Life at Kel Tec is really good. Glad you like the PMR 30. I have worked there for three years now and I think it's time I got one for me. A few of our guys carry them for self defense. I really liked your review of this pistol. Awesome job!
@@gsxrman6319 have you made sure to load the magazine correctly? there’s a certain method to loading it. when you do it incorrectly the magazine will never feed a whole mag like you are saying
@@gsxrman6319 .... I fired 200 rounds thru one brand new out of the box.... not one single issue!!!.... lots of rapid fire too!..... functioned flawlessly!!!!..... Be well, do well & God bless y'all 🙏🏼🇺🇸
From a self defense standpoint, Lucky Gunner tested every 22 mag round they sell in ballistic gel, and the Hornady Critical Defense penetrated over 12" and expanded to .37 inch diameter, out of only a 2" barrel. You can expect a fair bit more inches of penetration from a longer barrel like in the KelTec here. Those are very respectful numbers of penetration and expansion, especially when you consider you have 30 rounds of it.
30 rounds of 22 wmr ballistic tip in a lightweight semiautomatic is intriguing. Definitely has potential. I'd want to play around with ammo and oil and learn it's likes and dislikes before carrying of course. I carry a p11 at a job that doesn't allow self defense so a sub compact concealable 9mm 11 round pistol the size of a derringer is incredibly desirable. Sao with recessed hammer and an incredibly heavy trigger that means you really have to want to shoot it to shoot it, trigger is the safety and it's good enough. Nobody is going to exert 20# over 2+" by accident. If you've ever shot a p11 you'll understand that there has absolutely never been a negligent discharge with that gun.
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22 magnum has the same energy/stopping power of a .38 special...nothing to jack with, especially with 30 rounds. bless you, hickok45, i love your videos.
I had to look that up, and you're right. A lot of them actually deliver more ft.-lbs of energy than a .38 special. I'd wager they even dump more energy than the .38. I like the .22 Magnum. My brother-in-law had revolver in that caliber and I was sorely tempted to offer to buy it from him. The .22 Magnum is like the 9mm or even the 30-30, in the sense that it's a vastly underestimated round.
@@vitalguillin5425well that also has a lot to do with how easily suppressed 22 lr is. Also the size limitations of what you can smuggle in makes the 22 pretty attractive.
Bought one recently. Accurate and fun to shoot. I carry it concealed every now and then. I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of 30 22. mag rounds!!
You can tell just what kind of a man Hickock is when something goes wrong, he says "what did I do wrong" in his analysis. That is the sign of a good person. Hickock 2016!!!
You make a very valid point I just came from another video and the firearm being used was the PMR 30 but it wasn't the proper weight of bullet. And I don't think he was really gripping it like he should have been. All the Glock fuck boys said Kel-Tec was garbage never buy that blah blah blah blah and I guarantee you not one of them has ever fired this particular model of firearm. Part of my language. When I am shooting and something goes wrong with the gun I stop and think okay what happened how did it happen how do I correct this? A lot of the times it's the brand or the weight of the ammo. One of my ex-girlfriends had a Remington 1100 semi-automatic shotgun you couldn't fire anything lighter then number six through it it was a jammatic all the time. But you know there's so many people that don't own the gun they never fired it but they seem to be professionals. The gentleman in this video he's the professional. I agree with you 110% with your comment you are spot on. 🙏🙏
+God of Thunder (UKKONEN) Sorry if I made a joke that was actually funny. As I used to tell my students, my jokes (lame humor) are really not supposed to be funny; they are supposed to just torment and make the listener's head hurt. :-)
Where did you find a name like Ukkonen? I am Finnish and have Niitunpaa, Reynanen, Liimatainen, Humperi, and Katavisto just to name a few! And besides that tiny factiod, there are only two kinds of people in the world......Finns and those who wish they were! Give 'em Helsinki!
digiphot2 my mothers family is Finnish, My grand parents were first generation Americans, My great grand parents came over from Finland in the 1890s to work in the copper mines in the Keweenaw peninsula in Michigans western upper peninsula. Ukkonen is from The Kalevala, The character Ukko, The God of Thunder who makes thunder when he is forging a sword (or axe depending on which version of the legend you subscribe to) When he strikes the steel with his hammer you have thunder. I make hand made knives as a hobby business so I chose Ukkonen as my brand
I've had my PMR-30 for about 3 month and put 900 rounds downrange. CCI MAXI MAGS both hp and Fmj, Winchester super-x 40gr, and the 33 gr accutips from Remington. All have shot excellent. So far this gun with the 4 mags I have run like a champ. I hope to get better videos soon with all kinds of reactive targets at various ranges. I'm stuck with my crappy iPhone videos for now. This gun is more than just a novelty and I would say has a broad range of uses.
I absolutely love my PMR-30!! My front sight fell off first time out with it though. Kel Tech repaired it quickly. Good customer service from them. Great video!!
Yea I had my firing pin break twice and a few more problems but they fixed it as I waited in the lobby. GREAT customer service. They also fixed my mag's and now it shoots great with only a few jams here in there. Fun gun to shoot.
Yeah I was going to say the same thing, though it was the second time for me. I contacted them and they sent me a new one right out. Four years 3k rounds it can still hit a can at 50y and dump the mag in two seconds. Loading it with 25 works better than 30 on mine.
I've owned my PMR-30 for about two years now. I do carry it, with an extra magazine. I practice extensively at bullet placement, due to the shell size. My thought on carrying this weapon is based on a simple concept. I am a novice at getting shot at! 1. I've never been in a gun fight, and all articles and videos on the subject point out that getting shot at changes your perspective. Most people only hit about 20% of the time. 2. Most simple robberies are done with a single hand gun. If I only hit 20% and they only have 15 shells, their's will go click before I run out. I also carry an extra magazine.
+Michall sounds good. But the thing about a fight is the adrenaline, and needing to move and get behind cover, and being real hesitant to even put your hand around the corner lest you be shot. So shot placement - you're not going to be able to aim at all unless you have one of those "moments of clarity" like soldiers have described where time moves real slow. Since you have 30 your best plan should probably be "Point, 5 rounds rapid". With less recoil your followup shots will be more accurate than theirs and even the inaccuracy of it will be to your aid much like a shotgun. Also the .22wmr does hit rather hard, about like a 5.56 at 200 yards. If you can Sting them with even one shot it may make them run for it.
closer to 556 at 450 or 500 yards. 22 mag out of pistol is different than 22 mag out of a 24 inch barrel. About 200 ft lbs is probably the max out of a 4-5 inch barrel
The bad guy isn't going to stick around while you are sniping at him. He went from offensive to defensive. Oh, you might trick him with the old, "Oh Sh-t, I'm out of ammo" after you shot 10 times and if he is stupid enough to break cover to finish you off then he is stupid enough to get ventilated with 10 of the 20 remaining rounds of 40 grain HP's, saving the last 10 for any of his buddies.
Did you buy yours online? Because I'm assuming this is pretty difficult to get at a regular gun range. Forgive me, I'm not well versed in the gun world. Just starting out and may purchase one soon.
I've been looking at this particular gun for a while for my wife and my young 14-year old son. No recoil and lots of ammo. They can become my back-up in case of a home invasion, or at least defend themselves in case I'm taken down.
