Hi guys....I'm a gunsmith with 30 years experience. I recently picked up a pmr30 from a guy who was so disgusted with it he sold it to me like new for $100- his idea. I figured I'd fix whatever was wrong with it. After playing with it for a week, I had identified so many issues that I had decided to throw it in my forge. Literally. I just hadn't had a reason to light it yet. Then I saw the Mcarbo bundle. I've been very impressed with other Mcarbo kits- believe it or not I gave a hi point carbine the full mcarbo treatment, dropped it in an HTA PCC stock, and people cannot believe that's what it is after seeing and shooting it. It is a great little PCC! I dropped the $250 or so on the PMR30 bundle, installed it in about 30 minutes with polishing, and so far I have put 350 rounds through the gun, all brands, without a single misfeed or issue. The record before the bundle was 4 (4) rounds without an issue. Amazing job as always, guys...very well done!
@@michaelhennessey8927 : Enough to exceed what they're charging amortized out over each kit. That said, the kit is most likely worth every little _pinched penny_ in Willie's grungy pocket, don't you think?
My son took his apart to clean it and couldn't get it back together. He brought it to me completely disassembled in a box and said I can't get it back together. KIDS!!!!!! So I got it back together from watching this video got all the springs back in place. But for some reason the trigger is acting up. You have to pull the trigger a couple times to trip the hammer. Any suggestions on what it could be?
I got my PMR30 3 years ago, new in Phoenix. I had a couple of feed issues and then read the instructions. New guns have a break in period, and when you load the mags, you have to load them and smack them every 5 rounds to bump the shells back. I do this now, and I have had almost no issues. The gun works great. I love it.
Well, I was going to throw my pmr in the trash and call my gun store and tell them to stop selling them until I came across this video. Said why not, bought the kit, watched the video to install it, walked out on the back porch and smoothly ran a full mag…. I have to say, absolutely worth the money, absolutely an amazing video. Thank you guys what a game changer
First range time with my M*Carbo Equipped PMR 30. Incredible. I never had problems before the install but the aluminum trigger with adjustments was my biggest surprise. It makes a huge difference. The frame support insert really makes the gun feel solid. 120 rounds yesterday on M*Carbo PMR-30 and no hiccups at all. It literally turns a 400 dollar gun inyo a 650 dollar gun. Went with the red anodized trigger for bling. Very happy.
I watched the whole entire video. I love the attention to detail and of course the humor. Please keep making videos and keep me posted on any upgrades for this gun.
I purchased mine in 2019, and had jams with every mag I used. I purchased 2 extra mags, thinking it was going to be some fun time shooting. I saw a vid on applying a thin strip of glue on the mag to tighten it up, so I did that. It helped a little, but I still need to shoot only the recommended ammo. Looks like I now need to get this bundle and do some real amour work, and since I'm semi-retired I'll have the time. With all that said, I must emphasize the EXCELLENT videoing of the tear down and reassembly. This has got to be one of the most detailed videos I've seen on diy projects. I'm a car guy, so I watch a lot of vids on working on the car, but nothing compares to this. The explanation and video shots were very clear and easy to understand...Good Job! Now get some Working Hands ointment for your hands and fingers...they're too dry. Working Hands will fix it up real good...Great Stuff!
A #4 plastic wall anchor for hanging pictures on drywall (yellow in color) works great as a snap cap. The extractor will actually pull it from the chamber just like a spent case.
I have had zero issues with my pmr30 but my cmr30 total different story! With the help of you guys they are both great running firearms! Thank you so much guys!
Ordered a kit due to sootch mentioning you. Found this gem of a video. Got it installed tonight. The video was a resource that is so valuable! The quality of the parts and there performance are next level. The PMR looks less plastic. The manual of arms is easier to go through and operate. My mag button spring was swallowed by the black hole in my basement when it decided to nope out on being installed……hard sigh… I’ve got one in the mail.
I picked up a new PMR30 Tuesday and did the kit install Saturday. I probably should've ran some rounds through it first but I didn't want to be disappointed with it. Kit installed easily with the most difficult part being the spring on the back of the feed ramp. First 4 mags ran flawlessly. Thank you for the quality product.
just bought a PMR 30 yesterday (6/16/2022) new from a local shop, went to the range and ran 50 rounds of CCI 30 grain maxi mag TNT through it without even 1 fail, so maybe kel-tec has fixed everything that was wrong about it, as it is a excellent handgun. I would recommend to anybody without hesitation.
Bought my new PMR 30 last week (4/10/2023) new from a local shop, went to the range and ran 50 rounds. Had at least 6 jams with CCI 40 grain maxi mag. Went back 2 days later 50 more rounds with only 5 jams. Will try a different round and see if there is any cure. But right now, I'd call it a total POS.
It's important to remember that if you install yourself, your lifetime warranty with keltec is over. I bought this product and had keltec install, yes they will install all mcarbo parts including this entire kit for 40.00 vs the 150.00 that mcarbo charges and will warranty your firearm as well. If you do install yourself and can't show documentation that either keltec or mcarbo did install no warranty.
Come on man, this gun will last a lifetime???? The plastic will? Even small repairs, what's the turnaround for lifetime warranty part replacement? Will keltec be around? This gun already needed an upgrade from the get. What's that tell u . 1 gun I'd buy from them. Their shotgun? Take my super black eagle put eXtended tube. I got 2 in my hand. OO buck. That gun will last lifetime!!!!!!!
@@JohnSmith-gx2mw For those who worry about a warranty pay your $40 and keep the receipt. BUT really !! I did mine and I am not a gun smith only an average skilled person. I do not fear the gun is ever going to need to go back to kel-tec . Before I did the full upgrade I knew it would have feed problems from the research,and it did just like all the others . After, well I can only say WOW. This gun is the cats MEOW light accurate and nearly flawless action, cant blame the gun for bad ammo.
