I actually loved black flag when it came out, but nowadays I can’t stand playing it. It feels so boring compared to any of the other games. Especially the ship combat which I feel was better in rogue, if we wanna go there it was probably better in odyssey too. And Edward isn’t that interesting to me. I’m currently getting ready to replay the game again, so if I change my mind I’ll come back to this comment, as of now this is where I stand.
Hot take- while you say people who dislike the RPG games are stuck in the past, I personally didn't enjoy origins AT ALL, but I'm pretty new to the series, I started playing last year and started with Syndicate because my friend got it for me. Also Arno deserves a sequel if not a trilogy.
Try Odyssey. There's nothing wrong with the RPG system itself, but Origins is a pretty weak game. Character is lame, the story is not really about him. You're stuck in doing errands for your wife, which should've been the main character.
I like the idea of this video, no particular idea is wrong. Just a bunch of ppl who love the franchise saying what they like and dislike. Only if ubi would listen
Hot take - i feel ubisoft should dedicate two studios. One for making the old style classic games and one for making the newer, RPG style games. By doing that, i feel they can satisfy both the fanbases 🤙
Even though it would be quite bit nightmarish for the casual fans and also the studios, I 100% agreeing on this take, I hoped that that was were they were going for when I saw Mirage and Code Red being announced
Hot take- Basim is a good villain, if only ubi had given him more screentime and make him a likeable character like they did with Pierre Bellec, his betrayal would have been more significant to us and ac valhalla would have had a good ending
Exactly, all of them deserve their own sequel. Edward particularly would've been cool to see maturing and needing to balance his family life and assassin life. Maybe he would try to keep the assassins a secret from his children and failing near the end, at least with Haytham. Edward is my favorite AC protagonist.
Ignore Connor who had the most heart and intensity out of all of them. Didnt AC fans mature out of that? The themes in that game are more powerful than the others and Connor is the only one whose message truly spoke to everyone regardless of era. The ONLY Assassin that inspired me
@@newhybrid101Connor is just a crybaby who does what he wants without actually thinking it through or maturing. We don't see any character development or wisdom from him in the game. If anything, his father, Hytham is far more interesting and nuanced as a character. The biggest plot twist in the game is when he revealed that he is actually a Templar. The reason it's so shocking is because we always assumed Templars were evil and that Assassins were the good guys. I always feel that AC Rogue came out at the wrong time. If it had come out before AC Black Flag it would have been much more appealing.
Hot take: An AC game set in Brazil would be great. The architecture there is amazing and I'd love to see Parkour and stealth in that setting. I would love to climb that statue of Jesus in Rio. Spain would also work
The best time period for an Assassin's Creed game here in Brazil would have to be the ending of the empire and start of the republic. I mean, the game should happen during the empire and near the end or at the end the republic. There's really interesting stories that could be used during that specific time period.
Hot take I think the rpg games are overhated I personally love the stories, writing, graphics music and open worlds and I think syndicate is overhated as well.
They're definitely overhated because the only common theme I see with players who hate them are: "but the formula from the older games were perfect...why would they change that?" Because the games would get boring extremely fast...look at Halo and Gears of War. Those started out SO strong and now no one really talks about them anymore because they never changed the formula
I wouldn't say the rpg games were overhated. they had great storylines and were incredible in terms of open world exploration unlike previous games. their problem was the parkour system didn't really fit in with what AC games were known for. when I hear Assassin's Creed, I think of a MC climbing up a wall by using things like windows and bricks and small ledges but the rpg games did away with that by allowing players to scale a 90 degree wall without anything to grab onto
@@drifter139Actually for Valhalla and origins, they climb grabbing into small cracks or bricks or other stuff poking out of those walls. If it was perfectly smooth it wouldn’t be climbable. Theres a lot of unclimbable stuff in them. Odyssey as well for the most part excluding the statues.
Hot Take: Assassins creed never really was a stealth game until Unity. 1 was the only game were the “hide in plain sight” mechanic really work. The Ezio trilogy was very hand holding, you have your Right path and if you leave it mission fail. 3, Black Flag und Rogue have more stealth option like the stalker zones but 3 has like the aggressive enemy detaction to this day where if one enemy spot you, you can kiss stealth goodbye. Black Flag and Rogue works most of the time and with Unity Assassins Creed can be name a stealth game. And with the point of “the rpg games are great” they are great. Learn from the past but don't live exclusively in it.
The Ezio trilogy was very half and half for stealth and combat, I believe 2 had more stealth missions since combat wasn’t that great. But in brotherhood a lot of the stealth came from full sync requirements of “do not get detected” if you did those there is a LOT of stealth. But there was also a lot of combat because of the chain killing system they wanted to show off. But no, AC has always been a stealth game. Most of the time in brotherhood and revelations it was just a choice to use stealth or not. Crossbow in both games which was exclusively stealth based, better throwing knives, poison darts, even the hidden gun could be used for stealth. Just because Unity has a crouch button does not mean it was the “first” stealth game.
The only reason I enjoy the older games more then the newer ones, mainly the rpg ones isn't due to nostalgia, it's just I love the parkour systems in the older games, and the fact the rpg games abandon those makes me unable to enjoy it as much as the older ones
I've been playing AC since the first one and Parkour feels exaclty the same. The main difference is the buildings you climb and it has nothing to do with being RPG or not.
@dangelocake2635 that's not true at all. Origins' parkour is vastly different than any previous entry. I haven't played oddesy cuz it isn't even an AC game, like at all. Valhalla's parkour system was god awful and almost non-existent, that was just climbing n jumping, like an idiot. Everything about Valhalla also wasn't an AC game.
@dangelocake2635 the amount of control, physics, and options you have in the newer games in the subject of parkour are much worse, catch ledge slowly being phased out of the games is a great example, if you genuinely don't see how, I recommend watching Whitelights video essay on parkour in AC
@@miket0174 i agree! The small glimpse we got was just enough to make you want more. That’s also an era of history that I’m not terribly familiar with, so learning more about it would be neat.
@evandroescutatrap131 Well considering ww1 and the Russian revolution are basically overlapping I'd say you could make a singular game about that, so maybe a bit before ww1 would be interesting as to see the Tsarist era. For the rest I agree though, it could be really interesting and fascinating, but sadly Ubisoft is Ubisoft
@@miket0174 I think it would be a great moment to make more directly linked games again. Like, making a WWI only, taking it from before the war start and ending a bit before Russian Revolution. Then, the second game is completelly focused on the Russian Revolution. Would be something like the Ezio trilogy in my vision.
Hot Take - an assassins creed game set in Ireland in the 1920s would be incredible. There’s already an Irish assassin from this time period. You could have the British as the templars and the Irish rebels as the assassins. You could have guns but they would be very limited. Similar to the ones from syndicate.
Hot take: any assassin with a likeable personality completely takes me out of the “assassin fantasy”. Connors dry personality is the closest we’ve got to someone who would actually fit that role. In a future game I’d like them to take a more mature last of us style approach to an assassin character, showing the mental toll it takes on them.
I heard Noah Watts (Connor's voice actor) had that same way of thinking, saying that he didn't saw Ezio's personality as one of an assassin saying he was very flamboyant, so he wanted Connor to feel more like Altair's serious personality
I did like ezio but I feel like he ruined everything. Like every other character gets compared to him. Connor wasn’t like him so he was hated back in the day and so everyone has to be a “lighthearted charismatic charmer” then they are “not as good as ezio” like Arno was torn to shreds when unity came out because he was ezio light
Valhalla was my first entry into the rpg AC games, I literally put 80 hours into it before I decided to finally finish the story. Game was so good I even bought the other two rpg AC’s
@yodaddyrc1220 that's not how opinions work at all, they are not "wrong" about how good it was because it was that good to THEM maybe not to you but it was that good to them and they enjoyed it alot.
Hot take: We need more Assassin's Creed games taking place in the Medieval era, because I find it curious how that era was only picked up in AC1, parts of Revelations, and parts of Unity (and side games). I mean AC Unity's intro truly shows that going back to that era of Assassin's Creed is promising, especially for long-time fans of the series Another one would be a more connected Modern Day between the games, for example, I find it frustrating how Juno gradually became built on in Revelations, 3, Black Flag and Rogue, then not Unity, then Syndicate, only for her to die in a comic. One way I could see this put into place is through Assassin's Creed Infinity's hub, with potential cutscenes, or potentially as free playable updates to the past games, still thanks to Infinity, but the playable aspect of it seems very idealistic..
I would love an AC game or even a stand-alone game made by the same world designers taking place in Westeros. In the story, you can play as Aegon the Conqueror and and live his journey conquering Westeros and eventually ascending the Iron throne. You could have dragon riding, stealth combat, political intrigue. The open world could include places like Kings Landing, Winterfell, Old Valeria, The Wall, etc. That’s an absolute dream of mine
A weird idea that I had was to have a game that is set in either WW1 or WW2 as well as having sections that take place in modern day, gameplay would be heavily oriented towards stealth (like Splinter-Cell or Metal Gear), since that is what I kind of miss from the RPG part of the series. Firearms would be present, but would need proper execution, maybe make them limited in ammo and weight, so you can carry a pistol, or carbine, maybe even a bow, but no Machine Guns(maybe make it an unlockable when you beat the game?), all while trying to move undetected from trench to trench, scavenging for ammo and resources, using mud or playing dead to avoid detection.
