2017 Mitsubishi Mirage SE 5spd in car review. HONEST AND REAL. Part 2 of 3.
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- This part continues where the first left off. The last part will show both mirages and interior etc.
To learn more about the Mirage, visit the forum dedicated to it!
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This is all I need. Don't need a race car it has everything you need, nothing you don't
Well said!
THANK YOU! You are a real REVIEWER! NO BIAS! Good Work!
mobuis juan thanks
The more I read up on this car and see videos on it the more I'm impressed with it.
Thank you for posting your informative video.
Every review of this car says that it's a great car. Insane how low it is priced; definitely picking one up when I can.
You will like it I'm sure. Perfect little around town commuters
here I am in 2022 watching this review and looking at the Mirage, completely 100% agreeing with every point you make, hoping I can find one in the near future reasonably priced.
Yeah I bet they are high priced now days. You could find base models new for 9-10k all day back in 2015-17
Thank you bro. This helps me. Live in singapore, and this car cost $55,000 before insurance. So its the only car i can afford.
Damn, your country is even smaller than our capital city, I wonder where people park.
Huy Vũ Quang multi storey carpark which you have to pay. It sucks i know
I've been using my mirage hb mt for 3 years already. It has been very reliable and efficient. Sure it aint the fastest best handling car out there but its very easy and comfortable to drive. And it is not underpowered either, just adequate for civilized normal driving obviously not for action movie themed driving. It aint loud either, hardly feel the vibrations. The space was optimally used despite its small compact size. Not sure why mainstream media puts this down a bit much when in fact, its an unsung motoring hero that saved us from unnecessary expenses in a fun, safe and comfortable package. Mitsubishi mirage: the car that elite car journalist hate and actual real day to day motorist love.
Definitely not fun, not safe as it lacks the newer safety features that proper vehicles now posses. Can get nicer built sub conpacts from nissan and kia for similar or less pricing with more power and tech.
I use to have a 1996 Geo metro looks very similar to this car. I bought it old and lasted 5 and half years. I loved it. Back then gas was $20-$25 max per fill up
Loving it, hopefully I will get it one soon since I had Mitsubishi montero sport V6 8speed
I love my ‘23 mirage hatch. It’s only a month old & it’s a pleasure to drive it. I’m in the U.S. so it’s a CVT. Great review 😊
Thank you. Enjoy your mirage!
I really love the engine revving sound!
I have 2017 manual and love this car. This car has the most comfortable seats for long drives for such a cheap car. The Lexus I traded in killed my tailbone after 30 minutes and was a maintenance nightmare. I get 43-47 mpg consistently at highway speeds. Best highway average at 75mph driving to New Mexico was 49 mpg. High winds and cold weather really hit the mpg in the high 30s and low 40 mpg. If you drive at 60mph I have averaged over 50 mpg all day long.
One thing I know for sure is the 5 Speed is much smoother at idle than the CVT. My 2015 had a little bit of a rough idle and they smoothed out the idle some and engine refinement for 2017 and added 4 hrsp. I can still feel the idle vibration in the 2017 but it is a 3 cylinder. But like I said the 5 speed eliminates that and is much smoother. My 2015 Mirage ES CVT Hatch got about 3 mpg better than my 2017 Mirage G4 SE gets and Im guess that due to the extra 150 lb weight gain, 15 inch tires vs 14 inch and slightly less aerodynamic on my 2017. In my G4 I usually average about 43-49 mpg per tank and that city and highway combined. But crushing on flat I can top 50 mpg. The funny thing is even running these cars pretty fast you still get good mpg lol. Have really enjoyed your videos and you are on point with everything, thank you!
because the trans is disconnected from the engine in the manual at idle. You could put your auto in neutral to relieve the stress on the engine and have a smoother idle.
I had an auto and yeah it was annoying being stopped at a redlight with the shake. Love my 5 speed now
Thanks for this review. Ill buy this car
I own a 2017 es 5 spd , I do agree I would of liked a 6th gear . And it’s sweet spot for fuel economy is between 40 to 58 . And does the engine sounds more like it’s a v6 then a 3 cylinder ? The “ industry “ doesn’t want people to have a reliable fuel efficient vehicle , just wait when we have another gas crisis, these vehicles will be in demand in my opinion.
jonathan piccone the 3cyl has a sound all its own, a off pitch /off balance growl sort of, sounds cool.
