INTP Potential | Why Si child is holding you back
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Today I discuss what I believe is an important topic for INTPs, and that is our Si child function and why it can hold us back from reaching our potential.
Topics include:
How to solve problems in your life by using Ti and Ne
What Si is exactly
The Ti-Si loop of death that INTPs can struggle with, and why this is a problem
How to get out of this loop as an INTP with specific examples.
Hope this video is helpful. Thanks for watching!
Us INTP's need to realise that being smarter than everyone doesn't mean shit if we don't get anything done. We work hard on our intellect but that generally doesn't give us anything in the real world. No one can see our accomplishments, no one can read our minds. All we do is dream. of ideas, of what we can become. Our lives are like the feeling of waking up from a dream and wanting to go back. We get stuck in those dreams. We are scared of waking up.
Very true
So true. Wow
Why? Because waking up comes with risk. Intp should take risk along their exploration to grow.
@@satriakesumap everyone should take risks. You can't grow without suffering
Wow
INTP + EXPERIENCE = THE GURU OF THEIR PROFESSION
been in a loop for a year, sleep feels better than life.
I hope you are able to work yourself out of this!
You can work your way out of this! We are problem solvers, and once we realize how a problem is impacting us finding the solution is inevitable. It becomes impossible to keep avoiding it like we could before. I went through this for years, and once I found a support group I could get comfortable in, sleep became less attractive. So much good insight in this video - things I have been doing that have worked, and new ideas to try out. You're not alone.
yep, today i stayed in bed untill 2:30pm
What I like the most in INTP forums or videos is I see very long comments. I’ve been criticized sometimes in why I text a lot but barely talk in person. Now, I see my own people. So glad to not be alone. Lol
ISTP?
Agreed.
Some INTPs like writing.
Though I don't think this is exclusive to INTP.
The more aware INTP have invested into their lower functions (from what I gathered so far) and will likely do more fact checking, resulting in more descriptive responses/information output.
1 thing that may also be helpful to INTPs is to build systems instead plans. Since INTPs are more likely not to follow through on their plans it is intuitive to just do things out of habit. Try it. Start small like forcing yourself to sleep at a certain time everyday. Eat breakfast at a certain time every day and so on...
Would you give more examples of how to implement a system instead of plans? I definitely gave up on making plans, I don't follow them
@@85Dnieto Like I said, start small. Do things without thinking much about them. For example if you want to study every day, just study for 5 mins when you are just starting. Do it again the following day until you make it a habit.
Half the time I feel sick because I eat junk and at irregular times. I will sleep when I feel like it. I don't go out because I never made plans to do so, thinking something would come up but it never did.
@@TaxingIsThieving before making any serious plans and trying to follow them you gotta have a healthy brain, man. so stop eating those shits, start following a healthy sleep schedule, you've got so much potential so do not let yourself down and just try to be the best version of yourself. get out of this unhealthy zone and do something good for yourself just one by one, get things done.
i know im pretty bad at this but i just hope i can help so good luck
Interesting
I'm a single mom and found out the hard way years ago what damage this can do. Luckily I hated being an immature p.o.s.
My thoughts as an INTP mom:
INTP women...don't have children unless you're ready to put your comfort on the back burner 95% of the time. Kids need a lot of love and time. It's your duty to provide that.
Prepare for never sleeping, never being alone, having people constantly invade your personal space and interrupt your thoughts and research, never having organized thoughts, saying goodbye to feelings of accomplishment and dignity, say goodbye to your creativity and any outlet you may have for a while... You will make a terrible and selfish parent of you're not mature and can't get Si under control. Just a fact. If you find yourself with children and are resentful of them it's your fault for not working on yourself. Grow up or your kids will suffer.
That´s what I´ve been thinking for years. I would be a terrible mother and I love this hypothetical child too much to ever do that to them.
Or the women in question maybe need an INTP husband like me because in my ideal relationship, everything related to the family and kids is a shared duty that is planned together. Except breastfeeding, sorry my tits don't work that way :)
@@stelleldir I disagree if the intp is old enough can be the better mom there nothing we can't learn.
@@annl.5512 Ok, go for it.
@@stelleldir well technically I never said I would I was talking generally... Mhh I think you should investigate more on your cognitive functions.
I found getting rid of A LOT of uneccesary stuff helped with keeping things in order too. Less dishes here, less there are to wash lol.
Great advice!
Thank you
Yeah I’m trying to adopt minimalism seriously so I can save money and have less STUFF/menial tasks to eat up my time.
That way I can focus on the heavy hitting things that will make a big impact on my life.
Haha, I've been doing the same thing :) I'm actually using now one dish and one set of service and everytime I need to use them I have to clean them (which is on daily basis).
I'm still thinking how to hack the dirty floor problem, though.
I’m an INTP. Also you look like a cute hippie
Ti = Think Intelligently, Si = Saved Information. If you're looping, don't just break into uncomfort zones. Ne = New Exploration, so go explore! Try stuff you're don't even know about yet!
I remember in my late teens I came across a study saying whatever social "role" you get in your early years, is the one you'll keep throughout your life. Say, if you're an outcast in school, no matter which situation you find yourself in later, with people youve never met before, you will automatically take the part of the outcast cause that's where you "belong".
