Who Wins: 1995-96 Chicago Bulls vs. 2016-17 Golden State Warriors | Gilbert Arenas & Aries Spears
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- 72-10 Chicago Bulls vs the 67-15 Golden State Warriors go head-to-head and Aries Spears makes it clear: that Warriors team is OVERRATED! Gilbert Arenas doesn't think so...
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Smartest thing Gilbert ever said : “Depends on how mad Mike is”
He could be super saiyan angry & 3/5s of the line up would still drain 40 footers in his eye… that warriors team was a cheatcode
@@atlntcostv7293 thank you
Actually it was a stupid quote. It doesn't matter how mad Mike is, the Warriors will torch the Bulls
@@SickoRed72 who is gonna hold Michael Jordan? He taking over the entire 4th quarter
@@tommybrown187 Warriors can throw multiple defenders at Jordan. But the main guy who can defend Jordan in the 4th is Iguodala. If they're playing with today's rules Warriors can double team him to force him to pass. With 90s rules or today's rules, Warriors would dominate the Bulls
The team with Steve Kerr on it wins
😂
Quite the paradox
Things just got interesting 🤔🍻🍺
Playing or coaching?
🤣🤣🤣🤣. So both wins. 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
I think they’re downplaying how good GS was in 17-19. Their constant off ball movement alone could kill teams.
Their not downplaying them at all. Aries is but Gil isn’t cuz he loves the new era. They talkin bout a defensive team vs an offensive team. The defensive team will always win that fight but they will also capitalize on those defensive stops.
@@kingeriq don't you think gs is a really great defensive team
@@siobrianmarlou5809 nope 🤣🤣🤣
@@kingeriq in basketball great offense beats great defense every time
@@chico4ezz365 lmao it doesn’t but ok if u say so🤣🤣
The disrespect to the warriors is outrageous…
People are acting like Seattle didn’t push them to 6 games in the finals…imagine just changing GP for curry and Kemp for Durant….not mentioning Klay for Schrempf and still gotta deal with one of the best defenders of this generation in draymond
Meh, it’s like Pele Vs Cristano, Hulk Vs Thanos, we have to admit supremacy
@@ian-th7rd lmao so Dennis rodman is a scrub, Draymond wouldnt even be a factor. Bulls in 6
I couldn't take this conversation seriously, and I watched those Bulls teams. All I kept hearing was "Get off my lawn"
@@ian-th7rd draymond is not one of the best defenders of this generation 💀
I’d love to see prime Rodman and Draymond matching up
Rodman would dominate green . he would also do things that's not basketball . like touching on his booty lol . he goin get green ejected 🤣🤣
Lmao why? There’s no reason for them to guard each other
put rodman on kd and have him just fouls the shit of our kd pretty much tucker like did last year season in playoffs put pippen on draymond cause you need someone like that to play that chess match with draymond cause I think Green is too smart for rodman offensively he would just slice him with his passing
@@hok937 noh piped would lock down kd he would score and he skinny lol
Guy…..cmon. That’s not fair. Rodman would destroy him. His energy is a problem
Lmao he said "Rodman is not gonna be able to play that Wrestlemania style basketball" lmao
He said that like Draymond don't get into foul trouble in every playoff game lol
As though Rodman’s style of defense was purely physical bully ball. Man this was insultingly ignorant of Gilbert
I died lmao 🤣
@@sheldoncelestine6564 They called him the worm for a reason. Rodman would swarm and pester you with his body and hands. James Worthy told a story one time that Dennis would pinch your ass cheeks when the ref wasn't looking lmao
@@sheldoncelestine6564 everybody was bully ball they. Couldnt defend that’s why they did that..when a handler like Tom hrs away came mj said hell na he was scared that match NOBODY back then had skills like that beside Hakeem u seen what he did..if the bulls can’t foul hard they losing they couldn’t defend they had to push shove pull and jail ball to victory they fucken put their hand on u and guide u where they want u to go get the fuck out of here lol they probably couldn’t even hold iggy lol
Crazy, Steph running Ron Harper off the floor, remember he can shoot from anywhere, plus the warriors offense is like poetry in motion.
Exactly then they will be able to let kd go 1 on 1 and his own side sometimes too
Yup!!!
Naw Harper was a great defender
@@schoolboy1984 not once did he have to guard someone from half court stop with the old head sh$t
Remember that harper wasn't on the bulls for his offense 72-10 bulls harper was one of the main reasons that record happened the guy defensively was a dog steph might score on him but he won't be shining too bright then bulls were great defensively on the perimeter they were nightmare for the opposing teams so good luck if you think the warriors will have their way against this bulls defense
Just saying…if they’re playing today’s rules, Kukoc becomes a much much better player and sees more minutes. He’s perfectly built for today’s league
Playmaking stretch 4💯
He was the blueprint for Chris Bosh
I’m definitely surprised by Gil’s comment.. this was the same guy dogging 90’s players & said Dennis & Scottie would be guards in todays age 😂 pick a side man
Well considering that a 6'8 lebron can play center today. I like the bulls chances.
Gil sways w whomever he is speaking to. And will say it with such conviction tho. Knowing the next day he got a current player on...and is gonna say so e shit like "they would be abused by today's players"🤦♂️. 🔥🗑
WTF DOES THAT MEAN RODMAN IS LIKE 6’5 and played center 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Charles Barkely like 6’5 and played PF/Center bullshit
@@Jiron127 no he can’t. Lakers didn’t have a Center decent and they give up 60 point any game in the lane.
@@thedude9044 forreal that man cant stand on whatever he says. Flip flopping all the time
I’m a little surprised by Gil’s answer. I think we’re forgetting how good Steph is off the dribble. He and KD both, this isn’t like Jordan guarding Reggie from the 90s he was a spot up shooter. Steph also will have you running through 10 screens before you catch up to him. The game is just different now. No matter the rules I don’t see the bulls beating the KD warriors. They have 3,guys that can score anywhere on the floor. The bulls have Jordan. In most games 50% of the offense was Jordan. I don’t see the bulls keeping pace offensively.
Mike ain’t guarding Steph, Ron Harper is. And Steph has always had trouble with physical defense and big point guards. Ron Harper is both. Steph struggled against Matthew Dellavadova fam.
@@2gunzfilms425 struggled yes but still scoring 25 a night, that was also before KD came into the picture. He only needs one step on you to get his shot off. I can’t believe I’m even saying this and I’m a bron fan but it’s true. You can take all the defense on that bulls team which was damn near everyone. I’m taking the guys who can pull up from the logo there is no guarding that. The warriors played liked the spurs the ball is constantly moving. It’s not take your man and guard up like it was back then.
Steph is slow. His handles don't matter. The athleticism and length counters that. Whst makes him lethal is the shot. And for the love of God, MJ ain't guarding Steph. That's Pippen
Bulls would win 4-1
Yall got too much of a NBA 2k/ AAU- Fantasy hoops type mentality when having these discussions. That's why the Lakers lookin like they look now... it's the matchups that matter, and if you think little ass Steph, and unathletic Klay have any advantage over Jordan and Pip, I dont know what to tell you. KD I can see,
Y'all do know Kukoc would be the perfect stretch 4 for today's game
he couldn't guard a fire hydrant tho they would attack him on defense over and over and over again
@@dmoney7784what defence? Warriors got nothing. Bulls have the far superior defenders.