Why in the world would you have keltec install it and ruin your warranty? I've been swapping friends parts back and forth for years and keeping significant warranties
@@lokichoki_ Missing the point my friend, keltec and Mcarbo work together, keltec will install mcarbo part for you cheaper than mcarbo will and when keltec dies the install you maintain your warranty.
Thanks for these videos and these parts. I rebuilt 2- S2K’s 40S&W and 9mm, and now my PMR with Mcarbo parts and without your videos I’m sure it would have been a debacle instead of a very successful venture. Lots more shooting instead of clearing malfunctions. Great stuff. Cheers.
Just installed this combo. Worth every penny. Now if we could only make the mags better. I was amazed how much plastic was in this gun. Got it for a trail gun because of the weight. May just trust it enough to use it.
Would like to see a pre-assembled stainless steel guide rod selection with spring weight options available (stock and heavy) with a "c-clip" type retainer to replace the spring wire retention method or a two piece guide rod like Kimber uses in "Commander" sized .45's or Springfield uses in compact XD's. Would also like to see more information on metal or metal hybrid magazines you mentioned, especially around the top magazine lips with metal sections, like Lancer does on AR-15 mags like the Lancer AWM L-5.
I lust used this video to put my new PMR-30 together with the upgrade kit. It went really well due only to the meticulous attention to detail in the video. TIme to hit the range!!!! Thanks so much!
Would help if you mentioned the manufacturer and weight of bullets used. I run CCI maxi mag FMJ 40grain and use Lucas grease on rails. It always runs flawlessly
Thank goodness they did this but I had such a horrible experience with my PMR-30 that regards I would never buy another weapon from KEL-TEC. I feel like you have Responsibility to your customers to put out a reliable product regardless if the weapon could be used to protect your life and your family’s lives!!!
Just finished recoil spring install. Was the easiest parts of whole upgrade. Saved for the last, cause I thought it would be a problem. Got a block of wood drilled a hole until I came up right diameter. The only hard part was which end which. Finally pushed on one of the retainers, and one moved. That was the toughest part. Slid spring on put on retainer, held down app. 1 inch. Got the new wire clip. There is a grove around recoil rod.put it on kept spinning it until it was in. Used needle nose until it looked like before. Simple ,easy. Felt pretty good. Kel-tec is making these things cheeeeep. You can do it!!!!!
I just installed this M*Carbo All in one Bundle on my PMR 30. Everything went great. I did over tighten the hammer housing pin screws at first causing the gun not to reset. The trigger bar was getting pinched. I loosened it up and it works fine. Then my pre-travel and over travel set screws were not quite where I wanted them. I found by turning the over travel screw inward with a pair of needle nose pliers; while the loctite is still wet, I could then access the pre-travel screw with allen wrench and the trigger depressed. Then I backed the over-travel back out again with needle nose pliers. You could also just cut the short leg of the allen key down to fit I guess. But if the loctite is still fresh; it's easy to move them.
You ought to send one of these over to Paul Harrell. It might redeem the gun a bit for him, considering how he liked everything BUT its reliability out of the box.
I have had my PMR30 for a couple of years now. I have probably put 500 rounds through it, which is not much I know. I had only one hang up, with multiple brands of ammunition, different weight bullets, some actually decades old. I never had rapid fired it, that might have made a difference, too. I was watching a guy on TH-cam doing a review on a PMR30, that is where I heard about Mcarbo upgrades. So l ordered the new feed ramp (and polishing kit), new extra power recoil spring, the frame reinforcement, the heavy buffer and heavy take down pin. Probably should have gotten the whole bundle but I watched the video from Mcarbo, about 45 minutes and I had it all installed without any issues, except the little washer retainer for the recoil spring, I couldn't get it all installed without grinding a very small amount off of it, it wouldn't fit in the groove when I squeezed it down it over lapped about .030" all I had to do was just barely touch the grinder wheel. Anyway I would say it went great! I went out and shot rapid fire without any issues, the box of ammo was some old Winchester rounds, 45gr the price on the box was $6.50 that gives you an idea of the age, lol! The Mcarbo parts were amazing, thank you Mcarbo!!!
couldn't agree more ... I have two pmr 30s n had the cmr 30 which I gave up on that one n ditched it ... n got the Walther wmp ... and I can say hands down the Walthers def heavier but farrrrr more reliable and more well thought out than the pmr 30.. such as integrated feed ramp to barrel... integrated buffer to barrel .. integrated loader on steel frame mags with plastic shell outer ...4 dif indiv. mag releases .. keltec needs to takes some pages outta walthers book n revamp the pmr... I have the all in one bundle for one pmr and the other pmr I have runs flawless stock .. both bought from same shop , both new , both new gens, sent the one to keltec 3 times now n that's why I ordered the all in one ... so hopefully it'll improve it even more than what keltec had it running after it's last return trip from the factory .
Stainless steel feed ramp SPRING install. This videos is a great help Seems redundant to say, watch it before, during, after to review ur part install. I took my time. Be in no hurry. Parts were great pmr 30. Only one thing to mention, the spring tool they send you. Most places the thickness of the tool isn't critical . But on whole upgrade,,,,, stainless steeleel ramp IT Is. Tried, and tried to install spring. Finally figured out it was the thickness of mcarbo tool was the problem . I have big hands, couldn't grip this tool sent well. I got a small flat screwdriver, took out dremel, attached diamond cutting disc. I had the spring installed just few minutes. Screwdriver was a small one that had a clip that could be carried in your shirt. But the thinnest blade would be best .or buy his .Took a 99¢ driver I had on hand and made it work. Mcarbo tool sent was also too wide. Couldn't see placement well. Total upgrade went great overall. Love red trigger. If it was black one, would've LOVED it. Great staff fast shipping. Overall 4.5 stars . Only reason not 5 outta 5 was the tool. Magazine spring was easy. I didn't have their bench tool. Also cut off trigger adjust hex head so I could adjust trigger with trigger installed. Cut it past curve to maybe 3/ 8 inch. Got trigger, SWEET. Thank carbo.
