HEY CLAMMIE NOOB YOU NEED TO GET A 2020 OR NEWER ONE AND DO A FULL EXHAUST HI FLOW AIR FILTER AND FLASH THE COMPUTER THEN TELL ME HOW IT IS TILL THEN YOUR JUST BEING A SPEC SHEET WORRIER. THEN GIVE IT AWAY AS A GIVE A WAY BIKE. THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT WITH CRED.
sad thing the entrant eligibility doesnt extend to canada. getting my license soon and having a bike to go with it would be perfect since its so hard to get past the initial price barrier
This bike is legit the perfect starter motorcycle. IDK why your hating on it so hard. It’s not too much power that is unforgiving to a newbie but also enough power to not get tired of the bike after three months
number up. buy bigger number, number higher i buy. insect shape, remind of things cause pain, i buy. good name, color like old quake death water. good bike. can't wait higher number.
I started on a Ninja 650 and I think it's one of the perfect bikes. It's enough power for 99% of people, it's not a too aggressive riding position, it gets decent gas mileage, looks good, and you won't get bored of it like a 250/300/400. It's good at everything
unless you are planning on bombing around at 200kph everywhere you go you will never be bored on a 250/300/400. I keep being surprised by how much power an R3 actually has.
I honestly don't see very much difference between the ninja 400 and the ninja 650. I currently own the 400 but would upgrade to a ZX6R to get a noticeable change rather than just a very minor one.
The 650 only has like 20 more hp than the 400 does. It's not really worth the pricetag considering it doesn't have anywhere near the performance or features of the zx6r. And it's ergos make it more of an entry level sport touring motorcycle than a real sportbike.
Bought one almost a year ago as my first bike and I couldn't be happier. Done roadtrips on it and commute to work with it and it's never let me down. Couldn't get a bigger and more powerful bike due to A2 restrictions in germany but as a 20 yo with a new Ninja 650 I can't complain at all. Friends have ridden it aswell and they absolutely love it aswell. Can only recommend it to anyone entering the bike world or anyone who wants a reliable daily machine
@@samwayne9000 35kw / 46 hp is the limiter for A2. Basically all sub 500cc bikes stay within 35kw power for this exact reason (Honda CB500 line, Ninja 400, the old MT03 with 650 single engine, etc).
Not everyone wants a low torque 4 cylinder screaming bike where you’re rowing the shifter far more often with a 4 cylinder. He keeps on claiming it’s nothing but a stepping stone bike but believe it or not, it sells well for a reason. This, life is a racetrack mentality is a fantasy. Public roads aren’t racetracks, and if you ride like they are, you won’t be riding for long.
@@achaean7615 emotionally and theoretically I agree with you. Too much to text. Riding since '75. I own two dozen motorcycles. I sold over 30 bikes last two years. Live near twisty mountain roads. In a parallel argument, I don't want limitations on my AR-15 or pistol as you don't want limits on your motorcycle. My 919 Hornet and my FZ1 may have been considered track bikes in the '80s. I had a V65 Sabre back then. But having riders without self-control and bikes without limits is bad for the rest of us. I hate to be on this side of the argument but I'm already not allowed to have a full auto AR-15 nor a Glock 18. I would love to see street legal 125cc to 250cc track bikes though. It really is difficult to justify 150 mph plus motorcycles on public roads. They are lethal to others, not just the biker.
@@JSAF0 You are right, the stupid came through loud and clear. There actually is one incident of a guy welding armor plate to a bulldozer and driving it through a town destroying buildings! So tell us, Which public roads do you take advantage of the full capacity and capabilities of your track bike?
Its a sports Tourer not a racebike. So if you want some wind protection and you don't want one of those ugly touring or adventure bikes this is a great choice imo.
@@yammienoob I need your unbiased proefessional opinion. At heart I love sport bikes and would prefer a Zx6r but insurance is very high here over in the UK and I have 6/12 penalty points from speeding 😂 so it doesnt help. I was looking at the MT07 or Ninja 650 as my 1st bike. What would you go for?
Riding motorcycles is about the experience not data sets, sorry my guy. The Ninja 650 is the trapper keeper of motorcycles functional practical non offensive and most importantly inherently lame.
@@rival2028 try them both, why need someones opinion if you can ride them yourself, I am learning how to ride on a Mt07 it's quite fun and maybe insurance is cheaper on it because it's not a "race" bike. That's how Netherlands sees it reason I will get that over the ninja most likely because cheaper xD
I'm a brand new Rider and I picked up an 2023 Ninja 650. At 32 years old, I did a lot of research before choosing this bike and debated going for something lower powered like the Ninja 400 or Yam R3. Never been more happy with my choice. In this video Yammie brings up good points, there are similar bikes that do it better. But for the price point, reliability and forgiveness to noobs still learning, I think this is the best over all choice.
So glad to read this review. A shop by me has a brand new 650 on sale and the price is hard to pass. I have a smaller bike currently but ready to move up.
@myooyoke I’m debating between the ninja 400 or the ninja 650 I’m also a new rider and like the 400 but it’s so thin the 660 just looks better but I heard the 400 is better because weight to power ratio but I like both can’t decide honestly
Don't feel bad. Noobie Yams likes to 💩 on all Kawasaki 650 motorcycles. (The Versys and the Z-650, too). Idk, but he seems to give low ratings to all Kawasaki motorcycles. He's a Yammie and he's a Turbo Lover.
@@andrewroberts6123hit the nail on the head. His moniker says it all. His favorite brand will never surpass Kawasaki. Videos like these show the envy. Also, clowns like these, and there are many, use speed and horsepower (Supersport) bikes as a measuring stick for manhood. Last I checked, there’s speed limits in the U.S. You pull that sh*t here and you’ll most likely go to jail, have your bike impounded, lose your license, spend exorbitant amounts of money in legal fees, get dropped by your insurance carrier(good luck getting insurance after that), and possibly wind up in a world of hurt once the law catches you. No thanks. Big Egos usually equal big problems
Ive noticed when it comes to yammie noob and his kawasaki related videos he barely talks about the actual bike but instead gives us the history of kawasaki
I think one of the best part of the 650 is how available they are. I don't anything with one thinks their bike is special, but it's easy to find a used cheap one and you know what you're going to get with it.
Literally everything you just said can also be said about every other 650 in existence - except the other ones are better lol. MT07s are everywhere, R7 sure is very new but availability will only go up with time, SV650 is the definition of "good, cheap, available everywhere". And you know exactly what you're getting into with all of these bikes. The green one is just less spicy than the other ones.
You know why I ride a Ninja 650? It's pretty quick in the city, and more than adequate and incredibly stable on the highways, all while being comfortable af. It also has no electronic intervention apart from ABS, so it feels natural.
I bought a 2022 ninja650 as my first bike brand new for a couple reasons; The power is perfect for me. Its quick but its manageable. It also looks amazing. It just looks like a sportsbike while being comfortable at the same time. I love it. Use it daily
72 owned motorcycles far , of all sizes and styles. The 21 Ninja is the best of all. I cannot fault this motorcycle. I think Kawasaki, has hit a homerun and nailed it with this bike. I hope they keep on making it for several more years. The competition is going all around it but is like an arrow missing the bullseye by an inch.
i have a Ninja 650, it is perfect for me. I can do long distances with it, I can go fast around tight corners, I can flick it around and its stable. Getting a higher windshield now, then its even better. And its reliable. Nothing flashy, but it gets the job done edit: I guess a big factor is also that i live in germany and the roads in the hilly areas fit perfectly for the power of the ninja. Almost dont want anything with more power
I bought my 07 650r over a decade ago and now has a touch over 50’000 mi and has never left me stranded.I’ve owned several bikes over the years but it’s the one I’ve held on too the longest mainly because it has works well in so many different situations from commuting, to long distance trips, even on gravel roads.Just a well put together bike for the money.
I don't know what you don't understand. It has enough power, it does 0-60 in 3.5... Those are Dodge Viper numbers. It is as fast as a bike as I'll ever need, it's comfortable, it has great low end power, it's fun to throw around curvy roads. I absolutely love my 650. I've had 2 now. I don't see a reason to need anything larger and I'm not old enough for a grandpa bike..
