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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ธ.ค. 2024
- Jay Williams, Marcus Spears and Monica McNutt debate whether the 1996 Chicago Bulls with Michael Jordan or the 2017 Golden State Warriors with Kevin Durant would win in a 7-game series.
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They asked MJ who would win one game between the two teams and his response was epic... He said Bulls would win by 2 or 3 points - when asked why so little he said it was because most of his team was in their 50's and 60's now
Wow!!!!!
cringe
@@toms5774 u cringe
Lmaooooo
And people get mad at Lebron for being arrogant…
The only question you really have to ask is what would MJ have "taken personally"?
2 deep threes from steph and Jordan is waving off double teams for the rest of the game.
He would've taken the 30 point beatings from the warriors personally, and still not been able to anything about it.
A kick in the nutsacks by Draymond
The fact that someone thinks they were better than him... That would drive him insane - Bulls in 6
@Stuffboi_Prone Dont let nostalgia and generational ego cloud your basketball takes.
The 96 Bulls Rodman missed 18 games, 97 Rodman missed 27, 98 Pippen missed 38. They won 72, 69, and 62.
@Ghost2000 this is NOT true. Lol
better bench
@@leonzaduncan2438 none at allllllll lol
@@jessicagalvan3358 96 magic had Shaq and Penny a team that won 60 games and just came off a finals appearance
@@leonzaduncan2438 lol name a team as good as the 2017 Warriors that the bulls faced
Eras don't matter when you have a 7 footer pulling up from the logo.
Not to mention Iggy would help guard MJ and David West as well
@@yom0mma214you think they could guard MJ he is Kobe but better clearly never seen him play. MJ would drop 45 a night on Golden State 😂😂
He is kobe😂 don't compare him to mj😂 mj is miles away better than kobe
@PolkekekeAint no team beating MJ’s Bulls in a 7 game series, especially a team that is soft on defense and rebounding. Bulls in 5 or 6.
@Polkekeke They were great offensively, not defensively. There’s no way they have any chance agaisnt the Bulls, especially the 96 Bulls who are arguably the best perimeter and inside defensive team of all time. They’d absolutely kill the Warriors on the glass, and they have nobody who could guard Jordan and Pippen. KD would have to average in the high 30s just to keep them competitive. Not happening with Jordan, Pippen, Harper, and Rodman all taking turns at defending him. The Warriors wouldn’t even beat the 2001 Lakers.
They said who’s guarding Steph but the real question is who is guarding Jordan?🤔
klay
@@josephekpo2884 lol mj dropping 50 on klay
Lebron dropped 50 and lost
The only dangerous player would be Durant, Steph and Klay would probably go 3-30 from the field combined against the Bulls.
@@josephekpo2884 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
The fact that they always need to compare against the 96 Bulls prove that the 96 Bulls are the gold standard. Why not compare the Warrior team against the 2001 Laker team that went 15-1 in the playoffs? Shaq would score 100 against the Warrior team. Draymond would foul out in 5 mins.
Shaq would get played out of the game today
@@jovanfilipovic5115 but Rudy Gobert can play in today's league? lol
@@PuertoVerdean Gobert is 10 times the defender Shaq was
Just pick roll shaq and get Steph or kd or a iso with him and I bet he gets in foul trouble. Shaq aint doing nothing with his out of shape self. Out dunk these 3s!
@@SimplyOneSound so Rudy Gobert can play in today's league but shaq couldn't? Lol
Jordan laughing like he did in the last dance. 😂
Exactly with a cigar in his hands and straight chillin 😎
🤝🏽
U right can Andrew I really lock down Jordan that's funny coming from hater jay and Marcus
Stop it
Who stopping curry and KD
People tend to forget that one of the players on that team did coach the '17 Warriors to a chip. I'm sure that Kerr could use his experience from his days as a Bull to find and exploit an advantage over MJ's team
still won't work
@@hittman23 LMAO
And MJ would need to punch him again. 🤣🤣🤣
@@hittman23 Y'all forget MJ lost 9 conference finals, playing against plumbers
@@LM-he7eb wonder what years
Jordan literally dunks on everyone when full contact was normal. Just imagine now
3 points is more than 2
@@margtheblarg10 90 percent probability vs 40
@@Tecmo84 exactly not only that a Jordan led team is going to plummet that percentage even further...these modern cats don't know real defense bru
So what?😂 What's your point?
@@RR-fc3zm in my Funkmaster Flex voice...'AT ALL!!!'
Monica's face during Jay's talking was hilarious.
Forgot she was on camera lmao 😂😂
He be talking in circles
Women shouldn’t even be allowed on sports shows
@@reeseangle9621 do something about it then.
@@reeseangle9621 and men wonder why feminism exists🤦♀️🤦♀️
That Warriors team was legitimately unfair and ruined the league. I hate to say things like that but it was true. They were literally unbeatable in a series. 3 of the top 5 best shooters in NBA History on one team.
When people hear the word Jordan, they get in a daze and get nostalgic and lose all sense of rationality. I agree with you. No team is going to beat Steph, Klay, KD.
The 96 bulls aren't better than the 85 lakers....
@razkable😂
GOAT Jordan and his best team will lose to Splash Bros + KD in embarrassing way.
The warriors almost lost to hardens rockets. They were down 3-2 and just like we expect - cp3 gets injured and doesn’t play and playofff harden shows up. Don’t act like this warriors team was unbeatable.
Warriors don’t need to stop the bulls; they would just outscore them. KD steph and klay would all get 25-30. Bulls have no where near the offensive fire power of the warriors
Right? Warriors would be up by about 15 going into halftime, like every game. Bulls can compete for probably 2 solid games, then their soul would be crushed knowing they couldn't match that onslaught of firepower .
@@marcusg1021 yeah 96 bulls can’t go compete with these warriors team it’s like hakeem replacing luc longley for I’d go warriors in 6 or 5
bulls had them clamps u sleeping riding meat
@@marcusg1021stop riding
Only thing I would say is I’m not sure they scoring that much a peace w dat bulls d bacc then but sumwhere around there
You don’t have to chase when you can switch. I can see GS pulling Rodman out the paint defensively but Curry getting a pick from Harper to Jordan….. good luck
Harper only played like half the game,
Bro what… why would there be a pick where curry gets either Jordan or harper switched onto him. They’d definitely attack tony or Rodman off screens and kill the bulls
you act like klay and kd can't run picks together too. and then steph curry is waiting for a 3 in the corner while draymond is there to make a quick decision between getting it back to klay for 3 or giving it to kd anywhere inside the 3pt line to raise over his defender and knock down a shot. Team was a mobile artillery unit with iggty coming off the bench locking up.
@@BigbearTKO Cant argue with some of these fellas. they glorify as if the 90's basketball era was filled with unbeatable players and can't accept the fact that players have been getting better as years go by
@@xoniye3573 thank you
I’m sticking with Jordan
You don’t bet against Jordan. I got 96 bulls. Jordan and the defense they have is the X-Factor and for Jay William to say that Draymond Green is gonna play better than Rodman….in what universe?
When Warriors played after 2 decades since Bulls last won their title, the game has evolved so much and Bulls have contributed more to the game that we have today. We shouldn't be having these meaningless discussions as there is no ending for this stupidity
Yeah bulls contributed their head coach lol😂
i agree that comparing different eras are just stupid, but respectfully, warriors system revolutionized modern basketball
If they really match, gsw would definitely win.
