Great review! I sat in an MG4, along with their other two EVs, and loved the interior of all, nice mix of tactile and touch screen controls. MG4 styling great and just what the EV market needs to kick start the budget to mid range price point customer.
Great review thank you. I actually went to test drive the MG4, but when I arrived I saw a facelift MG5 Trophy with 400 miles on the clock in the showroom. I really liked it straight away and test drove two before finally buying it. Both cars in my opinion are a great EV entry point. I have no regrets so far.
Thanks, that was really useful. We test drive an MG4 yesterday and are seriously considering getting one. The video has also confirmed to me it looks good in white, which is good, because it's cheaper in that colour.
Thank you for taking the time to talk about the infotainment system, I feel like this is an area most other reviews don't touch on too much, and you're the first to talk about the stereo quality! For me it's a small but important detail as I'm looking at getting an MG4 but will be transitioning away from a car with Bose speakers. So to hear the MGs are still decent is reassuring.
Hi I may be wrong but I think there's an update that sorts the lane assist out on the MG 4. I was only talking about it yesterday to our local MG dealer. Might be worth giving yours a call. Great video just to add, all MG EV's are good value for money
Thanks Simon. You’re quite correct and mines booked in for next week along with a general check-up. Couldn’t agree more. They’re pushing the benchmark for quality and value
Good review, I had a test drive recently and really enjoyed and surprised by how sharp the handling and performance was! Thinking about buying one although I would ideally love the Ioniq5 but for the massive price difference. This is very impressive for the price
Hi Stewart, thanks for your MG4 review. You mentioned that your previous car was a Model 3 - can I ask why you decided to switch to the MG4? Which do you prefer? Many thanks
Agree with everything you say about MG in terms of quality and comfort. I went to pick up my new MG5Trophy and the dealer had an MG4 in the showroom, the first I’d seen. Very tempting... but did stick with the 5 and absolutely love it.
Merci Thomas pour votre retour d'expérience très intéressant et positif,Pour ma part j'ai commandé ma MG4 standard que je devrais réceptionnée en principe au mois de janvier. Longue vie à vos essais. désolé de m’être exprimé en français, mais c'est aussi un message de soutien en votre honneur. Cordialement.
I have the same SE base model and agree it's a great car for the price and reminds me of my boy racer days but for me it was a Renault 5 Turbo. The only thing I find is visibility out the back is not great and when you are reversing at night I'm not happy with not seeing much and having to depend on the proximity sensors, would have been happy to pay the extra for the reversing camara. I did think not having a rear wiper would be a problem but you can't see a lot our of there anyway so don't miss it much. Only done one long trip where I've used fast chargers and only got max charging rate of 48kW but guess that the temperature was a bit cold at the start of November at charger I had a Tesla parked next to me charging at 130kW but it just means you can savor you coffee and cake. Changed to this car after a 9 month wait for a Trophy MG ZS and I'm very glad I did, think I would have had the higher specked model if it had been available and wondering if I should put an order in for one now. I don't mind the lane keeper assist and some times enable it with ACC when on the fast roads but wouldn't use it on slower roads. Great car great price even my petrol head brother was impressed, for me there is no going back to ICE I just love the way these cars drive.
Couldn’t agree more with you. I loved the Renault 5, will be great to see the electric one soon. MG4 is a great car. I’ve experienced the rear view camera on the ZS EV and having a Tesla M3 which also has a rear camera (and no wiper), the resolution/quality level is miles apart which is why I wasn’t too fussed about missing out on a reversing cam. Plus, I trust the sensors. What state of charger were you when at 48kW? I jumped in a 1 year old Audi A3 30 yesterday and although I have no issue driving an ICE car, the whole gear box and start button seems very yesterday and inconvenient. I also couldn’t believe how the interior finish was no better than the MG4, I think MG have done a fine job! Thanks again for tuning in and commenting 😊
@@Mickster428Have you been able to order it? I took the trophy for a test drive but it needed more grunt to get me out of my golf R. The fast version would do that so I'm waiting for it to be released.
Thanks for the insightful video, Stuart. We have an MG4 trophy on order (can't wait!!) - one question - do you miss the rear screen wiper? I was surprised it didn't have one, but since ordering ours I've noticed that many new cross-overs etc. don't have one either (Tesla Model Y case in point) - are the aerodynamics really good enough to keep the rear screen clear, or is is simply a cost-saving?
Thanks for tuning in and the great question. I think it’s a bit of both. Most new SUVs and hatchbacks having in my opinion very poor visibility through the rear window. Many cars now have 360/rear cameras and obvs sensors to cover bases. I’ve been used to the Tesla model 3 without a rear wiper for nearly 3 years. Apart from the very odd occasion (heavy rain while reversing) it’s not an issue but I can understand that it may be a cause for issue for others. There is some sprays you can apply to help it bead off quickly. Once you’re up to speed or have pre-heated on a cold morning any obstacles disappear quickly. I hope this helps you. Thanks again for tuning in.
The MG4 rear looks too raked for aero to keep the rear glass clear (it worked on my old RX7, but it had a far longer / flatter rear window). The reason for removing the rear wiper is less about cost-saving (as I understand it), and more about aero - smooth air flow *leaving* the car has a far bigger impact than good aero at the front of the car... and the rear wiper is a major element in messing up that smooth air-flow.
Thanks for commenting. Tough decision. The nicer seats and 360/rear camera are great and of course the NMC battery Chem in both is great for charging too. As we have a model 3, price came first, but I don’t regret going for the entry model.
Just got my Mg4 long range today. Bloody great car. Worth every penny. Now im sure i read somewhere that you can use finding the car horn and light when looking for your car in a full car park.But i cant find it. Anyluck with finding that??
Great review, I took delivery of a SE LR last week, but had to order floor mats and a type II charge cable, as these are options. Not a big deal, but worth remembering. Also one of my worries was the lack of rear wiper, however the aerodynamic of the vehicle are such that once you hit 60MPH the flow of the air seems to blow the rain off the rear window. Agree with Stuart, saving the user preferences for driving mode, lane assist would be really handy. Let's hope a OTA software update fixes it.
I’m excited to receive mine. I’m going from the Nissan Leaf e+ Tekna to the MG4 Trophy and i’m really looking forward to delivery in October. I was a bit nervous because my Leaf is amazing albeit it’s handling around corners is rather slippy, but watching this review a month on has me very excited indeed! I am however going to miss the Leafs Bose sound system and subwoofer!
Oh yes, I would also miss that sound-system, Ruthie. You will love the MG4 it’s a great car with great handling and the Trophy has the NMC larger battery which is excellent. I wish you all the best and hope there’s no delays for you 😊
Good review, you are so correct about Driver Presets, drives me mad programming the car with my preferences every time I drive it. If they dont change this, I would not buy another.
Is it possible to set the driver's seat via the App? Is there aemory setting for the driver's seat? I only ask as my MG4 is due to arrive next month and as I am 6ft 2 and my wife is 4ft 11, having a driver seat memory function would be fantastic. We have ordered the Long rand Trophy edition.
I'm glad I'm not the only one annoyed at the fact that the custom settings are not kept in memory and that the lane assist is really irritating, especially with the cruise control which sometimes feels like it's trying to drive you off the road but other than that agree 100% with your assessment. I've had mine for a month now and I love it. Now if only the charging infrastructure was a little more reliable...
Very pleased with the MG4 Long Range Trophy to date. Agreed with all positives in video. Would have liked a USB socket in the rear facing mirror base for my front facing camera and some lighting in back of car, but these are minor items.
Could you tell me is there camping mode / utility mode if you want to sleep in the care? I really want to get one, but this mode for the car to sleep in is a must for me!
Unfortunately there isn’t a dedicated ‘mode’ for camping. However if you can leave something heavy on the drivers seat I do believe this will stop the car shutting down (but I’m not 100% sure)👍
@@stuart_thomas This is really big bummer. Well im going to test drive one and really need to test it out. If leaving something heavy on drivers seat fixes it it is a "fix", but still kinda bummer for me.
I am looking to lease one of these, I was considering pcp because of the claimed 7 year warranty.....but I have been advised this maybe a diminishing warranty, whereby its full warranty for 12m but gradually the warranty covers less? If this is wrong please let me know.
@Stuart Thomas Hi, I downloaded the MG 7 year warranty and I can confirm it is a diminishing warranty. The 7 year only covers paint and a manufacturing default. In fact in the small print some parts are only for 12months and most parts are 36months. So would definitely be leasing if I get one. Hope that helps everyone, Rob
Hi, thanks for this review. Just ordered a MG4 Essence (in NZ same as the Trophy I guess with the 64 battery and extra tech) for my wife. A couple of things of concern is the fact the use the NMC battery instead of LFP, which is odd when the base model uses it - rather interesting decision by MG. I would've thought using LFP would be a better selling point across the range. Secondly, with regards to interior lighting for the back seats - would putting in brighter interior lights in the front help illuminate the rear? Also in your photo of the interior at night with the blue ambience lighting, is that standard or something you added yourself? Thanks.
Congrats on your order. LFP is fantastic but has lower charge/discharge cycles. The biggest benefit of NCM chemistry is charging speeds. Without sophisticated preheating like on a Tesla, it wouldn’t make sense using LFP for a larger battery. It just wouldn’t be ‘future proofing’ the model. Trophy/Essence will achieve 140kW charging speeds even at higher state of charge like 50%. On the subject of lighting, you can install brighter LEDs in the front, but it would still struggle to illuminate the rear of the car. The ambient lighting I have is just an LED set run from the 12v socket in the front. You can see me fit these in my festive gift challenge. Many thanks for tuning in
Great review Stuart! I particularly liked your screen/software review, very few reviewers give any time to this. I’d like a vid simply covering ALL the software/screen/app workings. I find it’s important to know what is available and what the car can do, rather than finding out months down the line that some bugbear I had with the car could have been sorted via the settings 😮. Looking forward to more 👍🏻
Thanks Bud, really appreciate your feedback it really helps the me and channel. If you do have a specific question let me know as I’m doing a Q&A video to address specific interests on the vehicle 👍
Driver assists in the SE spec are fine. Trophy has the additional aids which are very temperamental but to be honest all EVs have the same issue, ioniq 5 was worse in my opinion
What I miss in either ranges is the powered tailgate. What I miss from the standard range is the reverse camera and side sensors. What I want in the trophy range is the LFP battery (which is weird but I intend on plugging the V2L to my house Solar and being an additional battery for my house)
Thanks for tuning in and question. It doesn’t yet, but OTA software updates could change that however, none of the current MG range has one pedal so I’m not overly confident
I test drove the trophy and really liked it but the one thing that put me off a bit of an inverter whine around the 45-55mph which was high pitched and quite annoying but I didn't know if it was just the vehicle I drove or just present on all cars. Has anyone else experienced something similar? Or did I get a dud?
