@@mattbettcher7439Yeah,he was only 2 inches shorter than when he is fully grown comparing him to Samuel Adams A very early bloomer like Mike Tyson. Personally at 13 i was nearly a whole foot smaller than now
Altair's the most skilled assassin in the series, canonically was never even touched which is why he doesn’t have a health bar(and has a synchronisation bar instead), and became a master assassin at 24 He may be a massive asshole for most of the game, but damn right does it feel like he’s earned it seeing as nobody ever bested him
Well from Ah Tabai word him self (after Edward finish saving the west indies Assassins and his crew) you have remarkable skills, but you are not wellcome here My answer would be he's just talented, even the first time he use the Hidden Blade given from the Templars he was hesitant at first but flow with it naturally
Edward was a member of the West Indies brotherhood as Ah Tabai gave him targets to hunt (Roberts, Rogers and Torres) when Edward left he joined the British Brotherhood. This is because unlike modern day they were split into different chapters
He didnt join the West indies Assassins. Edward wanted to right his wrongs so Ah Tabai gave him info and set his targets. This is even backed up at the end after all targets are killed with both Anne and Ah Tabai asking Edward what will he do now? Edward in turn said he MIGHT join the assassins in England but he might do something else. If he's already in the brotherhood, why would he say he might join the english sect? Think of Edwards West Indies "targets" as a trial run for him to see if he liked this life.
Damn, I know they can just put any age for a fictional character, but most of them are young adults when they joined the brotherhood, while templars are usually much older, with 10 or more age gap, which makes it realistic since politicians are much older and have more experience, while younger population is more open to new ideas and changes. My point is that assassin's age makes sense and is quite realistic
I strongly believe remembering Connor was 17 when he became a member. Also, I hope everyone in the future, wether they like him or not, doesn't need to hear the fact that Ezio is the most beloved character in the series. BECAUSE THEY WOULD KNOW.
@@jojocasimir1118they are different type of characters. Connor is meant to be troubled, flawed and in suffering. Ezio is meant to be the cool James Bond characters
@@TheHiddenOne690 Actually no, 17 is right i am playing AC3 again and yes he arrives at Davenport at 14 but it takes him a few years of training and going to boston before actually earning his assassin's suit and title.
We actually know that Kassandra never actually joined the assassin's because there is a set of missions in valhalla where you get to do some missions along side of her and she will mention that she has allied with them at times when their goals cross paths but she is not part of them but that doesn't mean that she didn't latter on but as of the time of valhalla she is not part of the brotherhood
To be fair, Valhalla is set in the 800s. Kassandra died over a thousand years later. It's more so speculation as to what she did for that long. She could've done anything
I don’t think she’d have joined them, she worked with Eivor to neutralise a Piece of Eden but that wasn’t Hidden One business specifically and in her extended lifespan Kassandra would logically become less attached to sides in conflict. I see her more as a third party, keeping Pieces of Eden off the board aware of how much they can affect events.
You could take a look at his beard, he couldn't have been no older than 20 on the dot, because let's say that he was older than that, he would have been Sheikh Basim💀
So would it be possible to say that Ezio became an assassin either as you said with the ceremony or when he and Mario ended Ezio's training? After all Ezio himself said that it's time he takes over his father's work in full. Just an idea ofcourse 😊
@@arkadiusznagorny3111 You raise a good point here. I thought it amazing that Ezio carried on like an accomplished Assassin from the age of 17 to when he was officially inducted into the Brotherhood some 12 years later. Who else did that? Only our Ezio!🦅👍🏼
@BarbMcVay-u5l he had to learn fast, not that he didn't have help and he made mistakes especially in his younger years, we also cannot forget he is so far the only protagonist that had 3 games to develop even if new ac games are way bigger scale wise. But yeah, Ezio will always be the guy
Ezio became an assassin when he assassinated Uberto Alberti at age 17, and then spends the next however many years assassinating people, and nothing will convince me otherwise. 🤷♀️
@@ninjafrog6966 No kidding! Thanks for raising this important point. I read somewhere in all the AC Unity stuff I’ve collected that it was an ancient Creed “tea” made from herbs that contain hallucinogens.
I thought Connor became an Assassin at in between 16-18 years old since he was born I believe in the year 1756 and became an Assassin somewhere around 1773.
