That was me all the time..I used to stall all the time and get embarrassed so I thought hey let me add so much throttle, but now I add just a tiny bit while in my fraction zone and my starts are smooth 😮
Most bikes have a wet clutch. Its helpful to ride the clutch when turning sharp and slow as you have more control. Moving away with a little ride of the clutch is not going to cause any issues for a new rider and not make the bike jerk forwards.
Agreed I have a feeling a mechanic told him this. I've blown through hinsen clutches in one race... clutches come and go even if you ride the bikes soft.
That’s totally situation and bike dependent lol. Same thing with manual cars, are you starting on a hill, does your bike/ car have plenty of power, what kind of gearing it has ( my old 06 Jetta was geared stupid low on first, could start moving uphill without any throttle at all) Either way you’ll need at least a bit of throttle in a fair amount of situations
@@mudtennis9842Yeah, plus u do need to give a lot more gas when for example you're on a really steep hill and need to take off. You aren't just going to release the clutch quickly like when you are on a flat surface. I've only hear abt Ducatis sport bikes having a dry clutch that u can't hold for too long. But 90% of bike's clutches are bathed in oil. Nothing will happen.
I haven’t rode my own street bike yet, but I plan to, soon. I’m about to buy a project bike to rebuild so I can become from with the mechanics. I want to be familiar with all things motorcycle so I’ve just been doing plenty of research. Thank you so much for sharing! I hope you continue to share these important details that are so commonly overlooked. Please continue to help us with the necessary information to maintain our bikes health and longevity. Peace love, and safety brother 💪🏾💙🙏🏾
No. Wet clutches and dry clutches have the exact same upsides and downsides, regardless of how it's made. The bonus to wet clutches is that the oil protects it from normal operation overheating. If you're doing this to your clutch though, you're not operating normally. The oil actually causes overheating. Improper riding will damage both clutch types.
1. Motorcycles (most od them) have wet clutch so there is no "dry friction". Half clutch maneuvers are not that harmful like in a typical manual car. 2. Old type carburetor engines don't have a computer-controlled engine revs increase during the starting.
It's actually a lack of friction when the clutch is slipping. You want those clutches to grab with as much friction as possible. Don't think the wet clutches will be much affected by a little slip either. If you own a Ducati though, may want to see if it's a dry clutch.
This is only important on dry clutch systems like the Ducati V4’s or older models. Most modern bikes are a wet clutch system that uses fluid to keep the clutch from getting too hot.
@@Critastic idk what bike you ride, but some bikes you CAN'T ease into the throttle. My r1 is basically either off or on when it comes to the throttle. I've literally sat off the bike with it in neutral and TRIED to give it just enough throttle to raise the rpm's a few hundred rpm's. It doesn't happen. The best I get is going from idle with me not turning it to it revving to about 4k rpms with the absolute smallest amount of throttle I can give it as possible. On top of that, a lot of bikes(including my r1) jerk when adding throttle from closed. This can cause issues when taking off or when doing low speed maneuvers. So, in this case, your only real choice is to use the clutch to regulate the power going to your rear tire while holding the rpms at a little above idle to do what you gotta do.
Good demo but I would use the foot break when stopping for a light. Literally all I need to do is release the brake while I let the clutch come up and twist the throttle (gently). Takes a half second to get going.
Taking off from an incline or hill is a little bit tricky, you need to hold the rear brake & find the friction zone with your clutch and give it a little bit of throttle (all at the same time) as soon as you feel the bike pull a little bit then you must release the rear brakes and give it throttle! It takes a lot of practice tbh
@@LuisSanchez-vu6uvnah, 3/4 times, losing fear, and its ok... and remember use gas and drop clutch at same time (slowly) and it will come out more fluid (just dont take 6h to move, its not good for your bike)
Dude thanks for this..I just got my little 300cc bike and I was terrible at moving from a stop, putting so much throttle input for fear of stalling and now my starts are smooth man..I almost cried 😅
@@fugitivetattooi want to get a full sleeve tattoo with many different ideas but i think maybe i should start small and just get one idea at a time that can later be turned into a full single piece of art rather than a dozen different pieces
@lostpockets2227 Think of a theme and tell your artist. let them lay out some rough sketches for you with a color palette. Now that theme, dont overthink it, go with your gut. Get in the chair and ride the lightnin fella! It will all begin to come together. It always does. Jesus loves you 🙏
Add this to the list of things riders use to look down on new riders that don't actually make a difference. In his demonstration, he's nowhere near burning the clutch.
