I would have liked to see odo hand quark a weapon and tell him. “ just be mindful that your pointing it a Klingon Quark, oh make sure your still alive so you can return it to me”. Quark nods and says “ Thanks odo, I didn’t know you cared” odo responds, “ I don’t but since your the only bar on this station we can’t let the Klingons destroy the entertainment, now can we”. Quark nods again before going into his bar and locking the door.
"An illusion created by thoron fields and duranium shadows." I've always loved that line because it's basically the same line muttered in the first episode by the Cardassian officer as they try to decide whether or not to attack the station. Great call back.
and how would General Martok of all people know about thoron fields and duranium shadows? that's not something a Klingon is likely to know, unless Martok isnt who he appears to be.
@@deadponic117Klingons may be great warriors, but only a fool would underestimate their technical proficiency. It's just that Federation engineers make everyone else look like babies with toy hammers and wrenches. Even the Dominion admires their skill, if Keevan's opinion in Rocks and Shoals is any indicator.
@@deadponic117 Martok was one of the few highly-intelligent Klingons who wasn't interested in a comfy council position. I would believe that line coming from him much more than I would someone like Kurn
@@Zezlemet (me speaking in a Dalek Scientist voice): "OF COURSE........ PERHAPS WE COULD ALWAYS LOAN HIM SOME OF OUR SUPERIOR DALEK FIREPOWER, UNLESS IF IT'S TOO MUCH TO ASK!"
While its quite obvious that Dukat despises Garak with every fiber of his being, but at the same time, its also quite clear that Dukat is well aware of Garak's capabilities. Notice how he didn't even try to argue when Garak took his place at Dukat's side? All he did was make a snide comment about Garak's duplicity, but he still accepted the help.
To be fair, both are from the military, one being from the actual hierarchy and the other the secret police. Having no tension about that would ruin their stories lol
@@DarqshadowGarak clearly would airlock Dukat if the opportunity had presented itself. See Season 3's Civil Defense Season 5's In Purgatory's Shadow & the Season 5 Finale.
Because he knows he got Dukat cornered, both literally and figuratively. Dukat knew he had no choice but to let Garak help him as he could use EVERY single Cardassian he could get.
Poor Dukat, I was rooting for him during that episode cause we love a character that can find redemption. He did his duty but lost everything so he turned to the Dominion. Garak was up there with him.
And when the Dominion abandoned him he turned to the Pah Wraiths. Dukat sold himself to whoever he thought would give him power and glory. He gave away so much, by the time he died there was almost nothing left of the man he was.
@@TheMrPeteChanneland this is where the creators and writers all, starting with G Roddenberry himself, inspired by our real world lives to create brilliant metaphorical sci-fi stories, reflect ourselves back to us to hopefully make us all think of what we as humanity presently are and the greater we could yet become - IF we desire to be better as a species and work hard enough towards creating a brighter world.✌🏾
Read the book many years ago, and loved it, it was the only Star Trek book I ever read up till recently(just started the first book in New Frontier Series, good so far). It's a shame Star Trek books aren't considered canon unless stated otherwise, because it's a great prequel.
“I’ll try to keep that in mind.” “…Garak, why are you looking at me like, you look utterly insane.” “Oh, don’t mind me, I’m just practicing my Gowron impression. I was considering the possibility I’d be able to get the honorable Chancellor’s opinion on it. What do you think?” “…I think Chancellor Gowron will find you as insufferable as I do, right now.” “Why, thank you. I was just thinking the same thing…”
why do i hear that in their voices, and why am i sad we didn't 'get' that interraction as that somehow sounds 'exactly' like something they'd say at that moment
I've always thought of it as: if the person just starts speaking another language (from what they were originally speaking), then the universal translator will assume they did it for a reason and not translate it. That, plus not translating certain insults/curses, and looking out for specific phrases that indicate a word or phrase shouldn't be translated, is what leads to how we see the universal translator work.
2:52: I love team-ups between people who hate each other but nonetheless turn out to work well together. You'd be surprised how often this happens in real life.
Odo and Quark... Every single word they ever exchanged is legendary. To me it is the most legendary frenemy storyline and rivalry in history of Star Trek. They hated each other's guts, but both knew they wouldn't be complete without the other.
ODO: Now, if I remember correctly, the Orion Syndicate has a membership fee. Quite a substantial one. And the Ferengi Commerce Authority did seize all your assets. Oh it's even worse than that, isn't it? You never could afford to join, could you? All those years of scheming and lying and cheating and you're still too small-time for the Orions. Well, I guess you're not as successful a businessman as you think you are. QUARK: Which means you've spent the last ten years of your life trying to catch a nobody. Without little success, I might add. So you tell me, which one of us is the bigger failure?
