The emperor sent House Atreides to Arrakis to die, so it's only fitting that their arrival should be announced with the sound of bagpipes. It's essentially an epic funeral procession.
Didn't even think about the funeral angle on the bagpipes, my initial assumption was that it had to do with some sort of ancestral tradition for the house, my mind went to ancient Celtic rites for whatever reason. Announcing their death upon arrival is truly epic and makes that scene so much better lol - Caley
A lot of the human cultures harken back to the old civilizations on Earth, where the humans of the Dune universe originated from. Atreides is a Greek-derived name, Harkonnen a Finnish-derived name. Dr. Yueh and Paul speak Mandarin. The bagpipes alludes to the Scottish influence, and Paul even makes reference to his grandfather engaging in Spanish bullfighting, which is why there is so much bull symbolism in the Atreides manor. In part 2, there is an arena scene that is modeled after a Spanish bullfight, with both matador and picadors. And the whole story is an allegory over the clash of civilizations, colonialism, and resource extraction in the Middle East. A geopolitical tale on an epic, futuristic scale.
All the characters are descended and evolved from Earth humans. Different groups of humans have formed into specialty schools: the Bene Gesserit sisterhood have mastered physical and physiological manipulation, the Mentats (the character Thufir Hawat who rolled his eyes back doing the calculations) have honed mental skills and act as human computers (in this universe, artificial intelligence is banned after machines had overthrown human rule and enslaved humans, only to be conquered by a human uprising), and Duncan trained with the Ginaz, who are the sword masters of the universe. Duncan himself is reputed to be one of the finest sword fighters in the Imperium, which is why the Harkonnes soldiers backed off. Because of the shields, fast projectile weapons are somewhat useless, which is why hand-to-hand combat is still a major form of fighting.
Minor Spoiler Alert . He is no Messiah, Messiahs are archetypically peaceful, he is a fighter hero, distorting the myth the bene gesserit primed in arrakis to his own advantage, the sisterhood did not count on the individuality and personal choices of the Kwisatz Haderach, but above all that, was the Lady Jessica's Disobedience on Birthing a man, teaching him Bene Gesserit skills, Duncan training him in swordfighting, gourney in tactics and - in the book - Thufir teaching him Mentat Skills. He is basically a super human with the most "biopotential" of all humans that the schools of humankind develops after the butlerian jihad.
It broke my heart to see Gabriella feeling so self-conscious and self-critical. The biggest reactors I've seen aren't dropping wisdom or intellectual analysis all the time, so I wish she didn't feel such pressure to do more, or say the right thing, or be anything other than her natural self. Her personality is just as charming to me as reactors like Popcorn in Bed, and her comments show that she's perceptive about the characters and plot, which is all I can ask. I know 1 random internet comment isn't much, but I hope if she sees this it might help quiet her inner self-critic at least a little. She's already enough! Also: avocado.
We only after watching it learned that either the director or the cinematographer (I forget which) said he absolutely hates exposition and dialogue in films. Which makes sense considering the epic scale of every scene. Truly mind boggling, can't wait to see what Dune part 2 feels, looks and sounds like
And to think about how much was cut from the book. This world is MASSIVE. And I’m not blaming them. They had to cut to not make it a 12 hour movie but so much was cut so we only see a piece Of how big this world Is and the politics going on
52:57 he says 'cousin' as a reference to the house structure in the dune universe. Each house is basically a family under the same imperial umbrella, so the harkonnens are quasi-cousins to the atreides. The baron is not related to the duke by blood
The cousin line, at least in the book, does almost certainly reference a Napoleonic address that on a fundamental level just means "we both have royal blood". Leto is, however, related to the Baron, so technically they are cousins, just very distant ones. Through the House Corrino.
I have never seen such a comprehensive analysis of a movie before. You two are amazing. Dune is multilayered and very dense storytelling. You two picked up on all the levels that Frank Herbert, the author of the book, laid out. He used the term "Wheels within wheels....Plans within plans"...... to describe what the major players were doing in his story. I can't wait until you react to Dune, part 2. It is the second part of the first book. Picks up exactly from the end of the first part. Thank you for such an interesting and enjoyable experience.
Best reaction I’ve seen of this move. Can’t wait for the next one. Love how much attention you pay to every detail and how you get everything because of it ❤
They didn't really get into it but the Spacing Guild has a monopoly on interstellar travel. If not for them the Great Houses would have no contact with each other. Their ships act very much like an ocean-going ferry where you load it with other ships and then it moves them. The navigators of the guild themselves have used spice so heavily that it has actually mutated their physical appearance and brains. The spice is used to allow the navigators to plot safe passages through the stars (as others have mentioned there are no advanced computers in this world), not perform the actual act of folding space which is a technological act. When the Emperor's Harald came to Caladan to get Lehto to sign the documents that transferred stewardship to house Atreides, you could actually see several members of the Spacing Guild among them. They were the ones who had on those helmets that were kind of cinnamon-coloured. They were that colour because the helmets were flooded with spice gas meaning the guild members were constantly breathing it in. The level of mutation is measured in stages with stage 4 navigators being the ones who fold space. The guild is fiercely protective over their monopoly so no one has ever seen a stage 4 navigator.
12:30, Duncan Idaho (Jason Momoa) has been with House Atreides since he was a boy working the bull stables. When Duke Leto's father Paulus perished in a bullfight, it was testimony from young Duncan that uncovered a conspiracy orchestrated by Leto's own mother. So in a matter of days, Leto (who was about Paul's age now) lost both his parents. Leto took Duncan under his wing as a protege and surrogate younger brother. In time, Duncan joined the Atreides army and was sent to the Ginaz Swordmaster school. He and Gurney Halleck (Josh Brolin) are sword masters of House Atreides. Their fighting prowess has made them legends in their own lifetime at swordsmanship. That's why when Duncan later took out those 3 Harkonnen troopers the rest of them backed off. For all intents and purposes, Duncan is like an uncle or older brother to Paul. So him meeting his end to buy time for his Duke to escape would be considered an honorable death.