In car terms we also call this riding the clutch. Sometimes in stop n go traffic you kinda have to to avoid people cutting in front of you but it hurts my soul
Thank you SO much for sending love to all Supersport bike clutches! Wished for this kind of video for soon 24 years! :-P (Driving Honda CBR600RR 2003 is still in mint condition. One owner=Me).
Dude over been watching motovloggers for years. Never seen this stuff lol. My best friend died on a bike so I'm finally getting the courage to get some.. My wife agreed. We will start with Honda Navi's as it's what we're both comfortable with starting on. They're automatic. I have more bikes in mind for the future and will use this knowledge when I get there. Thanks man!
@@F80mthree I second what this man says. I took a look at the bike you're getting, and I guarantee if you enjoy riding, you will get bored with this bike quickly.
I had a grom and fully built it. It was cool for all of about 3 months man.. Get you a drz 400 supermoto to learn on. Plus to this is, you can go off road! Which means you can learn how to ride off of public roads which takes a ton of anxiety out of the equation bud, but if that’s what you really want, go for it! Don’t listen to what me or anyone else says
@@F80mthreenah, I had a 625 SMC-R and highly strung supermoto bikes would suck for a new rider. They’re only fun when you’re doing stupid shit on them, which a new rider can’t do. Terrible range and awkwardly high seat, guaranteed a new rider will drop it when they stop on an uneven surface, knocking their confidence.
I used to drag race a zx6r, I would launch it at 14,000. It would run high 9's all stock motor. The clutch plates would be blue, but that's the only way to be fast on a 600.
Jyst ride.:ride a lot! And all the important stuff will come naturally. I think anybody that wants to ride street bike should ride dirt bike first! It will teach you much more and help you avoid mistakes on the road . Riding is serious ,and many BAD driver’s! Get some skills undeg your belt first before twisting the throttle !🤙🏽
Yea but a wet clutch most definitely changes the result. These sport bikes take as much oil as a car but all in the clutch housing, it’s not quite the same
I sometimes give it a little extra throttle to make sure the vehicles around are aware that I'm there , i don't rev it but i do ride it a bit as well as it being a wet clutch , designed to withstand that
I have a 1981 yamaha virago 750 and I have to get it up to a minimum of 3000 rpm, mabye 2500 if im lucky just to keep it from stalling while starting to move from a stop in 1st gear. Learn your motorcycle and what it needs to go from point A to B efficiently. Each bikes friction zone and rpm needs are different. Listen to your machine and your machine will listen to you.
Fiber plates are a wear item like brake pads a new clutch pack of just fiber plates is about 100 dollars. If they get too thin the clutch will slip at high RPMs. The thickness is a spec in the service manual if they are thinner than spec the clutch is worn and needs replacement. Wheelie clutch slapps and high throttle drag racing will wear your clutch quicker.
Sounds like my phone heard me doing it. Thanks for spying on me at the right time. You confirmed my suspicions. I rode like a dickhead today because I took too long a break and got over confident.
Never drove a bike but if it's anything like a manual car if you just ease off the clutch slowly you will feel the car start to pull then you can give little gas . Atleast it's like that for a car idk if it is for a bike
Just bought a r1m, it shakes like crazy letting out nice and easy, have to give it throttle to stop that but i feel like i'm giving it too much. I'm an experienced rider but first time on a r1m so idk if i'm just doing it wrong
There's a ton of value in city riding safety for learning how to take off fast. IE- people in cars not looking for bikes in front of them and taking off when they see the cars next to them go, they dont even look up from their phones they just take off. Seen it happen enough times to not take chances. There's no way to do that without revving higher than necessary. Also a car not stopping in time behind you at a red light, if youre going forward even a light bit could make a little to a lot of difference.
