Here You Go Doug Demuro! This Is How Much A V12 Mercedes CL65 AMG Costs To Fix Out Of Warranty!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 เม.ย. 2018
- Doug Demuro recently made a video on the insane Mercedes-Benz CL65 AMG. In his video, he wonders how much a car like this would cost to repair outside of warranty. Well Doug, here you go. This is how much a $200,000 Mercedes-Benz CL65 AMG can cost to fix outside of warranty.
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What's the most expensive repair bill you've seen and what kind of car? I once fixed an S600 under extended warranty and the bill was just over $30,000. But I went to town on that thing,Haha.
@LegitStreetCars, hey douchbag you're not Doug and way to go being original. Just be yourself and tell it how it really is, plain and simple~
Scored a brand new ignition coil pack for $750. Most expensive fix. Plugs weren't gapped properly.
Battosai you obviously don’t have a sense of humor, Alex was joking around and making the video entertaining, why do I even have explain that? Chill bro Doug doesn’t own that style of film making so Alex can copy him all day as he said in the beginning.
Battosai Jenkins youre not very intelligent are you? Struggled in school yea?
Battosai Jenkins wtf are you saying
Doug the type of guy to trademark the word “this”
Doug the type of guy to flip out when someone tells him their dream car.
$3,500 for heads on a 06 C230. Had free floating valve. Hit the Piston but want bad.
man literally called it
I remember when i was looking into buying my first car at 19 years old and ended up with a clean 1 owner 06 S65, and I clearly remember how many people said id go broke fixing it yet im still waiting for something to actually break before replacing it, regular maintenance isnt as bad as most would assume and its cheaper than replacing something from lack of maintenance
V12COMMISION You had S65 at 19 ?
Not going to lie, I wouldn't trust a teenager with 600bhp and 737lb ft.
@@nikolal.4502 absolute madlad
V12COMMISION 🧢
AnAMGguy same here! Bought a practically new BMW 5 series at 18 and everyone literally told me I was going to need another job to afford it 😂. Almost 2 years in and absolutely no problems, currently at 92k and looking into either an M6 or Cls63 next!
This is killer content. This channel has everything it takes to get big on TH-cam and grow into more car enthusiast media like TV in a few years.
I don't care how much the ABC suspensions cost to replace. This car is going to be mine. ;)
U don't "replace" the entire suspension--just the part that breaks.
Oscar Gonzalez people say it’s just like any other hydraulic on machinery. So basically you can bring it to any hydraulic shop and they will most likely know whats going on
If it is extremely expensive just go to strutmasters and replace the whole suspension with coilsprings. They also include a module to erase the abc codes.
Eidrian111 I ended up getting a clk55. I don’t regret it one bit
Commenter2 2004, 126,215 miles
I absolutely love the humor and dig at Doug Demuro. I always enjoy your witty humor with a nice blend of great information. All I would suggest to you as a prior Mercedes Benz tech is that most people that are interested in buying an ABC suspension Mercedes and fixing it themselves with FCP Euro parts, needs mechanical instructions. The breakdown of costs between factors is great but if I'm personally going to attempt to do this job myself, why not provide the "nuts and bolts" repair procedure so we can see first hand how to accomplish this? Your channel is very successful and one of my favorites so I comment a lot. But in my opinion, you would easily surpass Doug Demuro' s numbers if the ACTUAL repair was performed and the video created for us to reference first hand. All other MB channels focusing on these issues skip over this point. I was hoping you would outshine them all by showing us the repairs. Great video.
Hey Ken, first off I really appreciate you watching and making informative comments. I know you have been around since I started. I do plan on making some instructional type videos but my time here on TH-cam is just super limited. I work a full time job, have 2 babies, I write automotive tech artilces and everything else life has to offer. I do think about what you are saying 100% and think that I can incorporate those types of videos on cars that I own. I plan on buying a car or two this year and starting a series that I may call "Sorted." They will not be smashed cars or autction cars. Rather normal cars I find online just like everyone else but that have been neglected or need somewhat normal repairs. Then I can make videos on the repairs show everyone how cheap somethings can be done and eventually sell the car and move on.
Overall instructional videos take a long time to make and don't get too many views so with a very limited time to make videos I have to use my time very wisely. If this whole things kicks off one day I'd love to focus more of my time making videos and possibliy uploading quality content 2 or 3 times a week. Thanks again for watching!
Alex
LegitStreetCars I appreciate the detailed response as sometimes I enjoy your channel so much that I often forget that you have a family and other commitments. Please forgive me for that. I know I speak for so many subscribers when I say we highly respect your work, research and overall top notch character traits you possess. Keep up the excellent enjoyable videos.