John Smith , another thing u can do in place of replacing the magazine catch is to run a bead of gel superglue under/across the magazine raised lip, it will put the magazine a tad higher, same as the mag catch would do..
just got that pro kit today for Xmas! I absolutely love the pmr30 so I can't wait too installbthis kit! just gotta order a few tools just to make sure. with this video I feel quite comfortable doing the installation.
I want a milled frame for one of these. That would be worth the price, but 250 for some springs and little levers and a rubber bump stop is a bit steep.
I’ve done your all in one upgrade and it is better then stock but the magazine Is still a big problem. Hopefully you can see this and with trial and error you can eliminate this problem with your knowledge
I’ve always been a fan & collector of antique firearms & ancient oddities, I only own a couple modern day boom sticks. Decided I want a PMR-30 last year & immediately identified several issues after 100 rounds! My 150+ year old cap’n ball revolvers were far more reliable haha! I had this weird fascination with that PMR nonetheless & finally stumbled across my lost brethren at MCARBO… Figured what the heck & went for the everything package a couple weeks back. Took me 1 1/12 hours to install, and mind you I rarely work on any modern day firearms! I did save that annoying spring with the silly “guitar string” retention piece on bolt for the next day, & that took 30 careful minutes alone due to factory design & personal struggles lmao! After the MCARBO kit & my F.J. Feddersen extended barrel, this thing shoots like a reliable laser gun & that’s exactly what it looks like!!! MCARBO, you guys are amazing! When can I get a couple metal mags, I’ll gladly take a prototype or two!? Keep up the amazing work 🫡🤠
I was thinking of buying a pmr30 but after watching this video I don't know now looks like if they had trouble with the gun they would have fix the problem from the factory instead of the buyer have to spend more money?
Thank you for this Video. Gave this pistol a 2nd chance in life. Runs amazing NOW, vs every 7th rnd would jamb. Nothing but great things to say about this Video. Great editing. Thx again
Any likelihood you will offer a complete PMR30 pistol kit with all the MCarbo accessories installed (including the pistol) similar to the sub 2000 in the future? I would be interested in purchasing that directly from you instead of getting a pistol and sending it to you to have the parts installed. That way it would be covered by Keltec’s warranty with the MCarbo parts installed.
I've been gathering a lot of info on handguns and ammo to make my first couple purchases. Although the PMR30 isn't going to be my first buy, I think it will be a close #2 as a project to build up with your kit/help. The detail in the video is awesome. I can already hear the mag dumps
I bought one of these PMR '30s and did all the upgrades on it. I would not stake my life on this pistol, ok for the range but I still carry my Sig P365...it goes bang every time and does not smoke stack like the Kel tec.
Wonderful video for one of the funnest experiences at the range and where you make them turbocharged well I hope to get one for myself one of these days when humpy straightens up
Great video series. I started before the full bundle so I think I can break this gun down blindfolded by now. I finally can cycle 30’rounds with cci now and am grateful to you guys for saving the 30 from the toy chest. I just added the safety’s and slide lock. Fantastic enhancements. Find something else to add for us so we don’t lose touch😂.
Thanks for this vid. Currently in process of hand fabricating an aluminum FCG outtve extruded square stock for my 2nd PMR. (No, not for $ale, as a back-up, one is none parts gun) (PMR's Serialized part for those who dont yet know) Funny, I'd bought the entire secondary pistol from eBay, sans the FCG box for a paltry 185-200$ a year or so back. Ill def be purchasing your PMR upgrade kit for both.
I am 95% certain my left and right safety levers were in the wrong baggies from the factory. Took me a bit to figure out what the deal was but if anyone else has that problem or just somehow mixed them up it will result in the safety sort of sitting between positions and not functioning. Switching them to the correct orientation will immediately fix the problem. I thought I had messed something up inside the gun until I realized what was happening!
Helpful tip..., a dummy snap-cap can bre made from a plastic #4 (yellow) drywall anchor. Will protect chamber rim / firing pin and extracts just like a spent case.
Great video! I didn't do the "whole kit" due to my preferences - but the feed ramp, frame support and mag release are all in! Maybe some day after I use up the extra buffers I bought when it was new I'll replace that, but honestly, in over 500 rounds through, mine doesn't look as bad as the one in this video. The only thing I noticed on mine when putting the new mag release in was that the mag release pin in the PMR was slightly rough or mushroomed? - so I had to finagle a bit more than what I've seen in this and the other videos to get it on. That said, after install it works AMAZINGLY well and now that I did the PMR, I think a feed ramp and mag release are next up on my CMR.
I've been wanting to purchase a PMR30, but for these exact! issues, I have not! Very nice setup to improve the stock PMR30, but my question is WHY hasn't KEL-TEC built the new models with these imporvements?! In mass production these minor improvements can't cost much to a new improved PMR30 X.
Amazing mines complete bone stock over a 1000 rounds through it, NOT ONE FAILURE!!! Yes you read that correctly not one failure to feed, not one failure to eject. I say that, but I also use 40 or 45 grain (mainly 40 gr) CCI. I have ran Armscore and one 50 round box of Winchester….not dyna point Winchester heard to absolutely stay away from those, again absolutely flawless. I know things will wear out so now I have options to keep this fun gun running.
@@brian770 just to let you know. The Manuel does say for best reliability stick with 40grains on up. I’m very surprised you didn’t have any malfunctions, there are a ton of you tube videos showing a lot of failures with 30 grain. But glad to hear it ran reliable. 👍
@@MM_405 ya, the range was in the basement of the shop we bought it from, and all they had was the CCI TNT 30 grain ammo, i even asked if they had 40 grain and i had to go with what they had, i too was suprised that it worked sooo well. am looking at the Mcarbo kit right now to give me piece of mind.