Altiar is overrated, can’t swim and if any of u bring up he was never hit the grandmaster literally slapped tf outta him, slowest combat, Eagle vision, and wore a bathrobe for a fit, Bayek>Ezio
Hot Take - Black Flag is more responsible than any single AC game for the series turning away from being an assassin game and story set in a time period and genre to a time period and genre game set in the assassin's universe. Black Flag is one of my personal favourite games of all time (a bit of nostalgia bias I admit) but it was a pirate game first and foremost and an assassins creed game second, but it sold well and reviewed spectacularly and even to this day is still regarded as one of the best in the franchise and best pirate game ever. The following games Unity and Syndicate were more AC games first and time period and genre games second but didn't sell nor reviewed as well as Black Flag which caused Ubisoft to panic and since then Ubisoft has been trying to recapture the adoration Black Flag still has which in their mind means leaning more into the time period and genre the game is set in, be it pirate, Viking, mythological Greek, rather than focusing on the assassin side. Again, I love Black Flag but looking back on it now I realise Ubisoft learnt all the wrong things from the game as it so often does.
Hot take Regarding silenced pistols: Desmond actually uses one in AC3 after getting it from Daniel Cross, but there is really no stealth involved with it. You just use it to onetap enemies along the way who are instantly aggressive to you, which is a wasted potential to me. So it would have been nice to have a few more modern missions with Desmond where you actually get a silenced pistol later on and use it for stealth kills from afar. Abstergo goons would also use their pistols more often against you in combat, because it makes no sense they hit you with sticks, at least after Warren orders them to kill you.
Hot take - I don't agree that Bayek should've gotten a trilogy, but I DO think that the next game after Origins should've been set in Rome with Aya as the protagonist. Seeing the absolute scale of it in that one mission at the end of the game was amazing and I'm still disappointed we never got a full game out of it, especially since Aya was originally supposed to be the protagonist of Origins.
Hot Take: (long one here) while i love ezios story and character, and i find ac2 and brotherhoods worlds to look amazing. I personally find the ezio trilogy, in terms of actual openworld/gameplay. To be quite boring. I found the parkour (while prolly best in terms of control) to be boring and the combat to be very mundane (and yes, ac1 is one of my favorite games and first one i ever played) But going from ac1 to ac2 i was almost rather disappointed. Even the missions at points in ac2 to be kind of boring to play. Not to say ac1 was really rinse and repeat and boring. As for revelations, while i love the opening, ending and Altair memories, I find Ezio's story outside of finding the memories of Altair (templar plot, love interest) to be very boring and almost just filter so the game can be a couple hours long and openworld
In my experience I have played both origins and Odyssey and I have had enjoyed both. Keep in mind that my first experience with the franchise was ac origins but recently I started playing all the games from the start and I am currently in brotherhood, and I have to say that I like playing these older games more they just seem more fun to me. Also I'm 13.
Rankings I’ve never played 1 or Valhalla so I’m gonna skip them 1. Unity 2. 3 3. 2 4 Black Flag 5. Brotherhood 6. Origins 7. Syndicate 8. Rouge 9. Mirage 10. Revelations 11. Odyssey
I dislike the rpgs because the parkour is nonexistent, social stealth is gone or doesn’t work, they’re too long for an ac story, too grindy, too bloated, story is mistructured sometimes, I hate the level gating, combat isn’t that interesting with origins maybe as an exception. The fantasy elements and monsters feel way too alien for the franchise that is historical sci-fi with a mostly grounded touch, and the Assassins and Templars are almost completely sidelined. It’s not nostalgia, I haven’t even played the Ezio trilogy or ac1 until years after they came out and those games are all in my top 5 along with black flag.
Yeah, the past is the past right? Why not have an assassin creed without the assassins and just have all out war. No more stealth, all enemys need to be hit 20 times before they die. Or you can stealth but wait you dont have Enough damage to kill it. Grind more come back later. I like RPG but not for assassins creed.
Hot take- the reason the main villian/final targets of the games since origins have felt forgettable is because we never actually meet them during the gameplay as the villian until we actually kill them, unlike cesare or haytham, who we know throughout the whole game. In origins, we dont meet brutus until the very end of the game
i actually liked valhalla more for this, the confession scenes made them very memorable, the firebrand in particular, one of my favorite cutscenes in the game!
Just so you don’t have to Google it, it was kind of like a Japanese Civil War in which forces loyal to emperor overthrew the Shogunate after an unfair treaty with the US forced Japan to open their border. It was fairly small compared to other civil wars of the time.
My hot take is that i actually like Layla and i think that if someone was consistently writing her like Darby, she could have been a great modern day protagonist. Hopefully with infinity they can let us properly play her in the modern day and maybe even see some training from the assassins and flesh out her backstory.
I’ve been playing Fate of Atlantis today and I like that this DLC furthers the modern day, unlike any previous DLC in the series. Seeing the influence the staff has on Layla, the death of Victoria (which is her killing Lucy under Juno’s influence moment) and finally taking Otso Berg out of commission, it’s the final piece of story for Layla in Odyssey.
I agree with Odyssey having a pretty nice story. I was thoroughly invested in it and really considering in what way my choices might affect the story and was always rewarded. Saying that people who live through hard times can't have a sense of humor and more optimistic view on life, is instead what I find a strange conclusion. Especially since you gave Evie and Jacob a pass on this as well, who unprofessionally make jokes as they're slitting people's throats. And it's not like their time period is all sunshine and rainbows either. I actually like the change of pace Odyssey offered through it's lighter and funnier delivery. But that's just me.
@@yodaddyrc1220 A good game to me is a game that's fun and that granted me an experience that stands out from everything else I played in a positive way. That's what Odyssey did for me and many others. You're the only one clueless enough to not know that this is a subjective matter and that even if you were to look at it a bit more objectively, Odyssey released in a very good and complete state.
Hot take: Origins story isn’t that good. I enjoyed Bayek’s character ark but the way that the WHOLE GAME is just “kill all these guys to get to this guy because he killed your son… just kidding now here’s 8 more guys who maybe killed your son… just kidding but now here’s 9 more people who maybe killed him” it got so annoying and it just felt like a wild goose chase 😭
🤣 damn dude its not like that they were after something so bayek 's wife found out its much bigger than theit son or something...haven't played in a while tho i might be making shit up
@@scarfaceReaper yeah but Bayek the whole time thinks he’s killing his sons killer and it just feels like the whole the princess is in another castle crap 😭
Hot Take: Ubisoft needs to just make the Watch Dogs and Assassin's Creed universe officially connected so we can have a full modern day Assassin's creed game with the best of both systems. Like a Watch Dogs: Creed game
i hear you slander the RPG Stealth alot, and i think you are totally wrong. In origins, its very barebones, but features simple tools that feel very Assassin's Creedy - Sleep and posion darts. The stealth is mostly functional, and features 4 types of bows, two of which are great for stealth, and has some cool abilites which aid it too, along with hidden mechanics like darts + fire = huge cloud of the darts effects. In Odyssey, the game has easily got the best detection system and AI Placement and pathing out of any AC Game besides Mirage. some skills are phenomenal in terms of fun and functionality, and the simple moves like bushes and whistles work great. Yeah you cant 1 hit assassinate off the bat, but part of the fun is figuring out how to get to that point, and let me tell you its really not even hard to figure out how to make an assassin build. Its unique, fun, functional, and has the best animations. all things stealth should be. In valhalla, well its hard to defend cuz the detection system is so bad and broken, but the abilites and tool in the game are pretty fun and cool. yes these games dont have social stealth(or useful ss like valhalla), but not every AC needs the exact same stuff to qualify it as good. Id take RPG stealth over AC1,2,3,BF, and rogue stealth anyday, maybe brotherhood too at a stretch. Final point, with the RPG Stealth, you have to really play and spec into it to truly see it, and in that regard i compare it to revelations with its bombs.
This is more of a dream for me but if you don't like it, I guess you could consider it a hot take. 😅 I want an Assassin's Creed game based on the modern day. I know people will not like this because of possible controversy or something but it'll be awesome if done right. I mainly want an Assassin's Creed game based on the future. I know we got something similar in Watch Dogs Legion with the character DLC but I would love for a full on futuristic game with Assassins. Note: the thing that gets me hyped for a futuristic game in the Assassin's Creed world. Is picture a Male assassin for example wearing a nanosuit but an assassin vibe teleporting into a group of enemies and using hidden blades made out of nanotech or something. It looks so damn cool in my head 😅.
Unity being buggy was a blessing in disguise for me. I had pre-ordered both it and Rogue. I played Rogue first, so by the time I got to Unity the worst bugs were fixed. Ubisoft desperately tried to do some damage control, so I ended up getting Far Cry 4 for free while not having a bad time with Unity.
Hot take, this is going to be such an awesome series, I would also like to see ranking videos again, for example favourite synchronisationpoint points or the best dlcs out of the acs
Evie was miles better than jacob. She actually took being an assassin seriously, unlike Jacob, who kinda wrote it off as a joke. Also, i find it kind of funny that her only assassination mission to kill Lucy was the best mission with the best unique kill. Syndicate should have had only one playable protagonist being her.