I owned a 2003 CL55 for about 6 years. I wanted one since I was 17 and when I turned 26, I could afford a quality low mileage example. These cars are a labor of love no matter what year/miles you go with. They will keep you up at night. I dealt with all the ABC bullshit and other various electrical gremlins that come with these things, but looking back I would do it all again. I learned a lot about maintaining/fixing cars and how various systems work. When the car was functioning properly, it really had seriously impressive performance for such a big car and there's just something magical about the old Mercedes coupes. If you are considering a W215 of any kind, don't try to daily the car even if you live where the roads are perfect and if you do decide to daily the car, budget about $3500-$5K for maintenance per year at a good indie to keep it running right. It can be done, but like my man said...you gotta pay the cost to be the boss, but if you pay that cost, then you'll be the biggest boss in one of these, no doubt.
Awesome video, Alex!
I actually have an '05 SL65 myself, which I've owned for just shy of 4 years. I looked for about a year to find a nice one with a good service history and a specific color combination (silver with red interior). I got it with 20k on it, now has 38k. I've only done basic maintenance so far (brakes of course, ALL fluids including the ABC, etc) along with some Renntech goodies, and it's been trouble free so far.
The best advice I can give to anyone is to actually drive the cars if you own one, as there's no doubt in my mind things like the ABC components don't cope well with sitting... exercising them is a good thing!
I have 100,230 miles on my 2005 S600 V12 Twin Turbo, so far I've spent $2,000 on the Tandem Pump replacement. Don't buy a rebuilt one trust me on this! I bought new front rotors from O.E. and they were $220 for the pair, put some ceramic pads on their and I was under $300 total for that job. Pads cost me $17 on Amazon lol. Coil packs were also replaced by the previous owner i.e. dealer.
The Tandem Pump high pressure hose, or power steering hose was replaced also. It cost $320 just for the hose! So there's no getting around that. You can flush the ABC fluid out yourself just use a Turkey Baster and get a bowl. Replace it with CHF Hydraulic Oil and you're good. That said its a joy to drive and getting to 150mph+ is no problem! Find a good mechanic and Shop around for your parts and you'll love it like I have these past 2 years!
i have 2009 BMW 750 with 158k miles and the iDrive says transmission fault
I have the same one, even year, which a friendly dealer sold me for just $4 grand! But it had a blown turbo which needed engine out service. $3 grand later and I got my car back. Just needs a TPS pedal now but above 3,000 it fuckin' flies! No sound, just a whir!!! I'm gonna get both resonator and muffler delete on it eventually as V12's need sound!
Also I've had no issues at all with the ABC in 2 yrs. and with just 429 units in North America this fucker is RARE!
One of the realest and one of my favorite TH-cam channels by far! Keep up the great videos! The breakdown of the cost is epic!
And I was waiting for the Alex-score at the end :-(
The CL65 is my dream car - luxury, hand assembled V12, 4 seats, ample trunk space. The reality is that I had to "settle" for an 04 E55K...so I'm only shy 4 cylinders :-)
SL65 prefacelift my dream car
Why settle for a E55 when you can get a CL600? It’s 80% of the car for 40% of the price. Brakes are waaaay cheaper too. Front $260 in parts. Textar and Pagid, good stuff
Another awesome video! Cant wait for the next one! Already binged watched all your vids! So glad I found your Channel! Love the fact that you give props to Doug and Tavarish!
I bought an ‘07 s600 with lots of maintenance records and have had zero problems in almost a year. The key is flushing the abc system regularly, replace the filter too. And service the trans regularly. Great video!
JEREMIAH SNYDER Great to hear. I absolutely love these cars and love hearing success type stories. They are expensive no doubt, but just amazing machines
incredible car, I wanted a 600 badly when I acquired my S550, but the reliability, insurance costs for a 17 year old, and wearables cost was insane.
The fact that you demonstrate repairs that YOU do yourself rather than just give a monologue about the vehicle is what puts you at the top of MY list of channels that I enjoy watching. Excellent work.
Thanks!!!
To be honest, I started watching your vids about the E55 which led me to the S600. I went and bought one. A silver 05 S600 with 81k on the clock. Previous owner got stuck replacing both coil packs and a rear strut, ABC pump seals and was immediately scared of the next issue that might pop up so I got a deal! His repaired pump was immediately run dry so I got a replacement pump at the same time as car purchase. ABC still functions with pump noise, I'm just waiting on some spare time to replace.
Boy this video sure came full circle
Thank you for doing the prices, nice to have the perspective. Great to hear from an auto expert.
Great vid, as always. You forgot motor mounts though. Like with the 55k's, the torque from the V12TT's can destroy them pretty quickly depending on how you drive. And some of the older M275 cars had horribly designed motor mounts that required you to drop the subframe or remove the steering rack and downpipes to get to their top bolts. Or if you're not a contortionist or have large hands, pulling the engine might just be easier (I believe that's what the WIS calls for anyway). Much harder and more expensive to work on than the 55's (with air suspension), but no one can deny these 65's, even at 10+ years old, are just amazing cars. Perfect blend of opulence and supercar speed, especially when tuned.
Yea those motor mounts can suck. Some car require the engine to be dropped, others just the exhaust. I'd get the aftermarket poly filled mounts for sure after all that work.
Alex
Just bought a 2007 S65 AMG and when I got home I wondered to myself “what have I done?!” But videos like this have given me the confidence to plunge headlong into enjoying it and tackling all the preventative maintenance myself.