I thought Edward would've become an assassin when he was 28, just before he starts hunting down the 3 main targets, as part of the west indies brotherhood, then he joined the British brotherhood when he got to England
Edward kenway is 22 years old when he killed and took the robes Duncan 😊 1 September 1722 he kills Laureano de Torres at the age of 29yrs Did the math on age calculator ages ago loved black flag
With all due respect coz I love ur channel, I think u got the frye twins wrong since they had the same start as Desmond because their family were assassins, so weren't they born assassins? at the age of 0
@@maltevombndThey were raised to be inducted into the Brotherhood though. Ethan was already an Assassin, and worked with the Assassins in Crawley, as his wife died in childbirth and he went to Amritsar in part because he couldn’t face the twins for this, Jacob and Evie would have been raised, no doubt George Westhouse mainly in Ethan’s absence in this, with the skills an Assassin would make use of.
Your wrong about Edward because if you recall when he talked to adibi near the end he was told he had his targets so he was inducted during the time skip leading up to that conversation 😊
Desmond was referring to his parentage And I like how you start with, oh Desmond was born into the order so was joined since birth then go straight into Altair was born into the order and so would have joined as a kid/teen.
Connor does not look like a 14 year old. He should have been canonically aged up a bit to around 17 or 18 instead, which is what he actually looks like. What is it with Ubisoft making their characters look far older than they actually are. The only one who looks like their actual age is Eivor (female) who is meant to be 25 at the start of AC Valhalla
recently I was wondering how old some of the people were when they became assassins. mostly because I just finished the Ezio Collection on ps5 so it's great you put out this video. still a big fan of the series and you channel btw
Still using; “I’ll do it myself” Completely ruining the credibility of self thought, leaving it up to a meme for the very reason why people should make the content they want to…
Dear Hidden One, thank you again for a great study. Were you including only those Assassins who have games? I noticed that Aguilar de Nerha was not included but perhaps it’s because many AC fans detested the 2016 movie. Aguilar was 37 when he was inducted into the Spanish Brotherhood. Also, I learned a long time ago to avoid referring to Connor as “Connor Kenway” due to his negative relationship with Hatham. Do you have any thoughts on this? Thank you so much!
I find it kind of ridiculous that they waited so long to let Ezio be part of the brotherhood. The guy was doing all the heavy lifting for years lol 😂. Also, I wish they didn’t make Ezio jump with age so quickly throughout the game. One part he’s 29 and then bam, he’s 40 in the next part. So much time passed but the characters talk about certain events like they happened yesterday. These are the only things that felt a bit off in the story.
I wish they make a game set in Iberia back when Islam was the majority and you play as an Assassin working for that side and the Templars (cruseders) come and swipe them out of Iberia basically a story that Assassins couldn’t win against Templars it would be interesting
I'll do it myself. I thought the wiki tells us how old they are. There's usually a time period when certain events happen. I would hate cutting off my finger to become an assassin. Even Ezio flinched when his finger got branded and his sister took it like she does this every week and barely showed signs of pain. Connor didn't have to deal with any pain. Desmond did use an actual handgun when fighting his way through Abstergo. He definitely killed people. 1:26 This is the scene I was talking about. 1:50 Bayek is the first official assassin not Altair and even then the events of AC go back even further than that even though the Brotherhood wasn't around yet. Wasn't Altair 26 when he became an assassin? The game takes place in 1191 and he was born in 1165. Did Ezio become an Assassin when his finger got branded? I don't remember what year this was in. I think it was 1488 which makes him 29 so that appears to be correct. I thought Connor got the Assassin outfit after he was 14. Wasn't he 18 when he got them? 5:36 Right, I'm not even going to try and pronounce that. Edward was pretty old when he became an Assassin. Wasn't Edward 29 when he became an Assassin? I think his adventure ends in 1722 not including the final cutscene which is 1733 just 2 years before his death. The wiki says Aya was born in 85 BC. 14:53 That is so cool. Kassasndra was born in 458 BC but she's not an assassin. Kassandra lived for over 2000 years. She was 411 when the brotherhood was formed. One of the characters in Valhalla looks like Kassandra.