Inverter whine is what comes with EV's, check out the latest video from Formula E here on YT, they will give you an idea of how they sound, some are worse then others :) th-cam.com/video/7Xmo1UfzcJQ/w-d-xo.html I quite like it.
I didn't check a single thing when I collected mine, probably should have! Just drove it away. But I agree, amazing quality all round. Only thing I don't like is the lack of a rear wiper. Mad for the UK.
Thanks for commenting and totally agree. I think most do this. I actually collected mine before the words ‘oil’ and ‘undertray’ was a thing, looking for scratches and cosmetics. Yes, wiper is a shame but you get used to it. I’ve come from a Tesla model 3 so used to it for so long I wouldn’t know what to do with it 😂
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I never use the rear wiper on our passat. What are you looking at out through the back? I sort of never look there. On motorways I can still see lights through the dirt. Other than that I see no use for it. Also towing caravans makes you comfortable only using the side mirrors.
I watched a review of the Honda E - did you see what they did?! They swapped in cameras instead of mirrors! Genius idea - lowers profile around the car & means no limitation on rear view. A premium, but brilliant idea!
The only problem with the MG4 is that there is no heat pump. Like you said the LFP battery really suffers in cold weather . I’m disappointed MG did not even add an option for a heat pump in the car to improve efficiency.
I agree, any car considered for the northern hemisphere should have it as standard or as an option. I think there’s a few things MG have scrimped on to find value in the product which should least be optional.
@@cathalwalker3308 yes, I’ve ordered one here in France and it’s clearly listed in the standard specifications. It’s the Trophy model. It’s called ‘Luxury’ here but the specs are identical to the Trophy in UK. I doubt MG have country by country specs that differ.
No. I would miss the 0-60 in 4sec but the MG does a lot of stuff I appreciate more better, like a better ride around the city surfing potholes and speed bumps and a really quiet cabin on the motorway. But model 3 is a fantastic car
I agree about the fact that your custom settings are not stored, hopefully sorted after an update. I would your feedback on the fact that the driving mode can only be changed using a menu on the screen and not using a knob or button. Thoughts?
As long as you have a mapping app which works on the infotainment screen you should be able to send charging location on your MG app to the chosen mapping app and that should appear in the app on your infotainment screen. It should definitely work with Apple Maps and google maps👍
Thanks for tuning in. All the traffic assists aren’t great I’m afraid. TJA isn’t too bad at slow speed and also is useful on motorways (where bends are gradual) but it needs some work to be a finished product yet.
Thanks for this video i would ask, how far have found you can go on a single full charge, and have you struggled to find charging points how long doe sit really take to charge either at home or at charge points, or is there a difference from at home or out and about ,thanks again ,
Hi Peter. My car has a useable 50kWh battery pack. The long-range 61.7kWh. I usually get at least 140-160 miles on a full charge. Although i do road trips and use public charging (which I have had no issues with (even some free charging)) 95% of my charging is done at home. It's no more than £6 to charge my car from empty to full although I don't think I often ever have a whole charge to replenish. Home charging is the most convenient and can be done overnight or in the day when you're busy sleeping or working and can be as cheap as 12p p/kWh and public charging can start from 28p p/kWh up to as much as £1 p/kWh although the cost usually represents the power of the charger but I'd say on average most ultra-fast charging is in the 70-90p realms. Although it's not very often that you replenish the whole battery, maybe 60% (20-80%). There are subscription models which can alleviate charging costs substantially if you do the miles or don't have home charging. Public charging does have its challenges but as someone who quoted me, 'it's better today than yesterday'. Hope that helps
Do you get the vehicle to load adaptor with the car? If not where do you get it how much is it? This video was 4 months old did any update sort any of the issues?
Hi Dave thanks for tuning in. No V2L with the vehicle, you can buy official MG ones for £140ish but there’s many 3rd party ones online for £90. I paid around £90 for mine but it’s no longer available new. Just keep an eye on the max load, mine’s 2.2kWh but you can go all the way up to 7. I’ve only had 2 updates, I think the SE model seems to have escaped many of the software bugs which have been most present on the Trophy. They run different software versions as the Trophy has more pre installed functions and safety add-one but no issues with mine
Hi Stuart. Could you confirm if the Aircon can be used in eco mode please. I was under the impression that it can't be used in eco but someone on the mgev forum said it can be switched on in settings whilst using eco. Thanks... Mark
I'm also (soon) going from a Model 3 to the MG4. Does the MG4 Trophy have the following - LFP battery (hope so), the equivalent of the Tesla phone-key for auto locking/unlocking, frequent over the air software updates, speed limit recognition which automatically reduces speed when the speed limit drops, voice commands, a glass roof (I hope not), or a blindspot warning system? Also, I hear the regen sadly doesn't allow one-pedal driving (like the Tesla does) - how do you find the regen? Thank you.
Hi Phil, Thanks for tuning in. Trophy model only comes with the NMC battery but it’s great and will charge like a Tesla! Great news the car does have speed recognition, no glass roof (acoustics are fantastic) and you can use your phone as a key. However, even with the SE model just having the key on your person is enough to enter and drive. One pedal driving is missing but I actually like it as the model 3 is aggressive and passengers hate this, MG4 just delivers a great ride, drive and spritely acceleration and choice of adaptive or 3 levels of regen is a nice touch. For example, I’ll reduce it when I have passengers but use full when I’m solo. Car does feature voice commands but it is hit and miss, I hope OTA updates may resolve this and including one pedal driving in future but we’ll see. OTA updates haven’t rolled out yet and all mine were completed at my nearest dealership (not the one I purchased from). It’s definitely worth a test drive.
@@stuart_thomas many thanks for this info. I'm waiting for the car to launch in Australia and no specifications are available yet. Do you know when the 800 volt version with faster charging will be released?
How about that squared off steering wheel, does it not bump over your hands if you do a complete turn. Are the software updates over the air, as that could be prone to hacking. My car requires a physical SD card plugged in to update. I can then decide to update or not. Sometime updates are detrimental, and you can lose stuff. In my car for the last update owners on forum said they lost sat nav speed camera warnings, so I did not update.
It’s a great steering wheel. I’m not a fan of conventional stuff and it’s nice to seeing it filter into other vehicles. It could be a little smaller though. The car is designed to receive OTA updates but as of so far I’ve had one manually from the dealership. The car has its own data connection for the updates which the app also uses for connecting to the vehicle for preheating etc Updates are always risky but they generally (especially in EVs) make the car better so I’m all for it.
Great video Stuart. I'm waiting a standard range also white! One question: has de car a sim car wich allows it connect with MG ISMART? in other words, can you preheat the car at morning, beeing at home, from the app? or you must be next to the car. Thanks!!
Thanks Mario and congrats on your white MG4. I wasn’t 100% sure about this however, I turned off Bluetooth, Wi-Fi and moved well away from the car and was able to use all the functions in the app
Does the MG4 have battery thermal management (cooling) ? I know in hot climates a lack of thermal management is a big issue with the Nissan Leaf in places like Australia !
It’s does have thermal management. Unfortunately, cars like the Leaf, to keep costs down decided on air cooling which isn’t the end of the world but if you DC charge or road trip, or like your example live in a hot climate it takes its toll. Even today’s latest model is still air cooled. Fortunately, I’d say most mainstream brands all use battery cooling and intelligent BMS for protection etc
Thanks for tuning in Paul and the great feedback. I will do a deep dive on the infotainment soon. Funnily enough, my MG4 was in the dealership this week for a check up and I asked if they would update the software and apparently when they entered my reg into the system there’s wasn’t an update available for it. So not 100% if MG are definitely rolling it out properly yet. Thanks again
I have a white Trophy on order, it will be my first EV, I hope it will be ok as I am quite fussy with my cars doing the things it says it will do, correctly.
I’m sure it will be just fine. Might be worth ringing the dealership and asking for another test drive and take your time with it and relax behind the wheel, maybe take it to a charger etc
Hi Stuart. Thanks for the video. We are looking to order exactly the same White SE SR in January. Just a few questions if you wouldn't mind. Firstly what electricity provider/tariff and charging schedule do you use? We are with Octopus and would probably be looking at Octopus Go giving 4 hours off-peak charging. Secondly, what was the insurance price like? I understand that EV car insurance is likely to be more expensive. Lastly, are there any restrictions on the remote cabin pre-heating? Does it have to be plugged in, does it depend on how much charge the battery is sitting at. Any help would be greatly appreciated Thanks.......... Mark
Hi Mark, thanks for tuning in and the comment. I to use octopus and utilise their ‘Go’ tariff which for the most part is sufficient to charge the car. If you get the SE standard range spec you can charge to 100% regularly which helps with planning your drive each day/week. In terms of insurance, it really depends on many factors ie what car are you comparing it too or what other EVs are you comparing to etc. I moved from a VW touran and it was like for like cost wise but I also know as i got mine very early there was little insurers to choose from. No issues with preheating the cabin. If it’s plugged in the car will not use it’s battery for the energy but it will if it’s not plugged in. I do believe this is available as long as the battery doesn’t go under 20%. I hope this helps😊
@@stuart_thomas Thanks Stuart. I'm 55 with full no claims and currently drive a 2016 Kia Sportage diesel. If it could be like for like that would be great but I could live with a slight increase. The thing that confuses me with Octopus Go is that the day time tariff is a lot higher so it seems like you are sacrificing that for the 4 hours at the reduced rate. Perhaps we could run washing machine, dryer etc during the reduced hours to off-set it. Anyway, thanks for replying. We hope to have a final test drive next Friday and then if deposits and part ex all add up we should be good to go. Cheers.... Mark
Unfortunately, unless you’re lucky with a pre-existing fixed energy tariff it will be a good trade off of you will be charging regularly. A 40-60kW bill will cost a lot on most day-time tariffs. We squeeze all our expensive usage at night and it works well😊 good luck with your test drive, make sure you take your time and try everything and do everything 👍
@@stuart_thomas Hi Stuart. Based on Octopus Go's 4 hours cheap rate, how much charge can you put in on a home wall charger in that time. So if the car had 50% charge left, could you recharge to 100% on those 4 hours or is it faster/slower than that at 7.4kW. Thanks...... Mark
@@undecided25 hi Mark, the SE standard on board AC charger maxes out at 6.4kw. So you should be able to achieve 50% charge in that window. Long range battery charges up to 11kw but realistically most will have a 7kw charger at home so you’d be charging 40% battery
Thanks. What were your experiences during the colder days in December, considering you have the most affordable version without the large battery, heated seats and heated battery pack? The price increase to go to comfort (faster charging, longer range) is +3k euro (faster charging, and most luxuous is +6k euro (heated battery, seats and steering wheel) where I live.
