How to Adjust the Hydraulics on a Ferguson TE20 Tractor
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- Hello Im Lance (aka Bundy Bear) and doing these videos is my hobby. I do own Queensland Tractor Spares in Australia where I sell parts and offer technical advise to customers.
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Thanks Lance, This is the first time that I have heard and seen the draft control fully explained and how to adjust the system. Harry Ferguson certainly was ahead of his time. Thank you for a great video. Regards, Charles @ Nerimbera.
Thanks Charles, Yes he was.
Thanks Lance, another great helpful video. You have helped me so much restoring my two Fergusons. Have a great and safe day.
Thanks, you too!
Thanks Lance, its simple when you know how and this video makes it chrystal clear. I'm back in isolation again so plenty time to watch your videos and enjoy the content
Glad it helped!
Thank you for your videos! I have recently bought a 1960 massey TO35. Have never had a tractor before. So I am learning while I am restoring this ol tractor! thank you again!
Glad to help
Hey Lance I have watched ur vedios I hav a problem with my hydrolics I have made the adjustments u show but the arms raise but they will push back down early? What should I try now ?
My tractor is a 1953 t0-30 thanks for ur vedios Herb Wilkinson fl.
Thanks Lance, I have been looking forward to this video for a long time. It's been well worth waiting for. Thanks for your usual high standard of presentation. Very much appreciated. Jim, Dublin Ireland.
Thanks Jim glad you found it helpful.
another great video 👍
Thank you for taking the time and explaining everything in all these videos they’re greatly appreciated
Glad you like them!
thanks Lance, you make things look so easy
I do a lot of looking first to work out how best to present things.
Lance , been watching you for two years solid. Because of you I got my Te20 running in 2020 after it sat for 20 years. Thanks for doing what you do Lance. This video is is the only one I could find for this explanation and walkthrough
Glad to hear it! I did the video as there wasnt much on this out there and it does seem popular.
Ya, ours has been sitting for about 20 years too. I just started on it this spring and because of this video, I think I should be able to finish fixing our tractor. I definitely appreciate this guys video.
As usual, informative, warts and all, showing the tricks to overcome the real problems encountered.
Thanks Colin.
Thanks a lot from rainy old England. I just got a 1955 TE20 so Im going to be watching your videos regularly. you make it understandable to a muppet like me All the best you you Bundy from the 75 year old teenager Terry
Good luck!
Thanks Lance, a really good video, you've really done an excellent show and tell.
Glad you enjoyed it
Thanks Lance, you instructions were excellent. I’ve had this kit fitted for a few years and never handed it adjusted properly. Just did a heap of slashing and it worked perfectly after I followed your instructions.
Cheers
Wayne
Great to hear!
Good job Lance very good explanation of tea 20 draught control
Thankyou.
I messaged you about a week ago about my freshly rebuilt pump bot working. I ended up taking the valve chamber clamp bolts out and filling the valve chambers full of oil and the oil tube and that took care of the problem. I believe the pump was just air locked. Thank you for this video, my draft control and quadrant both need adjusted.
You're a big help!
Nice work!
Thanks so much! My brush hog was dropping and driving me crazy. Excited to be able to adjust this system!
The O ring piston helps tremendously as well.
You did an excellent job explaining and videoing how to adjust the hydraulics. I have a ‘51 Ferguson TO 20 and the lift arms are constantly drifting up and down as the tractor is moving, depending upon the engine RPM’s. I’m going to do the steps you showed in the video to see if I can get that stopped. Thanks so much for posting. Best Wishes from WV, USA
Thanks, you too!
Hey Lance , First of all Thank You. I'm 62 and just getting back into tractors and found a 51' TO-20 and it wasnt running right and just following along with you, I now have a great running tractor and it still has points . I may switch it over someday but for now not a spit of sputter so Im putting her to work. Thanks again from OKC Oklahoma
Glad to help, thanks for watching.
Just wanted to say thanks for this video, very clear explanation that allowed me to fix my TO-30. Draft control was so out of adjustment it'd judder lifting nothing. Adjuster was rusted solid, took lots of heat to free it up, but worked exactly as you said!
Thankyou, That is good news, that is why I do the videos.
That's bloody brilliant,the years I've used my old fergie with a ratchet strap holding implements at the right level and the hydraulic lever right down, now I know where to start sorting it out, thanks very much 👍👍
Fantastic!