Stretch 5* ftfy
I feel like I’ve heard Gil debate about this and until now, I don’t remember him ever giving the edge to the bulls
Boy went crazy when he said the Warriors wouldn't best them 80s teams, they would blow them away 😭
Tripping balls 😂
He bias asf
The fuck he said shaq and Penny's magic are beating the warriors 🙄 😒 man on that good good
@@wigunbor they would smoke the warriors
87 lakers smoking them
86 Celtics would be a 7 game series
Aries Spears is the problem when you talk sports with an old dude who's nostalgic. He's living off of nostalgic memories and not facts
Totally, you can't have any logical discussion with this kinda dude. If you're gonna start spitting facts he'll get really loud and agitated.
@PMac81 What "not facts" is Aries living off? If you are going to make a statement you need to back it up with actual examples of what Aries said that are just "nostalgic memories". It appears you have the same problem of not providing actual facts that you are falsely accusing Aries of when it comes to sports debates. That's the problem when you debate sports with people who can't show you actual examples.
The gooey racoon is bellilgerent.
@@brent9908 He just doesn't agree with what Aries is saying thats all. He has no facts to disprove what he's saying, otherwise he would've responded to you with why he disagrees with him with facts of his own
That's most people. 80s babies will say 90s are the best and it goes from there.
Bruh... just the sheer volume of threes and the distance they can shoot it from and the space it creates is going to be a problem for any 90s team. Just like it took a whole year and a half for the rest of the league to catch up to what the warriors were doing, it would take AT LEAST a series for the Bulls to even schematically come up with an answer for that.
Ps. And Ron Harper is NOT locking down Steph Curry. Stop it.
Bro, that's what said.
I dont see Harper locking up Steph
Lmao yeah he would wtf LMAO holy, steph ain’t going nowhere, I see where y’all are coming from though
Exactly Ron going to be TIRRRRRRRRED
@@DAGGETT062891 if Ron Harper can guard mj then he can slow down steph nd he’ll u got Rodman pippen nd Jordan all healthy then Durant klay nd curry are all getting slow down against 3 dpoy Caliber players
@@Major.321 did you watch the NBA finals this year? It doesn’t matter how good of a defender you are. What is needed to guard Steph is not only just good athleticism and mobility to stick to him. You need high basketball IQ to understand when the screens are coming, where he is going to reposition himself on the court. Steph catches you sleeping or ball watching for one second and ur toast. That’s a three and splash. Ron Harper is a good defender, but is he good enough to switch and hedge through dozens of screens and chase Steph around? I doubt it.
Arenas forgot that Rodman in Detroit has guarded both Jordan and Pippen... And Rodman is actually smaller than what he is billed, he is just about 6'6", also he is very agile has speed and lots of stamina...
Facts and guarded magic, bird, worthy, jordan, pippen, barkley, etc
Yeah and you’re forgetting Rodman got his ass handed out to him by old Larry Bird
@@knathanknathan Fair enough. But that version of Rodman was more effective against back to the basket players and not against constantly moving shooters.
@@knathanknathan But you cannot question Rodman's motor/agility. He is a phenomenal athlete. He is fast and has springs on his feet, he has a 2nd, a 3rd, a 4th and a 5th jump.... A small ball Warriors will be too small against the 3-centers (for Shaq) and the 6'11" Tony Kukoc....
this argument was just biased from the start there could be a team with kd steph lebron kawhi and they would still say the 96 bulls
Not biased its the truth
@@Lboogs7 it’s cap lol bullls getting curb stomped by the warriors
@@greatest599 u gotta be smoking some good 💨
I’m still trying to figure out who the Bulls beat that makes them believe that the Bulls could beat any all time great team… let alone the warriors.
Every time MJ faced an all time great team in their prime he got spanked like a newborn.
@@madballer101 the fact jordan never beat Birds Celtics and the only reason he made it to the finals is bc he got old and retired makes him not the goat for me 🤷🏽♂️ the true goat would get through any and everybody, they shouldn’t need luck
Bruh that's bullshit. They had a hard time guarding reggie Miller I doubt they can keep up with steph nobody is locking kd up
Depends man if they can handcheck
I seen Tony Allen make it very hard for kd . And they didn’t have a hard time guarding Reggie 😂😂 and 2016 iman made it VERRY hard for Steph lol Steph is a monster but I’ve seen ppl make it hard for him in the playoffs . No one is saying lol these elite scorers are gonna score less than 20 points lol but it’s wearing them down make them take more shots and harder shots
Reggie career avg is like 18,,go figure...
If you play defence on Steph, he gets shutdown immediately = it’s pretty obvious his game is dependent on weak defensive coverages + taking low-percentage shots guarantees his scoring output is limited = teams always have a concrete strategy to nullify him on the floor in the playoffs
@@DaFactsNoNonsense1713 bullshit. People claim steph is stopped, whole time he got like 22 points lol. That’s stopping him? Ok
Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf shot bullet holes through the '96 Bulls' defense. One of that Bulls team's known weaknesses was the inability to defend scoring point guards and Jordan has always been bad at defending 3-point shooters. Steph Curry is a scoring champ point guard and part of the best 3-point shooting backcourt of all time. So it's already a match made in Hell for the Bulls. And we haven't even gotten to KD yet...
They played them twice that season. Stop acting like Mahmoud played in their conference.
warriors in 5
@@mostmost1 Matt Chapman gave them buckets too. People aren’t running around guarding Klay and curry. The two best shooters of all time. And that’s before you throw in top 10 of all time KD. Iggy off the bench that team was loaded and the best of all time imo.
That’s not a slight though…Mahmoud was THAT DUDE!!! He made it rain on everybody….the Tourette’s and him getting black balled is why is his career isn’t remembered like it should…
@@mostmost1 I see the point flew over your noggin.
Rodman was able to guard perimeter too not as much in Bulls days as he was older but he still could defend. He didn’t use grabbing and holding all the time. There’s really not much difference between him and Draymond. Draymond a better passer but Rodman had a very high IQ and could pass as well. He’d grab all the rebounds. He wouldn’t be unplayable that doesn’t make sense.
Draymond still has a fantastic ability to switch onto guards and contain the drive. Rodman in his bulls era didn't have to face that often. The main problem is he is almost zero offensive threat, which means you would have to play 4v5 on offense or completely rework your offensive system to accommodate him. And you cant just iso MJ all game as we no longer have illegal defense.
@@justinlevy274 I agree Rodman offensively not as good however like Draymond he was a really smart player and good passer. As skilled as Draymond is, I view him as a system player of sorts. I do agree though that Bulls Rodman was maybe the weakest Rodman out of Pistons, Spurs, Bulls just for the fact that in his Piston days he was younger. The way he was able to play at the advanced ages that he was later in Chicago was pretty remarkable. Was 35 when they won in '96.
@@jkc8552 Draymond really benefitted from having two of the best shooters/ off the ball movers in history which really highlighted his strengths and mitigated his weaknesses. I think prime Rodman could replace Draymond and after a season of adjustment would be about the same.
@@justinlevy274 agreed
Who was Bulls Rodman guarding on the perimeter?
“Put a body on steph” “Put him on the floor” 🤦🏾♂️ I swear a lot of mfs have this misconception that this generation soft it’s just the officiating. Steph is still a grown ass man😂 wtf is he gonna do sit there and cry if he falls on the floor??💀 Warriors in the bonus 4 min into the game? Doesn’t sound like winning basketball to me🤦🏾♂️🤷🏽♂️
6’6 Draymond stopping MJ at the rim ? 😂
Read my comment never mentioned those two
In the 90's, Aries is right, especially in the playoffs. Delebedova already showed that physical defense on Steph slows him, and Dele ain't nowhere near the defender of any of the Bulls starters. Today though? Nobody's getting touched up like that without the defender getting a flagrant/tech and ejected at some point. That said, a hard foul here or there still makes you have 2nd thoughts about what you do.