Hot Take: Its crystal clear from AC 2 that this franchise was always going to be a full RPG. All the elements needed for one and mechanics built there are carried out and expanded upon through the rest of the franchise
I think Assassin creed needs a reboot. A remake of Ac 1 - Ac 3 story so they can go with the original plot line of Desmond being the ultimate Assassin. Yes fans might feel like they wasted time or maybe loss some new players but I believe if done right , Ubisoft could lead the franchise in a great direction again as well as make their stories better while using some parts of the originals flow better
I actualy read assassins creed forsaken and it was so good but it would be so much better if turned into a game or maybe even a tv show adaptation ac hasn't tried shows yet and this could be good with its episodic style
I don’t really agree with the idea that Ezio getting three games makes him overrated. Even his three games in full with all the DLC and tombs and stuff took me less time to complete than Valhalla (and presumably Odyssey if I actually cared enough to finish it). But Ezio has way more personality in just one of his games than Eivor did in over 100 hours of Valhalla.
hot take, AC needs to stop having the fake choice of character gender while also outright stating which is the canon one. I think it'd be a better use of Ubi's time and money to give up one character who is canon. I don't care if I'm playing as a dude or chick, just as long as they are decently written, you can still have all the dialog options you want, just focus on making that one character consistent and well developed. Also, it doesn't feel good getting 80 hours into a game just to be told my character choice isn't canon so giving a set character prevents those issues. I was very happy to see Basim in Mirage with no other options.
He held a greater purpose to the overall narrative of the series. The characters following Ezio held no overall purpose besides existing as a playable character for the game.
Hot take: The reason I don't like the rpg AC games is because of the genres, I don't like RPGs that much and much rather prefer action adventure games with stealth like the older AC games I bought AC Nexus on the Quest 2 and it is such a good game! Specially the Ezio missions
The fact that you're even making videos about my favorite franchise is enough to sate my need for more Assassin's Creed. Your videos are amazing mainly because you don't follow what's popular, nor do I incessantly agree with a lot of your picks, and I think that's what really makes your channel awesome.
Hot take: the RPG games, particularly Origins and Valhalla, aren't bad games, they're just bad AC games. If a studio released AC Valhalla without the AC title, the game would be panned way better.
I do like the RPG games, especially origins, but i do prefer the older games, not because I played them during my childhood but because they are a lot more fun and unique.
I like both modern and old AC. But the RPG games burn me out a lot faster than the classic style of gameplay. But that's probably because I've played a lot of rpgs throughout the years lol
If I remember correctly, AC Unity was planned as a 2016 game, a five year dev cycle from 2011, and then rushed by the publisher. So, judging by this, imagine how underbaked story and gameplay are. It mirrors AC1 (another game rushed 2 years in advance) in so many ways but suffers even more, at least in AC1 the story is so immersive that you can forgive a lot of setbacks.
Hot take: they should resume the Juno plot line and fully flesh out desmonds and Juno's ending. I feel like this has been ignored since ac syndicate even though it wasnt that important in the game, but the latest ac games havent even mentioned them apart from valhalla
This is valid, however Hot take: I just don't see how the RPG games of the Assassin's Creed Franchise really fit within it. Now don't get me wrong I still watched gameplay of it because I was intrigued at least a little in Eivor and Bayek, but regardless it was just not fun to watch or play when I got it myself. The RPG aspect in assassin's creed always felt odd to me, not because of Nostalgia but because Stealth, Exploring, hell even fighting was genuinely boring. Odyssey just has the spear thing so you can just get a dual stealth assassination from a dude who's like 20 meters away, the abilities made it literally just a get out of jail free card. Now moving back, I'm not saying stealth was NON-EXISTENT. but it wasn't enjoyable as it was in Assassin's creed 2, 3, Unity, etc. At least for me whenever I think of an Assassin I think of a stealthy killer. None of the new games have that. Is it Biased? Probably, I mean I find the old games just to be more fun in general than any of the RPG new ones. I like RPG games, but It doesn't fit in Assassin's creeds whole style. The combat, I can say was kinda fun? I didn't enjoy having to use like L2 and R2 for an attack button. I can literally only praise the combat, because that's honestly all it had. It was technically "open" world, but with nothing to do. The same problem Black flag had. It was GREAT, don't get me wrong. But the small islands black flag had were literally useless. The only reason I went there was to catch predators/prey for the cool hunting feeling. With all the RPG game's it has that exact problem, the world is MASSIVE, but it's so big that most of it is inhabited. Most of Odyssey I had to stay afk on my phone because trying to travel on a horse who had honestly in my opinion HORRIBLE AI and controlling was so bad that I genuinely would rather just let it do the auto course that would take like 10 minutes longer. The RPG games feel dry, and the only one you can say that isn't dry is literally just Origins. I feel like there's 3 assassins creed game that complete all 3 pillars, AC 2 having combat, AC Unity having Stealth, and the last being parkour, Needing Unity's Animations while having the functions of literally any AC game like under black flag.
Hot take: AC2 is my least favorite game in the series. The story is not compelling and feels rushed. It feels like 90% of the story was slammed into the last couple hours of the game. Also, it is extremely clunky and janky. The combat is also repetitive and easy.
12:50 I disagree because we keep seeing a rise in games that make enemies bullet sponges with health dictated by level (which often enough scales with the player) instead of leaving smart design and making the player think about how to handle a tough situation, it becomes a "will the player screw up the combat enough times to have to retry?" because of the enemies having ridiculous amounts of health, I'm not up to date, but I think at least one of Origins, Odyssey or Valhalla didn't have a hidden blade, meaning that the entire premise of the game of eliminating threats in a smart manner is gone. I don't mind having an Assassin's Creed game with a protagonist who wants to fight in the open, but then there's the creed with the two rules being about stealth, like mentioned in the point about guns. If you want level ups, just replace them with upgrades, but not every action game needs an experience bar. I actually think that the synchronisation from the first Assassin's Creed was more innovative than the ubiquitous levelling system, although I could be biased because I think I played RPGs before I first played Assassin's Creed. To put it short: RPGfication replaces smart game design with a more artificial difficulty, by making most engagements battles of attrition due to crazy amounts of health enemies have, instead of having to use the tools at your disposal to turn the situation to your favour.
My favorite game of the series STILL is odyssey and ik that bc that is the only one so far that i am willing to replay💀 for the gameplay, story, history and interactive world. It is literally THE BEST one. It IS EVERYTHING YALL SAY Origins is bc it is what Origins tried to be and what Valhalla what should have been. Calling it weak in any area other than not actually being the “beginning of the brotherhood” as marketed just tells me y’all “true AC fans have too much Bias! I am 25 years old. Been a fan of Assassins Creed since the very beginning. So I spent 2020-present beating them all in timeline order to 100% completion- even reading all the shit they give you to read in the game. Yall shit on the wrong shit when it comes to these games man lol
Hot take: I find the Modern day pointless. It slowed down the story too much at times especially in the Desmond days. 3 was the only time modern day felt worth it. Please don’t send the lynch mob my way😬😅
I am a fan of the "old style" AC games, been playing since AC 1. I am not the biggest fan of the newer games, when seeing them as AC games. Personally, if Ubisoft wanted a game to ride the popularity of Sparta & 300 then they should have just done that instead of slapping an AC c9at of paint on Odyssey. I think Odyssey is a beautiful game and I've had loads of fun with it... but iif I want to spen an afternoon playing an AC game, Odyssey isnt the one I boot up. My view is even worse regarding AC Viking. Now while I call Black Flag (tongue in cheek) AC Pirate... I _still_ consider it to be an Assassins Creed game, because we see Kenway's character arc go from pirate looking out for himself and hungering for gold to actually taking on responsibility and caring about other people plus these changes take place _while_ he learns about the *actual* Assassins Creed. Plus, ACBF isnt nearly so fantasy based as the last two big installments. Now again, i like fantasy games... but darn it if I buy a Spider-Man game i expect to play as Spider-Man for *most* of the game... not Wolverine. Both are cool, but if a company wants to sell a Wolverine game, then sell a Wolverine game, dont slap Spider-Man on the cover just because there is an established IP. So one can be nostalgic for the older games AND find the newer games fun... and still hold the position that the newer games are AC in name only. I ould have like Odyssey and Valhalla a heck of a lot more if Ubisoft had stripped out any AC stuff and just made 2 fantasy games where you play as a demi god that doesnt know they are a demi-god and go on a journey through the world to discover your place in it... which lets face it, is _exactly_ what Odyssey and Valhalla do.
The way I see it, Altair is the legend we all aspire to be, while Ezio is like the father figure to me. I relate most to Connor, and to me Connor is fuckin GOATed. While his actions may have been a little shitty, Haytham was right. Shay was right 100%. The lazy story of Rogue could have been fuckin amazing if they gave more than half a shit. Amunet is by far the best girl. The RPG games are not AC games. Maybe you could argue Origins is an AC game, but the other 2 just fuckin AREN'T. Yusuf was the best partner. The parachute was garbage. Hmm, I'm runnin low now... Edit: what are the 3 pillars of AC? Stealth, movement/traversal, historical representation? I think I remember ubisoft saying "fighting, stealth and something else, but is that what you mean? Edit again: "stuck in the past" while playing AC games is just a wild and kinda meta thing to say. Lol
Hot take - Black Flag is one of the worst games in the series for me. Along with the ones that force you to spend much time on the ship. Yes, that's the reason. For me travelling by water in games is always boooring. Doesn't matter if it's swimming or sailing - always boring. Finished BF once and never returned to it Hot take 2 - Syndicate was first AC since Ezio Trilogy that I truly enjoyed. AC3 - boring protagonist and plot, AC4 & Rogue - look at Hot take 1, Unity - boring plot and terrible combat. Sure, Syndicate wasn't perfect. I think it would be better if the antagonist was a historical figure. But still, I did enjoy it
13:10 I agree, but also disagree. I agree that you should go into the RPG games not really expecting old AC. But I also think for AC to succeed, they need to go back to how it was. If they fleshed out the old formula, these games would be GOTY material. The mechanics of the old games were so good, but not fully polished. The old formula is what made assassin's creed, assassin's creed. Now its just genetic, soulless RPG games. They don't feel like AC anymore. Unfortunately, ubi won't listen cause they prefer the quick cash grabs AC is known for now. But at the same time we should be voicing our opinions. Hopefully, maybe, ubi will eventually listen. Probably when the series really stops selling so much.