Great video Lance - Harry Ferguson, what a genius!
Indeed!
I've started hitting the thumbs up at the beginning of your vids, just so I don't forget at the end. :D Shout out to the dogs for being really good.
Thanks Merv
Fantastic mate, I just bought one if these in museum cond from my dad who slashed his land for the last time.. just turned 86... he never thought anything of it when the slasher dropped on it own.. as he toggled the control control I guess.. he came with a friend To show me how it worked.. and I was surprised to hear it wouldn’t stay up when driving up the rd.. his friend must have seen you before I guess and told my dad after the visit and sent a direct link to you on the exact adjustments I need ti know.. great video mate and thank you.. salt of the earth
Thanks Steve, I hope it gets you sorted out.
Good explanation Lance. Thanks.
Very welcome
Good Video, thanks for the detailed explanation. I should be able to tackle this with some degree of confidence. My project remains on hold the weather improves and I get inspired once again.TTFN/CDC Alberta Canada
I hope it helps out.
Great clear instruction how its adjusted, thx for the video
Glad it helped
Thanks so much for this excellent video going to adjust mine soon. Thanks again
Glad to help.
Nice job on this series Mr. Bear...I don't own any Fergusons yet, only the N Fords but I find it interesting how similar they are.
Yes a lot of parts are interchangeable I think this would work on them
Hi Lance thanks for the content
My pleasure!
As always Lance great work there's nothing like owning a grey Ferguson 👌
Couldn't agree more!
Thanks Lance,you always give good advice and explanations on how the te20 works(and others)always enjoy your videos a truly dedicated fan of yours thankyou so much, for someone like me who has not got a clue,joe south lakes cumbria uk
This helps to understand how it works, Thanks!
Thanks. You are welcome.
Thank you for the very informative video!
My pleasure!
Thanks a ton I can't wait to try this I've been messing with a 1950 to 20 I drive 3 miles a day to and from work and do mowing and scraping/blading but I have response issues on mine I'm gonna mess with it this week and try this
Good luck!
Thanks man that was very helpful. Now I know that I shouldn't have to take the whole housing cover under the seat off. Very helpful, I appreciate the video. We got the same exact tractor, I think. Everything on it looks the same. So ya, thanks again.
Glad it helps.
For that time it’s a great system and works well
This really improved farming and less chance of turning it over also
The Fergy was the leader in tractor hydraulics for many years
Dog is good help he’s make sure your doing it right 😆. Thanks for the good explanation I will try mine tomorrow
I hope it goes well.
That old girl starts up and runs absolutely beautifully!
Yes it does. very pleased with it.
Very cool I had no idea what that spring was for. I have 1940 Ford 9N I am working on myself. Good info to know.
Glad to help
First class a big help many thanks
You're very welcome!
Quality video mate. 👍
Out of curiosity, do you have any idea what sort of hydraulic pressure they operate at?
I think you should get 2000psi ok.
Hello mate , it,s a masterstroke putting an O ring in as the backup lift cylinder piston ring , as you,ve found out , it stops the linkage slowly sinking over time , looks like a good idea to me , for all of you out there that do this , make a point of lifting & lowering your Fergie,s linkage a few times a week , this will keep the inside diameter of the lift cylinder oiled up , clean & workable . it,s surprising just how sensitive the ferguson system is , as you,ve shown , finding the right spot is everything , not everybody would have the patience or knowledge to achieve it , well done from the old country .
Thanks Phillip, this has made a great difference for sure.
Thanks Lance I learnt a lot out of the adjustment hydraulic procedure . I would be interested in seeing the procedure for the MF 35 series if you ever do one. Thanks Lance
Second that one. Would love to see how it works with the positional control.
Noted!
Probably will cover that on the MF65 series coning up next.
@@BundyBearsShed will be waiting
@@BundyBearsShed I would love to see the mf35 also
Thanks Lance. Thought my 56 was a little lazy on the backend. Was dropping to the ground shortly after I turn her off.
Normal for one of these old tractors
Thank you Lance. 🍻
My pleasure!
Great video thanks
Glad you enjoyed it
THANK YOU VERY MUCH!
You're welcome!
Excellent
Thanks
Most welcome
Hi Lance, Great video once again. I need to replace the D threaded rod as the spring system is rusted an very loose. My lift was working but not dropping. When I push against the spring and drop lever the lift arms drop. Will replacement of the components solve my lift issue?