I had an in-line four. It was faster than I ever needed to go. The 650 is considerably less powerful than that bike was, yet it’s still faster than I ever need to go. Most of us aren’t going down to the track, Yamster.
I sat on the bike at a dealership and I am 5ft 10in tall with a 31in inseam. The bike was extremely light to sit on and the visual parts all looked high end. The seat was narrow and comfortable. I would be proud to ride a bike with the linage, reliability, and fun factor. We all can't be sport bike snobs !!!
I demo drove the R7 and the Ninja 650 and honestly prefer the 650 because it’s front breaks doesn’t feel way to strong and the biggest part is it’s not super uncomfortable for my legs. I’m 6ft and my legs are killing me and crunched up on the R7
@@Sultan-bm7eyI 100% agree with your statement. I chose my 23 650 over the R7 because of the comfort and I'm only 5' 6"😔 But I can keep up with my buddy's 19 fz-07 so I can't complain
Ninja 650 is a great bike for anyone. Speed (its as fast as any other in its class). Price (its cheaper because they make and sell much more than any other in its class NOT because its less popular). Maintenence (easy and cheap with probably the biggest dealer network). Cool factor (just cause someone says it is or not doesn’t mean so). Go with your gut - do u want a good looking sport bike that is also extremely comfortable and will be dependable like a camry then the NInj 650 is your answer!!!
The fun to drive one can't be measured by looking at the specs sheet. It's for those people that don't care about what other people say but just drive it to decide.
I only recently started my motorcycling journey on a Z125. But have now upgraded to a Ninja 650. I absolutely love this bike! It's a great step up from my 125 and plenty of power for what I really need. Maybe I will upgrade later to something bigger, who knows... But for now, I'm perfectly fine with it 🙂
May I ask why you specifically went with the Ninja 650 - is it because you started with Kawa and continuing with their model line is a comfort choice, or did you legit find something more appealing in the Ninja 650 than all the other 650 alternatives?
@@Real_MisterSir Well I was searching for some second hand bikes, I found my Ninja 650 and was sold immediately. It wasn't really a well thought choise, more like personal preference based on the looks 😅 But I definitely didn't regret it!
Ninja 650 was my first bike after I got my licence, I've tried a few other bikes, but nothing seems to be able to take me away from my ninja. Absolutely love it.
It is cheap, reliable and faster than 95% vehicles on the road. It is also a great touring machine with added luggage. Also, I have never seen or even heard of anyone being laughed at because they do not ride a fancy superbike. I ride an FJR 1300 and have friends who own anything from an R1 to a chinese knock off of a honda 250. It is not about a bike. It is about culture.
I got one as a first bike. It's easy to ride, the slipper clutch does wonders, it's got enough power for me to enjoy myself plenty, and the riding position makes it comfortable enough. Good at commuting, and I can push the power further out without a problem. I don't think it's underpowered, although I haven't ridden the alternatives, I just think it's a good point to be fun, not too fast, and accessible. Kinda like the GR86/BRZ if you're comparing it to cars
I started on a 2012 Ninja 650 with no ABS or rider aids. It taught me to actually respect the throttle unlike most beginner bikes that you can ride wide open in most situations. If you’re mature enough to not be super reckless, I think it’s a great beginner bike. It will get you ready for a bigger bike a lot faster than starting on a 250-400 then having to move up to a middleweight.
My Ninja 650 '21 is a fun, comfortable, reliable, effective, agile motorcycle with nice torque and a quick 0 to 60 acceleration at an affordable price, and is great on freeways, city streets, rural winding roads with a good 200 mile range from a full tank, and lower insurance too. Fast enough for me with 20+ years motorcycle riding experience over 70,000 miles.
Yeah, if you get more experienced you understand a packed HP engine isn't everything and completely unnecessary. I would even go for the Ninja 400 if it wasn't that small.
I kinda understand why people buy it. It's underwhelming for people who want power but it is probably one of the greatest mid class bikes ever. Faster than a Ninja 400, great consumption while delivering enough power to have fun, decently comfortable for what I've heard and read, great riding position and all that with the great looks of the fairings too. For people looking for a middleground bike it is great. Yeah sure it ain't got the torque of the MT07 or the features of a RS660 but for what it is and it's great price point I'd say it it's quite the competitive bike for the market. It's not a bike to be ridden hard, it's a bike to be used as a commuter transportation inside a city and in that regard it is great product from Kawasaki. I own a Z900 which is imo a monster of a bike for what it is supposed to be used for, consumptions are high af even riding reasonably too... And I've almost bought a 650 myself for what it is even though I love the Z900. Power and torque isn't everything. The Ninja 650 is a great all around bike and for the price it's a very decent product imo
@@vahvelpoiss It's a Kawasaki... For what I've read it is a great in that regard. Not really a high maintenance bike either. Like most japanese bikes you can ride it hard anyways, it won't break down for sure
@@fabiodragon13 The Ninja 650 is pretty reliable, but the Kawa name itself isn't a default reason to think so. Some former bikes with the same engine config (like the ER6N naked bike) were notoriously unreliable unless driven very conservatively, hence why many bike instructors never bought them despite being cheaper than the alternatives, cus they'd require much more maintenance than comparable Honda, Yamaha, and Suzuki bikes. The good thing about the Ninja 650 is that it's so widespread that parts are everywhere for cheap, any shop can work on it and plenty of 3rd party retailers have parts in stock so you rarely have to search long for decent deals in your local area. Imo that's the biggest benefit of the Kawa 650 class, they're everywhere and so are spare parts for maintenance.
@@aidenlothian9642 I live in a countryside and cities and towns arent that far from me, so the Ninja would have more than enough room to stretch its legs and then also just calmly tag along.
I personally think that the whole Ninja lineup is pretty good... And regardless of what the engine displacement is... Somewhere there is someone who owns one and who thinks his bike is the best... I for instance have a ZZR1100... And while many a rider will tell you that it is a bike with issues... I love the bike. It's all in the eyes of the beholder
I love my Ninja 2017 Ninja 650. Have driven many bikes and this is by far the best. Don't know why it gets so much hate. It has plenty of power for street riding. It's super zippy and I have to tame it constantly to not go too far over the speed limit. You won't be able to take advantage of a supersport bike on the streets anyway. Has way too much power. They are designed for the track!
main thing i like it for, its faster than 400s, more tamed than a x6r or 1kcc bikes, more fuel economy for long distance, comfortable to drive not too tucked, i live in united kingdom so it's comfort seating is great for stop and go traffic. its got amazing low end torque and give enough power to gtfo capabilities. i like the sound of the inline 4 engines of other bikes but if i'm driving for 2 hours etc for commuting i would like to be comfy, its not tall like the adventure bikes. aswell its cheap :)
The 650 is still a great value and has higher bars than anything else in the fully faired class which makes it decent sport tourer. Though it sure could use some grab handles Kawasaki so you can mount luggage! Or just put the 636 motor in there 😀
I bought a Z650RS a few months ago. Sometimes I ask myself, why did I buy this bike as a 4th bike? Maybe I'll sell it. Then I ride it and remember how easy it is to ride, how consistent the power delivery is (and how low it makes torque). Hell, I even ran from the cops on it a month ago. The bike is no slouch if you're a decent rider. Very nimble in turns as well. Responding to Yammie Noob...The riding position of the 650 is way more comfortable than the ZX6r. Not everybody wants to break their back&neck on every ride.
He did hit the nail on the head at the end. I am only looking at this bike to because I need to be 24 before I can get a driver's license for the R1 or GSXR 1000 in my country. However, with all the research I have done on this bike I do feel like this video doesn't do it justice, especially for the low price of $12.5k. There's a reason its a top-seller Edit: Converted the wrong currency
It can’t be that bad seeing as it formed the basis for quite a lot of winning bikes in the Super Twin races at the TT, it’s only really the Paton (a bespoke racing engine) that used to beat it.
i bought a 2020 ninja 650 a few months ago as a first bike. at first i was doubting if i wanted the 400 or 650, but i really felt it when you said that we actually just want to ride the zx6r but are not experienced enough hahaha
I got this bike for my wife because it's the only bike she was comfortable with riding, and a great upgrade from her 2007 250 ninja. Shes only 5'2" and 95lbs so its perfect for her
I'm a Ninja-stan for 2 reasons. 1. I grew up riding Kawasaki dirt bikes, so I know Kawasaki engines. 2. The poster above my bed when I was a kid was a Kawasaki Ninja. Sure, I won't have as much torque as the MT hoodrats, but I've got a love for the Ninja platform that goes back generations.
