Akchualy, it was George Cayley who was credited with inventing the seat belt in the 19th century. Nils Bohlin, on the other hand, is credited with inventing the 3 point seat belt in the 1950s.
Inertia dampners are the best and a seat belt has proven in a space ship not to save lives. That's why we don't see them on seats on the bridge or anything else but traditional road vehicles like car rovers and hover vehicles.
It was about the clothing they wanted Ms. Ryan to wear, Ms, Mulgrew was against it. She felt it would be a distraction & would sexualize the character.@@NathanielHart1988
Remember when he crash landed on a planet that was populated by former drones who also crashed and over time became disconnected from the hive, they linked him up so that thier collective minds could heal his wounds that he suffered from the crash, he still has the interlink.
That's how politics works. Take credit on things you're have nothing to do; pass blame, there it is benefitial to your cause and demand restitution, you have no priority for.
@@walgekaaren1783 When you're going to assimilate your associates, "the borg have prevailed" becomes more foreshadowing than presumption. But eventually their disinterest in honoring agreements would get the better of them. I think that kind of thing is part of what Guinan was getting at in Q Who when she talked about how someday humanity might be able to have a relationship with the borg--instead of being merely victims or enemies not worth talking to.
The context of this is that Voyager's crew provided the Borg with the same nanoprobe weaponry that they used to fight species 8472 in exchange for safe passage. So the Borg were fighting 8472 in other battles, just with a weapon they were given the design for. Thus saying they prevailed in those battles is perfectly accurate, if ungrateful in human terms.
@@242sighting Why not? the holodeck makes it super easy to research the past. Easiest thing ever to create pen and paper, and then it's just a matter of training your hand to write.
Voyager was built for speed. The engines run high compression, nitrous, and both superchargers and turbochargers. Needless to say, the octane rating of the fuel they use is insane. And out there in the Delta quadrant, the speed limit of warp 5 to keep from damaging the subspace traffic lanes is not in effect.
@@TheHornsofValmar Yes, I know Kate and Jeri didn't not get along well in real life. Working long hours, and possibly the production crew had lots to do why many of the actors never saw eye to eye.
@@rotyler2177 a story Chacotay told janeway about a scorpion and another animal of how the Scorpion betrayed the other animal when both their lives were in danger.
@@rotyler2177 The full story: A scorpion wants to cross a river but cannot swim, so it asks a frog to carry it across. The frog hesitates, afraid that the scorpion might sting it, but the scorpion argues that if it did that, they would both drown. The frog considers this argument sensible and agrees to transport the scorpion. The frog lets the scorpion climb on its back and begins to swim. Midway across the river, the scorpion stings the frog anyway, dooming them both. The dying frog asks the scorpion why it stung despite knowing the consequence, to which the scorpion replies: "I couldn't help it. It's in my nature."
That show was produced not only in the 90s... and it is literally the beginning of the "new stuff" as they replaced a male hero/captain with a woman that do not need no man...
I’m honestly surprised that Janeway knows how to write considering I’ve never seen an actual sheet of paper in the trek universe. At least not in the current timeline.
You could see some paper in TOS, both Kirk and Pike worked with that. Also, you see a lot of books. Also, you see Jake handwriting on a Padd some time.
I remember there was an episode in which a woman told Jake Sisco to use a paper, he was surprised but did it. I`m sure they learn it. Padds are cool but there may be some emergency situations that would require handwriting. They probably don`t learn calligraphy though🙃
April 5, 2063 25.3K subscribers It's a damn shame that the crew of Voyager got rid of the Borg tech on the outside of their ship in the next episode, as it would have come in handy the next time they encountered the Borg, but I can see why they got rid of it for safety reasons and just so they don't get accidently shot down by friendly alien ships.
They did keep some of the internal systems, like when Chakotay mentions the power couplings work better with the Borg components. Astrometrics and the two Flyers was built with Borg tech in them.
He had a guy puts a typo in almost every one of his titles releasing copyrighted content....he always forgets an S in the verbs .. should use Google translate or study a bit of English.
Considering there is enough references to each other across both shows over the years (to the point there is a Doctor Who reference page on the star trek wiki/fandom thing) I think it's safe to say they are fans of each others work :P
Lol my buddy answering his door. "I'm a homo phobe who believes in gay rights to get married. I donate or don't donate my blood and organs. I have and don't have tattoos on my body.
@@ryanm7263 agreed. In TNG they were terrifying. One scout cube obliterated over 30 ships int he battle of Wolf 359. In a later episode, a cube cant even defeat Voyager and ends up crippled to the point where the Queen (another reason to hate the series) orders it to self destruct.
