INTP Growth - Dealing with the Blindspot
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Today I discuss a topic that I believe will be useful for INTPs and help them personally grow. Topics include:
Using your Ti hero to help solve problems in your life
Brief overview of the INTP cognitive functions
What our blind spot is and why its important to develop this function
What INTPs can do to improve this blindspot
I hope this video is helpful! Thank you for watching!
Great analysis of Se. Super underrated and rarely discussed among INTPs.
Thank you. I agree we don't even consider Se most of the time and I hope other INTPs can use this info to their benefit
@@intpsurvivalguide2473 oh yeah. I really do!
Thank you dude
The first time I hear these advices .. I rarely replay to people who act in a mean way with me because I don't have the right answers at the right moment ..
But I keep on replaying that scene over and over again and imagine how I could react and stand for myself years after it happenned .
I should learn how to reply to insults , especially the unexpected ones !
I do the same thing, by the time I know what to say the moment is long past.
Yes it doesn't have to be the perfect response. Sometimes just showing that you can stand up for yourself is enough
I find it’s easier to question what they said than insult them back… especially if it’s a more subtle put-down or back-handed compliment. Make them explain themselves! Analyze their responses… usually they sound dumb as shit. Explain to them why you think they sound dumb as shit. Maybe repeat dumb-as-shit things they’ve said in a mocking tone of voice. Dealing with the unexpected is less about having a one size fits all answer than about having a flexible algorithm that works in most situations. If all else fails, keep tabs on them, figure out what matters to them, and in the next argument denigrate that subject matter as much as possible, in front of as many people as possible. Make it funny, too… they’ll see other people laughing as taking your side. And learn how to fight… all sensible people do, if they can. It rarely comes up, but it will.
Start developing some attitude my man, it's way better to be seeing as arrogant / snob / aggressive than to have people walking over you. I had been in this situation way too many times when i was young and i have also been to the other extreme of aggressiveness due to sheer anger, nowadays I know how to be assertive but let me tell you that, it's WAY better when people know you're not someone to be fucking with
Just keep going for it train your mind the next time you will come up with a come back after a month then after a week then after two days and then when you master it you will come up with it in a seconds
I think for an INTP my Se is uniquely very well developed because of experiences Ive had throughout my development. Through a combination of going through school in a hostile environment, and my dad teaching me that fighting back is more important than keeping compusure that when push comes to shove I can let loose and live in the moment for the sake of the future.
Same! One of the few things I am actually grateful of my dad for. "Your small and your female. Sometimes the only thing people will understand is if you knock em in the head with something heavy. Be loud and act crazy." This mentality has helped me in various situations.
Similar to me. I delevoped loads of cofidence by over analysing myself and realizing the parts of me that i really value. That confidence helped me to have a well developed Se too. My dad used to say me that too, but i dont think thats the reason.
I had a defining moment where I felt my Se bust through the wall like the KoolAid Man....i was 20.
Agree I was encouraged to fight. I have no problems with conflict 😆
I think you developed habits for it than developed the actual se blind spot
I think we’re so smart that once we reach a point of being sick of disrespect we can discern when and when not to react in situations. This is a big lesson I learned this year & I’ve noticed growth.
Fellow INTPs. When we here are talking about Se something very important and helpful comes to mind. I trained martial arts for a long time with mediocre success. My point is that it was really worth it to feel my body and the body of others in such a way. It made me more confident and helped me a lot to be more connected to the world around me. Do some physical work and it will help a lot. And I do not let other people push me around anymore like when I was a child, because they can not intimidate me anymore. Especially not with their words. This has nothing to do with a physical fight. It has to do with Se and Se alone. I still need to learn to keep my shit (Si) together.
Agree i used to be super skinny as a kid an got bullied, when i started working out people started to give me more respect, i was still the same person mentally, but physically i was different, people even start to give you more of a voice, interrupt you less etc etc Don't neglect your physical appearance because chances are you don't even notice your lack of physical presence.
Very much indeed. Learning even basic kicks and getting better at basic striking gives you so much familiarity with your own body. Which makes me confident around people i used to think I can't mess with. I found that because of this i no longer am as affected by how people see me. Because of this, I can stop critiquing myself and i become just a little bit more responsive in talks.
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The number one way to improve your Se is to hit the gym and get in good shape. The shape that can kick some ass. When you're able to kick others' ass, don't really kick people's ass. That is wrong.
Don't kick their ass, the point of getting in shape was to be confident, dominant, and look as if anybody messes with you will have a hard time recovering from the injury.
For INTPs, getting physically attractive and powerful is the best life advice for growth. It's so underrated.