Hi Alex!! Well done with the video!! It is interesting to watch Doug with his reviews, BUT YOU are so much more worthwhile!! Thank you for going over this vehicle. I have been drooling over an S600 for several years and I still cannot wait to get my hands on one! I do ALL my own work and I do not let anything intimidate me. Thank you for your input and encouragement. Merc ownership is two-fold......driving and maintaining. I am very interested in any other video relating to the S600-2010 and newer. Many thanks!
I like how You showed suspension's quirks and features in this video.
This is, a great video! Keep em coming!
Great video. As a proud owner of a 2006 S65 AMG, I have a channel with a few different videos about the car.
The most expensive quote from the dealer for me was like $6k to change out the radiator and radiator fan. Genuine Mercedes parts cost me $1200 and maybe a whole day work.
Replacing all 24 spark plugs I got a quote from Mercedes for $1200. Cost me $240 with genuine mercedes plugs and a few hours of work.
My keyless remotes stopped working, Mercedes quoted me over $2k to replace the antenna. Found a used one on ebay for $30 and it has been working great for over a year!
Recently, I changed out the 2 front hydraulic struts and upper and lower control arms for a total of $1400. I can't even imagine what the dealer would have charged.
Respect!
Your channel should have half a million followers by now.... Great content 👍
As an owner of a CL600 and previously having owned a CL55 I love seeing new videos of these cars and getting more word out about them.
The maintenance can be pricey even at diy, but still worth it. Other things worth mentioning that are expensive are door locks $500 a pop, front window regulators that are $500 also and the valve blocks for the abc that are over a $1000 for each.
Check out the video review of my CL600 on The Smoking Tire page.
i saw ur video!!
You put 65 rims on a 600, why put yourself through that? Buy the CL65. Every night you sleep you think about having a 65. Don't put 65 rims on your car and don't put a V12 Bi Turbo badge either. Stay sane. P.S(The FUCKING INTERIOR OF 65 is BETTER THAN 600. COSTS WAY MORE. FUCK OFF) Ok BYE.
Yeah that Arthur guy is deranged like so many other 600 (65) model owners. They always try to justify not having a 65. They say things like it smoother like the 65 is a GT3 and they say it’s the most powerful non amg, and a whole lot of other garbage like the 600 has a better interior. Straight garbage. I’m glad I own a 65 as part of my collection. They are similar, yes but to say the 600 is better is delusional. Pisses me off so much when people try to add 65 rims and parts, 65 badges, amg badges, v12 bitrubo badges and get an ECU and say it’s faster than a 65 like a 65 can’t get a tune...sad stuff and truly psychotic. The V12 owner community are even more weird when they don’t have a 65 compared to when BMW 335i owners don’t have an M3 and that’s saying a WHOLE lot.
Who cares? Everyone has different tastes and different preferences.
This specific comment is about his CL600, not a CL65.
And lots of people put AMG wheels on non-AMG cars...
Putting AMG wheels on non-AMG cars is idiotic. Same thing with M badges on a non-M car (BMW).
Love your videos! I have a 97 BMW 750IL with a V12. It still runs and looks great inside and out. Several months ago my left rear strut spring mount failed. The car was equipped with hydraulic “EDC” struts that are about $1000 each. As much as I love the car, it wasn’t worth it (it has 225,000).
So I DIY’d a fix. I replaced the EDC struts with new standard struts( Sachs struts and Bilstein springs). I’ve never done much more than change a tire before this but had to try. As far as the hydraulic lines, I clamped them, cut, then used a 2” tight thread stainless steel hex bolt and threaded it into the cut tubing. Then cinched it with hose clamps. I kept a close eye on leaks and the power steering fluid (they are on the same line) and so far so good. Not something I would’ve done when the car was newer! But we need to keep these amazing cars from the scrap heaps!!
Best to all!
Those things accelerate like a damn jet ✈️
I had owned a s600 before loved it ABC suspension is so smooth V12 awesome engines run butter smooth very powerful just a very smooth this engine behaves like no other motor
mannn i really enjoy driving this damn machine its amazing
I had one. Put 160,000 miles on it. It was a fantastic car, and fairly reliable. I rebuilt the ABC Pump and Valve block solenoids. Coil packs went out like clockwork once a year thankfully FCP euro has a good warranty on them. I changed the water pump, radiator,and electric fan. One critical maintenance point thats never done is the abc fluid and filter change. I did that every oil change. As for the cost, i bought most of the parts from fcp euro and any mb dealer parts from mb of atlanta as they had the best prices.
david swan Why do the coil packs go bad so fast?!
My old mercury mystique is going alright with all stock stuff.
Just started a misfire this year, will do the coil & lines to fix it.
Jay Edlington From what i can tell they are just too complicated for their own good. They use the spark plugs as knock sensors. They read the ignition pulses with the cassette computer to determine knock from what i read. Its the major change from the m275 to the m279, they went to a conventional coil on plug. Its worth buying the ecu kit from speedriven to change to coil on plug.