@@gumballwaterson1957 Dele only had 2 games where he gave Steph trouble. THe rest of the series he got torched by Steph
@@SickoRed72 He averaged 26 on 4% worse shooting than his regular season numbers and only got above 30 in one game. Your definition of "torched" is way more lenient than mine. Dele slowed Steph for the series as in it was expected that Steph would be more offensively dominant, and he wasn't. I picked that series as an example, but there are plenty of others that have physical on ball defenders clearly disrupting what's expected from Steph. Olympics/World Championships/Cup also have plenty of evidence to back that up due to the rule differences all more contact out on the perimeter. Physical defense has been clearly shown to affect Steph negatively and the 90s top teams had no shortage of physicality...especially in the playoffs. Doesn't mean he'd get shut down, but plenty of evidence points to him being slowed.
“Ron Harper’s gonna be a problem” 😭😭
yes he waa lock 🔒 down defender
6’0 Fred VanVleet 😉
@@HomoErectus311 had 40+ on his head
They are really idiots for saying bulls win over warriors
@@balsanicovic5012 Why? You are blinded by Recency bias.
You forget that Rodman wasn't just a big man defender. He was a defender by choice. He was athletic enough to score more I'm sure.
Maybe, but at 6’7 210lbs with a limited offensive skill set. I doubt it.
Nah rod man is clumsy with the nut
Worm was a great passer inside that triangle offense
naaaa that dude averaged 1.5 points per game
@@miyurr rodman was a prolific scorer in college avg 27ppg, he just picked the defensive side.
I don't agree with Gil on the Rodman take. Dennis was VERY athletic, had excellent feet and could easily guard all 5 positions in todays game. Not to mention his basketball IQ was elite. Dennis could do what he did in any era!
Lol rodman cant even guard bird with a back injury, he just good in post defense.
Jordan, Pippen, & Rodman were the number 1,2, & 3 defenders in the years they played together. Calling Rodman's play "wrestlemania" is just referring to his boxing out during loose balls, but ignoring Rodman's defense it like ignoring Pippen's passing.
"Can't even guard bird"... just stop right there.
17 Warriors will win the match up, also don't act like Warriors is an iso heavy team. They know when to pass, they play great defense, they have lot of firepower. NO ONE WILL STOP ANYONE.
😂😂😂😂😂
U must be smoking that ice huh but most definitely wrong ain't nobody beating bulls 💯
@@kennethyarbrough3101 he a young dude who wasn't alive when the bulls played
@@ryandavis6245 I swear these young kids today don't have no clue and I don't believe kd doing shit with pip and plus u got Ron harper and mj these kids are crazy frfr
@@kennethyarbrough3101 I was go say, you could put Ron Harper,MJ, Scottie and Dennis on Steph, Klay and KD and they go have problems.
dude that red cap is delusional. Just imagine everyone on the bulls team find out the splash brothers and kd can pull up from almost half court. Warriors are gonna abuse Bulls big men in pick n roll situations to drive and kick out 3 with steph insane offball catch n shoot. It is going to be too much of a shock for bulls.
Fax mfs don't understand just kd alone pulling up anywhere and curry shooting half court that's literally a headache for mfs
That’s Aries spears! Have some respect smh
warriors have an advanced version of the triangle
Man factz they tripping the warriors wit KD is a nightmare for the 90s shit draymond might average a triple double
@Miller City wt 30 nd under supposed to mean u right we wrong cause we gt ways to watch classic games nd save the u had to be there shit cause unless u was playing in the games it makes no difference we watch the same teams 💯
Bulls struggled against Reggies off ball movement. I remember Ron Harper getting abused by Reggie that season. Your going to have him guarding Steph the upgraded version? I’m taking the warriors. The warriors will find it easier to adapt defensively to the bulls cause they are playing from the 3P line in. The Bulls have to come out of their comfort zone and defend shooters who make 30 ft 3 pointers with the same precision as Jordan’s fade away.
Literally this.
You're forgetting 1 major point. The Pacers had Mark Jackson to set the table for Reggie to run off all those screens. Who sets up the offense if Steph isn't? Klay is a decent ball handler but if he's harassed at the point that would clog that style.
@@mauricewells7838 I’m a little confused by this. The warriors have never relied on one central ball handler to ‘set up the table’. ‘Traditional PG’s’ are not necessary for Kerr’s style of open ball movement. If Klay’s being harassed he passes. The ball will keep moving till the defense leaves someone open. Plus the 2017 warriors were much better as a unit moving the ball and setting screens than the 96 pacers.
Huh 😂😂😂😂😂😂 they are on and off the ball defenders, what comfort zone are you talking about, didn't you see how Scottie Pippen guard Magic, they won't let you breathe Son
@@Julems Yeah Pippen is the only one outside of the arc in that play. If he gives as much room at the nba logo as he gave magic then Curry can fire off a shot no worries. Still who’s he gaurding from half court? steph? KD? Klay? The bulls usually had one guy pick up the ball handler at mid court and the rest are set to defend the interior. Occasionally you’d get Jordan and Pippen picking up mid court, but that was rare and still you’ve got a severe mismatch on the perimeter. Having 3 guys on defense beyond the Arc at any time isn’t something the bulls did.
Right at the end they both said "the head game" . I started dying laughing 😂😂
You think that threw you off 😭4:16
@@tapone6621 I down with playing basketball but im cool on the "head games" 😂
Harper stop curry stop it. None of then cud guard Iverson in 96"
Jerry gave buckets so imagine what klay would've done.
KD would be something bulls never seen before
Didn’t Fred VanVleet give the Warriors Buckets ? 🌝
@@NothingElseMattersJM injured warriors team. If KD don’t go down they 3peat the world knows this. People just chose to play dumb.
@@NothingElseMattersJM who did they have only Steph ?
Please KD can’t win anything in AKC with three superstars and you fanboys treating him like he is something nobody have seen.
Iverson got free off the dribble and is a better driver then steph, while also very tough which makes a diff if its 90s rules.
Steph is becoming the most underrated player of all time it’s like players who are 40 and older don’t like seeing the players they grew up on get knocked off the all time list… crazy how quick they forgot what curry was doing to the league both his mvp seasons!!
He’s actually the most overrated all time
@@mannyneva1760 you a casual
Naw they just know that Steph can’t guard no one. Steph is the greatest shooter ever but he not underated he get his jay dues
@@stylescasino1006 and he’ll just have to worry about guarding Steve kerr. Plus Steph isn’t even that bad of a defender. He’s at least there, he mostly gets scored on due to size at that point but warriors have plenty and I mean PLENTY of people to guard Michael Jordan, since that’s really the only person they have to worry about. That bulls team really wasn’t that deep offensively. That’s why they struggle to score 100 in that era.
@@stylescasino1006 greatest shooter is one aspect of dozens…Steph overrated all time
Lesser teams took the Bulls to 7 games in the NBA Finals.... so you mean to tell me that the Warriors just get completely swept?!? Nah. And this is coming from a fan of both dynasties.
Bulls never went to 7 games in the finals
Gilbert says the players back in the day couldn't adapt but they played at the Rucker too. So they could play an open game just not with the NBA coaches. Most of the time those players got benched.
People sleep on Harper….but….at 2:45 is when Spears lost his ever living mind.
Facts. He’s wilding
Yea he is lol
3’s beat 2’s and you had 3 players over 40%. The Bulls would have problems just off the offense GS ran constant movement, not on ball dominant player. So yea let’s say MJ Avgs 40. It’s not gonna offset KD’s 35, Steph’s 28-31 and Klays 20-25. Chicago just wouldn’t have enough offense to keep up
You nerds need to stop counting stats.
