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- Chris Broussard joined Skip Bayless and Shannon Sharpe to discuss how the 1996 Chicago Bulls stack up against the 2017 Golden State Warriors.
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96 Chicago Bulls vs. '17 Golden State Warriors: Which team is better? | UNDISPUTED
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Best team in NBA history?
UNDISPUTED ON FS1, yeah.
UNDISPUTED ON FS1 Nah, the '86 Celtics or Kareem/Oscar Bucks
UNDISPUTED ON FS1 Detroit bad boys back to back championship team would rough the warriors up
86 Celtics...no question!!!!
Ethan_Gamer 28 Questioned
Uh... they say that the 96 bulls couldn’t guard Klay and Curry without hamdchecking. Uh... what about Curry and Klay trying to guard MJ and Pippen without being able to touch them? LMAO
Dray would be on Jordan, KD on Pippen, Curry on Harper and Klay on Kukoc
Jordan would go to the line 25-30 times a day with today’s rules.
MrEkin03 stop lying for Jordan and trying to make him look good
Red Demon I’m not lying or trying to make MJ look good. Just like the other people made assumptions such as GSW doubling Jordan and let Pippen loose for a win I’m stating my opinion without disrespecting others by calling them liars. And yes I still think that he would go to the line many many times. The bad boy pistons doubled or tripled MJ constantly and that never stopped him attacking the rim and they were much better defensively than the GSW which I think you would agree to. And with today’s no touch rules a guy like MJ attacking the rim like that and getting fouled many times only makes sense.
MrEkin03 the pistons were dirtier than the warriors first off,doesn’t mean they’re better pure defensively. Secondly,u absurd for even thinking he’d go to the line 25-30 times,u ok bro????
96 bulls vs 2017 warriors now that's a final I would love to see go down
but wich rules?
Svarog187 mid 2000 rules
who would coach GSW since their coach played on that bulls team
Time Killer I guess Mike Brown
Steve Kerr would still coach the Warriors he's just gonna meet his younger self back in 1996! :D
Bulls would win in 4, Steve Kerr knows all the Gsw plays
Richy Rich006 he's also the coach of the Warriors LOL so you would have to choose where you'd want him
Richy Rich006 That's stupid, he knows all the Bulls plays.
Richy Rich006 😂😂😂
wouldn't it be the other way around? current steve kerr knows the bulls plays but past steve kerr doesn't know the warriors plays.
Richy Rich006 Steve Kerr knows the Bulls plays and is the coach lol
Warriors wouldn't even have a coach.
LOL
Hahaha fax
Mark Jackson
Based on this season they never did anyways. Talent sure helps lol
Lol not to discredit Kerr but they probably just needed an ego manager.
Chris Broussard needs his own show fam. Spewing facts 24x7!!
Vipin George yk
MJ Pippen and Rodman defence was something else. Younger people can't understand.
Factz
Against a bunch of un athletic white boys
Manuel Gasse Thank you
@Hizuro Nation .... You have no clue. Learn something about the game in its totality before you go running off on a tangent. You sound juvenile!
@@dadillonful ... Again, you kids have no clue. Athleticism has nothing to do with being a good ball player. Bird was more unathletic than anyone but he is top ten all-time. The game is 90% mental, 10% physical. There is a reason why jumping chin high with the rim doesn't equate to rebound titles. There is a reason why running fast doesn't equate to being a good defender. You kids have a lot to learn and it shows!
Michael Jordan was at his best when he found a personal challenge in a game. He would've took Stephen Curry as a personal challenge. I can't say that Curry would've got smoked, but Jordan would have made Curry work for his life.
Nathan Johnson not one of the GSW could guard MJ no matter what rules they played with.
Yeah like somehow MJ who never had to guard someone way beyond the 3 point line suddenly gains the ability to guard the most lethal shooter in basketball history.
@@michaeldesanta7746 reggie Miller
@@hughhefner5348 "Way beyond the arc" and his 3 point field goal made per game for his career is 1.8. Can you compare?
@Lisa Rose So if these guys think this Bulls team can win against a healthy GSW. That means the Bulls is a superteam? MJ only achieved so much because he was playing for an invincible team?
Draymond is a 25 cent snack for Rodman he'll buy Draymond twice on sundays.
Draymond. The guy with regular triple singles. Wouldn't even start in the 90s.
@Versatile Wolf don't get me wrong dog wolf, Draymond will always be a part of my justified dream team.
🤣🤣🤣
@@jeremytucker8853 Draymond would be bullied in the 90s.
Rodman would make Draymond foul out every game be crying by game 2!
Skip : the bulls were loaded
Also skip : *MJ never had as much help as Lebron did he had to carry the bulls*
Scottie Pippin and Dennis Rodman are both Hall of Famers in case you forgot.
Meshal Al-Harbi i know they are, Skip just contradicts himself so many times😂
Oh! I got you now.
ccjosh13 defensively speaking. Rodman gave you nothing offensively. Pippen would've been eaten up by Durant
Jordan never had wade
Rodman would have Dreymond for dinner!
And the rest of the GSW will have the Bulls for dinner
charles allen it’s draymond and NO
charles allen Rodman will make Draymond as his girlfriend 😯
Ummmmm, I watched literally every regular season and playoff game of that PARTICULAR Bulls team. I happened to have just moved to Schaumburg, Illinois, the exact year of the start of the 2nd 3-peat. I can attest that the Warriors would eat that team up. They were not perfect, by any stretch of the imagination. This Warriors team would have given them a LOT of trouble.