When I heard about this it made me think about how our "place" is determined by how perception is reflected in a never ending loop and if I were to change how I present myself, the reflection would change and with that my place in social situations...
I embraced the doctrine "fake it 'til you make it" and went out into the world as if I was wanted and not socially awkward and after some time, lo and behold, I was no longer an outcast!
I'm not talking about adapting who you are to fit the acceptable norm, I'm talking about daring to put yourself out there and go where you for some reason believe you dont fit.
Yes, as an INTP I do still prefer to spend most of my time alone, but that said, when in a social environment I'm no longer feeling left out. Actually I kinda feel like people even enjoy having me there.
Now I just gotta escape the Ti-Si loop... This pandemic really hasnt been good for getting out of the comfort zone... 😅
Great comment
Haha, unfortunately that thing about the role in highschool is totally not correct for me. I was actually playing sports and was quite popular in highschool... it went only downhill from there :D I guess, that's the reverse "ugly duckling syndrome"
@@fabobg same here.been 12 years for me..
Great
In school I'd have considered myself above average. It was a really good school though. In college I was considered bright but extremely lazy. At work, I'm a complete loser, making one third of what my friends make on average.
I think I got into the Ti-Si loop, after a quite major emotional breakdown. And I knew deep down something was wrong, and even when I figured what the problem was, I couldn't change anything. Slowly, everything dropped. Like 'everything' and I even lost confidence in my intellectual skills, that I was once proud of. I have been trying to escape from this death loop for so long..
You can get yourself out if you really committ and convicne your TI hero that it is what is best for you. Good luck to you
God will help intp alot
@@dealwithit6909 WHAT?
@@dealwithit6909 it may take an act of God!❤️🙏
Thank you so much, the Ti-Si Loop of Death is what i've been fighting hopelessly for the last half a decade, now i know it's a researchable and somewhat common thing i can work on it in a new straightforward and hopeful way.
My ex (infj) was shocked at the way i can just go on standby mode for days, week on end if not stimulated to do anything
Growing up i always fantasised on the teenage experience showed on tv so i couldn't wait to become a teenager and do cool teenager stuff and when i turned 18 or so i looked back and realised i just carried on in the period of my life i wanted to enjoy the most instead of living it
My INTJ brother absolutely can't stand how I slip into complacency.
You can also use Fe inferior to get out of the TI-Si loop, especially if you have very close friends/family that really care about you. If they are aware of your potential and smart/persuasive enough to make you realize, they will be able to make you feel bad and guilty for doing nothing with your life.
trueee!
I recently had a friend do a good job of just saying "well why don't you leave your job?" and I did! Much happier now and getting some shit done.
Now I'm listening to these talks while working out-- been a long time since I did that regularly!
I've had way too much experience with just reading philosophy every day, all day-- it doesn't equal productive growth.
And if I don't?
@@TaxingIsThieving Well...I'm not sure, but my guess is: stay in INTP dreamland, have absolutely no impact on the external word and eventually die without having done anything with your life despite your talent.
But I don’t have anyone with that strength of relationship yet
I don't know if this is going to be true for everyone but, from what I've found, the biggest cause of the TI-SI loop is habit. As you said, doing the same thing every day does this. Sometimes dramatic change is necessary undo or deal with this, but it could be as simple as only changing your routine slightly. For instance: if you wake up and look at social media or news, change that to later in the day, if at all. I find myself changing habits only slightly can help. For example: waking up and looking at news and social media changes to waking up and making breakfast without doing the usual habit, if only for a time. Also, I find that when I stay on my phone or on the internet to long, i fall into this loop, but putting down the phone for just 5 minutes can clear my head. This loop seems to create a fog that makes it hard to think properly and much of it is linked to me using my phone to much. Also, for someone who cannot see like myself, making eye contact would be difficult to impossible for obvious reasons lol.
Hey! Where are the cameras?
I'm in a Ti-Si loop now. Reading the comments I remember how I broke up with one due to my circumstances. I was part of a group in my church and I was part of the leaders, when new young people arrived I thought it was important to welcome them, but nobody did. As a leader I was forced to do it, to smile at them, to ask their name, to shake their hands, it started more from my mind than from my empathy. I felt like an impostor but I endured it because I thought my group was part of something bigger (my function Fe). I think that made me exercise social skills without wanting to, although I know it is not natural, but I remember that I have overcome one of those loop.
I’m in a loop right now where I am constantly oversleeping and not wanting to wake up.
I read somewhere that having a messy environment is actually good for creativity. Of course, you shouldn't live like a feral animal but I don't think you have to be OCD about it either. But definitely make an effort if you have J-Type company coming over (They're going to make you do it anyway).
Experience something you've never experienced before. Like this video (if you haven't seen it already), but could be anything else (within reason of course). That's the easiest way to get out of this loop. It engages Ne and gets you out of it sooner than you can even realize :) Thanks for the video!
Thank you for watching!
This is a great guide for INTPs that are starting to delve more deeply into understanding themselves through the perspective of typology. My own experience is consistent with what you say here, except like any INTP I have to have my own interpretation of my experience with it.