They say don’t look at the stats but let’s look at names….. who is bill willington. Who is Luk longley? What’s John salley gonna do?!
@@sleepyboient same thing draymond green/looney/mccaw do
Ok so Ron Harper on Steph curry pippen on kd Mj on klay Where tf is gsw scoring and bulls can switch
@@kobeisthegoat332 Ron Harper Jordan and pippen have never in their life guarded anyone like kd and curry. Maybe you can compare Reggie to klay but even that is a stretch due to the number and range of threes klay is willing to take.
I love how guys say, "I'll give them one maybe two games..." - Utah, Seattle, Phoenix... these guys act like Chicago won every series 4-0, 4-1 and by 20 every game.
They're assuming the Warriors will limit their offense to operating in the small box the Bulls operate in. Bothe the Bulls offense & defense operates between the top of the key and the baseline under the basket. Look up the series with the Jazz and you see, at most, one person, on defense, out by the 3-pts line, while everyone else is stuff into the small box I outlined above. Also, every player on both the Bulls & Jazz are static, motionless... that's just the way they played back in those days. The Warriors spreads the floor, unlike any other team in the league, and the bull’s players will be dead tired after the 1st quarter. There isn’t much scoring with MJ on the bench. Also, the Bulls had many games where they only scores 78-80pts per game. The Warriors can score that by the 3d quarter. It will be a blow out for the Warriors, they will SWEEP the Bulls with NO game within 20pts. And if they played 10 straight finals, the Warriors will SWEEP every series with some of the games by 30pts deficit.
To Jordan delusionist this looks criminal but to people like me I can agree. Maybe won't be big blowouts like 20 or 30 points but I definitely see the Warriors winning easily.
@@mackchris1390 - Some of it was meant to agitate those guys in love with a particular team or player. Hoping they will become Sport fans and see the sports for how much they improve yearly. Just about everything gets better over time. That includes the athletes. When I was a young man back in the 60s, a baseball pitchers dream was to have an 88mph fast-ball. Today, pitchers are hovering around 100mph fast-ball. If I'm not mistaken, some guy recently hit 106mph with his fast-ball... that's insane! But, it's evidence of how athletes get better over time. No different in basketball… the teams and players are much better, as a result of modernize training equipment and training regiments. Back in the early days, scorers pretty much were limited to a Shooting Guard, maybe of the Forwards or a tall Center that could easily score around the basket. Today, teams usually have 3-to-4 guys that can shoot fairly well from different spots on the floor and can make a good percentage of their 3-pts shots. So, it really isn’t fair to compare teams of the earlier years against current teams.
To say the bulls beat the warriors is totally cool and could very well be the case, but to say that all those teams (Bird Celtics, My pistons bad boys) beat them easy is pretty crazy
How you so sure.. Celtics played defense and they had Bird... Warriors not beating 80s Celtics easily.. Those Celtics teams had shooters as well and played DEFENSE..real defense.. lol
@@macanthony1982 yeah, some of them might’ve won, but penny and shaq magic? No chance, golden state in 4
@@Kaustic26 yea.. now that one.. i wholeheartedly agree.. lol..
@@macanthony1982 bruh the warriors for real have 2 of the best scorers ever.. not saying they’re the 2 best ever but nobody locking up kd for sure
@@reebokdurag6676 nevet said the Warriors wont win but you cant sit here and say 80s Celtics will get dominated.. lol.. 80s Celtics had shooters and the whole team played defense.. real defense.. lol
Nobody from those eras faced fast past advanced skilled teams where bigs can even score from outside💀 where guards are not just turning their back and posting up at the 3pt line and 2 guards are not able to frl put the ball on the floor. Say u put pip on kd and mj on curry who tf finna stop klay and will the bulls bigs be able to show on pnr when curry coming off screens nd sht with spacing? Old head talk aint it that warriors team is a top 3 most talented team ever period and they would compete for a 7 game series win or 6
First off, the Warriors bigs couldnt shoot. Yall be making up shit. Second Klay cant create nothing. More cap. The offense and ball movement gets him open, VERY much how the Bulls worked.
You dont put MJ on Curry. Not exclusively. Yall be fuckin killing me. 1st off the Bulls had 6'6 Jordan, super athlete, Pippen 6'7, wingspan long, Super athlete. Rodman, about 6'8, Super athlete, Ron Harper 6'6- 6'7 huge wingspan. The Bulls lowkey were one of the 1st teams capable of switching everything. They didnt have many matchup disadvantages. Second, with Kukoc, possibly one of the 1st dedicated stretch bigs. Like, that's who Draymond gone have to check. Harper, plus the Bulls collective effort will make it tough for Curry. He ain't Curry, but the Bulls did play against Reggie.....and you might not get this, but Curry ain't that athletic. You see how an athletic squad like the Cavs can bother the
Warriors....
So you This era of bigs is better than the 90s bigs ?
You just cant put either one in a time machine and immediately have them battle in a 7 game series. The present team will have the unfair advantage over the team from 20 yrs ago. The warriors already know the players from the '96 Bulls team. Plus their head coach played under the '96 Bulls team so he knows their system. In addition, the warriors had access to the latest/modern medicine, supplements, strength and conditioning programs, nutrition programs, and state of the art equipments and facilities. On the other hand, the Bulls have no idea who steph, klay, dray and KD are and what their team's offense look like. I'd say let's give the '96 Bulls team atleast six months preparation to study the warriors while gaining access to the science, technology and basketball knowledge of 2017. Then make it two series with a couple of months interval. One series to be played in '96 with old rules and one in 2017 with the new rules.
Man preach like u talking about a team we’re every player giving u atleast 10 everybody a playmaker all three stars can create there own plus shots for others nd klay nd dray gone take the hard d assignments so tht mean steph nd kd basically resting on d pause 💯
Gil forget, Rodman “learned that in Detroit…”, the physical play. Also, no one’s grabbing rebounds, forget his defensive ability. He’ll get in their heads bad, along with how Jordan can play that game too. I also think Ron Harper CANNOT guard Steph. That was post injury Ron Harper so he can’t move with Steph. I think Golden State can do better than 2 games
Golden state the type of
Team to laugh at that shit lol. Klay curry and kd are gonna giggle at how crazy Rodman is lol nobody getting in their head
@@samregier3120 Stockton and Malone weren’t laughing. You also had Jordan and Pippen on the wings, there won’t be anything to laugh at.
@@bblue1555 that wasn’t their personality lol. They got draymond and anything Rodman does kd, steph and klay looking at as corny. Not even a warriors fan at all just a realist lol. If you think that Rodman being weird is gonna make kd have a off game you need to mature
@@samregier3120 Being weird? He does more than color his hair or do sus antics, it includes any physical job on the court that you see Draymond do and then some. Actually a lot stronger than Draymond. While Draymond done a great job on Jokic you had Rodman hold down Shaq.
@@bblue1555 Rodman held down shaq so well they lost that series lol. Sure Rodman played hard, draymond is more skilled he’s a better player. Rodmans antics aren’t getting in any of the warriors heads I can promise you that. It doesn’t phase them.
Definitely his old man kicking in he’s wilding
Rodman was a great athlete and was able to guard perimeter players too.
Physical perimeter players, not skilled agile ones who don't stay still, don't post up and can just straight shoot over him.
@@Ebonyleopard That's your opinion and you have a right to it.
what about prime Celtics mcahle bird chef ect. vs bulls mmm .
@@bryantwware1925 that's a better matchup.
@Tyler Holt ?