The cool thing about the 2024 Ninja ZX6R, is that once you find the friction zone, and accelerate up to like 10mph, and slowly release the clutch, without applying any throttle, the bike continues to coast.
Beginner riders do this from fear of stalling out in traffic.
That was me all the time..I used to stall all the time and get embarrassed so I thought hey let me add so much throttle, but now I add just a tiny bit while in my fraction zone and my starts are smooth 😮
@@easye1311ride on...stay safe
A good clutch doesn't need throttle to slang ya into first ;)
@@GnarGnarAdarit does in traffic to let your clutch go faster
new rider here, I don't stall cause I burn up my clutch lol
Most bikes have a wet clutch. Its helpful to ride the clutch when turning sharp and slow as you have more control. Moving away with a little ride of the clutch is not going to cause any issues for a new rider and not make the bike jerk forwards.
Agreed I have a feeling a mechanic told him this. I've blown through hinsen clutches in one race... clutches come and go even if you ride the bikes soft.
But even in those cases you’re not really giving it a lot of gas
Yeah to be fair I didn’t know they were wet clutches when I first started riding.
i thought that with the wet clutch it is harder to burn up opposed to the dry clutch that some of these bikes come with
Yeah its ok but those are bad habits to build@@gabrielvittone5645
My instructor in my msf class said ride the clutch as much as you want cause they are wet system not like a cars
Ride it, yes. That doesn't mean ride it at 4000 rpm.
@@mkultraificationYup, riding is different than burning
Not like cars?
Cars clutch isnt in oil@@ragingwarrior567
@@mkultraificationI don’t my CBT 2 days ago and my instructor said keep revs at 4K keep the engine busy… now I’m hearing different things
When u find the friction zone on the clutch u don’t even need to give it throttle
What kind of bike do you ride😂?
@@BenDover-qi8qj you don't ride.
fr bro i can’t let clutch out all the way before i even need to give throttle
That’s totally situation and bike dependent lol.
Same thing with manual cars, are you starting on a hill, does your bike/ car have plenty of power, what kind of gearing it has ( my old 06 Jetta was geared stupid low on first, could start moving uphill without any throttle at all)
Either way you’ll need at least a bit of throttle in a fair amount of situations
@@BenDover-qi8qjworks on my husky u must not ride🤷🏼♂️
It’s a wet clutch no comparison to a car
Yeah this guys has no clue what he’s on about
@@mudtennis9842Yeah, plus u do need to give a lot more gas when for example you're on a really steep hill and need to take off. You aren't just going to release the clutch quickly like when you are on a flat surface. I've only hear abt Ducatis sport bikes having a dry clutch that u can't hold for too long. But 90% of bike's clutches are bathed in oil. Nothing will happen.
The concept is still the same, that's what he's getting at.
Most bikes have a wet clutch compared to a cars clutch
I haven’t rode my own street bike yet, but I plan to, soon. I’m about to buy a project bike to rebuild so I can become from with the mechanics. I want to be familiar with all things motorcycle so I’ve just been doing plenty of research. Thank you so much for sharing! I hope you continue to share these important details that are so commonly overlooked. Please continue to help us with the necessary information to maintain our bikes health and longevity. Peace love, and safety brother 💪🏾💙🙏🏾
Since when Mr. Ballen become a motor expert?
Real
Lmfao only reason why I click this video hahahahaha
At least this version don't bs you for 30 minutes with a wack tale 😂😂
our mans on a different adventure!
I'm a new rider and this helps a lot, thank you brother 🤙🏻🤙🏻
As a new rider, i appreciate your videos. Thank you!
Aren’t the wet clutches meant to take the burn?
No. Wet clutches and dry clutches have the exact same upsides and downsides, regardless of how it's made.
The bonus to wet clutches is that the oil protects it from normal operation overheating. If you're doing this to your clutch though, you're not operating normally. The oil actually causes overheating. Improper riding will damage both clutch types.