Personally, my Ti-Si loop starts when I can't make reliable predictions about the outcome of a goal or aspiration I am pursuing. Because I can't make predictions, I can't anticipate problems, and fall into the thinking that if I just give it some more time, something will eventually come to me and I can avoid a mistake. When in reality what I should be doing is what Da Vinci suggested, "if you want to get better at one thing, get better at something else." I am using that loosely to mean that the answer hasn't come to me yet because I haven't exposed myself to it; i.e. (in the case of any INTP) Go use your Ne, out in the world, take action and you will stumble on an answer. The great part about taking action is that you continue to get things done, while exposing yourself to new patterns and potential answers. Something that reinforces this for me is that Einstein was supposedly walking through a forest when he had the revelation that led to his theory of general relativity.
Great comment. I like to think of myself as preparing for future bad outcomes that I have NO IDEA what are going to be. So I need to strengthen myself for that today. How do I do that? Not sure. But being in good physical shape from exercising is something that can help, maybe being a little more financially secure. However because I know that I cannot predict future chaos, I choose not to worry about it. I used to worry about losing my job, my house being in bad shape, etc. But now I realize that I will just need to adapt when the situation finally comes up. Thanks for watching!
I really like the way these videos address the practical aspects of living as an INTP as opposed to simply throwing out abstract concepts. I'll also suggest that when the poster says "clean the house" he really means to neaten up. I can't imagine he's dusting and vacuuming every day--that's OCD and another personality type. I have tried and succeeded at most of the suggestions made in this video, and those have made me a happier and more well-rounded individual.
But at 65, I am the perfect example of an INTP who, based on society's standards, has not been successful--at least not financially, especially compared to others in my field. I am deep in debt from credit cards and this is not from extravagance, by any means. I drive a 22-year-old Camry. I wear rags. No jewelry except for a $20 Casio watch (which are excellent, BTW, and much more accurate than fancy ones). I live not beyond my means, but beyond my ambition. If my life was boring, hum-drum, same-old, I could certainly use Ti/Ne to climb out of that rut. I have tried it to mixed levels of success over the years. But life keeps throwing me curve balls, and these are what derail you and end up sucking up all your energy and focus. If you are in a pit to begin with and are trying to climb out and someone keeps pulling you back in, I don't know how you get out of that.
But in spite of all these material problems, have you found solace in some sort of passion or interest?
@@Nesterou I've always had many passions and interests. I was just replying to this particular video. Also, when I wrote this I was in the midst of trying to pack up a three-story house to move as a result of a fire. So I was really in a negative funk.
Also since then I've come to the realization that while these self-improvement videos can shed light on one's personalities shortcomings, we are wired from birth, and trying to fight one's cognitive functions can backfire. Everything's a tradeoff. Si can be holding you back, but with blind Se, how much progress can one really make? And for those who claim they do, I then question whether they were accurately typed to begin with.
You don't get out, you dig deeper.
Also it would excellent if you just left your loan unpaid before dying.
But excellent
@@MrTrashcan1First of all, I hope you’re doing well. I’m only 19 so I might not have the experience to know, but is a “blind” Se really that bad? I know I’ve cursed my seeming general lack of awareness many times even before learning what mbti was, but Ne in tandem with Ti can be a pretty good replacement, can it not? I feel-or more accurately I’m hoping-that maturation of the Si through building effective mental systems for external action is the key to getting what you want out of life as an intp.
I’m trying to focus on fulfilling personal relationships with others, as well as using the prospect of actually achieving personal dreams as a motivator to develop myself.
At any rate, I’m interested to hear your thoughts as an older intp? I don’t mean to offend but your current circumstances sound exactly how i’ve always feared yet expected my life to end up.
@@samtii777 Hi, since originally watching this video when I first got into personality typing, my thinking has changed. I have come to realize that we are born with 4 cognitive functions that are wired in and unchangeable. These functions direct our behavior through inclination. This video starts okay with the idea of Si being comfort, but then just reverts back into stock definitions and accepted mainstream dogma.
So first, there are no shadow functions, hence no blind Se. The INTP has no Se. Child Si has to do with the personal physical domain. Ti-Ne focuses on problem solving in the practical world. So that you'll develop systems to keep your life in order--I'll give you my examples: Foot-shaped shoes; shoelace systems; ergonomic aspects to your automobile; back scratchers in every location. You get the idea.
Se/Ni are the functions responsible for solving the world's problems and for self improvement. People who put out videos like this a) do not understand how cognitive functions work (they are not analytical and understand the world only as the mainstream status quo) and b) are themselves Se types who cannot conceive of the idea that one could not achieve anything he puts his mind to. But true Si types know that it's not possible--at least not for long--because it means fighting one's cognitive functions--which is a losing battle.
You wrote this: "I’m trying to focus on fulfilling personal relationships with others, as well as using the prospect of actually achieving personal dreams as a motivator to develop myself." INTPs will never do either of those things. Personal relationships are not on an INTP's radar--they happen or they don't. INTPs live life one day at a time and struggle just to survive each day. Think of an INTPs life as being pulled by a sled though the woods with branches hitting them in the face. That's what Si is all about.
You are likely an INTJ, which is exactly what this video is all about, even though the poster doesn't know it.
Soo I watched the video, debated with myself for an hour and here I am with what I concluded. I was hesitant about sharing but screw it.
