MG4 SE STD RANGE 70mph Motorway Range Test | how far will it go?
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The MG4 seems to be a great package and shows signs of very good efficiencies and that's not even touching on its price.
Having tested the vehicle in a mixed driving environment and it's ability to charge from 10-80%, today, I take my MG4 SE Standard Range on a 70mph/112kph motorway range test depleting the battery from 100% to just 2% to gather data on this brand new vehicle.
I was intrigued to see how the LFP 50kWh (useable) battery pack would deal with long-distance at 70mph/112kph speeds and how the efficient bespoke EV architecture of the MG4 would play its part.
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Thanks for another great video on the MG. We did a similar journey on 13th November when we were in the UK visiting family (we live in France). We went from Clun in Shropshire to Exeter, clocking 165 miles in the e-Niro. We started at 100%, arrived with 33% on a 64 kWh battery. This equates to 42.88 kWh of power use. I work in km having lived in France for a long time so the car is set up for kWh/100 km..we did just over 16 kWh/100 km for the that trip which was also on the M5 for a lot of the time doing between 110 -120 kph. This translates to 3.8 miles/kWh and tallies pretty well with the SOC % on arrival and power used. The Kia and the Hyundai Kona are famous for their efficiency which has been proved in many tests, coming second only to Tesla who are still the reigning champs of efficiency with the M3 and Y it would seem. I would have thought the MG4 with its lower profile and being a bit lighter would be a bit better than 3.2 m/kwh but there are so many variables when calculating efficiency. FYI on our way home through France on the much smoother, faster autoroutes where we tend to drive at 120-130 kph we did 19.5 kW/100 km into a strong headwind for 435 km...so that was 3.2 miles/kWh...Great to see the MG4 doing so well in UK sales. We have an MG concessionaire opening in Poitiers soon so expect to see more MG EVs on the roads in France.
Thanks so much for the comment and joining in with the chat. The Korean 400v cars are absolute beats with efficiency. 42.88 kWh for 165 miles is really good. What time of year was that? Some really good stats on your travels. I wonder how the Niro EV compares with its tweaks. Not sure if it’s heavier.
That’s great news about MG presence in France. I do think this car is really the closest thing for more adoption. However you do have quadrocycles like the ami in abundance int he cities. I saw one during my first 40 mile efficiency test in a lay-by. It’s on the video. Thanks again for tuning in
@@stuart_thomas Good to hear from you Stuart. The videos are great with lots of information. We did the Shropshire to Exeter run this month, November 13th I think it was. Will be keeping my eyes open for the MG4, the only MG I’ve seen is the ZS being used as a taxi in Bordeaux. We live 60 km south of Poitiers, middle of nowhere place where nothing rusts and 1990’s and even 1980s cars are still used as daily drives. You’re welcome to check out my channels ‘Kia e-Niro Diaries’ is from when I first got the car in March 2019...Thanks to IT incompetence I could no longer post to that one and more recent postings are on ‘Kia e-Niro Diaries Encore’. Really interested to see how the MG4 copes with the miles over the time you have it.
Hi Stu, great video, presenting info, and all round editing. You've made me a subscriber!
Thanks so much for the great feedback and for tuning in and the sub, it means a lot 😊
MG becoming a serious Marque after all these years!!! Excellent car and a serious contender now for many people making the move to EV…
Excellent real-world run this. Thanks.
Keep in mind that LFP batteries are very sensitive to low temperatures (Under 15°C) so it's a good result for winter, summer figures should be closer to spec.
Um its not winter in the UK its really mild at the moment.
@@davidlewis439912 degrees is also not summer. Retest at temp of at last 20 degrees. 5 to 6 months patience
And here in estonia average temperature in a full year is about 6c o.o
Good result
I got 3.2m/kwh on a long motorway trip in minus 3C, fog and damp. Same trip last week in usual slower traffic round M25 I was between 3.5 and 4.
Hi Stu, I'm new to your channel and currently running an MG ZS EV. I drive like a granny and am getting 14.5 kw/hrs per 100 kms. Current temps are on average 6°c.
I really liked the way you gave info from the cars' screens throughout the trip. I rarely drive on autoroutes but when I do it's usually at about 100 kph (about 62 mph) and I'm getting 280-300 kms (about 190 mls) on a full charge, which works for me just fine.
I charge overnight 2-3 times pw at home via a std domestic plug socket and granny charger.
I love my MG and wish them all the very best ...
Thanks for tuning in David and commenting. What a great car. My uncle drives the same one. Is it mk1 or 2?
That’s very efficient and shows if you’re able to drive a little slower it can pay off.
We have a Tesla M3 which is my wife’s car. For the first 4 months of ownership we had to use a granny charger as we had a looped electric supply. It worked for us but 70kWh battery took a long time to fill😊
How many miles have you done in your ZS?
Thanks Stu for another good video, you're improving every time and I think this one was really helpful to those who want to know what the real-life range and consumption the can expect from this car! I agree on the results, when temperatures will be more like 18 degrees those results will improve a lot.
Keep going with this kind of content, great job!
Thanks for the positive feedback ❤️
Hi Stu, great video, and as others have said, I love the continuous specs throughout the journey. It's nice to know that the first 50% of battery gave the same miles as the 2nd 50% so you can trust that it's roughly linear. Sounds obvious, but think about the fuel gauges on conventional cars, you almost never had half the range left when the fuel gauge read half!
It would be great to see the same test done at 60mph instead of 70mph, I was astonished how much more fuel i used at 70 than 60 to cover the same distance in my 2015 Peugeot 308 (62mpg at 60mph)
😮 just seen the 60mph test video that I requested, already done. Sorry Stuart, I'm such a dork 😂, thank Mark
2.9 miles per kwh at a steady 70mph doesn't seem bad at all..... And 3.2 miles per kwh for the complete trip isn't bad at all!
Hmmm, not so sure, my EV6 which is quite a lot bigger and heavier is slightly more efficient than that.
I think 2.9 is pretty poor compared to my m3 long range
Always love your videos mate. Just simple and very well explained.
Under £3 for the full journey? Wow.
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Thanks Somindra, that’s wonderful feedback. Yes, nice and cheap and have been enjoying 5p for the last 3 years but it all changes next month 😞
Thanks for tuning in!
But some people just don't believe it costs so little to run an EV if you charge at home.... And with petrol and diesel set to rise by 12p per litre next year, the running cost advantage remains......
@@Brian-om2hh Yep, they need to stop reading the Daily Mail ;)
Yes we all understand that motorway and some public charging points are horrendously expensive but these are the exceptional times those chargers are used, for the up to 20% use. Meanwhile, the Dino juice is the standard "always" price.
im a inch away from ordering a new mg4 hence watching the review finding it hard to find out the price of a charge from a public charger though can any one advise me on the costs im likely to incur
@@Mindmedia183 hi David thanks for tuning in. Public charging differs from brand to brand. As an example BP pulse is currently around 67p per kWh on a 50kw charger some a bit north of that. There’s also subscription models if you charge frequently. However, Tesco charge 28p per kWh at their super stores.