Stupid answer. Read it to yourself. You contradicted you point in less than a paragraph…
@@Tazytots Ummm, wrong.
Just subscribed because I’m learning about motorcycles
But them revs sound nice...One sounds exciting, the other depressing. 🤣
1. Motorcycles (most od them) have wet clutch so there is no "dry friction". Half clutch maneuvers are not that harmful like in a typical manual car.
2. Old type carburetor engines don't have a computer-controlled engine revs increase during the starting.
I tend to give it abit if a rev before setting off..purely due to I love the sound of my engine and exhaust! 😊
The way you showed how not to do it and then the right way was extremely helpful for me learning how to ride thanks
Wass upp duued, love the energy man W
It's actually a lack of friction when the clutch is slipping. You want those clutches to grab with as much friction as possible. Don't think the wet clutches will be much affected by a little slip either. If you own a Ducati though, may want to see if it's a dry clutch.
Thanks for the advice 🙏
Buddy didnt pay attention to the low speed manuvering part of the msf course
Thank you for this when the time comes ill put all your techniques to the test 💪🏾
Love these types of videos.
This is only important on dry clutch systems like the Ducati V4’s or older models.
Most modern bikes are a wet clutch system that uses fluid to keep the clutch from getting too hot.
Does the Suzuki 125 gsxr? (2023)
That’s just an excuse to not learn properly. You’re riding a motorcycle, do it properly.
@@Critastic idk what bike you ride, but some bikes you CAN'T ease into the throttle. My r1 is basically either off or on when it comes to the throttle. I've literally sat off the bike with it in neutral and TRIED to give it just enough throttle to raise the rpm's a few hundred rpm's. It doesn't happen. The best I get is going from idle with me not turning it to it revving to about 4k rpms with the absolute smallest amount of throttle I can give it as possible. On top of that, a lot of bikes(including my r1) jerk when adding throttle from closed. This can cause issues when taking off or when doing low speed maneuvers. So, in this case, your only real choice is to use the clutch to regulate the power going to your rear tire while holding the rpms at a little above idle to do what you gotta do.
Thanks Stifler i appreciate it
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Sometimes we need to pull more throttle in bumper to bumper traffic or in sudden move
That’s why you filter. You can’t trust other road users as you don’t know if they are servicing their vehicles regularly.
@@VoiAhoyTV filter means?
@@Northeastindianchinkisplit lanes
@@Northeastindianchinkiare you racist or something?
@@VoiAhoyTV Filtering is illegal in a lot of states. Although I do agree getting pulled over is better than getting sandwhiched
May the force be with yall dry clutch
The added gay backpack and gloves was a must need for this video 😂
Everytime he wears that backpack it wears it out don't forget😂
Is this mr Ballens surfer dude cousin 😂. Hearing him say “wassaaaahh dude” brightens my day 👍🏻
Live & ya learn. Practice makes better!
Good demo but I would use the foot break when stopping for a light. Literally all I need to do is release the brake while I let the clutch come up and twist the throttle (gently). Takes a half second to get going.
What about stopping on an incline or hill?
Taking off from an incline or hill is a little bit tricky, you need to hold the rear brake & find the friction zone with your clutch and give it a little bit of throttle (all at the same time) as soon as you feel the bike pull a little bit then you must release the rear brakes and give it throttle! It takes a lot of practice tbh
@@LuisSanchez-vu6uvnah, 3/4 times, losing fear, and its ok... and remember use gas and drop clutch at same time (slowly) and it will come out more fluid (just dont take 6h to move, its not good for your bike)
My 125cc BEGS for gas to accelerate 😭
His into for his videos makes me laugh. Mix of surfer and skater combined.
This vid too real. Props my g
I do this all the time thanks for the tip bro 😅
What about some protective clothing Mr. Expert ?
Dude thanks for this..I just got my little 300cc bike and I was terrible at moving from a stop, putting so much throttle input for fear of stalling and now my starts are smooth man..I almost cried 😅
This should be titled Clutch Burn CB, No BURN Clutch NBC!