@@peteranon8455 My point exactly. If Odo ever managed to get rid of Quark from DS9, I am not exactly sure he would know what exactly to do with his life anymore.
I didn't notice that until now either. In addition, Garak should have addedat the end, "So long as you do the same." Say what you want about the differences between them and the hatred they had for each other. But they both loved their homeworld and were willing to defend it and fight for it.
wish once Bashir's genetic engineering had come to light we got to see some physicality out of him with increased reflexes and hand to hand combat (and maybe even phaser accuracy)
In S2E8 he's revealed as a better lockpicker than Quark is, and in S3E23 he makes that fancy lock. Either way, here and beyond is where his character arc really kicks off.
Quark: "I'll kill him!" Odo: "With what?" 2 days later Rom is found dead, killed by a replicator. Odo ponders the suspect list. 3:01 Robert Downey jr. walks in, points at Worf and says "That man is playing Galaga!"
This is no where close to those events, while they were very inconsistent about when Bashir was supposed to have been replaced, it was most certainly not a season and a half before the reveal... There are a lot of Bashir centric episodes between these two which make no sense if he was already replaced...
@@kreigguardsman3355 Correct, this is verified when the real Martok meets Worf at the internment camp. Martok mentions, "Yes, I've heard of you''' after Worf introduces himself. Meaning, the Martok in the Klingon invasion fleet of DS9 was in fact a Founder.
4:45 I need someone to explain why the universal translator doesn’t know one of the most famous Klingon sayings. The answer can’t be “to give the scene a better ending”… though that rack focus from Sisko to Worf to Sisko is pretty epic.
To give the scene a better ending. There’s no canon reason for why the translator occasionally doesn’t work other than the writers want it to for some reason.
@@ricflairsayswoo5894 Easily explained: Worf knew the Klingons were never going to back down and predicted this translation statement to come out from Gowron. Therefore, he disabled the UT for the phrase so he could manually translate it for the rest of the crew.
@@dannywhite648this is a great explanation if true, it would also explain all the times Klingons are talking to each other and this same thing happens. As Donna Noble would say in this situation - Veni, vidi, vici.
Gowron laughs "You are like a toothless old Grishnar cat, trying to frighten us with your roar" Sisko "I can assure you this old cat may not be as toothless as you think"
what amazed me is that (the changeling) Martok didn't think for one second that the station wouldn't have upgraded its weapons substantially from the destruction of the Odyssey, to this battle (just over a year)
What amazed me is that nobody, even people who knew Martok for a very long time, which is basically all of the main characters, especially Worf, failed to notice that this Martok has both of his eyes open, while real Martok had only one.
@@miroslavtomic7038 Martok lost his eye during the time he was held by the Dominion while the Changeling impersonator here pretended to be him. No one knew where he even was until AFTER the Changeling impersonating him was exposed by Odo and killed. He was assumed dead having been killed by the Dominion until Garak, Worf and Bashir were also taken captive by the Dominion and found themselves in that same internment camp. It was then that they saw he was missing an eye that was gouged out in a fight with a Jem'Hadar soldier.
@@JustSumGuy01 right .... bcuz the Dominion discovered that the Federation NOR the Klingons were going to be complicit with the Dominion way. but I still can't believe that the Dominion wouldn't think the Federation would upgrade the station at the AQ end of the wormhole connecting their quadrants ... after what they did to the Odyssey a year (plus) prior.
Nathan Alderson 4 months ago [in a Dalek voice] "That is a tough one. Except we Daleks do not die that easily! Our enemies shall be TOTALLY AND UTTERLY EXTERMINATED!!! EXTERMINATED!!! EXTERMINATED!!! EXTERMINATED!!! EXTERMINATED!!!"
@@andrewblanchard2398 well most races Only use disrupters they only kill they can't be modularted or change frequency for scientific purpose or have also they stun people by "disableing" them which is harsher than a stun
Benjamin himself went to Earth after what happened to the Odyssey to get the station upgrades top-level prioritized. along with bringing the Defiant out of the mothballs of the McKinley Station shipyards. he probably convinced them to bring a whole squad from the Starfleet Corps of Engineers out to do so.
It's so ridiculous to see Gul Dukhat become a central character in the final episode. He was better as a foil. the real battle between the Federation and Dominion was the real meat of the DS9 story. It's ironic that both DS9 and Babylon 5 built themselves on war only to have a weak conclusion.
B5 was kinda screwed by the network. They didnt confirm until the last minute that it would get its planned final season, so the writer rushed through the Earth Civil War arc to make sure it was finished for the fans. That arc was meant to be most of the final season, though I think the very last couple of episoes were always going to be what they were.