My issue was that I kept on trying to get out of my comfort zone, push myself too much and then lose balance because in my head I truly believe that there can be multiple solutions to any given problem. So, I feel that kinda made me think inwardly that spending time ingesting dopmamine from quick sources was the same as going for it long term by putting in work. So I set about today trying to come up with a truly Absolute answer to things- something I can base my beliefs off as an anchor.
After debating for quite a while through various jumps in logic which I've forgotten, I managed to see the whole thing from an even more objective perspective than before and this is it. People are everchanging. Like, you cannot at all be absolute in any sense whatsoever, and THAT is Absolute (ironically enough). You're always changing. Even the most miniscule things cause a change, and if you realize that you need to go with the flow of change while being aware that you are indeed changing at every point in time it changes everything. That is, Discipline is an Illusion. And you're not really stuck in a loop of Ti-Si. We are constantly changing and while most of us know this (since we may have at some point realized it already [yes, I'm generalizing INTPs :P ]), we need to be aware of it as well by like, TRULY accepting it- not just saying it in our mind multiple times to convince ourselves that we know.
So we're not stuck in a RING of Ti-Si where even after time passes, we find ourselves unchanged. We are instead stuck in a SPRING of Ti-Si, a coil so to speak, and if we do keep on changing and accepting that we are changing, we'll eventually come out of this spring. Ofc how this will change the way I think is something I haven't yet spent enough time formulating, it somehow makes me really excited to think of it.
Dunno if it will make sense since we are after all in different journeys, I hope it helps anyways... ^^
INTPs need days to reflect and be comfortable. But I think when we start doing it too much, that can lead to a feeling of dread that is terrible. Things are always changing (as I discuss in my growth mindset video). These changes can be good or bad depending on how we react. Thank you for the insight!
I was in a Ti-Si loop for long and I was sure that I'm an INFP. After I won this death loop and becom super social and organised I came back to MBTI test and I've got ENFJ. I wasn't sure about it, I thought I'm an INTJ for long, when I was studying MBTI. But now I understood that I'm an INTP. I just didn't like this stereotypes about them, like they're lazy geniuses, they are home guys. I wanted to look in a future more and more, like Ni user, so I didn't like Si. I hated my lazy part, I hated pointless life, so I wanted to be like INTJ. And my friends thought I am. But now I understood that I'm an INTP and this is nice, I can be social, I can be goofy, I can be charismatic, smart, enterprising, original. I have all the tools to be anyone. I like my type and now I know how to become more than just lazy genius. Thank you for this video)
We do not always need teachers. We can be teachers to our self.
Hey there! I just want to say thank you so so much for making this. This was such an eye opening moment for me to have. I’m 17, and for about 2 and a half years, since the start of 2020, I have really been working on creating habits in order to better myself and get out of the Ti-Si loop. I have tried so many different things, and in fact, a huge amount of them worked, but then a shift in my life would occur and I would temporarily abandon them. I recently just finished exams, and going from spending every day obsessively revising, to having nothing to do has really shaken me up, and I haven’t known what to do with myself for about a month now. I typed myself as an INTP when I was 12, but have been unsure ever since, as I grew up and really started to broaden my horizons in life. This time around, I have managed to find so many sources on cognitive functions, and wow, everything makes sense!!! Even more so, it makes sense why others struggle with things that have really helped me- everytime I want to achieve something, I have to create a system of habits in order to achieve it, or else the Si goes wild, and most people that I tell that to just have no clue how or why to go about that. Huh. But yeah, I have been stuck in a massive loop recently, and this has given me a lot of clarity. My least favourite part honestly is how I just completely disregard the Fe, I can’t respond to messages, etc. But I’ll work on it. Thank you so much for the advice about using Ne to get out of the loop. It’s a commmon idea, of course, but you have explained it so much better than any other source I’ve found has. Thank you so much!
Oh wow. The Ti-Si loop is where I am and also what I fear for the rest of my life. I want to work for myself and I was just saying to my partner that if I put in the effort I can do it but I still continue not to. I stopped working out, going out places (covid didn't help) and I struggle to get chores done. This is great advice thanks. Can't wait to see more of your videos :)
Glad it was helpful for you. I was stuck in this rut for years and it wasn't fun. Start doing the small things and you can slowly but surely get out of this and live out you purpose. Thank you for watching! :)
@@intpsurvivalguide2473 I think covid has made it much worse. We are still in lockdown in the UK and it's made me so lazy..
@@FindingYourSerenity The key to this is finding your passion, your purpose. I am INTP and I have loved every second of Lockdown. Because, I've used the time to get clear on my purpose and take steps towards it. Here is a great way to find it. It's called the 7 levels deep method. It is a great tool to find your why. You start out by asking yourself "What do you want to do?" Write that down. Then ask yourself "Why is that important to you?" 7 times answering from the previous statement you made. It is genius. This will be very long so you don't have to read it but here is an example of mine...
1.What do you want to do?
Become a great storyteller and express it through the design and development of successful games. I also want to create a platform for people like me to be able to follow their bliss and make their dreams a reality without the need for ridiculous amounts of money or somebody else's approval.
2. Why is that important to you?
For creative expression and to stop other people from having to go through what I go through. I know I can create great games but I need the money to pay people with skills I do not possess to come together to create these games. I dislike the very concept of money because it creates a barrier to entry on people's desires. I don't believe another person has the right to decide what you can and can't do.