I have really enjoyed mine for the past couple of years. Ammo has been going up for it and in shorter supply than when I purchased it. Still worth keeping in the collection for the Wow factor alone!
an old guy i did constructionwork for five-six years ago told me that "he only makes mistakes to prove that he is human." I think hickok follows the same principle :p
This is a perfect example of keen adaptivity and resourcefulness in showmanship. Hickok can explore and troubleshoot technical issues out of nowhere, without losing narrative coherence or composure. It took time, but he got progressively better with it over the years.
A lot of people discount the .22 Magnum just because it's a "22" but a .22 WMR can be a VERY effective if used properly. Hell, even a plain old .22lr can be effective in the same regard. An M4 is just a .22 caliber rifle, albeit a heavier bullet with more gunpowder, but at the end of the day it too is just a .22 caliber. I used to use .22 WMR rather extensively and found it to be a rather powerful, effective round, and it's far more capable than many realize... especially a *30-round* magazine of it :)
@@jasonbrown4771 The only situation where 5.7 makes any sense to ever use is in a full-auto compact smg with armor piercing capabilities. Considering 99.999% of civilians are never going to have access to such a weapon, the 5.7 is nothing more than a novelty for fanboys.
Love my PMR30.. took a few hundred rounds before it finally got reliable... I thought I was going to throw it away at first.. constant malfunctions... I am so glad I didn't.. it is one of my favorites now!!!! trigger always surprises me!!!
There are ALOT of guns put there that need sometimes thousands of rounds until they are reliable everytime, some 1911s with tighter tolerances are the king lmao, my Auto Ordnance took about 3000 before I stopped having any kind of malfunctions, it's just the mating of the parts
I think you’re the only one that mentioned what a hairpin trigger it has. It surprises me every time too. Mine has been a great gun and a ton of fun to shoot to.
Now that was a interesting video and I've always been a fan of the 22 Magnum I have only fired it from revolvers and my biggest problem with the 22 mag is it's just too expensive to plank with.
I have a PMR and my son and I have enjoyed shooting It. I highly recommend the Speer Gold Dot 40 grain in It. Perfect round for this pistol and they feed flawlessly.
I love my PMR 30. Keltec has an undeserved bad reputation but meanwhile I have fired hundreds of rounds with virtually no malfunctions. It's not a Browning or a Ruger but it's not meant to be. It is a fun shooter and Keltec is one of the most innovative manufacturer's out there.
Thanks for the honest review. Much appreciated. Even if it's not 100%, it's still a very cool concept. 30rnd flush magazine? I mean, c'mon, that's awesome. And the .22mag isn't the worst round out there. I wouldn't exactly trust it, but hey, it's better than nothing. And with the ammo relatively cheap, you can shoot it enough to actually find out just how reliable it is. Then you can decide from there if its worthy of being a carry/home defense pistol.
I just put the first 50 rounds through my PMR30 and so far (short time) it’s been great. Very accurate pistol and well constructed. Totally a conversation (odd ball) pistol but it’s sure a lot of fun. .22 Magnum is a very power round strangely enough.
I bought one in green 2 years ago. What sold me was the 30 round magazine. So far I have no complaints. It seems to shoot a lot better with the heavier grain bullets. I really enjoy your videos. I'm a Tennessee guy myself from Roan mountain in Carter county.
What a amazing gun! Ive owned rifles all my life, and now married with 2 kids. We are finally looking for a 1st Pistol. And this Kel-Tec is definitely the one. I mean, it is light weight! 30 rounds, and a 22magnum. This pistol has more velocity at 100 yards than a 22 Long rifle does at the muzzle. That is simply amazing, and nothing less! Only positive things can be said for this gun. And it looks fun to shoot! And a 22 Magnum, is simply powerful! Should be more than enough stop power for personal defense! And if not.. You got 30 rounds to go! Haha. Great gun! Great Video. You sold me on it! Now im going to go buy one! Thanks!
They make a part that goes on the magazine to keep it from dropping the magazine out accidentally. Very embarrassing on the range “ TAKE MY WORD FOR IT “..! Also could be very deadly for you in a firefight.. 2/ $25.00 but worth every cent
I just purchased mine, first time purchasing a fire arm, combat vet. I like what I see, driving to Prescott tomorrow to pick it up. Look forward to years of enjoyment.
I was very impressed at how rapidly you can fire off a round one right after the other. It might not hurt for them to redesign how you eject the magazine by putting the normal ejection button up top like you find in most semi-automatic pistols.
Damn i love this thing, 30 rounds in a standard sized handgun? This would be perfect for self defense. And people who think 22 mag isn't deadly as hell or even 22lr they are stupid!!
Kel-Tec is notorious for cheaply made sub-compact handguns but they also make very interesting & innovative guns when they want to. This PMR-30, the sub-2000 & KSG are all cleverly designed guns that I would love to own. The P-series handguns are another story all together.
Ten years after Mr.Hickok did this review,I am seeing it for the first time. I just want to thank KelTec for giving Mr.Hickok a fun day shooting. I have never seen him rapid fire an auto pistol like that and laugh so much when he finished doing it. Mr.Hickok is more the every shot counts kind of person. That was fun. Thanks Mr.Hickok and Keltec. Sadly, today 22 mag rounds cost almost as much as 9mm. But thirty rounds in a fun gun caliber that can kill coyotes,groundhog, and cans as well as give a bad guy a real bad day,that's a very desirable hand gun. I see that Keltec has worked on this gun and there is a specific aftermarket kit you can buy that comes with a mag loader too to further address any jam issues this gun may develop. Thirty rounds....nice. Nice to see Mr.Hickok smiling after running this gun through it's paces. Even ten years later.
Love your videos. Made me turn the corner on getting one of these.I have been reading about them for a long time. Finally got to hold one today and I liked everything about it. Thanks, your my go to source of info before making final decisions on a firearm purchase.
Hey I'm holding one now. I clean and care for all my brothers guns. And I'm really wanting this one. Be honest with me please. You can pm me even if You want but I would really like to know what You think after shooting it. Your personal opinion of this weapon is valuable to me. I live in the city with my brothers and can't fire off like I need to. Thanks
@@codyarnett3931 I bought mine at the beginning of the pandemic. One of the best triggers I’ve ever run in a gun. Terribly fun to shoot at the range. Everyone that I’ve let shoot this is immediately impressed by the trigger and the sights.
If you guys haven't already you should check out the tandemkross freedom rail for the PMR-30. Allows you to mount any micro red-dot and not just the ones KelTec locks you in with their plates. Also they make a kick butt thread cover too for the aftermarket threaded barrel...
Seriously one of the best triggers I've ever pulled. It's a little funky-looking but once it's in your hands and you really start to look at it it really grows on you and it's a must have. Super neat gun
What is an MCARBO modification? I own the PMR 30 also, and I absolutely love it. It’s a great gun, but if there’s a way to make it better, I’m all ears. Thanks
You've definitely got me interested in one of these now upon viewing this video. I had always regarded this pistol as cheap and rather clumsy-looking, but I can see now that it is indeed a unique and fine weapon. Thirty rounds of .22 Magnum isn't bad either...
I know this is a fairly old video, but I just spotted it. I hurt my neck a number of years ago, and can't take a lot of recoil anymore -- but I refuse to give up my self-defense capability. I carry a PMR-30 in a shoulder rig with a double mag pouch under the other arm. I know I'm trading kinetic energy out for kinetic energy felt, but with 30 rounds, I can afford to peck at someone if I have to in order to stop a threat. At least he may decide to run away rather than keep getting shot.