If Basim was 17 in the beginning of Mirage and 26 in the beginning of Vahalla how old does Haytham would be in Vahalla knowing he was still a child in Mirage from the lost tale of Bagdad
I don't want to sound like an Assassin's Creed Shadow hater, but does anyone know about the problems with Assassin's Creed Shadow? Because...damn, this isn't good And also good video, I like your content
I don't remember it exactly, but at the beginning of Valhalla, Sigurd has been away from Norway for a period of time, I don't know if it specifies how long he was with Basim
@@BipedAthlete851 I'm playing valhalla right now, was at that part 2 weeks ago I think, so it's not that recent, but I remember either Randvi or Eivor mentioning they haven't seen Sigurd in 2 years
So just to make this clear Ezio that comes from a family of the creed and done more for the brotherhood than any other assains on that ear becomes a assains after doing all those things
@@maltevombnd so let's play that game of semantics... where in the video or title did he say mainline games. Ave and Adewale are not in mainline games. Kassandra/Bayek/Basim are not assassin's, they are Hidden Ones and should not be in the video. Chronicles should of been included, but they never get any love with any AC YTers and it's a shame
I don't want to be rude or anything but that's genuinely just a you thing. I don't know if it's tiktok brain or what but since being on TH-cam for over a year, this is the first ever comment I've received saying this .
@@TheHiddenOne690 respecting your reply. But I felt like this video doesn't require this length. I believe myself I don't have tiktok brain, usually I enjoy long videos like pewds minecraft series and etc.
@@TheHiddenOne690 no need to apologise my friend, also a suggestion, can you make videos of other games with good combat like assassins creed? Maybe like a comparison video?
4:38 lol.
Father of haytham? Edward got some explaining to do
@@billjaywarr6509 Connor is daddy now.
@@TheHiddenOne690 always was 🤣😭
@TheHiddenOne690 *spits tea* *cough* *cough* 😂 Say what?
@billjaywarr6509 Yeah. He is very handsome , and he was my first Assassin crush.
I loved it when Conor was massacred those Brutes when he went to meet Achilles first, he was just 14 😅
Right? What the fuck!! That whole section I feel like they should have made him like 16-18 ish i dont know
He was 13.
14 after some training
You can also tell he is shorter than when he is older when comparing him to other characters
@@newhybrid101 not by much! When you first show up to the homestead he’s almost as tall as Godfrey
@@mattbettcher7439Yeah,he was only 2 inches shorter than when he is fully grown comparing him to Samuel Adams
A very early bloomer like Mike Tyson.
Personally at 13 i was nearly a whole foot smaller than now
Yea, Connor was born to be an assassin 😂
Altair's the most skilled assassin in the series, canonically was never even touched which is why he doesn’t have a health bar(and has a synchronisation bar instead), and became a master assassin at 24
He may be a massive asshole for most of the game, but damn right does it feel like he’s earned it seeing as nobody ever bested him
is that really true?? wow, i've never played it due to it being so old. I might have to jump into it that sounds sick
I think you are forgetting the start of ac1. When he got beated
@@ShadowFrenzyplaysCutscenes don't count
@@UzairAli-iy5jh they do, cutscenes are canon
Ehhh I’ll say Kassandra
Edward Kenway had the fastest rank up. that just took him one year from assassin to master assassin
Well from Ah Tabai word him self (after Edward finish saving the west indies Assassins and his crew) you have remarkable skills, but you are not wellcome here
My answer would be he's just talented, even the first time he use the Hidden Blade given from the Templars he was hesitant at first but flow with it naturally
@@ihevmilkdhou I Don't get your point of saying these words
What im trying to say is Ah Tabai saw that Edward have skills, which make me think he's just talented
@@ihevmilkdhou I don't have access to comic books so I can't agree or disagree but thanks for information
@@Aref_Vahdati no, non of what i say is from comics or others, all this is literally in the game
Edward was a member of the West Indies brotherhood as Ah Tabai gave him targets to hunt (Roberts, Rogers and Torres) when Edward left he joined the British Brotherhood. This is because unlike modern day they were split into different chapters
He didnt join the West indies Assassins. Edward wanted to right his wrongs so Ah Tabai gave him info and set his targets. This is even backed up at the end after all targets are killed with both Anne and Ah Tabai asking Edward what will he do now? Edward in turn said he MIGHT join the assassins in England but he might do something else. If he's already in the brotherhood, why would he say he might join the english sect? Think of Edwards West Indies "targets" as a trial run for him to see if he liked this life.