I disagree about Dukat. He was there at the beginning of the series, before the Dominion. He was a key driver of major events. His character's relationship to the rest of the cast evolved with the changing flow of the series. And his death at the end was the culmination of his character arc. Having sold everything he valued and believed in for his own glory, he ended as an empty puppet.
Robert O'Reilly, who played Gowron, was well known among Star Trek cast, crew and fans for messing up his lines as he found it difficult to speak clearly while wearing Gowron's mask. Therefore, they almost always simply ended up using the take in which he said his lines the best.
One thing I do not get about the view screens is they can translate languages in real time, we've seen first contacts with another spacefaring spices where both sides communicate and can understand each other. So why does the view screen not translate some things in klinon?
I always thought there should have been a scene during the upcoming battle where Quark, Nog and Jake are hiding out in the bar, the Klingons burst in, and the three of them start throwing tribbles at them. This would have worked because this episode was broadcast before the Tribbulation episode which established that the Klingons had eradicated Tribbles.
Odo may well play mind-games with the Klingons in this: including turning himself into fog just to make himself hard to kill! As well as really messing up the invasion by fowling up line of sight in the battle.
Julian's "I promise I'll be ready" carries weight, given his genetic enhancements in hand-eye coordination, stamina, vision, reflexes, weight, and height. This means he could likely go toe-to-toe with a Klingon and even anticipate attacks from others while in the middle of a fight.
I can see it now. Season 1, just after sisko gets back out of the wormhole for the first time towing dukat. “So miles/major how did you survive 3 those cardassian ships?”. Response: we bluffed their sensors to think we had 5000torpedoes, full phasers and generator upgrades. Sisko, taking notes “thank you for the starting point for the shopping list, the first requisition in case of emergencies has just been filed with federation procurement, do let me know if you can think of anything else”. A few years later we get this scene.
Worf took all of this harder than anyone as he always respected Gowron and saw him as a father figure his entire life. It was difficult enough for him having to battle such a man, let alone hearing words like that coming from him.
I can't quite remember the chronology but doesn't Quark have a disruptor that Garak uses in another episode? might be an earlier episode before it got stolen but if not...............
I appreciate the way they do it, but it seems to me like the universal translator should well translate universally. Are they not talking in Koehn all the time and having it translate backwards and forth to whatever human language is used? How does it then know to not translate a line here or there?
4:39 - the universal translator seems to have hiccups when translating Klingon. It translates 99% of it perfectly (apparently). Then suddenly starts sucking for no apparent reason. ☮
Starfleet and Cards had their wars but I always felt like they catered to them too much. Planet disputes in TNG, defended them here against Klingons. Had to work with them during Domion Occupation of DS9 and then when they defected.
Why did Worf have to translate? Are they implying the Klingons were speaking English before, and also that the automatic translators used throughout the galaxy were not active?
The chat between Dukat and Garak no doubt did happen *all over* the Eastern Bloc in its history about types of service and outmaneuvering oneanother for games of political one-ups-man-ship regarding positions of say in governance. Ironic that in the prime example thereof: to be named to the Secretary General's inner circle was a *death-sentence*, yet only a question of "When?" at that: it stands to reason that they'd have learned to keep their heads *down* and to avoid drawing attention to themselves; what with a profoundly paranoid head of state to fear. And ironically, in their case: it'd be actually safer to have to take out an entire *Panther Division* with only a loaded *pistol* than to receive a "Hero of the Soviet Union" medal from the Secretary General himself!
-You can scan the station. -Hm, damn, he`s right -It`s a trick! -Yes, that`s what I thought, thanks, those scans are so useless and never tell us if it`s a trick
>Spoiler warning, for those yet unaware< Keep in mind this was the Changeling impersonator talking, so he might've been trying to just goad Gowron to attack anyway, knowing the bloodthirsty maniac would use any excuse to just keep pushing his own agenda. Other klingons probably would've been reasonable enough to accept the scans were right, SPECIALLY the real Martok.
@@insertanynameyouwant5311 I think it's *meant* to look weird. Look at the way "Martok" fumbles his words when he's saying this is a trick, like he's coming up with this excuse on the fly. Maybe a foreshadowing of future events?
If the scans revealed nothing or were blocked, they'd know it was a bluff. If they showed the weapons, they might or might not be real. In any case, good tactical information to have.
Odo is a GOAT: "If a Klingon does manage to kill me I expect nothing less than an entire opera about it" is just badass af.
LOL. and then follow up to that with the comment to Quark: "... with what?"
Odo flexed A LOT during DS9. lol
And yet I think it was Bashir that killed him with a single shot in the mirror universe.