The Ninja 650 is a great bike. It the bike Is started riding on just over 3 years ago and kind of what got me into riding. I loved the style of it, the pricepoint and the performance. It was very beginner friendly but let me have a ton of fun once I got comfortable.
I've been riding my 2023 Ninja 650 since I bought it off a showroom floor in January. I think it's an amazing first bike and I'm completely in love with it
I just started riding a couple weeks ago and ride a 650. I took it out on the highway yesterday and didn't have any problems keeping up and floating pass traffic. It's a great starter bike and I highly recommend it. It's known for its reliability and handling which is important for a new rider. Kind of like a Honda Civic for a new driver. After a couple months I should be ready to upgrade to a 600.
I got the ninja 650 for a few reasons. 1) The dealership had one, stock in my area is far from surplus on motorcycles. 2) I've never ridden any type of motorcycle/dirt bike etc. It's a slow enough bike that I can learn at a safe pace, and "fast" enough so now that I'm more comfortable I can still open it up a bit. Granted, it's not an insane amount faster than a 400 compared to a 600 or 1000, but I digress. 3) I got the edition with ABS, and traction control is standard (I believe). Again, as a new rider, in the interest of safety, I thought these features would be useful while I get acquainted to riding. 4) I thought the TFT display was going to be really cool, they market it as something pretty impressive. Admittedly, it's a glorified screen. It doesn't seem overly groundbreaking to me. 5) I read a lot about "committed" riding postures like you would see on an R6 and other bikes of that nature. I have no intention of doing track days or anything at this point, especially because my area doesn't really have one, so the more upright position that was advertised as "commuter" seemed more user friendly to me--again in the interest of learning. Overall I enjoy the bike, I'm not going to keep it forever. I'll probably end up moving to an R7 when I'm ready to move on. But for now, the Ninja 650 has been a fun experience for me, and it feels controllable and consistent enough to ride every day. It's a beautiful gateway drug into the world of riding. I'm excited to see what the future holds for me. If I can't get my hands on an R7, I might stick with something modest and intro level like a Turbo Busa😎
Going from a ninja 650 to an R7 is pretty pointless. It's just a more aggressive riding position. It won't get you from A to B any faster. But obviously if that's what you want to do so be it.
@@aidenlothian9642 Yeah, I know it's barely faster but I like the look of them a lot better. Since they stopped making the R6 and they're difficult to get, and I doubt I'll be ready for a 1000, I was just gonna do a sideways maneuver to a bike that aesthetically I liked a bit better. But you're right, it's pretty similar overall.
Just for the record, my favourite ice cream flavour is Jaffa & I listen to the Master of Puppets album as a lullaby when I want to go to sleep. I've had an ER-6F since '06 here in Australia, before they started cosplaying as a Ninja in '09. Nearly 98,000 km later & the only non-consumable I've had to replace is a blown Stator. My riding style is best described as "Ride it like you stole it" and it's still on the factory clutch. Yes, it doesn't have the personality, character or drama of other bikes in the same league, but that just means that there's nothing in the way of you focusing on your riding skills. I have a few other bikes in my stable that are more "exciting & spicy" to ride, but the Kawasaki is usually the bike I take because it does so many things so well. It's equally at home as a weekday commuter, a long distance tourer & as a weapon for carving up the many mountain roads around Sydney. I can keep up with the best of them on it & have even had people compliment the exhaust note from the factory muffler.
09 Ninja 650 was my first street bike for 4 years and perfect for me to learn on. Super reliable (Put 30k miles mine with no issues) and plenty of power for a new rider to not get bored super fast. I now ride a 21 MT09 SP and am thankful that I started on the Ninja first!
I own a Z300 and I rode a Z650 recently. It does everything but offroading, and does it well. Reliable, comfortable, small and light for city riding, powerful enough to get you out of any bad situation in the highways, good brakes. I could say the same about my bike but at highway speeds it needs a bit more acceleration and brakes, and the 650 delivers that with about the same nimbleness and even fuel economy. It's a rational bike. If I ever need to change my bike and I'm on a budget I'll go for the 650. But if budget isn't a concern, I'll go for the Z900, love that 4 cylinder sound.
Not everybody wanted hardcore bike to use everyday. This is a relatively simple bike. Give you speed when you need it, without the heat of inline four or vtwin. And a bit of tracktor mindset. Just enough.
I’ve owned a ninja 250, and just sold me ninja zx10r to purchase a ninja 650. If you’re like me and just enjoy riding without a sore neck and back, get the 650 😊
i can never understand why they hate the ninja 650 so much. is it the power the motor makes? the platforms ability to corner? the cost? the weight? i mean if there was something other than "these are just better then the ninja 650" maybe it would be easier to understand for me. to me, it seems to be a great value motorcycle with great reliability and good power, or am i missing something?
It's cool to hate, like the way people hate 'beans on toast' all of a sudden in the States. It's nothing to do with the bike itself, it's the herd mentality. which is ironic because bikers have always shunned the herd mentality
I like how we're all shopping and have come to hear a dissenting opinion against this bike, and instead concluded this guy is out of touch and the bike is a great option.
My GF currently makes her European A2 Drivers Licence so i bought her an used ER-6f (Thats how the Ninja 650 was called in Europe until 2017). It also needs to be restricted to 48hp so the performance difference to an R7 or CBR650R is basicly none. And my gf is relativly short so the Ninja650 fits perfectly with its low seat hight.
When I was five-six years old in 1995-6 I went to the supermarket with my mom and on our way there (Walking) I saw a Ninja and I stopped walking and stared at it, the owner saw me and put me on it and let me rev the thing out, I was so convinced to get one when I would grow up, and that's why I want a Kawisaki to bring my child in me out.
I put 5k miles on my 2022 650 since last august. I absolutely adore this bike. When I go full 600 squid I may keep this thing because it’s so comfortable to ride! I definitely didn’t come to feel validated 🤣😂.
Way back in 2011 I bought a 650r as my first bike. It was perfectly adequate. Having a few 600's, a 250r, a 400, and now a z125. This was the bike that got me on two wheels so I will always have a special place for it in my heart.
I've been riding a 2006 650R since '08, mostly for commuting and leisure travel. Never had a need for a supersport bike, I prefer the upright riding position. Maintenance is easy, it's reliable and easy to operate, and it does everything I need it to. And 15 years ago I wasn't exactly cross-shopping or worrying about having the best bike... I found a classified ad with a price that I couldn't ignore, the bike fit, and the rest is history.
I think the Ninja 650 would be the perfect sport tourer. It looks great, it’s comfortable, decent amount of power, and is a great bike to tour on without going to a full on dad bike.
because in a world where squids want $8000 for a gsxr 600 with 40000 miles and one good pull away from shitting out a valve and the YZF R6 is too uncomfortable
I bought the Ninja 650 for my first bike, still currently own it. It is plenty powerful, looks absolutely stunning, it rides extremely comfortably, can travel long or short distances with ease, and it's just fun. It's cheap, reliable, etc.
its "sporty"-ish and it's fairly upright seating position...it's purpose designed for what it's designed for. Not a lot of options out there that are similar. If you want an aggressive position, get the R7, but you will probably be bummed out as you are going down the highways in a straight line.
I like the Ninja 650. The Ninja 650 is more suitable as a beginner bike than the "better alternatives" (besides the Suzuki SV650, which would be its closest rival in your comparison list due to same engine displacement). That's probably why the N650 still has enough sales to justify its continued existence.
How you do an entire video on this bike and not mention the riding position is crazy. The riding position is much more forgiving and comfortable than most other bikes in its class. Anyways love the videos!
too many people think crazy speed and power is everything, if you get the ultimate pocket rocket all you are aiming for is speeding tickets and death. the kawasaki ninja 650 is plenty fast enuf for public roads. by getting snappy bikes your just more encouraged to go faster all the time. which will lead to trouble in one way or another.