HOT TAKE: RPG games were definitely a mistake and it's not even about being nostalgic to the past. Even comparing Unity/Syndicate and Origins/Odyssey you can see the downgrade in mechanics. Those games came out in same 4 year time span. There is no parkour in RPG games, there is no social stealth in RPG games. 2 tenants of what makes an AC game an AC game is lost, what you're left with is combat which many games already does better than AsCreed. Some people say gameplay is better due to being more "challenging" but I disagree when I see enemies who can't even react to being in fire. Guards used to abandon their weapons and escape from Ezio/Altair if they killed so many guards back to back. That never happens in RPG creed.
For the first hot take, I originally was under the same mind set of oh Ezios overrated. Because I had played AC3 and loved Conners character MORE after my second play through. Coming out of my play through of brotherhood I’d have to say it’s the game not the character that’s over rated. Ezio may not have the same intimation as Conner but he has the charm and…ability to talk to others that Conner doesn’t. While I’d still say Conner is my preferred assassin I can see why Ezio had that cult following…and I mean CULT following.
I took a huge break from Assassin's creed. Idky. Adulting probably. I have played all of the games since they first came out, and the last ones I bought on release was AC unity and rogue. Next thing I know I missed origins, odyssy and vahalla. I rushed through origins and didn't even finish odyssey. I loved valhalla. I can see how they really aren't assassiny lol. I'm replaying all the games from start to finish right now. I'm on AC3 remastered. AC 1 is great, but needs a remaster and some overhaul. Ac2 was amazing. Brotherhood was boring for me because it was my 6 or 7th time plying it. I wasn't looking forward to revelations. It just isn't one of my favorites. Still ok. Ac3. I didn't remember alot about this game since I haven't played it since it came out. I'm currently playing it now. I can't wait to replay black flag and rogue again. I'm excited to replay origins and syndicate as well. I'm not really looking forward to replaying odyssey again, and I'm definitely not replaying vahalla. I loved the game but I basically 95 percented the game and I don't want to go through all that again so soon.
Ezio just plain overshadows. Connor got a weaker reception because players were expecting another Ezio, and Edward and Arno both reflected Ezio in some way (Arno far more overtly). Run a poll about Assassin’s Creed protagonists, put Ezio as an option and more people will vote for him no matter the question.
my hot take is syndicate is my personal favorite and nothing will make that change, this game has a special place in my heart and I love to appreciate everything I love in this game even recognizing its flaws and things I would've done differently
Unity and Rogue were both ruined by that stupid release deadline "oh they have to release on the same day, hurr durr" Unity needed more than just bug fixes, though. You can clearly see that huge chunks of story were cut out. I suppose the same could be said for Rogue. It's a shame, because Unity had the potential to be a masterpiece. Ubisoft Montreal's magnum opus.... But they rushed it. There is no game in history with more wasted potential than Unity.
Valhalla is just everything against what the original games were.Blue from OSP discussed this, and I agree 100% with it. All other games, I see they're ok. Everyone has their preferences. But Valhalla is just plain insult, where the mythological parts in Origins and Odyssey are cool and give an authentic experience as to what those people believed in, Valhalla just makes fun of medeival Scandinavian culture by appealing to the misappropriated image in pop culture.
Black Flag sucks. Edward sucks. Ezio is in fact overrated (i say this as a slut for Ezio) Valhalla is good. Odyssey was good. Origins was not. Unity sucks. Arno is abysmal as a character and his parkour literally just feels like Syndicate. Rogue was bad af it was just kinda cool to be a templar but AC3 also does this mucy better.
Hot Take: Odyssey's optimistic tone was the right choice. Assassin's Creed has always been more enjoyable for me when the games chose a more upbeat tone. Whether it was Edward's cockiness and wit, the Frye's bantering, Kassandra's optimistic outlook, or Ezio's determination to help and succeed, Assassin's Creed was always more fun when the characters were having fun and hopeful. Valhalla was the antithesis of that for me, and it’s so far been the only game I haven't enjoyed. Eivor never felt like she had any fun, or sense of hope. Just the opposite, she was entirely focused on preventing a prophecised future, and it was that tone that killed the game more than anything else.
Ubisoft simplifying the parkour was the best decision. Unity and below (by release) you have to hold like 4 buttons just to run- it should not be that deep when we are free-running as a means to shortcut. The parkour puzzles and missions in the early games are also clunky ash even when you are doing it right. It’s been clunky in all the games until they just decided to scrap it with origins. But at least to gave you better tools in Unity & Syndicate to make it less broken.
Hot take: Ezio trilogy is vastly overrated, ac1,ac2 and brotherhood are the bottom 3 games in the series. Ac2 and ac1 are very janky and unrefined for this day and age. Except the freerunning and story, nothing is over average. Ac brotherhood is more refined but lacks variety, and has lackluster story compared to the other games. Revelations is the best out of the trilogy, but its still not top 5.
Here's a post: Were we not meant to live in peace then? Is that it? Are we born to argue? To fight? So many voices, each demanding something else. (AC3 Monolouge) I do think this is what every Assassin has had to have thought at some point. That it's just endless fighting and for what? Get rid of the Templars and what do you replace it with then right? (My take)
Hot take: Odyssey is the worst part of the RPG trilogy. Kassandra's voice acting is terrible nad her character is boring. The quests are incredibly repetitive and the world offers too few types of side activities. Steal, kill - basically nothing else. The game looks unaesthetic and ugly. A lot of the dialogue options go nowhere and are there only to make the dialogue seem branching, even though it isn't at all.
No matter how many assassins creed games gets released, black flag will always have a special place in my heart
Same
Black flag sucks personally. Rogues better
This game was like the new gen of the old gen, so beautiful and nice to play
me but with Origins
I actually loved black flag when it came out, but nowadays I can’t stand playing it. It feels so boring compared to any of the other games. Especially the ship combat which I feel was better in rogue, if we wanna go there it was probably better in odyssey too. And Edward isn’t that interesting to me. I’m currently getting ready to replay the game again, so if I change my mind I’ll come back to this comment, as of now this is where I stand.
Hot take- while you say people who dislike the RPG games are stuck in the past, I personally didn't enjoy origins AT ALL, but I'm pretty new to the series, I started playing last year and started with Syndicate because my friend got it for me. Also Arno deserves a sequel if not a trilogy.
Try Odyssey. There's nothing wrong with the RPG system itself, but Origins is a pretty weak game. Character is lame, the story is not really about him. You're stuck in doing errands for your wife, which should've been the main character.
@@dangelocake2635 I disliked oddyssey even more...
I like the idea of this video, no particular idea is wrong. Just a bunch of ppl who love the franchise saying what they like and dislike. Only if ubi would listen
hot take-Assasins creed odyssey is just a spinoff of assassins creed. If you remove the modern day and someone else released no one would know.
Hot take - i feel ubisoft should dedicate two studios. One for making the old style classic games and one for making the newer, RPG style games. By doing that, i feel they can satisfy both the fanbases 🤙
damn right
damn right 2
This is the best one yet
Even though it would be quite bit nightmarish for the casual fans and also the studios, I 100% agreeing on this take, I hoped that that was were they were going for when I saw Mirage and Code Red being announced
@@jackarcadev2421 but sadly red is the last rpg....i bet after they go to stealth again the 2nd game will be a loss
Hot take- Basim is a good villain, if only ubi had given him more screentime and make him a likeable character like they did with Pierre Bellec, his betrayal would have been more significant to us and ac valhalla would have had a good ending
I don't consider him a villain at all. He is an anti hero. He has very justified motives for his actions.
the best villain in general is that incest bastard
Nah, Basim is cool. Top 5 in opinion
@@Batman_83same pfp lol
@@shinobi3383 Another Assassin!?
I would rather have more than 1 game with Edward, Shay, and Arno than have more than 1 game with Ezio.
Exactly, all of them deserve their own sequel. Edward particularly would've been cool to see maturing and needing to balance his family life and assassin life. Maybe he would try to keep the assassins a secret from his children and failing near the end, at least with Haytham. Edward is my favorite AC protagonist.
Ignore Connor who had the most heart and intensity out of all of them.
Didnt AC fans mature out of that?
The themes in that game are more powerful than the others and Connor is the only one whose message truly spoke to everyone regardless of era.
The ONLY Assassin that inspired me
@@newhybrid101no he didn't. He had as much heart as a board.
@@newhybrid101Connor is just a crybaby who does what he wants without actually thinking it through or maturing.
We don't see any character development or wisdom from him in the game.
If anything, his father, Hytham is far more interesting and nuanced as a character.
The biggest plot twist in the game is when he revealed that he is actually a Templar. The reason it's so shocking is because we always assumed Templars were evil and that Assassins were the good guys.