The obvious way to explain this to people is that the Utah Jazz ALMOST had the Bulls in an impossible situation, in the Finals. And GSW are 3 times better than that truly great Jazz team. So what if Rodman beats Draymond. He doesn't shut Draymond down totally, and Draymond isn't the main scorer. That matchup is a total wash. Rodman couldn't score, and they both battle each other to the death.
Thank you for factoring in Toni Kukoc. He deserves some loooove. Bulls on 6.
I love me some tony mane but we’ll never know🤷🏻♂️
Yes like Chris said bulls could go small with Rodman at 4 or 5 or kukoc at 4 or 5 whatever match-up or they could bring in Longley and get the warriors in foul trouble in the post.
The Bulls win in either era. If there is hand-checking, the Bulls win easy. If there is no hand-checking, MJ drops 60 a night!
jersey4life31 stop it man he ain’t dropping 60. KD and Steph would have a field day with them in todays era
Against a 2017 Warriors team that averaged more steals and blocks than the 96 Bulls, yeah right...
Bob You don’t think he could drop 60 at all or do you mean he couldn’t average it for the series?
@@VeliThaDon He wouldn't on the Warriors in a playoff series.
Dylan Cresswell Well first of all the Warriors did average more blocks but not more steals. Secondly, there’s a lot more to defense than just steals and blocks. It’s possible for a player to be shut down and not allowed to score without the defender recording a single block or steal. Yes, it’s nice to see numbers on the stat sheet but stats don’t tell the whole story. For example, Kevin Durant averages more steals and blocks for his career than Dennis Rodman. KD is a far superior player overall, but defensively he doesn’t even come close to Rodman. Rodman is universally known as a top 10 defensive player of all time and KD has never even made an all defensive team. Lastly, Jordan was able to drop 63 on the 86 Celtics, in an era that they could actually touch him. In this era when you can’t touch him, he’d be damn near impossible to stop. Jordan was go great at scoring that he often told his defenders what he was going to do before he did it and he was still able to score on them. He did that the night he scored his career high 69 points. If Lebron could drop 51 on the 2018 Warriors without a consistent jump shot, and without any real help on his team...Jordan could drop 60.
Rodman would give draymond THE BUSINESS!!!! Period
Bigg Facts!!
Seville Jackson The........BUSINESS! Dude would be suffocated.
Big time
I'd choose whatever team steve kerr is on because he knows all of the warriors plays and all of the bulls plays lol
Jake Ryan Young Kerr doesn't know GSW's plays. Old Kerr knows both team's plays.
Infinite Zest yea true but would that still stop Jordan knowing the plays I don't think so lol
Infinite Zest naw what is you talking about when did I say anything was complicated ??
SuperTDSmith actually that is the opposite of his logic. He said that the warriors get who they are in ‘17 and the bulls get who they are one ‘96
You know the finals are weak if they're talking about 2 teams that will never play each other vs the ones in the finals SMFH
222222e they shouldn't count the cavs out just yet
True unless they lose tommorow
Dee Money #OUT!
222222e they will play on 2 k and that's close enough
Oliver Sutton well they lost.....
you guys forget 3 of their 96 lineup were part of the 95-96 NBA ALL DEFENSIVE TEAM in the name of JORDAN, PIPPEN AND RODMAN..
Exactly and not to mention Harper and kukoc was also great defensively and they could also score lol
Not to mention in 96 all three of them were in the first team all defense. Now that's something
'96 BULLS hands down!!! Never bet against MJ!!!👍🏼
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Facts Bulls for life.
It's funny how we're talking about this like it could actually happen
Luke Doggett right
it actually could happen. some scientists predict that by 2020 we will have time machines that'll be able to go back (or forward) in time up to thirty years. by that time, i.e., 2020, the dubs best players will be right around 30-32 yrs of age, i.e., still in their primes. the biggest obstacle to the match-up, however, might be the whether the Warriors will be able to convince ANYONE, let alone the Bulls / NBA, that they are in fact nba champions from the future. It'll be interesting.
Luke Doggett 2k19 lol
Uncle Tony I love you
Jordan averaged 37ppg shooting over 50% one season
That's with harder defense an hand checking
So imagine today's rules for Jordan an pip
Unstoppable
Clippers and pistons are the toughest most athletic NBA team to date and yet they cannot win and are considered a below average team while GSW wins with softies like Curry Klay and Durant.
37 on 48%*
@Hizuro Nation ... So you actually think leaving Pippen open, as well as other players, is a good thing? Apparently you know nothing about that Bulls team as Pippen played the same position as Lebron (point-forward). Jordan would get the ball whether you wanted him to or not and he was known for his ability to beat the double-team, freeing himself up for the easy basket or making the pass to an open teammate. Stop watching Kobe and thinking that is how MJ played. You have no clue!
@Hizuro Nation ... Again, you have no knowledge of the game back in those days. Teams such as Boston and LA played what was called a floating zone. Magic was not a good defender so they needed a way to hide that weakness. In 86, MJ dropped 63 on the Celtics actually played that way (look at their setup in the half court... typical 2-3 zone) and you see how well that worked against him(his team were no shows). The zone is very simple to beat but you all make it out to be more than what it really is. Plus, in those days, college players were taught to play zone and man-to-man defense (play against it as well).
My friend, you need to do more research to learn more about the game.
Hizuro Nation... The way to beat the zone is spreading the floor and passing over the top while players move because the zone follows the ball, not the player. Jordan, Pippen, Harper, and the like were excellent at moving without the ball. This leaves gaps in the defense for midrange jumpers and/or backdoor cuts for easy layups AND And1's for players like Jordan and Pippen.
I don't even have to discuss their defensive prowess, whether it is straight up, zone, playing the passing lanes, or help defense.