The spice is not used to fold space. The great engines of the Spacing Guild's spaceships are what fold spacetime. However, navigating from one star to another is very dangerous because you don't want to emerge on the other side in the middle of a planet or asteroid or star. The spice allows the evolved and spice mutated brains of the Spacing Guild Navigators to predict the likelihoods of dangers for different fine adjustments of the folding process that the engines engage in and to select a safe adjustment so that they arrive in a safe location close to their desired location.
For the kwisatch hederach to rise, paul has to die and he did.... He died metaphorically because the voice said "if you take a life, you take your own". Paul took a life and so he technically died
You guys are the best reactors on TH-cam. You’re just so incredibly intelligent, and your after movie discussions are really magnificent. I would definitely subscribe to a podcast. Dune Notes: -Everyone is human, but just enhanced by centuries of spice use. There are different guilds with different power sets. For example, the Bene Gesserit have the voice, The Doctor can touch you and know your exact medical condition, there are human computers (eyes turn white) who can do advance computations, and then there’s the Spacing Guild who can navigate through the stars via spice. -The worms aren’t everywhere at all times, and stay away from the shield city.
Avocado!!! ....... and Gabriella you need not be self conscious about how well you speak and you do not make a fool of yourself. I have found many gems in your words and ideas. Your truth is relatable in the fact that you don’t put yourself above anyone else and you don’t try to make others feel like they are less-than. You help me just by being openly you and letting your vulnerability be seen. You also help me realise that I can let myself be seen.
The city is surrounded by mountains called the Shield Wall, it keeps the worms from burrowing in and keeps the sandstorms to a survivable level. idk if you guys read much, but the books are absolutely amazing, these movies did an excellent job of adapting them, but its impossible to do without losing a lot along the way.
My youtube comments tend to be overdone and complicated but this video is so good that I genuinely just hope that Pt 2 comes out asap, I've never seen someone get such an honest and comprehensive view of the dune universe besides this. I know there's plans in place for future movies with the franchise, but I hope you guys read the source material before then, because this story is just so rich and I love what you've done with it so far. Much love to you both
One thing about the Bene Gesserit and their plans...the Kwisath Haderach was always supposed to be a male, not a female. The problem with Paul is that he wasnt supposed to be born, Jessica was to have a girl and that girl would've been married to a Harkonnen (the nephew of the Baron, you will meet him in the 2nd part) and their son was supposed to be the One. But Jessica defied her sisters and thought she will give birth to the One and thats how Paul is born, one generation earlier. Keep this detail in mind, while the story unfolds in the next movies.
Congratulations ! You're the first ones to catch how cowardly the Baron was when he activated his shield even though the Duke was naked and paralyzed before him.
Cowardly...maybe. Smart move yes. From childhood the members of noble houses are trained to keep their person shields charged and ready. It was probably a reflex action.
Please don't wait too long to watch part 2. As you know, the first book of the series is so long and dense that it took two movies to tell it well. It just completes the story.
The book is INCREDIBLE. This first movie was great but is only a glimpse. I can see you guys enjoy philosophy, DUNE is incredibly complex and deeply philosophical. It is a rabbit hole you will get addicted to! Oh by the way. I think the Caladan scenes are in Norway, but Caladan comes from Caledonia = Scotland 😉 they even have bagpipes!
Dune is the perfect movie for this channel! You guys have an open mind and you guys will love this series. I suggest Blade Runner for you guys as well.
I love watching your in-depth discussions after your movie reactions. It's even what I look forward to the most in your videos. Please keep going. Best wishes from Nigeria. ~ KJ.
*Some additional non-spoiler lore* : * The story is pretty much set on our timeline roughly 24,000 years into the future. All the characters you see are humans, slightly evolved due to various significant events before Paul's saga. House Atriedes can actually trace their ancestry back to House Atreus of ancient Greek civilization & later Rome as well * Earth is referred to as Terra and has been sadly lost to history after it was struck by a planetoid meteor and designated as a National park millennia after humans left it * Roughly 10,000 years before Paul's story, there was a holy war against the "Thinking Machines" or basically AI, aftermath of which resulted in the complete explusion & abandonment of any artificial intelligent technology, machinery, weapons or equipment across the known universe. It was referred to as the "Butlerian Jihad" and paved the way for how human species would evolve & adapt without the luxury of thinking machines * The Bene Gesserit sisterhood, Space Navigators/Guild & Mentats (human computers) were all developed and established in and around this turbulent time period resulting in the formation of the current feudal imperium with an Emperor and various houses with Dukes, Barons & Counts. Various historical accounts were lost, Religious & conservative beliefs started to become the norm. This is the reason why even though the story is set way ahead into the future, it still feels ancient * Arrakis used to be an abundant water planet until some unknown group before all the AI conflict period decided to infest it with Sand Trouts, which later evolved into the Giant Sand worms, the main source of spice so needless to say they are very vital to the ecology of Arrakis. Fremen only arrived on Arrakis only 3500/4000 years before Paul. They are descendants of the Zen-Sunni people, who were these nomadic tribes that constantly traveled to & from various planets until they were settled into Arrakis
I appreciated the whole discussion, i feel like the main theme of ecology and balance with nature as the deepest form of inner growth to the point it becomes a religion is easily the most fascinating aspect of Dune. I respect immensely the way the author spelled out the danger of our perception of messianic figures, and how easily we harm ourselves on the way through our own metaforical inner desert... really impressive. The way we as humans were shaped by our own ecological niche, evolved in it and then spread into a wider range of habitats, changed ourselves to adapt, turn around and tried to shape the very nature that surrounds us in ways that in turn changes us as well. The ancient fremen dream of turning the desert into a jungle where even Avocado can grow 😉 and the tragedy of the dream becoming real.....