@@adhidwiyana7106nah, recency bias
@@NITESHADOWshouskeRegular season record team +Kd really legit
Warriors have a high chance of success even with 90s rules, for these reasons
1. Ball movement
The ball just never stops moving, not by dribbling but by passing it to the right person. Their ball always finds the guy who needs to shoot so the argument of locking down Durant, Curry, and Thompson using a man-to-man defense is kinda stupid.
2. Efficiency and volume of outside shooting
They are not just shooters, they are high efficiency and volume shooters.
3. There is just too much talent on this team.
exactly, and im somebody who believes jordan the goat. They're team is just stacked, they got Kd for christ sakes lmfao
Warriors is definitely winning because back then there's a rule called illegal defense.
U .. are ..preaching. ITS OVER NOW
Bulls would still win
Not saying you’re wrong but Mike, Pippen, Rodman & Harper are great defenders…
The fact that their comparing a juggernaut of a super team to a team that was super… says a lot about Jordan Pippin and that bulls squad.💯💯💯
Exactly and who's a better coach Phil Jackson a Steve Kerr
U also have to remember they only brought kd to that team. everyone else was drafted on the warriors so it’s kinda even
@@glovesonline lol lol It's not even close don't believe what ESPN says.
The Bulls win. Michael Jordan is the reason why
@@trevinhickman9022 warriors win.. kd is why.
Hypotheticals are always fun, and defensively the Bulls match up with the Warriors much better than people think. Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman all made 1st team all defense that year and Ron Harper was no slouch either. And all 4 of those guys were between 6'6" and 6'8". The ultimate switchable defense before it became cool.
Let's also not forget that the "most talented team ever assembled" was on their way to being bounced in the western finals a year later had it not been for a Chris Paul injury and 27 consecutive missed 3 pointers so not like they were utterly unbeatable.
With that said I still think it would be a toss up 7 game series and whoever imposes their style the most consistently would win. If the Warriors can push the pace then they probably win. If the Bulls control the tempo and slow it down like the Rockets did to the Warriors in 2018 then the Bulls probably win.
What about the death lineup when the Warriors go small though? Luc Longley vs Draymond? Bruh…
They made it against what tho
@@astheskylarksings finally someone who knows that they are saying 🙏🏼
Nobody wants to talk about that rockets team owning GS
Reggie Miller did very well running off screens vs Bulls, replace him with two better shooters Steph/Klay and it's overkill.
The greatest offensive team ever taking on a trio who are arguably the greatest defenders in their respective positions (MJ, Pippen, and Rodman). Would be a treat. I got Bulls in 6.
@Billy Bliss Haha. You’re so funny. Make us laugh again, clown. You know nothing.
@Billy Bliss Another bandwagon who started watching basketball in 2015. Thinking the Warriors would SWEEP the Bulls 😂. THAT’S embarassing. Never talk about basketball again.
Draymond said bulls are overrated so you're saying lebron's team that beat them is underated or better than Jordan and bulls lol
Even the g league in todays game would put a fight on 96bulls
@@MambaBreezy24ohh man you act like a fan.....I have watched bulls play ... and I know how dangerous they are... but we are talking about 2016-17 warriors..!! Noooo the bulls aren't beating the warriors.
Steve kerr said it very well. He mentioned the bulls offense was actually designed for modern day basketball. Maybe bulls would lose a couple games. But Phil Jackson would adjust by the next game and figure it out. Would be amazing to see how both teams deal with MJ, Steph/Durant/Klay defensively.
No way Dre can keeps up with Rodman. No chance. And if they play in today's rules no adjusting needed, Jordan's lanes are wide open.
The lanes are as open as they are today because there are shooters all over the floor and defenders are spread further apart. Other than Kerr there's nobody really on the Bulls I'd want shooting the 3 ball and up against a team defense the Bulls would be screwed offensively with Rodman on the floor who can't really do much scoring outside of 5 feet there's no real reason with a defensive anchor like McGee protecting the rim you can't just play the defense they played on Rondo before he added a better 3 to his game and just sag off him and do a soft double team on someone else. I'd imagine they'd have Klay and Draymond double team Jordan almost the whole time since it'd be hard to punish them for leaving Rodman open.
@@jamespuso1627 do you really think they would leave Pip, or Harper, kukoc open for a 3?so we are only talking about Rodman. They ran the triangle for space not hard to get him out of there
@@Tecmo84 Well, if we're talking about the double team and leave a man open bit yes we're only talking about Rodman. As for leaving the rest open for 3s, that's kinda where it gets tricky because it depends again on if this hypothetical match up is happening in 1997 or 2017. I'm pretty sure 1997 was the last of those few years they shortened the 3 point line to up scoring in games. Pippen, Kukoc and Harper were 32%, 33% and 29% career 3 point shooters and most 3s back then were pretty wide open, so with a normal size 3 point line generally speaking yes I'm fairly comfortable sagging off them to close driving lanes if I'm coaching the team defending them. With the shortened 3 point line maybe less so since all 3 were shooting well beyond their career averages in '97 but the line being shorter also means less spread and space to cover.
@@jamespuso1627 Who is guarding Jordan in the post? The lanes don't have to be open.
@@vitezjura If I'm Steve Kerr of 2017 I'm gonna throw a double team of Klay and Draymond at him at first. If he's catching it in the high post off ball I have Klay trying to keep him out of his spot and deny him the ball and Draymond on him when he probably catches it where he wants anyway to keep him from getting closer, maybe try bringing real heat and have Klay try to get him to pick the dribble up and keep him from getting his fade off clean. He's the GOAT so even against that kinda heat he probably drops an efficient 24-25 but if I'm the Warriors keeping him from exploding for a 40 piece is probably enough for the W with the offensive firepower they have.
I think this is a great match up. Imo, I would put MJ on Curry, I think MJ could guard him better than Harper. I think the matchups favor the Bulls because nobody can stop MJ. Pippen has a better chance of making it tough on KD than the Warriors stopping MJ. It'll likely just become a outscoring match between MJ & KD. GSW's 3pt shooting is OP, but Bulls were pretty good at the time too, granted they didn't shoot as much. MJ was 42% from 3pt, Pippen 37%, Kukoc 40%, Buechler 44%, Kerr 51%, so I think they can hang when it comes to shooting too. It just really comes down to who gets stopped, MJ or KD.
But when were talking about shooting just think about curry klay and kd
Of course nobody can stop MJ but the Warriors can put either Klay, Iggy or Draymond on him. So much defensive versatililty on this squad. Even KD's length would make MJ work harder to get a shot off.
@@buckzzduran7796 Yes volume of three's is your mindset because teams shoot 50,60,70 threes per game now.
MJ would get worn out having to chase curry around and guarding him out to 30 feet. That’s not a good matchup for him at all he never had to play against a player like that in his era.
@@2robjenkins : Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf was Steph Curry before Steph Curry in 90s and played a similar game that Steph is playing today.
Reggie Miller played a Similar game to Steph in the 90s and would run around screens just like Steph. MJ contained both of those players at different times.
Steph would get blown out the water trying to defend MJ.
MJ would probably guard Steph slightly but Ron Harper who was one of the Best defenders in the NBA at that time would step in.
Bulls in 4, Steve Kerr knows all the Warriors plays
steves shooting steve in the hotel
LMAO.
Coach steve kerr knows all the bulls players
How would young Steve Kerr in 1996 know the Warriors plays from the future in 2017? That doesn't make sense.
you make no sense in fact it’d be the other way around ☠️
Still seems like they're dismissing defense. Whenever there has been a team that got up into Steph Curry he's been rattled. We just saw Durant this year when Boston double teamed him and he was rattled. Plus they were talking about the free flowing Golden State offense but what about the triangle offense the Bulls ran to perfection where everybody touched the ball. At the end of the day defense wins championships and the best defensive team could stifle the best offense and that '95-'96 Bulls had four of the best man on man defenders ever and nobody can tell me that the Warriors would just getting their shots easily, whenever they wanted.