At last,you fixed it, really wanted one but severe reliability issues simply would not stop, so i bought the Walther wmp, still might buy the keltec,we will see
This is why I went with a Smith & Wesson everybody tries to say this one's so much cheaper and works just fine and I didn't like it at all I tried a friend of mines before I was going to get one and let's just say he owed me some money and now he doesn't because he saved me a lot!! My Smith & Wesson 22 Magnum has not had any problems. I can push that thing out there as fast as I can pull the trigger. But it's about $250 more than the Kel-Tec too! Kel-Tech has never impressed me. The only one I've ever bought almost blew off my right hand and it was a factory defect and because they dicked me around for a year and a half they wouldn't replace it because it was discontinued so $400 as a paperweight. A gunsmith couldn't even fix it cuz the barrel was literally put into it at an angle. I'm lucky I still have a hand.
Got this all put in. I was having to pull the trigger twice to get the reset. Then I remembered what you said about over tightening. Backed them off and it worked perfectly. Watching that mag dump was like watching a millionaire throw money in a fireplace. I wish I had that much .22 Magnum. I bought this kit because my Pmr would only reliably cycle CCI. Hopefully I will be able to use the Winchester and Hornady I have. We will see. I spent alot of time getting the trigger just right, and I gotta say, it feels amazing.
Additionally went my P30 went to keltec they automatically upgrade any part that has newer version at no charge, i got new Barrel plus several other parts upgraded, add that to mcarbo kit all for 40.00, BTW at range functions flawlessly!
M•CARBO + : Excellent video; *superb* *_content_* along w/ well-acted/Oscar nomination *_presentation_* of same! Accordingly, the video and the entire M•CARBO team receives a much-deserved _YT_ 'thumbs-up' 👍🏻! Exceptionally well done, guys! Keep up the _"good work"._ 👏👏👏
A few weeks ago I picked up the PMR and CMR new. I ran through 4 mags on the P and 5 on the C right out of the boxes with nary a hiccup. I still Think I might do the kit on the pistol just 'cause its neat.
I used this video to install the full kit. I had to forego the guide rod springs due to eye sight. I did buy the tool you suggested, but not the block. I assume the guide rod may have been accomplished with the block. I tried a table vise. Thanks for the video!
Absolutely love my PMR 30, actually qualified for my CWP during range time Instructor was surprised to see PMR 30 fire without a hiccup I replied always use 45 grain ammo He did ask if I was going to use my PMR 30 as my EDC in which I replied due all the polymer, probably not, I'll use FNS 9c for EDC The wear on my PMR 30 due to maybe using 45gr ammo, definitely interested in getting your upgrades, even optics, maybe sending my firearm to y'all for installing upgrades if possible Question Will upgrades void warranty if I do upgrades
Looks like getting a Holster for the Science experiment is gonna be a trick, and I would think that having the sight so high would mean you have to pick the diestance to sight in..anything closer or farther wont be on point due to the 2 Axis system...they can only meet in 1 place
I have a PMR 30 bone stock with issues similar to what you showed. In addition I have a loose piece that appeared in my lap while clearing this afternoon. I am game and need to identify and repair this part that has.clearly broken off. I also want to be considered for the test/try out of scope. Also I would like to order the kit. I can text photos of broken part that is “T” shaped….
Sure send the sight mount my way and I can provide useful feedback, it looks interesting. I've been meaning to purchase this combo package for a while anyway. I own about 6 pistol red dots and a crap loaf of rifle red dots. I own both the PMR-30 and CP-33. No mods to either at this point.
Hi guys....I'm a gunsmith with 30 years experience. I recently picked up a pmr30 from a guy who was so disgusted with it he sold it to me like new for $100- his idea. I figured I'd fix whatever was wrong with it.
After playing with it for a week, I had identified so many issues that I had decided to throw it in my forge. Literally. I just hadn't had a reason to light it yet.
Then I saw the Mcarbo bundle. I've been very impressed with other Mcarbo kits- believe it or not I gave a hi point carbine the full mcarbo treatment, dropped it in an HTA PCC stock, and people cannot believe that's what it is after seeing and shooting it. It is a great little PCC!
I dropped the $250 or so on the PMR30 bundle, installed it in about 30 minutes with polishing, and so far I have put 350 rounds through the gun, all brands, without a single misfeed or issue. The record before the bundle was 4 (4) rounds without an issue.
Amazing job as always, guys...very well done!
Yeah, too bad it's fifty bucks worth of parts for two hundred and fifty bucks. Of course, it used to be THREE hundred and fifty bucks, so...
@@Telephonebill51 How much time and money do you think they spent on R&d, machining , testing etc etc etc?
@@michaelhennessey8927 : Enough to exceed what they're charging amortized out over each kit.
That said, the kit is most likely worth every little _pinched penny_ in Willie's grungy pocket, don't you think?
My son took his apart to clean it and couldn't get it back together. He brought it to me completely disassembled in a box and said I can't get it back together. KIDS!!!!!! So I got it back together from watching this video got all the springs back in place. But for some reason the trigger is acting up. You have to pull the trigger a couple times to trip the hammer. Any suggestions on what it could be?
Sounds like a bullshit commercial to me. Try again.
I got my PMR30 3 years ago, new in Phoenix. I had a couple of feed issues and then read the instructions. New guns have a break in period, and when you load the mags, you have to load them and smack them every 5 rounds to bump the shells back. I do this now, and I have had almost no issues. The gun works great. I love it.
Well, I was going to throw my pmr in the trash and call my gun store and tell them to stop selling them until I came across this video. Said why not, bought the kit, watched the video to install it, walked out on the back porch and smoothly ran a full mag…. I have to say, absolutely worth the money, absolutely an amazing video. Thank you guys what a game changer
First range time with my M*Carbo Equipped PMR 30.
Incredible.
I never had problems before the install but the aluminum trigger with adjustments was my biggest surprise. It makes a huge difference.
The frame support insert really makes the gun feel solid.
120 rounds yesterday on M*Carbo PMR-30 and no hiccups at all.
It literally turns a 400 dollar gun inyo a 650 dollar gun.
Went with the red anodized trigger for bling.
Very happy.
I watched the whole entire video. I love the attention to detail and of course the humor. Please keep making videos and keep me posted on any upgrades for this gun.