Hi Basjan thanks for tuning in and the comments. I actually wanted the SE long range initially then I went for LFP as I was able to get it in a week instead of 4 months and for me it didn’t really effect my use case. Even with LFP and a smaller battery in winter I drive it like a normal car , 70mph and have the heating on high (especially if the wife is in the car) and the charging curve is great so no issues with charging. 140-150 miles in winter is plenty in the UK, I normally have a battle with my bladder by the tail end lols
Just a quick question, have you ever experienced any rattling or squeaking noise inside while driving? Thinking about buying one, but we had bad experience with Dacia Duster, it was a super car, but around the radio, there was this rattling sound coming from the dashboard, which drove us crazy. Service couldn't fix it, and we ended up changing the car a year on.
@Stuart Thomas Thanks for the answer! We just went and tried one out on Saturday in Dublin and put down the deposit right away, we'll have it sometimes in the summer. It was so fun to drive, and we can't wait to have it. We have a Kia Soul, which we completely love. I hope we'll love this one the same.
A shame the RHD don't get a heat pump (maybe they put it where the RHD stuff is). A couple of ergonomic questions: 1. How is the window arm rest height (the sill and the actual armrest). This varies of course on where you set the seat /steering wheel heights and your height. 2. Room in the footwell (I have big feet) and are there left & right foot rests? 3. How good is the fresh air vent? It looks small and low down. Can you direct air up to the top of your head? 4. If you fold the back seats down do they go flat (usually requires lifting the seat base) and is it flat right through, or a lip where the seats are? Is there a lip at the boot entrance?
Hi Bill, thanks for tuning in and commenting. It is a big shame about lack of heat pump. The UK should have these for sure and last 8 weeks are good example. The tests for arms are pretty good (for me anyway, I’m 5ft 8” but small legs taller torso😊). Lots of room at the pedals but always worth checking yourself beforehand. Air vents are generally good and don’t find any issues. Of course the summer will be a good test also. There is a lip when you fold the rear seat. I’ll demonstrate on my next MG4 video soon. I hope that helps
Hi Ashley, thanks for tuning in and the question. I do still have the M3. We had a VW Touran Tdi (7-seater) as a second car and long distancer if required. We used the M3 for everything, road trips, holidays, short journeys… When used prices were off the scale it seemed the right time to sell the touran. So I bought the MG4 to replace it. We’re all in on electric. Bizarrely, we drive the MG4 everywhere now, never would have thought that!!!
seriously tempted at getting one of these to replace my B class in September. been looking to get an electric car for a while but the cheap ones all seemed too... well cheap. this seems amazing for the price. Subbed, as I have been binge watching your vids on the car. :p
Thanks for tuning in and the great comments it’s greatly appreciated! It’s a great car to consider. I’ve tested a few cars now on my channel (I have the Kia Niro EV this weekend) and I keep comparing everything to it as it really is a benchmark at this price point. It’s not the perfect car, but it’s bloody good 👍
If you can charge at home I don't think you can go wrong with the MG4 as a start into EV ownership. If I wasn't already loving my e208 I'd be seriously looking at the MG4 as it's even better value without compromising. The app looks waaay better as well.
Don't mind not having a Start button, but I wish it had a Stop button. I hate having to get out of the car with everything lit up and radio on. Most people won't relate to this, but we never lock our car at home, as there's no need where we live, so it annoys me that I have to fumble for the keys and lock it after I get out of the car. The alternative is to fumble through the menus to turn the car off, but that option doesn't work most of the time for some reason.
good family car (not roomy enough to be taxi) for the price conscious if you don't need to buy an SUV plus theres a decent warrantee, I believe . If MG sort the software out on screen and put a rear interior light then it stands up as a very good entrance into maybe your first ev PS good pitch Mr thomas
limited as a DI CAR has AUTO BOX , that leads into but with a lesser importance to fleet The only manuals at present are high end , porshce taycan and the new audi , both cost around £ 120,000 each
Great car, and very useful review! Thank you very much! 👏👏 I have couple questions, if you can help me: when you use the adaptative cruise control in the city, and you have a vehicle in front of you and you both come to a red light, the first vehicle stops and then I think that your MG stops right behind it. When the light changes to green, does your MG reiniciate automatically, or you have to press the "gas" pedal? I own a Volkswagen Golf 7, and if the vehicle that is in front of me takes less than three seconds, my car begins automatically. If the other vehicle is stopped more than 3 seconds, I have to press "RES" in the steering wheel or acelerate a little bit. Also, if the car is steering for you on the road and you take your hands off from the steering wheel, how many seconds does the car drive before telling you to take the steering wheel? My Volkswagen only drives 13 seconds, and then I have to drive, or the system disengages. Thank you very much, ant please excuse my English, as I am from Spain 😉
I'd say MG4 is identical as your Golf 7 in every way you have described, it's literally identical. Great English too! Wish I could say the same for my Spanish ; ) And thanks for tuning in and the great comments
@@stuart_thomas Thank you very much for the information, as I could not find answer to my doubts in any other TH-cam video 👏👏 Then, it seems that the new MGs are very nicely equipped, as I was afraid that they could have skimped/saved in some safety/convenience features 👍👍 Thank you very much again, and continue enjoying the car 😁😁
Yet to experience all these positives as my first MG4 failed PDI. Looking forward for the second try. Would like to see they can incorporate the V2L inside of the vehicle as an addition.
V2L is already included cause here I have seen someone building his own V2L adapter for small money and was able to charge a car, a Aiways 5 or a grinder or big saw and also via a detour the house by using the V2L to run a bench power supply with 60V DC that flowed into a small 600W usual solar panel inverter connected to the grid. There is no chance to synchronise the V2L sine wave to the grid therefore the detour. Yes, a huge amount of losses but better you have such solution with even high losses than having no power at all. This means the high voltage DC will be transformed to 230V AC and then runs through the V2L connetctor into the bench supply to be converted to 60V DC, from where it will be fed into the inverter to be converted into 230V AC Each time you read the word converted you can add a loss of 10% and so you might expect 70% at max arriving in the house but 70% of 2300 W out of a 51 kWh is still a lot more than anyone else usually has in case of a black out or grey out or what so ever. The cable is sold by MG for about 400€ or more but it costs a fraction to build such cable. Just the plug, the cable, a resistor and 3 x 230V plug was needed among ferrules and some other smaller pieces. I guess less than 75€ incl. VAT
Hey Stu, Another great video! It’s funny the things manufacturers do - dropping the central light does look like a bit of a screw up! I liked your solution! Also, the lack of mats is a bit annoying, but obviously easily fixed - and at the price, well - can’t really complain. When ours arrives it will be our first EV. I’d be very interested in a couple of video comparisons - ICE vs EV - pros and cons & MG4 vs Tesla. The 2nd is more just out of curiosity. I hope there’s an Over the Air update to provide ‘save’ functionality for driver custom settings - a funny miss by MG! I guess we have a lot to thank Tesla for in paving the way for this type of EV. Congrats again on your great content. Best of luck with the channel & looking forward to ours eventually arriving.
Hi Graham, congrats on taking a leap into EV life. When's delivery? Yeah, I agree, a few oddities but for the most of the issues nothing software updates can't fix. That's probably one positive to EVs, the car will get better. Definitely an MG4 vs Tesla M3 video coming very soon, probably over Christmas. There's some great comparisons, essentially you're also comparing a new EV vs one which has been on the UK roads for nearly 4 years and a couple more in the US and yes, Tesla were the first disrupter and their philosophy behind what driving and using a car should be like is revolutionary. It's a great idea to compare vehicles, hard to compare EV vs ICE, there's just so many variables unfortunately, if it was MG ZS vs ZS EV that would be better in terms of apples for apples. Even though we have gone all EV now, I do step into ICE vehicles which included a new Audi A3 yesterday and I couldn't get over how this premium brand was using components which in my opinion were no better than MG4 and don't get me started on gears and a clutch ; ) Thanks so much for tuning in and your support for the channel it does really mean the world.
@@stuart_thomas Coming from a model S another pro over the Tesla is the panels actually align properly. When one car is £88k and the other mid 20's its hard to see why the cheap one can get it right when the other couldn't. The Tesla was a lot faster, had a lot more space and was quieter and more comfy. Its a lot larger car so I think those are pretty much given. It certainly was not worth 3-4 times as much as one of these. One big tick I can give Tesla is the chargers. I never worried about range and almost never planned where to charge before leaving. I sent the Tesla back because I couldn't live with the constant problems and went plug-in hybrid because I now do very little mileage day to day but with the odd 300+ mile jaunt in there. No point having a large battery I'm only going to use a few times per month.
@@siraff4461 I love the model S. I did Cinderord flooring at second hand one with free charging but they’re still out of my price range but I have been lucky enough to drive a couple, one of the occasions was a for a few days while my wife’s model 3 was in the workshop having the glass roof, centre console and a camera replaced lols. But yes, it’s a lot of money when you compare apples with apples etc
Thank you, a good honest review. So many "professional" reviewers slate this car, especially when comparing to others which cost 30% more. I.E Cupra Born at £47k vs the MG4 at £26k.
I think as well, when they release updated and larger batteries, they have set the MG4 up so you can change it for the larger batteries and not have to keep buying a new car to get a longer distance range
I currently pay 5p p/kw. This will change to 12p soon as my fixed-term product finishes. 0.12 x 50 (usable battery size) = £6 full charge. Public chargers are anything from mid-20p-£1 p/kw
I’m waiting for mg to iron out all the problems before I consider one. Have you experienced being locked in? Or loss of power when it’s cold? Are you getting any more than 180 mile range due to the cold weather as this seems to be the average? Are you finding it very costly to run when using public chargers?
Hi Dave thanks for watching and the comment. No issues as yet. Haven’t been locked in. Charging at home currently costs be £2.40 for a full charge. I have the standard battery and it’s 25% less efficient in sun zero winter. So I’m looking at 160 miles on a full charge. This battery pack is the LFP chemistry to its fine to charge it to 100%. I do use public chargers, but 90% from home. If I do use one it’s during a long road trip. They can be expensive but there’s lots which are cheaper and some which are free, just use the available apps to filter.