'Whenever there has been a team that got up into Steph Curry he's been rattled'
This narrative is so false and only applies to the few bad games he has, think to yourself how many bad series has curry had in his career? 1 maybe 2 so for the other series which hes been excellent do you think those same teams werent playing the same 'get up to him defence'. I promise if he had a bad series this finals vs the celtics people will say the exact same narrative but because he didnt nobody says that.
'We just saw Durant this year when Boston double teamed him and he was rattled. '
Kd in 2017 was pre achilles and also 4 years ago on a team where you cant double him like the celtics did so that statement doesnt make sense.
The warriors have a better overall team, better bench, system, more spacing and doesnt rely one 1 guy to get 50% of their points and also doesnt have a guy who is a problem offensively(rodman).Very easy to bring up the defence narrative when the bulls never had to worry about guarding guys past 15ft in a slower paced era dominated by bigs not guards 90% of the time,These guys are running sets 30ft out.17 warriors were the 2nd best defence with an average height of 6'7 (minus curry).
@@loosenup8152 Exactly. On every single point. I don't understand why people are so blind to these points. It's unreal how strong the nostalgia around the 90's bulls is to warp people's perception of the flat out facts.
@@loosenup8152 wow it’s honestly a breath of fresh air to see a well written & broken down analysis like this, that’s rooted in REALITY
Too many ppl overrate the 96 Bulls & the 90s era
That 17 Warriors team would sweep the Bulls
The only teams that could possibly beat the 17 warriors would be the 12-13 Heat & the 13-14 Spurs
Curry just beat the best defense in the league i remember the Celtics being called a generational defense idk what you’re talking about
The Celtics were one of the best defensive teams in the playoffs and we just saw how they got obliterated by Steph and the Warriors
This isn’t as simple as matchups defensively. The warriors were always running and switching and spacing the court more than any team ever
Triangle Defense would lock up everybody
@Eugene Oleary Nobody will lock up an offense of Durant, Curry, and Klay, which also happened to play in great harmony.
@@olearyeugene triangle defense is dead lmao, that wont work in todays playstyle
Bulls did a lot of switching
@@olearyeugeneThere was no triangle defense only offense.
I'm 42. I watched both teams play. I love Jordan as much as anyone, but the Warriors had the 3 greatest shooters in nba history on a single team. The most unfair team ever constructed. They would destroy the bulls. I'm not going to be a Jordan stan. The bulls never had to face a team with more then 2 all stars let alone 4 all stars in their prime.
Nice take,bro u know basketball
@@brooklynkenzie3104 truly
So, Are the Harden-CP3-Capela-PJ Tucker Rockets underrated? They took to 7, and CP3 was out for important moments
Nah…Bulls played better teams than these Warriors.
@@dougiet.2112 That was the 2018 warriors and the 2017 warriors were way better.
They talking like jordan won’t score 50 in this soft era 😂 have they seen how piston chopped down jordan every time he goes inside but still score 30, imagine how he will do today 50 is easy for him
The argument is not about how much is Jordan dropping pal… Curry, Klay and KD can combine for 80.. which still doesn’t mean they win, but yeah… go ahead and drop 50, all others still have to combine for at least 60/70 if you wanna beat these warriors
Plus, physicality won’t matter, draymond lives off it.. and what you gon do when a 7 footer pulls up in yo face? Tackle him mid air?
And Harper has to much smoke in his lungs to chase Curry all game 😂
@@carlospeixoto833 ikr
Ik Michael Jordan is the goat and the bulls were amazing. But cmon man the warriors got top 5 scorer of all time, the greatest shooter of all time, the second/third greatest shooter of all time, a dpoy, and probably top 5 greatest role player I’ve ever seen (2015 fmvp) all in one team. The pacers take bulls to 7 games with 1 shooter but this 2017 warriors team got like 3-4 of them. And don’t act like Klay won’t do anything to Jordan, Klay is known for his defense. It’s not even close warriors in 5
Bulls would win, Golden State didnt see a defense like those Bulls, Jordan would have outshined Durant and Curry and Rodman would have folded Green
2017 warriors but it depends on which era they're playing in. Keep in mind the rules are different now than back then
Still will beat them
Yeah imagine the bulls playing in todays game. You know how much foul trouble they would give teams?!
@@lancewilliams2480 They would get fouled out every game and Jordan would get triple teamed
stop this arguement like era is going to drastically gonna change the warriors. Talent is talent skill is skill and the warriors dominating in any and every era
I think warriors would still win, we arent gonna act like the athletes now are not better than back then, handchecking was overrated, jordans was the greatest of his era but athletes just get better
Jay and Spears always say Lebron is their GOAT, so why would they give any love to a team that swept Lebron's teams in the finals lol? That's why these arguments are never dun bcuz everyone has a biased opinion..
Because they're part of the reason why his GOAT argument actually becomes stronger.
They are heater’s
The warriors was a great team,I really like that team,bot In the end of the day 90% of people know the bulls are the best team ever
@Billy Bliss facts folks be weirdos how tf so u stop the warriors without them stopping themselves
96 Bulls would dominate with that perimeter defense. Keep it a buck, that Warriors team would’ve lost to the Rockets had CP3 not gotten hurt the first year
That was 2018
that was not 2017
@Keandré Sutton I assume you didn’t watch the Bulls
@@The1FlyPanda 2017 season
@@vk0208 2017 season
Funny thing is Michael Jordan in this Era could score 90 points! He would average 50 a game. Curry and his crew ? U guys don't understand how good MJ was.
jordan scored 63 and still lost to the 86 celtics, this team is above the 86 celtics…stop dickeating jordan basketball now is way more evolved in everything than it was back then
Bulls in six or seven in any era, their ability to switch on defense they can play any style offense fast break or methodical half court offense not turning the ball over and the greatest closer ever I’m taking Bulls in hard fought series
Illegal defense rules curry and KD will have a field day….
Good luck against a zone defense after illegal defense taken away. Jordan would be fine but what will rodman and pippin do with a packed paint.
you're overestimating the bulls if you think they can properly guard the 2016-2017 warriors with KD, Steph, and Klay. The only way you beat that team is by shooting them out the gym. It took one of the greatest shooting performances in Finals history for the Cavs to take a game from them. it was an outlier and that was the only game the warriors lost the entire playoffs. there is too much scoring talent on that team, along with curry running around the court which will scramble their defense and generate open looks for KD and Klay. And they have elite defenders in Klay, Draymond, and Iggy. They will be able to limit, the rest of the bulls squad, minus jordan, and drop 120+ a night pretty easily. It's just too much to deal with and it doesn't really matter what you do defensively, you just pray that your team is hot and can score like 130+.
@@yslj5983 - *IT TOOK THE REFS TO GIVE STEPH SOME FAKE TECHNICALS AND GAVE QUEEN PUSSBRON SOME SUCKY SUCKY* = Get your FACTS "straight" before you blurt out b s .
@@cobrakainevereverdies6940 i see a bandwagon gs fan here
Thank you Jay. Why do so many people always say that the offense wouldn't be as free moving, or something like that, but never mention that the Bulls never defended anything close to the Warriors from a shooting, spacing and movement perspective?
No on on that roster is going to be effective chasing Curry all night (please don't give me this Ron Harper nonsense). No one on that roster can really contest KD's jump shot. And then you still have Klay.