I grew up in a way that forced me to train my Se in my teenage years. Those years are the reason I'm good at shredding people's mocks disguised as jokes and calling them out. I can win a fight of wits with multiple people at the same time with no sweat coming down my forehead.
I also learned emotional intelligence, along with many other things. It allowed me quickly figure out which responses and comebacks will ignite their insecurities to a point they'll be too mentally crippled to reply back.
I don't like putting people down because it's a waste of shit ton of my energy, but I know the importance of putting people in their place. And that's what I learned in my teenage years.
So, Seeing how weak and pathetic I was, pushed over by stronger men. I decided to get in shape just to make people realize that messing with me is not just a bad idea intellectually and emotionally but also physically, It's been a game changer.
Women notice you, lots and lots of attention, too much if I'm being honest. I also approach women now. I've been called very charismatic too by one of them(INFP).
Men envy you for your seeming effortlessness to do everything.
But keep in mind. If you're going on this path of growth. You need to be aware to not be cocky like the douchebags who became the reason for you to change this way.
Be humble about your strength and intellectual superiority. You also need to look out for narcissism and psychopathic behavior that can arise from it. Believe me, narcissism can target you if you improve your Se drastically. I actually had to sit down and remind myself to not be arrogant but kind and humble to everybody.
Hi! i am a INTP with ADHD and my Hyperactivity/impulsivity is severe, so that made me use my Se on a regular basis because i was a trubble maker with additude problems. Was opposite for me in that i need to froced my self not to use it as much and now i only use it when i or someone else are being mistreated. ADHD also makes it harder to control emotions so that have developed for me to so now i have a pretty good grasp on that to. I consider my feelings when i make decisions in/for my life but other then that i put them aside. All i wanted to get across is that my ADHD have made many of my "perks" level up, i have good social skills if i really feel that i have the energy for it. Had no problems with friends,a weird person with impuls/hyperactivity problems makes you fun but i didnt connect with anybody 100% due to nobody thought like me. Im gratefull over my ADHD :)
Funny you say that as I keep stumbling on INTPs with ADHD that said ADHD alowed them to be more outspoken and external in their other functions just due to sheer energy output. Getting loud and rowdy when situation calls. Interesting. There is a meme that ENTP is INTP with ADHD and I think because ADHD makes INTP appear more extraverted and we generally are which is indeed more of a perk with own drawbacks that I hope can be managed to high degree.
I think I have a higher Se than average intp, I’ve never liked being bullied or interrupted and always fought against it wether verbally or physically, I like to get my point across and I don’t tolerate bullshit.
same bro, never cared about " offending" any body, lmao.
The truth must be told in any case, there's no room for illogical people.
for me, Se was the exact opposite, very hight so that i crossed the line many times when i was a kid and i physically hurt a lot of people, as i grew Older maybe 13/14 i acknowledge people around me as human beings too.
i'm sure i've developed many of our blind spots VERY early on. I haven't had any problem with confronting people, never cared about saying something that i consider the truth even if it would hurt someone's feelings. I was calm and respectful when i was a kid, but i honestly think that i was the most capable of causing the largest amount of damage if i had to. I think i even crossed the line many times back then, but as i grew up i started seeing people as PEOPLE more so i relaxed my SE.
As a teen and in my early twenties, my Se was super developed. I never let anyone push me around, and was never afraid to express and defend any controversial opinions. People who didn't know me would try to bully me, but it didn't take them long to realize that I was a formidable opponent, and I even garnered a reputation as the girl who would intellectually destroy anyone who messed with her.
I don't know what happened, but somewhere along the way, my Se just kind of fizzled out. At 28, I feel like I've lost the ability to stand up for myself, and sometimes I just smile and nod in group settings when I don't agree with the general opinion, just because the effort of arguing seems to be too much.
It could be that you've gotten wiser in your years and can properly choose, which battles are worth fighting. I also sometimes nod and let it go because I know with certainty that I couldn't change the result, e.g. very dominant boss makes a decision. If it's a colleague on my level, I'm gonna bite back.
Personally don't mind the length. The reason it was perhaps longer than usual for you, is that you actually had important topics to cover. And you covered them. Certainly gave some food for thoughts. Off to process them.
I actually unknowingly developed this in school. Since it felt kind of hard for me to fit in i figured i don't have anything to lose socially. thankfully i was in an environment that didn't have much bullies. So i started annoying people by just laughing at them if they got punished due to easily avoidable things. as they couldn't do anything i just continued doing this and later on i had no problem speaking my mind or being confident. when i finally stopped and got around to developing relationships with others people slowly opened up to me and i could act in ways that i knew would get on their good side.
