCRacing thank you
Hey everyone so I’m now getting into sim racing I would appreciate it if someone give me a few tips. Should I go P.C. or console? Also looking to buy that Ferrari steering wheel and for pedals the logictech pedals. As for the cockpit I’m thinking about the next level cockpit I forgot the full name of it lol but it cost 900 bucks Damm but it’s like for serious players and I really like it. No I’m
Not rich I’m just goin to save up for it so any advice or tips ? Appreciate it thanks.
Sim racing = constantly upgrading! Just be aware of that! It is an addict 😊😂
So I have a question for anyone who has a straight answer because everytime I google it gives an ha. I have been looking into getting Fanatec CSL DD and I was wondering if I get a PC wheelbase but an Xbox compatible wheel can I use it on PC/Xbox?
hey mate yeah xbox wheels work with pc so do ps4/5 wheels but there is some wheels that are pc only
"Sim racing is expensive".... you can get an okay rig set up for the same price as good racing coilovers.
If yohr a racer you are always going to upgrade if its your home rig or real car you're spending money
If you already have a decent computer it can be more affordable, but if not yeah it can get out of hand quick.
Is Forza really forgiving in terms of real world physics?
yes
Rumblings are saying that the next NASCAR console game will be made by iRacing. Don’t ask me how I know just know it’s on good authority.
When Thrustmaster TH8S review?
Just Op and fully made up of metal...Looks dope and Can be used with any steering wheels
Good old $50 controller and have fun. You'll be lapping little slower but you won't spend thousands.
Whats good for snowrunner?
Way too 101 for me at this point but I gotta say: *_Congrats on the production._*
I've worked on such as microwave multiplex systems and written tech manuals _(years of work!)_ for such as avionics / landing system, so I'm not dicking you around!
Complete, comprehensive, correct ... good on yuh bud!
^5
Thanks a lot Ben :)
@@OCRacing cheers
p.s. oh hey, this came to mind this very moment: I had been wonder about which races on which platform were being streamed and just when ... even just the confound of YT and Twitch.
How about a regular show that looks forward to the schedule? you could talk about the difference classes, the different event settings, news and views about cars and drivers and mftrs ... all while providing a real service! (Maybe two versions, one short and sweet covering the sched and the other more commentary.)
There is always someone who cant drive and crash the field. So my 2 cent is to find another hobby. Thats what i did...
Or find friends who will race🤦♂️
About 90 percent of Sim drivers cant drive. Same as 90 percent of shooters in games cant shoot. Way too much praise for gamers these days
Even the professionals do this irl albeit with less frequency but it happens. If you enjoy it just do you.
Low effort human ... you obv didn't even try .. also I still finish the races even if people crash me .. mostly not last due to people dnf and also I get a genuine adrenaline rush and excitement when driving even now when using a controller I'm obsessed w cars too soo can't relate to you
Womp womp
Great video as always! Do you think there will be a surge of new players after the Grand Turismo movie is released?
here i am! lol
#1 wish i knew fanatec ecosystem is a rabbit hole.. 😂
Interesting topic but the editing can use some serious improvement. Pacing, volume mixing between game-audio, music and voice-over both need work.
i have a logitech g920 with a logitech h shifter do you think theres any things i could improve?
Let’s goo
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Using a g29, if you don't want to upgrade immediately due to high costs, I suggest modding what you already have since there are a plethora of options to choose from. For me I've bought a mod for my h shifter which makes shifting feel a lot better and I bought a load cell kit for the pedals which makes braking feel better as well, while not breaking the bank. That's my suggestion at least if you don't want to buy a new setup
@@franciscolugo2903alright thank you!
@@franciscolugo2903what mods do you consider
Honestly, consoles are kind of bad for sim racing. Not only are you limited for hardware choice, you also can't mod the games you want to play. A lot of sim titles are completely different with the recommended mods people play with.