On a serious note. Seven of Nine's story is really a disturbing one when you think about it.On one hand yes she was kidnapped and assimilated by the Borg. It's the only life she knew, and he comes Janeway to strip that life she knows to force humanity on her. Obviously I'm glad she found her humanity, but there are some ethical questions there. I bring this up because there was a flip of this story line later on where Ichib (a boy that was once Borg) was forced to return to his parents, and the ethical questions around all that. Good shit all around!
Thats the point. Ethical matters. But seven was human and kidnapped. And used to kidnapp human. Its not clever to return her to the collective. They were cruel enemies.
@@miguelaprendizaje.2918 That's a matter of opinion. The Borg, from our perspective, are evil. From the Borg perspective, we are the primitive conflicting hated fill creatures that kill each other and suffer. Seven of None actually described this well when she was learning to be human again. Hue from TNG also showed the appeal of the Collective. Also Seven of Nine's parents are idiots and put their kid in danger, but that is a different story. My point is how I LOVE this kind of "villain" character study and understanding why being the bad person is Start Trek is really a matter of perspective.
Plus the Borg are not ethical as a rule, and it's only seen that way from the outside looking in occasionally. They generally do whatever serves their own ends. Plus Annika was like seven or eight (ironically) years or age or so when assimilated, so she would eventually start to remember what life was before that.
@@jasonpye4649 Thank you for the correction. I was going off the top of my head from an episode I watched many years ago when I still was young and had hair on my head. :)
It was never said if they had safe passage through Borg space. Was the Borg just too busy rebuilding after being almost obliterated or did Voyager just exit Borg space as quickly as possible even though that might mean doubling back. Maybe severing the connection gave the Borg pause to try and reevaluate what had happen as to whether just as Voyager had a strategy against the aliens from the matter universe but one against the Borg as well. Obviously, leaving much unsaid is often best for a writer but there's a few questions with this one.
To me it seems BLATANTLY OBVIOUSL that the earlier "disagreement' between Janeway and Chakotay (I apologize if I UNINTENTIONALLY mis-spelled that) was SPECIFICALLY designed as a misdirection/ploy just incase the Borg were listening in to the two of them. A deception to try to mask/hide the fact that Janeway and Chakotay had developed a contingency plan incase the Borg tried their own FEEBLE attempt at treachery. Hence Janeway's saying to Chakotay: "Scorpion". I mean SERIOUSLY, why ELSE would Chakotay be ready in a Borg Regenerative Alcove? Just my own personal opinion anyway
The part with Chakotay never made sense, in the episode where he encountered the free borg they specifically said they didn't need to implant anything into him to temporarily link him to their collective. Yet in Scorpion he states that he had one of their neurotranscievers implanted into his spine. Big contradiction there.
They might have been too weak at that point to successfully fight off 8472. That would then leave 8472 to go on a rampage throughout the delta quadrant.
Voyager needed the help of the Borg to make that plan work. If they tried to let the Borg be destroyed first, the Borg would have no reason not to assimilate them.
This was one of the very few moments when Chakotay acted the part of a First Officer. He went to his captain with his concerns and they devised a plan of action that relied on his obedience and his independence to pull off. The captain, conversely, was able to proceed with her plan by relying on her first officer to do his part when he was needed. This is the relationship Picard and Riker had in nearly every episode of TNG, and which no Trek after it has come close to replicating.
At 2m17s why is the doctor wearing a yellow (or gold) uniform of a science officer, he should be wearing blue since he's medical. Also, I thought Borg space was vast, I remember that the Borg turned on Voyager but they didn't make it really clear on how Voyager got through their vast space without them honoring their agreement. It should take many weeks if not months to pass through Borg territory and without them honoring their agreement, Voyager should have not made it through or they should have had to take a very very long way around it adding years to their journey.
Watching this back I always wondered why an 8472 ship could absolutely annihilate a borg cube in single shot, yet Voyager could tank it with just damage to shields/weapons. Obviously this is for plot purposes but still...
Simple thing : Borg need to adopt to tank something. Voyager thou? Ablative armor (YES, she has that NORMALY as HULL ya know? She in line with Defiants and Akira's and more modern warships ment to, when need arises, fight the borg) PLUS multiphasic shielding, aka changing their frequency constantly wich is the main reason she survives those at least 3 hits from 8472 unlike the borg cubes. Also the borg upgrades increased her armor and shield power a lot (like they do in STO btw. loved it back then when it was the best you can get, still love the buffs to all systems they give) so it was obvious a mere frigate of them couldnt do shit against a ship able to 1v1 a TACTICAL CUBE and survive(not win, that was alway's out of question).