Yesss, I was waiting for Dune from you guys 🥰🥰 Denis Villeneuve is from the same town I'm from (Quebec, Canada). Met him at least twice he's my favorite director by a long shot 😊
Usually i don't comment, however, have to say that what you two are doing with this channel is a masterclass and def raising the bar! Enjoyed every minute of it and as a artist myself i respect and applaud what you are doing here. What a breath of fresh air! Keep it up and don't give up, you guys are on the right track. Bravo! Can't wait for part 2 💪
Welcome! We're happy to have you join us on another adventure. It's only a matter of time before we nail the consistency aspect of doing this whole TH-cam thing. The goal is to have something uploaded every day and we're going to continue pushing towards that goal until we make it happen. Much love!
It is not sweat that you see in the mouse's ears, it is the condensation of the hot morning air in the night cold of the mouse's ears, it is its way of finding water
omg can't wait to watch this video! loved the hp movie reactions and now Dune.. Part 1 and 2 are some of the best modern movies made! hope you guys will enjoy them!
The black goo the baron was in when he was in the tub is a spice bath which has healing powers so the Baron was using it to recover his injuries from Leto's poison gas attack.
@@mentallygonereacts You guys are at least, seemingly wearing proper headphones, unlike others who'll watch with one earbud in (why even bother?). The sound design for both films is absolutely incredible. When these films are re-released in IMAX, run, don't walk, to the cinema. I saw both films in both IMAX and regular cinema, and there's no comparison. IMAX will blow you away. You will actually feel the audio.
Having seen a bunch of your reactions, and knowing how much you like to analyse films, it’s really cool to see you do this one. It’s like the perfect film for that; so rich in history, symbolism, spirituality and commentary on topics like religion, colonialism, conservation, etc. You had some great insights, and really picked up on everything that was going on, both surface level and deeper. Really looking forward to your reaction to the next one, as it only gets crazier from here lol.
When the Emporer's voice arrives, the people standing around him are junior navigators, and their helmets are filled with aerosolized Spice. The man who does the calculations in Thufir Hawat is a member of a society called "Mentats," which have taken the place of computers in this setting.
Great analysis guys! I love that you take notes as you watch the film, just as I did in film class in the 80s. The next part completes the first book of the trilogy. As a fan of the book I highly recommend it because it's even more complex than the two movies. In a lot of ways the novel is the "War and Peace" of science fiction and no movie can truly adapt it faithfully.
Appreciate how you guys give the reaction cut enough time for such a film, very good editing. And then on top of that - a full blown 2 hour post-movie review/analysis/discussion, wearing proper headphones and picking on everything (symbolism, sound cues, music, deep meaning etc etc). I have already complimented you once and I dont subscribe, nor comment almost never.. You're one of the best reaction channels on yt. Cant wait for the 2nd part reaction.
The Duke personally rescued Gurney. It's not that he has trust issues, it's just that he is fiercely loyal, and he is doing his job. Anytime anyone approaches the Duke it is his job as swordmaster to show the Duke is protected. Even if he does not mean to kill he is simply showing he is ready to do that.
BTW, loved your analysis. Also, Liet had to be careful in her interactions with the Atreides because she could face a truthsayer: a Bene Gesserite reverend mother.
In regards to his visions, remember that his visions are of the sort that allows him to see the Multiverse of decisions that could be made so it takes a level of skill training and experience for him to interpret what he sees. In One universe jamis is his friend and mentor in the desert, but in another, he’s just a threshold guardian for him to pass through and rise up
I’m so freaking jealous that people who are just getting into the films don’t have to wait in agony for the second part and can watch both back to back!😤👍😅
Spice not only prolongs life, but it is also a psychotropic that the Guild Navigators use to enhance Prescience when they travel between stars and can have a mind-opening effect on those sensitive to it. One of the things that Denis Villeneuve left out (among many) is that Spice is also addictive and actually present as dust in the air being breathed on the planet. The Eyes of Ibad mark the Fremen who are, as a result, addicted to Spice.
I enjoyed your reaction. Very well done and thought out. Not many people (even those who have read this novel), nor any of the reaction video comments I've watched explained that Paul was only 15 years old when the story begins. He also had no childhood playmates or friendships. What does this isolation from his peers do to a child? He only had intense trainers, who became his friends by abstentia, thus filling that void: Duncan (sword master), Gurney (weapons master), Thufir (Mentat -- complex calculations leading to reliable probabilities), Yueh (biology and ecology). And, of course, his mother, a Bene Gesserit "witch" who also trained him in up close battle techniques, calming techniques, muscle control that gave her quickness (note that Jessica outran Paul easily and didn't stumble when running from the worm), as well as the use of the "voice" (which requires studying the opponent, often on the fly, in order to use it with the most effect). In other words, Paul was a very complex teenager, and will become an even more complex adult. While most think Paul lived a life of privilege, there was a steep cost to that privilege. This may help explain a few things in Part 2.
As amazing as this movie is, I am overjoyed to hear you say you feel called to read the book. There are 6 books in this universe by Frank Herbert, and I implore you to read all 6. For someone as keen on symbolism as you are, there is absolutely nothing beyond Dune. It is the pinnacle of science fiction, and may never be surpassed. Looking forward to part 2! (And, someday, Dune Messiah.)
Great watch guys. This is my favorite book and my favorite director. No one could adapt this book. Think Peter Jackson for lord of the rings Also. Everyone is human. They've evolved differently by environment on different planets . Love that you guys picked up on most thing right away. Watch it again and again and you'll keep picking up different nuances 😊
“why isn’t he doing the sandwalk?” because with a hugeass mining vehicle, it was already attracting the worm regardless. “why did they back away so easily?” cause they just watched duncan kill 3 of them and there was only 3 left. they decided they’d rather not die like the others over one soldier lol “why aren’t the worms attacking with all these explosions?” cause they have a mountain range and shield wall that go deep underground protecting the city from the worms.