For everyone saying the Warriors would sweep the 96' Bulls let me remind you of something. In the Game 1 of the 2017 WCF Kawhi Leonard was killing them in the first half and the Spurs were blowing them out, once he went down with the injury the tides turned. And in 2018 they went to 7 games with the Harden led Rockets. The Warriors were beatable, they just never faced a high IQ team with all time level defense lead by an all time scorer.
Chris Paul said those rocket teams learned how to play against the warriors by using that same defensive strategy against the league. Essentially they practiced for the warriors all year long to get used to it.
I disagree with Gil and the guest today. The bulls have never played against this level of play. Whoever is holding curry is getting worked. From chasing after him thru screens and from guarding him one on one with his range good luck.
Secondly, if mike is holding klay 😂 will be funny due to klay constantly moving as well plus klay is going to actually try and play D on him. Klay would realistically be the best direct competition MJ has ever faced in all of the playoffs (yes I think klay is better than Clyde drexler) and this won’t be a matchup my can tell guard Scottie to guard him for a while cause Pippen will have his hands full against KD. Scottie and MJ are not getting any breaks vs this team
@@itzbreeze9839 You think players didn’t run around off screens back in the day??
@@itzbreeze9839 And if you think Klay is better than Clyde than this conversation is over.
@@Chillboyhaad 😂😂 you’re really trying to downplay the warriors offensive strategy just by trying to comparing what the bulls faced.
They have never faced a team nearly as great as this warriors team. Mj has never faced competition like this in the playoffs a day in his career.
If you want to put Clyde above Klay fine, however that’s your opinion. My not yours is fact. Only fact here is, this will be the most defeNse MJ has ever played on someone for a series.
@@Chillboyhaad agreed . I don’t think those who make statements like these truly understand HOW GREAT THESE 80’s players were. The NBA is a fairly young association. The player the logo is designed after is still ALIVE! Only three H.O.F’s are dead. The league has a long way to go. That said this new generation of players seem EXTREMELY ENTITLED, due in large part to the benefits garnered off the backs of the older heads.
If he thinks Clyde Drexler isn’t on par or vastly superior to Klay who’s only feat to me is being another Step Curry then I understand why you wouldn’t wanna press dude any further Muhammad
This man just said warriors are the most overrated team in NBA history, I can’t believe it. It’s just an old head stuck in the 90s. Warriors ball movement and off ball movement would be to much
Gilbert being nice cause of the guests 🤣🤣 he know DAMN well 2017 warriors smoking them.
Listening to this man talk about the 17-18 warriors and these old ass teams just gave me stage 7 brain cancer, 6 brain aneurysms, and a peice of my brain has melted. The definition of saying anything
No one stops anyone in today’s NBA.
Kawhi strapped up LeBron and he had 25,11,7 in 2013 and 28,7,4 in 2014… KD would do the same.
Why kd not doing it now 🫢🫢😅
The last time I check, 3 pts is better than 2 pts. You can put Klay, Draymond and KD to tire MJ out. Goodluck to Harper fighting through multiple screens chasing Steph. Good luck to MJ chasing Klay out in the 3 pts. If you put Pippen on KD, it's alright, KD still can pull up anywhere he wants, they can't double Steph, KD or Klay but the Warriors can put 2 people on MJ and let Rodman take the shot. If MJ's not holding the ball, then who will be their scorer? Warrior's bench also deeper. Their second unit is also a problem, if MJ sits down, who's gonna score? Can they keep up with Warrior's pace with their 2nd unit?
It would definitely go to a game 7, this is crazy! I swear Gilbert is being polite
These dudes still on Mj balls man these new teams will beat the shit out of any of them teams Aries mentioned
You need to stop talking basketball
@@Chillboyhaad why cuz I'm telling the truth? Go fly a kite my G is levels to the game and them old guys just not in this new level... question how would them old guys defend a euro step? 🤔🤔
@@Money5ettinIt I bet you've never actually watched a game from the 90's lmaooo. Freakin dork.
Facts
@@Money5ettinIt The Same way 6’0’Fred VanVleet and 6’0 Kyle Lowry did lol
It's always a pain to listen an old head talking about any sport, their "era" was always the best no matter the rules or circumstances
Love these conversations!
I love the convo 👌👌👌
In this scenario, I think you have to give the Bulls (or any older team) a chance to adjust. The more modern team already has tape on the older team, has grown up practicing their bball moves, and have the benefit of running their plays or an improved version of them.
Why? Aries said they can beat them off the strength of the talent back then, let them play to that. Why give them preptime, they ain't Batman. Let them play ball as is.
Which three peat team I’m taking the earlier bulls. Probably 93 team
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Rule changes, first off. More specifically, which rules we going by?
@@seasonaldepressioncomics434
Premature post.
Real question i meant to ask is did you want legitimate results or ones with an asterisk next to it?
I remember we thought the GS without KD could beat the 96 Bulls now they worse with him lmao Steph is killing Ron Harper so stop
I wanto lean on on the warriors just off the fact of the way the games evolved and the shooters they have from the 3 pt shot. But in all honesty I think the bulls would win more times then not bc I have a feeling there defense would cause problems and they have the greatest player to ever play and idk I just feel like they would adapt and find a way to win comparing rosters I know it sounds crazy to some ppl but I think the bulls would win more times then not
Warriors all day. They shoot 3s and Mike Jordan can't shoot 3s, HE RUNS IN 10 TIMES to get that 20 points and Golden State Warriors just shoot 10 times from outside and get that 30 points and tell me who wins? The warriors have short players against all the big teams last season but the 3-point shooting confused all other teams and it would have been the same against Michael Jordan's team. Golden state 2016 before 2017 is the best team ever. Humans lie but records don't!
@@gabrielthomas9699Honestly I just suggeste you to watch more MJ tapes and study lol… you will eventually understand if u truly love the game u will eventually understand the craft perfected by the hands of that man. Records don’t lie? What record one win+ with a L by the end of the year losing a 3-1 lead? Cmon son. The things Kyrie did with Curry and Klay should be illegal… imagine if that was Michael Jordan… imagine MJ isolating with Curry on a mid post lol cmonnn shits ridiculous I’m not saying u can’t stop any of these players cause u truly can’t but we know who are the better defenders here AND Michael Jordan is truly the biggest fucking miss match cause nobody can’t fuck guard him on the Warriors he doing whatever he wants. 10/10 3’s??? Curry who’s the greatest shooter of all time only has 40% efficiency on the playoffs
Great offense beats great defense every time and we’re talking about the greatest offense of all time and 3 players on the same team that can give you 60 on any given night
Pippen would lock KD down, Pippen was a hybrid, he played pg, sg, before the nba.. he took the bulls to the conference finals without Jordan… Pippen was complete.. there’s no physical competition… you can’t even go after a rebound.. and that’s why when MJ played the nba was competing with the NFL in ratings and revenue at about 8 million a game, and when he retired it started to fall off, but it really took a turn when LeBron and the Heat inorganically created a HOF team and only won 2 in the Least-Tern conference. Now there making less than half per game and ratings tanked
MJ is getting that ring! All the circumstances don't matter.
MJ would get splashed on so much he’d fake an injury to save himself the embarrassment
BIG FACTZ..🤟🏽💯
Are we forgetting how good that Warriors bench was?
That was my comment. The starting 5 is a toss up over who wins but I see Warriors bench destroying Bulls Bench
@@MastermindRell I could agree with that this series is going 6 or 7 though cause their offense isn’t as good.
Hahahahahaha no. We're not. GS would get swept.