I’m surprised 7 didn’t just assimilate Tom instead of just simply pushing him away. I mean, you would’ve assumed that she could’ve just assimilated him so there’s another drone to help assimilate the rest. 🤷🏻♂️
You would think with all the years and advancements in technology, the Federation couldn't come up with some type of shield that absorbs the energy and either bleeds it off or uses it in it's own offensive arrays. How many times have we heard, "Shields failing, engines and weapons are offline"?
Shield generators are failing because of all the extra energy/work that this shields are exposed to not becuse they are out of energy... and the newer ships in star trek have stronger shields but for kinda obvious reason they also use stronger weapons and enemies must mount stronger weapons when stronger shields are developed... Even mirror can't reflect most of the light that u shine on it if u use the "wrong" type of light that have the "wrong" wavelenght and why your enemy would be using the corect type if the whole point of firing is to damage your ship?
While 7 of 9 was still connected to the Borg collective, Tess would have had to manipulate the entire hive mind at once to achieve that. "Strong you are with Dark Side young one... but not THAT strong."
Last ? Nope. Best? Yes. Thou sad that they lose the ability to beat them so easily later on as Species 8472 adopts once more, so do the borg. Those terible loses? Yea will never happen again. Transphasic torps? They where near imune to them at the end. Destroying a part of Unimatrix 01? HARDLY put a dent into them. It set them back shure but not much. Also one has to say.. its voyagers fault realy... they assimilated the ablative armor generator in the last episode so its only natural that they would now PWN 8472.
I like the scene, except for the unneccessary drama! If you know how to knock a drone out, why not have that prepared so you just have to, well "plug and play" (like say a USB-Thumb-Drive!)...in it goes and bam! :(
love the show. haha not to nit pic too much but she is using a quill pen all wrong, they do not work like a modern pen, all strokes must go down the sloped table
So I was watching this episode when my wife walked into the living room and started watching for a bit. As this segment ended, she says, "Why did they go through all that? Why didn't someone just hit her in the back of the head with a chair or brick?" I just looked at her and thought, yeah, why didn't they? 😅
Or JJ not actually taking on the challenge, being clever and playing in the same sandbox that had been established for 40-plus years. He could have still done the same exact time period cuz that time was only loosely fleshed out anyway. The bones were there and that was about it. If he had had some decent writers, decent help and been a decent partner in the cause of Trek, it could have been good. It's utterly embarrassing that newbies coming into the franchise only knowing those movies, they think that's what Trek is and that alone?!? As if. I remember years ago explaining how I felt about Trek, what it meant to me and this person said something like 'oh wow, I would have gotten nothing like that out of these movies' and then I explained the 09 film and what I knew of the others (never saw them in theaters or fully otherwise as there wasn't a point). Just like the new Star Wars could have been exceptional if they had taken George Lucas's original treatments for a sequel, combine that with a few new things here and there of course as things need to advance, but more importantly as a framework attempted to the best of their ability the expanded universe material. There are reasons why that worked but they were clearly tossed out the window with the bathwater. That's my three-legged stool to stand on: a melding of expanded universe stuff, George Lucas's original treatments for a sequel and some new things to make it mesh.
@@jasonpye4649 I strongly agree. Star Trek isn't the same as it used to be.... but "Star Trek: Lower Decks" however to me is an exception as they did what and succeeded..... where both "Star Trek: Discovery" and "Star Trek: Picard" had failed to do.
I always wondered why Starfleet didn't just use swords or axes on the Borg. Just chop them up hahaha. They would literally just stand there and let you do it probably. They've always been stupidly designed enemies in my opinion. Way too many loopholes and nonsense logic.
@@MilsurpMikeChannel Indeed. Though that's probably not the best idea for inside a starship. Maybe you could use plastic bullets design to fracture on impact like in the show: The Expanse.
Getting within arms reach of a Borg was a really bad idea. Those borg assimilation tubes still had a lot sting. Could knock a human out almost instantly.
Sadly, no matter how many episodes and how much I wanted to like her. I could never buy Kate Mulgrew's Janeway. She said her lines fine and made all the right sounds/expressions. But she always looked/felt like she was an actress playing Janeway. As opposed to just 'being' Janeway. ☮
2:29 It's that plasma plate from Spencer's that makes the Borg alcove look so authentic, yo.
Chakotay: proof that with enough Ayahuasca and Borg technology you can become Vulcan.
Quality comment 😂
Borg technology - not found.
I just need to go and rewatch all of the Star Trek series again. I forgotten like 90% of the episodes, even though I've seen them all.
I'm surprised that no one in the Star Trek universe ever heard of Nils Bohlin......The inventor of the seatbelt.
They're too reliant on those inertial dampers.
@@danieldickson8591 you mean the ones that are always going offline?
Akchualy, it was George Cayley who was credited with inventing the seat belt in the 19th century. Nils Bohlin, on the other hand, is credited with inventing the 3 point seat belt in the 1950s.
