Hi Lance, I farm in Lancashire, NW England. Until 2 weeks ago there's no way on earth I'd have taken the lift cover off our TED20 tractor. After watching your videos, my son and I have removed and stripped the cover, in our workshop, and are replacing some parts and cleaning up the old ones to be put back. Thanks for making these easy to follow videos, keep 'em coming.
Another thumbs up from North East England here too Lance. 👍🏼 Your videos have been a great resource for a newbie tractor owner. Also with a ‘52. Many thanks!
Thank you so much for the great videos on the Ferguson hydraulics. I got my 9N running after 5 years. It's turning the brush hog but no longer lifting. Thanks to you I'll give it a go on the cover and probably the pump. Stumbled across your other odd old engine rebuilds and they're great too. Thank you from the Ozarks USA
Thanks for your help Lance , and a very speedy reply ! Looks like I am going to have a busy day ….. Ha ha . At least I know what to get on with . Keep up the good work , your videos meant that I could bring my tractor back to life , first rally was at Cupar , Scotland 12th June this year ….. Amazing fun ! Ted
Hi again Lance, you took the words out of my mouth when you used the wood chisel to open the locking tabs 😂 Once again another great video. One can see why these old tractors are well worth the effort to give them another life. All solid meaty metal parts and very little alloy stand the test of time, makes you think of how well things were made yesteryear with all manual machinery, non of the cnc ones people use nowadays, probably why most newer stuff is made from alloy, most cnc machines wouldn't last long enough to make half a dozen using proper metal 😆 thanks for sharing, cheers Derek
Thanks Derek, No I'm sure we wont be able to even buy the plastic for some of the new machines when they are 70 years old let alone get a wiring harness
That's what we call and my dad called it, opossum piss or panther piss lol!! I wish u was my neighbor lol I'm in in the USA I'm glade I found your videos.. my dad and uncle were MEC over 50 plus yrs and still work on stuff, I love building stuff it's like bring it back from the dead lol Great video once again👍👍
Thanks Charlie, Yeah possum piss is good stuff when it is in a can or a bottle lol. Restoring stuff is a great hobby and should keep our minds active at least , hopefully. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Another brilliant one, Bundy Bear. Thank you for demystifying the innards of my TEA20. Mine is a '52 so I imagine it's very similar to your '48...Plus you've answered the two questions I had: a) how does the oil get from the pump down below to the piston up above...? and b) why do my hydraulics leak down over a few hours when the engine is off....? Thanks again.
Thanks. The oil comes up the r/h side of the housing in a drilling, the piston rings have gaps in them for fitting them so they must leak down it is how they are made, the more wear on the rings the faster it will leak.
Good evening Lance , I found your videos very helpful when I restored my 1950 TED20 a couple of years ago . On for your advice tonight as I had some trouble as I picked up a cultivator tonight from a nearby sale . I think it was because I turned off the pto when the cultivator was in a raised position . Oil came spurting out from the top cover joint just bye my right leg ( as I was sitting on the tractor ) the cultivator then dropped to the ground . The pump seems to be working okay , as the oil was spurting out . Just looking for you advice as to what I should be looking to repair when I take off the top cover ? Many thanks , Ted
You can change the yoke with the top cover on if it is not rusted in. You can remove the pump and leave the top on and have the top off with the pump still in. Just undo the control valve on the pump first so you dont damage it.
G'day Lance, gee you crack me up, (more ass than Jessy the elephant ). Good one, you know watching you like I have since you have been on TH-cam mucking around with these lovely tractors is starting me thinking to restore a little Fergey myself. Thanks mate John. PS rug up if your going down south, what a climate shock!
G day John, How are you going, coming along alright? Yeah I might even get my coat out or take it at least, hopefully if it is cool at least it will be sunny for us, I hate cold rainy days, especially if I don't have a shed to go to lol. The little Fergies are a cheap tractor to do up they are fun and very light to cart around to shows etc. I think that is part of the reason for their popularity.