@@taberjohnston1399 your forgetting about Shaun Livingston, Damion Lee, Kevon Looney, and javell McGee. That's an insane bench. And you have Steph Klay KD Draymond and Andre Iguadala to start?
@@paulh3261 nope. I'm not forgetting them at all. I know how they were average at best in a weaker era of talent and rule. They wouldn't have gotten as high as average in the Jordan Era.
I'm 39yrs old. I've witnessed over 3 decades of ball and if I was a prison of the moment I would have a simple mindset like y'all.
The fact that today top talent is averaging in the WEAK era what the guys in the 80's and 90' averaged in the TOUGHEST era ever, proves that today's talent wouldn't be able to handle the 80/90's era.
Dennis was way more than guarding post players he had excellent lateral movement and athleticism he could guard a lot of 3-5 in todays game.
Show proof? James Worthy gave Rodman 36 points and a triple double in a game 7. If Rodman couldn't stop worthy, what is he gonna do to Durant?
@@ImRacistTowardsBlacks ... You put up 1 game and think that supplants other great games Rodman had?
You people are comical.
@@ericjordan6059 Rodman spent his career struggling against MGay, Worthy, and Bird. Older Dennis couldn’t guard the perimeter AT ALL. So how he gonna guard KD
Man. Michael walks on water. I think the memory of Jordan and the 90s has become myth.
Warriors in 6. Bulls would get worn out stamina wise chasing Klay and Steph. Let's use our minds here and not our hearts. Warriors have three players that can give you 25 easy. Bulls have one, Scottie on a good day maybe.
Use logic people come on. See you young cats just spit out random shit. Worn out? 🤣🤔 back then it was NORMAL to play nearly all or ALL 82 games. How many nba stars do that today? Stamina...lol...they played in an era of playing in as many games as possible, and going all out on the court and diving...jumping over and thru people to make layups and dunks etc. As opposed to the soft players today who normally only play about 65-70 games...will only dunk or layup if the lane is WIDE open...NEVER DIVE for anything etc. Stamina...worn out? And you actually said let's use our minds. Get an education about the game, have your thoughts QCd before you decide to pist em k.
In your dreams.
The most important part of the context of this argument is missing, which is under which rules are they playing. I think that under 90's rules the Bulls could pose a greater challenge than with modern rules, but in the end I don't see how the Bulls would be able to match the Warrior's 3 point shooting volume while also providing a solution to all the constant double teams that MJ will get, in which Rodman becomes a liability on offense.
If Chris Paul and James Harden can take the Warriors to 7 games WITH KD I can't see them winning 3 games against the Bulls if we're being honest
@@JrClips27 In that case who did those Bulls face that make you think they could beat either one of those teams 🤣😂
@@JrClips27 I get what you are saying. So how do you think the 96 Bulls would address the 3 point shooting volume disparity against either team?
@@arfoe he not gonna answer he probably older than that bulls team talking about cp3 rockets that rockets team would bust they ass
@@mikeruck2888 the jazz with Stockton and malone twice lol.
I’m disappointed in Gilbert on this one and I’m sure he doesn’t believe what he’s saying…
The bulls scored 90 points in games…
THEY CANT SCORE!!! Mike scores 40 no one else scores more than 10
The warriors would score 110 on a bad night
I'd loved to see Gilbert D up on Bird and Bird EASILY drop 45 on him every night since he thinks Bird is old slow and can't play basketball
I'd switch Rodman and Pippen on KD throughout the series.
Pippen on Steph
Harper on Klay
Dennis on KD
Jordan on Draymond
Let Jordan guard Draymond so he can drop 45 a game
@@purduewalker KD matching that 45 against Dennis, stop it.
@@purduewalker He ain’t gon drop 45 a game when they throw Iggy, Klay, Shaun Livingston and Draymond on his ass. MJ was really the only threat offensively. Warriors just have too much offensive fire power, from the starting lineup to the bench
This is a crazy. Gil how didn’t u say anything about the bench and how the bulls had no answer for iggy, Livingston, or javell McGee? Steve Kerr, john salley?! Neither could enter the game without giving up 17 points to a warriors system that didn’t play inside out. Don’t get me started on their center who can’t switch onto any guards…. It’s no way the bulls win the series!
Toni Kukoc???
@@vincecarter2674 you made my point for me. The man avg. 27+ mins a game. He played for 20+ mins each game & Ron Harper (whom is some how gonna chase Steph around) was on the bench…. And whom/what was Toni gonna do?
@@sleepyboient Steph and Klay are shuting dawn by delavedova and Shumpert. Kukoc will have much bigger role in a offense style of game,with much more shooting,actions for him,his long step and passing ability. You cant know how this game would be until you see. And we never see this.
@@vincecarter2674 sir I watched these games. Google how many pts those bulls avg in that finals. Look at the pace. Matter fact look at the what “illegal defense” is. Annnnnnd why the triangle didn’t work in NY. You think Toni being a mini scotti would help the down pour of points during bench time. The warriors don’t play one on one basketball. Ever. Your rebounder Dennis would be guarding draymond at the 3pt line. Not rebounding.
@@sleepyboient so you dont know what adaptation to different style of game is. When Bulls faced Don Nelson run and gun Wariors with Run TMC,marculionis,ellie and others,they adapt to they style and put 118+ points. Toni Kukoc would be 3point shooter in todays game,and the passer and everything else. Dennis Rodman guard Michael Jordan,Pippen,Wilkins,Bird....everyone. In a podcast with JJ Redick...Kevin Durant says "its wayy easier to score today" in a comparasion with his years in OKC before game changing. And i dont know what the hell you saying about 1v1 basketball...double teams and triple teams was played all the time. Zone defense and "double teams" are not the same thing. Zone defense is a formation in manny different ways. You want a videos of double,triple teams?
These old heads drunk. Jordan is literally the only elite scorer on the bulls. Jordan is the goat and would do his thing regardless, but the rest of the bulls offense lags light years behind modern offenses. Scottie pippen’s shot creating was mediocre and his efficiency routinely plummeted in the playoffs. The bulls had great defense but klay, draymond, Steph, and Durant are unguardable. These boys talking bout “we gon put a body on him.” No you’re going to foul out, and you’re going to see the other team hoisting the trophy at the end of the series.
Interesting how the Boston proved KD is still human by employing 90’s/early 2000’s type defense.
And for sure, the big 3 of the Bulls are better at defense than this Boston team that just swept KD.
And this Boston team doesn’t even have the scoring power MJ has.
So, no. Pip and Jordan can definitely give KD problems.
Well that was KD without steph or Klay, and Ime's defensive schemes were filled with tons of modern concepts/
EXACTLY! All the Celtics did was get physical with him and it disrupted his WHOOOOLE game.
Kd didn’t have any help also
@@ssj-rose4572
Not having help wouldn’t mean you’d suck ass.
MJ had his numbers even before he had help.
LeBron always had his during his 1st run with the Cavs
Not having help only means you’ll be left alone to carry a team. Of course, that’d mean that you’ll less likely to win.
@@ssj-rose4572 In game 1 i would say Kyrie carried them and KD didn't help KD played terrible all of those games wasnt that he didn't have help they locked that man up and if you believe the bulls couldn't do that idk what to tell you
After years of watching and studying this game, I've come to realize your mental state is very important. While KD can score, helacks that mental. Those Bulls would really give him problems. As for Jordan, what can I say? He is the difference maker ALLTIME!!
Listen bro, your statement is very true. Mental determines EVERYTHING!! As we watch KD, while he is skilled...he is super weak in mindset. JORDAN would absolutely destroy them.