Lol, I know this comment is a year old, but do you really think somebody's MOST LIKELY going to keep moving of getting shot with a 22 magnum ? I mean I know it's not a 44 magnum or anything, but seriously ? I bet atleast half the time they wouldn't be moving after getting hit with it.
It's a crapshoot, really. The .22WMR is a hot round, but it doesn't mass a lot. Someone high on meth or angel dust might not feel it right away. Also, don't forget that bad guys aren't necessarily working solo. They might have friends, and you might NEED more than six or ten shots amongst a crowd of pissed off gangbangers or something.
Tanner Clark a shot to the head is not always a instant kill and hitting the brain stem in a gun fight is only in the movies. I work in the medical field and have seen people shot in the heart by .22 and not bleed out, it really depends on where you hit the heart. The .22 mag is good as a backup, but not a primary CCW. You want a round that hits hard and creates a large wound to stop a threat quickly.
The reason the clip releases the way it does , When a clip is empty you can hold it up straight, bump it with the base palm of your hand rather than pushing a release with your thumb, it drops out , then you quickly slap in another mag. !!! Love the videos !!
I love my PMR30, which I purchased at the beginning of 2023 and I have shot it once every week at my LGR here in Florida! I have had No Problems with this gun except when I tried 30 Grain ammo which will not cycle in this gun! The User Guide says to use only 40 grain or above and you should follow all tips and Instructions in the User Guide! I have been shooting mine for over 3 months without any failures of any kind! I also have 2 P17's and a CP33, which has those 33 round magazines! Great Fun to Shoot and I use my P17 as my EDC in my right front pocket!
when the gun first came out it had all kinds of problems based on other videos I have seen, but I think they changed out the barrel in the second gen models and they seem to be pretty reliable now.
PMR, CMR; had them for years. Only the normal KelTec problems that had to be worked out. They both run great now. Still a problem with just one mag and Ijust ljve with it. After first shot will not chamber second round. Just re-rack and it goes thru the last 29 no problem. I've got 12 magazines total with only the one finicky one.. Happy , happy! One little tip if you buy a KelTec; tighten all the screws first and then again after 600 / 700 rounds. I own six KelTec's and my latest is the P-17. Sure would like a Hickok45 review on this one!
I'dc what anyone says this is one of the best carry gun I've ever seen especially being 30 rounds with no extra hanging to get in the way of anything this is a big winner 22 magnum more power then the 22 lr even bigger plus kel tec I am a fan also the Kel tec sub 2000 is awesome
I'm definitely in the following of the 22 Magnum. I have a old Winchester lever gun my dad gave me, that I wouldn't sell for anything, not only because he gave it too me but I love to shoot it.
"I think, if I'm not mistaken, it's the only university that makes firearms".... Gold HH!!... pure gold!!....... .......Be well, do well & God bless y'all 🙏🏼🇺🇸
The Kel-Tec P11 with a 10 round magazine is one of my carry guns. When I got my second one I did so because it was very concealable and I missed the one I had in the past after selling it off. The new one is identical to the first and shoots to point of aim out to 25 yards. I have finally gotten used to the 9lb. trigger pull and it does not bother me any longer. It functions just fine and is an every day carry wepon.
Picked one up for $425. 400 rounds through and 1 malfunction. I believe this was because of how I loaded the mag. Accuracy is pretty good, Hickok shoots it way better than me. The gun is so light that it take a little getting used to. Real fun to shoot. I start getting looks at the range after the 20th round, its funny.
Would like to see the Rock Island XT22 done...that would also be sweet! I heard that the PMR-30 sometimes doesn't function well....maybe they got the bugs worked out??
The "first gen" with tapered or fluted barrels had issues, but the ones with standard barrels run like trains. If youre thinking of one make sure it has a non-fluted barrel and it will be great.
My first 350 rounds was crazy bad. Got to 400 rounds and all of a sudden the pistol ran flawless. I use CCI and Hornaday. This pistol will not run on Winchester. Disassemble with practice not to bad for me but, I can see this as a challenge for some.
I bought both PMR and a CMR Kel Tec! I like them both. They had FTF issues in the beginning but after a couple hundred "break-in" rounds they work great! Also, I am impressed with Kel-Tecs support/customer service!
Trap shota hentai- Tell that to the folks who got shot up at that death metal show in France. Multiple gunmen, not sure how many but at least 5 or 6 & possibly more. 90 rounds would give you the confidence to double or triple tap & not feel like you're wasting ammo. Don't think it couldn't happen here.
I am a Huge fan of the 22 WMR, my girlfriend also loves it due to the low recoil combined with the huge muzzle blast and flash compared to the 22lr, and over the course of 7 to 8 thousand rounds we have had zero failure to fires with the hornady critical defense in 22 wmr, even after carrying the same 6 rounds in her revolver for over a year they fired first try. And I love it for small game like rabbits 1400 fps out of a 6.5in barrel with a 45 grain bullet that mushrooms every time, can't hardly beat it for what it is.
Me too, I've got a Stainless Ruger Single Six 5.5" and the only thing I've shot from it is .22 WMR even though I have the .22lr cylinder. I like the Hornady CD also, it makes me wish I had never sold my NAA Black Widow...
I've always loved .22 WMR. It's an excellent cartridge and is far more versatile than many people think but I really don't know what the intended use for this pistol would be because it's priced WAY too high for what it is in my meaningless opinion but hey, that's me. If it weren't so damn pricey I think more people might consider it as maybe part of a "Go-Kit" because this particular cartridge is really quite effective for only being a .22 rimfire. Then again, the M4 is also just a .22 but with a heavier projectile and more gunpowder so I guess it's all in how you think about it . . .
John, Keep looking. They were priced real high by dealers, not the manufacturer. I picked mine up for $320 late last summer. I am seeing them more and more in stock at gun shops in the Virginia Beach area. Good luck.
I would love to own one of these. If we had the same laws in Britain I would definitely have this as a carry gun as a means of self defence. You can get many more round's on target.
Just got one of these. Mag springs are super stiff. Have to load 20 -25 for a while till you break it in. Just got back from shooting ran through 2 clips and it was awesome. Got 1/2 way through the 3rd clip and the barrel exploded! Barrel looks like a banana peel sorta. Two large chunks of plastic shot off each side of barrel. The piece that came off the right side we found but after an hour of looking for the 2nd piece, we gave up. We were shooting good CCI rounds and it was fresh ammo. I plan on calling Kel Tec first thing Monday to see what they plan on doing about this. I will need to take the gun to a Gunsmith however because it will not rack back because the busted barrel has it jammed and the safety will not go on ether. So it has a live round stuck in there with no safety on. Can't ship it out that way. If I'm lucky, Kal Tec will replace it but I seriously question weather I want to shoot another one again.
+General Caeser its almost 100% assured you had some sort of obstruction. probably a round didnt clear the barrel. im not a fan of keltek.... but that isnt the guns fault. isnt your fault either.... dont get me wrong. unless your constantly looking for a hang fire/weak round... your not going to notice it, especially when "rapid shooting".