People also like to forget that that warriors team was also an elite defense. They had a 104 defensive rating in an era where its far, far harder to defend due to rule changes, increased spacing and focus on efficient offense.
Meanwhile, Harper, Rodman, Longley's defenders are cheating off of them the entire game and Kerr, Kukoc and Longley are targets on defense any time they're on the floor.
Both things are true. The Bulls never had to deal with anything like this, but the offense _would not be_ as free moving. 90s rules matter.
I think the bulls would win. their defense is tailor made to beat the warriors. the real question in my opinion is the 2001 lakers vs the 1996 bulls.
La 2001 vs chicago 96’ …. Man im taking bulls in 6
@@youngcactusjack 💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯💯
Look At Allen iverson stats against the bulls as a rookie Steph would have destroyed them let alone KD
Um Well Ima Say Da 1996 Chicago Bulls Win In 7 Games Against Da 2017 Golden State Warriors In A Very Close Game By Only 2 Or 3 Points Dats Right I Said It Da 96 Bulls Would Only Beat Da 17 Warriors In 7 Games By 2 Or 3 Points But For Da 2001 Los Angeles Lakers Us Da 1996 Chicago Bulls Would Easily Taken Dem Out In Under 4 Games No Bap All Of Dem By 30 Points💁🏽♂️🤷🏾♂️💯
@@nasirmills101 Capping Like A Mf😒🤦🏽♂️💁🏽♂️🤷🏾♂️💯
The Bulls would sweep the Warriors. A real question would be ‘96 Bulls vs. ‘86 Celtics.
It's all about which rules. If you're playing 90s rules and officiating then Steph Curry is no where near as effective. We've seen him struggle when teams are allowed to be physical with him and grab him. The 3 ball is the advantage of the Warriors but I believe defensively the Bulls matchup perfectly. I also believe Dennis Rodman would get in Draymond's head. Also don't forget Kawhi Leonard and the Spurs were giving them all they wanted until Kawhi went down. The Bulls would be a very tough matchup for them.
This 👆
Coulda swore grabbing someone was always a foul in the NBA...
It doesn't matter which set of rules they play in. That Bulls squad would be even better with the rules as they are today. THEY are the greatest team ever assembled. The Warriors would not win more than 2 games against them.
Wasn't greater than the warriors
@@palmpalm5663 They would beat the Warriors 10 series out of 10 series. Anyone who knows basketball knows this. Especially ones who witnessed both teams live.
Jay lost me when he said he'd take Dray over Rodman and Klay over Pippen lmao
Don't forget Kukoc
Why not ? Draymond was a better offensive player than Rodman, better playmaker and passer.
@@dynamic6645 Yes, but Rodman was there to defend, and I think green would not enjoy facing him on offense.
Rodman all day. Most lockdown defender anyone has had to face.
Draymond Green over Dennis Rodman? Don't let the worm see this. Idiot talking heads.
I love how everyone acts like physicality would even matter. Dude, I love the showtime Lakers, but they weren't exactly "physical". They just didn't get punked, but they weren't exactly trying to be more physical than their competition. They tried to outrun them. That's kind of how that Warriors team functions.
Plus let's stop the notion that today's players don't have a school yard street ball switch they could turn on if things got physical. You only think they're soft because that's how the game is officiated nowadays, not because the players just have gotten softer. They're grown men, they will respond.
THANK YOU !!!! 🙏🏾
Showtime Lakers played in the 80s. In the 90s the game changed. The Bulls played hard nosed D every possession. I love Steph Curry he's my favorite player today but I've seen what happens when he's played physical. Its thrown him out the game many times
And look what happened to the Lakers against Jordan and the bulls in the finals
@@grinchoi1 And even then him being ineffective he's still putting up decent numbers. Additionally, having KD alleviates how tough they can play him.
Plus the 80s was just as tough as the 90s, if not tougher in terms of physicality .
@@Jkev24 basketball is a physical sports by Nature the bulls defense would have no affect against the warriors because Allen Iverson only 6'0 ft 100 pounds I didn't see that defense have any affect against him or Damon stoudemire or any player who had a handle and athleticism please stop the cap
Monica knows ball 🔥 the Warriors may be the greatest offensive lineup we’ve seen, but the Bulls were the greatest offensive and defensive team we’ve ever seen..
Man the Bulls!! That year the Bulls was probably the best DEFENSIVE team ever!! Mj was all defense and MVP and scoring. Pippen and Rodman all defense. Rodman averaging 17 rebounds a game. He would be all in Draymond's head
Here’s the number 1 thing you forgot Jordan who tf is stopping him🤔🤣 nobody
Right!!! I don't think the Warriors could get past the Orlando team that the Bulls swept
Who was able to stop lebron? Nobody. Who won the chip? The Warriors.
Lebron aint MJ lol
Oh god Rodman would murder green under the rim
Forget the hand checking, hard fouls and all that...the game is played much faster now with more possessions now. Give Michael Jordan more possessions and he'll average 40pts on 50% shooting. Good luck stopping him.
Now imagine that now in today's era with the refs being more strict on hand checking
Better defenders to wear him down and better offensive players to wear him down. If Kobe is a more talented version of mj and is barely top 10 all time you got me lmao
@@josephrush8078 who said Kobe is a more talented version of MJ? And by your own logic that would mean MJ is barely a top 10 player all time. Is that what you are saying?
Who are these better defenders and offensive players?
@@karimw.9954 it’s widely known Kobe is the most talented player to potential ever touch the court. Don’t tell me you seriously don’t know that.
@@karimw.9954 offensively mj isn’t doing any better then James harden. And Kobe is barely top 10 if u seriously thought he was top 3-4 then your not educated by influenced
It's not about the rules/officiating. It's play style. If you take them from 1996 and just have them play vs '17 Warriors, the Bulls will lose by a minimum of 30pts. It's going to be a sweep as well. The Warriors will humiliate the Bulls every night. I think any team that made it to the playoffs the past 3 years will DOMINATE the Bulls in every series. That is if you just make them play vs one another right away.
But if you let the Bulls adjust first to modern play style, training, conditioning, get them familiar with the thought of centers moving fast and taking 3s, let them know and adjust to seeing 7 footers taking step back 3s or point guards taking 3s from half court, if you let the Bulls train and prepare and adjust (even their bodies) to the modern style, I'd say it's Bulls in 5.
Y'all must've watched the Curry GQ recently😂
This was one of the better debates I've seen on first take. Perfect.
And Jay is absolutely correct 100%. People are super mad about it. Bc mj could never lose is what they been fed.
And SAS not being there has a lot to do with it.
It wasnt a debate...they all agreed.
@@martelljhixson umm no , the woman basketball player didn't (I'm sorry I forgot her name)
@@hiteshs6211 yeah that lady Def gave the vibe that she was a jordanite. But she really couldn't debate the clear cut facts that that Warriors team was ridiculously absurd good, even for Jordan to overcome.
It depends on how you think basketball truly works and what variables you choose to "control" in this hypothetical game between teams of different eras. For example if a team 20 years from now plays like 2017 GSW but slightly better, would I consider them to be better than 2017 GSW? No, because GSW did it in 2017 with less knowledge and information and earlier in the evolution of basketball. 1996 Bulls is a greater team in their era than the 2017 GSW warriors are in theirs.
If they play against each other, whose rules are they playing under? Do we get to wipe out all knowledge of basketball gained between 1996 to 2020 and let the raw talents of GSW play against the Bulls? Because 1996 Bulls have zero knowledge of the 2017 GSW. Or do we magically input all knowledge gained and give it to the Bulls and try to re-imagine how much better they would be with it? The teams that comes later has an advantage because they have more learnings and information. Can GSW develop a free flowing offense if they developed in the 90s or would they have given up that play style? Does MJ have a 3pt shot because every player in the league today that can shoot as well as MJ has developed a decent 3pt shot? So many variables......