Inertia dampners are the best and a seat belt has proven in a space ship not to save lives. That's why we don't see them on seats on the bridge or anything else but traditional road vehicles like car rovers and hover vehicles.
A gold-star for giving the fuller story. The "Nils Bohlin" comment was a repeat from the other clip of this episode, also 2 year ago.@@THE-BUNKEN-DRUM
Knowing what I know now (about the tensions between Mulgrew and Ryan), I can see that was a REAL dirty look she gave!
What was the tension about?
It was about the clothing they wanted Ms. Ryan to wear, Ms, Mulgrew was against it. She felt it would be a distraction & would sexualize the character.@@NathanielHart1988
@@mobutuyambe6007 I never knew that. I don't think Kate Mulgrew was really wrong, either.
I like how Chakotay can see Anika's memories, but somehow her memories of herself as a little girl are all from a third-person perspective. 😂
As Borg would she not see her human self from a 3rd person perspective, because it isn't her anymore. We are BORG.
Chakotay masquerading as a Borg in an alcove to distract Seven? Wow, that's a very interesting plot twist.
Especially given what happened with them in the series finale.
Remember when he crash landed on a planet that was populated by former drones who also crashed and over time became disconnected from the hive, they linked him up so that thier collective minds could heal his wounds that he suffered from the crash, he still has the interlink.
Data would have come in handy in this episode lol.
@@BrettCagwin49ers Lore disguising himself as Data would've come handy here :)
7 before getting unplugged.
Humans are cheeky mofos. Always a backup plan in the back pocket. I sometimes wonder if we’re actually the villains lol!
Humans are space orcs.
www.alittlebithuman.com/humans-are-space-orcs-and-earth-is-space-australia/
"The borg have prevailed." seriously... how can they take any credit they were being decimated until voyager saved them.. ungrateful sobs haha
That's how politics works. Take credit on things you're have nothing to do; pass blame, there it is benefitial to your cause and demand restitution, you have no priority for.
@@walgekaaren1783 When you're going to assimilate your associates, "the borg have prevailed" becomes more foreshadowing than presumption.
But eventually their disinterest in honoring agreements would get the better of them. I think that kind of thing is part of what Guinan was getting at in Q Who when she talked about how someday humanity might be able to have a relationship with the borg--instead of being merely victims or enemies not worth talking to.
The Borg did prevail. That they did so with human help is beside the point. 😉
Gratitude is irrelevant.
The context of this is that Voyager's crew provided the Borg with the same nanoprobe weaponry that they used to fight species 8472 in exchange for safe passage. So the Borg were fighting 8472 in other battles, just with a weapon they were given the design for. Thus saying they prevailed in those battles is perfectly accurate, if ungrateful in human terms.
The Borg. Originally a race of intergalactic Tennis Players. How did they go so wrong?
It's not like they were Bjorn yesterday.
What, really? Tennis?
I think It started when they begin making underwear. They forgot tennis and its humanity. Undie business is ruthless.
Very punny!
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Game, set and match!
Loved seeing Janeway writing in her log the very old fashion way.
Hadn't paper become obsolete like a couple of hundred years before she was born? Not only obsolete but totally forgotten?
@@mckinleymac3452 "Not even the calm of Master Da Vinci's workshop can ease my mind" lomarf what were they thinking
No. Captain Picard read actual books.@@mckinleymac3452
Loved seeing 7 of 9 wearing her figure flattering uniform.
@@242sighting
Why not? the holodeck makes it super easy to research the past. Easiest thing ever to create pen and paper, and then it's just a matter of training your hand to write.
Thank you for following proper link protocol: never link back to prior parts.
...and from that day, Voyager became about three times as interesting. :)
I do like how Janeway typically uses higher warp factors to flee. Picard does a lot of warp 2.
Voyager was built for speed. The engines run high compression, nitrous, and both superchargers and turbochargers. Needless to say, the octane rating of the fuel they use is insane.
And out there in the Delta quadrant, the speed limit of warp 5 to keep from damaging the subspace traffic lanes is not in effect.
@@Turboy65 I can’t believe voyager doesn’t have a spoiler attached.
Higher warp factors have a risk of spilling his tea...
@@alanfrost75 Like Sulu's!
@@mrbear1302 Indeed!
When Chakotay linked with Seven, he also linked with the collective...good thing they didn't just take him over...again.
I love the subtitles on this.. the descriptive portions are perfect. thank you.
Chakotay is incredible he can hear our THOUGHTS.
Severed of Nine.
And that's the bitter start, a very bitter start to a beautiful friendship.