I would have liked to see odo hand quark a weapon and tell him. “ just be mindful that your pointing it a Klingon Quark, oh make sure your still alive so you can return it to me”. Quark nods and says “ Thanks odo, I didn’t know you cared” odo responds, “ I don’t but since your the only bar on this station we can’t let the Klingons destroy the entertainment, now can we”. Quark nods again before going into his bar and locking the door.
On the subject, not about it.
"With what?" Freaking love it.
good one Odo
Quark would probably try and snap the box shut on Rom's ears
The box obviously.
@@Pyxis10 Yep. LOL
I honestly 200% expected him to answer "I'll hit him with the box"
"An illusion created by thoron fields and duranium shadows."
I've always loved that line because it's basically the same line muttered in the first episode by the Cardassian officer as they try to decide whether or not to attack the station. Great call back.
Agreed, it was a nice touch.
DS9 didn't miss a lot in seven years.
and how would General Martok of all people know about thoron fields and duranium shadows? that's not something a Klingon is likely to know, unless Martok isnt who he appears to be.
@@deadponic117Klingons may be great warriors, but only a fool would underestimate their technical proficiency. It's just that Federation engineers make everyone else look like babies with toy hammers and wrenches. Even the Dominion admires their skill, if Keevan's opinion in Rocks and Shoals is any indicator.
@@deadponic117 Martok was one of the few highly-intelligent Klingons who wasn't interested in a comfy council position. I would believe that line coming from him much more than I would someone like Kurn
"Now witness the firepower of this fully armed and operational battle station!"--Benjamin "Don't Fuck With The" Sisko.
Quark: "I WILL KILL HIM!"
Odo: "With what?" LOL
Quark: The box obviously!
@@Zezlemet (me speaking in a Dalek Scientist voice): "OF COURSE........ PERHAPS WE COULD ALWAYS LOAN HIM SOME OF OUR SUPERIOR DALEK FIREPOWER, UNLESS IF IT'S TOO MUCH TO ASK!"
Quark:"With my bare hands, or even a broken bar stool, if needed!!"
😂 all this part needed was a laughing track, as if it were a sitcom.
While its quite obvious that Dukat despises Garak with every fiber of his being, but at the same time, its also quite clear that Dukat is well aware of Garak's capabilities. Notice how he didn't even try to argue when Garak took his place at Dukat's side? All he did was make a snide comment about Garak's duplicity, but he still accepted the help.
To be fair, both are from the military, one being from the actual hierarchy and the other the secret police. Having no tension about that would ruin their stories lol
@@DarqshadowGarak clearly would airlock Dukat if the opportunity had presented itself.
See Season 3's Civil Defense
Season 5's In Purgatory's Shadow & the Season 5 Finale.
Sisko: "I very much doubt history will agree."
Klingon: "History is written by the victors."
I think that was Sisko's point exactly.
But isn't that also what Gowron just-- *OOOOoooooooh...* 😯
He meant the opposite
The future equivalent of "I have drawn myself as the Chad/victor and you as the soyjak/loser, utterly annihilating your position."
Klingon: "History is written by the victors."
Someone: "And they get their lies found out and debunked."
Gowron: history is written by the victors
Sisko: which we will be
Garak’s eyes are amazing while he’s talking to Dukat.
Because he knows he got Dukat cornered, both literally and figuratively. Dukat knew he had no choice but to let Garak help him as he could use EVERY single Cardassian he could get.
i like the smirk on the starfleet security offer behind dukat
Garak's eyes are amazing at least 92% of all of the time.
@@itzakpoelzig330Andrew Robinson is a true treasure.
Gowron ‘Hey Martok… This is how we’ll play - you speak to Sisko first then I’ll pop out from behind you.. All dramatic like..’
The "Thoran fields..." call back was awesome.
Dukat standing there with two starfleet security officers backing him up is a WILD image
Poor Dukat, I was rooting for him during that episode cause we love a character that can find redemption. He did his duty but lost everything so he turned to the Dominion. Garak was up there with him.
And when the Dominion abandoned him he turned to the Pah Wraiths. Dukat sold himself to whoever he thought would give him power and glory. He gave away so much, by the time he died there was almost nothing left of the man he was.
more likely, he realized where the wind was blowing(again) and decided to be the first to offer Cardassia to the Dominion lmfao
Dukat probably killed hundreds of thousands of Bajorans he may have been redeemable in your eyes but to me he was always a dead man walking..
@@snatchadams69He killed thousands of Terrorists.
@@TheMrPeteChanneland this is where the creators and writers all, starting with G Roddenberry himself, inspired by our real world lives to create brilliant metaphorical sci-fi stories, reflect ourselves back to us to hopefully make us all think of what we as humanity presently are and the greater we could yet become - IF we desire to be better as a species and work hard enough towards creating a brighter world.✌🏾
Andrew Robinson (Garak) recently recorded the audiobook of "A Stitch In Time." Started listening to it, and it's so good!