Damn, I know they can just put any age for a fictional character, but most of them are young adults when they joined the brotherhood, while templars are usually much older, with 10 or more age gap, which makes it realistic since politicians are much older and have more experience, while younger population is more open to new ideas and changes. My point is that assassin's age makes sense and is quite realistic
8:53 Adewale is younger than Edward?! I always thought that they were equally old or that Adewale was older
I strongly believe remembering Connor was 17 when he became a member.
Also, I hope everyone in the future, wether they like him or not, doesn't need to hear the fact that Ezio is the most beloved character in the series. BECAUSE THEY WOULD KNOW.
To be fair, when you google it. The first thing that pops up is 17 which I found strange because it's wrong
I always liked Connor eizo overrated
@@jojocasimir1118they are different type of characters.
Connor is meant to be troubled, flawed and in suffering.
Ezio is meant to be the cool James Bond characters
@@newhybrid101 yea I peep that
@@TheHiddenOne690 Actually no, 17 is right i am playing AC3 again and yes he arrives at Davenport at 14 but it takes him a few years of training and going to boston before actually earning his assassin's suit and title.
We actually know that Kassandra never actually joined the assassin's because there is a set of missions in valhalla where you get to do some missions along side of her and she will mention that she has allied with them at times when their goals cross paths but she is not part of them but that doesn't mean that she didn't latter on but as of the time of valhalla she is not part of the brotherhood
To be fair, Valhalla is set in the 800s. Kassandra died over a thousand years later. It's more so speculation as to what she did for that long. She could've done anything
Yep
@TheHiddenOne690 I completely agree so we at least know she was over 1000 before she could have possibly joined at least
I don’t think she’d have joined them, she worked with Eivor to neutralise a Piece of Eden but that wasn’t Hidden One business specifically and in her extended lifespan Kassandra would logically become less attached to sides in conflict. I see her more as a third party, keeping Pieces of Eden off the board aware of how much they can affect events.
You could take a look at his beard, he couldn't have been no older than 20 on the dot, because let's say that he was older than that, he would have been Sheikh Basim💀
This is very well put together. I respect your dedication. You did miss Layla though, and the nameless ones, the latter I understand why.
So would it be possible to say that Ezio became an assassin either as you said with the ceremony or when he and Mario ended Ezio's training? After all Ezio himself said that it's time he takes over his father's work in full. Just an idea ofcourse 😊
This is what I always believed tbh it makes sense, I look at the ceremony as him just solidifying his role with the Italian brotherhood
@@arkadiusznagorny3111 You raise a good point here. I thought it amazing that Ezio carried on like an accomplished Assassin from the age of 17 to when he was officially inducted into the Brotherhood some 12 years later. Who else did that? Only our Ezio!🦅👍🏼
@BarbMcVay-u5l he had to learn fast, not that he didn't have help and he made mistakes especially in his younger years, we also cannot forget he is so far the only protagonist that had 3 games to develop even if new ac games are way bigger scale wise. But yeah, Ezio will always be the guy
"wake up the hidden one just upload"
Hey hidden one quick question.
An tips on how to grow my audience and youtube channel?
Also amazing video btw.
Also 4:38 🤣.
Title & Thumbnail are the most important parts of a video.
@@TheHiddenOne690 Thanks!
Ezio became an assassin when he assassinated Uberto Alberti at age 17, and then spends the next however many years assassinating people, and nothing will convince me otherwise. 🤷♀️
Head cannon is a dangerous drug
I thought the finger branding is what made it official.
@@TheHiddenOne690I mean, that's literally what happens, but ok. 🤷♀️
Another W vid from one of the goats of assassin's creed youtube.
Being 'born into' the life of the Assassins is not necessarily the same as being initiated at birth.
seriously, what the hell was in that drink they gave to arno?
@@ninjafrog6966 No kidding! Thanks for raising this important point. I read somewhere in all the AC Unity stuff I’ve collected that it was an ancient Creed “tea” made from herbs that contain hallucinogens.
I thought Connor became an Assassin at in between 16-18 years old since he was born I believe in the year 1756 and became an Assassin somewhere around 1773.