How this channel doesn't have at least 200k subs I don get it. Info here is gold videos after videos
He'll get there. I wont.
Cant believe i missed this, another great video and break down 👍
I own a 2005 W220 S65 with just 37000 miles on it, and I know this: If you're not one step ahead of ANY breakdown or malfunction, you're going to wind up robbing a bank to cover your workshop expenses. Keyword: Maintenance!!!!
My dreams sadly I am broke as shopping bag haha
Beauty a mastercraft german car
Exactly
Hey neighbor, couple of things to clarify, the ABC shocks almost never go bad, what goes bad are the nitrogen spheres (every 9 years or 80,000 miles). Assuming you replace the nitrogen spheres within 9 years or 80,000 the shocks will last forever. Shocks do go bad ONLY if you fail to replace the nitrogen spheres at the above intervals. The spheres are the items you did not show. Each sphere about $100 you will need at least 3 of them. If the steering fluid is dark that means one of the spheres went bad, you need to replace all of them at the same time, put the new fluid in. So shocks is the item that is 100% fullproof on that car. The ignition coils, we are living in 2018, i can fix an ignition coil for $200 if you provide which cylinder is misbehaving, for ignition coils not to go bad you just need to replace the rubber boots every time you replace the spark plugs. Transmission is fullproof engine is fullproof, there is really nothing horribly wrong with this car. I think a BMW 7 series would be way more expensive to maintain than this ride (speaking from experience). The alignment, this car has simple suspension just like any other mb or bmw, there is nothing hard about alignment on this vehicle, any $100 shop should be able align it.
Thanks Jack!! Great comment. My point was simply to high light some expensive repairs as I stated in the video. I plan on going over the super easy sphere replacements in the future. I have seen these abc struts leak so they do go bad but not very often if maintained like you said. I listed the alignment at $125 since it's a normal alignment.
Thanks for watching
Alex
Yes, accumulators spheres, the ABC hoses go too because of the V12 heat.. just replaced mine.
You're not going to prevent these coilpacks from failing just by replacing the boots. You also can't fix them for $200 there are two packs each pack is for a full bank of 6. Theae aren't single pack per cylinder engines.
This video is what made me click that subscribe button. Thank you for breaking everything down like this, please do more!
Doug doesn't own the word "this" LoL
Trenton Leslie "ThiiiIiIIiees" is a Mercedes....
Your mom likes this meat though
Delete your account
You aint
Yes he does
I am so happy you made this video. I like watching you the best . .. you are a mechanic. . . I can learn something from. Thanks I bought a CL500 2003 for my wife 2 years ago.
I pretty much love all AMGs, except the ones that have the V-12, 6.3 liter engines, which are not nearly as bulletproof as the 5.4 liter engines. The fact is, I prefer my AMG, a CL 55 AMG. It is a 2003 and yes, it is a Kompressor. It runs great, came with every single maintenance record, well actually every single record about the car. From the moment it rolled off the ship from Germany, until I bought the car, the prior owner had saved EVERY single piece of paper that was ever associated with the car. He had them in both paper and CD formats and included the Mercedes Benz mechanic's DVD/CD workshop manual for it.
The man that I bought the car from was a retired U.S. Navy Master Chief and as I have stated before, when I was in the military ( I was USAF, but interacted with the Navy too), I worked with a few Master Chiefs and every one of them was a meticulous, detail oriented guy. My CL 55 AMG was perfectly maintained and was so clean you could have eaten off the chrome threshold on either the driver's or passenger's side.
While the Master Chief didn't go crazy with upgrades on the car, it did have a tune on it, in fact, a custom tune for the car and the Mercedes Benz top speed limiter of 155 mph had been discarded with the tune, and also, the car's 0 to 62 mph time was now 3.85 seconds, which is insanely quick for a car that weighs as much as mine does.
So, I love my AMG. It is in perfect condition and should remain that way for sometime as I take very good care of it.
Have fun with your AMGs folks!
Hey Alex, love your videos. Been a sub since you had 10k subs. Keep up man!!
Thanks brother!
My CL55 has 184,000 miles on it and all work is done myself.
After replacing the ABC pump and several other ABC parts, eventually the impossible-to-replace hose that runs over the motor to the regulator sprung a leak. I removed ALL the ABC stuff, sold it to Arnott for cores and installed a YellowSpeed coil-over kit with a Strutmasters ABC light delete module.
Best car move I ever made!
With YellowSpeed, these cars do not need sway bars, the suspension will only travel 2.5” before the tire leaves the ground. People that tell you sway bars are needed are thinking of Corvairs or normal cars. In hard cornering, the car can only lean 2”
For a big Benz that can out run Ferraris and lambos, the maintenance is a hell of a lot cheaper! AMG the best or nothing!!!
I own a w211 03 e320 and keep up with the maintenance and has been an awesome car, built superior! I want a w215 from 03-06 but just a regular cl500 without the ABC, but great video!
All CL cars have the ABC.