Gurney is the Duke's bodyguard, so by definition, he does not trust anyone outside of the royal family to approach the Duke unless Leto says it is okay.
The nose plugs give oxygen, the spice eventually makes your eyes blue on blue with enough exposure and taking of it (the spice is in everything, food, drink, their tents etc)
Did you notice the scene where Paul yells at Jessica in the tent is exactly like an ancient coming of age ritual? His father is dead, he has to become a man, and inevitably (as these things always seem to happen in ancient rituals) that means taking some hallucinogens and tripping out in a tent.
First of all: “Avocado.” Echoes of LAWRENCE OF ARABIA are plentiful and will continue into part 2, where a bit of sarcasm recalls Lawrence being caught sleeping at inopportune times. Paul letting go of the controls of the ornithopter recalls the Arthurian episode when Parzival drops his horse’s reins, symbolically yielding to the will of nature. This is also echoed at the start of DANCES WITH WOLVES. The bull is also a traditional symbol of resurrection because its horns resemble the the young moon on the western horizon as it is monthly reborn (as per Campbell). Following the matador reference in part1, part 2 will present the equivalent of picadors. Part 2 will also feature the chiropractor from hell.
Instead of computers they use those guys whose eyes turn white for complex math. They have a level of evolution due to spice consumption. The navigators are more powerful than the emperor and they have lost their human form. They live in gas tanks where they look like fish creatures they breathe spice gas 24/7. That's how they know the path through the 10k planets they have colonized
You guys hit it on the head when talking about Paul’s abilities. He’s trained as a bene gesserit, he’s basically a sword master since he was the pupil of Duncan Idaho who was part of an order of sword masters called Ginaz but also a natural, born mentat, a human computer like thufir there master of assassins. All of those aspects contribute to his becoming the kwizatz herderach
I love the first part of Dune and I like to re-watch it since I saw the second part. Yes the first film has a slow pace but I find that it is necessary to better understand this world and I find that it sets the table for the second. And I didn't think I would like it as much but nothing surprising because I love Denis Villeneuve's work. And never stop making long reactions because I love it and it's really interesting to hear other people's point of view! ❤️
Frank Herbert wrote the Dune novels for many reasons, but one stands out as he continually mentioned: Be careful of putting blind faith in leaders. Democracy across the world and throughout time is consistently challenge by autocratic dangers and Paul’s story is a reflection of that taking place. Also plays on the idea of religion being controlling factor in so many lives for the wrong reasons.
Felt transported seeing this in theaters for Parts 1 and 2. Definitely an immersive experience. You guys should to watch Part 3 in IMAX. Great reaction!
Their ships actually have what’s called a Holtzman engine , which actually folds space. So the spice navigators use spice simply to navigate the stars since they are unable to use AI technology to make those computations. Because it is against the law to have thinking machines due to events in the past.
Frank Herbert's son Brian Herbert collaborated with Sci Fi author Kevin J Anderson to finish the Dune Saga. He went off his knowledge of his father's vision, and his notes. The books are very enjoyable, and I recommend them.
Best reaction of this movie I've seen! Discovered your channel from Lotr reactions, you guys pick up so many things and really appreciate the movie, great discussion as well. I recommend reading the Dune books too, the book is even better than the movie, absolute must-read. Can’t wait for your reaction to part 2.
The baron was never "resurrected" or healed. He has that thing that makes him levitate so he "flew" to the highest point of the ceiling to not get poisoned, everyone else in the room died.
Duncan Idaho is "the finest fighter in the Empire," and Leto hired him to teach Paul. Gurney Halleck takes Duncan's place when he goes to Arrakis and is the General of the Atreides military. Thufir Hawat is the Atreides spy-master.
Jessica was not supposed to have a son but to produce a daughter that the Bene Gesserit could marry into another House to create the Kwisatz Haderach. However, Leto wanted an heir, and so Jessica gave him one. Also, notice that she is Lady Jessica, and not Duchess, because she is Leto's concubine, so he would be unencumbered in seeking a politically advantageous marriage to another House.
A great franchise, im really excited for the continuation of the series they only been in the books. One of the most important sagas in fiction, hope you enjoy. SN: the books are even better its a whole bunch of them lol
Griedi Prime (Harkonnen Houseworld) actually has a black sun. Thats why the lights and why everybody looks so white. There is no "sun light" like we know.
They are scared because Duncan just slaughtered their homies with ease. All characters are human. The town is protected by the shield wall. It's all explained in the movie without the book.
after finishing Dune 2 , you guys have to watch blade runner 2049 for the same director and composer with his team, the director is amazing with creating atmospheric environment
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Appreciate you! Beyond excited to explore the Dune universe further in the next one. Thanks for joining the journey with us, much love!
@@mentallygonereacts Y’all are the best!
@@mentallygonereacts You should watch David Lynch's version and the miniseries.
Hobbit 1, 2, 3 we are waiting
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It's really cool to see people who talk less, listen more and take notes.
i like the hours of discussion after the movie with these reactions
I was going to say the same thing one of my favorite reaction channels!!🤌🏽🤌🏽🔥🔥
The emperor sent House Atreides to Arrakis to die, so it's only fitting that their arrival should be announced with the sound of bagpipes. It's essentially an epic funeral procession.
Didn't even think about the funeral angle on the bagpipes, my initial assumption was that it had to do with some sort of ancestral tradition for the house, my mind went to ancient Celtic rites for whatever reason. Announcing their death upon arrival is truly epic and makes that scene so much better lol - Caley
The origin of bagpipes is Roman, played going into battle
@@mentallygonereactsCaladan = Caledonia = Scotland 😉
A lot of the human cultures harken back to the old civilizations on Earth, where the humans of the Dune universe originated from. Atreides is a Greek-derived name, Harkonnen a Finnish-derived name. Dr. Yueh and Paul speak Mandarin. The bagpipes alludes to the Scottish influence, and Paul even makes reference to his grandfather engaging in Spanish bullfighting, which is why there is so much bull symbolism in the Atreides manor. In part 2, there is an arena scene that is modeled after a Spanish bullfight, with both matador and picadors. And the whole story is an allegory over the clash of civilizations, colonialism, and resource extraction in the Middle East. A geopolitical tale on an epic, futuristic scale.