Warriors would win that series in 6. Stop it. The Bulls played 4 on 5 when they were on offense as Rodman literally didnt score. was not a threat to score so Draymond and Klay (best perimeter defenders on GS) would be defending MJ and Pippen who both would need to defend a scorer on defense. Please GS would wear the bulls out. Bulls best chance to win is to put Tony Kukoc in starting lineup but then they lose defense. no one from GS needs to come off the floor. GS wins.
Don't forget Mike would rest occasionally on defense. People who don't believe me, search the 1998 NBA finals game 6 on TH-cam. You can clearly see him putting less effort on defense and even the announcers, one of which is Isiah Thomas, point out that Mike is resting on defense to make up for it on offense.
5 games
@@user-fo1nk3pd1t can’t rest on D when you have to defend either KD, Curry, or Klay! Sooooo 🤷♂️
It would be Jordan guarding Steph from half court not Harper. Mike would take that as a personal challenge. I also think he’d be worn out by game 3 chasing Steph around. Harper would be barbecue chicken guarding Steph with his handle and range.
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HAHA....NO! GS has no one to guard Jordan....NOBODY!!!!!!....and Pippen is better than Durant. If you put Jordan (Defensive player of the year multiple times) on Steph he's not making his average.....put Steph on Jordan and Jordan has 45 a night EASILY!!! GS was good, but not as talented or tough as the Bulls....plus, the Bulls have Jordan...Game Over!
@@brianvigna9616 pippen is nowhere near Kevin Durant
@@brianvigna9616 and KD is a great 1 on 1 defender
No. Jordan didn’t guard the small pg (and tougher defensive assignment). That was Harper’s Job.
Phil would have rodman on KD, Ron Harper on Klay, Scottie on Steph, and with MJ on Draymond. MJ being on Draymond will would then have more energy to destroy the warriors defense. If the 2018 rockets gave them that much trouble with harden, there's no way the warriors is stopping MJ.
Didnt the bulls lose 2 games to the sonics
@@randygoku4055 Yeah, true but after taking a 3-0 lead. Series was over, Sonics just got a couple wins in after falling into that hole.
The style matched with the tickets they was bombing threees
2018 rockets had CP3, Harden, an entire team of good 3D guy and they were a team made exactly to counter and beat the warriors. Bulls need 7 games to beat Indiana…
@@matteoughetti1320 mfs thinking with they heart not logic that’s all this shyt is
Y’all forgetting how many Bills players that would foul out in the games, lol
People forget how smart Dennis Rodman is he definitely will be able to adapt
Rodman was avg 16 rebs a game against Shaq's Magic, imagine him against Draymond and the midget Warriors.... Rodman gonna get 10 off rebs a game easy💀
“That’s techs 2 techs gtf out”😂😂
Its difficult to dissect the matchup based on individual skills of the players. What they don’t talk about are offensive schemes of each team. The Bulls run a triangle offense with MJ as the focal point. It allows MJ to either finish at the basket or pull-up a midrange. The Warriors run a double Triangle with Green at point top of the key and double pin downs on left or right to free up a shooter on the 3 pt line or the screener slips to the basket for an easy 2. Its not that the Bulls are not an elite defensive team, its the type of defense required to keep the Warriors from shooting 3s and still guard the rim.
They could do it. Easily
This debate all boils down to which nba rules.
Either way jordan destroys
@@NwoFresh nope
It really doesn’t boil down to that at all. If we really wanna go there the 96 rules saw the 3 point line being a foot inside where it is now. Curry is abusing that shit to the fullest. I think in 2017 he even shot 90% from the corner 😂😂
Not a big difference. Jordan was still going to the ft line a lot in 96.
@@NwoFresh Yep
Tony Kukoc is a slept on assassin. He was the European KD
They ain’t even speaking on THEY (Golden states)COACH STEVE KERR either. The sheer ignorance of the Bulls depth is astonishingly bypassed.
MF was not even close to KD. Dude never made all-nba. Aka, never top 15 player in the league…. KD was top 5 in the league for a decade…
@@storminmormn6283 I can tell u not old enough to have watched both play. Best way to describe TK is imagine if KD played with Steph and Klay for the majority of his career. He gonna put up numbers but it's still Steph's team
@@sheldoncelestine6564 warriors literally had a finals mvp coming off the bench
Steve Kerr wouldn’t survive on the court, he would have to hold klay or steph q😂
If I'm Phil, I'll put Rodman against Steph, Scottie on KD, MJ on Klay, Harper on Draymond, and whoever the hell on the center.
Mmmm Rodman on Steph would cause problems for him
He got sweaty n quite real quick 🤣 thank you gill. 🤣
GS beats Bulls - its really weird that Gil has this take. REALLY WEIRD
Omg I can't take those guys😂 2016-17 GSW losing to bulls? Stop it
Fred Vanvleet has entered the chat 👀
@@HomoErectus311 vanvleet didn't make it in the finals in 2016-17
@@adamraboris8551 Right. That was the year Zaza Pachulia was their starting center for the year lol.
Question was Ron Harper guarding shifty guards that can score off the dribble, quick first step, unlimited range, and can shoot anywhere on the floor? No Curry is torching him
Question 2, was Scottie ever guarding a shifty 7 footers that can shoot off the dribble and shoot anywhere on the court especially with their length? No KD is still dropping 25 on his dome atleast
Question 3, Can the bulls keep up with this team that runs around the floor setting on and off ball screens and the second their shooters get one inch of room off those screens the ball is in the net? Doubt it
Jordan is great but the 90s meat riding has got to stop, 7 games series
Dray, Klay, Steph, KD and Iggy VS Jordan, Pip, Dennis, Harper and Kukoc.
Honestly if it was in an iso heavy era Bulls have the upper hand. But can the Bulls keep up with the ball movement and unlimited range of the Dubs. Bulls have never played any team who you need to guard after crossing half court. The Bulls were not a great 3 point shooting team. Also remember teams can play zone and test your 3s.
GS in 6 y’all crazy
2001 Lakers sweep Wariors facts..
@Miller City I can and will. GS in 6. Jordan is Jordan sure, but KD, Klay and Steph are marksman. Jordan is great and possibly the greatest depending on whom you ask but Warriors play such amazing team basketball their is a reason they went 73-9 👀. And yes before you assume idk yes the bulls went 72-10 with a title and all that I’m aware but I’m giving it to the warriors. Notice how I didn’t say I blowout either. I know who they are playing against
@@bobbydigital3421 2000s Lakers with Kobe and Shaq oh DEFINETLY!! But I wouldn’t say sweep. They’d could get it done maybe in 6 borderlining on 7 maybe but Lakers got that
@Miller City and I’m not 12😂!! I did watch 90s bulls games, I grew up watching Kobe and the Lakers etc. Kobe is my favorite for personal reasons. But logically speaking Jordan has to be the greatest so I don’t say GS IN 6 just cause
@@bobbydigital3421 get off the drugs
For him to say the most overrated team ever just goes to show you he a hater that team was a freaking Cheat Code
The fact that it was a cheat code makes it over rated especially with the way the game is played now
@@ceo469 bro it don't matter how the game is played. In any era that team would be a cheat code
If KD is your x-factor, Warriors getting swept based on what we saw in the 1st round this year. Warriors would need a lot of that off the ball movement that's so underrated.
They not talking about this year are they
steph and klay are the x factors remember reggie miller force that bulls to 7 games with lower shooting attempts than klay in that yr pachullia was also playing and everyone know what he did to kawhi so he can be like a laimber in the def and the adv of that GSW team is that everyone except pachullia can carry the ball unlike that pacers team which mark jackson was the only guy can cross the half court without the ball being stolen from them
16 Warriors were the 95 Bulls of their time. If you make one play the other in their era they'll win. That's really what it comes down to. Rodman let loose to play how the game was played then would shut down that whole roster. Jordan would maul Thompson in either era honestly and Curry would smoke Harper in either era. After that its relative.
