We hunters usually guilty of over kill..... just keep it inside 100 yards . You should be able to shoot quarter size groups easily that far with 223. Meaning you should be able to hit a deer in the eye 👁 at 100 yards.... that being said It will smoke 💨 a deer with a double Lung shot. Iv never had an issue with 223 for deer it’s plenty....... people who disagree probably haven’t seen it 1st hand or aren’t confident in shot placement.
I killed a deer using 75gr PPU match ammo. The first shot was 200yds. It fell and got up and ran toward me. I fired a second shot at about 125yds and hit it on the run. Both bullets went clean through and made pretty good exit wounds to track by. Didn't have to track it much. It fell in the tree line and expired. My first shot went through the shoulder and the second hit the back and came out a ham.
I've killed quite a few deer with my 223 rifles. I would highly recommend the Fusion MSR 223 62 gr ammo or equally the Speer Gold Tip 75gr or 62gr. All of these are bonded bullets and yet expand very well. Better than your Win xp loads. which are not a bonded bullets..
Dude same here I killed a decent sized mule deer buck with those same rounds and I aimed for the shoulder. I double tapped with my Ar15 since it was under 100 yards and I have a good muzzle brake on the rifle.
Just ask my father in law if .223 is big enough for whitetail... He smoked a BIG doe last year and she only went maybe 30 yards... 64 grain soft point... Her lungs looked just like you would hit one with a 308
what are the hunting laws in your state. some states dont allow big game hunting with 223. not saying it wont kill a deer a .22lr will kill a deer if your shot placement is right.
Love to see a ballistics comparison, 223 vs. 5.56. I can shoot both through my AR and only stock 223 if I can't find 5.56. Never thought of using my AR for hunting, now I will.
That's a very simple comparison. Usually, if you shoot both in a 5.56 chamber, the 223 is about 100fps slower with comparable ammo. The difference is a bit less accurate,(we're talking 1/2 moa or so), a tad less practical distance, and a tiny bit more wind play. But all that is too small a difference for most people to notice. The bigger difference is that the 5.56 chamber can more easily fit longer bullets like the 70-80 grain range. Those bullets are slower, but more aerodynamic so they actually have more energy and less wind play past 250 yards. Come to think of it, that might make a good video.
I have a question: I bought a thermal scope, but the recoil for this devise is limited by 308, and I have a 30-06 and 223, but scope is not new, used and no warranty. I plan to use it on moose thise fall season. The range is under 100 yards, and I think to make neck shot from 223, fmg or sp to use?
Hi, Jordan I'm hunting Vologda region, Russia . There is no restriction concerning moose or hog, we have limitation in small game, not more than 5.6 mm (223) for hare, fox, and 22lr for birds.
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We hunters usually guilty of over kill..... just keep it inside 100 yards . You should be able to shoot quarter size groups easily that far with 223.
Meaning you should be able to hit a deer in the eye 👁 at 100 yards....
that being said
It will smoke 💨 a deer with a double Lung shot.
Iv never had an issue with 223 for deer it’s plenty....... people who disagree probably haven’t seen it 1st hand or aren’t confident in shot placement.
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I killed a deer using 75gr PPU match ammo. The first shot was 200yds. It fell and got up and ran toward me. I fired a second shot at about 125yds and hit it on the run. Both bullets went clean through and made pretty good exit wounds to track by. Didn't have to track it much. It fell in the tree line and expired. My first shot went through the shoulder and the second hit the back and came out a ham.
Federal fusion 62 gr is absolutely nasty on whitetail.
I’ve killed a 230 lb mule deer with 62gr federal fusion msr. Broke a front shoulder but I always double tap with it since it’s an Ar15
I shot a 8 point buck with my new ruger American 5.56 on Monday night. I used a fusion 62 grain .223 on it. It didn't go far before it dropped.