Except that's not at all why they're used. He just liked bagpipes...
All the characters are descended and evolved from Earth humans. Different groups of humans have formed into specialty schools: the Bene Gesserit sisterhood have mastered physical and physiological manipulation, the Mentats (the character Thufir Hawat who rolled his eyes back doing the calculations) have honed mental skills and act as human computers (in this universe, artificial intelligence is banned after machines had overthrown human rule and enslaved humans, only to be conquered by a human uprising), and Duncan trained with the Ginaz, who are the sword masters of the universe. Duncan himself is reputed to be one of the finest sword fighters in the Imperium, which is why the Harkonnes soldiers backed off. Because of the shields, fast projectile weapons are somewhat useless, which is why hand-to-hand combat is still a major form of fighting.
'No more terrible disaster could befall your people than for them to fall into the hands of a hero'
Frank Herbert, Dune (1965)
Wow… full body chills 🔥
Minor Spoiler Alert
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He is no Messiah, Messiahs are archetypically peaceful, he is a fighter hero, distorting the myth the bene gesserit primed in arrakis to his own advantage, the sisterhood did not count on the individuality and personal choices of the Kwisatz Haderach, but above all that, was the Lady Jessica's Disobedience on Birthing a man, teaching him Bene Gesserit skills, Duncan training him in swordfighting, gourney in tactics and - in the book - Thufir teaching him Mentat Skills. He is basically a super human with the most "biopotential" of all humans that the schools of humankind develops after the butlerian jihad.
It broke my heart to see Gabriella feeling so self-conscious and self-critical. The biggest reactors I've seen aren't dropping wisdom or intellectual analysis all the time, so I wish she didn't feel such pressure to do more, or say the right thing, or be anything other than her natural self. Her personality is just as charming to me as reactors like Popcorn in Bed, and her comments show that she's perceptive about the characters and plot, which is all I can ask. I know 1 random internet comment isn't much, but I hope if she sees this it might help quiet her inner self-critic at least a little. She's already enough!
Also: avocado.
By far my favorite dune movie reaction, first time discovering the channel and I love it, good discussions !
this film gives me chills everytime... so well done. the world feels massive
We only after watching it learned that either the director or the cinematographer (I forget which) said he absolutely hates exposition and dialogue in films. Which makes sense considering the epic scale of every scene. Truly mind boggling, can't wait to see what Dune part 2 feels, looks and sounds like
@@mentallygonereactsyou guys needs to watch as soon as possible. Its art!
And to think about how much was cut from the book. This world is MASSIVE. And I’m not blaming them. They had to cut to not make it a 12 hour movie but so much was cut so we only see a piece
Of how big this world
Is and the politics going on
52:57 he says 'cousin' as a reference to the house structure in the dune universe. Each house is basically a family under the same imperial umbrella, so the harkonnens are quasi-cousins to the atreides. The baron is not related to the duke by blood
The cousin line, at least in the book, does almost certainly reference a Napoleonic address that on a fundamental level just means "we both have royal blood".
Leto is, however, related to the Baron, so technically they are cousins, just very distant ones. Through the House Corrino.
I have never seen such a comprehensive analysis of a movie before. You two are amazing. Dune is multilayered and very dense storytelling. You two picked up on all the levels that Frank Herbert, the author of the book, laid out. He used the term "Wheels within wheels....Plans within plans"...... to describe what the major players were doing in his story. I can't wait until you react to Dune, part 2. It is the second part of the first book. Picks up exactly from the end of the first part. Thank you for such an interesting and enjoyable experience.
Best reaction I’ve seen of this move. Can’t wait for the next one. Love how much attention you pay to every detail and how you get everything because of it ❤
They didn't really get into it but the Spacing Guild has a monopoly on interstellar travel. If not for them the Great Houses would have no contact with each other. Their ships act very much like an ocean-going ferry where you load it with other ships and then it moves them. The navigators of the guild themselves have used spice so heavily that it has actually mutated their physical appearance and brains. The spice is used to allow the navigators to plot safe passages through the stars (as others have mentioned there are no advanced computers in this world), not perform the actual act of folding space which is a technological act. When the Emperor's Harald came to Caladan to get Lehto to sign the documents that transferred stewardship to house Atreides, you could actually see several members of the Spacing Guild among them. They were the ones who had on those helmets that were kind of cinnamon-coloured. They were that colour because the helmets were flooded with spice gas meaning the guild members were constantly breathing it in. The level of mutation is measured in stages with stage 4 navigators being the ones who fold space. The guild is fiercely protective over their monopoly so no one has ever seen a stage 4 navigator.
12:30, Duncan Idaho (Jason Momoa) has been with House Atreides since he was a boy working the bull stables. When Duke Leto's father Paulus perished in a bullfight, it was testimony from young Duncan that uncovered a conspiracy orchestrated by Leto's own mother. So in a matter of days, Leto (who was about Paul's age now) lost both his parents.
Leto took Duncan under his wing as a protege and surrogate younger brother. In time, Duncan joined the Atreides army and was sent to the Ginaz Swordmaster school. He and Gurney Halleck (Josh Brolin) are sword masters of House Atreides. Their fighting prowess has made them legends in their own lifetime at swordsmanship. That's why when Duncan later took out those 3 Harkonnen troopers the rest of them backed off.
For all intents and purposes, Duncan is like an uncle or older brother to Paul. So him meeting his end to buy time for his Duke to escape would be considered an honorable death.