It’s worth downloading the Zap-Map app and checking out chargers on your common routes to get an idea.
Very interesting video. I charged my electric car up to get me home with about 35 miles left but doing 70 it was showing I was never going to make it so slowed down to 50 mpg and started gaining some miles, I got home with 38 miles left. Yes I do have the same name.
great and super! all the stars for you, you are the first to make this. only one question, what is the temperature of the ac you set?
Thanks for tuning in and the great feedback. AC was off throughout as was the fan.🤟
@@stuart_thomas yes i see but the heater use energy. how was the temperature set? with 11 degree i think almost 22? is it correct?
Arriving back home was trippy! I think it was a great range - 70mph is a speed where the car has to force the air out of the way especially cold air in winter
Great video.
Many thanks Brian and thanks for tuning in🤟
I have only just discovered your site and appreciate the thoughtful structure of what you write. You concentrate on ordinary people experience then elaborate with context even ageing petrolheads like I am can concentrate on.
While now retired to Ireland I am a Brit and, ironically, my classic MGB lives with a friend in Cambs who hires cars out to film makers.
IF MG has dealerships in Ireland outside horrid Dublin I might change to the EV version of the historic marque. I am told that EV MGs are made in China. Is this the case?
Thanks Stephen I really appreciate your kind words, it means a lot.
That’s fantastic to hear your MGB is getting well used. Great to keep them on the road.
MG (and along with most brands are build in China)👍
Great video again. It would be interesting to see the same journey @65mph 🤔
Thanks Adam. Yes, what % more efficient etc than 70. My guess would be about 0.1-0.2 miles p/kWh better
@@stuart_thomas I did a trip to Swansea and back. Mostly motorway at around 65mph, I achieved 3.6mpkwh . Approximately 20 extra miles range for slowing up a little.
Thanks for this Stuart. I have an MG4 Trophy on order so was very encouraged to watch your review. It's my second EV. I started three years ago with a Peugeot e208 but decided I need a bit more range and luggage space.
As has been said below, this video suggests the range predictor on the MG website is pretty accurate. They say 160 miles for motorway driving in the SE with a standard battery. Your experience (156.5 with 4 miles left) is almost the same as this.
The WLTP figure is a bit misleading as it isn't designed to give a range in the real world. It is a standardised test to support comparison between different vehicles. It is a relative value and the absolute figure can only be achieved if you mimic the test conditions. The biggest difference is that it is conducted in a laboratory and not on the open road.
I'm very happy with electric driving. Range anxiety seems to be something that mainly affects ICE drivers. Most people quickly adapt to little and often charging at home which is more appropriate for an EV.
Thanks for tuning in Chris and your comments. I nearly bought an e208 but was slightly too small. It’s a great car though and if I didn’t have a family I maybe have crossed over the line.
I’m pleased with the range test and like you said is accurate with the MG data. I can’t wait to do the test again soon in sun zero temp and in the summer.
It’s a great car and I have no doubt it will be a big success story for MG and EV transition. Congrats on your Trophy which colour did you go for?
@@stuart_thomas I have gone for Camden Grey. A bit too old for orange 😂. The e208 has been great but we need to use my wife's car on longer journeys. She has a Hyundai Kona with 64kWh battery.
@@chrismedley2352 that’s a great colour, was my original choice. Nice choice of the kona too, Korean wizardry!
Thanks for this - I found it quite interesting and rich with valuable information. We have much larger distances in Australia, and given the charging times, and infrequency of charging locations at present, this MG would pretty much be a vehicle that makes only occasional trips outside a city and even then not venturing far at all. That doesn't mean I found the results disappointing, nor that I see the car as deficient in any way: it seems a fine vehicle and is likely to find excellent acceptance over here where MG is doing very well, all things considered. I'm aware that there is a larger battery option - you've mentioned it in another video, but even that would make interstate driving something of a trial at present.
Thank you for your comment. Yes there is a long range battery option in Europe which is also a different chemistry and will charge a lot faster. I hope you find something suitable 👍
Do people make regular 150 mile trips in Oz?
@@GlassActivist yes, indeed. For example, I'm planning a short photography trip to the town of Bermagui. That's 260km one-way, from home. Some people live around 70km (and many people even further than that) from work, so their daily commute is significant. Australia is around 32x larger than all of the UK, according to Google.
Great video, thank you. My SE SR is arriving shortly. I hope.
Thanks Geoff and thanks for tuning in. You must be really exciting? Which colour did you run with?
@@stuart_thomas Camden grey SE SR
thanks for the video iam from france normandy i have just orfered mine in luxury version in red i will have to wait 6 months before delivery
Thanks Steven. That’s fantastic. Congratulations 👏 Having seen one this week in the flesh, I love that colour!
Very good test with REAL driving data at last someone telling us how it really is which is not always the case on You Tube where some people don't tell you if they have AC on or car was preheated. Nice that you mentioned all setup and no aircon and you preheated the battery before leaving. It would be interesting if you redid the test and same route (outside temperature the same as well) with aircon on at 20 or 22 degrees Celsius. You could also do this when its 0 or colder outside so see the difference in range and even repeat it in spring at 20 degrees. Also you could add cost of charging if you used standard energy rate for electricity in the UK.
Thanks for the positive comments RB. I have a video coming this weekend which might be of interest😊
@@stuart_thomas No need to say thanks as its refreshing to have real data showing real world driving.
I would hope you do this trip again in the summer and see what that has increased to in the warmer months
Absolutely 💯
Hi Stuart. Your videos are probably the most comprehensive information for the MG 4 SE SR. I received mine just before Christmas. How do you use the battery preconditions. Do you just leave it on having turned it on an hour before your trip? Also, I am charging on a granny cable, can I precondition the car before use as I guess that takes more energy than can be provided by the granny cable?
Hi John thanks for tuning in and the wonderful feedback it’s greatly appreciated.
Preconditioning should be used on two occasions… and hour before you set off on a long journey when it’s very cold. You can do this in the app or the car, either by doing it manually an hour beforehand or program it using the scheduling feature….or secondly, before using a DC fast charger (to help warm the battery up). You can preheat with a granny charger just be mindful the car is likely to receive very little charge at the same time but at least it won’t be at the expense of the battery %.
Excellent video - can you do the 64kwh variant next? :p
I have reached out to MG for a press vehicle. Fingers crossed
Thanks for taking the time to put this video together.
I currently spend £200 a month on diesel with my current car commuting to work and doing school runs etc.
I can get the long range version of this through work and I’d only be £50 a month out of pocket as my workplace has free charging. So tempting.
Is the Trophy worth it over the SE?
Thanks for the great feedback mark.
Considering an EV is definitely worth it if you can access cheaper or even free charging. You’ll find personal miles it will help too but on the whole an EV is a joy.
Trophy is a lovely spec. For leasing/company car it’s probably worth the extra monthly spend, it’s a great looking car with the spoiler and front fog lights and you’ll have the larger battery pack.