By doing this i retained my originality and figured out the things that humans like and dislike and now i can do things i couldn't before due to mental restrictions placed on myself. i would never recommend this for anyone as it is better to not destroy relationships but if you are in a similar situation as i was then remember that there is nothing to lose.
I'm fortunate that I really loved skateboarding - and sometimes I tap into those memories to relate to the "EXTREME " factor.
Sometimes, you just gotta have fun. I think INTP's have the roughest time with what I call, "Inefficient output". Start with your skill set, share, and "Compete". Enjoy the process.
I cannot disagree with a single thing you just said. Actually was mind blown. Thank you
Thanks for watching!
Great video super accurate, I think. I'm gonna apply some of the advice and say something we're all thinking but probably won't say. INTP's are afraid of getting their asses whooped by these crazy Se users. Let's be honest, physicality just isn't our strong suit. I can barely put my shirt on the right way round most times. A verbal slight is far more tolerable than a full-on physical abuse (wedgies, being pantsed, shoved in a locker, or just being knocked TF out). Now we can retaliate when the Fe rage takes over but let's just say I wouldn't put my money on an INTP in a boxing match. Have you thought of any unique INTP ways around this?
I have begun working out every single day to get myself into better physical shape. I'm not saying I would best an Se user in a fight but I stand a higher chance now. I think if you show the Se user that they can not pick on you without something being said back, they may respect you a little more. If you continue to let them pick on you then they will just see an easy target and keep doing it. I can honestly say that I have worked myself up to a place where I don't want to get in a fight but I am no longer afraid of throwing hands if need be. Not a perfect answer but I hope it helps. Thanks for watching!
@@intpsurvivalguide2473 Thank you sir. I look forward to your coming videos.
@@intpsurvivalguide2473 i,m also in a goodshape and looks and try to wear black cloths and shoes with a long beard haircuts, this made us confident,,thus others dont bully on us...i dont like to fight,,but i made others try not to fight me through my looks and attitude..but i,m very calm inside ,always try not to make conflicts but do it when it is essential...you are correct . at first it is hard to raise our voice....waiting for your new videos...at last i found an intp like me..... take bad experiences as positive,learn ,grow and conquer it through our ti and ne which is our greatest power......
@@intpsurvivalguide2473 How about learning martial systems and applying them?
Join a boxing gym. It'll help you get in shape, boost confidence and stand up for yourself physically when needed.
This has been uncannily spot-on, everything you said, and it hit deep. I knew exactly what you were talking about, and it kind of also hurt me that this has always been the way I am and I haven't tried to change it despite that in reality I have always been aware that this is a weak side of myself.
Your videos are super helpful! Thanks!
This is very accurate. I cannot find one thing in this video that has not happened in my life. Thank you for this advice. I will try to follow them.
Amazing I needed to hear all of this
Love the video, not too long at all. Pointed out the important don'ts: Si too comfortable, Fe always socially harmonious, Se not in your face. Thanks again, Tyler!
Thanks dude for publishing this kind of video. It's really helping me out! Subscribed to your channel.
Glad you enjoyed it! Thank you for watching
Earned another sub. Really great content for intps
I already do all of these Se growth things except the "Stop always doing the comfortable thing" one lmao
I think the last bullet point is applicable in all the function action points of an INTP. Lol
Good point, well made. Makes me consider the Se blind spot and the possible cause of some INTP issues.
Believe me, I've realized all of what you adviced us to do even before watching this video!🤯 I really am a real INTP! Thank you so much! I'm also realizing that this Fe inferior issue has been bothering me a lot lately and I was unsure about the solutions to it. You proved them right! I'm in the right path then!
Thank you so much I understood what you said Hope I don't forget and follow them
People be dickheads and disrespectful sometimes for no reason so Using your Se sometimes when it’s needed can be life changing and you’ll feel good bout yourself later too
I am so happy that I went through all the traumas in my life I grew up in the ghetto getting jumped I thought only white kid and I went to prison five times lost my daughter like she passed away in my arms my best friend got murdered and I feel like all this drama has made me deal with people more aggressively and I feel like I’ve used my 10-year-old and my FI and developed them fully I understand life and how blessed I am now thank😢😂idk fr fr
So this is why I don't like arguing with people, even though I do argue with people. Everytime I have to argue with someone, I kinda don't wanna hear their feedback on my points wheares 2 years before, I wouldn't even care about how I come out when arguing! It's starting to bother me more and more these days.