Seems to be more than effective
I've killed quite a few deer with my 223 rifles. I would highly recommend the Fusion MSR 223 62 gr ammo or equally the Speer Gold Tip 75gr or 62gr. All of these are bonded bullets and yet expand very well. Better than your Win xp loads. which are not a bonded bullets..
The Fusion 62gr is what I use as well. It's a fantastic cartridge for deer and hogs!
Dude same here I killed a decent sized mule deer buck with those same rounds and I aimed for the shoulder. I double tapped with my Ar15 since it was under 100 yards and I have a good muzzle brake on the rifle.
I second that
Just ask my father in law if .223 is big enough for whitetail... He smoked a BIG doe last year and she only went maybe 30 yards... 64 grain soft point... Her lungs looked just like you would hit one with a 308
Sounds about right.
what are the hunting laws in your state. some states dont allow big game hunting with 223. not saying it wont kill a deer a .22lr will kill a deer if your shot placement is right.
If you support handgun hunting but not hunting with an AR you are clueless on ballistics.
Not good !!! Water jugs have no bones ( like sholds are ribs ) !
I've had decent results with 62gr MSR but way better results with 69-77 grain IMI HP. Don't get too hooked on the whole bonded bullet thing.
I took a deer with a 22 long rifle
Love to see a ballistics comparison, 223 vs. 5.56. I can shoot both through my AR and only stock 223 if I can't find 5.56. Never thought of using my AR for hunting, now I will.
That's a very simple comparison. Usually, if you shoot both in a 5.56 chamber, the 223 is about 100fps slower with comparable ammo. The difference is a bit less accurate,(we're talking 1/2 moa or so), a tad less practical distance, and a tiny bit more wind play. But all that is too small a difference for most people to notice. The bigger difference is that the 5.56 chamber can more easily fit longer bullets like the 70-80 grain range. Those bullets are slower, but more aerodynamic so they actually have more energy and less wind play past 250 yards. Come to think of it, that might make a good video.
@@GunTradition Wink wink, nudge nudge.
I used a 55 grain soft point. Worked very well! 120 yards
What about Underwood Ammo Controlled Chaos monolithic hollow point?
For small deer maybe but not essential
PPU often use Sierra bullets - says what they use on the back of the box (308 match) - not sure of the 223 but you can check
They do use Sierra bullets on their match ammo, but I think they make their own bullets for the normal stuff.
I’ve seen coyotes get away after solid hits and run off, only to die later. Use enough gun on a deer or larger.
You had to comment a second time to be wrong twice? 😂
@@tugspeedman8277 All you have to do is be wrong once and you are chasing a wounded game animal!!!No thanks, Cowboy!
I have a question: I bought a thermal scope, but the recoil for this devise is limited by 308, and I have a 30-06 and 223, but scope is not new, used and no warranty. I plan to use it on moose thise fall season. The range is under 100 yards, and I think to make neck shot from 223, fmg or sp to use?
Not sure where you are, but everywhere I know of, it's illegal to shoot moose with a 223. I would never do it even with neck shot.
Hi, Jordan
I'm hunting Vologda region, Russia . There is no restriction concerning moose or hog, we have limitation in small game, not more than 5.6 mm (223) for hare, fox, and 22lr for birds.
Jordan, I 've read articles on your site, looks like the writer in theme, l would like to ask you to check the opportunity for business in hunting goods, but didn't find a contacts for request. Could I get email adress for it?
@@tl1562 I don't sell any goods.
A friend of mine sells in Russia supressors (titanium welded construction) and looking for possibility to sell it in states, would like to find a partner. There is a lower price for titanium machined components than in states, probably it may be interesting for final customers
Use enough gun! Thats an animal you are shooting at. The .223 is barely enough for a large coyote for consistent kills.
Which means you have no experience with .223 on deer
@@jamescalhoun4588 If its questionable for coyotes , I won’t use it on larger game. I respect the game I shoot!
Would a head shot just end it with almost any ammo?
*a brain shot. Most of the head on a deer isn't where the brain is.
@@GunTradition behind the eye. He will drop.