I agree with you. Some dude near me has an older Porsche convertible.
Would have
Either way though I'm considering this car
Want a G4 SE but with a 5 spd.....
I drive the CVT and I get the same mpg as you. As far as I can see we have the same driving style.
The groul from this engine was so beautiful.
They do sound cool
@@pryme2013
Amazing Ambience really, I like Disel engine ambiences because it reminds me of my young ages a bit haha. This engine does have some of that groul in it xd
I am excited to drive this car in the philippines 😍😍😍
How does it compare to the base Hyundai accent and Nissan versa?
I miss my '18 mirage es manual...easily 35 mpg driving to and from work, 10 mile round trip, all four Minnesota seasons.
Roomy for its size, decent ride and power, fantastic gas mileage, purchased in 2021 for $10,999 sticker price - ( paid cash ) Extremely reliable - i sold the car only because i needed the 💰 money more than the car 😢
Now they want like 18k for these.
I have a 2015 model and, from what I can see, the only major differences are superficial. It's still a great little car, and I get fairly good gas mileage for the CVT. I think the "lack of power" is enforced by other drivers and their need to make driving a competition, but would be unnoticeable otherwise.
SophiaPetrillosBuddy I agree that drivers keep wanting more and more power which is unnecessary. They changed a lot though from the 15 to 17. Better suspension, steering improvements, sound, a small bump in power from 74 to 78hp etc. Thanks for watching! Test drive a 17
Golden Girls were the greatest.....(for Sophia petrillo's buddy). And yes, I will go drive a mirage 5 speed G4 when my local dealer gets one in.
I've also heard M/T's get better real world economy. It's substantiated in some testing. In fact, under the new Euro WLTP cycle, the Mirage does better in all four drive cycles with a M/T than CVT. And the Euro M/T is geared slightly taller, which favours hwy economy at the expense of city. I suspect the reason why EPA and NRCAN (here in Canada) testing both favour CVTs comes down to shift procedure with the M/T, which is required to occur at specific shift points for all cars. Whereas, the new WLTP test allows for shifting at different RPMs depending on engine torque, load, and gearing. By design M/Ts and DCTs have less power losses, so it follows they should get better economy, as you suggest 👍
Yes, they do get better real world mileage than the cvt and the gas mileage forums show that as well.
Ive been seeing alot of these here in ontario, canada lately
I just brought a 2017 with the CVT. I can agree that the CVT is a bit jumpy. I wish I could have found a manual but overall they are great car. I hate how people knock the cars. They are not sports cars they are sub compacts. I appreciate your review. I'll need to watch more of your channel.
Thanks. Enjoy the Mirage!
Ikr? People tend to expect too much but when you know what it is and what it’s meant for, it’s actually pretty great! I owned a Golf 1.4 TSI with a 6 sp manual, and I still feel more fun when driving my Mirage lol just took it in for its first service and I can’t be any happier with it
@@blajablaja1 really?
Why?
@@freedomfreedom7200 Well traffic for starters, can't really tell the difference between 150 HP in the Golf and the 73 in my Mirage going 80 kmh tops lol and when I do need to speed up quickly it responds well and feels overall much nimbler to maneuvre in the city since it's smaller. For the rare ocassions I hit the highways I do miss the Golf's torque and 6th gear though
Non-hydraulic? Awesome! You made my mind up. Thanx buddy
Yeah, it's a very old school basic car.
I'm so excited to drive this car soon. In the Philippines, you can see a lot driving this car. I believe this is great for city driving.
They now make the G4 in the Philippines. Thailand is where the Mirage is made as well...
joe b attrage in thailand
is there a proper turbo kit for this car?
do you think the cvt version is going to be good on the highway? reason why i ask i am attempting to help my mom look for a car and she does mostly highway driving. Thanks
Yes it would be great on the highway. It revs much lower on the highway than the manual equipped mirage.
Good little cars. Im in the UK, not many for sale now but good value. Manual is best.