Maybe a 82 Ferrari 400
I've never needed new rotors and I'm on my 4th Benz (E and C classes )
I have a 2005 CL55 and I love this car. I do all the repair and maintenance work on my CL in my garage. I must confess it is not my daily driver, but when I take her out, it is a blast!. My recommendation is; do not cheap out on maintenance, but do shop smart. We only live once, so enjoy what makes you happy, for me it is my CL55. :)
R H good car
not v12 buddy
And then there's me who would just have more than enough with a Nissan 350Z (love that car since I started playing Underground) , because it's manual, but the Mercedes are another world, very luxurious interior, first class confort, silent while driving, you look like some executive if you drive in one of these and can still be fast and sporty despite being as heavy as a mountain. I always look at all the CL from this generation (no matter if 500,600 AMG, doesn't matter, interiors are all luxurious) on the street and I respect them, like WOAH this is business, not those nasty plastic cars they do today
You sound like Doug throughout the whole video 😂
Nilton Goncalves nah he needs a higher pitch voice.
I bought a 2004 S600 with the same expensive systems. I found one that was neglected and got it as a project car. I've already spent 2X the purchase price in parts for DIY. Not for the faint of heart, but it's been an amazing project and experience. I replaced the pump, rebuilt the valve blocks, and replaced major ABC lines including the ones that snake around the engine carrier. ABC system so far has been the most expensive parts, but the second would be the PSE actuators in the doors and trunk. After this car, I think I'm ready for any complicated luxury car project :-)
Faaaaaannnntasssstic information! Great videos!
Excellent video and all the info is on point. I'm a current MB master tech, on the line for over 10 years now. This car is really amazing when properly maintained. Yes, maintenance is a money pit on these, so if you can't afford one, don't buy one. If you can fix it yourself, there are a lot of resources out there and you can save a whole lot of money. Realize that you should only take on the ABC pump on this if you have a lot of tools, extensions, etc.
Bottom Line, you only live once & learn to work with your hands, very rewarding. Great video Alex!! I will own one of these.
Just came across this video. Been contemplating buying a one owner 06 SL65 with 26000 miles. I'm going to BUY IT!!!
Coming from 6 yrs ownership of an E63 V10 M6, the forums were filled with scare mongering. 6 yrs later, not a damn thing went wrong... Like one of the comments said, "maintenance, maintenance, maintenance"
Solid video. 👌🏽
Excellent video. You nailed it. If people want to own such a car they need to realize that it's expensive. Period. There is no other way around it.
Instead, people want to own these types of cars and pay nothing for maintenance. They are just asking for trouble. And I think part of the reason these cars have a bad reputation is that people buy them only intending to keep them for 3-5 years, so they don't bother with long-term maintenance and this means the cars reach the used car market in often poor mechanical condition. The best and reliable cars I know and deal with have been WELL-MAINTAINED by both owners and dealers. Those are the ones to buy, not the abused and neglected cars.
I've got a '05 SL500. I bought her BECAUSE there's no turbos or supercharger, just a very sweet 5 litre that just runs and runs all day long. Like you said, maintenance isn't too hard, just plan a Saturday morning for it. Yes, I have ABC in it, works great!! She's got 303 wheel horsepower with a 7-speed trans. That's fast enough for me, had her up to 131 mph [in Mexico!!] and feels like 145 is about the top end. Just keep them maintained and remember that they weren't made for quarter mile blasts, will last a good, long time.
Great video.
I am not surprised about the price. When it comes to Mercedes the only way I am surprised about the price is when the price for a repair is lower when you think it won't be. I am talking about dealer prices. Let's call it reverse sticker shock.
Question: Over looking the fact that it can devalue the car when trying to sell it, with this type of car, could you convert the ABC system to a standard shock and spring system?
Yes I go over that in the video after giving all the prices.
Your mannerisms mimic Doug's perfectly.
Just subbed 👍 great video!
great video. I am considering a used Mercedes and was wondering about these costs this video gave a good idea on that
First time watching your stuff. I really enjoyed the video. New sub
Thanks!!
Nice video. I'm 3 years in on owning my 2005 s55 with 67k miles. So far we've had to do the brakes, radiator, supercharger pulley, bearing and belt after those repairs the passenger side ABC hose burst and we had the pump flushed while changing the hose. Love the car to death. Great info. Thank you for sharing.
djstrick100 I have a 06 S55 amg with TCU and ECU tune with resonator delete and xpipe. Car is expensive af to maintain lol but I love it.
It's a love hate relationship. I love it when there's no issues and want to drive it off a cliff when there're issues. LOL. I live in Los Angeles and last night on the way from Long Beach on the 710 FWY I saw headlights coming super fast from behind. I thought it might have been the cops so I moved over to let the cars pass. Turns out it was a Chevy Sonic and a '97 Camry. I blew their doors off and left them so far behind it was ridiculous. LOL This makes the high cost maintenance worth while. BUT, I'm looking very hard at the 2018 wide body Challenger Hellcat.
Thank you for sharing this vital information, so very helpful !!