I purchased mine in 2019, and had jams with every mag I used. I purchased 2 extra mags, thinking it was going to be some fun time shooting. I saw a vid on applying a thin strip of glue on the mag to tighten it up, so I did that. It helped a little, but I still need to shoot only the recommended ammo.
Looks like I now need to get this bundle and do some real amour work, and since I'm semi-retired I'll have the time.
With all that said, I must emphasize the EXCELLENT videoing of the tear down and reassembly. This has got to be one of the most detailed videos I've seen on diy projects. I'm a car guy, so I watch a lot of vids on working on the car, but nothing compares to this. The explanation and video shots were very clear and easy to understand...Good Job!
Now get some Working Hands ointment for your hands and fingers...they're too dry. Working Hands will fix it up real good...Great Stuff!
A #4 plastic wall anchor for hanging pictures on drywall (yellow in color) works great as a snap cap. The extractor will actually pull it from the chamber just like a spent case.
I have had zero issues with my pmr30 but my cmr30 total different story! With the help of you guys they are both great running firearms! Thank you so much guys!
Ordered a kit due to sootch mentioning you. Found this gem of a video. Got it installed tonight. The video was a resource that is so valuable! The quality of the parts and there performance are next level. The PMR looks less plastic. The manual of arms is easier to go through and operate. My mag button spring was swallowed by the black hole in my basement when it decided to nope out on being installed……hard sigh… I’ve got one in the mail.
I picked up a new PMR30 Tuesday and did the kit install Saturday.
I probably should've ran some rounds through it first but I didn't want to be disappointed with it.
Kit installed easily with the most difficult part being the spring on the back of the feed ramp.
First 4 mags ran flawlessly. Thank you for the quality product.
If you cracked the case, you voided your warranty.
just bought a PMR 30 yesterday (6/16/2022) new from a local shop, went to the range and ran 50 rounds of CCI 30 grain maxi mag TNT through it without even 1 fail, so maybe kel-tec has fixed everything that was wrong about it, as it is a excellent handgun. I would recommend to anybody without hesitation.
I bought one 2 months ago. I've only had it out once, but 100 plus rounds with not one single issue either.
Bought my new PMR 30 last week (4/10/2023) new from a local shop, went to the range and ran 50 rounds. Had at least 6 jams with CCI 40 grain maxi mag. Went back 2 days later 50 more rounds with only 5 jams. Will try a different round and see if there is any cure. But right now, I'd call it a total POS.
@@RobertMacCready Give it time. Break in time is several hundred rounds.
It's important to remember that if you install yourself, your lifetime warranty with keltec is over. I bought this product and had keltec install, yes they will install all mcarbo parts including this entire kit for 40.00 vs the 150.00 that mcarbo charges and will warranty your firearm as well. If you do install yourself and can't show documentation that either keltec or mcarbo did install no warranty.
Wow great advice 👌🏾
Come on man, this gun will last a lifetime???? The plastic will? Even small repairs, what's the turnaround for lifetime warranty part replacement? Will keltec be around? This gun already needed an upgrade from the get. What's that tell u . 1 gun I'd buy from them. Their shotgun? Take my super black eagle put eXtended tube. I got 2 in my hand. OO buck. That gun will last lifetime!!!!!!!
@@JohnSmith-gx2mw For those who worry about a warranty pay your $40 and keep the receipt. BUT really !! I did mine and I am not a gun smith only an average skilled person. I do not fear the gun is ever going to need to go back to kel-tec . Before I did the full upgrade I knew it would have feed problems from the research,and it did just like all the others . After, well I can only say WOW. This gun is the cats MEOW light accurate and nearly flawless action, cant blame the gun for bad ammo.
Why in the world would you have keltec install it and ruin your warranty? I've been swapping friends parts back and forth for years and keeping significant warranties
@@lokichoki_
Missing the point my friend, keltec and Mcarbo work together, keltec will install mcarbo part for you cheaper than mcarbo will and when keltec dies the install you maintain your warranty.
Thanks for these videos and these parts. I rebuilt 2- S2K’s 40S&W and 9mm, and now my PMR with Mcarbo parts and without your videos I’m sure it would have been a debacle instead of a very successful venture. Lots more shooting instead of clearing malfunctions. Great stuff. Cheers.
Just installed this kit and could not have done it without the video!
Just installed this combo. Worth every penny. Now if we could only make the mags better. I was amazed how much plastic was in this gun. Got it for a trail gun because of the weight. May just trust it enough to use it.
Would like to see a pre-assembled stainless steel guide rod selection with spring weight options available (stock and heavy) with a "c-clip" type retainer to replace the spring wire retention method or a two piece guide rod like Kimber uses in "Commander" sized .45's or Springfield uses in compact XD's. Would also like to see more information on metal or metal hybrid magazines you mentioned, especially around the top magazine lips with metal sections, like Lancer does on AR-15 mags like the Lancer AWM L-5.
I lust used this video to put my new PMR-30 together with the upgrade kit. It went really well due only to the meticulous attention to detail in the video. TIme to hit the range!!!!
Thanks so much!
Would help if you mentioned the manufacturer and weight of bullets used. I run CCI maxi mag FMJ 40grain and use Lucas grease on rails. It always runs flawlessly
Omg glad you did all this an yes would love the stainless rod. I will be ordering the kit...
Getting my pmr Thursday. Already have the bundle(thanks mcarbo). Ready to put it together! Will let you know. Great instruction vid!
Successful install. Shoots as fast as you can pull the trigger. No jams. End of story.
Thank goodness they did this but I had such a horrible experience with my PMR-30 that regards I would never buy another weapon from KEL-TEC. I feel like you have Responsibility to your customers to put out a reliable product regardless if the weapon could be used to protect your life and your family’s lives!!!
Needle nose Vice-Grips make changing the recoil spring much easier!