Thanks ... I'm still learning not to burn my clutch too much
On a lower cc bikes is quite easy to stall the engine adding low throttle
Big deal, during winter, replace the clutch plates.
lol. If you like to waste money, sure. Go ahead.
@RJMStraya But I do get it. You have to generate content. Thats the name of the game.
Thank you and may the Road Gods be with you.
@@fugitivetattooi want to get a full sleeve tattoo with many different ideas but i think maybe i should start small and just get one idea at a time that can later be turned into a full single piece of art rather than a dozen different pieces
@lostpockets2227 Think of a theme
and tell your artist.
let them lay out some rough sketches for you with a color palette.
Now that theme, dont overthink it,
go with your gut.
Get in the chair and
ride the lightnin fella!
It will all begin to come together. It always does.
Jesus loves you 🙏
@@fugitivetattoo thank you so much 🥹🙏
Mr.Ballen, didnt know you are riding!
Add this to the list of things riders use to look down on new riders that don't actually make a difference. In his demonstration, he's nowhere near burning the clutch.
thats a nice bike man
Kawasaki Ninja ZX-6R
Thanks bro. Didn’t even know that was a thing.
In car terms we also call this riding the clutch. Sometimes in stop n go traffic you kinda have to to avoid people cutting in front of you but it hurts my soul
i liked it. Clean, smooth.
What about when you’re on a steep uphill ? I don’t I’m fairly new at riding 😅
Glad I watch all this videos.. I have noticed so many things I do wrong. 💀
Ilove the back pack may we know its male and model? Thnkz
First example is perfect if you’re racing ❤
Second example is perfect if you’re cruising ❤️
Thank you SO much for sending love to all Supersport bike clutches! Wished for this kind of video for soon 24 years! :-P (Driving Honda CBR600RR 2003 is still in mint condition. One owner=Me).
The clutch is just fine. Been racing for years and I rape my clutch 24/7 still not slipping. 🤷♂️
I’ve been driving manual since I was 16 and riding motorcycles/dirt bikes since 15. I always said riding the clutch
Thank you 🎉😢
Love your channel dude! New sub here! 🫡
What model gloves are these?
Good video btw.
Mild exception: Inclining surfaces.
Dude over been watching motovloggers for years. Never seen this stuff lol. My best friend died on a bike so I'm finally getting the courage to get some.. My wife agreed. We will start with Honda Navi's as it's what we're both comfortable with starting on. They're automatic. I have more bikes in mind for the future and will use this knowledge when I get there. Thanks man!
Get a wr450f supermoto. Great learner friendly bike that will help you learn the fundamentals while not being a boring starter bike.
@@F80mthree I second what this man says. I took a look at the bike you're getting, and I guarantee if you enjoy riding, you will get bored with this bike quickly.
I had a grom and fully built it. It was cool for all of about 3 months man.. Get you a drz 400 supermoto to learn on. Plus to this is, you can go off road! Which means you can learn how to ride off of public roads which takes a ton of anxiety out of the equation bud, but if that’s what you really want, go for it! Don’t listen to what me or anyone else says
@@F80mthreenah, I had a 625 SMC-R and highly strung supermoto bikes would suck for a new rider. They’re only fun when you’re doing stupid shit on them, which a new rider can’t do. Terrible range and awkwardly high seat, guaranteed a new rider will drop it when they stop on an uneven surface, knocking their confidence.
Thoughts on launch control? Sounds pretty much like melting your clutch
Is it bad i take off in second gear?? Like always haha 😅 barely use first gear lol
I used to drag race a zx6r, I would launch it at 14,000. It would run high 9's all stock motor. The clutch plates would be blue, but that's the only way to be fast on a 600.
Mr. Ballen "you hear all that throaaaattle"
Jyst ride.:ride a lot! And all the important stuff will come naturally. I think anybody that wants to ride street bike should ride dirt bike first! It will teach you much more and help you avoid mistakes on the road .
Riding is serious ,and many BAD driver’s!