I'd go with the Bulls. The Warriors have a habit of getting cute with the ball and commit some careless turnovers. They also occasionally drift away from the gameplan. The Bulls left teams little margin for error. Also, Rodman was a major force in the paint.
For the handcheck rule, if you can't handcheck Jordan? He would average 55 a game.
However, the illegal defense rule was also removed, which massively hurts Jordan.
Dr. Logos lol no Jordans the greatest defensive guard ever. look at his awards you'll see some defensive player of the year awards in their (In an era of amazing big men. how ridiculous is that?)
I meant that it would hurt him offensively. No illegal defense rule hurts all great scorers. It allows defenses to scheme to stop individual players more effectively.
Dr. Logos huh? you meant to say if you can't handcheck jordan and bodyslam him whenever he drives he'd average 45 a game right?
No, I mean to say that the lack of hand checks will benefit Jordan, but the lack of illegal defense rules will hurt him. It's hard to say where he will fall in the end. It would probably be roughly the same. However, personally I've seen zone defense schemes hurt isolation scorers more than hand checks.
I wanna see Draymond and Rodman, Shannon killing it😂😂😂
One day some man gonna invent a time machine so we can actually see these games
Wsfslkdfjgnsd DGJHESBGJH I hope so
ask shenron
Try playing 2k19 NBA closest you will get
Nah we just need to reverse everyone’s age back to their 20s and now it’s fair game.
Nba 2k😀😀 i played the bulls vs Golden State! Jordan Destroy them at least 50 points on them every time average
Hand-checking: being able to place your hand on the ball handler without stopping his progress
What Everyone thinks Hand-checking is: You can basically punch slap and kick people when they dribble.
Yeah but again see some of the defensive pleys
Heard of the piston's Bad boys?
If the 95-96 Bulls played today it would be even crazier. They're talking about the Bulls not being able to guard the Warriors. Who on God's green earth is gonna guard Jordan and Pippen if u can't touch them. DON'T WORRY I'LL WAIT!!!
Preach
i was just in another video of how people saying lebron had more help then jordan... over here you talking like if bulls were really good. But if you say who gonna guard jordan or pippen like if they really good then did bron had more help or did jordan. cuz no one saying who gonna guard kevin love. so who had more help?
@@racedezign336 This video isn't about Lebron, but Ok. It depends on what you mean by help. Lebron had more talent around him in Miami and his 2nd run in Cleveland. But the Bulls had a better team and that's not even close. Great coach/system and the right players to implement it. All of those guys could play defense, rebound, and shoot FT's. Big, physical and mentally tough. Didn't take a lot of 3's but shot them more efficiently than teams today.
You have to take into account however that MJ *made* those players that way by demanding it from them in practice. If you weren't willing or capable of those things he'd run you out of Chicago or forge it out of you. He didn't just make players around him better by passing them the ball. He forged them into better players. When he played baseball that team compromised of role players with only 1 all star was still 1 game away from the finals. Without his influence on those players a team like that would be playing for the #1 draft pick instead.
@@racedezign336 i think you misunderstood. Jordan did most scoring in bulls. Bulls is Elite defensively. 1996 bulls had rodman who was destroying everyone on offensive rebounds. Bulls get 2 shot every time they miss. No one can outrebound him.
Only team that can beat bulls were rocket team because olajuwon is very good and he put rodman in foul trouble. if you take rodman out bulls lose.
people forget to think about Jordan with today's rules. He would average 45+ ppg with no handcheck.
90s the most overrated era
Scott Freebass #beats Jordan didn't face Zone defense.
He would get less with today's defense there's so many different defensive plays you can run now.
seriously the 90's is sooooo overrated. players are faster, stronger, and smarter now, not to mention better defensive tactics. like cmon man
he will be block by 7footer flexible versatile quick players of today.
Ron Harper is a very underrated defender. Rodman is the only guy that can guard all 5 position, not Lebron. Dennis shut down Magic, and shut down Shaq....
That's what I'm talking about! Rodman was a freak!
Lebron can guard 1 to 5
You had it going till you said Rodman shut down Shaq. .Substance abuse has become epidemic in America
@@snaggggang2603 ... In today's game Lebron can play all 5 positions because there are no clear position players but this is all based off supposition. Riddle me this: If Lebron could truly play all 5 positions, why didn't they put him on Dwight Howard during that Orlando-Cleveland ECF series in 2009?
kcire10 10 if he guards Dwight Howard . Then he won’t be able to put offensive numbers . Defending him he’ll drain him on the offensive side .
The Best team in NBA history is the 1996 Bulls. They would beat any team in any era multiple ways EASILY!
No
No
Without 5 HOF players.
What about 72 Lakers?
Both of the 80's Celtics and Lakers would beat Chicago. Boston starting 5 has 4 guys in the HOF, and LA had 3. That's 7 out of 10 starters. I'm not even going to bring the bench players.
'96 Bulls defense is just way too good
ыøødy have u seen gsw ball movement...
not against three pointers
Nope their impact won't be much
Not just MJ, but Pippen, Rodman, and Kukoc was a bad boy.
As Isiah Thomas stated, MJ averaged 35 with the jordan rules, mj would average 50 in todays era!
Joe Pro like Kobe ?
Joe Pro plus Isiah isn’t Michael’s biggest fan so if he’s saying it, there’s definitely some truth to it
The 2017 Warriors 11th most efficient scorer was more efficient than Jordan. Bulls have never had to guard a team that makes you guard them 30' from the basket. The 2016/17 Warriors also averaged more blocks and steals than the '96 Bulls. 2017 Draymond Green was DPOY and led the league in steals. Lebron averaged 30 point Triple-Doubles in the Finals and won one game in the with Love and Kyrie healthy.
