FINAL UPDATE + Rinse Wax Application | Seal N Shine VS Graphene Flex Wax VS Ceramic Spray Coating
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Based on your vid I have come up with my own method:
1. As the TW Ceramic Coating looks more durable I have applied it (dry) as the base layer, cure 24hr.
2. Then I apply the TW Graphene Flex Wax (dry) as the second coat and cure 24hr as I like its depth and shininess.
3. I intend to top up in every wash with the Graphene.
The result is freshly amazing. Now I will keep eyes on their durability. Thanks for your awesome videos!
Any updates? Does the that product strip away your clear coat?
I like the spray and rinse for the wheels, can get into the barrels without taking them off. For the rest of the paint using flex as a drying aid works great for maintenance
I love the Ceramic spray coating on my cars. I put 2 coats on both of my cars in the spring, 2 coats on each car in the summer and 2 coats in the fall. I also put a couple toppers of Bead Maker on every now and then!! I also wait 24 hours before I do anything else to the finish.
It would be interesting for you to try the flex wax by spraying it on the wet car then moving it around with a drying towel. That method has worked a lot better for me than just spraying it on the car and then rinsing it off. Thanks for putting together the series. I have all three products and it was great to see your results on one vehicle that’s always in the same conditions
It definitely works better if you spray it on wet and then spread it out with a microfiber towel. I used it as a drying it on the rest of the car and results were great. I appreciate you tuning in and commenting Tom.
After a base coat of Max Wax, I use my leaf blower to get some of the water off the cars. Then I use the Flex Wax just like @Tom from Tacoma S said, spray it on and use a drying towel.
If you use the spray on rinse off method, your gonna have to towel dry the car anyway lol.
@@TheCarDetailingChannel does this method work with the hybrid ceramic spray coating as well?
If you use the flex wax or seal and shine as a drying aid they will last forever. I always dry may car with a leaf blower and Microfiber towel anyway so why not spray a few times per panel before I dry?
so use seal and shine as first as protectection and flex wax as drying aid when i was my car next?
I like that idea. I'm going to try that!
Expensive drying aid. You should use turtle wax 3 in 1 ceramic detailer as a drying aid. $13 for 32 oz and works just as well. I actually think that applying the grapheme coating that often might gunk up your pain and finish.
2 oz of seal and shine in a spray bottle with distilled water...thank me later 😎
I've used TW flex wax as a base and then sprayed and wiped the car after a wash..when wet...at least twice and the bottle still feels full...expensive to purchase but seems good value...results seem better than s&s or ceramic. ..at least on a white bmw.
Please test these 3 head-to-head.
1) Turtle Wax Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray Coating
2) Griot’s Garage Ceramic 3-in-1 Wax
3) The Last Coat
Thank you for the Suggestions. Lots of people want Griots so far.
To answer your questions. Yes the new microphone is making a difference because I can actually hear you now without having to turn the volume all the way up (and then down again when the ads would start). Second, I was thinking maybe Meguiars hybrid spray wax and the Nu nish Ceramic spray. Both are similar to this i think in terms of availability and prices
Thank you for the feed back about the Mic. I’m glad I picked one up. I will put the Megs and Nu Finish on the list
Wow, I'm glad I have stuck to the Ceramic spray rather than "upgrading" to the Flex wax, which cost 2x!
I'm very impressed with this product, it's so easy to use and cheap enough that it cost very little over the life of the bottle to use (at about 12 months now on the same bottle and still have 2/3 left).
Would love to try the Pro Graphene liquid wax in the future... I hear the gloss and richness is on point.
The Ceramic Spray Wax is a great product and in my experience, it will last 6 months on daily driven vehicle such as the car in the video. 6 months from a spray sealant is excellent durability. I also want to try the Graphene liquid wax to see how it is, with that product and a red finishing pad, you could get a car done in 15 minutes
I started with the TW Ceramic spray, it was great.
Then I figured the new Graphene was would be better. I think it brings out more shine. But then after a good cleaning prep I also use the TW Trio, the Polish/compound, Max Wax and Flex Wax. I was told the key is to put a solid base coat on a clean surface, that worked for me.
@@butchc9226 you are correct. First if you do not have to do any paint correction i.e. brand new paint, use to the max wax first then you can use the flex wax after that. That is what I did with my brand new Audi. I only have to rejuvenate it once every three months with the flex wax. To rejuvenate it, I spray on rinse off.
I up graded to Flex and now going back to Ceramic....
See if i use turtle Ceramic Spray on My Car 2 coats for example One coat now Second coat after 24 hours later how long These 2 coats will work ?