Bundy Bears Shed thanks for getting back to me, I'm getting better everyday still on crutches and the Iv antibiotics will end around the 20th of next month, it depends on how the blood tests are. Kind regards John
Hi Lance. You have inspired me to have a go at doing my hydraulics on a TEF that I recently bought but when I have taken the lift cover off, there is no bottom end to the yoke. Do you know anywhere I can buy one?
@@BundyBearsShed I have checked and there is definitely nothing in the bottom and I have searched all over the internet for one but can't find anything. I know this is a big ask but is it possible for you to send a couple of pictures with important measurements on it. I am going to try and get one made. Thanks
Greetings, i have a 1948 to20 s/n 369. was my grandfathers. Lift doesn't work. i noticed a plug on the upper lift cover where from the circular exploration hole you can feel a tube going up into the cover from the pump to the lift. i know some say to take the lift cover off and run the tractor to see if oil is coming out that tube. if so, the pump is good. if not, pump might be bad. anyway, i took the little plug out without taking off the lift cover and with the pto engaged, no fluid comes out. do i assume the pump is bad? i have fluid to the bottom of the inspection hole and there is some turbulence when the pto is engaged. Is this a good test? Also, do i have to take the lift assy off if i am just rebuilding the pump? Or is it best practice to take both out as long as i am tearing things apart? Thank you, Lance from Wisconsin, USA.
You can drop out the pump on the early ones but you still need to remove the pto. I would check if the control valve is working eg: moving back and forth from looking in the side covers.
@@BundyBearsShed Hi there, so i got the pump out and will be getting it cleaned up and a new kit. the control valve does not go in and out with the quadrant lever, it would just flex up and down.
Hello Lance, I have a Massey Ferguson 20C industrial tractor with the Perkins 3 cylinder diesel in it. Made in the late 70's. How similar is that to the TE20 series tractor you work on? I'm having lift cover / hydraulic lift issues with mine.
Hi Lance, just to clarify a little. Do you have both a TEA20 and a TEF20 tractor you are working on? In the beginning of this video you mention a TEA20, but the diesel-pump you were working on eralier, must be of a TEF, not a TEA tractor? Best regards Karsten Jørgensen
Can anyone tell me please, the lift / lower lever has broken, can I undo the 4 retaining bolts as per this video, and slide it out without taking the whole lid off ? At the moment I have a ring spanner which does the job, but looks rubbish..any info will be appreciated.
Hi Lance, hope your keeping well, great video. Quick question, there is play on one of the lift arms on my Fergie 35 and it's leaking a bit of oil. Is it just the bushing and can I replace it without removing the lift cover and a full disassembly?
My name is Dave and I cringe when you take a hammer to the end of those shafts,also those shafts with threads. You need some brass drifts and a brass hammer.
hi there i have a tea20 and when ever i have my slasher going it raises up and i need to keep holding down the lever whilst slashing , so over it , any idea what could be the problem of hand before i dive into removing the hydraulic system . cheers Larry
"I've had more arse than Jessie the elephant" ??? lol - I've not heard that before, whats that mean? you've had a lot of good luck? lol I'll have to use that from now on!!!
Hi Lance, I farm in Lancashire, NW England. Until 2 weeks ago there's no way on earth I'd have taken the lift cover off our TED20 tractor. After watching your videos, my son and I have removed and stripped the cover, in our workshop, and are replacing some parts and cleaning up the old ones to be put back. Thanks for making these easy to follow videos, keep 'em coming.
Thanks Peter, Glad you get something from them.
Another thumbs up from North East England here too Lance. 👍🏼 Your videos have been a great resource for a newbie tractor owner. Also with a ‘52. Many thanks!
Thank you so much for the great videos on the Ferguson hydraulics. I got my 9N running after 5 years. It's turning the brush hog but no longer lifting. Thanks to you I'll give it a go on the cover and probably the pump.
Stumbled across your other odd old engine rebuilds and they're great too.
Thank you from the Ozarks USA
Thanks for dropping in for a look.