Funny thing, I wasn't rapid firing. I had fired 2 clips then reloaded for my 13 year old son. He fired 12 to 15 rounds, had a jam and handed it to me. I cleared the jam (round ejected) and handed it back to him. It was then that the gun barrel exploded. I am thinking obstruction as well. I finally carefully extracted the round (and it wasn't easy) to find that the round was an empty shell casing. So, you are right probably was a round in front of that one. But not 100% sure. Kel Tec wants me to send the gun into them. I plan on sending it off tomorrow.
Yes. Had a hard time getting Kel Tec to do much. I took the gun to a Gunsmith and they said they would send it off to Kel Tec for a $45 fee plus shipping. I figure if I get the gun fixed this might be okay.
+General Caeser sounds like a squib load, when the projectile doesn't complete leave the barrel. hopefully everything gets taken care of. one of my buddies just picked one up yesterday.
Hello I'm sorry to bother You. But I really need as much feedback as I can get. How do You like the PMR? Long story short I got one arm and need something I can depend on. You can pm me if You like that better. Thanks
@@codyarnett3931 I just replied to your other comment, but if you only have one arm you can do much worse than the pmr 30. The recoil is very light and manageable. The only issue you would have with just one arm is the size of the grip. It’s very long since it has to hold 22 Mag. It isn’t the most comfortable to hold and shoot single handed. The magazine is also very difficult to load initially, the spring is very tight in it.
I bought a pmr 30 a few years ago. Had feeding problems. So I polished the feeding tube. Tha magazine had some flash where ammo feeds so polished it too. Iightly oiled metal slide action. Works great now. Lots of fun.
I like .22 magnum, however I like the .17 HMR better. I have a nice Savage in .17 HMR that is the best rifle I have ever owned. I will never get rid of it.
Keltec has a lifetime warranty. You are going to need it. I've had it for 1 1/2 years and I've sent it back 4 times. FTE FTF and 2 case ruptures. CCI 40gr Maxi Mags, Maglula load assist tapping the back cleaning every 50-100 rounds. The gun stores and range doesnt stock them because the buyer returns with problems. If it's a $200 firearm you get what you pay for but at $450.00 price point Keltec Pmr30 is a piece of JUNK. Thank you for your time.
.22 and .22WMR is about as dirty as it gets and rimfire in general can be iffy. More frequent cleanings are a must. I have far more ammo issues with all of my rimfire firearms than I do with the firearms themselves.
Mine kept on jamming while I was at the range. The Smith said the magazines were defective. Calling the factory today to see if they will make good on these as these came with my purchase.
Life at Kel Tec is really good. Glad you like the PMR 30. I have worked there for three years now and I think it's time I got one for me. A few of our guys carry them for self defense. I really liked your review of this pistol. Awesome job!
@@gsxrman6319 have you made sure to load the magazine correctly? there’s a certain method to loading it. when you do it incorrectly the magazine will never feed a whole mag like you are saying
@@gsxrman6319 .... I fired 200 rounds thru one brand new out of the box.... not one single issue!!!.... lots of rapid fire too!..... functioned flawlessly!!!!..... Be well, do well & God bless y'all 🙏🏼🇺🇸
@@gsxrman6319 i have one bud and it works flawlessly if you load the mags correctly.
Not loading a magazine properly is not the guns fault lol
@@gsxrman6319 Hey bud, do you work for kel-tec?
"from kel-tec ... If I'm not mistaken that's the only university that makes firearms"
haha, good one! I'm surprised more people didn't comment on that
It's because we didn't know if it was a university that created it. I speak for myself obviously and I'm generalizing otherwise.
@@dudeseriously79 it was a joke.
@@sinnohen Yeah, it's a great gun too. I bought one.
Remington makes guns too
Kel Poly Tech
From a self defense standpoint, Lucky Gunner tested every 22 mag round they sell in ballistic gel, and the Hornady Critical Defense penetrated over 12" and expanded to .37 inch diameter, out of only a 2" barrel. You can expect a fair bit more inches of penetration from a longer barrel like in the KelTec here. Those are very respectful numbers of penetration and expansion, especially when you consider you have 30 rounds of it.
Ans different rifling
I think you should run Winchester super X in it. That will make it a completely different gun
Ya I sures heck wouldn't wanna get hit by 10 20 or 30 rounds a that wmr 😅
Jimmy, is that the 1910 velocity? Hollow points, or full bullet?
30 rounds of 22 wmr ballistic tip in a lightweight semiautomatic is intriguing. Definitely has potential. I'd want to play around with ammo and oil and learn it's likes and dislikes before carrying of course. I carry a p11 at a job that doesn't allow self defense so a sub compact concealable 9mm 11 round pistol the size of a derringer is incredibly desirable. Sao with recessed hammer and an incredibly heavy trigger that means you really have to want to shoot it to shoot it, trigger is the safety and it's good enough. Nobody is going to exert 20# over 2+" by accident. If you've ever shot a p11 you'll understand that there has absolutely never been a negligent discharge with that gun.
22 magnum has the same energy/stopping power of a .38 special...nothing to jack with, especially with 30 rounds. bless you, hickok45, i love your videos.
I had to look that up, and you're right. A lot of them actually deliver more ft.-lbs of energy than a .38 special. I'd wager they even dump more energy than the .38.
I like the .22 Magnum. My brother-in-law had revolver in that caliber and I was sorely tempted to offer to buy it from him. The .22 Magnum is like the 9mm or even the 30-30, in the sense that it's a vastly underestimated round.
Does it come with threaded barrel for noise suppressor ?
How much are they?
@@vicgogan3337 they do now I got a friend that has one
Mossad killer agents are using 22 LR very often, to "eliminate" human targets....So it must be effective...
@@vitalguillin5425well that also has a lot to do with how easily suppressed 22 lr is. Also the size limitations of what you can smuggle in makes the 22 pretty attractive.
Bought one recently. Accurate and fun to shoot. I carry it concealed every now and then. I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of 30 22. mag rounds!!
You can tell just what kind of a man Hickock is when something goes wrong, he says "what did I do wrong" in his analysis. That is the sign of a good person. Hickock 2016!!!
You make a very valid point I just came from another video and the firearm being used was the PMR 30 but it wasn't the proper weight of bullet. And I don't think he was really gripping it like he should have been. All the Glock fuck boys said Kel-Tec was garbage never buy that blah blah blah blah and I guarantee you not one of them has ever fired this particular model of firearm. Part of my language. When I am shooting and something goes wrong with the gun I stop and think okay what happened how did it happen how do I correct this? A lot of the times it's the brand or the weight of the ammo. One of my ex-girlfriends had a Remington 1100 semi-automatic shotgun you couldn't fire anything lighter then number six through it it was a jammatic all the time.
But you know there's so many people that don't own the gun they never fired it but they seem to be professionals.
The gentleman in this video he's the professional. I agree with you 110% with your comment you are spot on. 🙏🙏
ok normally I groan at your jokes, but the Kel Tech college joke was pretty good
+God of Thunder (UKKONEN) Sorry if I made a joke that was actually funny. As I used to tell my students, my jokes (lame humor) are really not supposed to be funny; they are supposed to just torment and make the listener's head hurt. :-)
+God of Thunder (UKKONEN) Yeah, I chuckled at that one too!