Just finished recoil spring install. Was the easiest parts of whole upgrade. Saved for the last, cause I thought it would be a problem. Got a block of wood drilled a hole until I came up right diameter. The only hard part was which end which. Finally pushed on one of the retainers, and one moved. That was the toughest part. Slid spring on put on retainer, held down app. 1 inch. Got the new wire clip. There is a grove around recoil rod.put it on kept spinning it until it was in. Used needle nose until it looked like before. Simple ,easy. Felt pretty good. Kel-tec is making these things cheeeeep. You can do it!!!!!
I just installed this M*Carbo All in one Bundle on my PMR 30.
Everything went great.
I did over tighten the hammer housing pin screws at first causing the gun not to reset.
The trigger bar was getting pinched.
I loosened it up and it works fine.
Then my pre-travel and over travel set screws were not quite where I wanted them. I found by turning the over travel screw inward with a pair of needle nose pliers; while the loctite is still wet, I could then access the pre-travel screw with allen wrench and the trigger depressed.
Then I backed the over-travel back out again with needle nose pliers.
You could also just cut the short leg of the allen key down to fit I guess.
But if the loctite is still fresh; it's easy to move them.
I have been looking for a .22 for my girlfriend. Once upgraded, I believe this will be a perfect fit for her. Thank you.
I have an early gun that has all the problems. I would love to be a test platform to see how much of an improvement these parts make.
Would love to see some work on the mp7 (cmr30) maybe even a brace and short barrel?
Mine has the original all in one bundle. Runs flawlessly. Loads of fun.
Mine too, both of them.
You ought to send one of these over to Paul Harrell. It might redeem the gun a bit for him, considering how he liked everything BUT its reliability out of the box.
Might have to hit him up
I have had my PMR30 for a couple of years now. I have probably put 500 rounds through it, which is not much I know. I had only one hang up, with multiple brands of ammunition, different weight bullets, some actually decades old. I never had rapid fired it, that might have made a difference, too. I was watching a guy on TH-cam doing a review on a PMR30, that is where I heard about Mcarbo upgrades. So l ordered the new feed ramp (and polishing kit), new extra power recoil spring, the frame reinforcement, the heavy buffer and heavy take down pin.
Probably should have gotten the whole bundle but I watched the video from Mcarbo, about 45 minutes and I had it all installed without any issues, except the little washer retainer for the recoil spring, I couldn't get it all installed without grinding a very small amount off of it, it wouldn't fit in the groove when I squeezed it down it over lapped about .030" all I had to do was just barely touch the grinder wheel. Anyway I would say it went great! I went out and shot rapid fire without any issues, the box of ammo was some old Winchester rounds, 45gr the price on the box was $6.50 that gives you an idea of the age, lol! The Mcarbo parts were amazing, thank you Mcarbo!!!
Metal magazines would definitely be a plus!
couldn't agree more ... I have two pmr 30s n had the cmr 30 which I gave up on that one n ditched it ... n got the Walther wmp ... and I can say hands down the Walthers def heavier but farrrrr more reliable and more well thought out than the pmr 30.. such as integrated feed ramp to barrel... integrated buffer to barrel .. integrated loader on steel frame mags with plastic shell outer ...4 dif indiv. mag releases .. keltec needs to takes some pages outta walthers book n revamp the pmr... I have the all in one bundle for one pmr and the other pmr I have runs flawless stock .. both bought from same shop , both new , both new gens, sent the one to keltec 3 times now n that's why I ordered the all in one ... so hopefully it'll improve it even more than what keltec had it running after it's last return trip from the factory .
Stainless steel feed ramp SPRING install. This videos is a great help Seems redundant to say, watch it before, during, after to review ur part install. I took my time. Be in no hurry. Parts were great pmr 30. Only one thing to mention, the spring tool they send you. Most places the thickness of the tool isn't critical . But on whole upgrade,,,,, stainless steeleel ramp IT Is. Tried, and tried to install spring. Finally figured out it was the thickness of mcarbo tool was the problem . I have big hands, couldn't grip this tool sent well. I got a small flat screwdriver, took out dremel, attached diamond cutting disc. I had the spring installed just few minutes. Screwdriver was a small one that had a clip that could be carried in your shirt. But the thinnest blade would be best .or buy his .Took a 99¢ driver I had on hand and made it work. Mcarbo tool sent was also too wide. Couldn't see placement well. Total upgrade went great overall. Love red trigger. If it was black one, would've LOVED it. Great staff fast shipping. Overall 4.5 stars . Only reason not 5 outta 5 was the tool. Magazine spring was easy. I didn't have their bench tool. Also cut off trigger adjust hex head so I could adjust trigger with trigger installed. Cut it past curve to maybe 3/ 8 inch. Got trigger, SWEET. Thank carbo.
John Smith , another thing u can do in place of replacing the magazine catch is to run a bead of gel superglue under/across the magazine raised lip, it will put the magazine a tad higher, same as the mag catch would do..
LOLOL, thanks for the back rub offer, but I will wait on the upgraded masseuse offerings!!
LOLOL, movie star!
just got that pro kit today for Xmas! I absolutely love the pmr30 so I can't wait too installbthis kit! just gotta order a few tools just to make sure. with this video I feel quite comfortable doing the installation.
I want a milled frame for one of these. That would be worth the price, but 250 for some springs and little levers and a rubber bump stop is a bit steep.
I’ve done your all in one upgrade and it is better then stock but the magazine Is still a big problem. Hopefully you can see this and with trial and error you can eliminate this problem with your knowledge
I’ve always been a fan & collector of antique firearms & ancient oddities, I only own a couple modern day boom sticks. Decided I want a PMR-30 last year & immediately identified several issues after 100 rounds! My 150+ year old cap’n ball revolvers were far more reliable haha! I had this weird fascination with that PMR nonetheless & finally stumbled across my lost brethren at MCARBO… Figured what the heck & went for the everything package a couple weeks back. Took me 1 1/12 hours to install, and mind you I rarely work on any modern day firearms! I did save that annoying spring with the silly “guitar string” retention piece on bolt for the next day, & that took 30 careful minutes alone due to factory design & personal struggles lmao! After the MCARBO kit & my F.J. Feddersen extended barrel, this thing shoots like a reliable laser gun & that’s exactly what it looks like!!! MCARBO, you guys are amazing! When can I get a couple metal mags, I’ll gladly take a prototype or two!? Keep up the amazing work 🫡🤠
I was thinking of buying a pmr30 but after watching this video I don't know now looks like if they had trouble with the gun they would have fix the problem from the factory instead of the buyer have to spend more money?