I think this helps understand why Thufir Hawat was so suspicious of Jessica in the books
Baron Vladimir Harkonnen weighs over 400 pounds and relies on antigravity technology to move his bulk around.
22:57 - yes, absolutely! He was reading the Orange Catholic Bible.
The spice is not used to fold space. The great engines of the Spacing Guild's spaceships are what fold spacetime. However, navigating from one star to another is very dangerous because you don't want to emerge on the other side in the middle of a planet or asteroid or star. The spice allows the evolved and spice mutated brains of the Spacing Guild Navigators to predict the likelihoods of dangers for different fine adjustments of the folding process that the engines engage in and to select a safe adjustment so that they arrive in a safe location close to their desired location.
For the kwisatch hederach to rise, paul has to die and he did.... He died metaphorically because the voice said "if you take a life, you take your own". Paul took a life and so he technically died
You guys are the best reactors on TH-cam. You’re just so incredibly intelligent, and your after movie discussions are really magnificent. I would definitely subscribe to a podcast.
Dune Notes:
-Everyone is human, but just enhanced by centuries of spice use. There are different guilds with different power sets. For example, the Bene Gesserit have the voice, The Doctor can touch you and know your exact medical condition, there are human computers (eyes turn white) who can do advance computations, and then there’s the Spacing Guild who can navigate through the stars via spice.
-The worms aren’t everywhere at all times, and stay away from the shield city.
Avocado!!! ....... and Gabriella you need not be self conscious about how well you speak and you do not make a fool of yourself. I have found many gems in your words and ideas.
Your truth is relatable in the fact that you don’t put yourself above anyone else and you don’t try to make others feel like they are less-than. You help me just by being openly you and letting your vulnerability be seen. You also help me realise that I can let myself be seen.
The city is surrounded by mountains called the Shield Wall, it keeps the worms from burrowing in and keeps the sandstorms to a survivable level.
idk if you guys read much, but the books are absolutely amazing, these movies did an excellent job of adapting them, but its impossible to do without losing a lot along the way.
My youtube comments tend to be overdone and complicated but this video is so good that I genuinely just hope that Pt 2 comes out asap, I've never seen someone get such an honest and comprehensive view of the dune universe besides this. I know there's plans in place for future movies with the franchise, but I hope you guys read the source material before then, because this story is just so rich and I love what you've done with it so far. Much love to you both
37:14 you can walk in whatever way you want when a worm is already coming
These two movies are masterpieces, can't take notes just sit back and take in the experience!
One thing about the Bene Gesserit and their plans...the Kwisath Haderach was always supposed to be a male, not a female. The problem with Paul is that he wasnt supposed to be born, Jessica was to have a girl and that girl would've been married to a Harkonnen (the nephew of the Baron, you will meet him in the 2nd part) and their son was supposed to be the One. But Jessica defied her sisters and thought she will give birth to the One and thats how Paul is born, one generation earlier. Keep this detail in mind, while the story unfolds in the next movies.
You guys are relationship goals, thanks as always guys 😊
Congratulations ! You're the first ones to catch how cowardly the Baron was when he activated his shield even though the Duke was naked and paralyzed before him.
Cowardly...maybe. Smart move yes. From childhood the members of noble houses are trained to keep their person shields charged and ready. It was probably a reflex action.
The first between you three? Geee...
Please don't wait too long to watch part 2. As you know, the first book of the series is so long and dense that it took two movies to tell it well. It just completes the story.
The book is INCREDIBLE. This first movie was great but is only a glimpse. I can see you guys enjoy philosophy, DUNE is incredibly complex and deeply philosophical. It is a rabbit hole you will get addicted to!
Oh by the way. I think the Caladan scenes are in Norway, but Caladan comes from Caledonia = Scotland 😉 they even have bagpipes!
when I watched your Harry Potter reaction… I immediately look if you have a Dune reaction so I’m very excited for this
Dune is the perfect movie for this channel!
You guys have an open mind and you guys will love this series.
I suggest Blade Runner for you guys as well.
I love watching your in-depth discussions after your movie reactions.
It's even what I look forward to the most in your videos. Please keep going.
Best wishes from Nigeria. ~ KJ.
*Some additional non-spoiler lore* :
* The story is pretty much set on our timeline roughly 24,000 years into the future. All the characters you see are humans, slightly evolved due to various significant events before Paul's saga. House Atriedes can actually trace their ancestry back to House Atreus of ancient Greek civilization & later Rome as well
* Earth is referred to as Terra and has been sadly lost to history after it was struck by a planetoid meteor and designated as a National park millennia after humans left it
* Roughly 10,000 years before Paul's story, there was a holy war against the "Thinking Machines" or basically AI, aftermath of which resulted in the complete explusion & abandonment of any artificial intelligent technology, machinery, weapons or equipment across the known universe. It was referred to as the "Butlerian Jihad" and paved the way for how human species would evolve & adapt without the luxury of thinking machines
* The Bene Gesserit sisterhood, Space Navigators/Guild & Mentats (human computers) were all developed and established in and around this turbulent time period resulting in the formation of the current feudal imperium with an Emperor and various houses with Dukes, Barons & Counts. Various historical accounts were lost, Religious & conservative beliefs started to become the norm. This is the reason why even though the story is set way ahead into the future, it still feels ancient
* Arrakis used to be an abundant water planet until some unknown group before all the AI conflict period decided to infest it with Sand Trouts, which later evolved into the Giant Sand worms, the main source of spice so needless to say they are very vital to the ecology of Arrakis. Fremen only arrived on Arrakis only 3500/4000 years before Paul. They are descendants of the Zen-Sunni people, who were these nomadic tribes that constantly traveled to & from various planets until they were settled into Arrakis
"you have more than one birthright boy"-reverened mother... is crazy once you watch part 2
I appreciated the whole discussion, i feel like the main theme of ecology and balance with nature as the deepest form of inner growth to the point it becomes a religion is easily the most fascinating aspect of Dune. I respect immensely the way the author spelled out the danger of our perception of messianic figures, and how easily we harm ourselves on the way through our own metaforical inner desert... really impressive.