Hickok , your shooting skills are no joke
Where did you find a name like Ukkonen? I am Finnish and have Niitunpaa, Reynanen, Liimatainen, Humperi, and Katavisto just to name a few! And besides that tiny factiod, there are only two kinds of people in the world......Finns and those who wish they were! Give 'em Helsinki!
digiphot2 my mothers family is Finnish, My grand parents were first generation Americans, My great grand parents came over from Finland in the 1890s to work in the copper mines in the Keweenaw peninsula in Michigans western upper peninsula. Ukkonen is from The Kalevala, The character Ukko, The God of Thunder who makes thunder when he is forging a sword (or axe depending on which version of the legend you subscribe to) When he strikes the steel with his hammer you have thunder. I make hand made knives as a hobby business so I chose Ukkonen as my brand
I've had my PMR-30 for about 3 month and put 900 rounds downrange. CCI MAXI MAGS both hp and Fmj, Winchester super-x 40gr, and the 33 gr accutips from Remington. All have shot excellent. So far this gun with the 4 mags I have run like a champ. I hope to get better videos soon with all kinds of reactive targets at various ranges. I'm stuck with my crappy iPhone videos for now. This gun is more than just a novelty and I would say has a broad range of uses.
I absolutely love my PMR-30!! My front sight fell off first time out with it though. Kel Tech repaired it quickly. Good customer service from them. Great video!!
Had the same problem with the front sight 😳 fixed it myself 🤗
Yea I had my firing pin break twice and a few more problems but they fixed it as I waited in the lobby. GREAT customer service. They also fixed my mag's and now it shoots great with only a few jams here in there. Fun gun to shoot.
Yeah I was going to say the same thing, though it was the second time for me. I contacted them and they sent me a new one right out. Four years 3k rounds it can still hit a can at 50y and dump the mag in two seconds. Loading it with 25 works better than 30 on mine.
man, you can start shooting on sunday and reload on thursday
then it will be sunday again by the time you reload ;)
@@chrisweskamp9466 right😂😂😂 unless you buy a speed loader
I love this gun. I have one.. that’s the main reason I got it.
I've owned my PMR-30 for about two years now. I do carry it, with an extra magazine. I practice extensively at bullet placement, due to the shell size. My thought on carrying this weapon is based on a simple concept. I am a novice at getting shot at!
1. I've never been in a gun fight, and all articles and videos on the subject point out that getting shot at changes your perspective. Most people only hit about 20% of the time.
2. Most simple robberies are done with a single hand gun. If I only hit 20% and they only have 15 shells, their's will go click before I run out. I also carry an extra magazine.
+Michall sounds good. But the thing about a fight is the adrenaline, and needing to move and get behind cover, and being real hesitant to even put your hand around the corner lest you be shot. So shot placement - you're not going to be able to aim at all unless you have one of those "moments of clarity" like soldiers have described where time moves real slow. Since you have 30 your best plan should probably be "Point, 5 rounds rapid". With less recoil your followup shots will be more accurate than theirs and even the inaccuracy of it will be to your aid much like a shotgun. Also the .22wmr does hit rather hard, about like a 5.56 at 200 yards. If you can Sting them with even one shot it may make them run for it.
closer to 556 at 450 or 500 yards. 22 mag out of pistol is different than 22 mag out of a 24 inch barrel. About 200 ft lbs is probably the max out of a 4-5 inch barrel
The bad guy isn't going to stick around while you are sniping at him. He went from offensive to defensive. Oh, you might trick him with the old, "Oh Sh-t, I'm out of ammo" after you shot 10 times and if he is stupid enough to break cover to finish you off then he is stupid enough to get ventilated with 10 of the 20 remaining rounds of 40 grain HP's, saving the last 10 for any of his buddies.
Lame
Did you buy yours online? Because I'm assuming this is pretty difficult to get at a regular gun range. Forgive me, I'm not well versed in the gun world. Just starting out and may purchase one soon.
I've been looking at this particular gun for a while for my wife and my young 14-year old son. No recoil and lots of ammo. They can become my back-up in case of a home invasion, or at least defend themselves in case I'm taken down.
Wow! You can actually have a gunfight like in the movies with that gun. One of those where they shoot and shoot and never have to reload.
I have really enjoyed mine for the past couple of years. Ammo has been going up for it and in shorter supply than when I purchased it. Still worth keeping in the collection for the Wow factor alone!
yousef ahmed
Of course.. the 22 magnum actually has a great ballistic characteristic. It’s comparable to the FN fiveseven.
@Ali Al-saadie it's all about the power behind it
i've never seen Hichkok miss 4 in a row before......so he is human.
+tonewall jaxon thats exactly what i was thinking.
an old guy i did constructionwork for five-six years ago told me that "he only makes mistakes to prove that he is human." I think hickok follows the same principle :p
It's gotta be the gun. Yep, it's a kel tec.
Nah guns just not really a gun at all
Yep. Hickok missing a target four times in a row is a pretty good indicator that the gun is garbage.
This is a perfect example of keen adaptivity and resourcefulness in showmanship. Hickok can explore and troubleshoot technical issues out of nowhere, without losing narrative coherence or composure. It took time, but he got progressively better with it over the years.
A lot of people discount the .22 Magnum just because it's a "22" but a .22 WMR can be a VERY effective if used properly. Hell, even a plain old .22lr can be effective in the same regard. An M4 is just a .22 caliber rifle, albeit a heavier bullet with more gunpowder, but at the end of the day it too is just a .22 caliber. I used to use .22 WMR rather extensively and found it to be a rather powerful, effective round, and it's far more capable than many realize... especially a *30-round* magazine of it :)
foskten10
5.7x28mm would make an excellent revolver round,imho
You can’t conceal it, but you can get a 30-30 in a revolver as well. That’s a monster of a cartridge in a handgun.
@@davidporowski9512 with fast burning powders , 22 mag is very similar to 5.7 output...for way le$$ 'Regular' powders no so much
Except center fire is more reliable.
@@iDrive4fun93 .45-70 Revolver...
Finally got to shoot one and man, it was fun! It’s loud. It’s blasty. It makes fire balls. It’s easy to shoot accurately and it works every time
It’s kinda like a Five-seveN, but with cheap, plentiful ammo
@@McBeakerson My local Walmart has a good amount of it, since it’s such an unpopular round
So it’s there, and like $10 a box lol
I say it’s better than an FN57... Better range...
The 5.7X28 is FAR SUPERIOR to .22mag. And in regards to quality and reliability, Keltec is nowhere even close to FN.
@@jasonbrown4771 watch the video of a .22 vs 5.7 ballistics test it really isn’t that much better than a .22
@@jasonbrown4771 The only situation where 5.7 makes any sense to ever use is in a full-auto compact smg with armor piercing capabilities. Considering 99.999% of civilians are never going to have access to such a weapon, the 5.7 is nothing more than a novelty for fanboys.
As a dry humor practitioner myself, I particularly appreciate Hickock's gems like " the only university that makes firearms".
Love my PMR30.. took a few hundred rounds before it finally got reliable... I thought I was going to throw it away at first.. constant malfunctions... I am so glad I didn't.. it is one of my favorites now!!!! trigger always surprises me!!!
There are ALOT of guns put there that need sometimes thousands of rounds until they are reliable everytime, some 1911s with tighter tolerances are the king lmao, my Auto Ordnance took about 3000 before I stopped having any kind of malfunctions, it's just the mating of the parts
I think you’re the only one that mentioned what a hairpin trigger it has. It surprises me every time too. Mine has been a great gun and a ton of fun to shoot to.