Ah wow nice to know!
Maybe they'll bring the book back into print -- imagine reading along and listening to a master performer bring his own words to life!
Read the book many years ago, and loved it, it was the only Star Trek book I ever read up till recently(just started the first book in New Frontier Series, good so far). It's a shame Star Trek books aren't considered canon unless stated otherwise, because it's a great prequel.
Where can we find it?
The book is an excellent read.😊
Be careful flaunting your strength in front of Klingons, you might be promising them a good battle.
a good battle's worth dying for -every Klingon known to exist
In this case the battle was coming anyway. Nothing to be lost by trying a threat display.
“I’ll try to keep that in mind.”
“…Garak, why are you looking at me like, you look utterly insane.”
“Oh, don’t mind me, I’m just practicing my Gowron impression. I was considering the possibility I’d be able to get the honorable Chancellor’s opinion on it. What do you think?”
“…I think Chancellor Gowron will find you as insufferable as I do, right now.”
“Why, thank you. I was just thinking the same thing…”
why do i hear that in their voices, and why am i sad we didn't 'get' that interraction as that somehow sounds 'exactly' like something they'd say at that moment
Sisko: "Fuck around and find out."
There has never been a better frenemyship than Odo and Quark ❤ I fucking love those two together
“History is written by the victors” is just too perfect for the Klingon mentality.
Bobaklives It’s the reason peaceful, relatively “liberal” Kings Of England like John and Richard III are portrayed as monsters.
“History is written by the victor. History is filled with lies.”
- Capt. John Price.
@@DrewSavo He ain't wrong, as he does have a point.
The victors are always the good guys too. Weird.
@@alext5497 What a strange coincidence. What did Garak say about coincidences again?
Always love how the universal translators decide to stop working randomly
The Universal Translator could never handle Klingon.
Klingons have an override for dramatic effect.
Some words simply have no translation
@@RandomAmerican3000nor Vulcan
I've always thought of it as: if the person just starts speaking another language (from what they were originally speaking), then the universal translator will assume they did it for a reason and not translate it.
That, plus not translating certain insults/curses, and looking out for specific phrases that indicate a word or phrase shouldn't be translated, is what leads to how we see the universal translator work.
Such a strong wave of nostalgia breaks over me watching these clips of my favorite show. It's indescribable.
2:52: I love team-ups between people who hate each other but nonetheless turn out to work well together. You'd be surprised how often this happens in real life.
Not often enough it seems.
Odo and Quark... Every single word they ever exchanged is legendary. To me it is the most legendary frenemy storyline and rivalry in history of Star Trek. They hated each other's guts, but both knew they wouldn't be complete without the other.
ODO: Now, if I remember correctly, the Orion Syndicate has a membership fee. Quite a substantial one. And the Ferengi Commerce Authority did seize all your assets. Oh it's even worse than that, isn't it? You never could afford to join, could you? All those years of scheming and lying and cheating and you're still too small-time for the Orions. Well, I guess you're not as successful a businessman as you think you are.
QUARK: Which means you've spent the last ten years of your life trying to catch a nobody. Without little success, I might add. So you tell me, which one of us is the bigger failure?
@@peteranon8455 My point exactly. If Odo ever managed to get rid of Quark from DS9, I am not exactly sure he would know what exactly to do with his life anymore.
Anyone else notice that when Garak holds his phaser he's giving the finger?
Never saw that before, thank you. Andrew Robinson's performance was a masterful display of subtlety.
I didn't notice that until now either. In addition, Garak should have addedat the end, "So long as you do the same."
Say what you want about the differences between them and the hatred they had for each other. But they both loved their homeworld and were willing to defend it and fight for it.
Wow I did not notice
Good catch. I’m impressed
That Odo-Bashir interaction is so rare and so cute
it's ok just hide in the airlock you'll be safe there
I low key had such a crush on Bashir. Lol
@@raintalon6138 So did Nana Visitor! The Kira pregnancy storyline was because Alexander Siddig knocked her up
I bet their kid is beautiful.
It's possible Bashir was a changeling by then.
Garak and dukat: 2:56
Me: "THOSE ARE MY BOYS"
So completely opposite, yet so very much alike.
Props to Quark for wanting to stay and defend his bar.
With what?
Garak once again proves why he is one of the best characters on this show. XD
Give Dukat credit, he's a hands on kind of leader.
You get more glory at the front than behind the lines. And glory was what mattered most to Dukat.