Hey man! I've got an 06 CL65, great info! Such a rare car, SO hard to find common sense advice ANYWHERE. Was thinking about doing coilovers on mine, may stay away from it now. Mines got 67K miles, no suspension issues yet! (:
Flush that fluid!!!
Gonna do it! Planning on selling the thing, going to pick up a CLS55. Excited! DO A CLS55 VIDEO
Henry Satterwhite Email me if you sell it. Legitstreetcars@gmail.com
I emailed you about this exact car about a month ago, thanks for the reply and the video lol.
This is why l like Doug DeMuro, he gets to the point and doesn’t talk talk talk to listen to him self. Viva Doug, he changes the Auto industry
This is a great video. I’ve been shopping for a CL65 and this put my mind at ease. I already have a SL65 and I’m spoiled by the power
I love this video bro 😂😂
That’s crazy. I didn’t realize this was 2 years ago and another car.
I ve got an E Class 320 CDI elegance and BMW 745i e65 in white 2002.
The E class is W210 model lovely driving , but not so good as S class 320 W220.
The BMW 745i e 65 2002 , came as direct swap for Audi A4 2.0 petrol automatic 2003 , which I ve bought it for just 350£ .
So not too bad .
Is all a matter of looking around , you really don't have to spend a fortune on a car which is more than 10 years old .
And thanks to You tube most of the things can be done at home !
All the best to everyone .
Very good video , thanks .
A $900 to $1,000 "plan B" maintinace on my wifes 2011 E350 coasted me in parts not even $150. The cabin filter was simple to change. I replaced the twin engine air filters with K&N for better fuel economy. Then brought it to a shop that specializes in German and Italian cars & got the oil changed, greased a couple spots and the car checked for any problems for $160. Doing simple maintenance yourself saves butt loads of money.
I had '04 CL600 (same twin turbo engine and ABS system). I bought it for $14K and it had 86K miles on it, beautiful dark metallic brown with tan leather interior. I did the coil packs, a set of spark plugs (all 24 of 'em), oil / filter change and the ignition computer (the box on front top of the engine) - all for about $1,750 total. It took me all day (about 7 hours - I'm not a trained mechanic, just your average guy with average mechanical skills). I did also have to replace some vacuum hoses that sit under the coil packs because they were brittle and broke (careful mapping of these is extremely important! - take pics). I did all the work at home in the garage - no lift, no power tools. I did also have an ABS hose break. Too hard for me to fix in the garage at home (I did not have a lift). I took it to a local independent mechanic and he replaced it for $800, including flushing and changing the ABS fluid and filter. I had the car for 3 years, drove it like I stole it and sold for $9K. Cheap, no, but driving a $135K car for less than a used late model toyota - I'll take it. YMMV.
Once again Alex, the video rocks, keep up the great work and I love you "snubbing" Doug D. hahahaha. How, you are still not WAY above 100k subscribers is beyond me.. seriously. I love how you take a lot of the "fear" and mystery out of owning and maintaining expensive German cars after they've been on the road a while. Question, every think of doing an older BMW (E90 or E39) M car DIY? Or are the Bimmers totally crap after a 100k?? LOL
Andrew Poziomka Thanks Andrew. I'll admit I've fixed a few BMWs not have never really gotten into them. But I'd like to buy an M5 and start to learn everything I can. I think it could offer some great content coming from a Mercedes guys perspective.
$10k in initial repairs, and ~3k a year for the other random stuff yearly going forward ain't all that bad if you're really raking in the dough and own the car outright (no auto loan on it).
TheHvk thats pretty much mandatory, its a killer ride!
But takes fuel like cun t and may be/ gets destroyed by bigger turbo diesels, 3Litre+ is insane
well, it's a v12 exotic coupe, it has to be the cheapest to live with in that class
Except it's a "dead horse."
Hey how about covering old mercedes benz cars like w123 or w124. I currently own a w123 230ce euro spec. Maintenance is quite frustrating
Hey Angelo. I started with Mercedes in 2003 and honestly I don't have much experience with the older models. Check out Mercedes Source here on TH-cam. He is the master of the older Mercedes and he's super knowledgable.
Angelo Reyno theirs a lot of DIY online. I have a W124 and lots of articles on my car
A 230ce is cheap to run here in Germany and they are from a time where Mercedes was still bullit prove (till W124 and W126 actually). Maybe you look at the wrong places. I dont know how much tax or customs you must pay but maybe its a good idea to get the parts here and ship them. If you need some help to find stuff let me know. Maybe i can help you there. Good place to start is: www.kfzteile24.de
Marc Nobel hi marc thanks for the great recommendation however importing stuff here from where im from is quite hard - taxes and redtape is the main issue with the customs. Apart from the customs issue its hard to find a reliable old benz mechanic as all of them have already died by now. My goto mechanic has already died 2 years so the hasnt been used also for 2 years, we only start the car once a week just to make sure that the engine wont seize up. By the way is there an english version or english tools for the website you gave me. Appreciate the help in advance.