BTW, I made up a simple detailer / rinse-less / drying aid that works very well with the TW Ceramic Spray. Basically it's about 1 oz ONR, roughly ~15-20 squirts of the Ceramic Spray (shake first), and fill the remainder of a normal size spray bottle with water. It's super easy, cheap, and works fantastic! After a base layer of the coating, I haven't had to apply any other coatings in over a year on my black C6Z (DD), which sits outside year round. I wash the car about once a week and generally use about 1/3 of a bottle of this mix each time as a drying aid. I use roughly one bottle of the mix if I do a "waterless" wash (only if the car isn't very dirty). Give it a try, I think you'll be impressed!
I’m gonna give it a try. I do something similar but I use Wolfgang Uber rinse less SiO2. Thanks for the suggestion 🙏
Washing a car once a week is much more often than a lot of people. I think most people wash every 1-2 months. No wonder you didn't have to reapply the coating using that method.
@@mkygod It works very well. BTW, we have a spare car, it gets washed once every year, LOL!
I love Turtle wax’s hybrid pure shine, infused with graphene. Excellent hydrophobic properties, shine, and slickness. Great product 👍
Put ethos resist to the test, I personally find the ethos resist is the best all round product best gloss, ease of use and protection
I used the FlexWax wax coating several times by hand before using the spray as maintenance . NICE shine and beading.
Wow, Flex wet application really worked as a booster! That really surprised me. Glad I didn’t throw away my bottle. I’d love to see HS ceramic go up against Griots 3 in 1 and Mother’s or Maguiar’s ceramic spray. I like things you can get right off the shelf at any auto parts store or Walmart. Thanks again for doing this.🤟
I use this product pretty much exclusively as a drying aid and wet wax now. As a drying aid, don’t use too much product or it will streak. I find it’s easy to become trigger happy when using this as a drying aid 😂
How long it is last? 4 to 6 months? How often do you re apply it? Evry 2 3 months?
Do you recommended for at least every 3 4 months? Does it last at least for 5 months?
Please. Let me know!
Turtle wax hybrid solutions is the best ceramic spray you can buy at big box stores.
Excellent test of the Flex Wax. I use as a drying aid after initial base layer. Very pleased, 1 product protects the whole exterior. 👍🏻
I agree too, it's what I do as well
I’ve been doing maintenance coats, using flex wax as a drying aid, for ages. It works really well.
I think after paint correction use Ceramic Spay then Max Wax and finally top it with Flex Wax is the way to go. And keep using Flex Wax as a drying agent during maintenance washes.
I use the hybrid ceramic. I apply every 6 months. Honestly I was hoping it would win....Because i LOVE it. Thanks for this test. I’ll keep buying and recommending the ceramic and pass on the pricey graphene.
I’m on my 3rd bottle of the Hybrid ceramic already. It goes on sale at my local Walmart and I stock up. The value becomes even better. I’ve applied it on cars where I only did one layer and sent it down the road. Results were still excellent
I love the tw ceramic. Been using it for 8 month on my dark blue car. I also use as a drying aid with a soft towel. Then give it a quick application. Saves a lot of time and looks great!!
Which One You will Recommend For Me i Have Black Car and should i use after every Six months later there is no side effects?
@@mrlover8019 No side effects. In fact the more you use it the better the protection. Use the hybrid solutions ceramic spray coating with the greenish label.
@@roger3958 Thank you i will buy hybrid solution spray and i will use it after every 6 months but there is a question per time i will do 2 coats right so it means 4 coats a year (2-2)
Its been a good test man. I like this idea of putting products of daily drivers for head to head tests. Pan The Organizer has one going as well where he's test like 20 produuts or something like that. I vote for Griots 3 n 1 & Mothers Ceramic Spray. i use these both and both make my Challenger pop
Thank you for watching and commenting! I will be adding Mother’s and the Griots 3n1 to the list. I have the Mothers already, just need to pick up some Griots from Carzilla
Thanks for all the effort you put in to the tests, it really helps others in deciding what to buy.
I think the flex wax will work better if you spray on a wet car and wipe instead of spray and rinse. I would never use the product that way even if it's written on the bottle.
I agree with you. A base coat first app, then apply when at it's rinse stage as a dry aide. I do this myself.
Great long term test of the TW products. I was wondering about their ranking. You did the work for me!
The sound was so good just listening from my iPhone in my Van, the water sound, like was coming outside my car. Great microphone!