Thanks for your help Lance , and a very speedy reply ! Looks like I am going to have a busy day ….. Ha ha . At least I know what to get on with . Keep up the good work , your videos meant that I could bring my tractor back to life , first rally was at Cupar , Scotland 12th June this year ….. Amazing fun ! Ted
No worries!
Thanks Lance another great video, and lots of parts to clean and reassemble, on I go to the next video to see how it rebuilds.Cheers.
Hopefully I can keep up.
Hi again Lance, you took the words out of my mouth when you used the wood chisel to open the locking tabs 😂 Once again another great video. One can see why these old tractors are well worth the effort to give them another life. All solid meaty metal parts and very little alloy stand the test of time, makes you think of how well things were made yesteryear with all manual machinery, non of the cnc ones people use nowadays, probably why most newer stuff is made from alloy, most cnc machines wouldn't last long enough to make half a dozen using proper metal 😆 thanks for sharing, cheers Derek
Thanks Derek, No I'm sure we wont be able to even buy the plastic for some of the new machines when they are 70 years old let alone get a wiring harness
That's what we call and my dad called it, opossum piss or panther piss lol!! I wish u was my neighbor lol I'm in in the USA I'm glade I found your videos.. my dad and uncle were MEC over 50 plus yrs and still work on stuff, I love building stuff it's like bring it back from the dead lol Great video once again👍👍
Thanks Charlie, Yeah possum piss is good stuff when it is in a can or a bottle lol. Restoring stuff is a great hobby and should keep our minds active at least , hopefully. Thanks for watching and commenting.
Another brilliant one, Bundy Bear. Thank you for demystifying the innards of my TEA20. Mine is a '52 so I imagine it's very similar to your '48...Plus you've answered the two questions I had: a) how does the oil get from the pump down below to the piston up above...? and b) why do my hydraulics leak down over a few hours when the engine is off....? Thanks again.
Thanks. The oil comes up the r/h side of the housing in a drilling, the piston rings have gaps in them for fitting them so they must leak down it is how they are made, the more wear on the rings the faster it will leak.
absolutely brilliant, thank you so much for doing these videos
Glad you like them!
Good evening Lance , I found your videos very helpful when I restored my 1950 TED20 a couple of years ago . On for your advice tonight as I had some trouble as I picked up a cultivator tonight from a nearby sale . I think it was because I turned off the pto when the cultivator was in a raised position . Oil came spurting out from the top cover joint just bye my right leg ( as I was sitting on the tractor ) the cultivator then dropped to the ground . The pump seems to be working okay , as the oil was spurting out . Just looking for you advice as to what I should be looking to repair when I take off the top cover ? Many thanks , Ted
It sounds like the gasket between the gearbox housing and the lift cover has blown. That is how the oil gets to the top.
Just had a we chuckle having just come in from shed after doing exactly what you did with the chisel....
Great minds think alike eh, lol.
Can you change the draw spring yoke with out removing the top cover and do you remove the oil pump first .thanks rick
You can change the yoke with the top cover on if it is not rusted in. You can remove the pump and leave the top on and have the top off with the pump still in. Just undo the control valve on the pump first so you dont damage it.
G'day Lance, gee you crack me up, (more ass than Jessy the elephant ). Good one, you know watching you like I have since you have been on TH-cam mucking around with these lovely tractors is starting me thinking to restore a little Fergey myself. Thanks mate John. PS rug up if your going down south, what a climate shock!
G day John, How are you going, coming along alright? Yeah I might even get my coat out or take it at least, hopefully if it is cool at least it will be sunny for us, I hate cold rainy days, especially if I don't have a shed to go to lol. The little Fergies are a cheap tractor to do up they are fun and very light to cart around to shows etc. I think that is part of the reason for their popularity.
Bundy Bears Shed thanks for getting back to me, I'm getting better everyday still on crutches and the Iv antibiotics will end around the 20th of next month, it depends on how the blood tests are. Kind regards John
Hi Lance. You have inspired me to have a go at doing my hydraulics on a TEF that I recently bought but when I have taken the lift cover off, there is no bottom end to the yoke. Do you know anywhere I can buy one?