Hi Stuart , Really considering this for the next one and stepping into the EV market.....just one question....how have you found no rear wiper? Does the rear window stay clear via the design ? 🤔
Hi Edward, thanks for tuning in and the question. I have no issue with it. The sensors do a great job for reversing and at speed, rain runs off. You can also buy applications like Rain-X which helps too. It’s very rare I think, I wish I had one.
Hi thank you for your very informative reviews. I have recently ordered the MG4 Trophy but after see many reviews particularly on the dedicated MG4 Facebook platform I am very concerned to say the least. Have you had any of the mentioned issues ? I must say that I am disappointed to here of so many problems Thank you Keith
Hi Keith thanks for tuning in and the positive comments and congrats on your order. It’s a fantastic car, even after 3 months I can’t say too much negative about it. That said, it does have a couple of issues which shouldn’t be on a new car but they will be resolved by the warranty once a couple of parts are finally in stock. I also have a Tesla M3 and I have had more issues with that car than this MG so I wouldn’t worry too much. Being in FB groups have their advantages and places for informative suggestions but it’s also the first place for rants and negativity. Every car has issues in some way shape or form, but I can’t say i haven’t spoken to anyone who doesn’t like this car. Enjoy your new MG4 👍
Hi Stuart thank you for your reassuring reply I feel much more confident about my purchase of the MG4 and now feel good about going ahead with the car. Keep posting your reviews Thank you
Thx for this first Owner-Opinion👍...this helps many out there, who struggle with an Chinese Brand so excellent crafted. My Testdrive about a Month ago left me confused: A great to drive car with a Cupra-Style to love. But the Seats are,for me, too much on the softer site and not suportive enough. And you are right:the LKA is a beast....from the Muppets😉 But i will consider the 4 over the Marvel R...best price wins.
One month is just too soon for an evaluation IMO. That said, I did enjoy the video and kinda wonder why there's no talk of exporting, car seems very competitive. I came of age in the sports car era of the sixties and MG, Triumph, Austin Healy, Porsche were all the rage. It would be nice to see that MG emblem back on the roads here in the USA. I've got an M3 LR and I'm pretty much set for the foreseeable future. With my low yearly mileage this car should see me out just fine. Two years in and it still gives me that new car satisfaction. Just charged up yesterday for 273mi range.
Hi Rick, thanks for tuning in and I’m glad you enjoyed the vid. You’ll be surprised what you can learn about a new car in a month, especially a brand new one to market. That said, I do have a 3-month review coming soon. I too have a M3 LR and it’s a great car and have leased it for 2 and half years, we’re due trade it in at the end of the year. It would be awesome to see MG in the states, we need to get people into these more affordable EVs which can DC charge well and have 200+ miles👍
@@stuart_thomas I normally charge to 265(80%) but at 2am the supercharger was hardly used so it went over the 80 to my preferred setting of 82 or 83, I forget which. I don't think it was a software change. I kinda forgot about that setting cause the station only allows for 80 when busy. Elon is speaking today and we should hear all about the changes to the model 3.
@@Rick9482 easily done and you’re not doing any harm at 2am. It will be interesting to hear the master plan 3. I do have a feeling it won’t be about new products and more about scaling up and making the current offering even more affordable. Every gigafactory is set up for a serious model Y ramp up with the M3 also but mainly Y. I also think the 25k car is model 3 or Y as they could sell it at that price if Tesla wanted to now they’ve mastered the art of product cost management and output.
I'm considering the standard model when it will be available in Slovenia. Could you report on what is your impression about PU steering wheel in comparision to leather wheel. Next and maybe only thing I'm missing in standard version is 3 phase charger. How much miles can you get in 8 hours 16 amp overnight charging on single phase? Thaks for encouraging review!
Hi Joze, thanks for tuning in. Hopefully, it won't be too long before it arrives in Slovenia. The steering wheel is great, as good as the Tesla M3 but I've only had it for a month. What's your common voltage supply? If it's 230 like the UK, you'd be looking at 13.8 hours from 0-100%
I think one serious omission from the SE specification is the lack of heating for the front seats. This is usually standard on even entry level EVs because it saves on having the have the heating on, or on as high, when jumping into the car. Most will be able to live without a heated steering wheel but IMHO heated seats should be obligatory.
@@wrcallar I think it’s better to have them than not. Our Tesla M3 is finally having the heat pump replaced, if it wasn’t for the heated seats we just wouldn’t be able to drive it in this cold snap
Hi Stuart, great video. great job! We pick our SE up on Saturday, I've been following some Facebook threads who say about the 'lane keep assist' being too aggressive and almost causing rear-shunt accidents.. have you experienced any issues, if so, do you keep LKA turned off? Any other newbie owner tips would be much appreciated. Cheers
Hi And thanks for tuning in and the great feedback. I have a SE like you have ordered (i understand you may have got jt now so congrats) and mine is permanently off. So I never have an issue to deal with. If you do want to use lane assist I’d suggest to only use on motorways and activate TJA (traffic jam assist) which seems to manage lane keeping better but if I’m honest, it’s more hassle than it’s worth and adaptive cruise does the job nicely. Once MG manage this better in software I may entertain it. I hope that helps. All the best and congrats with your new MG
I drove 60 miles back from the dealer on a mix of motorway and country roads and the LKA didn't bother me until I got off the A roads - on our little winding roads it either wanted to put me in the middle of the road in the face of oncoming or push me into the boggy shoulder! to sink like a stone. It is quite aggressive and jerky whereas what isn't really even needed is a gentle cut in gradually pushing you (preferably without feeding back to your hands which naturally fight the push as if you hit something!
Just bought this model today and found this video truly reflects my first experience of driving the car.
Thank You for a great guide.
Congrats on your new car. Pleased to hear this video was of help.
Great review! I sat in an MG4, along with their other two EVs, and loved the interior of all, nice mix of tactile and touch screen controls. MG4 styling great and just what the EV market needs to kick start the budget to mid range price point customer.
That’s fantastic- completely agree
In Spain Trophy comes with a heat pump too and it has an optional light coloured interior which in my eyes makes the car brighter Inside.
I don't know why we're not offered the same considering the UK generally has a colder climate.
@@stuart_thomas maybe it has something to do with the car being right hand drive? Just guessing here.
@@bodo9655it’s not that. It’s simply because they think “British can afford to buy it separate”. There’s no real reasoning
Great review thank you. I actually went to test drive the MG4, but when I arrived I saw a facelift MG5 Trophy with 400 miles on the clock in the showroom. I really liked it straight away and test drove two before finally buying it. Both cars in my opinion are a great EV entry point. I have no regrets so far.
Thinking about an MG4 - just been for a test drive - thanks for the positive review - seems like one of many on TH-cam
12 month review our tomorrow
4:05 can you turn down the screen brightness of the center display more? Seem pretty bright!
You sure can and on both screens although they are generally pretty bright. I don’t think the dark cabin helps
Thanks, that was really useful. We test drive an MG4 yesterday and are seriously considering getting one.
The video has also confirmed to me it looks good in white, which is good, because it's cheaper in that colour.
Glad to hear you got behind the wheel. It’s great in all the colours 😊
Thank you for taking the time to talk about the infotainment system, I feel like this is an area most other reviews don't touch on too much, and you're the first to talk about the stereo quality! For me it's a small but important detail as I'm looking at getting an MG4 but will be transitioning away from a car with Bose speakers. So to hear the MGs are still decent is reassuring.
Hi I may be wrong but I think there's an update that sorts the lane assist out on the MG 4. I was only talking about it yesterday to our local MG dealer. Might be worth giving yours a call. Great video just to add, all MG EV's are good value for money
Thanks Simon. You’re quite correct and mines booked in for next week along with a general check-up.
Couldn’t agree more. They’re pushing the benchmark for quality and value
been thinking about getting one of these since I saw the first reviews - this hasn't changed my mind!
Great to hear it Huw
Good review, I had a test drive recently and really enjoyed and surprised by how sharp the handling and performance was! Thinking about buying one although I would ideally love the Ioniq5 but for the massive price difference. This is very impressive for the price
Thanks Noah - I’d love an ioniq 5 too but the price comparison is just miles apart. Might be a great used car in a few years to pick up
Hi Stewart, thanks for your MG4 review. You mentioned that your previous car was a Model 3 - can I ask why you decided to switch to the MG4? Which do you prefer? Many thanks
Agree with everything you say about MG in terms of quality and comfort. I went to pick up my new MG5Trophy and the dealer had an MG4 in the showroom, the first I’d seen. Very tempting... but did stick with the 5 and absolutely love it.
Thanks Bertie. The 5 looks great 👍
big mistake bro :(
Thanks for the reviews-definitely helped me buy one - collect in two days 🤘🏽
Merci Thomas pour votre retour d'expérience très intéressant et positif,Pour ma part j'ai commandé ma MG4 standard que je devrais réceptionnée en principe au mois de janvier.
Longue vie à vos essais. désolé de m’être exprimé en français, mais c'est aussi un message de soutien en votre honneur.
Cordialement.
Thanks for tuning in and commenting Roland. Congrats on your MG4 order, how exciting! I’d love to hear how you get on with it
@@stuart_thomas 👍😍
I have the same SE base model and agree it's a great car for the price and reminds me of my boy racer days but for me it was a Renault 5 Turbo. The only thing I find is visibility out the back is not great and when you are reversing at night I'm not happy with not seeing much and having to depend on the proximity sensors, would have been happy to pay the extra for the reversing camara. I did think not having a rear wiper would be a problem but you can't see a lot our of there anyway so don't miss it much. Only done one long trip where I've used fast chargers and only got max charging rate of 48kW but guess that the temperature was a bit cold at the start of November at charger I had a Tesla parked next to me charging at 130kW but it just means you can savor you coffee and cake. Changed to this car after a 9 month wait for a Trophy MG ZS and I'm very glad I did, think I would have had the higher specked model if it had been available and wondering if I should put an order in for one now. I don't mind the lane keeper assist and some times enable it with ACC when on the fast roads but wouldn't use it on slower roads. Great car great price even my petrol head brother was impressed, for me there is no going back to ICE I just love the way these cars drive.
Couldn’t agree more with you. I loved the Renault 5, will be great to see the electric one soon. MG4 is a great car. I’ve experienced the rear view camera on the ZS EV and having a Tesla M3 which also has a rear camera (and no wiper), the resolution/quality level is miles apart which is why I wasn’t too fussed about missing out on a reversing cam. Plus, I trust the sensors.