Yes!! Thank you Paul 🙏 I’m so glad that the microphone is making a difference. It cost me 80 bucks and I’m glad it’s improving the videos
I’ve been using both the HS ceramic sealant and Flexwax for over a year. I also like the ceramic sealant a bit better. I do however like using the Flexwax as a drying aid better than the HS Wet Wax. I believe it performs a bit better in that capacity. I used the Flexwax on a minivan I had in for an interior detail. I gave it a quick exterior wash as a value add. It gave an impressive amount of hydrophobic properties and gloss being there was zero protection on the van previously. I can’t speak to the durability of that kind of application but for a quick “clean & shine” I was very surprised. I also feel that using a pressure washer spreads the Flexwax a bit better! Thanks for the test series!
That’s where I love it as well. It’s so easy to perform a quick wash and wax for customer using flex wax. With little effort, you get really good gloss and hydrophobics
@@TheCarDetailingChannel I completely agree. Any idea on longevity when using it that way in your experience?
I’ve gotten 3 weeks out of it when I last used it as a drying aid. Even then, the protection was probably still there at 3 weeks.
Wolfgang Silica Spray, Manetts Gloss Sauce, Ethos Resist, NV Lustre, Tech Choice CDS. Off topic but the slickest detail spray I've used has been Wolfgang Sio2 rinseless wash diluted 3oz to a gallon of distilled water. NV Lustre is pretty extraordinary, my new favorite. Love the channel👍
100% NUFINISH BETTER THAN WAX CERAMIC SPRAY!!! This one is a must! It's done a fantastic job in my application. It will streak on your black hood but it's pretty durable and has really good water behavior! The other one is Griots 3 in 1 Ceranic spray!! Those two are really good and tough!
I’ve gotten good results from the Nu Finish as well and now a few people have requested Nu and Griots. I found that the Nu Finish performed way better after I let it cure for a few hours even though the bottle claims no cure time. Did you experience anything like that?
@@TheCarDetailingChannel definitely better with a cure. I did 24 hours before it rained and it's been super solid and durable!
@Gabe are you referring to the NuFinish Polish or the Rapid Shine? I was thinking of picking up the Rapid Shine to try something new.
@@Sugar0nGr1tZ No neither one of those. I'm talking about the NEW Nufinish Better than Wax Ceramic Spray. That's what it's called. You need to try it. Smells terrible but works very good on light color cars. Dark cars not so much because it streaks. About 15$ at Walmart. Very durable and very easy to put on.
@@gabevillarreal96 Thanks for the reply Gabe! I haven't seen it yet at my local Walmart, but when I do, I'm definitely going to grab it and give it a try.
griots ceramic 3 in 1 and gyeon can coat
sound is better forsure nice work
Thank you for your suggestions 🙏 Griots Ceramic 3 n 1 is getting a lot of votes
Griots 3 in 1 is a good call as a comparison. I would also suggest Wowo’s Crystal Sealant if you can pick it up. Very under rated product.
Griots 3 in 1 wax and Lithium Ceramic Slam
The other two products I would like to see you test are Carpro reload, and the last coat 2
Thank you for the suggestions Paul. Last Coat 2 has had a few votes already.
Love the vid tests. Next maybe try the Griots 3n1...vs....Mothers Ceramic....vs....Ethos Resist. Then match up the winner va The Turtle Ceramic.
I like the protection of the ceramic one, but I find it collects dust easier than any other product I've used.
Man.... I just polished out my truck w/ the TW Ceramic Polish, then put a coat of Ceramic Spray Coating on the next day (yesterday). I've been pretty happy with the TW Hybrid Ceramic line over the last couple of years, but this morning, I came outside and the truck was covered in dust/pollen (Northeast US). Seeing your comment, I may have to try the Flex Wax as a final topper. Looks like it's on clearance (why?) at Autozone for $10....
@@lmychajluk yeah I just picked up a bottle for $10
@@Blackhawk556. so good... in my country flex wax cost RM 178 for a bottle.... crazy man,,
Nice real life test !
It's really representative on how I'll use those products. Can't do any better. (And I'm glad I picked the ceramic spray coating)
For you next round, I'd like to see soft99 fusso coat in the mix.
Yes, it's a wax. But it look damn durable with a crazy beeding !
Thanks for doing this. It takes a lot of work and follow through and is so helpful to have someone be this consistent. Would you say that using the ceramic as the base layer with the graphene as the topper would be a good strategy? Why or why not?
I have always used traditional waxes/sealants and am impressed by both Turtle Wax Ica and Nufinish.
Nothing in these ceramics regarding longevity,. protection and shine has convinced me to switch.