EASY SWEEP FOR THE BULLS..3PEAT TWICE..WARRIORS NEVER DID ..
The bulls dont get the luxury of gaining imaginary knowledge/skills they never had. And you don't get the excuse of taking the knowledge and skills the warriors have and diminishing it because the bulls don't have that. You just take both teams in their primes that's it. That's why newer teams and players are always going to be better than the older ones. New teams have the benefit of learning from old film and new training/health techniques. That's why imo jordan and alot of the older gen are getting overrated. These new school guys are faster, stronger, smarter, and more skilled than the old cats and that's going to continue to happen as the game continues to age. It's that simple.
Also what rules. Hand checking and physicality or the soft 2017 game of touch fouls
@@jon401 Well your wrong about the faster and stronger part. Some of the fastest most explosive players played in the 90s. Skills and shooting is way better today though.
@@bumpin0 Pace of play is at historical highs. On average players are running for longer periods and faster than ever before.
It’s Tha Bulls!!! They haven’t lost in the finals….
All theses other guys lost in the finals more than once.
The greatest scorer in the history of the league is playing on the bulls, not the guy who just got swept in the first round.
MJ vs Curry both in their primes, i think Curry would quit basketball after.
Anyone but Kobe would quit, Kobe would get mad and train even harder. Rest of the league? Rage quiting bbl
Giving the bulls 2 games on this warriors team is really friendly. Steph and Durant are the most efficient high volume scorers god created. It took a historically great offensive game from the cavs with Lebron, Kyrie, and love in order to take one game off them in the playoffs.
Rockets with an injuried cp3 took the 7 games, they got zero chance against the bulls, stop it.
The Rockets won 3
@@guilhermevieira6010 exactly
a@@guilhermevieira6010 but that was another season
@@guilhermevieira6010 Iguodala was injured most of the series
I am sick of hearing players today can’t play in that era …, players today are higher stronger and faster for the most part I am sure they can adapt …, it’s not there fault the rules have changed
They may be higher lol and have access to better technology in their gear and sneakers but talent wise it’s unfair to gauge given all the advantages of today. Back then salaries were smaller and no one had access to top tier chefs, trainees, massager therapist, healing equipment etc. All they got back then was Gatorade and ice packs.
Exactly, Jay Williams was on the money the whole segment
@Sanyo Jean 😂😂 *bigger my bad …, they say Steph is small the guy is 6’3” and and put on some muscle that’s above average for a Pg
Curry is higher, stronger and faster than who?
@@PHRESHIDENT lol
It all comes down to KD for me. Steph has never been spectacular in the finals. Can Pippen and Rodman slow him down? Id say yes. The bulls are going to absolutely dominate the glass, so unless KD can play just spectacular against the hardest defensive matchup hes ever seen the Bulls are taking the W.
@Ghost2000 Remind me who won FMVP in 2018?
@Ghost2000 look its not like he played bad in his finals appearances but as perhaps one of the greatest regular season players ever, he has never had a great finals. His shooting percentages in the finals go quiet a bit down for starters. From 47 to 42%, his three point shooting also drops from 43 to 39. He seems to thrive in the moments where he can open up a lead and close out games in those conditions but not when the game is closely contested. For example if your up by 10 Curry can really put the nail in.
@@seangermano1563 Curry averages 26 points in the finals on 42% shooting which is very similar to Larry bird who averaged 23pts on 45% shooting in the finals
@@Centurylamar88 comparing points today, with points in the 80s is just silly. Completely different pace, rules, and style. Not to mention they played different positions and roles Bird also averaged 11.6 Rebounds per game in the Finals, had higher stats in pers in steals, blocks, fg%, 3pt%, less turnovers ect.
@@seangermano1563 yeah but you said Pippen and Rodman would slow Curry down😂 first of all Rodman would be on Draymond/KD and Kerr said in this hypothetical match up the Bulls would try to get a combo of Harp and Pippen on Curry, yet none of them would be prepared for the running match they would have to deal with. Curry doesn’t stop moving on offense. And any tiny crack of an opening he will shoot and fire
Easy sweep for the Bulls in any set of rules.
The Bulls can adjust to today's rules, but GSW can't adjust to 90s rules.
Why can’t the warriors adjust? 😂🤡
@@dadillonful because I've seen many times how GSW folded against what passes off today as hard D, dimwit. They'd literally be overwhelmed by the type of D fielded by the Bulls, especially by 90s rules.
Curry still dropping 11 3s and kd still putting up 35 on pippens head
@@jeremiahrodriguez937 lol, he'd be lucky to make even one of those witj Harper or Jordan on him 😂😂😂
KD can't handle physical D, that's a fact 😂😂
yeah you dont know basketball, the wariors would decimate them
The James Harden Houston Rockets team took that team 7 games. How in the heck they supposed to beat the Bull's. Y'all tripping! They beat the same team in the finals. The league was watered down with garbage teams then. San Antonio probably would've beat them if Kawhi didn't get hurt. You can't name a great team they beat.
Not the same thing because of 3 pointers the bulls don’t have shooters like that not even close to kd, curry, and klay. The mid range shots from mj aren’t saving the bulls
@@jj10176 Well they did have the most accurate three-point shooter ever. But seriously, Jordan - and Pippen - would torch the Warriors, who would have no defensive answer to that. It would be a good match
@@jkingdom3 they aren’t beating the gsw Kerr doesn’t take as many as klay, curry or kd. Not to mention offensively kd and curry are a better offensive duo then mj and pippen. The gsw were known for blowing teams out by halftime
Lol Bulls need 7 game just to beat one great shooter reggie miller
@@anzai5552 Very conveniently forgetting the repeat threepeat... that was the only game 7 they faced in their 6-0 run. Bound to have the odd one out
Bulls in 6, Warriors got no one that can defend Jordan and Pippen. Green with his attitude would get taken out with two technicals for how aggressive the Bulls would play. Curry and KD wouldn’t be enough for Golden State.
Huge Bulls/Jordan fan, but the answer is yes, the Warriors could have beaten the Bulls. The rules are important, but Golden State was a stacked team that was built in a way that didn't exist in the 90s. Teams didn't or couldn't stack the way they do now.
My man know ball.
@UCQAbyukGjhbF09EuBCRDI_Q nobody had the two greatest shooters ever, top 3 scorer of all time and when of the top defensive players in the league lol. Warriors in 6
Lol na
Completely ignoring defense I see. Best defensive team of all time versus best offensive team of all time. I'm taking the defense because defense usually wins in that matchup.
Fake bulls mj fan that’s what you are just to be honest. Why people make this comment so dumb and so obvious😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
"I'll take Dreymond green going against the likes of Dennis Rodman"
Uhhh no, if Dennis Rodman can shut down Shaq in his prime, what do you think he's going to do against that green guy?
proves you have no bball iq. You gonna try to stop Draymond like shaq? This dude said Dennis Rodman gonna stop Dray? What does that do? Lmao. Stop him from scoring 10pts. Stop him from playing Def?
@@calvinvang4749 Draymond Green is essentially their PG a good portion of the game. He's their leader and their defensive anchor. Look what happens when he got taken out of the series vs the Cavs. Warriors blew a 3-1 lead.
Rodman was far better than Dray is.