Ridden an fz6, an r6, cbr1000, zx6r, bmw k1300s, I feel as if thought the 650 falls right in the line of quick but not fast nimble but not agile. Its a great everyday commuter that does everything ok all around. I want to say its the only bike that i feel i can take up on the highway and in the city street and feel as if though i have enough power for both. The big inline 6s are great for track and highway commuting but leave more to be said in the city. With that being said i have yet to try an r7, trident 660, aprilla rs 660 to give this bike a fair comparison but as of now i have to say i love my little ninja 650 and i commute 100 miles a day on it and have had nothing but smiles and enjoyment.
ZX4RR $9699 + another $1000 for a tune and pipe if you wish to see this bikes potential (US spec hp around 56hp) Ninja 650 $8299 apx 68hp Ninja ZX6R $ $11,299 apx 127hp Why buy the Ninja 650? Good looks, reasonable riding position, price point, more power than a stock zx4rr, reliable. If your not interested in track days at a road course, the Ninja 650 may be a better street bike than the 4RR.
I will be buying a Ninja 650 for multiple reasons but I’ll provide the ones that are most important to me here 1) It will be my second bike so I want something with a low skill floor 2) it’s gonna be a commuter machine so it needs to be comfy 3) it’s got that sexy fully faired look but doesn’t have the power to run from the cops (this is how i would probably die) 4) It’s got good enough mpg that I could take it for longer road trips. Maybe just need to add a cruise control There you go.
I rode a CBR600RR for years but as I got older, I couldn't deal with the low clip-ons and high foot pegs anymore, so until they make more comfortable supersport 600's, I'll ride a 650....
ninja 650 was my first bike ever. I also didn't start riding till age 30 so it was a good first pick. comfortable, quick, easy to ride. just a bit more pep than a 400 and all under $8500. solid bike
@@Bilbus7 nah, upgraded to a ZX10. I’m one of the thousands of people papa yam claims has no business riding a liter bike and he’s right. At least I do track days ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
First of all... elevator music slaps!! 🤣 But I started on a 650, and all though most, if not all, of your points are valid... It's still fun AF... lol!!
I’m getting my license right now in the Uk and will most likely get a ninja 650. I’d probably choose a ninja 400 but they aren’t that common and most I find actually cost more than a 650. Sure it’s on the sleepy side of the middle weight class, but that’s exactly why I’m choosing it. I acknowledge I don’t have the experience for a 600, but have the maturity (and age) to want something a little more than a 300-400 that I can grow into a little, the ninja 650 is ideal for that from what I’ve heard.
Yeah the ninja 650 is going to be perfect. I've owned a few zx6r's in the past and current own a Z650. End of the day the 600 supersport only makes a difference in a straight line well above legal speeds. So unless you ride like a maniac everywhere the ninja 650 will easily perform to the same ability as a 600 would on the street. Infact if I had the choice I'd take a ninja 650 over a zx6r for road riding.
I've had like 8 cruisers in my life, lots of shadows, one harley, biggest bike was a honda vtx1800 damn thing weighed almost 800 pounds. well I sold my harley last week, today i took home a 2006 ninja 650 with 16k miles. was well taken care of. I think it's fuckin awesome. then again, this is coming from someone who's used to a 0-60 time of like 15 seconds 😂
Because some people want a bike that isn't a sport bike,is cheaper, makes more power where it's used on the street, rider triangle is more comfortable. Look at the CBR650, same thing.
Since the bike isn't so "special", then I would expect it to be low on the "theft list" and therefore less likely to go missing at least when compared to a 400RR or a 600.
Hahaha, I can't agree more. My 2023 Ninja 650, doesn't have a great sound and isn't fast by any means, but I got it as my first bike, and has definitely been very forgiving, while I learn to ride. I'd recommend it as a first bike if you're not an absolute squid.
I have WERA raced Ninja 650's since they came out in 2006. I'm still in love with mine. And I do occasionally win on it. It is a fully built superbike now.
Hi mate - get your point - but here in Europe the rules are different . Im in my 50's , fit and a 'confirmed' cyclist - 74 kg and 179 cm. I live in Switzerland and and limited to A2 regulations to 35kw - so it really makes no difference what I ride - my son is 15 years old and on a moped - next year he moves up to 125 and then at 17 can go A2 - were going through the 'steps' together so the plan is for me to pass my test - 2 years before being unlimited here post test, the Panigale v4 for me and the boy gets the 35kw Kawasaki . In short , when you're restricted and learning, its best to have something easy to ride, torquey at low revs and predictable before going nut out for something tres exotique!
Oh and I should say, I own loads of classic cars form 1940s onwards - when it comes to motorbikes I don't want to arse around with stuff that doesn't come with the best safety kit, especially as it will be handed over to Jr in a few years time
My first bike back in 2006 was the original ninja 650R. I sold it many years ago, but have great memories of it. So for me there’s a lot of nostalgia there.
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HEY CLAMMIE NOOB YOU NEED TO GET A 2020 OR NEWER ONE AND DO A FULL EXHAUST HI FLOW AIR FILTER AND FLASH THE COMPUTER THEN TELL ME HOW IT IS TILL THEN YOUR JUST BEING A SPEC SHEET WORRIER.
THEN GIVE IT AWAY AS A GIVE A WAY BIKE. THAT'S HOW YOU DO IT WITH CRED.
sad thing the entrant eligibility doesnt extend to canada. getting my license soon and having a bike to go with it would be perfect since its so hard to get past the initial price barrier
@@PerciusLiveDam I was just about to go enter. I want a 650 but gotta pay off my car first
I Like you but pls do Not critise US that we Love the Ninja 650 a Lot
It's relatively cheap. It's kinda fast. It doesn't break down. Good enough. It's also got Ninja in the name.
This sums it up perfectly. IMHO. 😊
It's green
Its not inline 4
@@andrestrdI like the inline 4.
@@someoneelse1i1i then go zx6r
This bike is legit the perfect starter motorcycle. IDK why your hating on it so hard. It’s not too much power that is unforgiving to a newbie but also enough power to not get tired of the bike after three months
Get a cbr650r pretty similar, but at highway speed you are not at 6000+ rpm (crankshaft gets stressed way less in the long run)
@@l2xv674 bro forgor abt the price tag
Does this guy work for Suzuki, Honda or Yamaha ?
@l2xv674 some people don't wanna be tank huggers. The 650 has the perfect seating position.
Get a cruiser to cruise
For someone who makes a lot of beginner rider videos you really don't understand beginner riders and how they choose their bikes...
Very well put, my sentiments exactly.
It's all about what looks the coolest.
number up. buy bigger number, number higher i buy. insect shape, remind of things cause pain, i buy. good name, color like old quake death water. good bike. can't wait higher number.
Agreed. He just games the algorithm.
I started on a Ninja 650 and I think it's one of the perfect bikes. It's enough power for 99% of people, it's not a too aggressive riding position, it gets decent gas mileage, looks good, and you won't get bored of it like a 250/300/400. It's good at everything
started with cbr 250 went to ninja 400. it's just about right. I could use another 50 horses but I have no complaints..except the seat
unless you are planning on bombing around at 200kph everywhere you go you will never be bored on a 250/300/400. I keep being surprised by how much power an R3 actually has.
I got bored and upgraded from a z659 to the street triple 765. It's night and day differences
I honestly don't see very much difference between the ninja 400 and the ninja 650. I currently own the 400 but would upgrade to a ZX6R to get a noticeable change rather than just a very minor one.
The 650 only has like 20 more hp than the 400 does. It's not really worth the pricetag considering it doesn't have anywhere near the performance or features of the zx6r.
And it's ergos make it more of an entry level sport touring motorcycle than a real sportbike.
Bought one almost a year ago as my first bike and I couldn't be happier. Done roadtrips on it and commute to work with it and it's never let me down. Couldn't get a bigger and more powerful bike due to A2 restrictions in germany but as a 20 yo with a new Ninja 650 I can't complain at all. Friends have ridden it aswell and they absolutely love it aswell. Can only recommend it to anyone entering the bike world or anyone who wants a reliable daily machine
How much power is it restricted by on A2?