Dude i am an INTP let me tell u one thing about being able to to counter these conflict / uncomfortable situations wheather ur in a group or not i dont like to engage myself in an any potential disagreements or potential dramatic situation especially with Se doms is not because i am nice or I Care about social harmony because of low Fe.....it's actually the opposite because of low Fe if situation becomes heated i am capable of humiliating that person so low that thy ll start crying or in case any physical confrontation especially with Se doms i can see myself literally doing a hell lot of damage ( might go into crime territory) i u understand what i am telling...coz of Fi demon when INTPS are really provoked or angry coz as u said if INTP should stand for himself and not afraid of dramatic situations but with Se and Fe guys around i can sense thats conflict will go beyond debate for INTP coz we have demon Fi and it's not gud in these situations so i prefer to silently sit and observe in a group and even if i hate it i try to blend with group interest even i i dont agree.....not because INTPS are weak compared to Se doms in being physical or agressive because for INTP everything is extreme and i know this as a fact..... INTP is more savage inside and if that dark side is activated no Se dom can match INTPs masculinity or agressiveness since we are aware of our dark side we doesn't like to take risks in group
Relatable!
Good comment
Very true.... I believe it's our ENTJ shadow at play when our dark side comes out (or our Fi demon). People underestimate us at their peril, as with parent Ne we are excellent at understanding someone's weak spot, but will generally only use this to our advantage under duress, or when cornered, and you are correct, Se doms will have little (non-physical) come back once we let fly.
Oh man so true, and INTP in full Fi demon mode can do insane damage
Same that's why I try not to get angry which in return makes me look like a doormat smh. But ig my problem is I don't want people to see me as crazy or this person I'm not when I'm upset so I try to remain on my chill side at all times.
When I was at school we had to do "English Comprehension" tests. We would read a passage from a book and then answer questions on it. I always thought the questions were stupid and obvious and I couldn't see the point of writing the answers so I would get marked down. A similar thing happened with maths exams. I flunked my History exams because I knew the answer and couldn't be bothered writing it down at all, and just ended up day-dreaming about the historical scenario the questions were about. (We studied the French Revolution and Italian Unification.) I would look at the problem and solve it in my head and write down the answer but I got into trouble for "not showing my working". Of course, "showing your working" is the way that INTPs improve their lives in relation to the outside world.
I was just praying a few weeks ago about having God teach me about becoming more aware of myself.
Your video isn't the answer to my own personal problems, but it's a good explanation of where I might need to look next.
Thanks for not making a dumb rambling "Well akshullly" video. This was really well thought out and great.
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I maybe wrong about this, but I'm pretty sure you can develop some kind of Se processing it with your Ti and make it a thing of your own through your Si. I'm just talking about personal experience. My Se was practically inexistent for about 30 years, but I somehow managed to develop some kind of Se, or at least an emulation of it. having spent so much time overthinking and over analyzing the reasons of all my failures, I came to the conclusion that I needed Se - without even knowing about Se or cognitive functions at the time- to improve my life and I decided to force myself doing stuff that made me uncomfortable. It was awfully draining and painful, but when it led to something positive and satisfying or some kind of success, it felt so good that it fed my Si, and those things became a part of my confort zone and I'm willing to experience them again and again. Se trickster may be a real thing, but surely not something you can't overcome.
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I developed this by being a referee for little league. I was doing it for a friend who was in charge of the parks department and the parents and many of the coaches were hostile. Home games were absolutely full of conflict. What helped me to get over the hump and confront was advice from a veteran referee. I asked "when should I address problem people?"; which is not always obvious because yelling and getting involved is often not personal on the side of the parent or coach. He said, "it is your responsibility to control the game. You should do or say something when what is happening affects your ability to do your job." This helped me sort of give myself permission to be confrontational. When something happened I had to think through how to handle it and the next time it happened I addressed it. It made the games less toxic for all involved and I respected myself much more as a person and referee.
I think getting big physically helps with confidence and Se and people will respect you more, so workout go on a bulk, should help, like it helped me
thanks for challenging my viewpoint on Se. I always felt it was a nuisance because for the same reasons you said. Se is something highly valued in our society and it is worth developing. If someone has a Masterclass for Se developing, i'd like to know.
INTJ's backstabbing ends that thing quite soon. Don't you agree?
Let me tell you, as an OLD INTP, I have dealt with others looking at me cross-eyed, all my life, when in my over thought out mind, I was right. I have been forced to develop a death stare, in silence. I have also learned to walk away, and leave inferior minds with themselves. Just not worth allowing any of these people upset me. I am done. Please, don't wait as long as me to correct this. Oh, and yes, look them in the eye and let them know the power of the INTP mind. I wish I appreciated mine more, than I allowed others to make me feel like I was an idiot.