Trading my car for a more conservative gas mileage vehicle. I dont care of the car's look as long it's cheap, starts and runs all the time, and practical, it's a deal! Plus I'm more intrigue on 3 cylinder engine vehicles. Thanks for the reviews!
Now I want one of these. If you watch the European reviews, they are totally fair and don't gripe about the car at all. Americans have been brainwashed into driving monster trucks.
American journalist are frauds just like American main stream media outlets.
What do you say to the dealer to get it for $10,500? Or was there a cashback deal? Might get one of these someday if or rather when my old buick dies.
Adam Kaczor yeah... an SE for $10.5k is way below posted prices.
I'd like to know the same. I can come close to that price with a base model 5 spd.
I am looking into getting a 2019 when newer models come out but my main questions are how is the ride on poor roads that are wavy and potholed. I live in the midwest rural country and farm so I want to know how it does on rough back roads but also how is it on highway going 65-75? And also have you taken any gravel roads with it? I may do a few here and there but nothing wild just a few miles. Thanks ! And just like you i have a access to all sorts of 4wd trucks so needing something for the winter or off-road isn't a problem for me.
Does great over rough roads and potholes. Softly sprung. Made for countries with crap roads so it does well. It does great on the freeway but revs a bit high with the manual past 70mph. I keep it at 65-70. It will do dirt roads but if they have those studder bumps it vibrates the car like crazy
@@pryme2013 this is the kind of advice and info I've needed. No reviewer out there does rural roads. That's good to know. Thanks for the knowledge
I have to admit, that engine sounds real good. A v6 sounds no better.
Yeah the 3cyl has a unique tone
The top ratio with the CVT is a bit taller than the MT. So by a part of your theory, the CVT should do a skootch better under certain highway conditions.
My daughter can’t drive a stick, so I’m going CVT.
Yeah the cvt mY do a tad better on the fwy only due to the fact it revs lower. But during any other driving the manual is king. Either way they are awesome little cars
Mr M - yeah, I think either transmission is okay for me. I’d probably prefer the MT if it was only for me, but anyone can drive the CVT, and that’s my higher weighting for this one little matter.
Same great car otherwise! I really didn’t believe the slagging reviews by experts, and I like your review because your POV seems like mine.
I also have a Honda Fit (a co-leader in “best sub-compact”) and it has a hard time exceeding it’s EPA mileage. But all the reports on the Mirage either easily match EPA mileage or downright smash it. I don’t expect the Mirage to match certain aspects of the Fit. Mirage is cheaper to drive and buy.
hey your in a 5 speed but i see you have cruise control. I did not see that as an option on their website with the manual transmission but only with the cvt, was that an add on option?
Joshua Spett Hi, the 2017 SE with the 5spd had cruise among other options. They dropped the 5spd in the SE for 2018. So dumb I know. So you would need to find a 2017.
I put 89 octane if I want more get going in car just took a trip did 49 mpg one way averaged 44.7 mpg I love my car and I got my 17 with 1300 miles for 4K and 60k warranty....
I have both a manual and CVT. And i actually get better milage on my CVT believe it or not. The CVT idles just as smoothly as the manual. Those who say otherwise clearly aren't maintaining their cars correctly.
Does it tell you when to shift ??
Some cars have a arrow that points up and down.
No
Are fuel economy indicators accurate?
Yeah they are very close most of the time.
"Two for one", sounds like a pizza deal LOL. Thanks for the review 👍
the fuel efficiency is the real winner for this car.
Absolutely. And how easy it is to get around in the smallest of places
i like driving MT... and for me hearing the engine is much better... it helps alot when i drive and its not really loud, its very tolerable.... i dont really look much on the rpm gauge, i just listen to the engine if i need to gear up/down... "drive by feel"... and just ignore those guys who keeps looking for more power from this car.. this isnt a race car.. its for daily use... the engine is enough... and besides what do they expect from a 1.2L 78hp engine, a rocket?? hahaha...
Rey Praning That is well said Rey
got the mirage 5spd m/t awhile ago... :D it aint that loud.. the power is really just enough since is really for commuting, not a racing type... it also runs well... idk why lots of people dont like it... and its really fuel efficient... i just hate the gps though coz it keeps flapping its gums if there's an intersection even though its not a "legit" intersections, more like a private road that is not even used in quite awhile.. hahahaha... but over all its quite good.. it has ABS/EBD so good braking, handling is good enough for me, speed is not a turtle but not a cheetah too, but one thing i notice is the 5th gear, even at 40kph it still has power in it...