@@samwayne9000 35kw / 46 hp is the limiter for A2. Basically all sub 500cc bikes stay within 35kw power for this exact reason (Honda CB500 line, Ninja 400, the old MT03 with 650 single engine, etc).
@@Real_MisterSirthe maximum power you can have is 35kw as you said but the other option is 0.2kw/kg power to weight ratio
I can relate to your opinion. I've bought one in 2021 with A2. Viele Grüße aus Dresden :D
Bro ride safe. Wear your gear. Intense.
Not everyone wants a low torque 4 cylinder screaming bike where you’re rowing the shifter far more often with a 4 cylinder. He keeps on claiming it’s nothing but a stepping stone bike but believe it or not, it sells well for a reason. This, life is a racetrack mentality is a fantasy. Public roads aren’t racetracks, and if you ride like they are, you won’t be riding for long.
Well put, track bikes shouldn't be allowed on the street In the first place.
@@papatorr3669let people decide for themselves what they want
@@achaean7615 emotionally and theoretically I agree with you. Too much to text. Riding since '75. I own two dozen motorcycles. I sold over 30 bikes last two years. Live near twisty mountain roads. In a parallel argument, I don't want limitations on my AR-15 or pistol as you don't want limits on your motorcycle. My 919 Hornet and my FZ1 may have been considered track bikes in the '80s. I had a V65 Sabre back then. But having riders without self-control and bikes without limits is bad for the rest of us. I hate to be on this side of the argument but I'm already not allowed to have a full auto AR-15 nor a Glock 18. I would love to see street legal 125cc to 250cc track bikes though. It really is difficult to justify 150 mph plus motorcycles on public roads. They are lethal to others, not just the biker.
@papatorr3669 yeah that argument is stupid I could go rent a dozer and plow thru a restaurant during lunch doesn't mean they should be illegal
@@JSAF0 You are right, the stupid came through loud and clear. There actually is one incident of a guy welding armor plate to a bulldozer and driving it through a town destroying buildings! So tell us, Which public roads do you take advantage of the full capacity and capabilities of your track bike?
Its a sports Tourer not a racebike. So if you want some wind protection and you don't want one of those ugly touring or adventure bikes this is a great choice imo.
Remember when you made a video of 0-60 times and the Ninja beat the two race bikes, but you still hated it?
Still sucks lol
@@yammienoobgot em
@@yammienoob I need your unbiased proefessional opinion. At heart I love sport bikes and would prefer a Zx6r but insurance is very high here over in the UK and I have 6/12 penalty points from speeding 😂 so it doesnt help. I was looking at the MT07 or Ninja 650 as my 1st bike. What would you go for?
Riding motorcycles is about the experience not data sets, sorry my guy. The Ninja 650 is the trapper keeper of motorcycles functional practical non offensive and most importantly inherently lame.
@@rival2028 try them both, why need someones opinion if you can ride them yourself, I am learning how to ride on a Mt07 it's quite fun and maybe insurance is cheaper on it because it's not a "race" bike. That's how Netherlands sees it reason I will get that over the ninja most likely because cheaper xD
I'm a brand new Rider and I picked up an 2023 Ninja 650. At 32 years old, I did a lot of research before choosing this bike and debated going for something lower powered like the Ninja 400 or Yam R3. Never been more happy with my choice. In this video Yammie brings up good points, there are similar bikes that do it better. But for the price point, reliability and forgiveness to noobs still learning, I think this is the best over all choice.
Ninja 650 is my first bike and love it
So glad to read this review. A shop by me has a brand new 650 on sale and the price is hard to pass. I have a smaller bike currently but ready to move up.
@myooyoke I’m debating between the ninja 400 or the ninja 650 I’m also a new rider and like the 400 but it’s so thin the 660 just looks better but I heard the 400 is better because weight to power ratio but I like both can’t decide honestly
Don't feel bad. Noobie Yams likes to 💩 on all Kawasaki 650 motorcycles. (The Versys and the Z-650, too).
Idk, but he seems to give low ratings to all Kawasaki motorcycles. He's a Yammie and he's a Turbo Lover.
@@andrewroberts6123hit the nail on the head. His moniker says it all. His favorite brand will never surpass Kawasaki. Videos like these show the envy. Also, clowns like these, and there are many, use speed and horsepower (Supersport) bikes as a measuring stick for manhood. Last I checked, there’s speed limits in the U.S. You pull that sh*t here and you’ll most likely go to jail, have your bike impounded, lose your license, spend exorbitant amounts of money in legal fees, get dropped by your insurance carrier(good luck getting insurance after that), and possibly wind up in a world of hurt once the law catches you. No thanks. Big Egos usually equal big problems
Ive noticed when it comes to yammie noob and his kawasaki related videos he barely talks about the actual bike but instead gives us the history of kawasaki
I think one of the best part of the 650 is how available they are. I don't anything with one thinks their bike is special, but it's easy to find a used cheap one and you know what you're going to get with it.
Did you have a stroke?
Literally everything you just said can also be said about every other 650 in existence - except the other ones are better lol. MT07s are everywhere, R7 sure is very new but availability will only go up with time, SV650 is the definition of "good, cheap, available everywhere". And you know exactly what you're getting into with all of these bikes. The green one is just less spicy than the other ones.
You know why I ride a Ninja 650? It's pretty quick in the city, and more than adequate and incredibly stable on the highways, all while being comfortable af. It also has no electronic intervention apart from ABS, so it feels natural.
It’s more touring/everyday than sport, not everyone needs or wants a sport bike.
I bought a 2022 ninja650 as my first bike brand new for a couple reasons; The power is perfect for me. Its quick but its manageable. It also looks amazing. It just looks like a sportsbike while being comfortable at the same time. I love it. Use it daily
72 owned motorcycles far , of all sizes and styles. The 21 Ninja is the best of all. I cannot fault this motorcycle. I think Kawasaki, has hit a homerun and nailed it with this bike. I hope they keep on making it for several more years. The competition is going all around it but is like an arrow missing the bullseye by an inch.
Comfortable for us older guys, isn’t an HD, quick and fast enough, and inexpensive. All wins for me!
i have a Ninja 650, it is perfect for me. I can do long distances with it, I can go fast around tight corners, I can flick it around and its stable. Getting a higher windshield now, then its even better. And its reliable. Nothing flashy, but it gets the job done
edit: I guess a big factor is also that i live in germany and the roads in the hilly areas fit perfectly for the power of the ninja. Almost dont want anything with more power
I bought my 07 650r over a decade ago and now has a touch over 50’000 mi and has never left me stranded.I’ve owned several bikes over the years but it’s the one I’ve held on too the longest mainly because it has works well in so many different situations from commuting, to long distance trips, even on gravel roads.Just a well put together bike for the money.
I don't know what you don't understand. It has enough power, it does 0-60 in 3.5... Those are Dodge Viper numbers. It is as fast as a bike as I'll ever need, it's comfortable, it has great low end power, it's fun to throw around curvy roads. I absolutely love my 650. I've had 2 now. I don't see a reason to need anything larger and I'm not old enough for a grandpa bike..
Say it with me kids! Yammie hates Kawasaki!
For like, no reason
Yammies is spoiled brat 😢
Yammie hates Kawasaki because with the N650, they hit it out of the park!
😂
yanks hate bikes that handle, they just go for straight line killers
I had an in-line four. It was faster than I ever needed to go. The 650 is considerably less powerful than that bike was, yet it’s still faster than I ever need to go. Most of us aren’t going down to the track, Yamster.
I sat on the bike at a dealership and I am 5ft 10in tall with a 31in inseam. The bike was extremely light to sit on and the visual parts all looked high end. The seat was narrow and comfortable. I would be proud to ride a bike with the linage, reliability, and fun factor. We all can't be sport bike snobs !!!