I always feel that AC Rogue came out at the wrong time. If it had come out before AC Black Flag it would have been much more appealing.
Edward needs another game cause now he is the same as kassandra and eivor. Not an assassins. He is just a pirate nothing else.
Man, this is the chilliest roast video ever, I should make one myself😂
Hot take: An AC game set in Brazil would be great. The architecture there is amazing and I'd love to see Parkour and stealth in that setting. I would love to climb that statue of Jesus in Rio.
Spain would also work
I agree
What brazil though, modernish brazil with shanty towns or the earlier times, with conquistadors
@@SniperSpy10 I’m guessing late 18th century.
@@SniperSpy10why not both
The best time period for an Assassin's Creed game here in Brazil would have to be the ending of the empire and start of the republic. I mean, the game should happen during the empire and near the end or at the end the republic. There's really interesting stories that could be used during that specific time period.
Hot take I think the rpg games are overhated I personally love the stories, writing, graphics music and open worlds and I think syndicate is overhated as well.
They're definitely overhated because the only common theme I see with players who hate them are: "but the formula from the older games were perfect...why would they change that?" Because the games would get boring extremely fast...look at Halo and Gears of War. Those started out SO strong and now no one really talks about them anymore because they never changed the formula
@@JazzySaturdays I love gears of War campaigns and gameplay
@@JazzySaturdays well they did complain about AC being boring so they did the kenway and modern to rpg and they were not bad tho
I wouldn't say the rpg games were overhated. they had great storylines and were incredible in terms of open world exploration unlike previous games. their problem was the parkour system didn't really fit in with what AC games were known for. when I hear Assassin's Creed, I think of a MC climbing up a wall by using things like windows and bricks and small ledges but the rpg games did away with that by allowing players to scale a 90 degree wall without anything to grab onto
@@drifter139Actually for Valhalla and origins, they climb grabbing into small cracks or bricks or other stuff poking out of those walls. If it was perfectly smooth it wouldn’t be climbable. Theres a lot of unclimbable stuff in them. Odyssey as well for the most part excluding the statues.
Hot Take: Assassins creed never really was a stealth game until Unity. 1 was the only game were the “hide in plain sight” mechanic really work. The Ezio trilogy was very hand holding, you have your Right path and if you leave it mission fail. 3, Black Flag und Rogue have more stealth option like the stalker zones but 3 has like the aggressive enemy detaction to this day where if one enemy spot you, you can kiss stealth goodbye. Black Flag and Rogue works most of the time and with Unity Assassins Creed can be name a stealth game.
And with the point of “the rpg games are great” they are great. Learn from the past but don't live exclusively in it.
nah you're skewing the idea of stealth for your take, adding crouch and couple more stalker zones like bushes would do it.
I absolutely agree, but Black Flag had decent stealh.
The Ezio trilogy was very half and half for stealth and combat, I believe 2 had more stealth missions since combat wasn’t that great. But in brotherhood a lot of the stealth came from full sync requirements of “do not get detected” if you did those there is a LOT of stealth. But there was also a lot of combat because of the chain killing system they wanted to show off. But no, AC has always been a stealth game. Most of the time in brotherhood and revelations it was just a choice to use stealth or not. Crossbow in both games which was exclusively stealth based, better throwing knives, poison darts, even the hidden gun could be used for stealth. Just because Unity has a crouch button does not mean it was the “first” stealth game.
What made the rpgs great?
@@yodaddyrc1220 Everything it did to position itself an rpg i guess.
The only reason I enjoy the older games more then the newer ones, mainly the rpg ones isn't due to nostalgia, it's just I love the parkour systems in the older games, and the fact the rpg games abandon those makes me unable to enjoy it as much as the older ones
The rpgs just don't feel like a natural evolution of the franchise.
I've been playing AC since the first one and Parkour feels exaclty the same. The main difference is the buildings you climb and it has nothing to do with being RPG or not.
@dangelocake2635 that's not true at all. Origins' parkour is vastly different than any previous entry. I haven't played oddesy cuz it isn't even an AC game, like at all. Valhalla's parkour system was god awful and almost non-existent, that was just climbing n jumping, like an idiot. Everything about Valhalla also wasn't an AC game.
@@dangelocake2635You clearly don’t know jack shit.
@dangelocake2635 the amount of control, physics, and options you have in the newer games in the subject of parkour are much worse, catch ledge slowly being phased out of the games is a great example, if you genuinely don't see how, I recommend watching Whitelights video essay on parkour in AC
An AC game set in WW1 would be elite. We got a glimpse of that as a DLC.
I'd love one set in the Russian revolution, I know we got one but I mean a fully fleshed out one
@@miket0174 i agree! The small glimpse we got was just enough to make you want more. That’s also an era of history that I’m not terribly familiar with, so learning more about it would be neat.
@@miket0174 Imagine that trilogy: WWI, Russian Revolution, WWII.
This would be just too good for Ubisoft to do lmao
@evandroescutatrap131 Well considering ww1 and the Russian revolution are basically overlapping I'd say you could make a singular game about that, so maybe a bit before ww1 would be interesting as to see the Tsarist era. For the rest I agree though, it could be really interesting and fascinating, but sadly Ubisoft is Ubisoft
@@miket0174 I think it would be a great moment to make more directly linked games again. Like, making a WWI only, taking it from before the war start and ending a bit before Russian Revolution. Then, the second game is completelly focused on the Russian Revolution.
Would be something like the Ezio trilogy in my vision.
Hot Take - an assassins creed game set in Ireland in the 1920s would be incredible. There’s already an Irish assassin from this time period. You could have the British as the templars and the Irish rebels as the assassins. You could have guns but they would be very limited. Similar to the ones from syndicate.
Hot take: any assassin with a likeable personality completely takes me out of the “assassin fantasy”. Connors dry personality is the closest we’ve got to someone who would actually fit that role. In a future game I’d like them to take a more mature last of us style approach to an assassin character, showing the mental toll it takes on them.
I heard Noah Watts (Connor's voice actor) had that same way of thinking, saying that he didn't saw Ezio's personality as one of an assassin saying he was very flamboyant, so he wanted Connor to feel more like Altair's serious personality
I did like ezio but I feel like he ruined everything. Like every other character gets compared to him. Connor wasn’t like him so he was hated back in the day and so everyone has to be a “lighthearted charismatic charmer” then they are “not as good as ezio” like Arno was torn to shreds when unity came out because he was ezio light
Hot take
A game taking place during the Aztecs would be awesome
AC brotherhood has some of the best side missions in ac history
Valhalla was my first entry into the rpg AC games, I literally put 80 hours into it before I decided to finally finish the story. Game was so good I even bought the other two rpg AC’s
I don’t think it’s that good
@@yodaddyrc1220 Yes they are
@@Bobbaloomis nah, you’re wrong
@@yodaddyrc1220weee weee
@yodaddyrc1220 that's not how opinions work at all, they are not "wrong" about how good it was because it was that good to THEM maybe not to you but it was that good to them and they enjoyed it alot.
Hot take: We need more Assassin's Creed games taking place in the Medieval era, because I find it curious how that era was only picked up in AC1, parts of Revelations, and parts of Unity (and side games). I mean AC Unity's intro truly shows that going back to that era of Assassin's Creed is promising, especially for long-time fans of the series
Another one would be a more connected Modern Day between the games, for example, I find it frustrating how Juno gradually became built on in Revelations, 3, Black Flag and Rogue, then not Unity, then Syndicate, only for her to die in a comic. One way I could see this put into place is through Assassin's Creed Infinity's hub, with potential cutscenes, or potentially as free playable updates to the past games, still thanks to Infinity, but the playable aspect of it seems very idealistic..
Agree
15:32 bro roasted me and Arno in 5 seconds😂
I would love an AC game or even a stand-alone game made by the same world designers taking place in Westeros. In the story, you can play as Aegon the Conqueror and and live his journey conquering Westeros and eventually ascending the Iron throne. You could have dragon riding, stealth combat, political intrigue. The open world could include places like Kings Landing, Winterfell, Old Valeria, The Wall, etc. That’s an absolute dream of mine
A weird idea that I had was to have a game that is set in either WW1 or WW2 as well as having sections that take place in modern day, gameplay would be heavily oriented towards stealth (like Splinter-Cell or Metal Gear), since that is what I kind of miss from the RPG part of the series. Firearms would be present, but would need proper execution, maybe make them limited in ammo and weight, so you can carry a pistol, or carbine, maybe even a bow, but no Machine Guns(maybe make it an unlockable when you beat the game?), all while trying to move undetected from trench to trench, scavenging for ammo and resources, using mud or playing dead to avoid detection.
Altiar is overrated, can’t swim and if any of u bring up he was never hit the grandmaster literally slapped tf outta him, slowest combat, Eagle vision, and wore a bathrobe for a fit, Bayek>Ezio
Hot Take - Black Flag is more responsible than any single AC game for the series turning away from being an assassin game and story set in a time period and genre to a time period and genre game set in the assassin's universe. Black Flag is one of my personal favourite games of all time (a bit of nostalgia bias I admit) but it was a pirate game first and foremost and an assassins creed game second, but it sold well and reviewed spectacularly and even to this day is still regarded as one of the best in the franchise and best pirate game ever. The following games Unity and Syndicate were more AC games first and time period and genre games second but didn't sell nor reviewed as well as Black Flag which caused Ubisoft to panic and since then Ubisoft has been trying to recapture the adoration Black Flag still has which in their mind means leaning more into the time period and genre the game is set in, be it pirate, Viking, mythological Greek, rather than focusing on the assassin side. Again, I love Black Flag but looking back on it now I realise Ubisoft learnt all the wrong things from the game as it so often does.