Thank goodness...none of the advertisements every ten minutes. You have my support! The others with all the advertisements...not so much.
Thank you for this Video. Gave this pistol a 2nd chance in life. Runs amazing NOW, vs every 7th rnd would jamb. Nothing but great things to say about this Video. Great editing. Thx again
Any likelihood you will offer a complete PMR30 pistol kit with all the MCarbo accessories installed (including the pistol) similar to the sub 2000 in the future? I would be interested in purchasing that directly from you instead of getting a pistol and sending it to you to have the parts installed. That way it would be covered by Keltec’s warranty with the MCarbo parts installed.
I've been gathering a lot of info on handguns and ammo to make my first couple purchases. Although the PMR30 isn't going to be my first buy, I think it will be a close #2 as a project to build up with your kit/help. The detail in the video is awesome. I can already hear the mag dumps
I bought one of these PMR '30s and did all the upgrades on it. I would not stake my life on this pistol, ok for the range but I still carry my Sig P365...it goes bang every time and does not smoke stack like the Kel tec.
Wonderful video for one of the funnest experiences at the range and where you make them turbocharged well I hope to get one for myself one of these days when humpy straightens up
Great video series. I started before the full bundle so I think I can break this gun down blindfolded by now. I finally can cycle 30’rounds with cci now and am grateful to you guys for saving the 30 from the toy chest. I just added the safety’s and slide lock. Fantastic enhancements. Find something else to add for us so we don’t lose touch😂.
Mine works good so far but I'm definitely going to get this k I t because I love .22 Mag.
I recently bought the Keltec CP 33 and it now my favorite 22 Lr firearm I have it's a ausome little pistol
Bought mine today!!!!
Thanks for this vid.
Currently in process of hand fabricating an aluminum FCG outtve extruded square stock for my 2nd PMR. (No, not for $ale, as a back-up, one is none parts gun)
(PMR's Serialized part for those who dont yet know)
Funny, I'd bought the entire secondary pistol from eBay, sans the FCG box for a paltry 185-200$ a year or so back.
Ill def be purchasing your PMR upgrade kit for both.
Your a legend bro!!! The best build guide!!! The back rub comment got me 😂
I am 95% certain my left and right safety levers were in the wrong baggies from the factory. Took me a bit to figure out what the deal was but if anyone else has that problem or just somehow mixed them up it will result in the safety sort of sitting between positions and not functioning. Switching them to the correct orientation will immediately fix the problem. I thought I had messed something up inside the gun until I realized what was happening!
Thank you, I had the same problem!
Helpful tip..., a dummy snap-cap can bre made from a plastic #4 (yellow) drywall anchor.
Will protect chamber rim / firing pin and extracts just like a spent case.
Instructions very clear, still had to shut the lights off and lay on the floor with a flashlight to find my mag release spring 😂
awesome upgrades thank you for the video
The pre-assembled guide rod would be awesome
this is why i have various kinds of gloves for various jobs. protect your hands. safety first.
I bought one yeaterday, thought i try speer gold dot to see how it acted. 1000fps 40 grain. Cycled perfect, couldnt believe it. Was a pain with cci
If I'm not mistaken that Kelgren guy also designed the old G-Dog special the Tec 9
Damn it man. You making me want to buy this 22 and have you fully upgrade it for me. Lol
Great video! I didn't do the "whole kit" due to my preferences - but the feed ramp, frame support and mag release are all in! Maybe some day after I use up the extra buffers I bought when it was new I'll replace that, but honestly, in over 500 rounds through, mine doesn't look as bad as the one in this video.
The only thing I noticed on mine when putting the new mag release in was that the mag release pin in the PMR was slightly rough or mushroomed? - so I had to finagle a bit more than what I've seen in this and the other videos to get it on. That said, after install it works AMAZINGLY well and now that I did the PMR, I think a feed ramp and mag release are next up on my CMR.
you're hilarious with the antics. I was LOL the entire time. i really hope I can find one used at decent price and then I can rationalize doing this
Who is making a holster ? for when I add the red dot with the newly up and coming aluminum red dot holder..
MCarbo is, it is in the works.
I've been wanting to purchase a PMR30, but for these exact! issues, I have not! Very nice setup to improve the stock PMR30, but my question is WHY hasn't KEL-TEC built the new models with these imporvements?! In mass production these minor improvements can't cost much to a new improved PMR30 X.
I love the way it looks and the recoils
Amazing mines complete bone stock over a 1000 rounds through it, NOT ONE FAILURE!!! Yes you read that correctly not one failure to feed, not one failure to eject. I say that, but I also use 40 or 45 grain (mainly 40 gr) CCI. I have ran Armscore and one 50 round box of Winchester….not dyna point Winchester heard to absolutely stay away from those, again absolutely flawless. I know things will wear out so now I have options to keep this fun gun running.
just bought one yesterday, also bone stock and ran a box of CCI 30 grain maxi mag TNT through it without a single fail.
@@brian770 just to let you know. The Manuel does say for best reliability stick with 40grains on up. I’m very surprised you didn’t have any malfunctions, there are a ton of you tube videos showing a lot of failures with 30 grain. But glad to hear it ran reliable. 👍
@@MM_405 ya, the range was in the basement of the shop we bought it from, and all they had was the CCI TNT 30 grain ammo, i even asked if they had 40 grain and i had to go with what they had, i too was suprised that it worked sooo well. am looking at the Mcarbo kit right now to give me piece of mind.
maybe because the CCI TNT is 30 grain but its 2200FPS.....?
@@brian770Chronograph it. It's not going 2200fps out of the pmr 30.