Yeah but Curry struggles anytime a good defender is locked on him. Look how he shot last game.
@@actionjackson8689 he avg 32 vs celtics who the best 1v1 defenders
Ron harper is a bum compared to those
@@halyup No he's not lol. He would lockdown anyone on the Warriors. The Celtics are choke artists, they always find a way to fail. Nothing special about this ring. Curry played next level but against today's best defenders. They would all be a joke in the 90s, especially flop artist Smart. What a joke of an era when this man won Dpoy 🤣
The Dubs would beat the 96 bulls easy. Bulls might get a game or two only if Jordan scores 50+. People sleep on how good the warriors were defensively and overrate the bulls in comparison to modern teams. It’s no way the bulls can guard steph, klay, and kd. The offense is way too exotic and the bulls would struggle playing against a zone defense
@Miller City you know Jordan never played against a zone either… said himself he wouldn’t have had the same career if he did. They definitely aren’t beating the warriors scoring 85 points lol
@@Wesj1894 mj played college ball so he play vs a zone and the triangle offense will kill zone. 90s players move the ball around they don't just dribble for nothing. Rodman doesn't have to go against a real big and the warriors shoots alot of 3s so there's gonna be alot of rebounds for rodman.
You just cant put either one in a time machine and immediately have them battle in a 7 game series. The present team will have the unfair advantage over the team from 20 yrs ago. The warriors already know the players from the '96 Bulls team. Plus their head coach played under the '96 Bulls team so he knows their system. In addition, the warriors had access to the latest/modern medicine, supplements, strength and conditioning programs, nutrition programs, and state of the art equipments and facilities. On the other hand, the Bulls have no idea who steph, klay, dray and KD are and what their team's offense look like. I'd say let's give the '96 Bulls team atleast six months preparation to study the warriors while gaining access to the science, technology and basketball knowledge of 2017. Then make it two series with a couple of months interval. One series to be played in '96 with old rules and one in 2017 with the new rules.
@@drue1209 you’re not comparing 80s college ball to modern nba are you? I’d say the talent is definitely different. It’s a reason why no one runs that triangle nowadays. The dubs are great at playing the passing lanes and the bulls aren’t gonna punish them from deep. Rodman will have to play out on the perimeter, which isn’t his strong suit so he likely won’t be as effective as a rebounder. They will kill him in pick n roll/pop situations
@@peterstark4562 that’s exactly my point. Modern teams are killing 90s teams but that doesn’t mean 90s teams are bad, the game is just different. We can’t start saying if they could have this and that, we have to take them both as they are and if we do that, it’s the warriors easy. Personally I think they’re are quite a few modern teams that would beat them but no one’s ready for that convo
*If Curry gets up after keep getting knocked down, he's a problem in any Era. Harper, Jordan, Scottie are all 6'5 or better and wiry strong, throw in a Kukoc, that's a problem*
If Mugsy Bogues and Spudd Webb did it I’m sure Curry would be fine
@@omaidolor8929 Exactly
Man talking like the greatest shooter of all time ain’t on the warriors lmfao 😂 Top 5 handles, pull up from anywhere, don’t stay still, will have the whole team tired, pulling a double team cause he dropping 20 in the third quarter
Dennis Rodman was a skilled defender against more than just post players. He was a great perimeter and on-ball defender and that was very evident when he was in Detroit especially.
I think that Bulls teM is the best ever...But they're forgetting about spacimg & that trey ball. Steph & KD are a nightmare tandem. & who's gonna put up numbers besides Mike for the bulls? GSW is gonna fill it up whenever they go ona run. This matchup goes 6-7 games IMO.
No it’s not bruh
The rockets took them 7
in 5 to me
@@NwoFresh the jazz took the bulls to 6 and i know damn the warriors better than them 🤣
@@wills.9422 The clippers with Lou Williams took them 6 lol
@@NwoFresh Pacers and Knicks took Bulls 7
I'm an old head, but that Warriors team would beat the Bulls. They had 3 dudes that could drop 50 in a heavy passing offense. Those Bulls teams ain't seen the types of crossovers and eurosteps they have today.
But u realize there premier defenders so they would adapt
@@nicoli-thenextup9866 in one game? Nah. Just think about how Iverson crossed Jordan and how much better people handle the ball today. He'd have to deal with those types of crossovers all game. Plus there were no PGs shooting 3s from the logo. They were primarily offense initiators.
The Bulls triangle offense is the best counter for the Warriors ball movement
@@csc4781 the triangle defense is dead, that wont work in todays playstyle. That it is not used anymore, you know nothing.
Shaq calls today's NBA, the Cupcake League one Alonzo Mourning elbow to the head or a midair collision with Laimbeer or a close line by McHale and the Warriors are DONE!!!
Celtics proved Jordan rules works on KD,
Bulls sweep Warriors
People gotta remember. Chicago is probably one of only 3 teams in history who arguably had 3 perimeter players Mike, Harper, and Pippin that is all time great defenders and when you add I Rodman we're talking about 4 players all time greats. That bulls tram was crazy.
4 premier defenders
Depends on if we talking in the Finals or a regular season game. In a regular seaosn game I got the Warriors. In a 7 game series defense wins championships. Draymond the only one playing defense. KD is ok on defense but not all team defense level. Id put Harper on Curry. Jordan on Klay, Scottie on KD, Rodman on Draymond. Draymond the only guy I can see getting clutch stops against that Bulls team but it wouldn’t be enough, he’d have to run the whole court in a 7 game series. He’d be exhausted by game 5 at least. Also Phil Jackson is easily outcoaching Steve Kerr, I will have no debate about this part.
Kevin was a defensive player of the year candidate at one point when on the warriors until steph went down requiring him to focus more on the offensive load nightly. He was great defensively.
Steve Kerr took a middling warriors offense and turned it into a juggernaut there’s something he has that mark Jackson DIDNT
They’re gonna put Iggy on Mike
If Reggie Miller has enough gas to take Jordan to 7, Golden State has way more than enough to win the series. Everyone is on that handcheck shit but I'm wondering that shortened 3 pointer plays a factor. there's also the reggie rule that isn't outlawed yet where you can kick the leg out on a shot and it's a defensive foul.
Didn’t the clippers with 0 all stars take the warriors 6 games ? Lol
@@HomoErectus311 didn't they have 6 players in double figures?
The Warriors wouldn’t beat none of the old teams not even the old bird Celtics bro get him off the podcast please🥴🥴🥴‼️‼️💯💯💯😂😂😂 NONSENSE!
Exactly 😂
@@isaiahbrown7925 🥷🏿 just saying shit 😂😂😂💯
@Saph Adams that’s that old head talk it was barely ten people who could jump from the freethrows line back then today there’s 12 years old doing it
Wtf bro so pippen, Rodman and Jordan was just locking everyone up in the 90s nobody was getting buckets on them Lmfaoo like old heads act like these guys were beating teams by 100 points every game. No team in the 90s is as talented offensively as the warriors. People keep thinking basketball is a one on one game when in fact it’s a team sport so you can set screens, move off the ball, set up plays like you telling me 2 guys who can create for themselves on the bulls can beat a team with 3 guys that can do that plus a bench with some of the smartest iq basketball players. Yea aight whatever
Bro to think there’s no illegal defense and they never seen the handles that klay,steph, and kd have. They would be getting crossed out there socks bro😭