If only the actors themselves could have had such a friendship during this show's run
@@TheHornsofValmar Yes, I know Kate and Jeri didn't not get along well in real life. Working long hours, and possibly the production crew had lots to do why many of the actors never saw eye to eye.
Very clever that chakotay used scorpion to stop seven.
Mr. Chris, what is scorpion?
@@rotyler2177 a story Chacotay told janeway about a scorpion and another animal of how the Scorpion betrayed the other animal when both their lives were in danger.
@@rotyler2177 The full story:
A scorpion wants to cross a river but cannot swim, so it asks a frog to carry it across. The frog hesitates, afraid that the scorpion might sting it, but the scorpion argues that if it did that, they would both drown. The frog considers this argument sensible and agrees to transport the scorpion. The frog lets the scorpion climb on its back and begins to swim. Midway across the river, the scorpion stings the frog anyway, dooming them both. The dying frog asks the scorpion why it stung despite knowing the consequence, to which the scorpion replies: "I couldn't help it. It's in my nature."
@@TheRealThunder that's hilarious 😆.
a species more terrifying than the Borg? gosh by golly my goodness gracious.
Hannibal (The A-Team): "I love it when a plan comes together."
Janeway (Voyager): "Hold my coffee."
Hannibal: "Im Hannibal Smith of Borg. I love it when an Assimilation works"
I want another of these 90s Star-Trek series... screw the old stuff, screw the new stuff. I want 90s extravagenza and low credibility.
Time travel is posible
That show was produced not only in the 90s... and it is literally the beginning of the "new stuff" as they replaced a male hero/captain with a woman that do not need no man...
I wonder if the holodeck automatically transcribed Janeway's written log into her files?
That would have been a clever point writers room/script-wise, if so.
actually, it most likely did. She likes the quiet and tranquility of the workshop
I've always assumed it did.
The holodeck can record any actions made by the crew and characters, including writings and art work
@@michaelschweigart3517 Poor Barclay...
I’m honestly surprised that Janeway knows how to write considering I’ve never seen an actual sheet of paper in the trek universe. At least not in the current timeline.
You could see some paper in TOS, both Kirk and Pike worked with that. Also, you see a lot of books. Also, you see Jake handwriting on a Padd some time.
It was on the Holodeck
Picard was often seen reading paper books so it's not unheard of at all.
I remember there was an episode in which a woman told Jake Sisco to use a paper, he was surprised but did it. I`m sure they learn it. Padds are cool but there may be some emergency situations that would require handwriting. They probably don`t learn calligraphy though🙃
Schools in Hawaii have already stop requiring teaching script so I’m a little surprised she found books on how to write it.
"You're an individual, we are one!"
What, "We are one?" !
Sounds like the beginning of a collective to me.
Star trek universe like a Steven Segal movie they never lose.
In Steven Seagull movies, he's never in peril.
April 5, 2063
25.3K subscribers It's a damn shame that the crew of Voyager got rid of the Borg tech on the outside of their ship in the next episode, as it would have come in handy the next time they encountered the Borg, but I can see why they got rid of it for safety reasons and just so they don't get accidently shot down by friendly alien ships.
That and they made a plot point that the Borg tech was disrupting the engines
@@stars9084 True.
They did keep some of the internal systems, like when Chakotay mentions the power couplings work better with the Borg components. Astrometrics and the two Flyers was built with Borg tech in them.
@@edtierney6076 Not to mention they once got a Borg Transwarp Coil for use in the very first Delta Flyer in the episode "Dark Frontier: Part II".
He had a guy puts a typo in almost every one of his titles releasing copyrighted content....he always forgets an S in the verbs .. should use Google translate or study a bit of English.
I love the ancient quill (feather pen) she uses at the end to write her diary
I remember back in 1966 seeing the Cybermen for the first time, "You will be like us." wonder if Trek script writers were fans?
Considering there is enough references to each other across both shows over the years (to the point there is a Doctor Who reference page on the star trek wiki/fandom thing) I think it's safe to say they are fans of each others work :P
Another good one dude
I'm certain that all captains were versed in the humanities in Starfleet Academy, and most are studious of history, etc.
TFW stuck between Fanatic Purifiers and Driven Assimilators
Natural escalation from honorbound wariors and ruthles capitalists back home.
I always thought of Species 8472 as like the most aggressive Jehovah's Witnesses of the Delta Quadrant.
Lol my buddy answering his door. "I'm a homo phobe who believes in gay rights to get married. I donate or don't donate my blood and organs. I have and don't have tattoos on my body.
Agreed. However, I also found Kate Vernon (prior to her BSG role) as a very attractive Species 8472 agent who masqueraded as a Starfleet officer.
Except answering your door naked won’t drive them off hehe
@@rowlandbuck2703 Giggity Giggity ALRIGHT!