One last request.....Magazine Springs for the PMR-30. Since I own 2 PRM-30'S I'll soon be purchasing 2 upgrade kits.....
At last,you fixed it, really wanted one but severe reliability issues simply would not stop, so i bought the Walther wmp, still might buy the keltec,we will see
This is why I went with a Smith & Wesson everybody tries to say this one's so much cheaper and works just fine and I didn't like it at all I tried a friend of mines before I was going to get one and let's just say he owed me some money and now he doesn't because he saved me a lot!! My Smith & Wesson 22 Magnum has not had any problems. I can push that thing out there as fast as I can pull the trigger. But it's about $250 more than the Kel-Tec too! Kel-Tech has never impressed me. The only one I've ever bought almost blew off my right hand and it was a factory defect and because they dicked me around for a year and a half they wouldn't replace it because it was discontinued so $400 as a paperweight. A gunsmith couldn't even fix it cuz the barrel was literally put into it at an angle. I'm lucky I still have a hand.
I got a pmr 30 in the safe brand new in the box I would be interested adding the bundle and red dot mount,and report back on it all…
A treaded end with a nut on the rod, would make replacing the spring easier.
I am a transitioning veteran leaving the Air Force and I would be interested in trying out this fun with the upgrades
Got this all put in. I was having to pull the trigger twice to get the reset. Then I remembered what you said about over tightening. Backed them off and it worked perfectly. Watching that mag dump was like watching a millionaire throw money in a fireplace. I wish I had that much .22 Magnum. I bought this kit because my Pmr would only reliably cycle CCI. Hopefully I will be able to use the Winchester and Hornady I have. We will see. I spent alot of time getting the trigger just right, and I gotta say, it feels amazing.
Additionally went my P30 went to keltec they automatically upgrade any part that has newer version at no charge, i got new Barrel plus several other parts upgraded, add that to mcarbo kit all for 40.00, BTW at range functions flawlessly!
Fine tune the feeder port into the barrel and youll clear that up unless your running some real soft tip hollow points in it.
M•CARBO + : Excellent video; *superb* *_content_* along w/ well-acted/Oscar nomination *_presentation_* of same!
Accordingly, the video and the entire M•CARBO team receives a much-deserved _YT_ 'thumbs-up' 👍🏻!
Exceptionally well done, guys! Keep up the _"good work"._ 👏👏👏
A few weeks ago I picked up the PMR and CMR new. I ran through 4 mags on the P and 5 on the C right out of the boxes with nary a hiccup. I still Think I might do the kit on the pistol just 'cause its neat.
Plan on ordering this kit, ship it and pistol to keltec
We need a Titanium guide rod. 👍
Damn Jared, that's a great idea bro !
the R & D that goes into building theses guns is mind boggling
Very impressive install instructions 👍
Great video , surely should help your sales. Hate the thought it does not run the mag out of the box.
If you load it as instructed and use 40 grain or higher you have NO issues stock - save $250.
I agree with you man, this guy's video is definitely suspect.
Yeah I switched to 50 grain put about 500 rounds through it with zero issues
This is also my experience as well. Right out of the store no problems because I read the manual and followed instructions
40 still gave me some issues
@@karmasuture1cci maxi mag in 40gr and you'll never have a problem, it's one of the recommended cartridges by Kel Tec. Hope this helps
Some kind of short horn at the rear of the slide to ease racking like the HK VP9 would be nice, please.
I have to hold or push up magazine while shooting, to keep it from jamming. Still love the gun.
Damn I need this full set up
I used this video to install the full kit. I had to forego the guide rod springs due to eye sight. I did buy the tool you suggested, but not the block. I assume the guide rod may have been accomplished with the block. I tried a table vise. Thanks for the video!
just drill a hole in a block of wood until u get the diameter tight for the spring change
the 30rd mags are so bad ass with the SS . I need to install all the bundle and get a red dot.
Absolutely love my PMR 30, actually qualified for my CWP during range time
Instructor was surprised to see PMR 30 fire without a hiccup
I replied always use 45 grain ammo
He did ask if I was going to use my PMR 30 as my EDC in which I replied due all the polymer, probably not, I'll use FNS 9c for EDC
The wear on my PMR 30 due to maybe using 45gr ammo, definitely interested in getting your upgrades, even optics, maybe sending my firearm to y'all for installing upgrades if possible
Question Will upgrades void warranty if I do upgrades
Yes
is there a reason you wouldn't just use a rotor/E-clip for the retainer for the spring?
Can you do the Taurus TX22 up grade that gun jams quite often?
Very good video..ill wait until yall get the stainless steel guide rod as a complete package before i order the entire bundle.
Looks like getting a Holster for the Science experiment is gonna be a trick, and I would think that having the sight so high would mean you have to pick the diestance to sight in..anything closer or farther wont be on point due to the 2 Axis system...they can only meet in 1 place
I think it’s sad to drop money on the Kel-Tec and then have to turn around and drop another couple hundred to make it shoot correctly.
Just receive the spring kit. Can I send the springs back and get your kit? Live in Jax . North Florida Ammo wants your business! GREAT Company!
Why aren't the upgrades on every model being sold without having to pay extra?
Here I was debating between the wmp or the pmr30. Now I’m at academy getting a pmr and getting a kit
I have a PMR 30 bone stock with issues similar to what you showed. In addition I have a loose piece that appeared in my lap while clearing this afternoon.
I am game and need to identify and repair this part that has.clearly broken off. I also want to be considered for the test/try out of scope.
Also I would like to order the kit.
I can text photos of broken part that is “T” shaped….
I have one of these, I would be VERY INTERESTED in the whole kit including the new guide rod and spring combo.
so forsure going to pick this kit up if I find pmr in the wild
Late to show. Just got my toy. Where ya get the bench block?
Sure send the sight mount my way and I can provide useful feedback, it looks interesting. I've been meaning to purchase this combo package for a while anyway. I own about 6 pistol red dots and a crap loaf of rifle red dots. I own both the PMR-30 and CP-33. No mods to either at this point.