Hot take
Regarding silenced pistols: Desmond actually uses one in AC3 after getting it from Daniel Cross, but there is really no stealth involved with it. You just use it to onetap enemies along the way who are instantly aggressive to you, which is a wasted potential to me.
So it would have been nice to have a few more modern missions with Desmond where you actually get a silenced pistol later on and use it for stealth kills from afar. Abstergo goons would also use their pistols more often against you in combat, because it makes no sense they hit you with sticks, at least after Warren orders them to kill you.
Splinter Cell Conviction is a good example how guns could work in an AC game.
Hot take - I don't agree that Bayek should've gotten a trilogy, but I DO think that the next game after Origins should've been set in Rome with Aya as the protagonist. Seeing the absolute scale of it in that one mission at the end of the game was amazing and I'm still disappointed we never got a full game out of it, especially since Aya was originally supposed to be the protagonist of Origins.
Hot Take: (long one here)
while i love ezios story and character, and i find ac2 and brotherhoods worlds to look amazing. I personally find the ezio trilogy, in terms of actual openworld/gameplay. To be quite boring. I found the parkour (while prolly best in terms of control) to be boring and the combat to be very mundane (and yes, ac1 is one of my favorite games and first one i ever played)
But going from ac1 to ac2 i was almost rather disappointed. Even the missions at points in ac2 to be kind of boring to play. Not to say ac1 was really rinse and repeat and boring.
As for revelations, while i love the opening, ending and Altair memories, I find Ezio's story outside of finding the memories of Altair (templar plot, love interest) to be very boring and almost just filter so the game can be a couple hours long and openworld
In my experience I have played both origins and Odyssey and I have had enjoyed both. Keep in mind that my first experience with the franchise was ac origins but recently I started playing all the games from the start and I am currently in brotherhood, and I have to say that I like playing these older games more they just seem more fun to me. Also I'm 13.
Ezio is a good character, but the Kenyans are best ngl.
Kenways*
Kenyans 😭
Autocorrect is a b!tch
Love your vids, keep making amazing content!
Appreciate that !!@@dsward88
Hot take-I think game developers should alternate between releasing an RPG one year and then a more assassin-focused game the next year.
Rankings
I’ve never played 1 or Valhalla so I’m gonna skip them
1. Unity
2. 3
3. 2
4 Black Flag
5. Brotherhood
6. Origins
7. Syndicate
8. Rouge
9. Mirage
10. Revelations
11. Odyssey
I dislike the rpgs because the parkour is nonexistent, social stealth is gone or doesn’t work, they’re too long for an ac story, too grindy, too bloated, story is mistructured sometimes, I hate the level gating, combat isn’t that interesting with origins maybe as an exception. The fantasy elements and monsters feel way too alien for the franchise that is historical sci-fi with a mostly grounded touch, and the Assassins and Templars are almost completely sidelined. It’s not nostalgia, I haven’t even played the Ezio trilogy or ac1 until years after they came out and those games are all in my top 5 along with black flag.
Yeah, the past is the past right? Why not have an assassin creed without the assassins and just have all out war. No more stealth, all enemys need to be hit 20 times before they die. Or you can stealth but wait you dont have Enough damage to kill it. Grind more come back later. I like RPG but not for assassins creed.
Assassin's Creed 2 is the worst game in the Ezio trilogy
by what standard?
Hot take. The Legacy of the First Blade DLC for odyssey has a better story and is all around better than the main story of odyssey
Books, comics and databases info just ruin future stories like Edward death was already written before the release of ac4
Hot take- the reason the main villian/final targets of the games since origins have felt forgettable is because we never actually meet them during the gameplay as the villian until we actually kill them, unlike cesare or haytham, who we know throughout the whole game. In origins, we dont meet brutus until the very end of the game
i actually liked valhalla more for this, the confession scenes made them very memorable, the firebrand in particular, one of my favorite cutscenes in the game!
Hot take ac unity is the best ac game as there is just sooo much to do after and u can just get lost in your own mind on how good the parkor is
I’m not sure how much you know about the Boshin War, but I think that it would be a great alternate setting for Codename Red or a future AC game.
Just so you don’t have to Google it, it was kind of like a Japanese Civil War in which forces loyal to emperor overthrew the Shogunate after an unfair treaty with the US forced Japan to open their border. It was fairly small compared to other civil wars of the time.
Hot take assassin creed will be wasted if it’s only one genre
My hot take is that i actually like Layla and i think that if someone was consistently writing her like Darby, she could have been a great modern day protagonist. Hopefully with infinity they can let us properly play her in the modern day and maybe even see some training from the assassins and flesh out her backstory.
I’ve been playing Fate of Atlantis today and I like that this DLC furthers the modern day, unlike any previous DLC in the series. Seeing the influence the staff has on Layla, the death of Victoria (which is her killing Lucy under Juno’s influence moment) and finally taking Otso Berg out of commission, it’s the final piece of story for Layla in Odyssey.
Hot Take:
The movement, combat, pacing and story is 10x better in Revelations than AC2 and Brotherhood
Ezio overrated?? He was the most charming! Love that guy :) Connor was a close second though
I agree with Odyssey having a pretty nice story. I was thoroughly invested in it and really considering in what way my choices might affect the story and was always rewarded. Saying that people who live through hard times can't have a sense of humor and more optimistic view on life, is instead what I find a strange conclusion. Especially since you gave Evie and Jacob a pass on this as well, who unprofessionally make jokes as they're slitting people's throats. And it's not like their time period is all sunshine and rainbows either. I actually like the change of pace Odyssey offered through it's lighter and funnier delivery. But that's just me.
Odyssey is in fact one of the best games since Ezio Trilogy. I have the same hot take and wrote almost the same thing as that guy.
@@dangelocake2635 You’re clueless then and u have no idea what a good game even is.
@@yodaddyrc1220 A good game to me is a game that's fun and that granted me an experience that stands out from everything else I played in a positive way. That's what Odyssey did for me and many others. You're the only one clueless enough to not know that this is a subjective matter and that even if you were to look at it a bit more objectively, Odyssey released in a very good and complete state.
Hot take: Origins story isn’t that good. I enjoyed Bayek’s character ark but the way that the WHOLE GAME is just “kill all these guys to get to this guy because he killed your son… just kidding now here’s 8 more guys who maybe killed your son… just kidding but now here’s 9 more people who maybe killed him” it got so annoying and it just felt like a wild goose chase 😭
🤣 damn dude its not like that they were after something so bayek 's wife found out its much bigger than theit son or something...haven't played in a while tho i might be making shit up
@@scarfaceReaper yeah but Bayek the whole time thinks he’s killing his sons killer and it just feels like the whole the princess is in another castle crap 😭
i think AC origins wasnt about bayek, nor hes son.. i think it was about amunet..
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Hot Take: Ubisoft needs to just make the Watch Dogs and Assassin's Creed universe officially connected so we can have a full modern day Assassin's creed game with the best of both systems. Like a Watch Dogs: Creed game
its not a hot take, they already are connected since origins i believe
@mikaeldarth8967 The director I believe has said they aren't and that was nothing but an easter egg
The Kenway/Abstergo Entertainment Saga (AC3-ACS) is better than the Ezio/Desmond Saga (AC1-AC3).
i hear you slander the RPG Stealth alot, and i think you are totally wrong.
In origins, its very barebones, but features simple tools that feel very Assassin's Creedy - Sleep and posion darts. The stealth is mostly functional, and features 4 types of bows, two of which are great for stealth, and has some cool abilites which aid it too, along with hidden mechanics like darts + fire = huge cloud of the darts effects.
In Odyssey, the game has easily got the best detection system and AI Placement and pathing out of any AC Game besides Mirage. some skills are phenomenal in terms of fun and functionality, and the simple moves like bushes and whistles work great. Yeah you cant 1 hit assassinate off the bat, but part of the fun is figuring out how to get to that point, and let me tell you its really not even hard to figure out how to make an assassin build. Its unique, fun, functional, and has the best animations. all things stealth should be.
In valhalla, well its hard to defend cuz the detection system is so bad and broken, but the abilites and tool in the game are pretty fun and cool.
yes these games dont have social stealth(or useful ss like valhalla), but not every AC needs the exact same stuff to qualify it as good. Id take RPG stealth over AC1,2,3,BF, and rogue stealth anyday, maybe brotherhood too at a stretch. Final point, with the RPG Stealth, you have to really play and spec into it to truly see it, and in that regard i compare it to revelations with its bombs.
Hottake: Edward Kenway has the best arc and redemption. From a man who only seeks glory and wealth to someone with morals and honour.
The odyssey story take was more contrarian than a hot take lol, had to be bait
There are hottakes and there is is hot garbage
This is more of a dream for me but if you don't like it, I guess you could consider it a hot take. 😅
I want an Assassin's Creed game based on the modern day. I know people will not like this because of possible controversy or something but it'll be awesome if done right.
I mainly want an Assassin's Creed game based on the future. I know we got something similar in Watch Dogs Legion with the character DLC but I would love for a full on futuristic game with Assassins.