If you were buying one I think an extra 6k from the SE standard to Trophy is a big hike but it really is personal preference.
I think the sweet spot is the larger battery SE model. Heated seats be nice and all.but some what of Gap price wise for few extras
First time I’ve watched one of your videos Stu; I found it really useful. I’m currently leasing a Hyundai Ioniq 38kwh, which, on paper, has a smaller range than the MG4. This is one of the cars I will consider to replace the Ioniq when my lease is up. I have to say, I reckon the Ioniq would have performed at least as well, even considering the smaller battery. I would expect to achieve a minimum of 4m/kWh in the same circumstances. I have a road trip planned in a week or so; let’s see if I do achieve 4m/kWh.
Great car Neil. Even looked at one myself as it suits my use case and it’s incredibly efficient. Thanks for tuning in 🤟
My e-Niro would do around 4. 2mpkh at an indicated 70mph(about 66 actual speed). If that's LFP batteries, I think I'll look elsewhere when my lease is up!
@@geoffhemingway3926 thanks for tuning in Geoff. Those Korean cars are incredibly efficient especially for a shared platform 🤟
@@stuart_thomas Yes, they are. In total contrast, I was just watching 'out of spec's' motorway range test of the i.d Buzz 77kwh - at 70mph he got 2.1 mpkwh! 😂🤣😂 Okay it was in Norway and very cold, but even still! I would have got well over 3mpkwh in mine...
@@geoffhemingway3926 I haven’t seen there test but that doesn’t surprise me as it’s as aerodynamic as a house. Hummer EV was half that which is crazy as it weighs 9000lbs
Pre planning for me is knowing what wind variations in direction and speed will be forecast and the actually experienced .
If a front goes through you can sometimes have a headwind or tailwind component in both directions.
Wind is just such an important factor and increases with your planned speed.
Thanks for tuning in David. Wind is definitely worth considering. I’d be cautious of it at higher speeds and crosswinds. More resistance is less efficiency
@@stuart_thomas 30 km/hr = 140 v 80. The 140 is much worse than the 80 benefit.
Hi Stu,
Great video.
Very interesting as I have ordered my MG4.
Can you or did you reset the average kw per mile readout. Seemed to start quite low and improved while you drove.
Thanks
Hi kevin, as the battery warms up from driving, especially high speed, the more efficient it becomes as it runs at optimum temperature etc
Excellent range my e2008 in the summer doing around 65mph 122 miles
Thank you. That’s interesting what’s the cards useable battery size?
Thanks for such an informative video. Just have to ask why you spent so long in the middle lane, despite lane 1 (the inside lane) being obviously clear for a large portion of the journey?
Thanks for tuning in and commenting. You have only been exposed to snippets of the journey. I like to feel I’m a good example of a driver and spend 90% time in lane 1. I could upload the whole journey but I don’t think anyone would sit through it😊
It is funny just 1 day after you upload this video. I have to do a 70km+ round trip to another town plus a 24km on SR model 3 before hitting the supercharge to avoid the sad fate of stranded by the high way while running out of juice. All in all, I put down a 170km trip and burn through 51kwh capacity at between -4 to -2c with winter tire and wider tread. So by calculation, i can only manage 40.7% WLTP cycle. There is not much rang anxiety, but more for carful trup planning
Thanks for tuning in and commenting. Wow that’s quite a deficit. My wife has a model 3 LR and it’s always done over 200 miles and about 50% WLTP however not very often in sub zero conditions. Absolutely, have to be careful. Stuck at the roadside in these temperatures aren’t great 👍
thanks
Good range for the temperature.
It would have been helpful if you’d mention what model it is - either in the title or intro.
Hi, great test thank you. At 0:50s you put Intelligent battery heating setting "On" wich is a feature to condition your battery for a quick charge you don't make. I think you can easily gain some miles with this feature turn "Off".
Hi Yannig, quite right it was only during preheating the vehicle before we set off. If the car had been recently charging I wouldn’t use this but as we were on a long range test it just helps get the battery up to optimum temperature faster.
Hello from Australia! First up love the channel - just started looking at a new car and it’s currently a toss up between the Corolla Cross Hybrid vs the MG 4 both in their base model configurations.
So I’ve been doing a lot of googling and ended up stumbling across your channel and really enjoyed watching your videos about the MG4.
Just a question though in your experience would you say that the base MG4 during an average day temp of say about 21-22 degrees Celsius be able to reach a distance of 225km on a single full charge, whilst driving at hwy speeds around 110kmph / 70mph?
And if I’ve understood this correctly if it’s hotter, the battery will give better efficiency correct? I say this because running the a/c in the Aussie summer should be offset by the heat right?
Thanks for tuning in and I’m so pleased the videos were of help to you.
If you are referring to the 50kWh standard range then yes, you should be able to achieve this, probably as much as 260km.
Check out my range tests both at 60 and 70mph which will help give you an idea of realistic ranges.
Good luck with whatever you choose, feel free to ask any questions 👍👍👍
@@stuart_thomas thanks for replying - I’ve had a bit more of a look on your channel and found some of those road tests you mentioned, which was perfect!
Sometimes TH-cam just wants to make it hard to find the content that you want to find haha!
Wondering if youve had any improvements in efficiency. Considering getting one of these or an older ioniq which seem to be more efficient.
Buen video. Tengo un Seat mii electrico del cual estoy muy contento pero me estoy planteando cambiar a MG por capacidad de maletero y esos km extras en viajes largos.Buen trabajo
Thank you Alejandro. Seat Mii is a super little car. 😊
It would be interesting to do the same journey in different weather conditions and with one, two and three passengers, plus some luggage. Good to hear some financial data too as 5p per kWh versus 60p at many charge sites makes the case for charging at home as many will do as opposed to relying on charge networks.
On the list for winter testing😊 charging pricing is all over the place but there’s lots of ways to alleviate it with home energy EV tariffs, subscriptions and smart apps etc
I noticed that your average speed was 63 mph. I always find it interesting how the Average speed drops so quickly from the target speed, and how little things can make such a difference to journey times. The reverse of that is of course how difficult it is to make up for lost time. I once did a trip from Blackpool to Cosham where I set the cruise control to 70 for the entire journey, The average journey time turned out at 55 mph. even with no noticeable holdups.
Nice video by the way.
Thanks for tuning in Barry and the great comments. Yes, it’s bizarre. I guess it has to draw an average somewhere. In my case there to and from motorway even though mostly dual carriageway and the turnaround point in Taunton.
@@stuart_thomas Bear in mind most car speedos over-estimate actual speed. It might say you're doing 70mph but it's probably more like 65. Better to rely on an independent sat-nav. My old Hyundai was the only car I've owned where the speedo was spot-on
@@brendanpells912 I gave a qashqai. If speed limit is 84 I’m driving 83 and if it’s100 I’m driving 104
I'm getting the LR version in January (hopefully!) doing a 60mph test would be useful.
I think that's the most efficient speed which doesn't annoy anyone.