Golden state has no answer for mike
Don’t think u know what Jordan rules were
Man i remember when the warriors won 73 games then they compared them to the 96 bulls people thought its gonna be a tough match and in 2017 when they added kd people still think the bulls will still win which reaches the conclusion that no matter what team it is these old folks would always choose the bulls because its got jordan in it.
These old heads are stubborn Mj struggled guarding Allen iverson and Scottie Pippen couldn’t guard Grant Hill but I’m supposed to be believe they can stop Steph, Klay and KD in their prime 🤦♂️ 🤦♂️
@@reallll2778 So I'm also supposed to believe Steph, Klay & KD are defensively higher and would not struggle against all the names you mentioned? lmao Let's act like none of the Warriors struggled on defense and not use nitpick logic to them. 🤦♂🤦♂The only thing that makes the Warriors offensive great is 3 pointers, yet the 96 Bulls have equal offensive rating with them, and you're letting them out in today's rules? What are the odds of a team that takes both sides of the court seriously? It's not stubbornness, it's also common sense. Now, no one knows who'd win that series but it's actually more stupid to think they can't match up their offense. lol
if they used the 90's rules, RIP all of the Warriors players
Handchecking rule wouldn’t matter to the warriors. Warriors make shots off screens and passing the ball to make plays. They have too many shooters. KD the only one that actually likes to post up and his shot and body sculpture is perfect for it. As long as Warriors can play decent defense, Bulls would win 1-2 games in a 7 game series.
Stop. back then, there was no zone defense. Can you imagine someone trying to guard KD 1v1. And doubling would be impossible bc their three point shooting is so mf elite
Bro handchecking goes on all the time in the playoffs the warriors would be fine lmao
@@protodg6567 I don't think you can really say handchecking "wouldn't matter to the warriors". There is no way any of them are getting to the paint, because the bulls players are stronger than they are (I believe, correct me if Im wrong). So the bulls' perimeter defenders would run press defense and that would make the game super interesting. I would like to see if some of the greatest perimeter defenders of all ttime could stop some of the greatestt shooters of all time.
@@chadwilliams5551 Cap
My question is where are the 86 Celtics and 87 Laker's in this conversation? They are in the conversation for the greatest team ever as well.
72 Lakers as well.
It's because of the 70+ wins i think
Micheal jordan
One thing that makes the 95-96 Bulls great is each individual knows their role and they stick with it.their chemistry is beyond their talents.and bottom line they know who will be handling the ball when the game is on the line.Bulls team was probably the best defensive team ever.
2017 warriors have a better defensive rating btw
@@kudamutee2203 Against a weaker league is not saying much
@@kudamutee2203 False. The 96 Bulls is a lot more defensive team. The lowest the defensive rating the better it is for a team/player. That's how you read it. lol
The 96 Bulls would've beat the 73-9 Warriors as the Cavs did.
Cause Harrison Barnes would've disappear
Yeah but we talking about the warriors with kd. And idk that the bulls win vs them.
@John Kavanagh probably not. But mj wouldn't have had to lead every player in every stat either.
I wouldnt have gone to game 7
@@jahleelx9270 Even with KD I like the Bulls just cause it’s a tight matchup and anything close I’d give to the much more experienced and better defensive team. Plus MJ is absolutely unguardable especially under todays rules. There is no one in the NBA right now that could stop him. None.
Let's put this matchup on 2k17 on the big screen on ABC tonight only way to settle this.
J. Green lol W
J. Green 2k be tripping tho
J. Green curry is OP on 2k
Vincent Beltran Curry is op irl too haha
J. Green it would be a good matchup. Jordan and Pippen vs. Curry and Durant is a great blacktop 2on2
MJ, playing under today's rules? Unstoppable. I don't care who the Bulls played, that team wouldn't stand a chance.
Chris Broussard knows his basketball man. #Factz
DANJUMA9 it’s scary how right he is all the time
Mental toughness alone would be the Bulls biggest advantage. MJ & Scottie would gas each other up, make up stuff to motivate themselves. Like Scottie would walk into practice and tell Mike he heard Steph on ESPN saying Mike couldn't check him. Then unleash him on Steph. They were always doing stuff like that.
Mental toughness won’t beat the skills on the warriors
Jordan's teams would straight dumpster either of these teams no matter the rules used. It is sad how many people will never know just how dominant Jordan and his Bulls were, because they have only seen a few clips here and there.
Exactly! Hard to translate what we saw to people who have never seen.
Yea cuz they were beating up OK the sorry Utah jazz and Seattle supersonics they would beat the warriors with kd. Lmao you Jordan worshippers are delusional af.
Comparing Draymond Green to Dennis Rodman?? Rodman is one of the most tenacious rebounders of all time while draymond is one of the most tenacious talkers of all time. Smh. Mj and Scottie>>>>KD and steph. Bulls in 5
5H1V G remember green can shoot & is more all around
Sauce Drippa713 he's also undersized and isn't even on the same level rodman when it comes to playing defense, making hustle plays, and most importantly rebounds. I'll give him the shooting, he's a better floor spacer. But Rodman was a mad man and you can't deny that.
5H1V G More like Bulls in 4...but it will be a close games
5H1V G Rodman was under sized lol what you talking about
Kenneth Swan so is draymond
Come on Shannon, Michael would average 50 if you couldn't put your hands on him.. He averaged 30 with all the banging and hand checking..
Ron Bayless that's what i said! If you can't touch MJ how can you defend him? ...