I demo drove the R7 and the Ninja 650 and honestly prefer the 650 because it’s front breaks doesn’t feel way to strong and the biggest part is it’s not super uncomfortable for my legs. I’m 6ft and my legs are killing me and crunched up on the R7
@@Sultan-bm7eyI 100% agree with your statement. I chose my 23 650 over the R7 because of the comfort and I'm only 5' 6"😔
But I can keep up with my buddy's 19 fz-07 so I can't complain
Ninja 650 is a great bike for anyone. Speed (its as fast as any other in its class). Price (its cheaper because they make and sell much more than any other in its class NOT because its less popular). Maintenence (easy and cheap with probably the biggest dealer network). Cool factor (just cause someone says it is or not doesn’t mean so). Go with your gut - do u want a good looking sport bike that is also extremely comfortable and will be dependable like a camry then the NInj 650 is your answer!!!
The fun to drive one can't be measured by looking at the specs sheet. It's for those people that don't care about what other people say but just drive it to decide.
Let's talk about 650.. then proceed to talk about everything else.. I guess it starts at 7:12 ...
I only recently started my motorcycling journey on a Z125. But have now upgraded to a Ninja 650.
I absolutely love this bike! It's a great step up from my 125 and plenty of power for what I really need. Maybe I will upgrade later to something bigger, who knows... But for now, I'm perfectly fine with it 🙂
I own a ninja650 as well-it's a great bike-gets you up to legal speed very quickly and the insurance is affordable too.
May I ask why you specifically went with the Ninja 650 - is it because you started with Kawa and continuing with their model line is a comfort choice, or did you legit find something more appealing in the Ninja 650 than all the other 650 alternatives?
@@Real_MisterSir
Ninja 650 has an upright riding position and great torque.
Makes it very easy to ride.
Dosen't do anything badly.
@@Real_MisterSir Well I was searching for some second hand bikes, I found my Ninja 650 and was sold immediately. It wasn't really a well thought choise, more like personal preference based on the looks 😅 But I definitely didn't regret it!
Ninja 650 was my first bike after I got my licence, I've tried a few other bikes, but nothing seems to be able to take me away from my ninja. Absolutely love it.
It is cheap, reliable and faster than 95% vehicles on the road. It is also a great touring machine with added luggage. Also, I have never seen or even heard of anyone being laughed at because they do not ride a fancy superbike. I ride an FJR 1300 and have friends who own anything from an R1 to a chinese knock off of a honda 250. It is not about a bike. It is about culture.
Last sentence sounds like something a harley brotherrr would say
I got one as a first bike. It's easy to ride, the slipper clutch does wonders, it's got enough power for me to enjoy myself plenty, and the riding position makes it comfortable enough. Good at commuting, and I can push the power further out without a problem. I don't think it's underpowered, although I haven't ridden the alternatives, I just think it's a good point to be fun, not too fast, and accessible. Kinda like the GR86/BRZ if you're comparing it to cars
I started on a 2012 Ninja 650 with no ABS or rider aids. It taught me to actually respect the throttle unlike most beginner bikes that you can ride wide open in most situations. If you’re mature enough to not be super reckless, I think it’s a great beginner bike. It will get you ready for a bigger bike a lot faster than starting on a 250-400 then having to move up to a middleweight.
This isn't a powerful bike. You're treating it like a Hayabusa chill.
@@Yoursistersazzno they aren’t read it again
You CAN ride the 650 wide open....
I hate speeding and like smooth ride is 650 better option than the 400?
My Ninja 650 '21 is a fun, comfortable, reliable, effective, agile motorcycle with nice torque and a quick 0 to 60 acceleration at an affordable price, and is great on freeways, city streets, rural winding roads with a good 200 mile range from a full tank, and lower insurance too. Fast enough for me with 20+ years motorcycle riding experience over 70,000 miles.
Yeah, if you get more experienced you understand a packed HP engine isn't everything and completely unnecessary. I would even go for the Ninja 400 if it wasn't that small.
I kinda understand why people buy it. It's underwhelming for people who want power but it is probably one of the greatest mid class bikes ever. Faster than a Ninja 400, great consumption while delivering enough power to have fun, decently comfortable for what I've heard and read, great riding position and all that with the great looks of the fairings too. For people looking for a middleground bike it is great. Yeah sure it ain't got the torque of the MT07 or the features of a RS660 but for what it is and it's great price point I'd say it it's quite the competitive bike for the market. It's not a bike to be ridden hard, it's a bike to be used as a commuter transportation inside a city and in that regard it is great product from Kawasaki. I own a Z900 which is imo a monster of a bike for what it is supposed to be used for, consumptions are high af even riding reasonably too... And I've almost bought a 650 myself for what it is even though I love the Z900. Power and torque isn't everything. The Ninja 650 is a great all around bike and for the price it's a very decent product imo
how’s the reliability? mostly commute but some cheeky moments here and there should not break it, no?
@@vahvelpoiss It's a Kawasaki... For what I've read it is a great in that regard. Not really a high maintenance bike either. Like most japanese bikes you can ride it hard anyways, it won't break down for sure
@@fabiodragon13 The Ninja 650 is pretty reliable, but the Kawa name itself isn't a default reason to think so. Some former bikes with the same engine config (like the ER6N naked bike) were notoriously unreliable unless driven very conservatively, hence why many bike instructors never bought them despite being cheaper than the alternatives, cus they'd require much more maintenance than comparable Honda, Yamaha, and Suzuki bikes. The good thing about the Ninja 650 is that it's so widespread that parts are everywhere for cheap, any shop can work on it and plenty of 3rd party retailers have parts in stock so you rarely have to search long for decent deals in your local area. Imo that's the biggest benefit of the Kawa 650 class, they're everywhere and so are spare parts for maintenance.
A ninja 650 isn't just a commuter bike to be used in a city. That's a ridiculous statement.
@@aidenlothian9642 I live in a countryside and cities and towns arent that far from me, so the Ninja would have more than enough room to stretch its legs and then also just calmly tag along.
I personally think that the whole Ninja lineup is pretty good... And regardless of what the engine displacement is... Somewhere there is someone who owns one and who thinks his bike is the best... I for instance have a ZZR1100... And while many a rider will tell you that it is a bike with issues... I love the bike. It's all in the eyes of the beholder
I love my Ninja 2017 Ninja 650. Have driven many bikes and this is by far the best. Don't know why it gets so much hate. It has plenty of power for street riding. It's super zippy and I have to tame it constantly to not go too far over the speed limit. You won't be able to take advantage of a supersport bike on the streets anyway. Has way too much power. They are designed for the track!
main thing i like it for, its faster than 400s, more tamed than a x6r or 1kcc bikes, more fuel economy for long distance, comfortable to drive not too tucked, i live in united kingdom so it's comfort seating is great for stop and go traffic. its got amazing low end torque and give enough power to gtfo capabilities. i like the sound of the inline 4 engines of other bikes but if i'm driving for 2 hours etc for commuting i would like to be comfy, its not tall like the adventure bikes. aswell its cheap :)
The 650 is still a great value and has higher bars than anything else in the fully faired class which makes it decent sport tourer. Though it sure could use some grab handles Kawasaki so you can mount luggage! Or just put the 636 motor in there 😀
then that’d make it a zx6…
@@davidmartinez8319 That's make it a much more comfortable ZX6 ;)
I bought a Z650RS a few months ago. Sometimes I ask myself, why did I buy this bike as a 4th bike? Maybe I'll sell it. Then I ride it and remember how easy it is to ride, how consistent the power delivery is (and how low it makes torque). Hell, I even ran from the cops on it a month ago. The bike is no slouch if you're a decent rider. Very nimble in turns as well. Responding to Yammie Noob...The riding position of the 650 is way more comfortable than the ZX6r. Not everybody wants to break their back&neck on every ride.
Yammie can't help but bring up the Ninja 650/Z650 every couple years.
Just got a 2013 ninja 650 as my first bike, and tbh its served me great so far. Definitely looks cooler than I am.
He did hit the nail on the head at the end. I am only looking at this bike to because I need to be 24 before I can get a driver's license for the R1 or GSXR 1000 in my country.
However, with all the research I have done on this bike I do feel like this video doesn't do it justice, especially for the low price of $12.5k. There's a reason its a top-seller
Edit: Converted the wrong currency
I love my 650 but I had a good laugh watching this 😂 I'm going to go eat my vanilla ice cream and listen to elevator music now
I have had many ninjas and I just got the 2023 650. I got it because it is reliable, sporty, and at the best price point for what you get.