😂😂😂
classic coder scheduling issue. "just a few more seconds", 29 seconds later
If I find myself taking a fluidic dump, I am suffering from a case of Feces 8472.
3:27 someone got to second base with Seven! 🤣
Resistance is FERTILE.
I like it when the collective talk dirty to me.
:p
It's been awhile since I saw this episode, but for a Borg, 7 has a lot of individuality, she even says I.
Voyager ruined the Borg
@@ryanm7263 how so?
@@ryanm7263 It did not. Best Borg episodes are in Voyager.
@@ryanm7263 agreed. In TNG they were terrifying. One scout cube obliterated over 30 ships int he battle of Wolf 359. In a later episode, a cube cant even defeat Voyager and ends up crippled to the point where the Queen (another reason to hate the series) orders it to self destruct.
Ilove tis si❤❤
Species 8472 is no joke.
The Borg backstabbing the Voyager crew, hmm...
Didn't Chakotay say something about this earlier...?
Hence, the codename Scorpion for the plan. And the name of the Episode
On a serious note. Seven of Nine's story is really a disturbing one when you think about it.On one hand yes she was kidnapped and assimilated by the Borg. It's the only life she knew, and he comes Janeway to strip that life she knows to force humanity on her. Obviously I'm glad she found her humanity, but there are some ethical questions there. I bring this up because there was a flip of this story line later on where Ichib (a boy that was once Borg) was forced to return to his parents, and the ethical questions around all that. Good shit all around!
Thats the point. Ethical matters. But seven was human and kidnapped. And used to kidnapp human. Its not clever to return her to the collective. They were cruel enemies.
@@miguelaprendizaje.2918 That's a matter of opinion. The Borg, from our perspective, are evil. From the Borg perspective, we are the primitive conflicting hated fill creatures that kill each other and suffer. Seven of None actually described this well when she was learning to be human again. Hue from TNG also showed the appeal of the Collective. Also Seven of Nine's parents are idiots and put their kid in danger, but that is a different story. My point is how I LOVE this kind of "villain" character study and understanding why being the bad person is Start Trek is really a matter of perspective.
@@SSingh-nr8qz Hugh*
Plus the Borg are not ethical as a rule, and it's only seen that way from the outside looking in occasionally. They generally do whatever serves their own ends. Plus Annika was like seven or eight (ironically) years or age or so when assimilated, so she would eventually start to remember what life was before that.
@@jasonpye4649 Thank you for the correction. I was going off the top of my head from an episode I watched many years ago when I still was young and had hair on my head. :)
0:14 listen closely to that sound effect when those light dots are moving.
K.I.T.T. is always watching.
Or Cylon if you choose.
“Resistance is futile!” 1:44
Ah, yes, a driven assimilator vs a purger
fanatic spiritualist purger no less.
Ah a fellow stellaris player
The High yield warhead was a Class 10 Gravametric charge a weapon of nass destruction.
This transcript I added in my previous comments is from Star Trek Voyager episode Scorpion part 2 in season 4 😁
It was never said if they had safe passage through Borg space. Was the Borg just too busy rebuilding after being almost obliterated or did Voyager just exit Borg space as quickly as possible even though that might mean doubling back. Maybe severing the connection gave the Borg pause to try and reevaluate what had happen as to whether just as Voyager had a strategy against the aliens from the matter universe but one against the Borg as well. Obviously, leaving much unsaid is often best for a writer but there's a few questions with this one.
It goes into the next episode that they have an exit borg space yet but at the end of the episode kes flies them out directly out of both space
When you have nukes which can annihilate dozens of ships at once, and secret neck zappers via telepathic link, you cannot lose.
Ah when TV was worth watching.
3:27 Hey Ensign where is your hand grabbing Hmm?
To me it seems BLATANTLY OBVIOUSL that the earlier "disagreement' between Janeway and Chakotay (I apologize if I UNINTENTIONALLY mis-spelled that) was SPECIFICALLY designed as a misdirection/ploy just incase the Borg were listening in to the two of them. A deception to try to mask/hide the fact that Janeway and Chakotay had developed a contingency plan incase the Borg tried their own FEEBLE attempt at treachery.
Hence Janeway's saying to Chakotay: "Scorpion".
I mean SERIOUSLY, why ELSE would Chakotay be ready in a Borg Regenerative Alcove?
Just my own personal opinion anyway
That was literally the point
The part with Chakotay never made sense, in the episode where he encountered the free borg they specifically said they didn't need to implant anything into him to temporarily link him to their collective. Yet in Scorpion he states that he had one of their neurotranscievers implanted into his spine. Big contradiction there.