Durant is more than capable of blocking Jordan shot at the rim . Jordan has never seen a player the size of a center that could handle the ball plus he can defend. Jordan would be looking like he did against the bad boy pistons when he lost except these guys can actually shoot the lights out . what's he going to do when hes down by twenty. he going to be exhausted trying to defend these guys. Jordan wouldn't have the energy to score that much because remember in 96 he wasn't getting younger.
What do you mean man? With today's rules, Jordan would have way more energy to score because he wouldn't be getting as banged up as he would have in the 90s. KD has the height not the size of a center, even if he were to block a few, it still wouldn't matter because Jordan would just keep attacking every next possession and posterize him. Do you not remember Jordan dunking on Hakeem?
If they played with the 90s rules, Bulls would just abuse Golden State on both sides of the court.
ryanr20091 "Jordan against the bad boy pistons" was dropping 60 and 50 and 40 every night on them lmao. If he put up 40 on them he could easily put up around 70 or 80 today. Just remember he dropped 63 on the greatest Celtic team of all time against Larry bird who was on of the greatest defendersz
ryanr20091 98 Jordan was being guarded by 6'9" derrick mckey who was known for his defense. Way better defender than durant.
"Hmmm, and they blew a 3 to 1 lead in the finals, right?" ( Crowd goes ballistic) Skip still one of the greatest!
Totally agree with Skip
The Warriors are a great team, but I feel the 96 bulls are the one team with the personal to beat this team. It's the greatest perimeter offense ever vs the greatest perimeter defense ever. Pippen, Jordan, Rodman and Harper are all elite defenders. really the only way to beat the Bulls were to pound them down low (which is why teams like the Jazz, Sonic's and Pacers were the only teams to manage to win games against that 2nd three peat team). The Warriors can't do that. being such a perimeter orientated team actually plays to the bulls strength. Matching them up against the showtime Lakers whould be more interesting.
Lol r u serious hahahahahahahah with todays rules Bulls get TORCHED from the perimeter. Jordan and Pippen had a hard time constantly chasing reggie miller back in the day.
it would be the ultimate matchup of one of the best defensive teams ever (who also played great offense) vs one of the best offensive teams ever (who also plays great defense)
draymond will be dinner of dennis rodman
like if you agree
easily, "the green guy" as Rodman said would eat on his hands!!
Joshua LeFranc are you dumb rodman is a 2x DPOY
Rodman averaged like 4 points a game
@@elikavan7019 He didn't care about offense, he cared about defense.
@Joshua LeFranc Do your research.
The Cavs have no defense. This is the sole reason why the Bulls were a better matchup for Golden State. The Bulls and the Knicks in those days had the most intimidating defense at that time. What was more scary is that the Bulls had a offense to match it. The Bulls vs Golden State would be a great series to watch.
What about the 2001 Lakers? They could beat this Warriors team.
Nope Shaq was getting torched by the 98 Jazz and 04 Pistons due to his inability to defend the PNR/Perimeter. He would get “Curry Chickened” going up against Steph Curry and Kevin Durant.
Iverson alone took them 1 game with a bunch of scrubs
I hate Warrios but they are really good and they have KD, Curry and Thompson... They against Lakers 01? It's tie
I agree, no one could touch Shaq or Kobe, least of all Steph or Greene
@@l.a.6337 that 6ers team was not "a bunch of scrubs". They were a solid team, just mostly defensive guys.
@@Buttington_Headerson Yeah I agree I wouldn't call them scrubs. They just weren't offensive scorers but that worked because Iverson liked to shoot the majority of the shots. All those guy's were great defenders. Eric Snow, Arron Mckie, George Lynch and Tyrone Hill were all solid players that could play defense. Theo Ratliff was playing really great as the second best player but then got traded for Mutombo who was also great in that role.
The fact that it had to take Vegas 21 years to make a conclusion like this...is a testament to the '96 Bulls. 21 years after the 1996 season the 3-point shot has evolved and has now become the preferred default weapon for all NBA teams. It also had to take all 5 positions to be more clinical with the 3 point shot so we could have this debate right now.
I'd put Rodman on KD b/c he would really drive him crazy, Jordan on Steph and Pippen on Klay
Who’s gonna be on boogie and also Rodman is one of the best defenders ever but KD is the second best scorer of all time and curry is still gonna get his 3’s and so will klay off the catch and shoot
@@masonjar9920 This is the 2017 Warriors, not the 2019 Warriors.
Skip - "3 of them blew a 3-1 lead last yr" 😂😂💀💀 savage💀💀
They always talk about teams in the 90's being aloud to defend in that way as a negative if those teams played today. What they always miss about those 90's teams is that not only were they allowed to defend that way, but they were also scoring points against other teams that defended that way. It was a lot tougher to get points back then
(which is why playing under those rules, 99% of people pick the 96 Bulls to beat the Golden State) yet even still Jordan still scored so many points.
So imagine the Bulls from 96 playing today, yes not being allowed to defend like that, so ok they concede a few more points, especially 3's, but they also have no one defending like that in front of them, no one stopping Jordan from scoring way more points. Who from Golden State is going to stop Jordan and Pippen getting 70/80 points (or even more), between just the two of them. Then the rest of the Bulls team chipping in points. That's just attacking as they did in 96. But on top of that, they would definitely be able to adjust to the new version of defending to not concede that many more points, plus going for and getting more 3's themselves. I'm not going to say for definite, because you never know, but I would bet a large sum of money that the 96 Bulls would beat 17-19 Golden State, under the old rules and even the current rules.
Bulls had way better DEFENSE!