The 650 has an upright position. Which makes switching from cruisers to sports bikes easier.
I actually miss my ninja 650. Having a fairing on a street oriented bike is actually very nice.
Yes!
It can’t be that bad seeing as it formed the basis for quite a lot of winning bikes in the Super Twin races at the TT, it’s only really the Paton (a bespoke racing engine) that used to beat it.
Vanilla is my favorite ice cream as a matter of fact and yes i do own a 650
i bought a 2020 ninja 650 a few months ago as a first bike. at first i was doubting if i wanted the 400 or 650, but i really felt it when you said that we actually just want to ride the zx6r but are not experienced enough hahaha
You made the right decision in my opinion. Coming from a rider of 49 years with over two dozen bikes
I got this bike for my wife because it's the only bike she was comfortable with riding, and a great upgrade from her 2007 250 ninja. Shes only 5'2" and 95lbs so its perfect for her
I'm a Ninja-stan for 2 reasons. 1. I grew up riding Kawasaki dirt bikes, so I know Kawasaki engines. 2. The poster above my bed when I was a kid was a Kawasaki Ninja. Sure, I won't have as much torque as the MT hoodrats, but I've got a love for the Ninja platform that goes back generations.
The Ninja 650 is a great bike. It the bike Is started riding on just over 3 years ago and kind of what got me into riding. I loved the style of it, the pricepoint and the performance. It was very beginner friendly but let me have a ton of fun once I got comfortable.
I've been riding my 2023 Ninja 650 since I bought it off a showroom floor in January. I think it's an amazing first bike and I'm completely in love with it
I just started riding a couple weeks ago and ride a 650. I took it out on the highway yesterday and didn't have any problems keeping up and floating pass traffic. It's a great starter bike and I highly recommend it. It's known for its reliability and handling which is important for a new rider. Kind of like a Honda Civic for a new driver. After a couple months I should be ready to upgrade to a 600.
I think it's funny we in the west compare the bike to a civic, for most of the world's population a ninja 650 is basically a superbike
@@chrispekel5709No.....
I got the ninja 650 for a few reasons. 1) The dealership had one, stock in my area is far from surplus on motorcycles. 2) I've never ridden any type of motorcycle/dirt bike etc. It's a slow enough bike that I can learn at a safe pace, and "fast" enough so now that I'm more comfortable I can still open it up a bit. Granted, it's not an insane amount faster than a 400 compared to a 600 or 1000, but I digress. 3) I got the edition with ABS, and traction control is standard (I believe). Again, as a new rider, in the interest of safety, I thought these features would be useful while I get acquainted to riding. 4) I thought the TFT display was going to be really cool, they market it as something pretty impressive. Admittedly, it's a glorified screen. It doesn't seem overly groundbreaking to me. 5) I read a lot about "committed" riding postures like you would see on an R6 and other bikes of that nature. I have no intention of doing track days or anything at this point, especially because my area doesn't really have one, so the more upright position that was advertised as "commuter" seemed more user friendly to me--again in the interest of learning.
Overall I enjoy the bike, I'm not going to keep it forever. I'll probably end up moving to an R7 when I'm ready to move on. But for now, the Ninja 650 has been a fun experience for me, and it feels controllable and consistent enough to ride every day. It's a beautiful gateway drug into the world of riding. I'm excited to see what the future holds for me. If I can't get my hands on an R7, I might stick with something modest and intro level like a Turbo Busa😎
Going from a ninja 650 to an R7 is pretty pointless. It's just a more aggressive riding position. It won't get you from A to B any faster. But obviously if that's what you want to do so be it.
@@aidenlothian9642 Yeah, I know it's barely faster but I like the look of them a lot better. Since they stopped making the R6 and they're difficult to get, and I doubt I'll be ready for a 1000, I was just gonna do a sideways maneuver to a bike that aesthetically I liked a bit better. But you're right, it's pretty similar overall.
You can always get a 1000cc bike but then use low power mode.
Just for the record, my favourite ice cream flavour is Jaffa & I listen to the Master of Puppets album as a lullaby when I want to go to sleep. I've had an ER-6F since '06 here in Australia, before they started cosplaying as a Ninja in '09. Nearly 98,000 km later & the only non-consumable I've had to replace is a blown Stator. My riding style is best described as "Ride it like you stole it" and it's still on the factory clutch. Yes, it doesn't have the personality, character or drama of other bikes in the same league, but that just means that there's nothing in the way of you focusing on your riding skills. I have a few other bikes in my stable that are more "exciting & spicy" to ride, but the Kawasaki is usually the bike I take because it does so many things so well. It's equally at home as a weekday commuter, a long distance tourer & as a weapon for carving up the many mountain roads around Sydney. I can keep up with the best of them on it & have even had people compliment the exhaust note from the factory muffler.
Actually a great bike not sure of why the hate, looks great high bars not everyone needs 200 hp.
09 Ninja 650 was my first street bike for 4 years and perfect for me to learn on. Super reliable (Put 30k miles mine with no issues) and plenty of power for a new rider to not get bored super fast. I now ride a 21 MT09 SP and am thankful that I started on the Ninja first!
I own a Z300 and I rode a Z650 recently. It does everything but offroading, and does it well. Reliable, comfortable, small and light for city riding, powerful enough to get you out of any bad situation in the highways, good brakes.
I could say the same about my bike but at highway speeds it needs a bit more acceleration and brakes, and the 650 delivers that with about the same nimbleness and even fuel economy. It's a rational bike. If I ever need to change my bike and I'm on a budget I'll go for the 650. But if budget isn't a concern, I'll go for the Z900, love that 4 cylinder sound.
The ninja 650 is awesome. My only complaint is the boring sound. If they made a new model with a 270 crank, i would buy it in a heartbeat.
Yup, 270 would make it 🔥
Not everybody wanted hardcore bike to use everyday.
This is a relatively simple bike. Give you speed when you need it, without the heat of inline four or vtwin. And a bit of tracktor mindset. Just enough.
I’ve owned a ninja 250, and just sold me ninja zx10r to purchase a ninja 650. If you’re like me and just enjoy riding without a sore neck and back, get the 650 😊
i can never understand why they hate the ninja 650 so much. is it the power the motor makes? the platforms ability to corner? the cost? the weight? i mean if there was something other than "these are just better then the ninja 650" maybe it would be easier to understand for me. to me, it seems to be a great value motorcycle with great reliability and good power, or am i missing something?
It's cool to hate, like the way people hate 'beans on toast' all of a sudden in the States. It's nothing to do with the bike itself, it's the herd mentality. which is ironic because bikers have always shunned the herd mentality
It's only because of the 180 degree crankshaft
Because they are morons.
It's because too many people are buying Ninja 650 so Moto Journalists think they're doing their duty to open our eyes to niche alternatives.
They are SLOOOW
Well, since most of us are also pretending to be cooler than we really are...
I like how we're all shopping and have come to hear a dissenting opinion against this bike, and instead concluded this guy is out of touch and the bike is a great option.
My GF currently makes her European A2 Drivers Licence so i bought her an used ER-6f (Thats how the Ninja 650 was called in Europe until 2017).
It also needs to be restricted to 48hp so the performance difference to an R7 or CBR650R is basicly none.
And my gf is relativly short so the Ninja650 fits perfectly with its low seat hight.
When I was five-six years old in 1995-6 I went to the supermarket with my mom and on our way there (Walking) I saw a Ninja and I stopped walking and stared at it, the owner saw me and put me on it and let me rev the thing out, I was so convinced to get one when I would grow up, and that's why I want a Kawisaki to bring my child in me out.
I put 5k miles on my 2022 650 since last august.
I absolutely adore this bike. When I go full 600 squid I may keep this thing because it’s so comfortable to ride!
I definitely didn’t come to feel validated 🤣😂.
I was with you until you attacked vanilla ice-cream... we can no longer be friends.
Way back in 2011 I bought a 650r as my first bike. It was perfectly adequate. Having a few 600's, a 250r, a 400, and now a z125. This was the bike that got me on two wheels so I will always have a special place for it in my heart.
Street Sleeper 650. Swap the Handlebars and tires then rip it. It's a fun small bike.