That’s great news on your new MG4. A few people have mentioned 60,65… if there’s an overwhelming request I will do one at one of the proposed speeds, just for anything else to get an idea of % difference at both tested speeds
@@stuart_thomas Agree with this, that would be really useful. My wife is looking at an MG4 standard range and she tends to do 60-65 on the motorway.
This is the reason I came to the comments to see if anyone had figures for 60mph driving. Would definitely be interested in the video if you were to do one :)
@@stuart_thomas Can you do another one with Adaptive Cruise Control turned on and following a big rig (set to safe distance of course)? Also, when using ACC does it engage regen when it needs to slow down?
@@edvoon I’ll have to check with regen, my guess is it’s mixed as regen doesn’t always slow the car adequately 😊
excuse me, I don't speak English well but just to say that the preconditioning of the battery is 15% to 20% more consumption. great video anyway, I'm waiting for my mg4 👍
Hi wolf thanks for tuning in and the comment. Do you mind me asking where the figures came from? They seem incredibly high. Having driven EVs for a few years, preconditioning is only good for super cold temperatures and you require the heat for the cabin or, before ultra fast charging. In my case today, the additional energy use is provided by the wall charger rather than the pack😊
3.2 miles p/Kwh is pretty bad. The Ioniq (2021 with 28,000 miles) does an average of 4.2 miles p/Kwh in winter, going up to 4.6 in summer. MGs battery is bigger and car is smaller/lighter, so was hoping for some miracle mileage. Pretty much compares to mine. Thank you for this, nearly made an expensive mistake.
Great video - really well made. This didn’t seem like a very good range to me - especially as 12 degrees isn’t that cold, the drive looked straightforward and there was no air con or heating turned on. Then I realised that for an SE, MG (WLTP) advertise 160 miles for motorway driving. 218 miles is for mixed driving.
Would like to see a test without the measures taken to ‘eek out’ the range.
the point of WLTP tests is to simulate real World conditions. Do you know what temperature they do the test at for EVs?
Thanks for the great comments Richard.
The car did well in line with the figures which are offered even though they’re at both ends of the spectrum.
I will do another test using AC (as I point out in the video as it seems more accurate let’s say).
This is what EV database report the conditions to be for the range figures….
Indication of real-world range in several situations. Cold weather: 'worst-case' based on -10°C and use of heating. Mild weather: 'best-case' based on 23°C and no use of A/C. For 'Highway' figures a constant speed of 70 mph is assumed. The actual range will depend on speed, style of driving, weather and route conditions.
Great video Stuart. How have you found the car in general over the past few weeks, any problems found? I noticed the water droplets on the back window during the fast charging video and I was wondering how you find the lack of a rear wiper?
Hi Munro - thanks for tuning in and the great comments.
Honestly, the car is great. It's solid and great to drive. Almost as good as aTesla model 3. Rear windscreen can be annoying, but I've been used it driving a Tesla for 3 years. You get used to it and I don't really use it only for checking blindspots on the motorway/A roads and once you get going the aero clears it. Only niggles I've had is personal prefs with driving set up not being able to save.
@@stuart_thomas thanks for the reply, I thought as much it's case of getting used to it. Btw, that's one hell of a swap from a Tesla model 3 to the MG 4. I suppose at the end of the day it is half the price even though the model 3 is supposedly a very good car.
@@munrocupido6806 We actually still have the M3. It’s my Wife’s car. I sold my VW touran when resales were at their peak and got what I paid for it 4 years ago. We’ve gone all in on electric and we love the MG4. It’s a great long term investment and intend to keep it as long as the VW👍
@@stuart_thomas Have you tried putting Rain-X on it? It's cheap and lasts 3 months. Maybe you can make a video with it applied on half the rear window and take a drive on a rainy day. Might be good for the side mirrors too.
@@edvoon good shout. I have diamond bright on it which is great for the bodywork. I’ll have a look at that though for sure 👌
So the big boy version, on a motorway is pretty safe for 200 miles. That's good enough for me abut 364 days of the year. Very useful thanks. Only question I'd ask is, have you ever checked with a GPS how close to 70 "70" on the display is. On my car you'd be doing ~67 there. Not a huge difference, but a difference.
Thanks for tuning in and the comment.
The GPS speed on the standard range matches the car. I can’t speak for the long range as it has a different motor but wheels remain the same size so I would expect it to be identical.
My MG4 SR should arrive early next year, my work headquarters is 174 miles and my mums house is 189 miles. Will be trying out some hypermiling I guess😂 you’ll see me behind a lorry at 56 mph with gloves and a hat 😛 would love, as others have mentioned, a video maybe doing 30-50 miles at 70/65/60/56 to compare how speeds impact range (I might try to do the theoretical maths on it too). Keep up the great work!
Thanks for the great comments. It’s funny, I do see so many EVs slip streaming lorries!
I do have a mixed driving speed efficiency test however it was in October when we were seeing temperatures of 16 degrees Celsius. I was achieving between 3.8-4 miles p/kWh
@@stuart_thomas my mum is in the arse end of Cornwall so the charging stations are also a bit less numerous. I have spotted what appears to be a nice farm shop on route with a 50kw charger so there’s certainly worse things than stopping. When charging at home is so cheap though pay over 70p per kWh seems a bit crazy if I can manage without stopping.
I’m sure I’ll get over it, with some experience (this will be my first EV), but reading about people getting 4kw only charging from the big Cornwall Gridserve site due to a fault in the past few days is pretty scary as that could end up being hours.
@@littlechanges13 I completely understand. I’ve been driving an EV for 3 years and infrastructure has changed a great deal. Only Tesla and IONITY had DC charging over 75kw etc when I was driving and costa significant less. although cost of public charging in some cases isn’t great, it’s about planning to. There’s a few apps out there which offer great route planning and will point out chargers and their speeds and cost and some apps will give you availability of those said chargers. Factoring in a 10-15 stop each way couple be a good balance to achieve a good middle ground. There’s also subscription models etc to drive costs down. I don’t know much about the Gridserve site but I’d always have a plan A and B for charging. I got caught out going to Hayle in Cornwall and our plan A charger wasn’t available on arrival (this was 3 years ago) plan B worked out fine and ended up stopping for an hour for dinner.
In terms of being new to an EV have you considered reaching out to MG for a 48 hour test drive? I know other manufacturers do this, might be a good way to test the waters for both situations even if it’s an MG or other brand?
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@@stuart_thomas I’m getting the MG4 on a salary sacrifice lease, which works out as fantastic value for money because it includes tax, insurance, servicing, tyres and a home charger. I did do a test drive at the local dealership but they’re getting tons of interest in the cars and seem interested in very little beyond a 30 min test followed by really uncomfortable hard selling. I’m fully committed to transitioning over to EV though and price to performance this is frankly the only sensible choice. I’m also less nervous about anything going wrong mechanically as frankly it won’t be ‘my car’. I’m quite looking forward to the adventure, and hopefully I’ll get a good grasp of all the chargers along the A30 soon enough 😂
@@littlechanges13 will you be able to charge when you get at her house. Granny lead for somewhat top up ?