Note: the thing that gets me hyped for a futuristic game in the Assassin's Creed world. Is picture a Male assassin for example wearing a nanosuit but an assassin vibe teleporting into a group of enemies and using hidden blades made out of nanotech or something. It looks so damn cool in my head 😅.
I’ll repeat my comment from the post. Rogues naval combat is better than black flag. (Pls don’t kill me)
yes, rapid fire puckle gun!
I really like these chill videos, the one you did with your girlfriend for 40 minutes was great to sit back and listen to while playing a game.
uhhhhhhh, i think you got me mixed up with somebody else :)
@@TheHiddenOne690 haha no way think I got you mixed up with the Spaniard 😂 I thought you sounded different lol
LMAO, we sound nothing alike haha, idk how you got that mixed up@@ivartheboneless5969
Hot take: This video was amazing and needs a part 2
you are amazing!
Unity being buggy was a blessing in disguise for me. I had pre-ordered both it and Rogue. I played Rogue first, so by the time I got to Unity the worst bugs were fixed.
Ubisoft desperately tried to do some damage control, so I ended up getting Far Cry 4 for free while not having a bad time with Unity.
Hot take: Black Flag is meh
Hot take, this is going to be such an awesome series, I would also like to see ranking videos again, for example favourite synchronisationpoint points or the best dlcs out of the acs
I do plan to make those videos again :)
@@TheHiddenOne690 I'm already looking forward to the videos
We need assassin’s creed 2077
Evie was miles better than jacob. She actually took being an assassin seriously, unlike Jacob, who kinda wrote it off as a joke. Also, i find it kind of funny that her only assassination mission to kill Lucy was the best mission with the best unique kill. Syndicate should have had only one playable protagonist being her.
Hot Take: Its crystal clear from AC 2 that this franchise was always going to be a full RPG. All the elements needed for one and mechanics built there are carried out and expanded upon through the rest of the franchise
I reckon it started in brotherhood because it’s the first game with a large wilderness compared to the city
@@PixelsNBeatsYT Yeah it's bigger but when you directly compare everything else- Brotherhood is just AC 2.0
I think Assassin creed needs a reboot. A remake of Ac 1 - Ac 3 story so they can go with the original plot line of Desmond being the ultimate Assassin. Yes fans might feel like they wasted time or maybe loss some new players but I believe if done right , Ubisoft could lead the franchise in a great direction again as well as make their stories better while using some parts of the originals flow better
I actualy read assassins creed forsaken and it was so good but it would be so much better if turned into a game or maybe even a tv show adaptation ac hasn't tried shows yet and this could be good with its episodic style
I don’t really agree with the idea that Ezio getting three games makes him overrated. Even his three games in full with all the DLC and tombs and stuff took me less time to complete than Valhalla (and presumably Odyssey if I actually cared enough to finish it). But Ezio has way more personality in just one of his games than Eivor did in over 100 hours of Valhalla.
hot take, AC needs to stop having the fake choice of character gender while also outright stating which is the canon one. I think it'd be a better use of Ubi's time and money to give up one character who is canon. I don't care if I'm playing as a dude or chick, just as long as they are decently written, you can still have all the dialog options you want, just focus on making that one character consistent and well developed. Also, it doesn't feel good getting 80 hours into a game just to be told my character choice isn't canon so giving a set character prevents those issues. I was very happy to see Basim in Mirage with no other options.
Yeah I also never understood why ezio is so popular he never seemed so special to me anyway
He's one of my favorite assassins but I get where you're coming from
@@jamiefaingnaert1057 Well maybe you are seeing something in him that I am overlooking that would explain it I guess
Mostly Popular for the nostalgia
He held a greater purpose to the overall narrative of the series. The characters following Ezio held no overall purpose besides existing as a playable character for the game.
@@LeFilmMatrice101 Hmm yeah I get that point at view I try to see it like that next time I play his games maybe my opinion changes then who knows
Hot take: The reason I don't like the rpg AC games is because of the genres, I don't like RPGs that much and much rather prefer action adventure games with stealth like the older AC games
I bought AC Nexus on the Quest 2 and it is such a good game! Specially the Ezio missions
The fact that you're even making videos about my favorite franchise is enough to sate my need for more Assassin's Creed. Your videos are amazing mainly because you don't follow what's popular, nor do I incessantly agree with a lot of your picks, and I think that's what really makes your channel awesome.
Thanks! That means a lot. I try to be as unbiased as I can in my videos. If I like/dislike something, I'd just say it as it is
Hot take: the RPG games, particularly Origins and Valhalla, aren't bad games, they're just bad AC games. If a studio released AC Valhalla without the AC title, the game would be panned way better.
I do like the RPG games, especially origins, but i do prefer the older games, not because I played them during my childhood but because they are a lot more fun and unique.
Hot take: Assassins creed needs a ww2 game and a game about Thomas de Carneillon.
pretty shure syndicate had a ww2 dlc or something
@@simerboy2147 ww1
I like both modern and old AC. But the RPG games burn me out a lot faster than the classic style of gameplay. But that's probably because I've played a lot of rpgs throughout the years lol
If I remember correctly, AC Unity was planned as a 2016 game, a five year dev cycle from 2011, and then rushed by the publisher. So, judging by this, imagine how underbaked story and gameplay are. It mirrors AC1 (another game rushed 2 years in advance) in so many ways but suffers even more, at least in AC1 the story is so immersive that you can forgive a lot of setbacks.
Hot take: they should resume the Juno plot line and fully flesh out desmonds and Juno's ending.
I feel like this has been ignored since ac syndicate even though it wasnt that important in the game, but the latest ac games havent even mentioned them apart from valhalla
It was concluded in the comics. Odyssey refers to the aftermath in the present day segments in the London loft.
Hot take a AC game set in zürich/or like Switzerland during the reformation and tje war between catholics and reformed
This is valid, however Hot take: I just don't see how the RPG games of the Assassin's Creed Franchise really fit within it. Now don't get me wrong I still watched gameplay of it because I was intrigued at least a little in Eivor and Bayek, but regardless it was just not fun to watch or play when I got it myself. The RPG aspect in assassin's creed always felt odd to me, not because of Nostalgia but because Stealth, Exploring, hell even fighting was genuinely boring. Odyssey just has the spear thing so you can just get a dual stealth assassination from a dude who's like 20 meters away, the abilities made it literally just a get out of jail free card. Now moving back, I'm not saying stealth was NON-EXISTENT. but it wasn't enjoyable as it was in Assassin's creed 2, 3, Unity, etc. At least for me whenever I think of an Assassin I think of a stealthy killer. None of the new games have that. Is it Biased? Probably, I mean I find the old games just to be more fun in general than any of the RPG new ones. I like RPG games, but It doesn't fit in Assassin's creeds whole style. The combat, I can say was kinda fun? I didn't enjoy having to use like L2 and R2 for an attack button. I can literally only praise the combat, because that's honestly all it had. It was technically "open" world, but with nothing to do. The same problem Black flag had. It was GREAT, don't get me wrong. But the small islands black flag had were literally useless. The only reason I went there was to catch predators/prey for the cool hunting feeling. With all the RPG game's it has that exact problem, the world is MASSIVE, but it's so big that most of it is inhabited. Most of Odyssey I had to stay afk on my phone because trying to travel on a horse who had honestly in my opinion HORRIBLE AI and controlling was so bad that I genuinely would rather just let it do the auto course that would take like 10 minutes longer. The RPG games feel dry, and the only one you can say that isn't dry is literally just Origins. I feel like there's 3 assassins creed game that complete all 3 pillars, AC 2 having combat, AC Unity having Stealth, and the last being parkour, Needing Unity's Animations while having the functions of literally any AC game like under black flag.
Would be nice if we had a Cold War era assassin’s creed
Hot take: AC2 is my least favorite game in the series. The story is not compelling and feels rushed. It feels like 90% of the story was slammed into the last couple hours of the game. Also, it is extremely clunky and janky. The combat is also repetitive and easy.
12:50 I disagree because we keep seeing a rise in games that make enemies bullet sponges with health dictated by level (which often enough scales with the player) instead of leaving smart design and making the player think about how to handle a tough situation, it becomes a "will the player screw up the combat enough times to have to retry?" because of the enemies having ridiculous amounts of health, I'm not up to date, but I think at least one of Origins, Odyssey or Valhalla didn't have a hidden blade, meaning that the entire premise of the game of eliminating threats in a smart manner is gone. I don't mind having an Assassin's Creed game with a protagonist who wants to fight in the open, but then there's the creed with the two rules being about stealth, like mentioned in the point about guns.
If you want level ups, just replace them with upgrades, but not every action game needs an experience bar. I actually think that the synchronisation from the first Assassin's Creed was more innovative than the ubiquitous levelling system, although I could be biased because I think I played RPGs before I first played Assassin's Creed.
To put it short: RPGfication replaces smart game design with a more artificial difficulty, by making most engagements battles of attrition due to crazy amounts of health enemies have, instead of having to use the tools at your disposal to turn the situation to your favour.