I've been riding a 2006 650R since '08, mostly for commuting and leisure travel. Never had a need for a supersport bike, I prefer the upright riding position. Maintenance is easy, it's reliable and easy to operate, and it does everything I need it to. And 15 years ago I wasn't exactly cross-shopping or worrying about having the best bike... I found a classified ad with a price that I couldn't ignore, the bike fit, and the rest is history.
I think the Ninja 650 would be the perfect sport tourer. It looks great, it’s comfortable, decent amount of power, and is a great bike to tour on without going to a full on dad bike.
I've seen it. Seat pad, clip on windshield extender, and you're eating miles.
Man the Ninja 900 is so sick looking
because in a world where squids want $8000 for a gsxr 600 with 40000 miles and one good pull away from shitting out a valve and the YZF R6 is too uncomfortable
Put some luggage, a better seat, and you get a cheap reliable sport tourer
I bought the Ninja 650 for my first bike, still currently own it. It is plenty powerful, looks absolutely stunning, it rides extremely comfortably, can travel long or short distances with ease, and it's just fun. It's cheap, reliable, etc.
how u like it so far? riding 3months with z300 and looking for a ninja 650 right now. u feel like u want more now?
its "sporty"-ish and it's fairly upright seating position...it's purpose designed for what it's designed for. Not a lot of options out there that are similar. If you want an aggressive position, get the R7, but you will probably be bummed out as you are going down the highways in a straight line.
I like the Ninja 650. The Ninja 650 is more suitable as a beginner bike than the "better alternatives" (besides the Suzuki SV650, which would be its closest rival in your comparison list due to same engine displacement). That's probably why the N650 still has enough sales to justify its continued existence.
How you do an entire video on this bike and not mention the riding position is crazy. The riding position is much more forgiving and comfortable than most other bikes in its class. Anyways love the videos!
too many people think crazy speed and power is everything, if you get the ultimate pocket rocket all you are aiming for is speeding tickets and death. the kawasaki ninja 650 is plenty fast enuf for public roads. by getting snappy bikes your just more encouraged to go faster all the time. which will lead to trouble in one way or another.
Ridden an fz6, an r6, cbr1000, zx6r, bmw k1300s, I feel as if thought the 650 falls right in the line of quick but not fast nimble but not agile. Its a great everyday commuter that does everything ok all around. I want to say its the only bike that i feel i can take up on the highway and in the city street and feel as if though i have enough power for both. The big inline 6s are great for track and highway commuting but leave more to be said in the city. With that being said i have yet to try an r7, trident 660, aprilla rs 660 to give this bike a fair comparison but as of now i have to say i love my little ninja 650 and i commute 100 miles a day on it and have had nothing but smiles and enjoyment.
To add to this its also the bike I can wromp on and go 100mph and still achieve 45 plus mpg
ZX4RR $9699 + another $1000 for a tune and pipe if you wish to see this bikes potential (US spec hp around 56hp)
Ninja 650 $8299 apx 68hp
Ninja ZX6R $ $11,299 apx 127hp
Why buy the Ninja 650? Good looks, reasonable riding position, price point, more power than a stock zx4rr, reliable.
If your not interested in track days at a road course, the Ninja 650 may be a better street bike than the 4RR.
Ninja 650 is far more comfortable than the R7
I will be buying a Ninja 650 for multiple reasons but I’ll provide the ones that are most important to me here
1) It will be my second bike so I want something with a low skill floor
2) it’s gonna be a commuter machine so it needs to be comfy
3) it’s got that sexy fully faired look but doesn’t have the power to run from the cops (this is how i would probably die)
4) It’s got good enough mpg that I could take it for longer road trips. Maybe just need to add a cruise control
There you go.
I rode a CBR600RR for years but as I got older, I couldn't deal with the low clip-ons and high foot pegs anymore, so until they make more comfortable supersport 600's, I'll ride a 650....
Exactly why I bought a 2019 650....great comfort for me...
I was guided towards the 650 because of its height. I'm 6'1 and this one seems a little taller than the average bike, but also not a giant thing
Actually it is the other way around. It is a smaller bike than others. Very low seat height.
i just bought the KRT as my first bike a week ago and I'm having an amazing time on it
ninja 650 was my first bike ever. I also didn't start riding till age 30 so it was a good first pick. comfortable, quick, easy to ride. just a bit more pep than a 400 and all under $8500. solid bike
You still riding it?
@@Bilbus7 nah, upgraded to a ZX10. I’m one of the thousands of people papa yam claims has no business riding a liter bike and he’s right. At least I do track days ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
First of all... elevator music slaps!! 🤣 But I started on a 650, and all though most, if not all, of your points are valid... It's still fun AF... lol!!
I’m getting my license right now in the Uk and will most likely get a ninja 650. I’d probably choose a ninja 400 but they aren’t that common and most I find actually cost more than a 650. Sure it’s on the sleepy side of the middle weight class, but that’s exactly why I’m choosing it. I acknowledge I don’t have the experience for a 600, but have the maturity (and age) to want something a little more than a 300-400 that I can grow into a little, the ninja 650 is ideal for that from what I’ve heard.
Yeah the ninja 650 is going to be perfect. I've owned a few zx6r's in the past and current own a Z650. End of the day the 600 supersport only makes a difference in a straight line well above legal speeds. So unless you ride like a maniac everywhere the ninja 650 will easily perform to the same ability as a 600 would on the street. Infact if I had the choice I'd take a ninja 650 over a zx6r for road riding.
I've had like 8 cruisers in my life, lots of shadows, one harley,
biggest bike was a honda vtx1800
damn thing weighed almost 800 pounds.
well I sold my harley last week, today i took home a 2006 ninja 650 with 16k miles.
was well taken care of.
I think it's fuckin awesome.
then again, this is coming from someone who's used to a 0-60 time of like 15 seconds 😂
It's a great bike for people who are mentally sane and don't need to speed all the time.
I am one of ninja650 rider from sarawak Malaysia.. for me this ninja make my day everyday.. love it so much bro..
Because some people want a bike that isn't a sport bike,is cheaper, makes more power where it's used on the street, rider triangle is more comfortable. Look at the CBR650, same thing.
Since the bike isn't so "special", then I would expect it to be low on the "theft list" and therefore less likely to go missing at least when compared to a 400RR or a 600.
Ninja 650 beat the Aprillia rs660 in the 0-60 in the comparison on Yam’s channel, yet somehow the Aprilia is “amazing” while the Nimja is “Sleepy.”
TH-camrs are cringe and their content are rarely consistent.
Hahaha, I can't agree more. My 2023 Ninja 650, doesn't have a great sound and isn't fast by any means, but I got it as my first bike, and has definitely been very forgiving, while I learn to ride. I'd recommend it as a first bike if you're not an absolute squid.
Not fast compared to what? Most bikes in the world are 125cc and average worldwide car engine size is 2 litres
i also have a 650r, and LOVE vanilla ice cream and elevator music!
and a 500r in the stable. Ive never seen a video that features these, thanks yammie
I have WERA raced Ninja 650's since they came out in 2006. I'm still in love with mine. And I do occasionally win on it. It is a fully built superbike now.
It's because the ninja 650 is the "king of fairly" fairly cheap, fairly comfortable, fairly good looking, fairly reliable, you catch my drift...
Hi mate - get your point - but here in Europe the rules are different . Im in my 50's , fit and a 'confirmed' cyclist - 74 kg and 179 cm. I live in Switzerland and and limited to A2 regulations to 35kw - so it really makes no difference what I ride - my son is 15 years old and on a moped - next year he moves up to 125 and then at 17 can go A2 - were going through the 'steps' together so the plan is for me to pass my test - 2 years before being unlimited here post test, the Panigale v4 for me and the boy gets the 35kw Kawasaki . In short , when you're restricted and learning, its best to have something easy to ride, torquey at low revs and predictable before going nut out for something tres exotique!
Oh and I should say, I own loads of classic cars form 1940s onwards - when it comes to motorbikes I don't want to arse around with stuff that doesn't come with the best safety kit, especially as it will be handed over to Jr in a few years time
Europeans are so weird.
My first bike back in 2006 was the original ninja 650R. I sold it many years ago, but have great memories of it. So for me there’s a lot of nostalgia there.