Steve Crispin nope bulls had waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better defense harper pippen rodman and mj were elite defenders and warriors dont play good against good defensive teams
no, they had better individual defenders, but their team defense would be atrocious and would get lost vs todays warriors
WoWzX9 even that is debatable though, Klay, Durant and Draymond are all elite 1v1 and team defenders on par with Jordan, Rodman and Pippen
Kosi TG What? Durant Klay and Draymond ain't no where near Pippen, Rodman and Harper defensively.. Learn basketball... Durant would have a hard time with Harper... Pippen would shut down Curry.. Jordan would dominate Klay on both ends of the floor.. Rodman would dominate Draymond Green
T0PSECRET Defenses were nowhere near as good as the 80s and 90s.. Put Michael Jordan in today's game.. If he wanted to a prime Jordan could average 50 in todays game!! He averaged 40 in 93.. What defense can stop Michael Jordan?
Who would guard Michael Jordan Stephen Curry😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Klay Thompson😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Especially with Jordan’s post up game.
Ricky Landry who guarding KD 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
dumoneyy23 exactly
dumoneyy23 SCOTTY PIPPEN DUH
dumoneyy23 people forget how good Pippen really was as a perimeter lockdown defender, I’m not saying he would shut KD down completely but he would make KD work for his buckets.
I remember this conversation with the Celtics in 2008. They said they had the best defense of all time and compared them with all the best teams.
If not for injuries they might be in the discussion
If you can't hand check Jordan and Pippen, those are free points. At least 50 and 40 respectively.
Antonio Armstrong Kukoc off the bench.
You had the best Defense of all Time in the 96 Bulls. They shut ppl down... In 96 rules man... The Warriors are not getting out of the second round in the West.
Terrible take gsw is much better than any west conf team in da 90s
What they're not understanding is simple. Jordan and pippen would get to the rim at will and shoot 70%. Their midrange game alone would destroy those 3s. Stop it
Their team doesn’t emphasize 3s, Jordan would get double teamed all day and night and we’d live with pippen doing whatever. He only averaged 20 a game as the second man, we’ll live
@@greatest599 even with a double team Michael still finding ways to score though
Zack Fair that’s fine
Yugi Yami oh I forgot. Mj was superhuman right?
Remember- Jordan is unguardble. Not even Durant could defend that post fade-away
Every player can b guarded or slowed down at the very least. People act like Jordan never lost a game in his life.
Draymond insanity has nothing on the craziness of Dennis Rodman.
So true
idiot green is taller stron ger than rodman
stronger? Rodman will eat draymond alive. Draymond cant even box for his life. A power forward who only average 7 rebounds is weak!
tradedossier draymond is a saint when compared to rodman
tradedossier Rodman will make Draymond as his girlfriend 😯
If u put Lonzo on the 96 Bulls , they'll sweep golden state - Lavar
If you put Lonzo on the Warriors, they’ll sweep the 96 Bulls -Lavar
You got that right !
Defense:
Jordan on Curry
Harper on Klay
Pippen on KD
Kukoc on Iggy
Rodman on Green..
Now reverse that... i don't think Warriors can keep up.
Bulls in 6
No blowouts, It would most likely come down to the wire, but, i'mma take MJ and the bulls. That man was a different animal.
Game....Blouses
Bulls had more options than just the 3pt shot. When the Warriors aren't dropping 3pt shots they aren't scoring. The Chicago Bulls just had to many weapons to be beat. Honestly that Bulls team was a dream to watch all year long. They honestly dominated the game like no team before. But most importantly they had fun and made it even more fun to watch.
I pick the Bulls but if they werent able to control the pace they might get in trouble with the younger warriors. Jordan was 33 yrs old in during the 1996 finals. Pippen was 30, Harper was 32 and Rodman was 35.
They were down 18 points in 2nd playoff against Magic that crushed bulls in previous year playoffs. You know the result? Bulls crushed...greatest full court defense ever seen in basket ball court.. so much energy spent by pippen and harper and rodman and mj to get 18 points back. Magic were very young but mighty confident. The way they beat bulls previous year was like you are oldies...u cant match us on energy.
Any time any place anywhere I wouldn't bet against Michael Jordan......would you!!!!? The best their IS the best there WAS the best their ever WILL BE....
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In your Bret Hart voice.
Bulls will beat them under both rules. Even Pippen in today's rules would avg 25-30. They play much better defense. Look at this year, the Rockets with only 2 stars are beating this same Warriors team lol
You’re acting like scoring is easy now. Also, Chris Paul is great, I would expect him to challenge the warriors.
Scoring is hella easy now. The games are geared towards offense
No they wouldn't. Warriors would win in 5.
@@choo-choosims1956 No one other than Jordan can shoot consistent midrange, and that dude has no 3 point shot. And Kerr shooting over Curry?? Nope. And there is Zone defense now, which MJ fears. So how is it easier for the Bulls??
Scottie had 6 seasons averaging 19 and 4 averaging 21 or more a game. 25 is not really a stretch. People forget he sacrificed shots for Jordan and being an initiator of the offense
Rodman, Kukoc, Pippen, Jordan, Harper... original death lineup. Back then they just called it WINNING though.
The rules doesn't matter at all. 96 Bulls defense is capable of slowing that Warriors pretty hard. And their ofense is good enough not to be slowed by the Warriors(who are rarely able to stop any team from scoring). If Warriors try to win against 96 Bulls and Jordan, by simply scoring more than them/him(what they are usually doing), I can only wish them good luck. Even if it happens in 1-2, even 3 games, it will not happen in 4 games in a series. And this is without considering mental part of the game at all, which is entirely on Bulls side. Team which conceeds over 100ppg will never win against 96 Bulls. It is that simple.