I thought Edward would've become an assassin when he was 28, just before he starts hunting down the 3 main targets, as part of the west indies brotherhood, then he joined the British brotherhood when he got to England
Edward kenway is 22 years old when he killed and took the robes Duncan 😊
1 September 1722 he kills Laureano de Torres at the age of 29yrs
Did the math on age calculator ages ago loved black flag
With all due respect coz I love ur channel, I think u got the frye twins wrong since they had the same start as Desmond because their family were assassins, so weren't they born assassins? at the age of 0
But they weren't born in an Assassin Village as Desmond was.
@@maltevombndThey were raised to be inducted into the Brotherhood though. Ethan was already an Assassin, and worked with the Assassins in Crawley, as his wife died in childbirth and he went to Amritsar in part because he couldn’t face the twins for this, Jacob and Evie would have been raised, no doubt George Westhouse mainly in Ethan’s absence in this, with the skills an Assassin would make use of.
Your wrong about Edward because if you recall when he talked to adibi near the end he was told he had his targets so he was inducted during the time skip leading up to that conversation 😊
Desmond was referring to his parentage
And I like how you start with, oh Desmond was born into the order so was joined since birth then go straight into Altair was born into the order and so would have joined as a kid/teen.
Anyone else remembering about Connor just ripping any enemy in his way apart including a big group of brutes
1:42 They tell you that Desmond was born into the Assassin's in AC3
Connor does not look like a 14 year old. He should have been canonically aged up a bit to around 17 or 18 instead, which is what he actually looks like.
What is it with Ubisoft making their characters look far older than they actually are. The only one who looks like their actual age is Eivor (female) who is meant to be 25 at the start of AC Valhalla
In my opinion almost every AC character looks older than they actually are
@@YerbaDelDiablo Why
Mike Tyson looked nearly fully grown at 14.
Its rare but some people are like that
recently I was wondering how old some of the people were when they became assassins. mostly because I just finished the Ezio Collection on ps5 so it's great you put out this video. still a big fan of the series and you channel btw
Appreciate that!
🤔 I m very Confused. Baism Looked like. 36 jaar en eivor look like 35
Eivor is 25 I think in the beginning of the game
@jojocasimir1118 thanks for helping
Still using;
“I’ll do it myself”
Completely ruining the credibility of self thought, leaving it up to a meme for the very reason why people should make the content they want to…
Dear Hidden One, thank you again for a great study. Were you including only those Assassins who have games? I noticed that Aguilar de Nerha was not included but perhaps it’s because many AC fans detested the 2016 movie. Aguilar was 37 when he was inducted into the Spanish Brotherhood. Also, I learned a long time ago to avoid referring to Connor as “Connor Kenway” due to his negative relationship with Hatham. Do you have any thoughts on this? Thank you so much!
Hi there barb. Yeah I only featured game protagonists for this video since people may not know the other media
@@TheHiddenOne690 Thank you Hidden One. I thought that may be the case. Appreciate your fast reply. Take care and treat yourself good!🦅
I find it kind of ridiculous that they waited so long to let Ezio be part of the brotherhood. The guy was doing all the heavy lifting for years lol 😂. Also, I wish they didn’t make Ezio jump with age so quickly throughout the game. One part he’s 29 and then bam, he’s 40 in the next part. So much time passed but the characters talk about certain events like they happened yesterday. These are the only things that felt a bit off in the story.
I wish they make a game set in Iberia back when Islam was the majority and you play as an Assassin working for that side and the Templars (cruseders) come and swipe them out of Iberia basically a story that Assassins couldn’t win against Templars it would be interesting
I'll do it myself. I thought the wiki tells us how old they are. There's usually a time period when certain events happen.
I would hate cutting off my finger to become an assassin. Even Ezio flinched when his finger got branded and his sister took it like she does this every week and barely showed signs of pain. Connor didn't have to deal with any pain.
Desmond did use an actual handgun when fighting his way through Abstergo. He definitely killed people. 1:26 This is the scene I was talking about.
1:50 Bayek is the first official assassin not Altair and even then the events of AC go back even further than that even though the Brotherhood wasn't around yet.
Wasn't Altair 26 when he became an assassin? The game takes place in 1191 and he was born in 1165.
Did Ezio become an Assassin when his finger got branded? I don't remember what year this was in. I think it was 1488 which makes him 29 so that appears to be correct.
I thought Connor got the Assassin outfit after he was 14. Wasn't he 18 when he got them? 5:36 Right, I'm not even going to try and pronounce that.