I got a P17 now I just ordered the PMR30 today and a P15 I can’t wait to shoot them cause I love my P17 it’s so fun
Now that was a interesting video and I've always been a fan of the 22 Magnum I have only fired it from revolvers and my biggest problem with the 22 mag is it's just too expensive to plank with.
I have a PMR and my son and I have enjoyed shooting It. I highly recommend the Speer Gold Dot 40 grain in It. Perfect round for this pistol and they feed flawlessly.
Own the pmr 30 myself.gun works great. once you get the loading of the mag down.and very easy to get great follow up shots with.
I love my PMR 30. Keltec has an undeserved bad reputation but meanwhile I have fired hundreds of rounds with virtually no malfunctions. It's not a Browning or a Ruger but it's not meant to be. It is a fun shooter and Keltec is one of the most innovative manufacturer's out there.
My P3AT kicks Ruger LCP ass. PLR16 is flawless. PMR30 needed an updated firing pin, that is all
Thanks for the honest review. Much appreciated. Even if it's not 100%, it's still a very cool concept. 30rnd flush magazine? I mean, c'mon, that's awesome. And the .22mag isn't the worst round out there. I wouldn't exactly trust it, but hey, it's better than nothing. And with the ammo relatively cheap, you can shoot it enough to actually find out just how reliable it is. Then you can decide from there if its worthy of being a carry/home defense pistol.
I for one , wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of one. Take a closer look at that round , it might surprise you.
@@guzziguy1000 especially not 30 of them 😂
I just put the first 50 rounds through my PMR30 and so far (short time) it’s been great. Very accurate pistol and well constructed. Totally a conversation (odd ball) pistol but it’s sure a lot of fun. .22 Magnum is a very power round strangely enough.
the coolest thing about Tennessee is the fact that Hickok45 lives there. Keep up the good work Friend, you are the best!!!!
Moved here from Commieformya love TN it’s how the way the whole country should be
I bought one in green 2 years ago. What sold me was the 30 round magazine. So far I have no complaints. It seems to shoot a lot better with the heavier grain bullets. I really enjoy your videos. I'm a Tennessee guy myself from Roan mountain in Carter county.
When I want to remember how much fun it is to shoot, I come over to Hickok45. That laugh brings me joy nearly as if I were there doing it myself.
What a amazing gun! Ive owned rifles all my life, and now married with 2 kids. We are finally looking for a 1st Pistol. And this Kel-Tec is definitely the one. I mean, it is light weight! 30 rounds, and a 22magnum. This pistol has more velocity at 100 yards than a 22 Long rifle does at the muzzle. That is simply amazing, and nothing less! Only positive things can be said for this gun. And it looks fun to shoot! And a 22 Magnum, is simply powerful! Should be more than enough stop power for personal defense! And if not.. You got 30 rounds to go! Haha. Great gun! Great Video. You sold me on it! Now im going to go buy one! Thanks!
They make a part that goes on the magazine to keep it from dropping the magazine out accidentally. Very embarrassing on the range “ TAKE MY WORD FOR IT “..! Also could be very deadly for you in a firefight.. 2/ $25.00 but worth every cent
LOVE IT BY THE WAY…!
I know what your thinking.... Did he fire 30 shots or only 29?
TubeYou Are you feeling lucky?
ytubepuppy exactly... when you have 30 rounds in a handgun,, your oponent will run out of luck long before you run out of bullets hehe =)
TubeYou Do ya feel lucky?!!!! PUNK?!
TubeYou ...But seeing as this is the .22 Magnum, the most powerful rim fire in the free world... able to take a squirrel,s head clean off....
Eric Ferguson Shooting a squirrel in the head is a waste of good meat...brains, tongue, cheeks. Shoot them in the ribs, not much there.
The whole 30 ran flawless I'm amazed at the clean hits on the back gong makes me feel confident about my PMR 30 💯
I just purchased mine, first time purchasing a fire arm, combat vet. I like what I see, driving to Prescott tomorrow to pick it up. Look forward to years of enjoyment.
Man, I was just waiting for you to rock that rapid fire. Awesome.
Oh, how I'd love to have this back yard....
I was very impressed at how rapidly you can fire off a round one right after the other. It might not hurt for them to redesign how you eject the magazine by putting the normal ejection button up top like you find in most semi-automatic pistols.
you'd never get to reload in any defense situation ever..not even remotely going to happen.
@@Cornwalas2yeah but
Im afraid that if you’re in such a high tense situation, you may squeeze the grip too hard popping the mag out.
Damn i love this thing, 30 rounds in a standard sized handgun? This would be perfect for self defense. And people who think 22 mag isn't deadly as hell or even 22lr they are stupid!!
If bullets start flying my way....im not thinking. .."pffft....just 22" 😂
Yeah I never understood dissing 22lr. If it can kill deer it can kill me.
Nice gun have about five clips ain't nobody messing with you lol
Agreed, this gun is formidable
@@angelcorella6883 Clips go in hair, magazines go in firearms👊🏼
Kel-Tec is notorious for cheaply made sub-compact handguns but they also make very interesting & innovative guns when they want to. This PMR-30, the sub-2000 & KSG are all cleverly designed guns that I would love to own. The P-series handguns are another story all together.
My son bought the Sub-2000 and we think it is super cool. Great little book bag rife... or for hiking;)
Ten years after Mr.Hickok did this review,I am seeing it for the first time.
I just want to thank KelTec for giving Mr.Hickok a fun day shooting.
I have never seen him rapid fire an auto pistol like that and laugh so much when he finished doing it.
Mr.Hickok is more the every shot counts kind of person.
That was fun.
Thanks Mr.Hickok and Keltec.
Sadly, today 22 mag rounds cost almost as much as 9mm.
But thirty rounds in a fun gun caliber that can kill coyotes,groundhog, and cans as well as give a bad guy a real bad day,that's a very desirable hand gun.
I see that Keltec has worked on this gun and there is a specific aftermarket kit you can buy that comes with a mag loader too to further address any jam issues this gun may develop.
Thirty rounds....nice.
Nice to see Mr.Hickok smiling after running this gun through it's paces.
Even ten years later.
I totally agree with you. There is a reason why most of the assassins use 22. No mess to clean afterwards, and a lot quieter.
Yes, been using it for years.
22long rifle.
Not a loud ass 22mag.
Love your videos. Made me turn the corner on getting one of these.I have been reading about them for a long time. Finally got to hold one today and I liked everything about it. Thanks, your my go to source of info before making final decisions on a firearm purchase.
I just picked one up after a 2-year wait on a list. Can't wait to get to the range, feels great in the hand and Hickok likes it!
Hey I'm holding one now. I clean and care for all my brothers guns. And I'm really wanting this one. Be honest with me please. You can pm me even if You want but I would really like to know what You think after shooting it. Your personal opinion of this weapon is valuable to me. I live in the city with my brothers and can't fire off like I need to. Thanks
@@codyarnett3931 I bought mine at the beginning of the pandemic. One of the best triggers I’ve ever run in a gun. Terribly fun to shoot at the range. Everyone that I’ve let shoot this is immediately impressed by the trigger and the sights.
Just got to try one today, and man, I am sold. What a fantastic pistol!
That thing just keeps on going.... like a Beretta in an action film (grin)
LOL that is a great explanation of it.
Hahah! Nice one.