Or they lied to him
@@greengreeneya2102 or that's a thing that only Free Borg can do, not traditional
What an expert can do versus what an amature can do.
Would have done better to let 8472 destroy the bulk of the collective before sharing the countermeasure.
Maybe you could have done that if you'd been in this situation. I wonder how well it would have gone.
They might have been too weak at that point to successfully fight off 8472. That would then leave 8472 to go on a rampage throughout the delta quadrant.
if the fludic aliens defeated the Borg, all four quadrants would be in trouble.
@@SantomPh logically
Voyager needed the help of the Borg to make that plan work. If they tried to let the Borg be destroyed first, the Borg would have no reason not to assimilate them.
"Shields failing, engines and weapons are offline"....."this ship is junk. Enough already."
Chakotay spirit quest I mean scorpion.
Did Seven create a singularity to escape? 🤔🤔
This was one of the very few moments when Chakotay acted the part of a First Officer. He went to his captain with his concerns and they devised a plan of action that relied on his obedience and his independence to pull off. The captain, conversely, was able to proceed with her plan by relying on her first officer to do his part when he was needed.
This is the relationship Picard and Riker had in nearly every episode of TNG, and which no Trek after it has come close to replicating.
At 2m17s why is the doctor wearing a yellow (or gold) uniform of a science officer, he should be wearing blue since he's medical. Also, I thought Borg space was vast, I remember that the Borg turned on Voyager but they didn't make it really clear on how Voyager got through their vast space without them honoring their agreement. It should take many weeks if not months to pass through Borg territory and without them honoring their agreement, Voyager should have not made it through or they should have had to take a very very long way around it adding years to their journey.
Janeway is a cocky and reckless captain. But... She Prevailed... She is still cocky!
Boobalian Prime: Acquired.
The Borg do not keep their word.
Bioships? Genetic purity? It reminds me of the Yuuzhan Vong from Star Wars.
The voice over effect when Chakotay speaks, is there a name for that?
Reverberation? In wikipedia there is article "Reverb effect" and many types of it are described there.
So, the Borg and Humans ran into the Star Trek's version of The Shadows of Babylon 5?.
Watching this back I always wondered why an 8472 ship could absolutely annihilate a borg cube in single shot, yet Voyager could tank it with just damage to shields/weapons. Obviously this is for plot purposes but still...
Simple thing : Borg need to adopt to tank something. Voyager thou? Ablative armor (YES, she has that NORMALY as HULL ya know? She in line with Defiants and Akira's and more modern warships ment to, when need arises, fight the borg) PLUS multiphasic shielding, aka changing their frequency constantly wich is the main reason she survives those at least 3 hits from 8472 unlike the borg cubes. Also the borg upgrades increased her armor and shield power a lot (like they do in STO btw. loved it back then when it was the best you can get, still love the buffs to all systems they give) so it was obvious a mere frigate of them couldnt do shit against a ship able to 1v1 a TACTICAL CUBE and survive(not win, that was alway's out of question).
Tank it? Where do you get that expression from?
@@aardvarkbiscuit2677 in the context I'm using it, it means the ability to handle damage without significant damage
@@pjnathgaming - I thought you might be an Eve player.
@@aardvarkbiscuit2677 I did play star trek online for a time
I would still do 7 of 9 as a BORG !
Ja ja so sieht das aus nur wohin geht die Reise
Engage the Garlic Rectifiers and launch the onion torpedoes.
I’m surprised 7 didn’t just assimilate Tom instead of just simply pushing him away.
I mean, you would’ve assumed that she could’ve just assimilated him so there’s another drone to help assimilate the rest. 🤷🏻♂️
Pilot loverboys don't make good Borg.
"Dow It"
Then janeway has 7 returned to a delicious human specimen 😊
You would think with all the years and advancements in technology, the Federation couldn't come up with some type of shield that absorbs the energy and either bleeds it off or uses it in it's own offensive arrays. How many times have we heard, "Shields failing, engines and weapons are offline"?
Shield generators are failing because of all the extra energy/work that this shields are exposed to not becuse they are out of energy... and the newer ships in star trek have stronger shields but for kinda obvious reason they also use stronger weapons and enemies must mount stronger weapons when stronger shields are developed...
Even mirror can't reflect most of the light that u shine on it if u use the "wrong" type of light that have the "wrong" wavelenght and why your enemy would be using the corect type if the whole point of firing is to damage your ship?
realy tom restance is futel 7 gave him a good push lmao
The borg altered the deal pray they dont alter it further
Weird how Kes couldn't use her jedi mind powers on Seven here
While 7 of 9 was still connected to the Borg collective, Tess would have had to manipulate the entire hive mind at once to achieve that. "Strong you are with Dark Side young one... but not THAT strong."