Good lesson. Just figuring this out. Showing facts and arguments are not enough. That only works around equals. Very tough thing to understand. I have this recurring problem: "why is this idiot arguing with me when he doesn't know what he's talking about?" It's all ego. They will want to argue because you make them feel insecure.
'The INTP death stare'
@@nikozdorovetskiy4604 If you know, you duck . . .
Great content. For the first time I could give my resentment at loud-mouthed people who don't know what they are talking about a name. I can get confrontational as I have trained myself to do that. But it still is a weak point for me. Losing a battle to win a war (or to have peace) is not wrong. However it has to be because the outcome of the argument is really not that important. In all other instances, don't be scared of a little blood - figuratively speaking, of course.😉
Firstly, thank you for this video. Secondly, I have found that I was actually enjoying engaging Se without realizing it during exercise (fast, aggressive, battle rock, etc). BUT I also realized watching this that Se could be invaluable tool for regulating and discerning Fe. It can help us discern and overcome "cowardly Fe" (going along out of fear) but still letting "value-based Fe" (grace, love, forgiveness, sympathy) stand, which is important to me. Cowardice is abhorrent to me, but grace and love are deeply held values. I did not know that I would ever have the way to reconcile shades of Fe, to strengthen Fi, etc but I can with Se, it seems.
I struggle with this, but I can do it when I'm drunk. Need to work on doing it when sober.
I guarantee anyone here, integrate Se into your general mode of being and you start to see the world changing around you. It's remarkable.
If you struggle with it, try getting drunk.
Haha I’ve had to do this at work recently and let people know I’m not putting up with BS
Good channel
One idea I found for developing the se was to get my enthusiasm under conscious control . I powerful social skill
I’m that INTP who’s behave like ISTP my entire life
Then get back to my own realm after self awakening cuz something triggered me
I feel much more happier but hate the procrastination and laziness
Se under supervision can be quite useful. I have it in my 4th slot. I find I like to be a little daring and spontaneous but it had to be developed a bit. It’s submerged but I have come to appreciate when it should be used and even embraced in moderation. I’m usually a pretty diplomatic politically correct person but there are times I know I need to speak up and I do. Also, I do notice that at times I like to try more physically daring things... it’s a balance.
Yes besides Ti, Se is the 2nd most useful function. Just my opinion obviously. But that ability to be in the moment and conquer your surrounding is great. Even though it is my trickster function I believe I have been developing it well. Thank you for watching!
When somebodey really want to train Se I can recommand going to a debating club.
In the right debating format (Ocpd), you must train your rhetorik and also your arguing structure so that others can relate on your arguments. This really helps to let others understand your thoughts better and espaceally faster. I think it is a typical INTP Situation to been missunderstood. Its a great feeling to turn that arround. Especelly when a hole group of people starts listening and implementing your arguments. Also you train to react to interjections spontaniously (later when you are better in debating). Through that you can react quick - witted in every situition. Even when you have worse knowledge than the outher sometimes you can convince them of something (but depends on the situation). So your intelligence can t be attacked this way.
Also you could have fun in the debating format bts, because there does only the conntent count and this is something where we are really talented in.
Great recommendation. I can really see INTPs excelling in this if they are confident in their logical abilities. Knocking someone down because of your unrelenting logic sounds like a great Se boaster. Thank you for watching!
We need a video about Anxiety plz
Becoming strong helps. Don't want to be bullied or joked at? Be strong so people sense you can be dangerous. This can be done through martial arts, or more visibly by lifting weights.
My problem is kinda the opposite. People tell me not to get angry and loud when arguing. I do that without realizing, and most of the times I'm not even angry, but i'm enjoying the argument a lot. Sometimes it's my frustration with people not understanding things that are complitelly obvious to me.
Edit: I have just seen a comment I myself did 7 months ago saying a symilar thing to what I'm saying now. Lol
I do resonate a lot with the "having the best solution" and people not even listening to what I'm saying. And if I say it forcefully then they see me as angry and it's even worse.
I also hate it when people do dangerous things just for the sake of it. My ISTP dad just today had to go the closest to the limit of the mountain to get a picture, and I almost got mad at him for doing so, because it makes me suffer a lot thinking août the worst outcome.
Who knows maybe my dad pushing me learning to play field hockey, skiing, paddle, Swimming, has made me an INTP with an Se more developed than usual. Even as a kid I loved gimnsatics, and liked doing acrobatics even though I was self-taught.
The other day, my friends compared me to my INFP friend, saying that even though he thinks of himself as smart (or even smarter than he is) he is not as confident with his opinions as I am (but they also say I think I'm smarter than I actually am). Those who said that were an ISTP and an ESTJ.