3. Why is that important to you?
Because expressing my creativity is my passion in life. I like to help other people if I can. I want to leave a legacy of great stories I contributed to the world that may inspire others to express their own creativity as Final Fantasy VII did for me. I want to create something new for the world that wasn't here for me when I needed it. I dislike obstacles that limit the freedom to express oneself.
4. Why is that important to you?
Because I only feel free when I am expressing my creativity. Because helping others makes me feel good about myself and helps them feel good about themselves and creates more good in the world. To leave a mark that I was here and did something with my life when I am gone. For someone else to then take what I have done and expand upon it and possibly make it better. Because I believe in the evolution of everything. If I can fill a need that heals a pain point in the world I will do it, because it's only right. Because Freedom is the most important thing to me.
5. Why is that important to you?
Because feeling free is everything to me. Because I want everyone in the world to feel good. To be remembered as a positive change in our world. Because I want to heal the world. Because I believe in right actions. Because freedom is everything to me.
6. Why is that important to you?
Because feeling free makes me happy. Because I want the world to be happy. Because I believe a change is needed in the world. Because if there are more right actions in the world humanity will heal itself. Because I want humanity to be free.
7. Why is that important to you?
Because I like to feel happy. Because if the world is happy there will be no more conflict. Because I want humanity to be happy.
@@truenemesisprime550 Thanks I will do this :)
I'm not an INTP, I'm an INFP. But with the whole looping thing, I can still relate to pretty much EVERYTHING you said about the Si child. Except I go through an Fi-Si loop and it's terrible, I'm still trying to find a way out.
Yes the INFPs I know can really relate with me and I can relate to them. Love INFPs! Thanks for watching
Actually I'm an INTP/INFP, so it makes it worse for me lol
@@IssoufBa42 I don't understand.....you can't be both, you can only be either INTP (Ti dom) or INFP (Fi dom). It's not possible to be both, unless you don't know which is your dominant function.
I feel lucky- my inner mind is so strong and I am able to provide my own entertainment and satisfaction. I think a lot of the extroverts have it harder because if they don't have other people, other external factors available it is much harder to be happy
This is a good video that is right on the money. This video opened my eyes and make a lot of things clear for me. More videos will be appreciated.
This is awesome. Thank you ❤️
Now I wish I could just continue to watch you for a long while, but I guess that’s precisely part of the problem, too much comfort and excessive repetition.
Thanks a lot.
Thanks for the kind words!
Some time ago I started to see a lot of patterns in my life and after some point I understood that I can use my logic to SOLVE EVERYTHING, and since then I started using scientific approach to all aspects of my life.
And for now what I want to say is that haven't lived better anytime before
This is the best way to live as an INTP. Use our gifts instead of focusing on the negative aspects of our personality
I love how practical this advice is. Thanks!
Glad it was helpful. Thanks for watching!
Brilliant, brilliant, brilliant! Explained the essence of my life in 20 minutes!
I love this channel. I can see you have only just begun, but the information is targeted to INTP success and it is going to change my life. I hope that means something to you. It is everything to me. Thank you. Where did you find out about the Ti Hero etc I've never heard of the terminology you are using even though I have heard of MBTI THIS SEEMS MUCH MORE INVOLVED THAN JUST 4 PREFERENCES?
By the way, a great book that gave me my first slight doubt that I might not be an INFP is The Magic Diamond by Dario Nardi. It's an amazing self-development book that marries MBTI with other typing strategies such as Carl Jung's type method that Isabell Myers Briggs made MBTI from and others. Also, have you found that learning Type has helped you socially because in theory if you know every type you will know exactly how they work and be able to work out how to appeal to them? That's the thing I don't understand, if I'm naturally this great problem solver why do I not fix problems quickly and become successful in life? I used to game all the time but I stopped that and have been focusing on writing craft and money-making strategies but I find it hard to force myself to implement what I learn is that what it is? I can FIND solutions I just don't do them? I think this channel can be more than just a survival guide, we've been just surviving. This can be our success guide. You are doing important work.
Thank you for the kind words. I will definitely check out this book when I have time. I think the first step is realizing you have this God-like problem solving ability and get some confidence in your thinking. I talk about in my videos what holds INTPs back and ways you can start to fix them. It is not an overnight fix it is doing the small things everyday to build up to where you want to be.
CS Joseph's channel on TH-cam really helped me learn about MBTI and cognitive functions. Look him up sometime when you get a minute or two
@@intpsurvivalguide2473 I found him after I found you man, good recommendation. Thanks.
After watching many videos on the differences between INFP and INTP I have determined I am actually an INFP that has just learned to structure what I do a bit more than a typical INFP because I was diagnosed with ADD and it made me implement a bit of structure to deal with it and made me think I was an INTP. I would highly recommend anyone reading to be absolutely sure of your type before you go trying to change yourself for the better. Make sure you are doing what your type needs. I wish your channel every success though.
Spot on. I'm working my way out of a LONG loop and can see new techniques to try because of this video. Understanding this about myself, and being able to correlate it to my past behaviors, is validating and empowering. Thank you for this content!
Glad it helped!