Edward was pretty old when he became an Assassin. Wasn't Edward 29 when he became an Assassin? I think his adventure ends in 1722 not including the final cutscene which is 1733 just 2 years before his death.
The wiki says Aya was born in 85 BC. 14:53 That is so cool.
Kassasndra was born in 458 BC but she's not an assassin. Kassandra lived for over 2000 years. She was 411 when the brotherhood was formed.
One of the characters in Valhalla looks like Kassandra.
If Basim was 17 in the beginning of Mirage and 26 in the beginning of Vahalla how old does Haytham would be in Vahalla knowing he was still a child in Mirage from the lost tale of Bagdad
I don't want to sound like an Assassin's Creed Shadow hater, but does anyone know about the problems with Assassin's Creed Shadow? Because...damn, this isn't good
And also good video, I like your content
Where do you get the age of 26 for when Basim met Sigurd?
I don't remember it exactly, but at the beginning of Valhalla, Sigurd has been away from Norway for a period of time, I don't know if it specifies how long he was with Basim
@@BipedAthlete851 I'm playing valhalla right now, was at that part 2 weeks ago I think, so it's not that recent, but I remember either Randvi or Eivor mentioning they haven't seen Sigurd in 2 years
So just to make this clear Ezio that comes from a family of the creed and done more for the brotherhood than any other assains on that ear becomes a assains after doing all those things
Did you change the thumbnail, or have i gaslighted myself into thinking Ezio was in the middle first?
Maybe you are hallucinating!
@@TheHiddenOne690 You bastard!
@MegaRide123 I swear I saw Edward in the middle and now I see Ezio
Again. Hallucinating
@@TheHiddenOne690 I guess so, lol. Also you are my favorite Assassin’s Creed TH-camr
Pls some one tell me is there is a +18 scene in ac brotherhood and revelation
Where is this guys accent from ?
Wakanda.
Yet again Chronicles gets overlooked
They are not mainline
@@maltevombnd so let's play that game of semantics... where in the video or title did he say mainline games. Ave and Adewale are not in mainline games. Kassandra/Bayek/Basim are not assassin's, they are Hidden Ones and should not be in the video.
Chronicles should of been included, but they never get any love with any AC YTers and it's a shame
Please make a video about best dlcs....
Work in progress. I haven't finished every single dlc to make that video yet. Got 1 or 2 left
Great 👍 keep it up your videos are awesome....
Guess dawn of ragnarok is one still on the list? 😅 @@TheHiddenOne690
LOL yup. I can't put myself to play it man
@@TheHiddenOne690 🤣🤣
4:34 thats.... interesting
I want a video about how old protagonist are when they die
I've made that already
Where is charles lee
I randomly found you lol
you were the channel ive been dreaming of
im your new sub
Welcome!
@@TheHiddenOne690
Thank you im waiting for more AC content your videos are so good
Thanks!
you are a legend barb!
@@TheHiddenOne690 Hidden One, you are too kind! It is YOU who is legendary.🤗💕👍🏼
Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
Edward Kenway was probably 21 when he joined the Brotherhood even if its unclear...
Update:I meant it's kinda unclear.
never realized his age, thought he was around his 30s in blackflag
When the game started, he was around his mid-20s
@@UzairAli-iy5jh Oh,thanks for the info.
@@UzairAli-iy5jhNo, he was in his early 20s.
@@UzairAli-iy5jhAbout 21, IIRC
Brother, you should really decrease your video length. It gets boring to watch 18 minutes for this topic. No offense, I like your videos.
I don't want to be rude or anything but that's genuinely just a you thing. I don't know if it's tiktok brain or what but since being on TH-cam for over a year, this is the first ever comment I've received saying this .
@@TheHiddenOne690 respecting your reply. But I felt like this video doesn't require this length. I believe myself I don't have tiktok brain, usually I enjoy long videos like pewds minecraft series and etc.
@@TheHiddenOne690 anyway your videos are great, hoping to see more videos.
Your right to be fair. This topic isn't an interesting enough one for the length. I apologize for the way I came off 💚
@@TheHiddenOne690 no need to apologise my friend, also a suggestion, can you make videos of other games with good combat like assassins creed? Maybe like a comparison video?
under 1 minute gang 👇 (not begging for likes)