Anyway, playing in 90's rules, Warriors would be so crippled, that it wouldn't even be a contest. And if the rules today are giving them some freedom, don't begin to imagine what freedom Bulls players and especially Jordan would find. He will be simply impossible to guard. The only thing you can hope for, is colapsing zone on him. But good luck doing that against triangle ofense.
In general, if you contain Warriors ofense, they are no more than average team. And 96 Bulls were surely capable of doing exactly that. So, rules doesn't matter. 2017 Warriors have the same chance against the 96 Bulls, as currently other teams against them - to win a game now and then, sure, but series - none whatsoever.
Elton Francis Rules in the 90s didn’t allow zone defense. That’s why I happen to think GSW would be crushed if they played then. However if they played today with today’s rules even though I accept it would be more interesting I still think Chicago would have a win. Firstly I don’t agree with everybody assuming GSW making all the 3s with Chicago making none. I think they would adapt and making threes perhaps not as well but enough and hurt the warriors at the rim and mostly at the foul line. And also I think Chicago would have more possessions to begin with because they would have more boards. By the way let’s not forget Chicago probably had some of the best one on one defensive players ever. Pippen Rodman Mj Harper were all elite defensively on one on one and they routinely pressured the opponent all around the floor. Curry and Klay almost certainly would have a hand right in front of their face every time they shoot. Would you say that wouldn’t lower their percentage?
Elton Francis Elton Francis yes zone was illegal but that doesn’t mean they didn’t do it.they did it quite often actually. As for zone being effective on players like mj I agree that is true it will be a headach however one on one is just as effective stopping three pointers. So I think they have the tools to stop each other. Zone is the easier method of defense which is why it has been used in Europe for so long. The problem about zone is that it dares the opponent to shoot threes Chicago therefore most of the time wouldn’t do it and be ok with it because I think one on one they can contain worriers kd becoming the main threat. On the other hand if gsw played zone and made it hard for mj that’s not new for him he played agains illegal zones, double and triple traps all the time. I’m not saying it would be easy but he would still be more effective than kd. Chicago was the 2nd best in league shooting threes in 96. If gsw played solely zone they would surely get hurt from the three. Lastly you saying with hand checking it would be harder for Chicago is absurd because they’re the ones did it and got used to it on the other hand gsw never played agains a hard team with hand checking allowed.
@@MrEkin03 It is laughable that GSW will be a threat with handchecking allowed. Um, news flash, if GSW plays in the 90s, they would not even reach the play offs. You think just because they look great playing without handchecking that they would still look great with that being allowed in an era of great defenses being played? That is laughable. The Bulls won against those great defenses and they mastered playing great defense as well with handchecking allowed. In that era, Bulls in a sweep, total snoozefest. In today's era, I agree with MrEkin03, it will be more interesting but I will still side with the Bulls on a closer series that ends in 6 games with Bulls employing one on one D to shut down GSW scorers. Also, Jordan was double and triple teamed a lot in his day. There was one play in particular where Jordan switched hands to make the basket against the Magic's Lakers where I think all 5 Lakers either guarded him or tried to help defense Michael on that one play. I doubt zone will beat Michael who was just as good attacking with the ball or away from the ball to get open to make shots.
@@rollyvincoy3848 Bulls not reach playoff in today era coz players are better I think 97 98 Jazz or Bulls can t beat wizards today with Beal Wall Howard
@@dragondragon5437 i disagree.
They're not taking into account that offensive rebounding is at an all-time low nowadays due to scorers staying behind the three-point line. Back in '96, 31% of rebounds were offensive. This year, it's down to 23%. The farther you shoot from the basket, the more misses you'll have. Hence, way more stops by the defense especially if Rodman's crashing the boards.
how about the fact that kemp and Peyton as duo took them to game 6 lol
+Delete Ca That's called competition, son. The Sonics won 64 games in '96, and didn't lose a superstar player to injury like this year's Spurs. The Cavs only won 51 games in the season. XD
Delete Ca well they were a duos as a defenders so u can make a case on the defensive side of the ball
+Bomac94 Kemp was more of an offensive player.
+jp3813 who cares about the cavs? All I know is the warriors are beats the 95 bulls no question
Easy
90's Rules- Bulls in 4
Today's Rules- Bulls in 6 or 7
You have to at least give the bulls a chance to adjust to today's rules if your going by that and the most important question....
WHO TF IS GONNA GUARD JORDAN that man is unstoppable and he is a amazing defender if you can't see that GS fans then you shouldn't watch basketball
Thomas Ramirez you dumb
So why Jordan shoot only 41% in the 1996 finals?
because the Sonics were able to throw the People's elbow and body slam him
one of the best of all time in defending.
I'm just 10 and in this generation but I still know that MJ is the Goat that 96 Bulls is unstoppable
Why is no one talking about 89-90 Pistons? Best ever team defense, athletic, rugged individual.defenders, a center who shoots 3s, potent 3-guard backcourt. Can't imagine Warriors sweeping them in the finals.
This is just straight disrespectful, and the only reason why people can say this and get away with it, is because the Bulls not around anymore. Everyone that said such stupid things the Bulls would have made them pay.
What they always fail to mention is that in today's rules MJ would average close to 50 ppg. Thompson and Durant would be in constant foul trouble trying to guard him. Your talking about the greatest scorer in the history of the NBA.
No. In todays rules he would foul out. His percentages are around that of any other great shooter. He’d average the same ppg.
@@thetannernation who is challenging him at the rim? who's checking him on the post?
bbq chicken every single guy on D
50 might be conservative
@@pikkagtr1942 “who’s challenging him at the rim”
That implies you think he’s a better driver than LeBron. If you think that, you’re disqualified😂
He’d stay about the same in any era dude, just like LeBron. They are both transcendently great enough to play in any era.