What state of charger were you when at 48kW?
I jumped in a 1 year old Audi A3 30 yesterday and although I have no issue driving an ICE car, the whole gear box and start button seems very yesterday and inconvenient. I also couldn’t believe how the interior finish was no better than the MG4, I think MG have done a fine job!
Thanks again for tuning in and commenting 😊
My trophy comes in end of this month
The only thing I’m gutted about is the 400bhp version is coming in the summer,I should have waited 😡
@@thecockneycollector3790 trade in?
@@thecockneycollector3790 I put order in for mg4 trophy for the wife but we just cancelled it we’re waiting for the 450 bhp 4x4 can’t wait
@@Mickster428Have you been able to order it? I took the trophy for a test drive but it needed more grunt to get me out of my golf R. The fast version would do that so I'm waiting for it to be released.
Thanks for the insightful video, Stuart. We have an MG4 trophy on order (can't wait!!) - one question - do you miss the rear screen wiper? I was surprised it didn't have one, but since ordering ours I've noticed that many new cross-overs etc. don't have one either (Tesla Model Y case in point) - are the aerodynamics really good enough to keep the rear screen clear, or is is simply a cost-saving?
Thanks for tuning in and the great question. I think it’s a bit of both. Most new SUVs and hatchbacks having in my opinion very poor visibility through the rear window. Many cars now have 360/rear cameras and obvs sensors to cover bases.
I’ve been used to the Tesla model 3 without a rear wiper for nearly 3 years. Apart from the very odd occasion (heavy rain while reversing) it’s not an issue but I can understand that it may be a cause for issue for others. There is some sprays you can apply to help it bead off quickly. Once you’re up to speed or have pre-heated on a cold morning any obstacles disappear quickly. I hope this helps you.
Thanks again for tuning in.
Ioniq 5 no rear wiper. To answer your question no the rear screen does not stay clean.
A glaring error in my view.
Thanks
Pete
The MG4 rear looks too raked for aero to keep the rear glass clear (it worked on my old RX7, but it had a far longer / flatter rear window).
The reason for removing the rear wiper is less about cost-saving (as I understand it), and more about aero - smooth air flow *leaving* the car has a far bigger impact than good aero at the front of the car... and the rear wiper is a major element in messing up that smooth air-flow.
Thanks for this. Torn between the Trophy and SE Long. Think I’m leaning towards the higher spec Trophy. Who doesn’t want the best of the range!
Thanks for commenting. Tough decision. The nicer seats and 360/rear camera are great and of course the NMC battery Chem in both is great for charging too.
As we have a model 3, price came first, but I don’t regret going for the entry model.
Just got my Mg4 long range today. Bloody great car. Worth every penny. Now im sure i read somewhere that you can use finding the car horn and light when looking for your car in a full car park.But i cant find it. Anyluck with finding that??
Great review, I took delivery of a SE LR last week, but had to order floor mats and a type II charge cable, as these are options. Not a big deal, but worth remembering. Also one of my worries was the lack of rear wiper, however the aerodynamic of the vehicle are such that once you hit 60MPH the flow of the air seems to blow the rain off the rear window. Agree with Stuart, saving the user preferences for driving mode, lane assist would be really handy. Let's hope a OTA software update fixes it.
Does the LR not come with a type 2 charging cable? I’ve just ordered mine, long lead time 🙄
Rain X is your friend
2023 MG4 comes with rear wiper
I’m excited to receive mine. I’m going from the Nissan Leaf e+ Tekna to the MG4 Trophy and i’m really looking forward to delivery in October. I was a bit nervous because my Leaf is amazing albeit it’s handling around corners is rather slippy, but watching this review a month on has me very excited indeed! I am however going to miss the Leafs Bose sound system and subwoofer!
Oh yes, I would also miss that sound-system, Ruthie. You will love the MG4 it’s a great car with great handling and the Trophy has the NMC larger battery which is excellent. I wish you all the best and hope there’s no delays for you 😊
At 9:50 it seems like it has (blue) interior ambient lighting, is this true or not? I cant find it anywhere
That is true, if you check out my accessories video you’ll see me fit the LED kit in the cabin 👌
Good review, you are so correct about Driver Presets, drives me mad programming the car with my preferences every time I drive it. If they dont change this, I would not buy another.
has any of the issues been fixed yet with an update?
Check out my 12 month review
Can you shut off the central screen whilst driving? Great review
Thanks for tuning in. Not sure why you’d want to shut it off, but I’m sure it can go into a standby mode with a clock
Is it possible to set the driver's seat via the App? Is there aemory setting for the driver's seat? I only ask as my MG4 is due to arrive next month and as I am 6ft 2 and my wife is 4ft 11, having a driver seat memory function would be fantastic. We have ordered the Long rand Trophy edition.
Hi Karl I can’t speak for the Trophy model but it’s manual in the SE trim
I'm glad I'm not the only one annoyed at the fact that the custom settings are not kept in memory and that the lane assist is really irritating, especially with the cruise control which sometimes feels like it's trying to drive you off the road but other than that agree 100% with your assessment. I've had mine for a month now and I love it. Now if only the charging infrastructure was a little more reliable...
Indeed. We’ll get there, it has to get better
Very pleased with the MG4 Long Range Trophy to date. Agreed with all positives in video. Would have liked a USB socket in the rear facing mirror base for my front facing camera and some lighting in back of car, but these are minor items.
What’s your range like?
@@robertadams1451 210 mile range but only based on 500 miles driven
Some great points Anthony. Glad to hear you’re pleased with your car. You can never have enough sockets in a car! Especially when you have kids 😂
You didn’t show the boot, this is a bit of a quandary for me. Quite small for a family of 4. Apart from that hood video
Could you tell me is there camping mode / utility mode if you want to sleep in the care? I really want to get one, but this mode for the car to sleep in is a must for me!
Unfortunately there isn’t a dedicated ‘mode’ for camping. However if you can leave something heavy on the drivers seat I do believe this will stop the car shutting down (but I’m not 100% sure)👍
@@stuart_thomas This is really big bummer. Well im going to test drive one and really need to test it out. If leaving something heavy on drivers seat fixes it it is a "fix", but still kinda bummer for me.
Great review, I have been looking at this car. I live across the border from you in Herefordshire.
Glad to hear it was useful for you Julian - not far at all, nice part of the world 👍
I am looking to lease one of these, I was considering pcp because of the claimed 7 year warranty.....but I have been advised this maybe a diminishing warranty, whereby its full warranty for 12m but gradually the warranty covers less? If this is wrong please let me know.
Thanks for tuning in and the question. I’d recommend reading the MG UK warranty on their website for clarification 👍
@Stuart Thomas Hi, I downloaded the MG 7 year warranty and I can confirm it is a diminishing warranty. The 7 year only covers paint and a manufacturing default. In fact in the small print some parts are only for 12months and most parts are 36months. So would definitely be leasing if I get one. Hope that helps everyone, Rob
Hi, thanks for this review. Just ordered a MG4 Essence (in NZ same as the Trophy I guess with the 64 battery and extra tech) for my wife. A couple of things of concern is the fact the use the NMC battery instead of LFP, which is odd when the base model uses it - rather interesting decision by MG. I would've thought using LFP would be a better selling point across the range. Secondly, with regards to interior lighting for the back seats - would putting in brighter interior lights in the front help illuminate the rear? Also in your photo of the interior at night with the blue ambience lighting, is that standard or something you added yourself? Thanks.
Congrats on your order.
LFP is fantastic but has lower charge/discharge cycles. The biggest benefit of NCM chemistry is charging speeds. Without sophisticated preheating like on a Tesla, it wouldn’t make sense using LFP for a larger battery. It just wouldn’t be ‘future proofing’ the model. Trophy/Essence will achieve 140kW charging speeds even at higher state of charge like 50%.
On the subject of lighting, you can install brighter LEDs in the front, but it would still struggle to illuminate the rear of the car. The ambient lighting I have is just an LED set run from the 12v socket in the front. You can see me fit these in my festive gift challenge.
Many thanks for tuning in
Great review Stuart! I particularly liked your screen/software review, very few reviewers give any time to this. I’d like a vid simply covering ALL the software/screen/app workings. I find it’s important to know what is available and what the car can do, rather than finding out months down the line that some bugbear I had with the car could have been sorted via the settings 😮. Looking forward to more 👍🏻
Thanks Bud, really appreciate your feedback it really helps the me and channel. If you do have a specific question let me know as I’m doing a Q&A video to address specific interests on the vehicle 👍
Is there any good news/updates to drive assists or are they still useless?
Driver assists in the SE spec are fine. Trophy has the additional aids which are very temperamental but to be honest all EVs have the same issue, ioniq 5 was worse in my opinion
Hi Stu, which model are you driving? Just hoping it is the Excite 51 because that's the model I'm aiming for.
This is the basic spec. SE standard range in the UK.
What I miss in either ranges is the powered tailgate. What I miss from the standard range is the reverse camera and side sensors. What I want in the trophy range is the LFP battery (which is weird but I intend on plugging the V2L to my house Solar and being an additional battery for my house)
How will that work, extension lead? Does your interter accept an incoming 12V supply?
@@dominicwild3189V2L adapter outputs 240V
Great video ! One particular question: does it have OPD which comes to a stand still without touching the brake pedal?
Thanks for tuning in and question. It doesn’t yet, but OTA software updates could change that however, none of the current MG range has one pedal so I’m not overly confident
Great video, excellent comments, and beautifully filmed and edited. Count me impress.
Thank you so much 🙂
I test drove the trophy and really liked it but the one thing that put me off a bit of an inverter whine around the 45-55mph which was high pitched and quite annoying but I didn't know if it was just the vehicle I drove or just present on all cars. Has anyone else experienced something similar? Or did I get a dud?
Thanks Richard. Not sure if I’ve heard it. TBH, my music’s too loud 😊
Inverter whine is what comes with EV's, check out the latest video from Formula E here on YT, they will give you an idea of how they sound, some are worse then others :) th-cam.com/video/7Xmo1UfzcJQ/w-d-xo.html I quite like it.
Thanks Tom, love mine too but still grappling with making Driving and MG Pilot settings stick... any tips?
Hi Hayder unfortunately No remedy as of yet but I’m hopeful MG will address with so many requests
I didn't check a single thing when I collected mine, probably should have! Just drove it away. But I agree, amazing quality all round. Only thing I don't like is the lack of a rear wiper. Mad for the UK.