Exactly. The "anger" I think comes out in a combination of Thick-headedness on the part of the other person and the (oblivious on their end) insult. People do not understand that when you open your mouth, the words are carefully chosen and based on a pile of logic and knowledge. They struggle to see reason in even the most clear of arguments because they run in such a "pull it out of my ass" mode, they think we're doing the same. I've only learned recently to disengage as everything you say after their brains shut off will just infuriate them - they'll take every line of dialog offensively regardless of the fact that none was given. This just continues the escalation to the point that the only thing they should be pulling out of their ass, is their own heads, at least long enough to see daylight.
I don't get how he's saying Se doms don't care what people think when they have Fe child
It’s probably just your passion for the topic if you’re Intp u must love it if your Arguing
Doing daily SE things reduces my 'all or nothing' effectiveness. There is more utilization in being left alone until I'm not
Came looking for copper, found gold
Another problem I have is that I am politically homeless. If a politician says anything that's remotely untrue, even once, I cannot support that politician or their party. One example is when Jack Straw (UK Foreign Secretary at the time) called St George a "Turkish Arab". I am very interested in the history of the Eastern Roman Empire ... and St George (according to legend) was a Cappadocian Greek and lived long before there was a country called "Turkey" and even before the time of the Ottoman Empire. And he certainly wasn't Arabic. He would have had Persian heritage if anything, and Persians are not Arabs. (Modern-day Iran is not an Arab state.) The equivalent would be calling an indigenous person who lived on what we now call North America, an "American". Of course, Jack Straw was connected to the Iraq War nonsense, and I don't trust him because of that, but it was really the "Turkish Arab" nonsense that killed any trust I had because I would have thought that a Foreign Secretary should have had at least a basic understanding of history.
Every UK party has politicians that are equally idiotic, ill-educated, or just plain stupid. Argh.
Eh me dealing with Se types usually means physical violence growing up, if u wont listen to reason then i'll just hurt you until u do. But being an adult i cant do that without repercussion anymore so its really hard to figure out how to get those types to listen.
They don't. They are to be left in pain and powerlessness without ever knowing what happened, otherwise expect retaliation
Characteristics of Sensing
Si - wants to recieve and share an experience.
Se - want to gives and particular with thier experience.
Anyone can verify this with thier Ti. I didn't mine
Particular means they are selective on what they are experience. Examples
I don't like this guy, he dress like a bum in an event like this. While I'm wearing a nice cloths.
Intp here i feel like for me it tricked me so differently , i overused Se due to society’s pressure and got sick often. I exhausted my body way too much, walked too mchh , did so much physical work. I was so not in tune with my body and in general.. now in my thirties I’m forced to lay in bed most of day till I rebalance my nervous system from all that stress.
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hey man can you make a video about differences between the intp and entp becouse i resonate with soo much of intp but also so much of entp and im just confused..i think im an entp becouse im people focused
Wait, so in order to improve my Se all I have to do is argue loudly about points I don't agree with?
That sounds kind of awesome lmao
Just be passive aggressive mate
16:15 I can see this video getting me fired 🤣
"SE" If you're not living on the edge you're taking up space!??!
16:15 this point hit me hard 😑
I really hate this one group of people in my hostel and I still always help them whenever they ask me for it. They are all very loud and not very smart on top of that, extremely petty and immature.
They keep disturbing me and my INTJ and INFJ roommates when we are trying to do our own work or sleep.
I'll no longer tolerate it, I'll confront them about this issue and tell them firmly but politely their behaviour is bothering us and they should stop doing it.
So...what happened? 😁
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Confrontation didn't solve the problem, moreover, I was very mentally disturbed for days afterwards but I am glad I did it either way. Because I'd have always hated myself for not doing it.
I get my revenge(FiSe demon)from time to time. My punishment is proportional(Ti) with the fault or slight of the other person.
How do you go about doing that exactly?
@@intpsurvivalguide2473 It's a complex topic. Search for intp ager on Quora and you'll find your answer.
That is dangerous given that INTPs are prone to covert contracts and we aren't always as objective in interpersonal relationships as we think. My faith and trusting god to let others reap what they sow helped strip me of this negative trait as well as taming my biting sarcasm down to an emphasis of irony.
@@rogerhuggettjr.7675 All people are prone to covert contracts. Certain parts about the relationship are left said and others are left unsaid. It's just that people do not expect that the covert contract to be based on logic, reciprocity etc. in the case of intps usually because they make assumptions about intps. These assumptions can be quite incorrect and yet many people act based on them. For example, because intps are socially weird, they might assume that they have low social status and this might mean that other people could take advantage of them. When in fact, the intp might treat others based on other criteria than social status, like their character, their level of intelligence or fairness which are abstract concepts and different from the default social status setting.