Bet he sleeps in his uniform like Damar.
wish once Bashir's genetic engineering had come to light we got to see some physicality out of him with increased reflexes and hand to hand combat (and maybe even phaser accuracy)
Dukat: "The council members are well aware of my patriotism."
More accurately, the lack thereof.
The dialog between Dukat and Garak was always great stuff.👍
That side-look after he says side by side is the best part because you know Dukat hates it.
1:31 - the first hint that Rom had ACTUAL tech skills
In S2E8 he's revealed as a better lockpicker than Quark is, and in S3E23 he makes that fancy lock. Either way, here and beyond is where his character arc really kicks off.
2:29: Dukat: now why don’t you go back to your little tailor shop and sew something. 😂
I really liked the human Starfleet officers fighting alongside Dukat and Garak, it's just a shame they were both killed.
An they were killed because had to fight the temptation not to shoot Garak and Dukat in the back and the Klingons at the same time.
Quark: "I'll kill him!"
Odo: "With what?"
2 days later Rom is found dead, killed by a replicator. Odo ponders the suspect list.
3:01 Robert Downey jr. walks in, points at Worf and says "That man is playing Galaga!"
Gowron: History is written by the victors...
Ensign Victor in Ops: Wait what?
Serious situation, yet so funny at the same time.
The fact that this bashir was already the changeling makes the interaction between him and odo all the more impactfull
This is no where close to those events, while they were very inconsistent about when Bashir was supposed to have been replaced, it was most certainly not a season and a half before the reveal... There are a lot of Bashir centric episodes between these two which make no sense if he was already replaced...
Dr Bashir wasn't replaced until the early stages of season 5. probably right AFTER the Martok changeling was exposed.
I think he said he was there for a month or two now would of been too early. I think Martok at this point is a changing though
@@kreigguardsman3355 Correct, this is verified when the real Martok meets Worf at the internment camp. Martok mentions, "Yes, I've heard of you''' after Worf introduces himself. Meaning, the Martok in the Klingon invasion fleet of DS9 was in fact a Founder.
@@dhinton1 It had to have occurred before the new style uniforms were used because in the prison camp Bashir still had the old style.
This scene is so awesome, the camera angles, the delivery of "go sew something"
4:45 I need someone to explain why the universal translator doesn’t know one of the most famous Klingon sayings. The answer can’t be “to give the scene a better ending”… though that rack focus from Sisko to Worf to Sisko is pretty epic.
To give the scene a better ending.
There’s no canon reason for why the translator occasionally doesn’t work other than the writers want it to for some reason.
@@ricflairsayswoo5894 Easily explained: Worf knew the Klingons were never going to back down and predicted this translation statement to come out from Gowron. Therefore, he disabled the UT for the phrase so he could manually translate it for the rest of the crew.
There are two klingon languages the ceremonial one (think Latin) is not translated by the UT by default
@@oldtwinsna8347 oh man, it’s so obvious - I can’t believe I didn’t see that myself
@@dannywhite648this is a great explanation if true, it would also explain all the times Klingons are talking to each other and this same thing happens. As Donna Noble would say in this situation - Veni, vidi, vici.
Gowron laughs "You are like a toothless old Grishnar cat, trying to frighten us with your roar"
Sisko "I can assure you this old cat may not be as toothless as you think"
I love how sometimes they sync the score music to the scene change 01:57
what amazed me is that (the changeling) Martok didn't think for one second that the station wouldn't have upgraded its weapons substantially from the destruction of the Odyssey, to this battle (just over a year)
The Changeling wanted the Federation and the Klingons fighting each other
What amazed me is that nobody, even people who knew Martok for a very long time, which is basically all of the main characters, especially Worf, failed to notice that this Martok has both of his eyes open, while real Martok had only one.
@@miroslavtomic7038 Martok lost his eye during the time he was held by the Dominion while the Changeling impersonator here pretended to be him. No one knew where he even was until AFTER the Changeling impersonating him was exposed by Odo and killed. He was assumed dead having been killed by the Dominion until Garak, Worf and Bashir were also taken captive by the Dominion and found themselves in that same internment camp. It was then that they saw he was missing an eye that was gouged out in a fight with a Jem'Hadar soldier.
@@JustSumGuy01 right .... bcuz the Dominion discovered that the Federation NOR the Klingons were going to be complicit with the Dominion way.
but I still can't believe that the Dominion wouldn't think the Federation would upgrade the station at the AQ end of the wormhole connecting their quadrants ... after what they did to the Odyssey a year (plus) prior.
That look of pissed off defeat on Quark's face! 🤣
Excellent writing and acting!
Klingon: Chech chew jaj-Vam jaj-kak!
English: Today is a good day to die!