Thanks for commenting and totally agree. I think most do this. I actually collected mine before the words ‘oil’ and ‘undertray’ was a thing, looking for scratches and cosmetics. Yes, wiper is a shame but you get used to it. I’ve come from a Tesla model 3 so used to it for so long I wouldn’t know what to do with it 😂
I never use the rear wiper on our passat. What are you looking at out through the back? I sort of never look there. On motorways I can still see lights through the dirt. Other than that I see no use for it. Also towing caravans makes you comfortable only using the side mirrors.
I watched a review of the Honda E - did you see what they did?! They swapped in cameras instead of mirrors! Genius idea - lowers profile around the car & means no limitation on rear view.
A premium, but brilliant idea!
The only problem with the MG4 is that there is no heat pump. Like you said the LFP battery really suffers in cold weather . I’m disappointed MG did not even add an option for a heat pump in the car to improve efficiency.
I agree, any car considered for the northern hemisphere should have it as standard or as an option. I think there’s a few things MG have scrimped on to find value in the product which should least be optional.
I understand the long range versions do have a heat pump as standard
@@philipholloway8687 do you have any information or sources for this ?
@@cathalwalker3308 yes, I’ve ordered one here in France and it’s clearly listed in the standard specifications. It’s the Trophy model. It’s called ‘Luxury’ here but the specs are identical to the Trophy in UK. I doubt MG have country by country specs that differ.
@@philipholloway8687 oh right ok. It’s strange that the longer range version does not have a heat pump. Only the trophy
Sounds good. Would you swap it for your tesla 3?
No. I would miss the 0-60 in 4sec but the MG does a lot of stuff I appreciate more better, like a better ride around the city surfing potholes and speed bumps and a really quiet cabin on the motorway. But model 3 is a fantastic car
I agree about the fact that your custom settings are not stored, hopefully sorted after an update. I would your feedback on the fact that the driving mode can only be changed using a menu on the screen and not using a knob or button. Thoughts?
Set up one of the favourite futons on the steering wheel
Does the MG app, where is shows nearest charging points, work with Apple CarPlay so you can see on the infotainment system ?
As long as you have a mapping app which works on the infotainment screen you should be able to send charging location on your MG app to the chosen mapping app and that should appear in the app on your infotainment screen. It should definitely work with Apple Maps and google maps👍
@@stuart_thomas Thanks bud, got a demo request in for one as it definitely in the top spot at the moment for next car 👍
Brilliant review! I have a question though, have you used the traffic jam assist? Is it good? I'm yet to have a car with this feature!
Thanks for tuning in. All the traffic assists aren’t great I’m afraid. TJA isn’t too bad at slow speed and also is useful on motorways (where bends are gradual) but it needs some work to be a finished product yet.
Thanks for this video i would ask, how far have found you can go on a single full charge, and have you struggled to find charging points how long doe sit really take to charge either at home or at charge points, or is there a difference from at home or out and about ,thanks again ,
Hi Peter.
My car has a useable 50kWh battery pack. The long-range 61.7kWh.
I usually get at least 140-160 miles on a full charge. Although i do road trips and use public charging (which I have had no issues with (even some free charging)) 95% of my charging is done at home. It's no more than £6 to charge my car from empty to full although I don't think I often ever have a whole charge to replenish.
Home charging is the most convenient and can be done overnight or in the day when you're busy sleeping or working and can be as cheap as 12p p/kWh and public charging can start from 28p p/kWh up to as much as £1 p/kWh although the cost usually represents the power of the charger but I'd say on average most ultra-fast charging is in the 70-90p realms. Although it's not very often that you replenish the whole battery, maybe 60% (20-80%).
There are subscription models which can alleviate charging costs substantially if you do the miles or don't have home charging. Public charging does have its challenges but as someone who quoted me, 'it's better today than yesterday'.
Hope that helps
Brilliant reply and thanks so much for taking the time to do such a very long and interesting letter bfn peter from newark.@@stuart_thomas
Do you get the vehicle to load adaptor with the car? If not where do you get it how much is it? This video was 4 months old did any update sort any of the issues?
Hi Dave thanks for tuning in. No V2L with the vehicle, you can buy official MG ones for £140ish but there’s many 3rd party ones online for £90. I paid around £90 for mine but it’s no longer available new. Just keep an eye on the max load, mine’s 2.2kWh but you can go all the way up to 7. I’ve only had 2 updates, I think the SE model seems to have escaped many of the software bugs which have been most present on the Trophy. They run different software versions as the Trophy has more pre installed functions and safety add-one but no issues with mine
Hi Stuart.
Could you confirm if the Aircon can be used in eco mode please. I was under the impression that it can't be used in eco but someone on the mgev forum said it can be switched on in settings whilst using eco. Thanks... Mark
Hi mark, I’d have to double check, I’m sure you can as my 60mph range test was in eco mode with HVAC on👍
Can you use the cameras as a dash cam?
Unfortunately not Bush - unless MG change this in software
I'm also (soon) going from a Model 3 to the MG4. Does the MG4 Trophy have the following - LFP battery (hope so), the equivalent of the Tesla phone-key for auto locking/unlocking, frequent over the air software updates, speed limit recognition which automatically reduces speed when the speed limit drops, voice commands, a glass roof (I hope not), or a blindspot warning system? Also, I hear the regen sadly doesn't allow one-pedal driving (like the Tesla does) - how do you find the regen? Thank you.
Hi Phil, Thanks for tuning in. Trophy model only comes with the NMC battery but it’s great and will charge like a Tesla!
Great news the car does have speed recognition, no glass roof (acoustics are fantastic) and you can use your phone as a key. However, even with the SE model just having the key on your person is enough to enter and drive.
One pedal driving is missing but I actually like it as the model 3 is aggressive and passengers hate this, MG4 just delivers a great ride, drive and spritely acceleration and choice of adaptive or 3 levels of regen is a nice touch. For example,
I’ll reduce it when I have passengers but use full when I’m solo.
Car does feature voice commands but it is hit and miss, I hope OTA updates may resolve this and including one pedal driving in future but we’ll see. OTA updates haven’t rolled out yet and all mine were completed at my nearest dealership (not the one I purchased from). It’s definitely worth a test drive.
@@stuart_thomas many thanks for this info. I'm waiting for the car to launch in Australia and no specifications are available yet. Do you know when the 800 volt version with faster charging will be released?
@@mspalmboy not 100% sure, supposedly in Europe this year but we’ll see
Thanks for posting this… I’ve just ordered one…
Fantastic 👍
How are the high beams for country roads at night?
They’re not bad, although I do think I need to check mine are set correctly as I think they should be aiming higher
How about that squared off steering wheel, does it not bump over your hands if you do a complete turn. Are the software updates over the air, as that could be prone to hacking. My car requires a physical SD card plugged in to update. I can then decide to update or not. Sometime updates are detrimental, and you can lose stuff. In my car for the last update owners on forum said they lost sat nav speed camera warnings, so I did not update.
It’s a great steering wheel. I’m not a fan of conventional stuff and it’s nice to seeing it filter into other vehicles. It could be a little smaller though.
The car is designed to receive OTA updates but as of so far I’ve had one manually from the dealership. The car has its own data connection for the updates which the app also uses for connecting to the vehicle for preheating etc
Updates are always risky but they generally (especially in EVs) make the car better so I’m all for it.
Did they ever update the software to store presets?
My vehicle currently doesn’t have the most recent update, although I’m led to believe this still isn’t an option to save previous preseys
Great video Stuart. I'm waiting a standard range also white! One question: has de car a sim car wich allows it connect with MG ISMART? in other words, can you preheat the car at morning, beeing at home, from the app? or you must be next to the car. Thanks!!
Thanks Mario and congrats on your white MG4. I wasn’t 100% sure about this however, I turned off Bluetooth, Wi-Fi and moved well away from the car and was able to use all the functions in the app
@@stuart_thomas thanks!
Does the MG4 have battery thermal management (cooling) ? I know in hot climates a lack of thermal management is a big issue with the Nissan Leaf in places like Australia !
It’s does have thermal management. Unfortunately, cars like the Leaf, to keep costs down decided on air cooling which isn’t the end of the world but if you DC charge or road trip, or like your example live in a hot climate it takes its toll. Even today’s latest model is still air cooled.
Fortunately, I’d say most mainstream brands all use battery cooling and intelligent BMS for protection etc
Good video sold me on it 👍 has anybody seen one with a tow bar yet or even got some pictures it’s not to tow it’s for a cycle carrier 🤔
Great video. Could you do a follow up when the LKA is updated? Also more detail on infotainment would be lovely! Many thanks
Thanks for tuning in Paul and the great feedback. I will do a deep dive on the infotainment soon. Funnily enough, my MG4 was in the dealership this week for a check up and I asked if they would update the software and apparently when they entered my reg into the system there’s wasn’t an update available for it. So not 100% if MG are definitely rolling it out properly yet. Thanks again
I have a white Trophy on order, it will be my first EV, I hope it will be ok as I am quite fussy with my cars doing the things it says it will do, correctly.
I’m sure it will be just fine. Might be worth ringing the dealership and asking for another test drive and take your time with it and relax behind the wheel, maybe take it to a charger etc
Just had my MG4. Love it so far but very frustration that it forgets driver mode settings when powered off. Looks like this hasn't been fixed yet. :(
We don’t get this car in America. How does it compare to the Mini Cooper SE in the hot electric hatch and handling department??
Mini is definitely more fun, but this isn’t too bad, a bit lighter foot. A set of coil overs would sort that
Picking up my trophy long range today 🤞 I love it too, this video has been very helpful though thanks 🙂
Thanks for tuning in and feedback. Congrats! What colour?
Camden grey, so far so good 👍 really smooth to drive super quick acceleration and build quality is fantastic, feels like a premium car 🙂
How much of a real world issue is not having a rear wiper? How is visibility in rain out the rear?
For me it’s a not a big issue and at higher speeds it clears itself. Having said that so many EVs do not include one in favour of aero
@@stuart_thomas thank for the response 👍
Thank you so much for getting straight to the point! Great review and very insightful!
Hi Stuart. Thanks for the video. We are looking to order exactly the same White SE SR in January. Just a few questions if you wouldn't mind. Firstly what electricity provider/tariff and charging schedule do you use? We are with Octopus and would probably be looking at Octopus Go giving 4 hours off-peak charging. Secondly, what was the insurance price like? I understand that EV car insurance is likely to be more expensive. Lastly, are there any restrictions on the remote cabin pre-heating? Does it have to be plugged in, does it depend on how much charge the battery is sitting at. Any help would be greatly appreciated
Thanks.......... Mark
Hi Mark, thanks for tuning in and the comment. I to use octopus and utilise their ‘Go’ tariff which for the most part is sufficient to charge the car. If you get the SE standard range spec you can charge to 100% regularly which helps with planning your drive each day/week.