Appreciate your work. 👍.i would like to see test between sonax ceramic and meguiars ceramic
Thank you Tarique 🙏 I will add Sonax and Meguiars to the list
Great test fella thanks for doing it. I have to say, when I first heard about graphene products a couple of years ago I thought they were a gimmick and my view has not changed. I've seen no real world benefit to a graphene product over a ceramic. In fact, as with this test, much of the time I see better results with ceramic products than graphene.
True
Surface temps are usually a little cooler on graphene products vs ceramics. Especially on darker paints
I have been waiting for this video for so long!
Thank you for watching and commenting! Do you have any suggestions on what should be applied next?
@@TheCarDetailingChannel try 303 graphene vs ethos resist vs turtlewax ceramic spray coating
I will note down both of those. Neither one are in my collection right now but that will change soon. Thank you for the suggestions
Griot's garage 3 in 1 I feel will be the next winner if it's used. & last coat!
I can’t wait to get my hands on that. So many people have mentioned it now and the price is not even that bad. I’m just surprised I don’t already have it on the shelf
@@TheCarDetailingChannel auto zone carries it
Would be interesting too see TW ceramic up against CarPro HydrO2 Lite and Gyeon WetCoat.
Griots garage 3 in one ceramic wax, and nu Finnish ceramic spray. Plz and thanks!❤
Ceramic is the clear winner. The new mic sounds great. Great reviews !
How about TW Ceramic against The Last Coat ?
Thank you for the feed back about the Mic Vincent. I will put Last Coat down on the list.
I also agree with you. You’re mixing the product with water, instead of drying, then applying the product? I think you’ll get much better properties, if you apply directly to a dry panel? My opinion?
Maybe try the test like so
Tw ceramic---test period---maint wash using tw ceramic wet wax.(drying aid)
Seal and shine---test period---maint wash with seal and shine.(drying aid)
Flex wax---test period---maint washes with flex wax.(drying aid).
Assuming the maint wash is midway through the test.
I tried that with the flex wax and it didn't do much of anything except leave spots on all the glass.
Thank you for the video. This helped me make a decision between the graphene and ceramic spray. Suggestion rinse off from both sides. You rinsed from right to left, also hit left to right so the same amount of water pressure is challenged on both sides. (I am being petty....lol)
This is awesome thanks for doing all these tests
Glad you like them!
Test Hybrid Solutions Graphene Spray. Fusso Super Soft 99 also.
Griot’s ceramic 3 in 1 would be good to see.
I still use the OG Seal and Shine. Feeling cute, might try the Ceramic stuff soon though lol
You should TRY the Hybrid Ceramic as a spray and rinse. See how that differs.
Sound is great
Thanks for this series!
Thank you for watching! I appreciate you
I really like the gauntlet drying towel from the Rag Company. I think Graphene products are not as good as the can be and give them a few more years and they might be the bomb. I think you should have used it as a drying aid.
I'm going flex wax, durable and looks the best
What spray nozzle are u using in conjunction with the water hose? Please lmk.
Audio is perfect!
Video &. Audio is better! Great job!! Thanks for your Videos!!
Compare
1. Turtle Wax Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray
2. Soft99 Fusso Coat 12 months
3. Nu finish Polish/Ceramic/Graphene (the best one)
I’ve been so impressed by the Turtle Wax Ceramic spray, that I’m doubting my decision to buy the Adams Advanced Graphene for my new car (a $130 purchase). Maybe I should just cancel and stick with the TW ceramic spray.
Can’t go wrong with TW ceramic spray. The Adam’s Graphene Spray coating is also an amazing product but at a significantly higher cost. I use the Adam’s Graphene Spray (the original) on my Jeep to top the Adam’s Graphene Ceramic that I have on it. Maybe I’ll put the two head to head against each other to see what lasts longer in the real world
@@TheCarDetailingChannel did you ever do this test?
Audio is excellent
So what do I do after 16 weeks? Do I just spray more on or do I need to prep the car all over again?
Fuso Coat wax (preferable the original version).
Fusso is so shit compared to pretty much anything. Annoying to apply and buff off, bad chemical resistance, worse gloss. Not worth is at all.
I was thinking only Spray sealants but a paste wax comparison video wouldn’t be a bad idea. I appreciate you always watching and commenting
@@Wiikendzgoodmix Difficulty applying/removing comes down strictly to user error.
As far as everything else it's contrary to the vast majority of folks experiences, and basically every video about it on this website period.