Think I will be going for the longer range mg4
Hi, I have the MG3 that I have driven for a year, I receive my new MG4 in a few weeks (I hope) I am a pensioner who had a motor home, but sold it due to domestic health with the wife. But when we did have the motor home I drove her at 60 mph, I now just drive my EV at that speed! I once got stuck in a large traffic jam coming home from a trip up north resulting in the forecasted mileage that was shown would not get us home, yet we crawled along the road at 5 mph, I turned my main lights off and used my side lights, by the time we had travelled ten miles at a crawl, I then noticed I had enough millage to get us home, in which we did with 2 miles to spare! Which proves - The slower you drive - the more millage you will achieve! When we bought our EV, it stated that I would receive 184 mile range, it was winter months then bought and the millage showed only 138, then summer was apon us and we were shown 192? My message to EV drivers is - give yourself plenty time to where you are going and enjoy the drive and our beautiful country surroundings and smile as you watch those in a hurry wiz past your side window! I hope this helps all EV drivers! Speed kills - Take care always!
Thanks Alan for taking time to comment and very wise words
Well presented and informative video, thanks.
It demonstrated that electric powered cars have a way to go before they are for me.
I have family 100miles from me, by motorway, so the MG would leave me stranded; hopeless.
I would be comfortable with at least 400miles with the a/c on, in Winter.
Great video thanks again.
Remember this is the low spec model with less range. The longe range version can do 215 miles on the motorway so in theory that one should be enough for your journey of 200 miles. I do understand your skepticism though.
Would a small top up be out of the question tho?
If you only needed a top up of 40 miles or so,bthat would mean about 15 on the way there or back. I do this on my peugeot e2008, similar battery size to this one.
A 400mile capable battery at motorway speeds in Winter with heating on is a bit off yet, and may never arrive as I reckon that need is a bit niche for the money people would ne prepared to spend.
Probably needs solid state batts to make it possible.
@@peterf1966 Well then tthis guy would presumbaly spend the extra £3k to get the LR version which could do easily 200 miles without stopping . But in general no - the sort people who pop up on you tube demanding at least 400 mies of range in a £25k EV 'before they can think about it' can't stop at a motorway services (or anywhere near their destination) to top up, apparently. I mean they do that on ICE car trips all the time for petrol, but even if they have to do it once a year at Xmas with electricity it seems to make EV purchase impossible to contemplate for them. Odd. Anyway the rest of the world will move on...
Sadly, not enough range for me. Doing that same journey in cold weather where you'd need the heating on will require a charge after 120 miles.
Long range version?
Nice video , Good information. One issue it was only 11c temperature outside. Most people including myself would have the heater climate on. So maybe do the same test with the climate set to a average of 21c depending how good the heater is I know some cars need to be set to 23c. Also it would be nice if it was in comfort mode / normal mode. As every Ev I’ve owned the heater is rubbish when cold outside if you put the car in Eco mode.
And one other point unless you charge the car up over a few days it will not be £0.05p per kw to fill up to 100% as it will only put in around 40kw max in the 6 hours.
I like the look of the MG4 & it’s good value for money.
I was thinking of buying one until I test drove it.
Nothing too bad , But I like strong regeneration braking & the MG4 I drove you could hardly feel it compared to my i pace. The second issue was only a 7kw onboard charger. They missed a trick by not putting in a 11kw or like Nissan a 22kw come on MG or if it costs a lot more at least make it an option because when you go shopping if the DC is being used & a 22kw is available it will put a decent amount of charge in while you shop & in North wales there are a few 22kw on the beach front so in two hours on the beach you could whack 40kw in instead of maybe 12 kw make a big difference & could mean you don’t need to stop on the way home to charge. Also either fit a heat pump or make it a option as this would increase range in the colder months & make the car more efficient & cheaper to run long term.
O & one annoying thing the sills are wise & you catch your leg on them , there needs to be a door rubber fitted as these get filthy.
But for the price it pretty unbeatable
Thanks for tuning in and the great comments/suggestions Paul.
I agree about the temperature and I did make reference to this in my conclusion. I think that would be fair in future.
I only charge from home so the 5p is accurate. I do less miles a day than I can charge overnight etc so pre-planning a trip can consist at that rate of energy.
If you were to consider the Trophy model or SE long range, it comes as standard with an 11kw onboard charger.
I agree with the wide door sills. I’ve actually bought some strips to help protect these (and my ankles!).
Surprised about your comment on the regen for this car as I test drove one yesterday and it was really strong. There is a setting you can go to which lets you configure how much regen you would like.
@@JJJJJ269 it’s not that strong compared to one pedal driving. My Tesla will grind to a stop abruptly. I think the MG4 is great for anyone jumping into an ev for the first time as it’s a nice mix of both natural integration of regen and brake
@@stuart_thomas ah I see. Tbf I was only comparing it to my current car (Zoe 2021 plate) which has really bad regen compared with the MG4 so that’s probs why I felt like it was strong.
I used to own a Zoe ZE40 and motorway range at that speed was only about 125 miles so I think the MG pretty good for the price.
I agree Robert. Are you still driving an EV?
@@stuart_thomas I am a sinner. I had the Zoe three years but was very bored with it and replaced it with a 2012 Mercedes SLK 200. I do very few miles so in reality the running costs aren't much different. Maybe the MG sports car will tempt me back?
@@robsmith1a I’d have been disappointed if you’d said a corsa! That’s a quality motor!
@@robsmith1a we have a Zoe (50kwh battery) and are looking to switch as the motorway range isn’t great (150 in summer and 130ish in winter). Tempted by the mg4 tho.
@@JJJJJ269 I used to get 180 miles if ai followed a truck at a safe distance, pretty dull way to travel. Have you the R135 motor. I test drove one and it was way better than mine was. I liked the E208 but the sales person said they were getting 150 miles average from that. MG terrific value
Regarding the test I've 2 questions. At highway speeds, to extract the max juice from the battery, shouldn't we use low recovery setup instead? And because was a long run, is a good strategy have the battery preconditioning always on?
Great questions Filipe and thanks for tuning in.
It's an interesting question and I'm actually testing the different regen settings as some drivers have reported better efficiencies with less re-gen. As the car on the test was using the adaptive cruise, I'm not too concerned but i do intend to retest the route with the new lower temperatures and adaptive regen may suit best.
Battery conditioning is also an interesting one. I do believe because of its unique consumption is would be hard to tell with all the other variables whether it's better or not. But if I go by what the car suggests, it's for 'pre-conditioning' and the energy it uses is great for preparing for an occasion like cabin heating/warming the battery for charging. But it's worth testing at some point. So much to learn!
The Somerset levels are always good for economy due to being flat!
Great video, confirmed my suspisions regarding range. I have been offered one of these as an alternative to the 7 month late ZS long range I ordered at the start of the year. Nice care to drive but total lies when they said the real range of the ZS LR is around what the standard range MG4 has
Sorry, what was the range of the LARGE MGZS then Chris?
@@stuartburns8657 273 quoted. The salesman was trying to make out its around 200 in the real world after going on about how it's better than quoted when we ordered it.