Yes, iportin stuff is different everywhere but sometimes you can be creative to go around those costs. Sending stuff to the family in Brazil mostly as Birthday gifts :D There is no English Version of the page direcly but you can use the translator plugin of chrome for example. If you search something specific i can help you for sure and send you the direct link. Answer can be delayed as we have 01:00 AM here and I have to get up in about 6 hours. When you need help - just ask. With the mechanics sounds bad. We have them here at each corner as Mercedes is daily business here. Like Chevy in the US its everywhere and so its not really hard to find one. In a non brand shop you pay like 20 Euros per hour and if you want it really cheap you bring it over to poland and fix it there. Same quality as a lot of guys worked over here before. So really a different situation.
Was this Scotty Kilmer in the Honda?
vdochev Most underrated comment right here...
No; because you couldn't hear him shout "Rev up your engines".
LOL! But wouldn't Scotty be in a Toyota?
😁😁😁😁👍 Toyota,ROFl 😁
Gold one.
I'm a DIY guy..
Thanks for the Great Content..I've been looking at these..
A nice reality check video. These cars are entirely serviceable, ABC & Arnott are fine and frankly, there's no substitute for the M275 engine. In 20 years it won't be those little V-8's that bring the collector money. My SL65 pays me back every time the starter whirs and 12 eager friends come to life. I would say leaking engine mounts are the biggest headache to look for. On the SL65 the engine comes out whereas on the CL it can stay in. Turbo oil lines also an issue. I try to buy from FCP, but unfortunately, they do not carry the ignition coil packs for the SL65.
Nice video. Thank you
Not gonna tell them about the joy of releasing that quick disconnect on the rear struts? Lol, love the channel dude. I'm a team lead with Mercedes, 15 years with the brand. This is awesome that you're giving enthusiasts a great resource on the brand. You have a new subscriber.
Got a 2005 w220 s65, i didnt buy it after hearing his statement, but i drove one and loved it, i bought one and cost me 4k to fix, it has 80 000km on it, it is amazing
Got CL55k here. Just converted to coilovers for $1100. Did the work myself. Drives just fine, but will add front strut bar when getting rid of tandem pump soon
I just bought a 2003 CL600 with a Brabus "Complete Spec". List on the car was $126K in 2003 dollars. Brabus was another 50K. The car is super fully loaded. So so condition 100K miles. Bought it knowing it was rough. I like wrenching and thought about how insane it would be to have a German V12 automobile as a father daughter project.
I broke the rules and bought the cheapest one I could find since it was a dealer who was taking my BMW X5. It had 103K miles, clean car fax and records. Mostly dealer serviced until the last owner who had an Indi shop do the work. Have records of two new front hydraulic struts, pads, rotors, front end rebuilt. The car ran like crap though, and after parsing the v12icpack videos I knew one or both coils needed replacement. Interior maybe an 7-8. Massage and ventilation on seats no op, rear windows no op,
small scrape dent rear pass qtr panel but not seen 10 feet away. Car was not garaged the last few years and plenty of hood paint chips. out the door about $7500. Designio Mocha Black :) on black interior. Car looks great super clean 12-15 ft away. It has the huge amg bremebos all around since it had all the option boxes checked off.
1) coil packs from V12icpack.com $699 each. I have never done one and it took me less than an hour per side. Fixed misfire.
2) I repaired a few interior parts that looked bad but very easy to JB weld, plastic and clips and some love. The rear window module for the back windows $50 on eBay. Under the rear seat super easy to fix.
3)have all the parts to replace the nitrogen balls front back and rebound. Looks simple enough.
4) bought a MB star laptop for about $800
5) abc light on from pad sensor $10 ? and two seconds to get brake light off.
The car is stunning to look at. You do need to be a little adventurous and have a decent set of tools. Also an ok garage. I have expendable income and this is not my daily.
Otherwise you can try to find an "old camaro" rusted out POS for two or three time the money. Sure no ABC but come on. Put this thing next to any "classic" that is cheaper to repair? No contest. And you get street cred because 90% of the people driving these at this point are gear heads. I figure I'll have 11K in the thing and not have to worry about much for a while. And it's one of the coolest looking cars you will see on the road. Next car will be an sl600. 2003 or so. Next time I will pay more for a garaged example. Better cosmetics are worth the money FOR SURE.
It would be interesting to see that for a BMW E38, because its an amazing and affordable luxury car as well.
i see these all the time living in orange county ca. i was always worried about the maintenance costs, but now it looks like i have to buy one. thanks bro.
Thanks for this video! I would love to own one of these, although i don’t think i could afford the maintenance. The cl65 is a fine car!
Cody Burns that's true bro. I have a CL550 and the repair prices are out of this world. I had the car for about 3 years now and I put altogether over 7k
I work at various car dealerships, and I always love when they will sell a 1 year old lease turn in and say "ONE OWNER!" on the car. I would hope it's one owner lol.