Definitely one of my issues. Done some work in cleaning, not nearly enough, Done some in fitness. But now that I know the source, the Si child, should make it easier..., I have been doing DoorDash deliveries for 5 months, so that also 🙂... Thanks again for the encouragement.
Thank you for watching!
Who are you???? Dude, you're like a Shadow Hero, I went to your about page and couldn't find anything, i wanted to follow your social media. Thank you so much for giving this advice!! I love how you logically explain everything!!
hope you will become who want to be in the future!!
Thanks Again!!
When I was stuck in Ti-Si loop , I completely lost my track of time, I was surprised everytime I realize a memory that I've been playing in my mind as if it's in the present happened decades ago
Exactly as the gentlemen said in the other comment. Do the opposite of what your first instinct is. I've just realised this. But it is hard. Sometimes you don't know if you are saying yes to an activity just to escape a more uncomfortable one..😁
One quote on this that's really helped me "fear is not the enemy, it is a compass pointing in the direction you need to go"
Love that quote. That will be a video in the future INTPs and fear
I needed this, thank you! Sometimes I stuck in that loop, then I kick myself out, then something happens like an illness, and I stuck again...
Yes! I hope you have been able to escape this terrible loop
I'm busy crafting a life where I can afford to veg out in Ti Si any time I want. I'm investing aggressively while I am in grad school so that I can build enough passive income to support my lifestyle (which is pretty minimalistic to begin with). I'm using my creative problem solving skills to engineer my environment. It's fun.
Yeah managing finances should always be a bright spot for INTPs. The Ti-Si loop is needed for the INTP to recharge IMO but if you get stuck there you are in trouble.
Child Si holds me back for most of my life (from childhood to adulthood). Ti wanted to escape from it, but Si doesn't want to. maybe that's the Ti-Si loop.
I started exercising around January 2020 and started playing the Piano, in hopes of breaking the Ti-Si. However during the process, I started to be hopeless, That I'm not improving. Then i injured my knees (around march 2020) during exercising and it hurts like hell.
Because of that i stopped exercising. The voice in my head and the injury make me so.
watching this video convinced my Ti, now i just need to convince my Si.
Exercising helped me out too, how are you now?
Great info! No one else on YT is taking about this. Thank you! Just a bit of feedback, please get better audio and maybe throw some light background music in your vids. Keep up the great work in bringing us these deep dives!
I will look into better audio I go get many complaints. Thanks for the recommendation
@@intpsurvivalguide2473 I'd be happy to fast track your gear decisions! Just let me know and I can save you some time. Enjoying the channel so far.
Me: *brushing my teeth*
A part of me: "We can get back in bed after this, right?"
Me: *putting on clothes*
"it's not too late, take them off and get back into bed"
Me: *Heading out the door to go to work*
"Come on, you can still turn around and get in bed" -_-
Fight that inner voice like your life depends on it
@@intpsurvivalguide2473 I appreciate that! I needed to hear that! Thank you!
Sometimes my Si affects my life so much that I wonder if I'm an Si Dom, but that wouldn't explain my actual Se-blindness that causes me to not notice when there's a fire 🤣
omg get out of my head! XD
Currently in the Ti-Si death loop.
I hate how I can do or be anything I want to but only get boosts of action when I have to
There's an entire channel dedicated to helping INTPs? I did not know something like this would exist. This'll help me understand my own functions as an INTP more
Been in the loop since 2019
The kind of sport I feel I need is that one which makes us feel our heart pumping. Maybe not long, but intense.
I am stuck in this loop for about 9 years.. I didn't do what I have to do... Spending my time watching K-dramas and movies... Learning lots of useless and unrelated things that I don't know how to apply in my real life!!
I have lots of interests in many things and I don't know which path I have to take! 😭.
I have studied Architectural Engineering in college but I had no interest in it..
Right now I don't know which career is more suitable for me. So I do nothing and that tearing me down inside..
Right now I hardly getting out from my room. Hate to talk with people even my parents.. I don't want anybody to enter my room but to be honest ( I clean it regularly because I can't stand living in dirty places)..
Thanks for this. My Ti figured i can keep consuming content, but do it mostly when im doing something else. Like exercising, cleaning cooking. Listening to this and exercising.
I feel proud for having Ti hero. The only problem is that there's no free lunch. I have weaknesses and it makes hard to fix them. I struggle a lot with the loop of death and the worst thing is that I already know what I have to do but I lack energy.
But I clean my house, my husband mess it again and again 😂😂😂😂😂
I think I may know how to help you with the energy thing but don't want to say publicly. Contact me via Twitter @TylerGlassburn if you would like.
"if you can't solve it, nobody can solve it" my jaw dropped
My mantra has become “JUST KEEP MOVING”. As long as I’m moving, I’m not trapped. It’s still difficult, but necessary, or I’ll get into my mind and get comfy.
Very helpful in the loop as we speak
I am an infp and along with intps we share Ne extraverted intuition parent and Si introverted sensing child. And that introverted sensing is our Achilles heel. I absolutely want to kick its ass because it stops me from getting much accomplished at all.
I suffer from mild ocd which it is a blessing for me because unlike most intps , my house is always tidy and I enjoy cleaning up a lot
I actually feel the same way since I started cleaning. But its not a bad thing!