Draymond has bench player numbers...........overrated.
draymond green would not stand a chance against Dennis Rodman or Charles Barkley
The Bulls length, size and versatility when comes of their offense would be to much for the Warriors. We assume the games would be close. Jordan, Harper, Pippen, Rodman and Kukoc. All five were good passers, they can switch anything. I love Iggy but he's not a consent enough offensive treat to overcome Draymond Green lack of scoring abilities. The Bulls just too big and too versatile
Bro Klay, Durant and curry. On the court 3 off the best 4 scorer are on the warriors side. And you talk about need scoring. The two greatest shooter ever and the most efficient scorer. Bulls team goes in foul trouble after 5 minute
Warriors bench are no scrubs either. Livingston is too under appreciated
dude there is no way the bull beating the 2017 gsw lol..with klay durant steph onthe court i dont think so..the bull can switch all day..they wont stop the gsw from scoring..they will probably stop curry..but not durant nor klay..all this player will just pull it infront of your face and still score..it doesnt matter
@Simon Richmond Yeah. Kevin Durant is a guaranteed 30-point on 55% shooting player in the playoff games. It has been shown that every time Curry and/or Klay went cold, Durant will always balled out and carried the team offensively (2018 final, 2017 final, Clippers series).
Bulls losing in 5
71/10 w/ ring over 72/9 w/o ring . Theres no comparison , ill go with the bulls . #1 in offense and defense = total lockdown in warriors team.
You're not stopping Jordan from getting to the paint at will the time and era they played and will work both ways
You not stopping Steph, Klay, and Durant from getting a shot off
@@jonesm313 klay and curry would get clamped by Jordan and pippen only person to worry about is KD
@@yeahyeahyeahwhat6271 Yea you could think that
@@jonesm313 rockets had them beat the following year
@@yeahyeahyeahwhat6271 did you know ball handling wasn’t as great wen Jordan played curry would cross mj too many times
It’s so close I think it comes down to the rules. Both teams were perfectly built for their eras.
The bulls would be a different team in 2016-17 they would probably pick and roll as the triangle is easy to zone up today. Toni Ks playing time probably goes way up. Rodman and pippen would both have to hugely adjust their defense. Their lack of shooting becomes a problem.
1996 warriors probably run into the problems the pacers had with Jordan and Pippen always having a fistful of stephs Jersey like they did to Reggie miller. The bulls would manhandle them on the perimeter. The illegal defense rules would hinder the warriors excellent switching quasi zone.
So I’d say whatever year the refs and rule books are from is the year that wins.
The 3 point line was 1 ft closer to the basket in 1996 too, which means 3s would come even easier for the GSW. Teams are guarding Steph as he crosses the 3 point line today, and the Bulls would be no exception. Klay, Steph, and Durant can shoot anywhere on the floor. The Bulls would require too much adjustment defensively to compete.
Let's pretend the refs and rules are from 2006. Who wins?
@@SgtPayneX whats the rules from 2006?
Why are we giving the bulls handchecking tho of them dudes are elite defenders then they should be able to guard these warriors without grabbing jerseys or putting there hands on them
@@Cakebattered steph, klay and durant would be full court guarded...
Ron harper 6'6 6'7 pg defence. Michael jordan 6'6 sg defence and offensive powerhouse that nobody can stop. Scotty pippen 6'7 Sf can score on anybody and one of the best defenders of all time . Tony kukoc 6'11can score over anybody down low and outside the arc either playing PF/c. Dennis rodman 6'8 can play PF or C. One of best defenders ever and one of the best rebounders ever that also shutdown shaq. Now i could say put luke longly down low at certain parts of the game to put GSW in foul trouble last 3 can switch dureing the game. DA BULLS WOULD SHUT THEM DOWN. WETHER WE PLAY SMALL OR BIG DA BULLS WOULD SHUT THEM DOWN. AND FACT NOBODY CAN STOP MJ .NO WAY GSW BEATS DA BULLS
Ya'll all don't understand how weak the league is now. Jordan and the Bulls would beat them 4-0.
I think the bulls would win in 6 maybe in 7 the Chicago defence would be to much for the warriors and Michael Jordan would limit Steph Curry's impact on the game
What? The bulls defense have never seen elite perimeter shooting like the warriors
@@trydn1049 Bulls has MJ one time best defender of the league, and Rodman three times best defender of the league... And Pippen didn't win another one cuz MJ and Rodman were better defenders. Who`s gonna stop Jordan? If Rodman stopped Shaq, And challenged Jordan..., he could stop Durant...
@@trydn1049 doesn't matter. Jordan, Pippen and Harper could guard steph, klay, and KD all 94 feet for the entire game. I guess this comes down to what era are they playing in. 90s rules or 2010s?
@@mr.palabras9768 Lol, you obviously don't grasp the fundamentals of basketball. Rodman couldn't stop KD. He literally doesn't possess the physical tools to do so.
He may be strong enough to annoy a post-up player like Shaq, and quick enough to bother Jordan, but he's just physically not even tall enough to contest jumpers from KD. It's a pretty regular problem for most players in the league.
@@randumo24 Dude, you've just said he's strong enough to guard Shaq, and fast enough to guard Jordan, period.
I’m sure by looking at what warriors had accomplished, all the commentators who favored the warriors ‘17 to win over bulls ‘96, had regretted what they said. What they had forgotten to mention was the bulls will adapt to any situations and knowing Jordan’s competitiveness, he would have dissected the warriors and dissolved them mentally and emotionally! And with Phil Jackson coaching the team, they will create a game plan that will suffocate warriors offense! But to close the argument, unlike bulls! They win the championship, warriors can not close! The reality is warriors have talents, but bulls have the heart and mental toughness and superior talents that none of todays team can ever possessed! If you would rank any players from warrior none of them can be even in the top 30 of all times! But jordan can arguably the GOAT! Pippen, is even better than any players in the warriors, overall! Then you have Rodman, arguably, greatness defender!
Two MVP type players and another Reggie Miller type player in Klay is going to overcome any heart one player has. Bulls lost to the Pistons and needed 6 games to beat the Sonics and Utah in the Finals and that Warriors team is stacked.
@@imoretull the bulls never went to game 6 IN THE FINALS. The warriors didn’t even win the chip after winning 73 game. The warriors literally would be into the bulls perimeter defense, best of all time. So no the warriors are going to struggle. Add Rodman Messing with head and people forgot the bulls have Steve Kerr and kukoc hitting 3s too. Not mention in the bulls 72 win season they had 3 players (Kerr, kukoc and Jordan) over 40%+ shooting 3s, less than 4% from curry’s 45. Let’s break it down on who wins what position. pG warriors+. SG bulls++ SF tie PF bulls C bulls bench bulls coach bulls Bulls all day and twice on Sundays
@@Thorcat001 they needed 7 to beat mark jackson & reggie miller, u don’t think kd,steph, draymond, klay are better than them?
@@wills.9422 and the warriors lost in the finals to the mavs in 5. Then to lebrons cavs. You don’t think the bulls are better than them?
@@Thorcat001 u sound slow bro. You acting like LBJ isn’t a 🐐lol
The bulls mind games would have played a part, you know jordan is getting in some peoples heads, steph probably will choke, I personally will take rodman over draymond as a pure defender..nah im taking the bulls…warriors minus KD still couldn’t seal the deal against cavs, so with them core players still there you know they got fragile mindset issues
He said minus kd 💀
U right because Curry doesn't play that well in the finals
remember when Pippen refused to check in the closing seconds of a playoff game cuz he didnt get the last shot
In todays rules Jordan would average 50 for this finals. He’d average 60 if that’s what it took to win the series. Dude none of the dude in San Fran have his killer mentality. None of them. Their smaller at almost every position too.