@@adriantomole1019 I think the biggest pitfall for INTPs is caring about status. Its not natural to us so when we do its for the sake of society which makes us 2 degrees from who we are. It prevents us from operating freely which IS essential to who we are. Trying to get something we don't really need with tools that aren't equipped for attaining it is just asking to be frustrated.
I do get loud when I argue. And everyone says me being loud makes me lose the credibility.
I'm very argumentative and I always talk about tabu topics. Does that mean I have a quite developed Se? Or would that be the combination of Ti and Ne?
Are you sure you are an INTP?
@@intpsurvivalguide2473 I always have doubts but yes, I'm quite sure. Sometimes I think I'm an ENTP but I'm very introverted.
The "being loud when arguing" and being argumentative is a very common trait in my mother's family. I think it must be genetic lol.
Talking about tabu issues I think comes from the fact that I was the only christian in my school and people there would always try to argue with me about all the bad things of the church. I am also gay so I myself questioned a lot of things of the church and I would voice my opinion on those things that didn't make sense to me very often.
@@fertile_farmacy1802 my dad is an ISTP and even if we share a lot of traits we are very different in some aspects. He had to take me out of the house by force to make me play hockey, or skiing or play paddle... And when I was a kid my mind would be wandering who knows were when I was supoosed to be focused on the hockey match lol.
As a 12 year old I was obsessed with mythology. Then as a 15 year old I was obsessed with biology and chemistry, and at college while studying microbiology i was obsesded with psychology.
I hate driving, it causes me anxiety unless i already know the way. I was the least intimidating person in the world as a kid and a teen. Being short doesn't help either. I've only gotten more intimidating as i've learned to argue and being confident with my own intelligence.
I have a problem with being aware of my surroundings. I'm never aware of them.
Interesting. I've continuously tested as INTP, but I feel like I don't fit very well to what you are describing in this video. I am one of those people that say what I think, and I do actually revel a bit in disagreeing with everyone.
You may not be an INTP. You sound kind of like an ENTP possibly
@@intpsurvivalguide2473 I do think I'm introverted. I probably spend more time alone than 90-95% of the population. I can enjoy good company, but after a while it gets a bit exhausting and I look forward to being alone again.
I'll try to explain a bit why I think I'm fine with disagreeing with everyone. What's true doesn't change based on which beliefs are commonly held. It's independent from that. It's not good enough for me to believe something *because* that's what I'm expected to believe. Beliefs should be based on facts and logic. If I think the crowd is wrong, I will go against them. That's just the natural thing to do if you are more interested in truth than people's perception of you. Probably some of it is ego-driven as well. I get to go "Ha, you hadn't thought about x, y, and z, and you are wrong because of it". Also, I love to point when there are conclusions that follow from certain premises that people don't want to embrace as truth (often they are challenging to the persons grand narrative). For example, if I'm talking to an anti-capitalist person that complains about discrimination, I might point out that the mechanism of a free market makes individuals have to pay a cost of they want to discriminate (i.e. to discriminate is to hire a less qualified person for arbitrary reasons, thus leading to worse results, hence the cost).
What if I don't get the right reply in mind instantly? That's what happens to me, fighting is all I can do
That is difficult to answer. Maybe just remember some quick comebacks to at least same something.
Hey great video. However, isn’t SE also about being observant of one’s surroundings and people? Being present in the moment helps tackle unpleasant situations better and be as assertive as the situation requires. What are ways for INTP to improve presence in the moment? I’ve been told mindfulness meditation helps but I feel it’s always going to be tough for an INTP because of Ti function.
I think a good way to develop out SE would be engaging in activities such as cooking, baking or do any kind of sports, or anything that might keep us more aware of "physical" world if it makes senses
Hey so im not sure if im an intp or an infp
For example i figure something out or develop my own philosophy after a hard long contemplation process and pride myself of it which I assume is a Ti function but then when others come to me and have similar ideas I get upset because I should be the one having such ideas and I hate that feeling of envy since it isn't right and this conflict makes me think that is my Fi demon driving me to make my own indivualistic perceptions through my Tihero
Not for sure which type you are. Honestly sound more like an INFP but I could be wrong. But INTPs and INFPs share 4 different cognitive functions so we are very similar and can understand each other well. Love me an INFP!
How will it improve your life? I understand that you need to stand up for yourself when necessary, but I just don't u dertand how it's necessary to respond to petty shallow criticism.