Developed ENTJ
Ocd isn’t just cleaning, I think you just like cleaning please don’t tell people you have “mild ocd” and it’s a “blessing” there are people who really suffer from it
@@Uvvibes I know what ocd actually is and I also have some issues with it too like the most annoying one is that when I get to go some where that is close to me like from my bedroom to the kitchen , I have to do it in even number of steps ,both times when I'm going or coming back ;
i know I look like one of those assholes who say they have ocd just because the like their closet to be tidy in this comment but unfortunately for me , I'm not , I have been medically diagnosed with it by a doctor , its not like I took a buzfeed test ;
also I am not offended because i completely understand where you are coming from , I just wanted to say I'm not an asshole .
@@shayan4417 alright I believe you, sorry for assuming but you have to admit in the context of how you said it, why I thought that. I apologize
This guy is the real deal
They see me looping, they hatin, patrolin, they tryna catch me looping' dirty.
😂
I believe that if i get really good at something i can get good at everything because i think evey skill have the same pattern or so ething like this
Hm, I don't think I've figured out a way to convince Ti that the Ti-Si loop is bad for me. I think I've only been able to do it by trying very hard to think like an NTJ, and then memorizing (Si) how NTJs would think, and thus, what they would probably do. But you reminded me to always take things slow with Si, because it's so big on comfort. Thanks!
-edit: my trying to get out of the Ti-Si loop was probably triggered by Fe, because I wanted to become one of the "cool" kids and actually achieve something. Only then did I start trying very hard to think like an NTJ.
I felt the same when I was in a very suffocating environment, I had no desire to even see my Ti-Si loop as a problem because engaging with it was the happiest situation I could put myself in. I’ve only started to truly desire a change after living a genuinely new life with new people for the first time, engaging my Ne in a way I never have before, and then ending up back in my old life ironically due to ending up back in a loop😅. I like your idea of memorizing how an NTJ would act, a very interesting way of using Si for good. I think there’s honestly not a great way to convince your Ti that the loop is bad for you, given that it’s part of the loop😂. Using your Ne, is really the way to get past the loop, it’s the strongest of our external functions. When it’s been stimulated, and then deprived again, you really very viscerally FEEL this dissatisfaction with the Ti-Si loop, in a way that intps don’t typically really feel otherwise.
For me it's other people, i am totally fine with doing anything as long as i do it with somebody else, but as soon as i'm alone i get in the mood of doing "me" stuff.
Good point. I think INTPs enjoy being social but actually getting to that point is the issue
Been in this loop of death since 2018 I don’t know how to get out of it, I just don’t know how it’s like my mind always convinces me to stay in it, or when I think of doing something it takes out the meaning and fun in it
If you manage to break your Ti-Si loop with Ne like me, you learn how to use Ti-Si correctly. For me, my pattern is quite chaotic. So what I do is, every day, I switch between having productive times (doing any type of work, socializing with people etc.) vs. having non-productive times (either intellectual or trash pleasure). This feels like a healthy mental schedule to me. Correct me if you think I am wrong.
Aaah and he says 13:22 : I don't say go to a country you don't know on your own. Welp. That was what I did exactly to break the Ti-Si loop. I admit, changing it way too drastically shakes your life. In my first 4-5 months here, I was even worse than when I was back home mentally. But sometimes, you feel that you need the big change in your life.
Thank you so much! You don’t know how grateful I am!
Love !
I don't believe we can't change. At least I don't believe that something like personality is set in stone, it's fluid. We INTPs don't like things set in stone anyway, that's why we hate schedule. We are more than capable of achieving things. It's not about society told us you can be anything, but more like having a growth mindset that we have room for growth in any areas we desire. But the thing is, something like change can only be done by getting out of your comfort zones, to get new reference points for our database. Which can be hard for us, since we tend to like simulating everything in our mind than to implement it in reality. But we can make a system that only work for us that encourage our growth.
Hey, i'm an INTP. I just enter this video, watched 40 seconds and I'm leaving. I promise to myself that I will come back after my game session. xD
Already add to the Watch Later playlist.
I'm late but here I am. Thank you for the great video, I was really needing this.
Thanks for watching!
Every intp should read, or atleast understand atomic habits rule.
Based take
We have a razors edge of confidence to arrogance is others eyes
Videos like this helps me cope with my suicidal thoughts
As an intp I quitted university of CS and got back to my mom's house just to full into the cycle of waking up, smoking a packet of cigarettes then at the end of the day I smoke allot of weed then I sleep to wake up and repeat the same cycle again
I'm infp i know this pain too bro. Greetings from Poland.
Thank you for watching! Glad to hear I'm reaching other countries as well
@@intpsurvivalguide2473 :)
I really needed this today. Thank you.
Subscribed from the first video .
Thanks ♧
Awesome! Thank you!
Feeding the algorithm good luck everybody!
I get frustrated by my thinking. I feel it's not rigorous enough. Things seem too complicated for my understanding. I feel weak and impatient because of that.
unfortunately, as a jumper, the Ti-Si loop is my default mode of being. it sucks
I really appreciate all the work you do here. It’s really been helpful see my issues. I lost my wife of 12 years due to this loop.