The way we as humans were shaped by our own ecological niche, evolved in it and then spread into a wider range of habitats, changed ourselves to adapt, turn around and tried to shape the very nature that surrounds us in ways that in turn changes us as well. The ancient fremen dream of turning the desert into a jungle where even Avocado can grow 😉 and the tragedy of the dream becoming real.....
Yesss, I was waiting for Dune from you guys 🥰🥰
Denis Villeneuve is from the same town I'm from (Quebec, Canada). Met him at least twice he's my favorite director by a long shot 😊
51:39 "O negócio aqui é bruto" You're Brazilian? Cool!
I’ve heard that too, and my brazilian ears called me out to it!
Rapaix, vi o react inteiro, não sei como não percebi essa pérola, agora me confundi todo kk
Usually i don't comment, however, have to say that what you two are doing with this channel is a masterclass and def raising the bar! Enjoyed every minute of it and as a artist myself i respect and applaud what you are doing here.
What a breath of fresh air!
Keep it up and don't give up, you guys are on the right track. Bravo!
Can't wait for part 2 💪
the little books they are reading, is the orange catholic bible, a mix of protestant & catholic faiths
So glad you guys get some consistency again🎉❤ I'm on board again 😊 greetings from PR 🇵🇷
Welcome! We're happy to have you join us on another adventure. It's only a matter of time before we nail the consistency aspect of doing this whole TH-cam thing. The goal is to have something uploaded every day and we're going to continue pushing towards that goal until we make it happen. Much love!
@@mentallygonereacts Every day is a tough goal. Don't burn yourselves out!
loved the reaction so much! thanks for this vid! can't wait for the part 2 which is my favorite! much love
It is not sweat that you see in the mouse's ears, it is the condensation of the hot morning air in the night cold of the mouse's ears, it is its way of finding water
definitely read the books. they're so good. you'll love them.
omg can't wait to watch this video! loved the hp movie reactions and now Dune.. Part 1 and 2 are some of the best modern movies made! hope you guys will enjoy them!
The black goo the baron was in when he was in the tub is a spice bath which has healing powers so the Baron was using it to recover his injuries from Leto's poison gas attack.
Wait til you watch Part 2
The entire movie felt like an epic introduction, we can't even fathom what awaits us in Part 2. The visuals are stunning to say the least
That was me until I have the painful experience of watching it.
@@di3486 trash taste. part 2 is a masterpiece.
@@mentallygonereacts
You guys are at least, seemingly wearing proper headphones, unlike others who'll watch with one earbud in (why even bother?). The sound design for both films is absolutely incredible. When these films are re-released in IMAX, run, don't walk, to the cinema. I saw both films in both IMAX and regular cinema, and there's no comparison. IMAX will blow you away. You will actually feel the audio.
@@Blag_Cog haha for the basic viewer any spectacle is a masterpiece
Having seen a bunch of your reactions, and knowing how much you like to analyse films, it’s really cool to see you do this one. It’s like the perfect film for that; so rich in history, symbolism, spirituality and commentary on topics like religion, colonialism, conservation, etc. You had some great insights, and really picked up on everything that was going on, both surface level and deeper. Really looking forward to your reaction to the next one, as it only gets crazier from here lol.
51:40 "O negócio aqui é bruto" hahahah Maravilha de react, valeu!
We here. Let’s go! You be one of them favorite reaction channels I watch. Saludos desde Perú. 🇵🇪
When the Emporer's voice arrives, the people standing around him are junior navigators, and their helmets are filled with aerosolized Spice. The man who does the calculations in Thufir Hawat is a member of a society called "Mentats," which have taken the place of computers in this setting.
i need Dune Part 2 guyssss, love this reaction
Hands down the best reaction channel !
Its funny you mentioned sandy in this lol the giant Alaskan bullworm is a dune reference. These references are literally everywhere lmao
37:15 walking without rhythm doesn't matter with all of the other vibration going on lol the worm is already on the way...
Great analysis guys! I love that you take notes as you watch the film, just as I did in film class in the 80s. The next part completes the first book of the trilogy. As a fan of the book I highly recommend it because it's even more complex than the two movies. In a lot of ways the novel is the "War and Peace" of science fiction and no movie can truly adapt it faithfully.
Appreciate how you guys give the reaction cut enough time for such a film, very good editing. And then on top of that - a full blown 2 hour post-movie review/analysis/discussion, wearing proper headphones and picking on everything (symbolism, sound cues, music, deep meaning etc etc). I have already complimented you once and I dont subscribe, nor comment almost never.. You're one of the best reaction channels on yt.
Cant wait for the 2nd part reaction.
In writing "Dune," Frank Herbert was strongly influenced by having read "Lawrence of Arabia."
The Duke personally rescued Gurney. It's not that he has trust issues, it's just that he is fiercely loyal, and he is doing his job. Anytime anyone approaches the Duke it is his job as swordmaster to show the Duke is protected. Even if he does not mean to kill he is simply showing he is ready to do that.
Y'all are gonna have a blast with part 2
We just finished watching it last night (it will be posted soon) and my mind was absolutely blown. Hands down one of my favorite movies EVER - Gabi
BTW, loved your analysis. Also, Liet had to be careful in her interactions with the Atreides because she could face a truthsayer: a Bene Gesserite reverend mother.
In regards to his visions, remember that his visions are of the sort that allows him to see the Multiverse of decisions that could be made so it takes a level of skill training and experience for him to interpret what he sees. In One universe jamis is his friend and mentor in the desert, but in another, he’s just a threshold guardian for him to pass through and rise up
Recognizing the Bene Gesserit as a "mystery school" is a great catch.
Great reaction to one of my fav things ever. You guys are good. Very real and un-self conscious. thank you!