But who's going to die: The Klingons or the Federation?
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4 months ago [in a Dalek voice] "That is a tough one. Except we Daleks do not die that easily! Our enemies shall be TOTALLY AND UTTERLY EXTERMINATED!!! EXTERMINATED!!! EXTERMINATED!!! EXTERMINATED!!! EXTERMINATED!!!"
Gowron knew that some of both sides would be dead at the end of the day, regardless of the outcome. For Klingons there's no better way to go.
That Quark Scene is brillinat😂😂
Man this show is just so fockin good
Isn’t a disruptor illegal because it vaporizes victims?
Why didn’t Quark notice the box’s lack of weight.
Bigtruckseriesreview Motorsports or why didn’t Quark check the box before showing it off to Odo? Guess it’s funnier that he didn’t lol
Because of the weight of the paper *lol*
different races call phasers by
different names
Phasers can also vaporize. Dead is dead. What's the difference?
@@andrewblanchard2398 well most races Only use disrupters they only kill they can't be modularted or change frequency for scientific purpose or have also they stun people by "disableing" them which is harsher than a stun
"today is a good day to die" "Captain, its Monday" "Hold fire!"
I love that you included the deleted scene. It's too bad that it never made it to the episode.
I like that the two Starfleet guards pointed their guns at Garak, just how charasmatic is Dukat??
Funny that the universal translators didn’t translate “today is a good day to die”!
This is when I loved Star Trek DS9
Did anyone actually think Sisko would not arm the station to the max in a year?
Benjamin himself went to Earth after what happened to the Odyssey to get the station upgrades top-level prioritized. along with bringing the Defiant out of the mothballs of the McKinley Station shipyards. he probably convinced them to bring a whole squad from the Starfleet Corps of Engineers out to do so.
They were allies so they had no reason to care
"He said 'Today is a good day to die'"
"Weird that our universal translators wouldn't pick up on that..."
“He said ‘today is a good day to die’”. This ep is arguably ds9s best.
No wonder the two starfleet guys end up dead later, they must've been stressed as hell with Dukat and Garak's banter.
sometimes your enemies can be your allies if you use them right.
-Garak ... probably
Kingkongs planning the invasion of Kardashians.
Guards down the end of corridor without any cover. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.
The universal translator sometimes decides to take a break to give certain sentences more weight.
'You're going to hit him with a box?"
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Mister House ended up exploring space after all ;3
Dukat knows not to let Garak stand behind him AFTER the last Klingon falls.
It's so ridiculous to see Gul Dukhat become a central character in the final episode. He was better as a foil. the real battle between the Federation and Dominion was the real meat of the DS9 story.
It's ironic that both DS9 and Babylon 5 built themselves on war only to have a weak conclusion.
B5 was kinda screwed by the network. They didnt confirm until the last minute that it would get its planned final season, so the writer rushed through the Earth Civil War arc to make sure it was finished for the fans. That arc was meant to be most of the final season, though I think the very last couple of episoes were always going to be what they were.
@@233Deadman in what way do you think b 5 had a weak final. the last episode were Sheridan dies is great in my opinion.
@@supersaiyaman11589 The very final episodes were a good finale, but the rest of season 5 wasn't as good in my opinion.
@@233Deadman Same here.
I disagree about Dukat. He was there at the beginning of the series, before the Dominion. He was a key driver of major events. His character's relationship to the rest of the cast evolved with the changing flow of the series. And his death at the end was the culmination of his character arc. Having sold everything he valued and believed in for his own glory, he ended as an empty puppet.
Are those Klingons REALLY dumb enough to test The Sisko?
This is Gowron, the Man with the Eyes. He relishes the test.
Dude, it's crazy eyes gowron. He'd attack the entire borg collective and laugh while he does.
We're dealing with mostly GenZ klingons here 😂
Garrak had the chance to take Dukat out but didn't wanna fight the Klingons by himself, darn it! 😂
Am I imagining things or was the sequence with Quark slightly sped up?
I love Garak's eyes when he said "I'll try to keep that in mind" It saiys first chance I get tou are mine
was this changling martok?
I think Gowron said "Catchup and Mustard" LOL
Robert O'Reilly, who played Gowron, was well known among Star Trek cast, crew and fans for messing up his lines as he found it difficult to speak clearly while wearing Gowron's mask. Therefore, they almost always simply ended up using the take in which he said his lines the best.
One thing I do not get about the view screens is they can translate languages in real time, we've seen first contacts with another spacefaring spices where both sides communicate and can understand each other.
So why does the view screen not translate some things in klinon?
I expect nothing less than an entire opera about it LOL
I always thought there should have been a scene during the upcoming battle where Quark, Nog and Jake are hiding out in the bar, the Klingons burst in, and the three of them start throwing tribbles at them.