Grow and Conquer
I wish I can have that gun it looks so much fun
@@japhethwebster4923 me too
Older neighbor just told me about this lol he was so excited...said it’s the next piece to his collection
right? The fact that their magnums makes up for any anti 22 nonsense. I would imagine 30 of those things would win most firefights.
If you guys haven't already you should check out the tandemkross freedom rail for the PMR-30. Allows you to mount any micro red-dot and not just the ones KelTec locks you in with their plates. Also they make a kick butt thread cover too for the aftermarket threaded barrel...
I love all keltec stuff
Seriously one of the best triggers I've ever pulled. It's a little funky-looking but once it's in your hands and you really start to look at it it really grows on you and it's a must have. Super neat gun
It deserves a modern review, especially with MCARBO modifications, it runs so damn good, best gun in the world!
I just got this gun and doing the MCARBO kit asap
What is an MCARBO modification? I own the PMR 30 also, and I absolutely love it. It’s a great gun, but if there’s a way to make it better, I’m all ears. Thanks
You've definitely got me interested in one of these now upon viewing this video. I had always regarded this pistol as cheap and rather clumsy-looking, but I can see now that it is indeed a unique and fine weapon. Thirty rounds of .22 Magnum isn't bad either...
Hickok's jokes kill me the college that makes guns had me dying. Do you Hickok, you're awesome.
you're range is awesome. .looks like so much fun
Also good way to keep people off your land😂
Perfect Zombie Sidearm! While the .22 mag is not as common as it's little brothers, the 30 rounder mag is a massive advantage over other 22 pistols.
"Now I know what you're thinking, did he fire 24, or 28? Wait, how many rounds does that thing carry?"
30+1. fire away ! baby
"I gotsta know"
30+1
30 plus one...
Hey wait a second that’s the same capacity as a 5.7 extended.
Rampage Gamer ll
I know this is a fairly old video, but I just spotted it.
I hurt my neck a number of years ago, and can't take a lot of recoil anymore -- but I refuse to give up my self-defense capability. I carry a PMR-30 in a shoulder rig with a double mag pouch under the other arm. I know I'm trading kinetic energy out for kinetic energy felt, but with 30 rounds, I can afford to peck at someone if I have to in order to stop a threat. At least he may decide to run away rather than keep getting shot.
Lol, I know this comment is a year old, but do you really think somebody's MOST LIKELY going to keep moving of getting shot with a 22 magnum ? I mean I know it's not a 44 magnum or anything, but seriously ? I bet atleast half the time they wouldn't be moving after getting hit with it.
It's a crapshoot, really. The .22WMR is a hot round, but it doesn't mass a lot. Someone high on meth or angel dust might not feel it right away. Also, don't forget that bad guys aren't necessarily working solo. They might have friends, and you might NEED more than six or ten shots amongst a crowd of pissed off gangbangers or something.
Tanner Clark stolen Hi Point 😂😂😂
Tanner Clark a shot to the head is not always a instant kill and hitting the brain stem in a gun fight is only in the movies. I work in the medical field and have seen people shot in the heart by .22 and not bleed out, it really depends on where you hit the heart. The .22 mag is good as a backup, but not a primary CCW. You want a round that hits hard and creates a large wound to stop a threat quickly.
@@mopar_dude9227 Hollow points and rat poison they will bleed out.
Love this pistol! You're still firing while they're reloading
The reason the clip releases the way it does , When a clip is empty you can hold it up straight, bump it with the base palm of your hand rather than pushing a release with your thumb, it drops out , then you
quickly slap in another mag. !!! Love the videos !!
I love when he's walking around his range and you can hear the 1000s of spent brass casings
Keltecs are cool, but dang I hate all of those exposed screws all over them ugh
Easier to open up and gives it a rugged feel ... I actually like it this way
@Ronald Scott replied to a seven year old comment, nice.
@Ronald Scott they are screws. I have one.
This was so long ago and feels like yesterday. 2012 I remember so much from those days
You're going to be famous someday, old man.
W I S H G R A N T E D
Lol
He is now!
he is now
Good stuff, look forward to arrive in our department next year. Thanks for sharing mate, I always enjoyed your shows.
I love my PMR30, which I purchased at the beginning of 2023 and I have shot it once every week at my LGR here in Florida! I have had No Problems with this gun except when I tried 30 Grain ammo which will not cycle in this gun! The User Guide says to use only 40 grain or above and you should follow all tips and Instructions in the User Guide! I have been shooting mine for over 3 months without any failures of any kind! I also have 2 P17's and a CP33, which has those 33 round magazines! Great Fun to Shoot and I use my P17 as my EDC in my right front pocket!
Beautiful piece, definitely something that looks fun to shoot.
That would be an amazing duel wield weapon
when the gun first came out it had all kinds of problems based on other videos I have seen, but I think they changed out the barrel in the second gen models and they seem to be pretty reliable now.
That’s good I just ordered one today I can’t wait 😊
PMR, CMR; had them for years. Only the normal KelTec problems that had to be worked out. They both run great now. Still a problem with just one mag and Ijust ljve with it. After first shot will not chamber second round. Just re-rack and it goes thru the last 29 no problem. I've got 12 magazines total with only the one finicky one.. Happy , happy!
One little tip if you buy a KelTec; tighten all the screws first and then again after 600 / 700 rounds.
I own six KelTec's and my latest is the P-17. Sure would like a Hickok45 review on this one!
I'dc what anyone says this is one of the best carry gun I've ever seen especially being 30 rounds with no extra hanging to get in the way of anything this is a big winner 22 magnum more power then the 22 lr even bigger plus kel tec I am a fan also the Kel tec sub 2000 is awesome
I'm definitely in the following of the 22 Magnum. I have a old Winchester lever gun my dad gave me, that I wouldn't sell for anything, not only because he gave it too me but I love to shoot it.
"Keltec produces a bunch of unique firearms"
I think unique is a very generous word to describe what keltec makes.
Wow those .22 magnums reach the gong pretty fast. I've always wanted a gun in .22 WMR.
1900fps
"I think, if I'm not mistaken, it's the only university that makes firearms".... Gold HH!!... pure gold!!....... .......Be well, do well & God bless y'all 🙏🏼🇺🇸
The Kel-Tec P11 with a 10 round magazine is one of my carry guns. When I got my second one I did so because it was very concealable and I missed the one I had in the past after selling it off. The new one is identical to the first and shoots to point of aim out to 25 yards. I have finally gotten used to the 9lb. trigger pull and it does not bother me any longer. It functions just fine and is an every day carry wepon.
I picked one up today and its so much lighter than I thought, even lighter than an M&P 22 handgun.
Any 22 is fun to shoot.
Your jokes never sound like jokes lol
By ch I vtired
So your saying he's not funny. Lol.
@@scottmontgomery4537 he has a dry sense of humor. No laughtrack for the slow people
Picked one up for $425. 400 rounds through and 1 malfunction. I believe this was because of how I loaded the mag. Accuracy is pretty good, Hickok shoots it way better than me. The gun is so light that it take a little getting used to. Real fun to shoot. I start getting looks at the range after the 20th round, its funny.
You have the best target range I’ve ever seen
Would like to see the Rock Island XT22 done...that would also be sweet! I heard that the PMR-30 sometimes doesn't function well....maybe they got the bugs worked out??
The "first gen" with tapered or fluted barrels had issues, but the ones with standard barrels run like trains. If youre thinking of one make sure it has a non-fluted barrel and it will be great.