I think he just meant is just to improve se. I liked your comment 💯
I love conflict and taboo subjects, and love provoking people .. could I be a different type ? Why did test say I’m intp a
INTP-A is more assertive. You may not be an INTP, or you may have a more developed Se
I’ve learn how to use my se from my brother being se dom, I don’t shy away from conflict 😈
That's a good thing
I dont even know I'm intp for real or not every test i take is different
Watching the Spartacus tv show and others like this also helps with this.
Love that show
Maybe it's better said that Ni critic is less about deserving, which sounds more like Fi, but more about asking, "What's the point? If I were to take action, would I even get the result I imagine. Do I want the drama from others either way?"
Hello. Why is the trickster worse than the demon function ?
This is just the way it is. Socionics has the demon and trickster function as the two worst functions, with trickster being the least developed. The demon function we can understand that it is important to develop and get better out. But is still undeveloped. The trickster is a total blind spot (unless you are aware of your MBTI). Just because a cognitive function is higher on the list does not mean more developed. Te and Ni are technically more developed than Si and Fe for INTPs. Socionics goes into greater details on this. I hope to incorporate Socionics more in my future videos
The more I am thinking about it, the more I am coming to the conclusion that the only correct approach is to get rid of all people from the life.
I have a no interest in proving anything to anyone, even less to fight a uphill battle against a moron, who is about to do something moronic.
I've always thought the purpose of Se doms was to give us someone to feel superior to. This video is a buzz kill! lol
Your superiority will increase if you can simulate their function, and defeat them in addition to your other functions. Se is also good at telling Si and and Fe to shutup for just a few seconds lmao
@@lordepichax3755 I don't have what seems to be the stereotypical clumsiness of INTPs so maybe practice with Si memory helps overcome some trickster weakness. When I was younger I was never the star, but I was the basketball player that if you took for granted would burn you left open. Ne creativity can make up for a slow release and less than stellar ball handling.
Me, an intp: i'm really not that great at historical sewing
Also me: *learns to sew and makes okay looking women's corset to fit my male body from a pattern i find in dutch speaking book, dutch not being my first language* "see? It's slightly uncomfortable in the wrong way, that stitching line is ugly and it's bulkier than extant exemples, it's useless !"
Sounds familiar lol
If someone insults me I honestly couldn't give a shit. I just let them keep talking then crush everything they say inside my own head using Ti hero to the point where their voice has the same significance as a dog barking.
I know this is an older video. But do you know anything about depersonalization. It’s been bothering for like a year now
I honestly do not know much about that. Thanks for watching!
Man it happened me so often back then... I think it always started when I got very stressed.
Once I got stressed because my exgf was a bitch and made me feel bad about everything I did that she didn't like, and my amygdala just said enough.
Is being quick witted an INTP trait? Often times when someone gives me some shit I'll quickly come back with a wise ass comment that can come across as cruel and shuts the other person down. Then I feel some remorse for saying it. This is an area where I would like to have a bit more control.
are INTP people cheap or is that a reasonable adaptation
I guess my Se is pretty well developed because I'm already a combative asshole lol
Going against my boss's opinions could make me lose my job.
Yes or it could make them respect you more. A tight line to walk for sure
@@intpsurvivalguide2473 in my case respect is not earning me more money, so until I have a fixed place I'll be cautious.
INTP test: when he says SE isn't needed... That's not true. Do you get extremely annoyed and immediately start typing a comment with the video paused/ignored?
I know I did. Welcome to it.
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this is untrue.. I’m INTP-a, apparently, if I trust the test and I agree being loud is stupid.. but no one can be as present as I can, and enjoy danger or improvise out of it the way I can. I find that most people are afraid of life, or each other, they lack banter or in the moment clarity, most of the time I find myself teaching them how to get out of their comfort zone .. I think you generalize a bit too much or maybe you identify with this classification system too much.. in any regard, whatever your type is, don’t get bogged down what others think. Just dance to the music of existence, as Allan Watts puts it.
You sound like an ENTP or ESTP. Glad you are able to live like that!
Can I pm you?
You can email me I provide that in the description
Caveat: none of this advice applies when you are surrounded by wokies.
My way of having developed Fi was making others cry. I was trapped by it, thinking I needed to anger and then harass those who triggered the demon mode, but the tears of weaker, adjacent ones solved my constant demon mode. Now I am no longer feeling between the wall and the sword by the same things. Not that I changed my views about them, though.
I hate loud arguments
I’m not sure if this is the right advice 🙃 we already don’t fit in doing this has a way of drama just following you. Damned if you do damned if you don’t type of thing from my experience so far
he's not giving you this advice to help you "FIT IN", it's a normal thing you should be able to do whoever you are.
@@ShadowZx22 we ain’t normal so what your saying makes absolutely no sense 👍🏾