My favorite game of the series STILL is odyssey and ik that bc that is the only one so far that i am willing to replay💀 for the gameplay, story, history and interactive world. It is literally THE BEST one. It IS EVERYTHING YALL SAY Origins is bc it is what Origins tried to be and what Valhalla what should have been. Calling it weak in any area other than not actually being the “beginning of the brotherhood” as marketed just tells me y’all “true AC fans have too much Bias! I am 25 years old. Been a fan of Assassins Creed since the very beginning. So I spent 2020-present beating them all in timeline order to 100% completion- even reading all the shit they give you to read in the game. Yall shit on the wrong shit when it comes to these games man lol
Hot take: I find the Modern day pointless. It slowed down the story too much at times especially in the Desmond days. 3 was the only time modern day felt worth it. Please don’t send the lynch mob my way😬😅
I am a fan of the "old style" AC games, been playing since AC 1. I am not the biggest fan of the newer games, when seeing them as AC games. Personally, if Ubisoft wanted a game to ride the popularity of Sparta & 300 then they should have just done that instead of slapping an AC c9at of paint on Odyssey. I think Odyssey is a beautiful game and I've had loads of fun with it... but iif I want to spen an afternoon playing an AC game, Odyssey isnt the one I boot up. My view is even worse regarding AC Viking. Now while I call Black Flag (tongue in cheek) AC Pirate... I _still_ consider it to be an Assassins Creed game, because we see Kenway's character arc go from pirate looking out for himself and hungering for gold to actually taking on responsibility and caring about other people plus these changes take place _while_ he learns about the *actual* Assassins Creed. Plus, ACBF isnt nearly so fantasy based as the last two big installments. Now again, i like fantasy games... but darn it if I buy a Spider-Man game i expect to play as Spider-Man for *most* of the game... not Wolverine. Both are cool, but if a company wants to sell a Wolverine game, then sell a Wolverine game, dont slap Spider-Man on the cover just because there is an established IP. So one can be nostalgic for the older games AND find the newer games fun... and still hold the position that the newer games are AC in name only. I ould have like Odyssey and Valhalla a heck of a lot more if Ubisoft had stripped out any AC stuff and just made 2 fantasy games where you play as a demi god that doesnt know they are a demi-god and go on a journey through the world to discover your place in it... which lets face it, is _exactly_ what Odyssey and Valhalla do.
The way I see it, Altair is the legend we all aspire to be, while Ezio is like the father figure to me. I relate most to Connor, and to me Connor is fuckin GOATed.
While his actions may have been a little shitty, Haytham was right.
Shay was right 100%.
The lazy story of Rogue could have been fuckin amazing if they gave more than half a shit.
Amunet is by far the best girl.
The RPG games are not AC games. Maybe you could argue Origins is an AC game, but the other 2 just fuckin AREN'T.
Yusuf was the best partner.
The parachute was garbage.
Hmm, I'm runnin low now...
Edit: what are the 3 pillars of AC? Stealth, movement/traversal, historical representation? I think I remember ubisoft saying "fighting, stealth and something else, but is that what you mean?
Edit again: "stuck in the past" while playing AC games is just a wild and kinda meta thing to say. Lol
Hot take - Black Flag is one of the worst games in the series for me. Along with the ones that force you to spend much time on the ship. Yes, that's the reason. For me travelling by water in games is always boooring. Doesn't matter if it's swimming or sailing - always boring. Finished BF once and never returned to it
Hot take 2 - Syndicate was first AC since Ezio Trilogy that I truly enjoyed. AC3 - boring protagonist and plot, AC4 & Rogue - look at Hot take 1, Unity - boring plot and terrible combat. Sure, Syndicate wasn't perfect. I think it would be better if the antagonist was a historical figure. But still, I did enjoy it
13:10 I agree, but also disagree. I agree that you should go into the RPG games not really expecting old AC. But I also think for AC to succeed, they need to go back to how it was. If they fleshed out the old formula, these games would be GOTY material. The mechanics of the old games were so good, but not fully polished. The old formula is what made assassin's creed, assassin's creed. Now its just genetic, soulless RPG games. They don't feel like AC anymore. Unfortunately, ubi won't listen cause they prefer the quick cash grabs AC is known for now. But at the same time we should be voicing our opinions. Hopefully, maybe, ubi will eventually listen. Probably when the series really stops selling so much.
HOT TAKE: RPG games were definitely a mistake and it's not even about being nostalgic to the past. Even comparing Unity/Syndicate and Origins/Odyssey you can see the downgrade in mechanics. Those games came out in same 4 year time span. There is no parkour in RPG games, there is no social stealth in RPG games. 2 tenants of what makes an AC game an AC game is lost, what you're left with is combat which many games already does better than AsCreed. Some people say gameplay is better due to being more "challenging" but I disagree when I see enemies who can't even react to being in fire. Guards used to abandon their weapons and escape from Ezio/Altair if they killed so many guards back to back. That never happens in RPG creed.
For the first hot take, I originally was under the same mind set of oh Ezios overrated. Because I had played AC3 and loved Conners character MORE after my second play through. Coming out of my play through of brotherhood I’d have to say it’s the game not the character that’s over rated. Ezio may not have the same intimation as Conner but he has the charm and…ability to talk to others that Conner doesn’t. While I’d still say Conner is my preferred assassin I can see why Ezio had that cult following…and I mean CULT following.
I took a huge break from Assassin's creed. Idky. Adulting probably. I have played all of the games since they first came out, and the last ones I bought on release was AC unity and rogue.
Next thing I know I missed origins, odyssy and vahalla. I rushed through origins and didn't even finish odyssey. I loved valhalla. I can see how they really aren't assassiny lol.
I'm replaying all the games from start to finish right now. I'm on AC3 remastered.
AC 1 is great, but needs a remaster and some overhaul.
Ac2 was amazing.
Brotherhood was boring for me because it was my 6 or 7th time plying it.
I wasn't looking forward to revelations. It just isn't one of my favorites. Still ok.
Ac3. I didn't remember alot about this game since I haven't played it since it came out. I'm currently playing it now.
I can't wait to replay black flag and rogue again.
I'm excited to replay origins and syndicate as well.
I'm not really looking forward to replaying odyssey again, and I'm definitely not replaying vahalla. I loved the game but I basically 95 percented the game and I don't want to go through all that again so soon.
Ezio just plain overshadows. Connor got a weaker reception because players were expecting another Ezio, and Edward and Arno both reflected Ezio in some way (Arno far more overtly). Run a poll about Assassin’s Creed protagonists, put Ezio as an option and more people will vote for him no matter the question.
my hot take is syndicate is my personal favorite and nothing will make that change, this game has a special place in my heart and I love to appreciate everything I love in this game even recognizing its flaws and things I would've done differently
Unity and Rogue were both ruined by that stupid release deadline "oh they have to release on the same day, hurr durr"
Unity needed more than just bug fixes, though. You can clearly see that huge chunks of story were cut out. I suppose the same could be said for Rogue.
It's a shame, because Unity had the potential to be a masterpiece. Ubisoft Montreal's magnum opus.... But they rushed it. There is no game in history with more wasted potential than Unity.
Valhalla is just everything against what the original games were.Blue from OSP discussed this, and I agree 100% with it. All other games, I see they're ok. Everyone has their preferences. But Valhalla is just plain insult, where the mythological parts in Origins and Odyssey are cool and give an authentic experience as to what those people believed in, Valhalla just makes fun of medeival Scandinavian culture by appealing to the misappropriated image in pop culture.
Black Flag sucks. Edward sucks. Ezio is in fact overrated (i say this as a slut for Ezio) Valhalla is good. Odyssey was good. Origins was not. Unity sucks. Arno is abysmal as a character and his parkour literally just feels like Syndicate. Rogue was bad af it was just kinda cool to be a templar but AC3 also does this mucy better.
Hot Take: Odyssey's optimistic tone was the right choice. Assassin's Creed has always been more enjoyable for me when the games chose a more upbeat tone. Whether it was Edward's cockiness and wit, the Frye's bantering, Kassandra's optimistic outlook, or Ezio's determination to help and succeed, Assassin's Creed was always more fun when the characters were having fun and hopeful. Valhalla was the antithesis of that for me, and it’s so far been the only game I haven't enjoyed. Eivor never felt like she had any fun, or sense of hope. Just the opposite, she was entirely focused on preventing a prophecised future, and it was that tone that killed the game more than anything else.
Ubisoft simplifying the parkour was the best decision. Unity and below (by release) you have to hold like 4 buttons just to run- it should not be that deep when we are free-running as a means to shortcut. The parkour puzzles and missions in the early games are also clunky ash even when you are doing it right. It’s been clunky in all the games until they just decided to scrap it with origins. But at least to gave you better tools in Unity & Syndicate to make it less broken.
Hot take:
Ezio trilogy is vastly overrated, ac1,ac2 and brotherhood are the bottom 3 games in the series.
Ac2 and ac1 are very janky and unrefined for this day and age.
Except the freerunning and story, nothing is over average.
Ac brotherhood is more refined but lacks variety, and has lackluster story compared to the other games.
Revelations is the best out of the trilogy, but its still not top 5.
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Were we not meant to live in peace then? Is that it? Are we born to argue? To fight? So many voices, each demanding something else. (AC3 Monolouge)
I do think this is what every Assassin has had to have thought at some point. That it's just endless fighting and for what? Get rid of the Templars and what do you replace it with then right? (My take)
Hot take: Odyssey is the worst part of the RPG trilogy. Kassandra's voice acting is terrible nad her character is boring. The quests are incredibly repetitive and the world offers too few types of side activities. Steal, kill - basically nothing else. The game looks unaesthetic and ugly. A lot of the dialogue options go nowhere and are there only to make the dialogue seem branching, even though it isn't at all.