@@chrisw3771 Oh dear. It'll be another 18 months min before we take the plunge, but it's highly likely to be an MG.
Good luck whatever you end up with 👍
@@stuartburns8657 we still want the ZS, it was the nicest car by miles out of everything we tried and £10k cheaper than most. Just MG's customer communication and delivery times are based on misinformation and outright lies
@@chrisw3771 That's a shame, but dealers will be dealers.
Our somewhat humble main car (Nissan Qashqai) is relatively feature packed, and like yourselves I suspected, it is still the only semi affordable EV alternative with an equivalent spec.
Just a shame our mpg so good with the Nissan (+ only £20 VED) and low annual mileage means it'd far from save us money.
Just a home charger install (£750-1000) is about what we're paying a year in diesel:(
Thanks for the video Stuart, very informative.
Did you check how accurate the speedometer is on the MG?
I think 160miles (about 260km) cruising at an indicated 70mph (112kph) is a very useful range. That would cover the vast majority of my trips, and for the odd longer trip, stopping after 1.5 to 2 hours to charge (have a stretch, t & p) would be be acceptable, even for work trips.
I live in New Zealand, MG are still evaluating the MG4 for the NZ market. I hope they do bring it as it would be nice to have a reasonably priced and stylish non-SUV EV available here.
Thanks for tuning in and the question - it is more or less spot on (well it is on my SE standard range). Two apps suggest it’s on the money, another say 1mph out but we’re talking a couple of miles at the best most on the range of this car. A car I did test just a few days ago, Kia Niro EV is 3mph short which I thought was a lot.
Thanks for not just going in the outer lane the whole time like most EV range tests 😂
Hi Stu, what mode did you complete this trip on? (Eco,normal)
Hi Sean, it was a custom set for best efficiency. In the first 2 mins I go through the full set up 😊
Just a note of caution, in this video @ 4 minutes into the video you show yourself traveling in the middle lane at night, which is in fact illegal to do so when the inside lane is clear ! (Day or Night)
The new law came into effect a few years back which says, 'If the inside lane is clear you should immediately move back into the left lane ! Many drivers are unaware of this and you are happily showing all of us this law breaking ! Just a cautionary note 👍Don't want Mr Plod knocking on your door !
Thanks Colin I had no idea this was a law.
Fortunately, I (think) I’m pretty good in terms of driving etiquette. It’s always a case that the snippets I present I’m in either lane 2 or 3.
Thanks again much appreciated
@@stuart_thomas No problem, I can see from the video your driving is excellent, but I thought as you will probably be making some more videos of the excellent MG4, so I thought I should make you aware of that law, sadly todays police would rather catch someone breaking the law online than actually going out and catching real criminals on the street ! such as burglaries where you almost certainly be ignored by the police, but if you dare share your opinion online on such things as diversity etc, then they will be knocking on your door pretty sharpish ! Get burgled or mugged in the street ! Forget it.
Hi Stuart, great video! Wondering why TJA is working above 60 km/h. On the specs of the car it says it’s only working at speeds < 60 km/h. How good is it holding its lane with TJA? Can you compare it somehow with Pilot Assist of Volvo or autopilot of Tesla?
Hi and thanks for tuning in and the question. I haven’t read this in the specs, if it says up to 60km/h then unfortunately it’s not accurate as I’ve used it at 70mph. It’s better and more reassuring than lane assist but I’d only use it on motorways. It’s not a finished product like autopilot and can feel a little twitchy but I don’t mind using it.
I got my SE SR MG 4 just before Christmas and am still getting a feel for the range during the winter months. I did a trip recently of 40 miles using exactly 30 percent battery which calculates out to around a range of 133 miles. The car indicated 3.7 miles per kWh for the trip which for a 50 kWh battery should give more like 180 miles. Does the car not tally up the energy used by the ancillaries. I don't understand the discrepancy.
Hi john congrats on your MG SR.
That sounds more or less accurate although one of my tests on the channel at an average of 3c I used 25% battery for 40 miles with mixed driving 70mph motorway (mostly). However, depending on your driving style, weather and road types this can be either side of those figures. The 3.7 mi pkWh sounds a little inflated but as the range (guess-o-metre) is based on a mix of previous driving and current driving that may explain that.
In situations like that I’d pay attention to your energy consumption screen on the main infotainment screen and actually look at how much energy you have used. Over the 40 miles for example you can take how many kWh you used for driving and ancillaries and that way work out your average usage for 50kWh pack.
I hope this helps
Great video, and very interesting. I'm interested in buying the MG4, so very useful video. You might want to indicate consumption also in kWh/Km which is the way we measure the consumption accross the chanel. I think it works out to 19 kWh/100 Km based on 48 kWh consumption for 156,5 miles (251 Km).
The MG4 seems like great value, even if it is a little thirsty.
Thanks Philippe. Thanks for the heads up.
I never thought I’d be ever entertaining the masses overseas on the channel so I’ll bear it in mind for next time 😉
Thanks for tuning in and commenting🤟
I love my MG4 Se Sr, did have have any issues with the car misting up as you did not have the ac on? I have always have to have my ac on at the lowest setting to stop it misting up !
Hi Richard thanks for tuning in.
Occasionally I do, especially if I’m on the phone. Back window is the worst culprit but to be fair I normally drive with my fan setting on one and 23 degrees.
On the test, I did have to open alternative windows slightly on inverted motorway bends to reduce any drag.
@@stuart_thomas Thanks Stuart, really loving your uploads👍
@@richardreynolds5302 really glad to hear I appreciate the kind words. It makes it all worth it 😊
What do you think the range will be on a freezing winter night with headlights and heater on and three passengers with some luggage? Will it make much difference?
Yes 👍
My 2019 64kWh Kona did 3.2 miles per kWh at 70MPH in 28f freezing fog.
400v Korean cars rock
interesting format, a lot of reading to do though in the video. I'd say if you did this with HVAC on it'd be a great result. But with it off it's rather disappointing. Re-test with HVAC on set to how an average person would use it, i.e. 20 degrees. I think Bjorn's tests all have HVAC set to AUTO and 21C for example. More real world than this test, however the effort is still appreciated.
In that price this result is ok but of course it would be better a 60 kwh in that price to get 186mi./300km in speedway. Because in Spain the limite is 120km/h or 75mi/h.
What are the headlights like? On rural roads
They’re not bad. They are LED lights but I’m planning to get mine re-adjusted as I think the beams should be higher
Interesting… living in Australia, I’d like at least 400 kms of range. Limited charging here, and the occasional 2 or 300 km trip to contend with.
It's getting better - a lot of Ampol and BP stations are being fitted out with fast chargers now. I reckon 250-300km is just fine. I like to take a break every two hours so even travelling at 110km/h I'll be taking a break every 220km.
Amazing that some can still get 5p off peak charging. I've hunted and hunted and the best EV tariff I can find is 12p between midnight and 7am
That's ok, my tariff is 11p off peak and it works out at about £310 for 10,000 miles. I'm not going to lose sleep over that.