In terms of insurance, it really depends on many factors ie what car are you comparing it too or what other EVs are you comparing to etc. I moved from a VW touran and it was like for like cost wise but I also know as i got mine very early there was little insurers to choose from.
No issues with preheating the cabin. If it’s plugged in the car will not use it’s battery for the energy but it will if it’s not plugged in. I do believe this is available as long as the battery doesn’t go under 20%.
I hope this helps😊
@@stuart_thomas Thanks Stuart. I'm 55 with full no claims and currently drive a 2016 Kia Sportage diesel. If it could be like for like that would be great but I could live with a slight increase. The thing that confuses me with Octopus Go is that the day time tariff is a lot higher so it seems like you are sacrificing that for the 4 hours at the reduced rate. Perhaps we could run washing machine, dryer etc during the reduced hours to off-set it. Anyway, thanks for replying. We hope to have a final test drive next Friday and then if deposits and part ex all add up we should be good to go. Cheers.... Mark
Unfortunately, unless you’re lucky with a pre-existing fixed energy tariff it will be a good trade off of you will be charging regularly. A 40-60kW bill will cost a lot on most day-time tariffs. We squeeze all our expensive usage at night and it works well😊 good luck with your test drive, make sure you take your time and try everything and do everything 👍
@@stuart_thomas Hi Stuart. Based on Octopus Go's 4 hours cheap rate, how much charge can you put in on a home wall charger in that time. So if the car had 50% charge left, could you recharge to 100% on those 4 hours or is it faster/slower than that at 7.4kW. Thanks...... Mark
@@undecided25 hi Mark, the SE standard on board AC charger maxes out at 6.4kw. So you should be able to achieve 50% charge in that window. Long range battery charges up to 11kw but realistically most will have a 7kw charger at home so you’d be charging 40% battery
Thanks for the detailed review!
interestingly, what is the MG 4 ground clearance?
Thanks for tuning in and the comment. Not 100% I’m sure it’s on their website. It’s higher than a Tesla model 3😊
@@stuart_thomas Thanks for the answer! Found on the site. But somehow it is not written very clearly. "Ground clearance unladen / laden 150 / 117 mm "
Is it possible to sleep in it like the Tesla 3? I heard you can’t power it down without getting out and locking it
I’m sure you can sleep in it. You can lock from the inside but not sure how it the car alarm system will behave etc
Thanks. What were your experiences during the colder days in December, considering you have the most affordable version without the large battery, heated seats and heated battery pack? The price increase to go to comfort (faster charging, longer range) is +3k euro (faster charging, and most luxuous is +6k euro (heated battery, seats and steering wheel) where I live.
Hi Basjan thanks for tuning in and the comments. I actually wanted the SE long range initially then I went for LFP as I was able to get it in a week instead of 4 months and for me it didn’t really effect my use case. Even with LFP and a smaller battery in winter I drive it like a normal car , 70mph and have the heating on high (especially if the wife is in the car) and the charging curve is great so no issues with charging. 140-150 miles in winter is plenty in the UK, I normally have a battle with my bladder by the tail end lols
Great Videos, just waiting for my MG 4 to arrive at my dealership.
Thanks Martin. What model/col did you go for?
The same base model as you driving habits seem the same as yourself. It's my first ev and I can't wait.
Just a quick question, have you ever experienced any rattling or squeaking noise inside while driving? Thinking about buying one, but we had bad experience with Dacia Duster, it was a super car, but around the radio, there was this rattling sound coming from the dashboard, which drove us crazy. Service couldn't fix it, and we ended up changing the car a year on.
Non at all bab. Only the odd item rolling around in the door bins as they’re not lined with anything. My Tesla m3 rattles more!!!👍
@Stuart Thomas Thanks for the answer! We just went and tried one out on Saturday in Dublin and put down the deposit right away, we'll have it sometimes in the summer. It was so fun to drive, and we can't wait to have it. We have a Kia Soul, which we completely love. I hope we'll love this one the same.
Hi, can you tell me if you can preheat the cars interior while it’s still plugged in and charging. Thanks
Yes you can
A shame the RHD don't get a heat pump (maybe they put it where the RHD stuff is).
A couple of ergonomic questions:
1. How is the window arm rest height (the sill and the actual armrest). This varies of course on where you set the seat /steering wheel heights and your height.
2. Room in the footwell (I have big feet) and are there left & right foot rests?
3. How good is the fresh air vent? It looks small and low down. Can you direct air up to the top of your head?
4. If you fold the back seats down do they go flat (usually requires lifting the seat base) and is it flat right through, or a lip where the seats are? Is there a lip at the boot entrance?
Hi Bill, thanks for tuning in and commenting. It is a big shame about lack of heat pump. The UK should have these for sure and last 8 weeks are good example. The tests for arms are pretty good (for me anyway, I’m 5ft 8” but small legs taller torso😊). Lots of room at the pedals but always worth checking yourself beforehand. Air vents are generally good and don’t find any issues. Of course the summer will be a good test also. There is a lip when you fold the rear seat. I’ll demonstrate on my next MG4 video soon.
I hope that helps
Hi Stu,
I've currently got a M3 too and am looking at options. Interested to know if you've still got your Tesla or if you've switched to this?
Hi Ashley, thanks for tuning in and the question. I do still have the M3. We had a VW Touran Tdi (7-seater) as a second car and long distancer if required. We used the M3 for everything, road trips, holidays, short journeys…
When used prices were off the scale it seemed the right time to sell the touran. So I bought the MG4 to replace it. We’re all in on electric. Bizarrely, we drive the MG4 everywhere now, never would have thought that!!!
Hi, Did they ever fix the software bugs were your preferences arent saved?
Really good video, very clear thanks :)
What was the realistic range Vs what it estimates
It depends how you drive, road types, speed. The estimated range will always adjust but based on previous driving.
seriously tempted at getting one of these to replace my B class in September. been looking to get an electric car for a while but the cheap ones all seemed too... well cheap.
this seems amazing for the price.
Subbed, as I have been binge watching your vids on the car. :p
Thanks for tuning in and the great comments it’s greatly appreciated! It’s a great car to consider. I’ve tested a few cars now on my channel (I have the Kia Niro EV this weekend) and I keep comparing everything to it as it really is a benchmark at this price point. It’s not the perfect car, but it’s bloody good 👍
If you can charge at home I don't think you can go wrong with the MG4 as a start into EV ownership. If I wasn't already loving my e208 I'd be seriously looking at the MG4 as it's even better value without compromising. The app looks waaay better as well.
Don't mind not having a Start button, but I wish it had a Stop button. I hate having to get out of the car with everything lit up and radio on. Most people won't relate to this, but we never lock our car at home, as there's no need where we live, so it annoys me that I have to fumble for the keys and lock it after I get out of the car. The alternative is to fumble through the menus to turn the car off, but that option doesn't work most of the time for some reason.
Ha ha I see your point. I’m used to a Tesla which locks automatically when you walk away. Have you used the button on the door handle when you leave?
@@stuart_thomas Didn't know about that one. I'll give it a go.
good family car (not roomy enough to be taxi) for the price conscious if you don't need to buy an SUV plus theres a decent warrantee, I believe . If MG sort the software out on screen and put a rear interior light then it stands up as a very good entrance into maybe your first ev
PS good pitch Mr thomas
Great points there. It seems to be a winner in alternative applications like a driving instructor vehicle and business fleet car👍
limited as a DI CAR has AUTO BOX , that leads into but with a lesser importance to fleet
The only manuals at present are high end , porshce taycan and the new audi , both cost around £ 120,000 each
Use the battery heater when DC charging to increase charge speed in cold weather and also starte the battery heater 30 min before DC charging.
Thanks Palle. Have you seen my DC charging video?
Great car, and very useful review! Thank you very much! 👏👏
I have couple questions, if you can help me: when you use the adaptative cruise control in the city, and you have a vehicle in front of you and you both come to a red light, the first vehicle stops and then I think that your MG stops right behind it.
When the light changes to green, does your MG reiniciate automatically, or you have to press the "gas" pedal?
I own a Volkswagen Golf 7, and if the vehicle that is in front of me takes less than three seconds, my car begins automatically. If the other vehicle is stopped more than 3 seconds, I have to press "RES" in the steering wheel or acelerate a little bit.
Also, if the car is steering for you on the road and you take your hands off from the steering wheel, how many seconds does the car drive before telling you to take the steering wheel? My Volkswagen only drives 13 seconds, and then I have to drive, or the system disengages.
Thank you very much, ant please excuse my English, as I am from Spain 😉
I'd say MG4 is identical as your Golf 7 in every way you have described, it's literally identical. Great English too! Wish I could say the same for my Spanish ; )
And thanks for tuning in and the great comments
@@stuart_thomas Thank you very much for the information, as I could not find answer to my doubts in any other TH-cam video 👏👏
Then, it seems that the new MGs are very nicely equipped, as I was afraid that they could have skimped/saved in some safety/convenience features 👍👍
Thank you very much again, and continue enjoying the car 😁😁
Yet to experience all these positives as my first MG4 failed PDI. Looking forward for the second try. Would like to see they can incorporate the V2L inside of the vehicle as an addition.
Sorry to hear that. Fingers crossed!
That would be a nice touch
V2L is already included cause here I have seen someone building his own V2L adapter for small money and was able to charge a car, a Aiways 5 or a grinder or big saw and also via a detour the house by using the V2L to run a bench power supply with 60V DC that flowed into a small 600W usual solar panel inverter connected to the grid. There is no chance to synchronise the V2L sine wave to the grid therefore the detour.
Yes, a huge amount of losses but better you have such solution with even high losses than having no power at all.
This means the high voltage DC will be transformed to 230V AC and then runs through the V2L connetctor into the bench supply to be converted to 60V DC, from where it will be fed into the inverter to be converted into 230V AC
Each time you read the word converted you can add a loss of 10% and so you might expect 70% at max arriving in the house but 70% of 2300 W out of a 51 kWh is still a lot more than anyone else usually has in case of a black out or grey out or what so ever. The cable is sold by MG for about 400€ or more but it costs a fraction to build such cable. Just the plug, the cable, a resistor and 3 x 230V plug was needed among ferrules and some other smaller pieces. I guess less than 75€ incl. VAT
Hey Stu,
Another great video!