Get some skills undeg your belt first before twisting the throttle !🤙🏽
lol it’s crazy how I subscribed after that smoothie tutorial because man I hate to hear rider burning out their clutch
Thanks man
Where are the gloves from?
Slight sidebar... We're not gonna acknowledge how sick his exhaust sounds, huh? Okay. Well I will.
In Brazil, we don't even burn out so much clutch to do a wheelie just that bit (_____)
Friction Zone
There's a reason new riders are taught this.
Sure. But that ain't fun.
Besides; those clutches are designed to do that.
Yea but a wet clutch most definitely changes the result. These sport bikes take as much oil as a car but all in the clutch housing, it’s not quite the same
Depends if your after clutch longevity, a holeshot
Or a double blip
Like to see that on a sports bike lol
I sometimes give it a little extra throttle to make sure the vehicles around are aware that I'm there , i don't rev it but i do ride it a bit as well as it being a wet clutch , designed to withstand that
ya but why wear out plates?? just fucking pull in the the clutch if you want to rev ur engine or just take off normally and give it gas
Correct 💯 and amazing
I have a 1981 yamaha virago 750 and I have to get it up to a minimum of 3000 rpm, mabye 2500 if im lucky just to keep it from stalling while starting to move from a stop in 1st gear. Learn your motorcycle and what it needs to go from point A to B efficiently. Each bikes friction zone and rpm needs are different. Listen to your machine and your machine will listen to you.
THANKS 🎉
I do this, thx for the tip
@whynot_ride what gloves are those ? Need a pair to match my bike
How are you burning up a wet clutch?
Fiber plates are a wear item like brake pads a new clutch pack of just fiber plates is about 100 dollars. If they get too thin the clutch will slip at high RPMs. The thickness is a spec in the service manual if they are thinner than spec the clutch is worn and needs replacement. Wheelie clutch slapps and high throttle drag racing will wear your clutch quicker.
In movies we hear that 😂😂😂😂😂
MrBallen switched career 😂😂😂😂
Great tip, the other extreme is to lug your engine by not giving enough throttle.
Sounds like my phone heard me doing it. Thanks for spying on me at the right time.
You confirmed my suspicions. I rode like a dickhead today because I took too long a break and got over confident.
Give this man a like, for a demonstrating the difference.😂
I didn't know Deacon St. John rode a sport bike.
Never drove a bike but if it's anything like a manual car if you just ease off the clutch slowly you will feel the car start to pull then you can give little gas . Atleast it's like that for a car idk if it is for a bike
Great video well explain
Sometimes you have to over rev to catch the weight of the back and get a good take off either done to be fast or while going up a hill
Or the classic Honda Accord that has to rev to the moon 5 times While letting the clutch out 😂
Just bought a r1m, it shakes like crazy letting out nice and easy, have to give it throttle to stop that but i feel like i'm giving it too much. I'm an experienced rider but first time on a r1m so idk if i'm just doing it wrong
There's a ton of value in city riding safety for learning how to take off fast. IE- people in cars not looking for bikes in front of them and taking off when they see the cars next to them go, they dont even look up from their phones they just take off. Seen it happen enough times to not take chances. There's no way to do that without revving higher than necessary. Also a car not stopping in time behind you at a red light, if youre going forward even a light bit could make a little to a lot of difference.
Motorcycle have wet clutch. This Why in riding school they tell you to utilize the clutch when learning. You can burn it out like in a manual car.
You tour on sports bike?
Beginners do this to stop themselves from stalling. I do it to pop that wheel up off the lights 😊
Can u ride with pure clutch until fully released or is the clutch never fully released
You release the clutch, the clutch should only be engaged for stop/start and shifting (you can clutchless shift aswell)
Very informative, good video
The cool thing about the 2024 Ninja ZX6R, is that once you find the friction zone, and accelerate up to like 10mph, and slowly release the clutch, without applying any throttle, the bike continues to coast.
I still do this from time to time and I’ve been on like my whole life so don’t feel bad if any of the new riders do this lmfao