@@GainingDespair I said annoying, big difference. Pretty much no one in the detailing community in Sweden likes Fusso Coat, because its super annoying to work with, and because many super easy to work with spray sealants/waxes do a better job. Fusso Coat is outdated.
please compare Griot's 3 in 1 (green liquid bottle) to the hybrid ceramic spray
I have a bottle of the Griots in my cabinet. Just haven't had the chance to make the comparison yet but definitely added to the to-do list.
First time watching great content have suscribed.
Keep up the good work!
Thank you 🙏
How long it is last? 4 to 6 months? How often do you re apply it? Evry 2 3 months?
Do you recommended for at least every 3 4 months? Does it last at least for 5 months?
Please. Let me know!
The middle one and left one are dead. The right one is hanging on.
Agreed! The ceramic spray is easily the most durable out of the three.
Hybrid all the way i put that stuff on everything been my fav since it came out
It’s easily the longest lasting out of the 3. Application is a breeze too.
1) TW Ceramic spray coating
2) Megs Hybrid ceramic wax dry application
3) The Last coat V2 or Adams Graphene spray
No need for Griots 3 in 1 wax, this product is extremely durable, its victory is obvious
Thank you for commenting your suggestions Artem. I appreciate it bro.
Test Adams ceramic graphine spray
You should clean those headlights.
Just had mine replaced on my older wife's Hyundai Sonata. Crystal clear and with a few coatings of TW Ceramic Spray coating with UV protection, they should stay clear for a long time!
god bless you for this.. ty so much
Griots 3 in 1 vs gyeon can coat..
Great job 👏
Flex wax for sure, sheeting effect is great. Then s and s then the ceramic.
Told me that after applying it i can wash my car with shampoo or not
5:06 Impressive...
its still beading
Good experiment
303 graphene supposed to last a year?
Went for Ceramic to Flex liquid, but after see this, going back to ceramic.
Beadmaker and Last Coat black ice
Thank you! I’ve put them both down although I don’t think bead maker would compete with these other products when it comes to longevity
Seal N Shine is half the price of the Graphene Flex Wax. I wouldn't be surprised if Turtle Wax secretly nerfs it in the future.
I think they’ll keep seal n shine around for a long time. I saw a new looking bottle of Seal N Shine on their Instagram page so I’m wonder if another new version is coming out soon or maybe just a bottle face lift
@@TheCarDetailingChannel I hope so...still liking the Seal and shine A Lot, performance and price. Just a great Find a year or so ago. Love the TW ICe spray wax first..still like the smell. wondered about using them both...SS as a topper? This is a new thing for me, finding out Doubling up
oh, sorry...guessing SS (sealant) first before wax
The hybrid ceramic was for me the outright winner. but then you wet-sprayed the graphene over the ceramic... thus negating the trial.
If you use the Hybrid ceramic wash with the Ceramic coating, after washing I put two capfuls shampoo TO 1 litre warm water of in a pressure spray bottle & apply it on the wet rinsed car... then rinse again. Same effect as the Graphene... but cheaper. So I think you should try the ceramic shampoo in a wet application as outlined above. the second product should be the meguires.... wet rinse wax, which personally I think is expensive rubbish.
Test Walmart Sud labs ceramic sealant
Get on those headlights brougham
definitely meguiars hybrid ceramic wax (spray version)
Another vote for Meguiars. Thank you for leaving a comment
Test Hydroslick & Collinite 845
great reviews
I've found the new Seal n Shine isn't as durable as the original version
I really think this stuff is just sorcery 😂👌
just dont spray and rinse the Flex wax off, as it massively streaks, at least for me and several different cars I used this on. Use it as a topper on a dry or wet car but be sure to wipe it and not just rinse then wipe.
Nice microphone you sound like your in my kitchen
I hope that means its better than before 😄
@@TheCarDetailingChannel it's good
Thank you 🙏🏼
So which one was the winner?
The ceramic was the winner. He seemed to assume you saw the earlier video on applying where he shows in detail which one went in which area. The ceramic went on the one to the right of our screen.
I got really mixed feelings about Turtle wax products. For the money , they seems pretty good and you can just go out and pick them up just about anywhere Auto Detail products are sold. However, I found Seal and Shine to work better then the new Ghaphene. The Graphene is hard to get off, it smear very badly especially on darker cars where you can see the smears. Seal N Shine will smear when you use to much but even then not as bad as the Graphene. It's so hard to work with. I have used other brands Graphene and I like them all way better
ya...I'm still liking the Seal and Shine..might give the Ceramic a go just for a change/fun
Use it as a drying aid...
Milwaukee ceramic and fortify ceramic
You just wasted the product. You could do wet application while drying which would gave much better results. You dry your car anyways...
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