萬蠱蝕天
A Cuchi Moya
Last ? Nope. Best? Yes. Thou sad that they lose the ability to beat them so easily later on as Species 8472 adopts once more, so do the borg. Those terible loses? Yea will never happen again. Transphasic torps? They where near imune to them at the end. Destroying a part of Unimatrix 01? HARDLY put a dent into them. It set them back shure but not much. Also one has to say.. its voyagers fault realy... they assimilated the ablative armor generator in the last episode so its only natural that they would now PWN 8472.
Seven can't push anyone out of the way. Other crew members should have gave her a beaten
STV episode Scorpion part 2 😁
This was a good two part episode.
I like the scene, except for the unneccessary drama! If you know how to knock a drone out, why not have that prepared so you just have to, well "plug and play" (like say a USB-Thumb-Drive!)...in it goes and bam! :(
how long has KES had longb hair ?????????????/
@howardsix9708, First showed up in the last half dozen episodes of the 3rd season. Before and After was the first one, IIRC.
love the show. haha not to nit pic too much but she is using a quill pen all wrong, they do not work like a modern pen, all strokes must go down the sloped table
Why didn't they just beam her into the nearest star? Oh, sorry. her/it.
Too whom it may concern sorry I am frustrated not defeated
It's amazing what you can do with a cheap piece of meat if you know how to treat it.
Wtf?
It's a metaphor involving steak preparation.
I sympathized with Seven. She liked being borg, she wanted to be borg yet Janeway said no.
Later 7 of 9 does 69 with Chakotay. Since he thought about it
So I was watching this episode when my wife walked into the living room and started watching for a bit. As this segment ended, she says, "Why did they go through all that? Why didn't someone just hit her in the back of the head with a chair or brick?" I just looked at her and thought, yeah, why didn't they? 😅
Log 51oo6 oh there is no o 0 but no oh
Never understood how 7 of 9 came in from different places and different times.
3:30 "Bit of a headache" genius callback! back when Star Trek writers earned there money. th-cam.com/video/Iiae5F--XrY/w-d-xo.html
Back when Star Trek was Star Trek, and not Star Drek.
Or Woke Trek
Star Trek crybaby
@@andrewguest6941 Or new crappy shows that are TERRIBLE such as Star Trek: Discovery and Star Trek: Picard TV Series.
Or JJ not actually taking on the challenge, being clever and playing in the same sandbox that had been established for 40-plus years. He could have still done the same exact time period cuz that time was only loosely fleshed out anyway. The bones were there and that was about it. If he had had some decent writers, decent help and been a decent partner in the cause of Trek, it could have been good. It's utterly embarrassing that newbies coming into the franchise only knowing those movies, they think that's what Trek is and that alone?!? As if. I remember years ago explaining how I felt about Trek, what it meant to me and this person said something like 'oh wow, I would have gotten nothing like that out of these movies' and then I explained the 09 film and what I knew of the others (never saw them in theaters or fully otherwise as there wasn't a point).
Just like the new Star Wars could have been exceptional if they had taken George Lucas's original treatments for a sequel, combine that with a few new things here and there of course as things need to advance, but more importantly as a framework attempted to the best of their ability the expanded universe material. There are reasons why that worked but they were clearly tossed out the window with the bathwater. That's my three-legged stool to stand on: a melding of expanded universe stuff, George Lucas's original treatments for a sequel and some new things to make it mesh.
@@jasonpye4649 I strongly agree. Star Trek isn't the same as it used to be.... but "Star Trek: Lower Decks" however to me is an exception as they did what and succeeded..... where both "Star Trek: Discovery" and "Star Trek: Picard" had failed to do.
I always wondered why Starfleet didn't just use swords or axes on the Borg. Just chop them up hahaha. They would literally just stand there and let you do it probably. They've always been stupidly designed enemies in my opinion. Way too many loopholes and nonsense logic.
Or bullets....
@@MilsurpMikeChannel Indeed. Though that's probably not the best idea for inside a starship. Maybe you could use plastic bullets design to fracture on impact like in the show: The Expanse.
Getting within arms reach of a Borg was a really bad idea. Those borg assimilation tubes still had a lot sting. Could knock a human out almost instantly.
This is not the last battle lol
Look at the size of her chest in this outfit.
Sadly, no matter how many episodes and how much I wanted to like her.
I could never buy Kate Mulgrew's Janeway.
She said her lines fine and made all the right sounds/expressions.
But she always looked/felt like she was an actress playing Janeway.
As opposed to just 'being' Janeway.
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There were so many lines! The memorization must have been epic
All the writers, directors, make-up artists and all borg should be destroyed for turning 7 of eleven into this creature.
Lol she is one of the best characters in whole star trek.