12p is fantastic. 5p rates don’t exist anymore unfortunately only early adopters will probably appreciate them more than ever. I’m on the tail end of my fixed rate and will move to 12p afterwards.
Does the car remember all your settings changes between driving sessions?
Everything apart from your driver set up. It reverts to ‘normal’. However, I assume this will be fixed in upcoming OTA updates. Thanks for tuning in😊
Is 70 GPS calibrated? Would be interested in finding out.
It’s 70 on the money 👍
Disappointing range but not surprising, MG etc are not very efficient but I did have high hopes for this new dedicated platform.
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ooh this is important for me to work out if I can get the small or large battery version. So its 5Km per kWhw and I want to be over 300 km range for my EV which means I am going to need the larger 60 kWhw battery to be comfortable. Although it is a lot warmer weather here.
Thanks for tuning in and commenting. What kind of temperatures does your climate range from?
@@stuart_thomas I am in Australia, which the MG M4 will get here, eventually. 40-30oC in summer and 15-10oC In winter.
@@narvuntien nice and toasty! You should get some great efficiency
It was a totally reasonable range... Non-stop for a constant 70mph.
Thanks for your comment Mika. I agree, not bad at all.
150 miles, how long to charge to get another 150 miles? How do you work out your costs as our electricity is 28p per kW? Thanks, doesn't seem to add up
Assume this is the SE? On my 70 mile mostly motorway commute I’m getting 3.5/3.6 m/kWh (eco mode and AC on occasionally) (I have the Trophy LR)
That’s some good figures Mark for the Trophy in the current climate. It’s supposedly the least efficient out of all the models.
Hm, I have an MG5 Long Range (old shape) and definitely expected more range from the MG4. My wife is looking at an MG4 LR for her next EV but it seems like despite the listed range being longer it's unlikely to achieve it.
Hi Richard thanks for tuning in. I don’t think this is too bad for an LFP pack. Your MG4 LR, MG5 models and pretty much all rivals using NMC cells or more energy dense higher discharging cells which don’t require as much heat to become really efficient. Not many EVs hit their WLTP at motorway speeds. I’ve been driving the MG4 in this video around all weekend mixed driving and have been getting close to 3.8 mi p/kWh which is great considering the temperature has failed to break 10c. There’s also a pay off for having rear wheel drive, with the exception of Tesla, most efficient EVs on the market are FWD and of course there’s the price point. it’s definitely a great market right now for buyers with so much choice.
@@stuart_thomas Aaah I didn't realise the MG4 LR was a different chemistry to the MG4 SR. I find with the MG5 LR I can *just* achieve 200 miles in good weather if I baby it (65 or so max), I'd like the MG4 LR to do 220 or so at 70mph!!
Hi, which model of the MG4 do you have?
SE Standard range - thanks
That's 12ppm @ 35p kwh
Ionic hybrid cost 9ppm
Can I ask which battery this was? I've currently got a 28kWh Ioniq and regularly get 5+ miles per kWh at 70mph. Just wondering if it's worth me continuing with my mg4 order if the overall range isn't that much different.
Hi Robert thanks for tuning in. It’s the 50kWh (usable) LFP battery.
The ioniq is incredibly efficient. Is that in today’s temperatures?
@@stuart_thomas yes. I regularly go to my parents house 100 miles away. Can easily do it on one charge...heating or cooling always on. 🤔
@@DopeyDalek that’s superb!
Does anyone know if this is the trophy or SE ?
SE standard
Whatever happened to just getting in a car and going? Not only do you have to plan longer journey's in an EV with military precision to prepare for your lengthy charging stops, do you really need to review/adjust a stack of settings every time you go on a trip?
I think 99.9% do get in their car and drive. This is relatively new for many and some of us like to geek out a bit 🤓
Does any one have any info about the crazy 400bhp version of this car that's supposed to come out.
Unfortunately not. But sounds insane
@@stuart_thomas DEFO!!!
Do note that there is a massive difference between doing 60 and 70. It's because of a thing called back-EMF, the motor starts working as a generator as well as a motor at high revolutions. It's not a linear thing, it starts at about 55 (depending on the gearing) and gets rapidly worse.
I’ve heard about this, counteracting forces generated by itself. I’m intrigued. Why 55ish? Any ideas? Thanks for comment and of course tuning in
@@stuart_thomas Ok, the principle is this.
When an ideal motor (no losses) is stationary, 100% of the power is converted into useful work (moving the car) in the first instant of acceleration. When the same ideal motor [generator] is being turned very fast without power, 100% of the motion is transformed into electricity.
So, it follows that when the motor is turning under power there will be a transition from powering to generating with lots of constants and one variable, rpm.
The maths isn't too bad actually but pretty much all cars have motors of the order of 100kW and whatever gear ratio they all use, plus the generic tyre size - that all cars are roughly similar in terms of their speed constant, torque constant and velocity constant. The upshot is that the brand doesn't matter and that back-EMF tends to become significant over 55 in all cars.
That's the best layman's explanation I can give. A better answer requires formulas (not particularly hard ones though but still)
@@davidmurphy563 thanks David, that’s a great interpretation and very understandable so well done. I wonder what the optimum speed would be for efficiency. I remember hearing Lucid in the states saying it was something like 29mph or similar. It’s very interesting and thanks for taking time to explain it to me. I’m no engineer and would never suggest I am an expert but this stuff is incredibly interesting and I never hear it from other TH-camrs who ‘test’ EVs.
@@stuart_thomas hmmm... Never thought about that.
Your air drag increases as a curve. Your rolling resistance is roughly constantish. Back EMF is worse with speed.
So _maybe_ not pressing the accelerator and letting it creep might be optimal.
Hmm. Huge pinch of salt, I might be missing something big and be entirely wrong but that would be my initial hypothesis.
Plus, you'd avoid losses with the super caps. Yeah, my guess is "as slow as possible on a perfectly flat surface"
@@davidmurphy563 makes sense!
im really interested to know if using the app to preheat the car on cold and damp days if the car;s heat pump does a god job of clearing the windows, particularly the rear especially which has no wiper ?
Pre heating the car should clear everything from the heat generated from the AC. No heat pump on this model.
@@stuart_thomas ah ok apparently the trophy long range which is the one im looking at has a heat pump according to the dealer
@@rpatel9901 MG4 doesn't have a heat pump, at least in the UK/IE (RHD) model. It might have on in the Continental EU, but I'd doubt it given the price.
@@Tom-pl4rw strange as im in the UK and its a UK dealer who has told me that the trophy long rage which im interested in does have a heat pump??
@@rpatel9901 The dealer is wrong...
8:13 *Welcome to the future !*
Range seems acceptable for 70mph motorway miles, remembering that this is the standard range MG4. It works out at almost exactly 10p a mile for those of us on a standard tariff of 33p a kWh, which compares well with an economical diesel that at 60mpg would cost 14p a mile at current diesel prices (1.8812, according to RAC). So, a diesel achieving 60mpg costs 40% more per mile at 70mph than an MG4 charged at home on a standard tariff.