This would have worked because this episode was broadcast before the Tribbulation episode which established that the Klingons had eradicated Tribbles.
Couldn't you use the repaired replicator to make a new disruptor?
"Today, is a good day to die"
John McClain! Stay out of this" 😊😊😊😊
Odo may well play mind-games with the Klingons in this: including turning himself into fog just to make himself hard to kill! As well as really messing up the invasion by fowling up line of sight in the battle.
And our right to party!
Julian's "I promise I'll be ready" carries weight, given his genetic enhancements in hand-eye coordination, stamina, vision, reflexes, weight, and height. This means he could likely go toe-to-toe with a Klingon and even anticipate attacks from others while in the middle of a fight.
The sacrifices that I endured in defense of Kardasia!
I can see it now. Season 1, just after sisko gets back out of the wormhole for the first time towing dukat. “So miles/major how did you survive 3 those cardassian ships?”.
Response: we bluffed their sensors to think we had 5000torpedoes, full phasers and generator upgrades.
Sisko, taking notes “thank you for the starting point for the shopping list, the first requisition in case of emergencies has just been filed with federation procurement, do let me know if you can think of anything else”.
A few years later we get this scene.
The funny thing about Quark in this scene is the fact we all know as soon as he saw a Klingon coming towards him he'd run screaming
The look on Worf's face when he translated Gowron's words for Sisko. One of deep disappointment and resignation.
He knew what those words mean to Klingons. Hell, he's used them himself.
Having been present at the opening shots of the Klingon civil war, he was probably thinking "ah shit, here we go again..."
Worf took all of this harder than anyone as he always respected Gowron and saw him as a father figure his entire life. It was difficult enough for him having to battle such a man, let alone hearing words like that coming from him.
I can't quite remember the chronology but doesn't Quark have a disruptor that Garak uses in another episode? might be an earlier episode before it got stolen but if not...............
Universal translator not working at the end of the clip?
I appreciate the way they do it, but it seems to me like the universal translator should well translate universally. Are they not talking in Koehn all the time and having it translate backwards and forth to whatever human language is used? How does it then know to not translate a line here or there?
4:39 - the universal translator seems to have hiccups when translating Klingon.
It translates 99% of it perfectly (apparently).
Then suddenly starts sucking for no apparent reason.
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I wish there was a Odo & Quark series.
The morally dubious characters of this show were the best.
This is changeling Martok, FYI.
With What!? .laughed till I have tears.
Cpt. Sisko was the epitome of FAFO
Starfleet and Cards had their wars but I always felt like they catered to them too much. Planet disputes in TNG, defended them here against Klingons. Had to work with them during Domion Occupation of DS9 and then when they defected.
Was Martok a changeling at this point?
Yes
Why did Worf have to translate? Are they implying the Klingons were speaking English before, and also that the automatic translators used throughout the galaxy were not active?
The chat between Dukat and Garak no doubt did happen *all over* the Eastern Bloc in its history about types of service and outmaneuvering oneanother for games of political one-ups-man-ship regarding positions of say in governance.
Ironic that in the prime example thereof: to be named to the Secretary General's inner circle was a *death-sentence*, yet only a question of "When?" at that: it stands to reason that they'd have learned to keep their heads *down* and to avoid drawing attention to themselves; what with a profoundly paranoid head of state to fear. And ironically, in their case: it'd be actually safer to have to take out an entire *Panther Division* with only a loaded *pistol* than to receive a "Hero of the Soviet Union" medal from the Secretary General himself!
-You can scan the station.
-Hm, damn, he`s right
-It`s a trick!
-Yes, that`s what I thought, thanks, those scans are so useless and never tell us if it`s a trick
>Spoiler warning, for those yet unaware<
Keep in mind this was the Changeling impersonator talking, so he might've been trying to just goad Gowron to attack anyway, knowing the bloodthirsty maniac would use any excuse to just keep pushing his own agenda.
Other klingons probably would've been reasonable enough to accept the scans were right, SPECIALLY the real Martok.
@@MrDibara I`m aware of everything happened, still that`s weird
@@insertanynameyouwant5311 I think it's *meant* to look weird. Look at the way "Martok" fumbles his words when he's saying this is a trick, like he's coming up with this excuse on the fly. Maybe a foreshadowing of future events?
The thing is, duranium shadows is the exact trick Sisko used in season 1 against Cardassians. It's not unreasonable that the Klingons learned of this.
If the scans revealed nothing or were blocked, they'd know it was a bluff. If they showed the weapons, they might or might not be real. In any case, good tactical information to have.
History may be written by the victors but it also written by the bystanders.