One/Two owner for 12 years is another story, that's a good thing. Actually I paid 20% more for my car than bluebook price in 2012 because it was 12 years old, one owner, and it had the engine replace with a factory fresh small block. The car was a Saab, and at the time they still had dealerships (barely), but I bought it at a Saab dealership so the 20% cost knowing Saab mechanics put a new motor in it was fine with me. Honestly the only thing that has failed are the front boots on the front axle, rust hole in the muffler, and I guess really that's it and I still own and drive the car.
man! this vid is what we call a vid with good content
great information and well put together! thanks. I have a cl500 2000 year model. I love it. Yes it cost a fair amount to maintain. However you really do only live once and its an unbelievable car. Even in 2022 it looks good and has aged well inside and out. Highly recommended.
but my "bumper to bumper" warranty...
Great video. I bought a w220 S65 after this video and love it. You should add one to your collection!!
Another good video man. These cars are fast and nice to drive, but be prepared to wrench like tavarish🤣.
You should drive ur review cars more!
When I was a tech at MB, had a customer spend $6k on his S65 doing brakes just to trade it in 2 weeks later.
That engine cover...I walked into the parts department with the part number, told them we had to “goodwill” this piece because I broke it. A few keyboard clicks later, it was silent. I believe it was $6k at the time? Thank god that was just a joke!
The arnott tip is the key. I use these bags on my BMW touring.
i own a 2005 s600 with that system .. the best riding car i ever had .. just check on the system fluids every now and then and DONT cheap out specially on maintenance for that system
would you be able to swap out the ABC struts with an aftermarket air suspension ie AIRREX or a more reliable coilover system?
spoke too soon you answered the question towards the end lol. Need swaybars!
Staring at that GM High Tech feature on your trans am behind you sure makes me miss that magazine, my all time favorite magazine GM High Tech!
Great Video Alex..! Do the CL 55’s have the same suspensions? And the rest?
Last year I bought one of the cheapest CL600’s I could find, it took a full year before it gave me a single issue and I ended up recently doing a coil over swap myself. I did it as cheap as I could (no I did not install the sway bars but it seems to handle just fine) but the parts were $1200 for all 4 coil overs and probably an extra $100 in tools I needed to buy for the swap. Other than that I’m surprised with how reliable it has been, always starts up, never left me stranded. So far I feel like I’ve had a lucky experience with a 14 year old V12. Oh the oil changes are expensive too but that’s a given when your engine takes something like 13 quarts of oil.
How many miles are you car and how much did you pay if dont mind me asking?
I have one of the 66 sold in North America in 2006. Luxury super car. Future classic. This one in the video was borrowed from AutoBarn in Evanston. Il. I checked, today, and it's gone. Finding a low mileage, well maintained, for $30k or less is an absolute steal. Just do it, you won't regret it.
I loved this video... I'd like your advice and will shoot you an email if that's ok.
I actually have a better example of a 2005 CL65 than Doug DeMuro had in his video and have been on the fence about either selling it or keeping it for some time. It is probably the best, lowest mileage example of this car I've ever come across. I purchased it at 34,800 miles in 2013 and currently have near 39,000 miles on it and have done most of the trouble maintenance outlined in your video while it was under warranty... I had a kickass warranty from an Exotic Car warranty company out of Las Vegas which my independent shop in Arlington Heights said was the best warranty company they ever dealt with... Coils replaced, ABC accumulator replaced because it was whining and a couple other things including the motor mounts (since one was almost toast) so I did the trans mounts as well. Also all new brakes for 3k total (front and rear) installed with all Merc OEM... Great shop in Arlington Heights for Mercs. I'm about to ship the car home to Arizona, but need some advice if you're willing... I'll send an email.
I would love to see a video of what to expect buying a clean daily driver W220, something like an S430 or S500 4matic with the airmatic suspension. I'm always hearing these are reliable motors and the 5 speed is solid but the internet will try to tell you that any pre owned German luxo barge sedan will cost you $20k in repairs annually.
Watching your videos (especially the one of the old escalade esv) made me decide I'm going to try to fix my hummer h2 up myself rather than sell it.
Annnd this is why I love TH-cam 🤟
Also worth mentioning is if youre going to work on these its well worth investing in an autel that will let you do a lot of dealer capabilities
nick elias I'm going to do a lot with DIY cheaper scanners this year so I'll definitely get into that.
Awesome video!!
I rented an 09 SL 65 AMG on Turo with a weekend rate of $98/day. It was by far the most powerful car on Turo under $100 (18 Camaro 2SS had the best rate at $79). 604 hp 738 Ibs ft torque. You're driving a sleeper Supercar. I wouldn't want to own that car. The SL 65 had a check engine light blinking and a right strut that needed replacement. The car was a steal on Turo Los Angeles but you can buy a used Kia Rio for the price of all the items in the Mercedes that are due for service.
LOL I actually was about to mock Doug in a video about my truck! "This - Is a 2005 Hooptie!"
I love your videos! You are a inspiratation. Keep up the good work! MB4Ever! I have the same interior in my w211 E-class as your E55 AMG, exept mine is a E220 CDI lol :D Sporty design, not so sporty engine lol :))
Should’ve mentioned the accumulators on the abc pump. I’ve done quite a few of those for whining in the ABC system.