Some valves come with the yoke on it but check it is not in the bottom somewhere.
@@BundyBearsShed I have checked and there is definitely nothing in the bottom and I have searched all over the internet for one but can't find anything. I know this is a big ask but is it possible for you to send a couple of pictures with important measurements on it. I am going to try and get one made. Thanks
Very good
Thanks
Can you take the lever out with them 4 bolts with the top still on the tractor
Yes you can
Greetings, i have a 1948 to20 s/n 369. was my grandfathers. Lift doesn't work. i noticed a plug on the upper lift cover where from the circular exploration hole you can feel a tube going up into the cover from the pump to the lift. i know some say to take the lift cover off and run the tractor to see if oil is coming out that tube. if so, the pump is good. if not, pump might be bad. anyway, i took the little plug out without taking off the lift cover and with the pto engaged, no fluid comes out. do i assume the pump is bad? i have fluid to the bottom of the inspection hole and there is some turbulence when the pto is engaged. Is this a good test? Also, do i have to take the lift assy off if i am just rebuilding the pump? Or is it best practice to take both out as long as i am tearing things apart? Thank you, Lance from Wisconsin, USA.
You can drop out the pump on the early ones but you still need to remove the pto. I would check if the control valve is working eg: moving back and forth from looking in the side covers.
@@BundyBearsShed Hi there, so i got the pump out and will be getting it cleaned up and a new kit. the control valve does not go in and out with the quadrant lever, it would just flex up and down.
Hello Lance, I have a Massey Ferguson 20C industrial tractor with the Perkins 3 cylinder diesel in it. Made in the late 70's. How similar is that to the TE20 series tractor you work on? I'm having lift cover / hydraulic lift issues with mine.
Yours will be closer to the MF135. I did a playlist on the 135.
@@BundyBearsShed thanks, I will check that out.
Hi Lance, just to clarify a little. Do you have both a TEA20 and a TEF20 tractor you are working on? In the beginning of this video you mention a TEA20, but the diesel-pump you were working on eralier, must be of a TEF, not a TEA tractor?
Best regards
Karsten Jørgensen
Karsten Jorgensen yeah a TEA 20 a TEF20 and a Ford 4600 on the go at present
Can anyone tell me please, the lift / lower lever has broken, can I undo the 4 retaining bolts as per this video, and slide it out without taking the whole lid off ? At the moment I have a ring spanner which does the job, but looks rubbish..any info will be appreciated.
It should just come straight out.
Bundy...thanks for your reply...
Hi Lance, hope your keeping well, great video. Quick question, there is play on one of the lift arms on my Fergie 35 and it's leaking a bit of oil. Is it just the bushing and can I replace it without removing the lift cover and a full disassembly?
I believe so, Pull the arm and the bushes are often quite loose and there is often room for an extra o ring.
@@BundyBearsShed that's great, thanks very much
My name is Dave and I cringe when you take a hammer to the end of those shafts,also those shafts with threads. You need some brass drifts and a brass hammer.
Old video this from 2017.
Great video but ffs get a copper Hyde mallet for smashing shafts out of bronze bushes. My inner tool maker was crying 😢
Sorry to hear that
hi there i have a tea20 and when ever i have my slasher going it raises up and i need to keep holding down the lever whilst slashing , so over it , any idea what could be the problem of hand before i dive into removing the hydraulic system . cheers Larry
They dont have position control, look up fergy positioner on google..
@@BundyBearsShed thanks heaps mate , enjoying your videos very helpful
"I've had more arse than Jessie the elephant" ??? lol - I've not heard that before, whats that mean? you've had a lot of good luck? lol I'll have to use that from now on!!!
G day Steve, Yeah it means I have been lucky usually you say I'm arsier than Jessie the elephant etc lol. hope you have fun with it.
What engine can u put in TE20 which line up and bolt together diesel apart from p3 Engine.😁😂
Probably a 23C Diesel but Im not sure it would bolt straight up.
A double dunter 😀