Yes I believe so
Great video! You know you’re Fergies! I have an MF240, without pressure control.., Should my draft control lever start lowering the arms when the lever is between the “hash line marks” on quadrant?
I dont think so. I would have to have a fiddle on mine to be sure.
Hi Lance, been a while since I had a look at this particular video, the relief valve on my TEA has started to whistle over the last couple of weeks and there must have been something in the mechanism inside that has gone out of adjustment, or bent, or broken, the lever is working okay up to about 2/3rds of the quadrant and further up than that the relief valve blows.
So using your video I'll try the simple fix first, cheers all.
Hopefully you get it sorted, it is a simple system so not too hard to diagnose.
@@BundyBearsShed Problem solved, some twit 'called me' had put the check chain brackets on upside down and the dirt from using the scoop hid the obvious until I washed it off. Some mothers do have them.
Hi Lance, thanks a million for your awesome videos. I have a quick question, my TD20 will only tip my Marshall trailer when the trailer is unhitched from the drawbar, no problem, but when the trailer is hitched up, she won’t pump the ram on the trailer, any ides what’s up with that? Greetings from Scotland!🏴👌
Does it hook up to the top link in any way? If so it will be spring adjustment, If not Im not sure you wouldnt think it would make a difference.
Very interesting
Thanks.
Thats class Lance , would the hydraulics in a fordson dexter be similar? Thanks for this video. Kind regards Dan
I cant really say but Im on a lookout for a Dexta for the channel
I wish to see one for the 100 series. We have a 188 that's needing lift cover adjustment
I dont have one to do at present.
Lance, great Videos, could I ask your advice on the lift operation of the TE20, I want to move implements between locations without any drop, is it ok to leave the lift lever fully aft with the PTO engaged (Fully lifted) for long periods (30 mins) or would this cause damage to the pump etc?
It should be ok as when any implement is carried that is how it is done.
@@BundyBearsShed thank you, much appreciated
When I got my link box on mine creeps down with engine of if I got it of the floor a bit doing what u did in video sort that many thanks John look forward to ur advice lance from a pom from.over the pond lol
Great video Lance and I found the last part interesting too where the hydraulics don't go down with the tractor turned off. With my fergy I mostly have a carryall on the back and if I turn off the tractor the carryall starts going down slowly and faster if there is a load of wood or whatever on the back or it drops like a sack of potatoes while running and I release the lever. Would that mean the control valve or O ring is buggered? Because iv always wondered why it does that. Cheers Lance!
No the reason is the split piston rings on the main lift piston, they are made like that and the oil must leak down. The reason mine doesnt leak down is that I have fitted a Ford lift piston with an o ring that has a full seal. It is an easy thing to fit.
Thanks mate 👍🏻
Question for you. What is the best substitute, in your opinion, for the mineral oil called for in the OEM spec for the transmission, gearbox, hydraulics? I have an opportunity to get a bunch of shell industrial hydraulic fluid for a good price, but would it be better for me to go for tractor fluid, or even just automatic transmission fluid?
Hydraulic oil will be fine, just think about what is does in heavy industry. These little tractors will go well with it. a heavier one might help if things are worn a bit.
@@BundyBearsShed thank you very much, and thanks for the great content.
I have a Massey Ferguson 165 with Multi Power. The multi power operates fine but I can't get the 3 point to do anything. I have taken the top plate off and replaced the cylinder . How can I test the hydraulic pump and if it needs to be replaced does the tractor have to be split. Any comments or suggestions would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks
Get a book and test the pump pressure in the top cover and look for the stand pipe orings .
Hey my lift works slowly under load, without load it lifts fast, which may be the cause, thank you for your answer 😊
Could be just a weak hydraulic pump.
@@BundyBearsShed There is no strength when I connect the equipment to the upper hitch
Nice, thank you :)
Glad to help.
Gday Bundy Bear.. Bundy area too here..
What oil do i fill the hydraulics with? And where do i fill it up from as i can only see a dip stick hole..? And how much weight does it lift if using a pto basket or crane.? Your help/expertise would be very much appreciated. Thank you.
You fill using the gearbox filler but go slow as it has to run through the bearings and it can take a while. I use any modern tractor back end oil it will work fine, they take a bit over 22l From memory. I cant say how much they lift on a jib as they are all different but 500kg would be reasonable on a fork I would think.