My first 350 rounds was crazy bad. Got to 400 rounds and all of a sudden the pistol ran flawless. I use CCI and Hornaday. This pistol will not run on Winchester. Disassemble with practice not to bad for me but, I can see this as a challenge for some.
Welcome to the driest humor on youtube. I love it.
I bought both PMR and a CMR Kel Tec! I like them both. They had FTF issues in the beginning but after a couple hundred "break-in" rounds they work great! Also, I am impressed with Kel-Tecs support/customer service!
Very knowledgeable I dont a gun till i see the review on this channel, good job
The perfect conceal carry piece with two extra clips thats 90 almost 100 rounds right there of 22 Magnum and it weighs next to nothing.
Why? Unless you're going to shoot up people, there's no need to carry nearly 100 rounds of ammunition with you.
+really generic weeb name because he can.
+really generic weeb name do you even shoot?!
Mike Semore not often, but i certainly do shoot
Trap shota hentai- Tell that to the folks who got shot up at that death metal show in France. Multiple gunmen, not sure how many but at least 5 or 6 & possibly more. 90 rounds would give you the confidence to double or triple tap & not feel like you're wasting ammo. Don't think it couldn't happen here.
I am a Huge fan of the 22 WMR, my girlfriend also loves it due to the low recoil combined with the huge muzzle blast and flash compared to the 22lr, and over the course of 7 to 8 thousand rounds we have had zero failure to fires with the hornady critical defense in 22 wmr, even after carrying the same 6 rounds in her revolver for over a year they fired first try. And I love it for small game like rabbits 1400 fps out of a 6.5in barrel with a 45 grain bullet that mushrooms every time, can't hardly beat it for what it is.
Me too, I've got a Stainless Ruger Single Six 5.5" and the only thing I've shot from it is .22 WMR even though I have the .22lr cylinder. I like the Hornady CD also, it makes me wish I had never sold my NAA Black Widow...
***** I have been debating buying a black widow they look really cool and very concealable compared to the single six.
I've always loved .22 WMR. It's an excellent cartridge and is far more versatile than many people think but I really don't know what the intended use for this pistol would be because it's priced WAY too high for what it is in my meaningless opinion but hey, that's me.
If it weren't so damn pricey I think more people might consider it as maybe part of a "Go-Kit" because this particular cartridge is really quite effective for only being a .22 rimfire. Then again, the M4 is also just a .22 but with a heavier projectile and more gunpowder so I guess it's all in how you think about it . . .
John, Keep looking. They were priced real high by dealers, not the manufacturer. I picked mine up for $320 late last summer. I am seeing them more and more in stock at gun shops in the Virginia Beach area. Good luck.
just went and looked at this gun today definitely in my future purchase!!
I would love to own one of these. If we had the same laws in Britain I would definitely have this as a carry gun as a means of self defence. You can get many more round's on target.
Just got one of these. Mag springs are super stiff. Have to load 20 -25 for a while till you break it in. Just got back from shooting ran through 2 clips and it was awesome. Got 1/2 way through the 3rd clip and the barrel exploded! Barrel looks like a banana peel sorta. Two large chunks of plastic shot off each side of barrel. The piece that came off the right side we found but after an hour of looking for the 2nd piece, we gave up. We were shooting good CCI rounds and it was fresh ammo. I plan on calling Kel Tec first thing Monday to see what they plan on doing about this. I will need to take the gun to a Gunsmith however because it will not rack back because the busted barrel has it jammed and the safety will not go on ether. So it has a live round stuck in there with no safety on. Can't ship it out that way. If I'm lucky, Kal Tec will replace it but I seriously question weather I want to shoot another one again.
+General Caeser its almost 100% assured you had some sort of obstruction.
probably a round didnt clear the barrel.
im not a fan of keltek.... but that isnt the guns fault.
isnt your fault either.... dont get me wrong.
unless your constantly looking for a hang fire/weak round... your not going to notice it, especially when "rapid shooting".
Funny thing, I wasn't rapid firing. I had fired 2 clips then reloaded for my 13 year old son. He fired 12 to 15 rounds, had a jam and handed it to me. I cleared the jam (round ejected) and handed it back to him. It was then that the gun barrel exploded. I am thinking obstruction as well. I finally carefully extracted the round (and it wasn't easy) to find that the round was an empty shell casing. So, you are right probably was a round in front of that one. But not 100% sure. Kel Tec wants me to send the gun into them. I plan on sending it off tomorrow.
mags* not clips
Yes. Had a hard time getting Kel Tec to do much. I took the gun to a Gunsmith and they said they would send it off to Kel Tec for a $45 fee plus shipping. I figure if I get the gun fixed this might be okay.
+General Caeser sounds like a squib load, when the projectile doesn't complete leave the barrel. hopefully everything gets taken care of. one of my buddies just picked one up yesterday.
Just bought a PMR-30 today to replace my old EDC; beretta 21a.
Hello I'm sorry to bother You. But I really need as much feedback as I can get. How do You like the PMR? Long story short I got one arm and need something I can depend on. You can pm me if You like that better. Thanks
@@codyarnett3931 I just replied to your other comment, but if you only have one arm you can do much worse than the pmr 30. The recoil is very light and manageable. The only issue you would have with just one arm is the size of the grip. It’s very long since it has to hold 22 Mag. It isn’t the most comfortable to hold and shoot single handed. The magazine is also very difficult to load initially, the spring is very tight in it.
@@daffymouse5309 thanks
@@codyarnett3931 really late replying, but you should check out the Smith and Wesson EZ line
Great target ideas and a great test of a unique Kel-Tec. Might need to pick one of these up for target practice.
I bought a pmr 30 a few years ago. Had feeding problems. So I polished the feeding tube. Tha magazine had some flash where ammo feeds so polished it too. Iightly oiled metal slide action. Works great now. Lots of fun.
I like .22 magnum, however I like the .17 HMR better. I have a nice Savage in .17 HMR that is the best rifle I have ever owned. I will never get rid of it.
Would love to have one but have had three keltecs and all were jamOmatics
Quit limp wristing them.
Quality and grain of ammunition make a big difference with any kel tec.
22 Magnums are Deadly. At 200 meters it does hit hard as 9mm with less recoil and more Ammo in the Magazine.
For a little .22, it is a pleasantly surprising little weapon. Definitely no toy.
Keltec has a lifetime warranty. You are going to need it. I've had it for 1 1/2 years and I've sent it back 4 times. FTE FTF and 2 case ruptures. CCI 40gr Maxi Mags, Maglula load assist tapping the back cleaning every 50-100 rounds. The gun stores and range doesnt stock them because the buyer returns with problems. If it's a $200 firearm you get what you pay for but at $450.00 price point Keltec Pmr30 is a piece of JUNK. Thank you for your time.
.22 and .22WMR is about as dirty as it gets and rimfire in general can be iffy. More frequent cleanings are a must. I have far more ammo issues with all of my rimfire firearms than I do with the firearms themselves.
Fun Fact: The .22 caliber short was originally developed for self-defense in 1857 by Smith & Wesson.
My brother took a deer with one shot with a 22 short.
@@ericgautreaux1752that’s illegal
Simply the perfect gift for a middle-aged single mom!
Mine kept on jamming while I was at the range.
The Smith said the magazines were defective. Calling the factory today to see if they will make good on these as these came with my purchase.