As an intp, i always doubt my intelligent. Sure i am one of the intelligent one, but i extremely slow at understand how things work, and it doesn't include the feeling problem, i way more slower, it takes months to understand how my feeling and what is it to have crush on someone. Sure i see pattern everywhere, i mixture them up to create my own system. But, seeing that nothing seems to be working as expected is a real deal for me to convince that in the essence, my Ti is useless, my Ne is delusional. Thus i hold back to Si where there is certainty. I'm looping for long time. One thing that i know for sure is that i acknowledge myself as low value and not smart individual. 😂 I let it be.
Wow! Love your channel!!
at this point i don't know if i have social anxiety, or i'm just an INTP
Could be both
This is exactly what I need to hear
I feel like shit around my ESTP boss.
3:39 Woah, is he saying Se likes fist fights? My boss was laughing about Chris Rock being whacked and said he deserved it.
This helps. Thank you. 👏🏾
Thanks for the support!
Great video and of much help!!!
I rarely comment underneath videos on TH-cam, but this time i have to! First of all excuse me for my ( probably) wrong English, it isn’t my native language.
I really relate to this video, I recently ( 1 month more or less) discovered all of this mbti stuff and I totally relate to the Intp personality type, I started reading and watching TH-cam videos almost everyday because I felt so understood. You said very true things in your video but I wanna ask you one thing, what would you suggest to me if I tell you that I won’t apply all the tips in this video to improve my life because I’m not interested in living this life ? I truly feel like it’s pointless living this life. I don’t wanna talk about the “sense of life” because the only sense of life is its non-sense, I would rather talk about all the concrete things every human experience in our life. What's the point of living if once we die we will be forgotten?? What’s the point of suffering to improve ourselves? Why Should I spend all my life looking for happiness ? I could list much more stuff supporting my theory. As you could understand, for me living life is pointless, I didn’t want to born and honestly I would die right now if it was for me, but I don’t wanna bring pain to the people that loves me. ( not saying this in a dramatic mood, it’s just what I honestly think)
The question is: what would you suggest to me to start enjoy this crazy bullshit we call life?
Because if I lack of interest and motivation and I don’t wanna live, how could I even try? I simply don’t want to.
I don’t have the energy or the motivation. I think I suffer from depression or I’m in an existential crisis since I was born... ( note that I am 20yrs and I had a difficult childhood, tbh all my life till now was difficult 😅) I started some psychotherapy sessions but I had to stop them because they were too expensive, I felt a bit better for a while and I also started meditating ( nichiren Buddhism) but now I fell again inside this black hole. Hope you could answer me, sorry for the poem I really needed to say all of this stuff to someone who would understand me better than the majority of people. Thanks dear ❤️
Honestly the best thing that I´ve done to stop feeling miserable is find a job and stick to it even if I kind of hate it. Forcing myself to go everyday and going through the day, week, month, year, makes me feel like I´m achieving something. This sense of achievement also kind of feeds my creativity so I started painting and now I do yoga which also helps.
I hope you can find something that can help you.
@@stelleldir I worked the whole summer as bartender, i tought that being employed would give a me a sprint or a boost but nah, nothing. Don’t really know what to do, maybe I’ll see a different therapist and see if there is any kind of chemical imbalance, that’s the only thing that could give any sense to my condition.
@@kristeyaion1866 Well tbh bartender might be too stressful. I'm a chef and sometimes it feels like too much but also kind of helps. Therapy also helped when I was in my early twenties but you not all therapists will be the right fit.
If you ever need someone to talk to, I'm here.
Sounded more like motivation made me really frustrated at the end!!
loved this!
I like your overall message. But... getting out and socializing doesn't at all equate to reaching your potential.
I've traveled to different continents alone, I talk to strangers easily, I spent the last several years going out dancing most nights, I have good eye contact, I've been working out for years.
I don't consider any of it to have increased my potential.
im a 20 yo intp and i need to talk to a more mature intp :(
You some how forget that a lot of problems do have sotutions that cannot be found simply through logic.
thank you!
Is there a Life‘s purpose? Is this life‘s purpose something we merely persuade ourselves exists, In order to not fall into nihilism. Is the purpose we speak of An objective reality or merely subjective and Imagined?
Ohhh boy the Child in my head will definitely take disciplinary action by its Parent
Do INTPs play sports? I used to enjoy watching wrestlin, even tried to do boxing with my friends. I also had another friend who liked this. Are we both INTPs? I'm asking these cuz ENxJs love these. I like helping others but that friend thought it's stupid to help others for free. She didn't play with me and my ENTP friend but she said she liked watching wrestlings and such sports and sometimes even tried at home.
Thanks
for social skills I would recommend youtube channels about picking up girls - e.g. owen cook, alex social etc
Should I jump into that dark well scaring me ? To escape from that loop I am ?
Don't jump until you are ready. But you can start small and slowly bring yourself out. Good luck!
I don’t understand any of this Si Ti Fe stuff. Every time I look for an overview of it there’s some other layer added on to top like drivers and passengers, ages etc.
🙏
Intp here
13:50
i'm in france rn, idk french but i know the basics, i went to the bakery to buy 3 buagets, instead of saying " troi " as i knew it my whole life i said " trés " meaning ( so much ) , " trés buaget :) ", she was confused and said ok " TROI* Buagets " and i realized.
I took the buagets and i forgot the Change :), she had to remind me.
Fk.
i feel like my iq goes down by 50% when in a social situation.