Did he say he would take Drammond over Rodman? LMFAO does he not know Rodman is the Greatest defender and Rebounder of all time ? And does he know he shut down as Stephen a call him the most dominant force in NBA history Shaq? Lol
FACTS 💯
Yup,don't know what is funnier and dumber of those statements, Drummond over worm or Iggy over kukoč 😂😂😂
Rodman had crazy guy strength
@@aljosaerceg1102 are you high? Iggy is miles better than kukoc. Better defense, passing, scoring efficiency, rebounding, IQ, etc. He's basically better in every way. He has twice the career win shares Kukoc has. Somebody doesn't know basketball.
Jay smoking some weed before this.He thinks highly of Mr Triple Single!Lol!!
The reason why NBA teams are able to shoot so many 3's in today's NBA is because there is no more hand checking which slowed the game down back in the 80's and 90's.
Stop being delusional. There is a larger quantity of better shooters in today's game vs 80s and 90s.
Are u an idiot or just ignorant
1996 bulls getting swept by 2017 warriors😭 4-0 with a minimum 40 point lead
That 96 bulls team would absolutely body any team in the history of the league🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@nomarxistspls90 no they really wouldn’t I could name 30 teams that would sweep those bulls easily😭 quit d riding
there’s no sports team or individual from the 90s beating a modern team. 90s cowboys aren’t beating the chiefs. Sampras isn’t beating Djokovic and 90s bull ain’t beating golden state. Sports evolve and gets better
During the 1996 Season
- MJ- Scoring Champ, All Def
- Scottie- All NBA , All Defense
- Rodman- RB Champ, All Def
- Kukoc- 6MOY
During the 2017 season
- Steph- All Star
- KD- All Star
- Klay- All Star
- Dray- DPOY, Steals Leader
I believe the 1996 team was more accomplished as far as a single season is concerned
@@Krazyfrm18thstreet Not a single person in existence who knows ball thinks this.
'96 Bulls will find a way to beat any team in any era period !!
Jay Williams blabbing about cardio, is he aware Michael Jordan rarely slept? He can play 10 hours of golf, drop 50 in a NBA game, and still beat you in poker after the game. His cardio was insane.
you were there?
The Bulls had a hard time guarding Reggie. Now times that by 3, one is 6'11." Whew!
You do know that was 98 Bulls right, not 96
One is actually “6’12”
Reggie never beat them, I do wins and rings, all this and that is for nothing.
They never had a hard time. Stop making up stuff
Having a hard time and beating are two different things.
Nobody in NBA history has better conditioning than Dennis Rodman
I'd put money on LeBron James and Ray Allen before betting on Dennis Rodman
@@hmrhuang Why Ray Allen?
That's one person. The entire Warriors team was running. The game is way faster and they still played defense.
The comparison’s were wrong.. should be Dennis-Green, Kucoc-Thompson, Harper-Iguadola, Pippen-Curry, Jordan-KD. Or Jordan-Curry, Pippen-KD.. doesnt matter. The bulls win!
I’m rollin with the dubs here man the skill level is outta this world
Ppl really don't know how good Toni Kukoc was.. That dude could alone could take over a game and hit three's as accurately as Steph and Klay
Right
As accurately as prime Steph and klay is crazyy
Definitely the Warriors, 73-9 team that pretty much changed Harrison Barnes for KD.
Exactly, and the 17 Warriors could've broken their 73-9 record, if they really wanted to.
Definitely wasn't the same team they gave up all their bench to get kd
@@j317 - that's right. The "Strength in Numbers" slogan of the Warriors pre-KD, became 'in KD we trust'.
Definitely the Bulls. Jordan doesn't lose in the Finals plus the Bulls have home court if it went 7 games.
LMAO. The so-called 73-9 team LOST in the finals.
Media hype and nonsense. You dont dismiss the bulls and what they had. The defensive switching alone between Harper, Jordan, pippen and Rodman.. If they ran kukoc at the 5.. Nah man. The warriors would have to hit well over 40% from 3 over the entire series to keep it close. Bulls in 5
MJ would've kept Steph to 10pts every game.
Pippen would've been KD's Daddy.
Rodman would've made Draymond foul out.
Kukoc was a 6'11" 3pt sniper that Iggy wouldn't be able to stop.
Kerr, most accurate 3pt. maker in history to counter Klay's accuracy.
Plus Kerr can't play and be coach, so Warriors have Mike Brown vs Phil Jackson. Bulls in 5.
ok grandpa
Lol bias… the warriors would shoot lights out on the team , they aren’t guarding them
KD would be son’D but Kukoc Would be the 7 foot sniper on the floor shining?
@@ghosuk5552 No Bias. I'm a Dub Nation fan because of Coach Kerr and NONE of the Warriors teams wouldn't have beaten the 1996 Bulls. Closest would've been the 2017 and 2015 teams. 👍
@@bigahmar11 He was Dirk before Dirk, a consistent 20pt night scorer with range playing 4th fiddle to MJ, Pippen and Kerr. I could also add Luc Longley, Ron Harper, Armstrong, the bench of the Bulls was EVIL!
I wouldn't underestimate Jordan at anything. If he gets the rules where he can't get hand-checked, he's dropping 50 PPG against these Warriors. MJ prefers if he's the underdog. Those 1996 Bulls swept the Magic.
And who tf did the magic beat or what Chip did they win
who you assuming is guarding Jordan?
But see the thing is that’s bad if he’s averaging 50 Bc that means he had to do all the work.
Bron Dropped 50 and that still wasn’t enough bruh
As good as dub nation is, the Bulls would have taken them out if they were playing in the 90's.
warriors have too much fire power idk
Warriors have too many weapons it doesn’t matter what era they play in
Why ? Zones were illegal back then, so was handchecking and the 3 point line was shortened from 1994 to 1997, Warriors would demolish those Bulls
@@dynamic6645 they could foul harder
Mj is the key factor. Theyre not stopping him and rodman would take durant out of the game
When he said he'd take Draymond over the worm, I choked.
Pretty easy answer…90s officiating: 96 bulls molly whopping warriors
2000s officiating: warriors are dog washing the bulls.
90s rules ain’t stopping Steph from shooting that 3 or KD hitting that middie
@@Justin683 naaah they would whine soo hard if its the 90's officiating
@@Justin683 def not. Steph will pull up from 3 forsure. KD will hit the middle. But remember KD has a tougher time against very physical defenders. Obviously he still does great but that’s the best Defense on him. Remember PJ tucker last season? He played extremely physical defense on KD and did a great job.. they went to the league, said they missed too many fouls and the next game he couldn’t play as physical.
Steph also with extremely physical defence suffers a bit. When they played the cavs in the finals every time curry came off a pin down or a screen the cavs would bump him ir move him off his spot playing super physical to tire him out more, and it was pretty effective.
The 90s rule just making it like 3x more physical.
@@yeahaight1163 kd averaged 35 that series
@@marvelousegbo7048 yeah I’m talking about a specific game.. maybe game 4? I can’t remember. PJ played extremely physical Defense, like the refs let him get away with like early 2000s defense. He he’d Durant to 3-12 when guarded by him. Then the next game, and for the rest KD the series he wasn’t allowed to play defense that physical because the refs started calling fouls.
Let’s keep it a buck. You’re not stopping any great player, you can only slow them down anyway. That physical defense will slow down KD and curry quite a bit. The bulls D was crazy. No just Jordan, pippen and rodman. Almost every role player was a dog defensively.