Rey Praning Nice!
Im just seeing that gas milage and thinking how you won't have to replace a battery in 7 years!
Wow what a comment 👏 👏
@@Faisal-sf1gh ???
Ohh nice gps what brand is that?
Thanks. Garmin
You don't see a lot of these...ever wondered why ?
cos most cars are manual transmissions
Only positive review of car best known as worst new car you can buy in USA .
Writers have an agenda they don't want you buying a cheap car....have driven the CVT and the 5 spd.....and can't find an SE.with all the options with a 5 spd.
Well, this is a very practical car. It's very reliable, practical and cheap (gas, insurance, etc). Even has some features standard or for cheap that would cost you significantly more in any other car. And it's spacious for such a small car. It might not be as exciting as more expensive cars, but everything else is sufficient. If you want a car for fun... you'll need to look elsewhere. But if you want the freedom of a car with enough space for a few people and some luggage... it doesn't come any cheaper than this. It's easily the most cost-effective car out there.
Yeah i wish this car had a 7spd manual. And how did you get them for 10,500 new??? they're not even base models.
that was in 2017 before insane inflation and it was also at the top mitu dealership in the midwest and we bought two.
I've heard that the US 5 spd version is geared differently than the rest of the world....and is less efficient....but a 6 spd and rear disks would make my run out and buy one.....
It weighs NOTHING. The rear brakes have so little impact.
These are basically free used. You can find them up here with almost no miles for a song.
Yes they don't hold value well but that makes for a great deal in the used market
I just test drove a 2015 Mirage SE, and the road noise at speed was awful. Is the sedan any quieter? I was greatly disappointed. Everything else was impressive.
The 2017+ model is what you need to drive, they changed it. its more quiet and smoother and a small bump in power and amenities.
It's terrible. Here in Wisconsin, driving 75 in cold weather kills the fuel economy. There's no way around it. I can get 50mpg, but I have to drive dangerously slowly.
run a hose from intake to the exhaust so it breaths warm air
Driving cold at fast speed kills mpg regardless, but it would kill a lot more if it wasn't a Mirage.
whats the mpg if ur driving 75 mph on freeway?
I never drive that fast but at 65-70 it still gets 46-48mpg. I'd guess 43ish at 75.
Mr M im planning to get one in the future but couldnt find a 2017 se manual or else ill have to do with the base manual 2019 with no auto climate, anyway will this be a good uber car? tnx for the reply btw
@@d2a1n if you can't find a 17 se, just get the base 19 because you wont be missing much not having the auto climate. I wouldn't care personally if mine had the good ole knob. But a stick was a must have
Why didn't you get the GT model?
still cuttin They do not offer a 5spd in the GT. If they did, I probably would have. A 5spd was a must though so went with the two SE models.
Mr M oh ok.. coz in my country the GT has a 5 speed... though its called mirage GLS
still cuttin I wish we did.
Everything is high priced now. This car has gone up drastically. If your 2017 had low miles you could get what you paid for it. Not kidding. I find myself in need of a car. Do you still feel the same way about your car now? Is your other one a cvt? The manuals are what i prefer but harder to come by used. I can get a cvt with lower miles easier than a manual.
Still a great car?
Both of ours were manual. 2017 was also the last year for manual with the SE trim level. Wish we still had at least one. They were awesome the whole time though
@@pryme2013 good to know. I need a car for around town. Short trips. This specific car seems appropriate. I looked into Nissan but if you dig on the forums you will find that they actually engineer for higher cost repairs and profits. One example i read about very telling. If they didn't do that I'd be considering a versa too. So it looks like the mirage is coming my way. Thanks for the video. It's very helpful. 🙏
@@Phloored thanks and you’re welcome. I think you would find the mirage to be very good for your use.
My Honda fit run 4k at 80 mph!
Maybe less bashing the Mirage CVT7? Its a reliable system, we have two. Otherwise great vid!