It’s funny the things manufacturers do - dropping the central light does look like a bit of a screw up! I liked your solution!
Also, the lack of mats is a bit annoying, but obviously easily fixed - and at the price, well - can’t really complain.
When ours arrives it will be our first EV.
I’d be very interested in a couple of video comparisons - ICE vs EV - pros and cons & MG4 vs Tesla. The 2nd is more just out of curiosity.
I hope there’s an Over the Air update to provide ‘save’ functionality for driver custom settings - a funny miss by MG!
I guess we have a lot to thank Tesla for in paving the way for this type of EV.
Congrats again on your great content. Best of luck with the channel & looking forward to ours eventually arriving.
Hi Graham, congrats on taking a leap into EV life. When's delivery?
Yeah, I agree, a few oddities but for the most of the issues nothing software updates can't fix. That's probably one positive to EVs, the car will get better.
Definitely an MG4 vs Tesla M3 video coming very soon, probably over Christmas. There's some great comparisons, essentially you're also comparing a new EV vs one which has been on the UK roads for nearly 4 years and a couple more in the US and yes, Tesla were the first disrupter and their philosophy behind what driving and using a car should be like is revolutionary.
It's a great idea to compare vehicles, hard to compare EV vs ICE, there's just so many variables unfortunately, if it was MG ZS vs ZS EV that would be better in terms of apples for apples. Even though we have gone all EV now, I do step into ICE vehicles which included a new Audi A3 yesterday and I couldn't get over how this premium brand was using components which in my opinion were no better than MG4 and don't get me started on gears and a clutch ; )
Thanks so much for tuning in and your support for the channel it does really mean the world.
One pro over the telsa, you can nearly buy two mg4 for the price of one Tesla
@@Sean_S1000 quite right Sean! 😊
@@stuart_thomas Coming from a model S another pro over the Tesla is the panels actually align properly. When one car is £88k and the other mid 20's its hard to see why the cheap one can get it right when the other couldn't.
The Tesla was a lot faster, had a lot more space and was quieter and more comfy. Its a lot larger car so I think those are pretty much given.
It certainly was not worth 3-4 times as much as one of these.
One big tick I can give Tesla is the chargers. I never worried about range and almost never planned where to charge before leaving. I sent the Tesla back because I couldn't live with the constant problems and went plug-in hybrid because I now do very little mileage day to day but with the odd 300+ mile jaunt in there. No point having a large battery I'm only going to use a few times per month.
@@siraff4461 I love the model S. I did Cinderord flooring at second hand one with free charging but they’re still out of my price range but I have been lucky enough to drive a couple, one of the occasions was a for a few days while my wife’s model 3 was in the workshop having the glass roof, centre console and a camera replaced lols. But yes, it’s a lot of money when you compare apples with apples etc
Thank you, a good honest review. So many "professional" reviewers slate this car, especially when comparing to others which cost 30% more. I.E Cupra Born at £47k vs the MG4 at £26k.
Thanks Bernard - it’s a great car at a great price.
Who slates it?? I've read nothing but praise for it from all the major publications and TH-cam reviewers??
Every car site praised this car!!!
Thanks for this report because I fully intend to purchase and an independent report is valuable cheers
Hi Graham I’m glad the video was of use to you. Thanks for tuning in
I think as well, when they release updated and larger batteries, they have set the MG4 up so you can change it for the larger batteries and not have to keep buying a new car to get a longer distance range
Don't ever believe promises like that
hello, how much does it cost for a full charge at home compared to at a charging point?
I currently pay 5p p/kw. This will change to 12p soon as my fixed-term product finishes.
0.12 x 50 (usable battery size) = £6 full charge.
Public chargers are anything from mid-20p-£1 p/kw
I’m waiting for mg to iron out all the problems before I consider one.
Have you experienced being locked in? Or loss of power when it’s cold? Are you getting any more than 180 mile range due to the cold weather as this seems to be the average? Are you finding it very costly to run when using public chargers?
Hi Dave thanks for watching and the comment. No issues as yet. Haven’t been locked in. Charging at home currently costs be £2.40 for a full charge. I have the standard battery and it’s 25% less efficient in sun zero winter. So I’m looking at 160 miles on a full charge. This battery pack is the LFP chemistry to its fine to charge it to 100%.
I do use public chargers, but 90% from home. If I do use one it’s during a long road trip. They can be expensive but there’s lots which are cheaper and some which are free, just use the available apps to filter.
Hi Stuart ,
Really considering this for the next one and stepping into the EV market.....just one question....how have you found no rear wiper? Does the rear window stay clear via the design ? 🤔
Hi Edward, thanks for tuning in and the question. I have no issue with it. The sensors do a great job for reversing and at speed, rain runs off. You can also buy applications like Rain-X which helps too. It’s very rare I think, I wish I had one.
Hi thank you for your very informative reviews. I have recently ordered the MG4 Trophy but after see many reviews particularly on the dedicated MG4 Facebook platform I am very concerned to say the least. Have you had any of the mentioned issues ? I must say that I am disappointed to here of so many problems
Thank you Keith
Hi Keith thanks for tuning in and the positive comments and congrats on your order. It’s a fantastic car, even after 3 months I can’t say too much negative about it. That said, it does have a couple of issues which shouldn’t be on a new car but they will be resolved by the warranty once a couple of parts are finally in stock. I also have a Tesla M3 and I have had more issues with that car than this MG so I wouldn’t worry too much. Being in FB groups have their advantages and places for informative suggestions but it’s also the first place for rants and negativity. Every car has issues in some way shape or form, but I can’t say i haven’t spoken to anyone who doesn’t like this car. Enjoy your new MG4 👍
Hi Stuart thank you for your reassuring reply I feel much more confident about my purchase of the MG4 and now feel good about going ahead with the car.
Keep posting your reviews
Thank you
What about road noise inside the cab?
I don't find it an issue myself. I've drive 6 different cars in the last 7 days (ID.3, Tesla M3, Corsa...) and the MG4 has the best acoustics
Thx for this first Owner-Opinion👍...this helps many out there, who struggle with an Chinese Brand so excellent crafted.
My Testdrive about a Month ago left me confused: A great to drive car with a Cupra-Style to love.
But the Seats are,for me, too much on the softer site and not suportive enough.
And you are right:the LKA is a beast....from the Muppets😉
But i will consider the 4 over the Marvel R...best price wins.
One month is just too soon for an evaluation IMO.
That said, I did enjoy the video and kinda wonder why there's no talk of exporting, car seems very competitive.
I came of age in the sports car era of the sixties and MG, Triumph, Austin Healy, Porsche were all the rage. It would be nice to see that MG emblem back on the roads here in the USA.
I've got an M3 LR and I'm pretty much set for the foreseeable future. With my low yearly mileage this car should see me out just fine. Two years in and it still gives me that new car satisfaction. Just charged up yesterday for 273mi range.
Hi Rick, thanks for tuning in and I’m glad you enjoyed the vid. You’ll be surprised what you can learn about a new car in a month, especially a brand new one to market. That said, I do have a 3-month review coming soon.
I too have a M3 LR and it’s a great car and have leased it for 2 and half years, we’re due trade it in at the end of the year. It would be awesome to see MG in the states, we need to get people into these more affordable EVs which can DC charge well and have 200+ miles👍
@@stuart_thomas I normally charge to 265(80%) but at 2am the supercharger was hardly used so it went over the 80 to my preferred setting of 82 or 83, I forget which. I don't think it was a software change. I kinda forgot about that setting cause the station only allows for 80 when busy.
Elon is speaking today and we should hear all about the changes to the model 3.
@@Rick9482 easily done and you’re not doing any harm at 2am. It will be interesting to hear the master plan 3. I do have a feeling it won’t be about new products and more about scaling up and making the current offering even more affordable. Every gigafactory is set up for a serious model Y ramp up with the M3 also but mainly Y. I also think the 25k car is model 3 or Y as they could sell it at that price if Tesla wanted to now they’ve mastered the art of product cost management and output.
I'm considering the standard model when it will be available in Slovenia. Could you report on what is your impression about PU steering wheel in comparision to leather wheel. Next and maybe only thing I'm missing in standard version is 3 phase charger. How much miles can you get in 8 hours 16 amp overnight charging on single phase? Thaks for encouraging review!
Hi Joze, thanks for tuning in. Hopefully, it won't be too long before it arrives in Slovenia. The steering wheel is great, as good as the Tesla M3 but I've only had it for a month. What's your common voltage supply? If it's 230 like the UK, you'd be looking at 13.8 hours from 0-100%
I think one serious omission from the SE specification is the lack of heating for the front seats. This is usually standard on even entry level EVs because it saves on having the have the heating on, or on as high, when jumping into the car. Most will be able to live without a heated steering wheel but IMHO heated seats should be obligatory.
It’s definitely a feature which should be standard across the board, but a rear wiper and rear interior light should be standard too ☺️
I think heated seats are pretty redundant in a car you can remotely pre warm prior to getting in it. We barely use ours at all on our electric kona
@@wrcallar I think it’s better to have them than not. Our Tesla M3 is finally having the heat pump replaced, if it wasn’t for the heated seats we just wouldn’t be able to drive it in this cold snap
Thanks for making the videos!
Does it pre-condition on the App while plugged in?
As long as it’s not charging
Right on the point of buying one will let you know how I get on
Hi Stuart, great video. great job! We pick our SE up on Saturday, I've been following some Facebook threads who say about the 'lane keep assist' being too aggressive and almost causing rear-shunt accidents.. have you experienced any issues, if so, do you keep LKA turned off? Any other newbie owner tips would be much appreciated. Cheers
Hi And thanks for tuning in and the great feedback. I have a SE like you have ordered (i understand you may have got jt now so congrats) and mine is permanently off. So I never have an issue to deal with. If you do want to use lane assist I’d suggest to only use on motorways and activate TJA (traffic jam assist) which seems to manage lane keeping better but if I’m honest, it’s more hassle than it’s worth and adaptive cruise does the job nicely. Once MG manage this better in software I may entertain it.
I hope that helps.
All the best and congrats with your new MG
I drove 60 miles back from the dealer on a mix of motorway and country roads and the LKA didn't bother me until I got off the A roads - on our little winding roads it either wanted to put me in the middle of the road in the face of oncoming or push me into the boggy shoulder! to sink like a stone. It is quite aggressive and jerky whereas what isn't really even needed is a gentle cut in gradually pushing you (preferably without feeding back to your hands which naturally fight the push as if you hit something!