Pat bev and Lou will took a fully healthy warriors team to 6 games 😂😂😂😂 y’all really think the 96 bulls don’t have a chance huh
Until they said enough and killed the
They don't want to remember that.
And Chris P and Harden had them down in a series lol
@@acelight2698 Yeah but the Clippers didn't have Micheal Jordan.
Wrong year lol 2019’is not 2017 team
Roster
Didn't the Warriors almost lose to the Rockets that same year in seven games and the only reason why some people say they wont is cuz Chris Paul got hurt...yeah I'm taking Chicago
I do not think most people remember how good the bulls defense was that year.
Remember how bad the offense was back then
Because they allowed the teams to play defense. I am a basketball coach, so sell this crap excuse elsewhere
@@georgiosgrigoriadis6200 I mean... they could only play man to man defense and could not play zone. They allowed hand checking yes, but push offs were easily forgiven throughout multiple series in the 90s.
It really matters what rules that they going by. If they play with the 90 's rules then I give it to Chicago but if they going by today's rules then I give it to the warriors.
I agree. Both teams maximized their potential in their own time frame and under different officiating rules
exactly
Exactly. I wish more people realised this.
Nope mate it doesn’t matter.. draymond lives of that physicality, and what you gon do when a 7 footer pulls up in yo face? Tackle him mid air? Stop it.. want to get physical on steph? Fine, chase him then.. only steph can stop steph.. if he’s not hitting it ain’t because of the defense we’ve seen how contested are the shots he hits.. you can’t double team these warriors team
3 point line got shorter so now the Warriors are even more dangerous.
After this year's playoffs, we saw how KD handled physicality(today's standards) against the Celtics. I doubt he'd be better in a more physical series.
Well the issue is he can pass to either another Elite Score or Elite Shooter lol.
He didn't have Steph or Klay to pass to or Green to help. Completely different team and system. Stay relevant my G.
this statement is so true... this young 'un think everybody moves like MJ because everything is so loose... no defense at all... but once you put on the pressure and physicality these cupcakes warriors would crumble like a cookie.
LMAO, they were doubling KD. Imagine if KD had steph klay and andre to pass? what happens then?
@@youtubeisannoying3907 He literally had Kyrie and Seth+Patty (both 40%+ 3pter) to pass to, and the outcome was laughable. On the flip side Rodman, MJ, Scottie, 6ft6 Ron Harper is not the same as Tatum + 6ft3 Marcus Smart. Look i am not saying its not close, it's gonna be a 7 game fight and can go either way but i haven't seen enough from the warriors to get the same level of confidence as you as if the warriors would sweep the bulls
MJ's Bulls will win all day! No doubt!
I think it would have been hard for GSW to guard MJ but it would have been hard to defend the whole GSW team. Too much movement and also the bench is very important yeah the 5 starters can matchup but on the bench this is a whole different history. Bulls were winning games with 90 pts, GSW were 90pts in the 3rd quarter that shows the defence in Bulls era and offence in GSW era. But we will never know maybe MJ would have scored 60 every game or maybe KD would have been unguardable to any player in the Bulls team.
Kd is soft s-a-w-f-t the only era KD would maybe punk any bull is this one and KD just got punked by Tatum so.....m
Golden had a mega team... Steven ..durant and the other guy i cant pronounce.... They come off from as one of the top players in the nba.....3 of the best in 1 team .....jordan didnt had a mega team....with megastar line up same players won it 6 times in game 6 ......so yeah it will difficult but curry will and the warriors will nor score over 100 point a game with the bulls.... That's a fact
So, the scores in the 90s are actually a bit misleading. It wasn't only a matter of better defense (tbh, I'm not convinced any part of it was due to better defense).
1) the pace was slower (~92 possessions per game in 1996 vs ~97 in 2017).
2) Offenses are far more efficient now that they emphasize 3s, shots at the rim and FTs.
3) Defense is much harder to play now do to the amount of space all the extra shooting creates.
The only problem they would have is MJ and Rodman besides that GSW
In 6
Mj scoring 60 every game? 😂😂😂
My heart says the Bulls, my mind says it's the Warriors. It was a different era, they played a different style of basketball in the 90's. If this was a video game and you could average the stats to balance out the difference's in (era) play styles, the Bulls would win.
Agree also bulls were better defensive team I got bulls also and the 2001 Lakers would beat the warriors
@@chriswalls5831 wrong 404. Warriors 2017 are far away anything.
When its all said an done kd an steph will be top 10 all time .people dont realise that warriors teams was built with 2 of the best shooters ever an arguably the greatest scorer along with one of the best defenders to play the game in draymond so its really tuff to say bulls would win
Andre one the best wing defenders too
Funny how people try to compare Draymond to Rodman. The scoring average is about the same but Rodman leaves Draymond in the dust as far as a rebounder and defender and it isn't even close. Rodman averaged over 15 reb per game 6 out of his fourteen years and double digit reb the majority of his career. Draymond has never avg double digits EVER. How are these two considered close in talent level.
@@cornpopsrazor5375 but he assists in doubles
When did you start watching the NBA
Who you taking out of the top 10 for those two?
warriors in 5. MJ is the second greatest player ever, but MJ and and scottie pippen arent stopping steph, KD, klay, and draymond.
Bulls would easily win jay will is a clown for thinking green is better then Rodman
I mean he is
@@blackboyfly5647 lmao😂
@@chicago1952 I’m a bulls fan and Draymond is the better basketball player overall and an exceptional defender but Rodman is the best defender and rebounder in NBA history and suited the Bulls to a tee, Draymond is clear on scoring passing and basketball intelligence compared to Rodman
It’s the Bulls 4/5 times. No question. They can defend the perimeter and play man defense. The Bulls would dominate them on offense, and slow them down on defense.
Man defense dont matter if u chasing klay and steph over screens for days
How do you slow down steph curry? Man has a hand in his face and hits 30 footers. He can hit you from everywhere and if you dont double him well, houston we have a problem. How you slow down KD? It dont matter if you throw a body at him. You seen KD play? Nobody even gonna reach him to block his shot😂 wanna slow down klay thompson? If this guy is in the zone he and the basket become one person. 37 points in one quarter on 100% FG. There is no slowing down man. Were you asleep from 2015 to 2019?
Who exactly is going to defend Curry and Klay? Is MJ going to spend his time chasing over one of them all game on defense? If not both of them are putting up 30 burgers.
It’s more easy to adopt on defense than to instantly have a talent. Let that sink in. Warriors in 5.
Who says 96 bulls had no talent? Lmaoo.. if they practice 10000x threes way into their prime in this era then i really think they can adjust to todays game add to the fact that almost all of them had lethal mid range and outstanding defense..
It comes down to mental fortitude and who wins the mental game. Easy. '96 Bulls.
This is what Ryan Hollins said and everyone clowned him lmfaoo 🤣😂😂
Facts!!!
Nostalgic old heads are so stupid 🤣🤣🤣
Ryan Hollins is a goofy guy
No, that's different. Ryan seems very disrespectful back then to Jordan. If u watch the clip, u will know it. So,, no. J will is not like Ryan hollins, he is not disrespecting anybody. That's it.
@@madegm4765 niqqa everyone so soft nowadays
Curry will absolutely have a field day. In most finals he has 2-3 people guarding him, however back in the day with iso match ups, they will never think of doing that, as a result Curry will be regaining down 3's, while KD has a field day in the paint. MJ would be MJ, but they can not match the shooting prowess of curry, and the complete package of KD.
Facts 💯
Stop doing drugs, please
No team is beating KD, Steph, and Klay with Iggy off the bench.