Bashing the cvt? Not at all. Glad you like your cars. We just prefer the manual cars, makes better use of the lower power.
@@pryme2013 5speed is the most reliable, always. Living in a big city though with bumper to bumper traffic swayed me to get the CVT version. There's alot of misinformation about CVT systems in general unfortunately. I tell folks, if your going to own a car with a CVT, the Mirage is the one to have. Low curb weight, liw torque, low hp, all contributes to less taxiation on the CVT, increasing longevity. The manual is nice too with the light clutch.
Is this car good in the snow?
@@goldenblooms6672 Yes the 165 65 r14 tires are thin which cuts through snow nicely.
How did you find an SE with a 5 spd?
Bought them both new in 2017. They discontinued the se 5spd after 2017 unfortunately
@@pryme2013 that is too bad.....because i am interested in a G4 SE but with a 5 spd.....
@@adrianotero7963 the G4 was never available as a high option SE with the manual, only the hatch and no none of them are.
@@pryme2013 thank you.....i did not know the hatch SE was available with a manual....
The United States cars are already pre-wired for all of the options that are available. You only need to turn on things like fog lights seat heaters and other options in the car's on-board computer with an ETACS program.. you need to buy a $20 mini VCI adapter on eBay which plugs into the car's OBD2 port, and you just install ETACS on your computer, you have to buy the modifications
How did you get the upgraded shift knob? @mr m
That's stock on our SE's.
I thought the se was only a cvt?
@@jacobepperson4861 not in 2017
I cant find one anywhere in that configuration
@@jacobepperson4861 the 2017 se was available in a manual for only that year. We have two of them.
Sorry dude, you can't beat the cvt in efficiency. As long as you drive carefully in the cvt it will be in the perfect ratio all the time.
All the reviews of this car made is seem so horrible (even worse than my old 4 speed Corolla) but watching this the 55-70 pull was faster than my car is so im not sure why it gets such a bad wrap. I am still a little concerned about handling but thats nothing new springs and sway bars cant fix
The Rusty Scooter I've driven an old old 4spd corolla, this is a bit quicker. It seems to be getting even better as it's broken in more too. Good lil car
Yea I think the only reason my Corolla feels sluggish is because the 4 speed is never in the right gear. ever. So with a 5 speed Mirage im sure it will be better plus 50mpg beats 25 any day
The Rusty Scooter yeah, I've even touched 60mpg in the summer without crazy hypermiling stuff.
I got this but CVT crap!
Still a good car I just prefer manual for small cars like this. There are cvt equipped mirages with 150-170k miles on them but that seems to be when the bearing goes in the cvt input shaft. Those are on delivery vehicles though. Go check out mirage forums
Here in Canada, death penality has been replaced by this car
This is just a basic car.I guess it's blasphemy for this type of car to exist.nowadays.But this car works fine.Everybody doesn't want a high or mid level or a sports or luxury car.
I bought 2014 Mirage
What a stupid purchase of my life, underpower turtle, always Change spark plugs evem after 10k, stull unable to find what the hell is wtong with acceleration hesitation
Sorry to hear yours is having issues. Ours had none of those problems. There is now a mirage on the mirage forum with over 300k miles and just basic maintenance.
@@pryme2013
Do you have any idea how can i rectify it
Appreciate if you help me get me Rid of sluggish issues
Doug DeMuro
Good thing your cell phone is close to your mouth, otherwise we would only here wind, engine and tire noise coming through the cardboard panels
hear
Can't do shit on the highway with this thing. It's fucking dangerous
Haha, thanks honest real world review. It’s Japanese what you expect shames the rest of the world in reliability including the Germans. On a funnier note iam from France , haha you said going round corners....what corners it’s the USA! Lol your cars aren’t built to go round they only go in straight lines. Mustang fever!!
I have g4 2k17 i runned it 180 on NLeX after that ofcourse the cops give me ticket xD you do this video but u cant even do proper gearing tsk. Stop smalling the speed of mirageg4 u didnt know how to use proper gearing dude .. btw sorry im not good in english🤣🤣🤣🤣
Smalling the speed? You mean going slow? Yeah, I'm not trying to race around the roads. I'll leave that to the immature people.