@@BundyBearsShed thanks for your speedy reply, very much appreciated.. Now i filled the transmassion thru hole next to gear stick with 20lt of oil, theres a hole on the bottom 1inch back from where engine flange bolts to transmission section which the new oil is coming out from. Is there a screw missing? Is it overflow from overfilling? Then further back towards the next section just infront of the sump plug for trans/hydraulic oil, theres like what looks like two ends of a split pin coming out of a hole, theres also a slow drip from there.. This tractor doing my head in, hope you may know why both those 2 hole exist.?
have you ever come across a Ferguson which had the combined epicylic live pto kit? Did they work well?
No I cant say I have seen that.
Hi Lance, TEA20 - how far should PTO on/off lever travel to engage and what would cause it to sometimes disengage?
Movement should probably be the same for ground pto as engine pto. A twisted shaft can cause it to slide out.
Thank's Lance
We recently rebuilt our T020 Massey Ferguson. The issue we're having is that the hydraulic arms go up but doesn't go down. Is there a bleeding system?
Try and move the pump control valve by hand and see if it goes down. If so it needs adjusting.
I have a question my arms on my TED20 go up on my tractor but won’t go down. But when I put an implement on, the arms work fine. Would it be a case of the draft control being to tight or something else.
Possibly too loose but I would play with adjustment, I think you will be able to sort it out from there.
@@BundyBearsShed thanks for the help
Hi there I'm Steven I've seen your you tube video. I'm having trouble with the 3 point like on a massive Ferguson 65 it goes up but not down when you turn the tractor off it creeps down then when you start it up it goes straight back up
Pull the rh side off and look for the hydraulic pump control valve, it may have come loose on the pivot are or something along those lines.
My imt 539 deluxe. When I mash clutch, lift goes down. Also goes down when tractor is shut off. It's a 50 something year model. Any suggestions you have would be appreciated.
It sounds like you have a single clutch model, if so that is how they work Im afraid .
Thanks for the reply. Enjoy your videos.
Does the tractor have to b running for the hydraulic to go down
No just push the lever forward
Whay doing the hydrulick start too lift when i start the engine , and dont syncron of botth side to going down , when i stop the engine.
I think your pump control valve is either stick or broken.
@@BundyBearsShed
Im removed out the hydraulic pump and check the control valve, and find some stoff in there its nothing in the valve too do, cleaning the valve with brak cleaner and give the rest of the pump lite clean too, adust the control arms down to the control , ditt all gearsprocket ang the axle back , fill it up with oil , and the toppcover back , start it up, its, works for luft and down funktions
All thank too you fore all tip and trix..💪💪💪👍
La mulți ani, am și eu un ferguson tef 20,pornește greu din ce cuza? Mulțumesc frumos
Some just were as they got older.
Hi Lance, my hydraulic won't go down . What you think it can be? It also stutters but won't lift with an implement on
Always check the hydraulic pump control valve and check that the arms move freely with no implement on it.
@@BundyBearsShed thanks for responding, I'll check tomorrow
@@BundyBearsShed sorted thanks. BTW which hydraulic fluid do you you use on the fergie
@@pierremchughes9865 Just modern tractor back end oil like Hydratrans.
@@BundyBearsShed thanks Lance , have a good day
Will those adjustments work on a Ford tractor?
I believe so
Hello sir, I have TEA20 1953 when I want lift up and down it’s not working and when I put in PTO gear then lift works. So always I need put in pto gear if I want to up and down. Please let me know what’s wrong, thanks
That is how they work they don't have live hydraulics you do need the pto engaged to drive the hydraulic pump. Most tractors now a days have live hydraulics but back in the day these were made it hadnt been thought of yet.
@@BundyBearsShed thanks 🙏
I adjusted it went up nicely then went down and now want come back up.
Check the control valve hasnt stuck mine is still working great.
Not bad for a John Deere man. Does you dog bark at them too?
Yep barks at everything.
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IS THAT HOW THEY WORK MY ONE BEEN ROO TED FOR 40 YEARS you got plenty of cold piss i come up lol
Its easy to fix
LOL...my German Shepherds do that as well. Tractor, motorcycle, ATV, doesnt matter and then they try to herd me.
lol.