I'll take that, accepting that if my journey is longer than 160 miles then anything over 160 miles would cost up to 30p a mile, if charging at an expensive public Rapid charger, such as an Osprey charger charging £1 a kWh. So, the MG4 SE SR charged on a mixture of standard tariff home charging and the most expensive tariff public charging would cost exactly the same as a 60mpg diesel car over a 200 mile journey. Anything beyond that and the 60mpg diesel would be more economical for that journey.
Of course we know that many 60mpg diesels will not achieve that economy at 70mph and we know that the vast majority of journeys are less than 200 miles and the diesel will be at least 40% more expensive for any journeys less than 160 miles.
If you're going to compare pure fuel costs rather than wanting to drive an ev for environmental or other reasons dont forget to factor in the considerable purchase price premium.
@@bikeman123 There is no purchase price premium for the MG4 SE SR. It costs £25,995, which is over £1,000 less than a diesel VW Golf. Both are five door hatchbacks with similar build quality. The MG4 is faster, more roomy, has more electronic toys and safety features (V2L, ACC, etc., etc.), cheaper to service and better to drive. The only advantages the VW Golf has are badge, range and sound system. The seats are arguably more comfortable, too, but that is subjective.
Some great facts there! Love it. I think there’s so many variables and everyone’s situation is different but it’s also very frugal to be aware of your financial decisions when jumping into an EV. What I love about EVs is you can’t leverage petrol/diesel prices but there’s a lot to work with with energy suppliers both home domestic and public charging.
On the other hand in my Opinion the MG4 drives better than both vw golf and BMW 1 series I’d previously owned. Great conversation!
@@sailingoctopus1 good point. The MG4 does seem to be a bit of a game changer when it comes to purchase price. If looking at things from a pure cost perspective, it seems that EVs are higher insurance group, so more expensive?
@@richardrogersdesigns2683 I'm not convinced EVs are more expensive to insure. It costs £161 for my wife and I to insure our MG5 and £241 for our MG4, which seems pretty cheap. I think the MG4 was more expensive only because, being one of the first to be sold in the UK, it was an unknown quantity.
If it was me and my wife driving that distance at 11 degrees Celsius we would not have got back ,what was the temperature inside the car, If you have to turn off air conditioning - -heating then you will only receive the advertised mileage on a perfect day in day light when it's warm In my opinion that's not good enough.
i would expect minimum 85% from the company range declare
154 miles for £2-40 is point 65p (.65p) per mile. ICE car at 9miles per litre @ £1-64 per litre travelling 154 miles = £27-88 or, 17.8p per mile☹. Didn't do O level maths but this seems about right. More than 27.3 times less expensive then... AND MG4 almost the same price as the equivalent spec new ICE car!
I absolutely get that my figures can be wrong. I'll check it out. Just to say that whatever the actual figure is electric looks radically cheaper than ICE.
Figures miles off, EV with current prices if doing 3miles per kW is around 10p per mile. X 150 =£15 is as an easy figure. Diesel car doing 60mpg at £1.55l = £18 ish. Ev makes no financial sense unless electricity goes down significantly. The range worry in a cold night would be horrible, I looked at a new kia ev6 but the numbers just made no sense with our electricity costs 😢
At start I'm already annoyed touching buttons you have to press twice and it's quite slow
What was elevation change? You should have been using GPS 70mph instead of speedometer 70mph which is inaccurate as with all cars. Were you able to maintain the 70mph for the entire test? Had hoped you may have put on the Wh/km as Bjorn does with all his tests as well at least as an option to your miles per kWh as well. When you had Power Usage up it was in kWh which isn't a measure of power, kW is a measure of power so bit confused, sorry just at the end you mention power used when it's energy used in reality. Sorry I've seen alot of EV tests from many TH-camrs including EV journalists, not trying to be a complainer just confused with some of your video. Good test though, be interesting to see this test in summer in 20-25c temps.
Thanks for tuning in and the comments. Some great suggestions which I always welcome. I agree with some of your points, I think there’s many TH-camrs/journalists who misreport and I love Bjorn’s videos 😊
I use the car speed as it’s good to keep this relative to the consumer. GPS speed vs Car indicated speed will always differ for many reasons and not just tyre size.
There’s so many variables to consider, it’s hard to keep it laboratory controlled condition and I can’t finance that I’m afraid. Even Bjorn’s testing is subjective and doesn’t mean it’s correct that’s just his way, and I’m first to say I like that.
There’s always going to be what if… or shouldn’t you have… it’s best to do in my opinion is a middle ground between data driven information and not confusing the consumer. That’s why my efficiency tests are always done on the same route in both conditions, I try to find a route that covers most bases for the general consumer. Some will exceed this some won’t. I don’t think for example Nordic roads resemble uk roads.
The car tells me as I point out ‘total power consumption’ and ‘driving power’ so if this is incorrect MG have it incorrect too, but I’ll double check it as I don’t like to be factually incorrect. I’ll only report what can’t lie and is in view for the viewer to see.
Thanks again for your comments, i hope you’ll comment again and yes really looking forward to seeing how LFP behaves in the summer months
Being a 70 mph test the result is 152 miles (240 km?) as per the odometer (but it should have been a gps test).
As much as GPS is correct as the crow flies, it's also good to keep this relative to the consumer. There are so many variables and each car is different. If there was an overwhelming request for GPS speed then I'll definitely consider it. Thanks for tuning in and commenting ; )
The car is pretty handsome with techy specs but no rear camera ?
The Trophy model has a rear camera.
It sure is a good looking car. No rear camera on this model but I rarely use the one on my wife’s Tesla M3 which has a higher resolution camera. The lens curvature can be slightly underestimating and prefer the sensors instead. Saying that there’s great 3rd party systems.
I take it your car is the SE SR??
It certainly is 😊
I get 160 at 70 from a 38kwh ioniq
That’s impressive!
Very interesting. Thank you. I would always have the a/c on, but the range here wouldn’t be enough for me as I have a friend who lives 200 miles away. I’m waiting until they build a cheap electric car with a safe 400 mile range, until then I’ll stick with a hybrid.
Thanks Richard. I’d be in the same boat with the AC otherwise I’d get it from the family!!! It could be a very long wait for a 400 mile EV. I think charging will always win over range as the cost of batteries is too high. I’m not sure my bladder would hold up at 200 miles 😂😊
@@stuart_thomas I'd say a 300 mile REAL WORLD range is what I'm waiting for
"as I have a friend who lives 200 miles away" Sure, but how often do you visit them? Adding 50 miles of range at a motorway fast charger would take you 18 minutes at a cost of about £9. If you have to do that once every month or two, it's hardly a dealbreaker. The UK average daily mileage for cars is only 20 miles/day, after all.
On the motorway if you are not bothered about getting there quickly I recommended just staying behind a lorry at a constant 55-60 mph and you'll get more than the miles showing on the trip computer.
Not a good way to drive
With Long Range version in Summer at 55 mph, the result would be Miles apart !
For sure