But saying he would average 50ppg is nothing but disingenuous
Rodman would make Draymond cry bruh
Everybody seems to forget that Tony Kukoc could rain threes all day everyday.
In my opinion:
Best offensive team: '17 Warriors
Best Defensive team: '96 Bulls
Best overall team: '96 Bulls
Markus Blomqvist the best defense team must be the 16' warriors since they won 73 games right?
Defense wins games
Sauce Drippa713 It don't mean a thing without a ring.
Jason Dyrkacz hate
Sauce Drippa713 They lost in the finals lol
If Jordan played in today's rules he would be even harder to guard than he was in 96 , he could get 50 free throws if he wanted
Jacob Tryon he will keep attacking the gsw haha I can see nobody can't stop him even KD
Jacob Tryon no he would be just another Kobe.... with less offense
Kareem Codling- If Kobe was able to school Thompson and Curry, MJ would do the same if not worse easily. And defensively, Curry nor thompson wants anything to do with MJ.
If the bulls were playing with today's rules you know how much jordan would score im going bulls no matter what era
Newell Spann u crazy for taking the bulls warriors would sweep them 🧹🧹
DatBoiDylan facts curry and KD and klay would torch them with the three point line
Official Tyler curry would have a field day on the bulls
DatBoiDylan 💯💯
@@Blurbrrr you dont know basketball
rules? jordan, pippen and rodman will surely demoralized curry durant and klay. Not even a contest.
Yup back then they beat u physically & emotionally. GSW wouldn't last a series...
You guys are delusional 🤣🤣, you sound like some old heads lol.
@@roverjohnson6854 millennial alert
I love both teams. But the 95-96 Bulls in even in todays rules will smash the 2017 GSW for sure. Jordan will score better.
But my question is which team will Kerr join? 😁
Heck no Warriors in 4 no matter what era
@@kendrickgabriel2858 facts
@@sportstalkonly1442 and you too dont watch ball again😊😊😊
96 Bulls is more of a match than Cavs vs Warriors. FACTS
jordan and pippen would annihilate defenses with today's rules. yeah, they may not be able to manhandle people on defense, but no one's touching them either.
they even said harper-jordan-pippen defensively were like 3 kawhis. gsw struggled against the spurs bc of kawhi. imagine 3 of him. scary thought.
Thanks Shannon for pointing out how "pussified" the NBA is now (but you didn't mention that "traveling" isn't a violation anymore unless it's for picking your pivot foot up. Taking 4-5 steps after picking your dribble up on an offensive move is commonplace in today's game, even in college).
Not hating but KD would be crying cos Pippen is a bad man. And Draymond against DRod? My goodness.. he'd be crying in his sleep.
KD struggled against Tony allen. Pippen is a better defender, taller and strong than allen. you must be dreaming.
CloutGod negative
@@Lovechie4life KD would destroy Pippen ..The Warriors would sweep the Bulls ..he'll the '96 Expansion Raptors beat those Bulls ..LMAO
Desmond Anderson you easily have the most basketball knowledge I’ve ever seen in my life, good god, are you Greg poppovich?
They would've put Rodman on KD, and it would've been game over.
Warriors didn't get good till they got a bull in Steve kerr 😂
Yeah that's Why they lost all the games they played when Steve Ker Was injured almost all Year. They went 24.0 start without kerr and won 73-0 without kerr
False they were already on their way with Mark. What are you talking about lol
There was a quote which i heard which unfortunately is true Black people can't get anywhere successful without the help of a white man.
Donlin Buchanan mark Jackson made that team
Donlin Buchanan your too dull to understand bro,its not the coach,its the talent,to much talent...
What they are forgetting is back in the day the 3 point shot was easier to close down because it was closer to the basket. In todays game it is a harder decision to mark the 3 point shot tight because there is more space in behind. Therefore from my point of view the 3 point shot is easier to shoot (less pressure, more space).
It was closer for a year and a half kid. The veterans hated it and the Jewish commissioner finally moved it back.
Skip forgot about the "illegal defense" that is used in the 90's. Warriors defense is waaay more effective than the 90's Bulls defense.
😂 Those fans look bored with this topic
LOL I bet they are.
2toneSB because they're all young and just started watching basketball 3 years ago
2toneSB nah I think it's because the topic involves the GSW and the cavs aren't mentioned in this particular discussion and they're all wearing cavs related apparel
2toneSB their cleveland fans getting swept. lol.
Zach Stevens surely they won't get swept but I doubt they'll win
Who is going to stop MJ from scoring 60 a night without hand checking.
MJ The GOAT and the BULLS 90's team will and can beat any of the NBA team elites especially GSW. Cupcake!
Yepp
People forget how good n polished that 96 team was they r the best team i ever saw..they were just hitting on all cylinders the whole season
think about how many free throws Jordan would have got!! he's unstoppable going to the lane. without beating Jordan up he's going to average 50 points a game.
Under today's rules? No hand checking? Giving the edge to Warriors? Just the thought of it, Jordan will be scary on today's rules.
The Bulls were better...Warriors might get 2 games...MJ, Pippen, Rodman...Come on NOW!!!...
@Elton Francis mj averages like 40 in playoffs with better defense and handcheck
Elton Francis bro, the warriors wouldn't even be able to handle the defense, Rodman would be all over KD like nobody ever was before.
GamingXY Crew Defense was Not better
@far in between The Bulls were forced to play 6 games against Utah Jazz... And the Warriors never lost ever since they acquired KD.
Why is it that whenever defense is brought up they never talk about one of the greatest defenders of all time? Rodman was a beast.