I’m so freaking jealous that people who are just getting into the films don’t have to wait in agony for the second part and can watch both back to back!😤👍😅
Spice not only prolongs life, but it is also a psychotropic that the Guild Navigators use to enhance Prescience when they travel between stars and can have a mind-opening effect on those sensitive to it. One of the things that Denis Villeneuve left out (among many) is that Spice is also addictive and actually present as dust in the air being breathed on the planet. The Eyes of Ibad mark the Fremen who are, as a result, addicted to Spice.
I always love the gasps when they display the date at the start of the movie.
I enjoyed your reaction. Very well done and thought out.
Not many people (even those who have read this novel), nor any of the reaction video comments I've watched explained that Paul was only 15 years old when the story begins. He also had no childhood playmates or friendships. What does this isolation from his peers do to a child? He only had intense trainers, who became his friends by abstentia, thus filling that void: Duncan (sword master), Gurney (weapons master), Thufir (Mentat -- complex calculations leading to reliable probabilities), Yueh (biology and ecology). And, of course, his mother, a Bene Gesserit "witch" who also trained him in up close battle techniques, calming techniques, muscle control that gave her quickness (note that Jessica outran Paul easily and didn't stumble when running from the worm), as well as the use of the "voice" (which requires studying the opponent, often on the fly, in order to use it with the most effect).
In other words, Paul was a very complex teenager, and will become an even more complex adult. While most think Paul lived a life of privilege, there was a steep cost to that privilege. This may help explain a few things in Part 2.
Excellent React
Dune II will mesmerize you
tuned in 💯
stay Awesome
As amazing as this movie is, I am overjoyed to hear you say you feel called to read the book.
There are 6 books in this universe by Frank Herbert, and I implore you to read all 6. For someone as keen on symbolism as you are, there is absolutely nothing beyond Dune. It is the pinnacle of science fiction, and may never be surpassed.
Looking forward to part 2! (And, someday, Dune Messiah.)
Great watch guys.
This is my favorite book and my favorite director.
No one could adapt this book.
Think Peter Jackson for lord of the rings
Also. Everyone is human. They've evolved differently by environment on different planets .
Love that you guys picked up on most thing right away. Watch it again and again and you'll keep picking up different nuances 😊
“why isn’t he doing the sandwalk?” because with a hugeass mining vehicle, it was already attracting the worm regardless.
“why did they back away so easily?” cause they just watched duncan kill 3 of them and there was only 3 left. they decided they’d rather not die like the others over one soldier lol
“why aren’t the worms attacking with all these explosions?” cause they have a mountain range and shield wall that go deep underground protecting the city from the worms.
Gurney is the Duke's bodyguard, so by definition, he does not trust anyone outside of the royal family to approach the Duke unless Leto says it is okay.
The nose plugs give oxygen, the spice eventually makes your eyes blue on blue with enough exposure and taking of it (the spice is in everything, food, drink, their tents etc)
Did you notice the scene where Paul yells at Jessica in the tent is exactly like an ancient coming of age ritual? His father is dead, he has to become a man, and inevitably (as these things always seem to happen in ancient rituals) that means taking some hallucinogens and tripping out in a tent.
First of all: “Avocado.” Echoes of LAWRENCE OF ARABIA are plentiful and will continue into part 2, where a bit of sarcasm recalls Lawrence being caught sleeping at inopportune times. Paul letting go of the controls of the ornithopter recalls the Arthurian episode when Parzival drops his horse’s reins, symbolically yielding to the will of nature. This is also echoed at the start of DANCES WITH WOLVES. The bull is also a traditional symbol of resurrection because its horns resemble the the young moon on the western horizon as it is monthly reborn (as per Campbell). Following the matador reference in part1, part 2 will present the equivalent of picadors. Part 2 will also feature the chiropractor from hell.
Instead of computers they use those guys whose eyes turn white for complex math. They have a level of evolution due to spice consumption. The navigators are more powerful than the emperor and they have lost their human form. They live in gas tanks where they look like fish creatures they breathe spice gas 24/7. That's how they know the path through the 10k planets they have colonized
You guys hit it on the head when talking about Paul’s abilities. He’s trained as a bene gesserit, he’s basically a sword master since he was the pupil of Duncan Idaho who was part of an order of sword masters called Ginaz but also a natural, born mentat, a human computer like thufir there master of assassins. All of those aspects contribute to his becoming the kwizatz herderach
I really love how you two caught on so quickly. ❤️
such a great reaction can't wait for y'all to see the next one, it'll blow your minds
Part 1 is world building. Second not as much . But very action oriented.
Very thoughtful reaction. You guys show real enthusiasm and curiosity. Excellent.
10:12, The Emperor isn't shown in Part I. He is in Part II played by Christopher Walken. This Black dude is just an emissary of the Emperor.
I love the first part of Dune and I like to re-watch it since I saw the second part. Yes the first film has a slow pace but I find that it is necessary to better understand this world and I find that it sets the table for the second. And I didn't think I would like it as much but nothing surprising because I love Denis Villeneuve's work. And never stop making long reactions because I love it and it's really interesting to hear other people's point of view! ❤️
51:40 o negócio aqui é BRUTO!! 🇧🇷 hahaha i didn’t know you are brazilian (and nordestino?) hahaha
Actually Frank Herbert left notes of his final novel and his son Brian Herbert published the final books based on these notes
Frank Herbert wrote the Dune novels for many reasons, but one stands out as he continually mentioned: Be careful of putting blind faith in leaders. Democracy across the world and throughout time is consistently challenge by autocratic dangers and Paul’s story is a reflection of that taking place. Also plays on the idea of religion being controlling factor in so many lives for the wrong reasons.
"Lisan Al Gaib"
Felt transported seeing this in theaters for Parts 1 and 2. Definitely an immersive experience. You guys should to watch Part 3 in IMAX. Great reaction!
Their ships actually have what’s called a Holtzman engine , which actually folds space. So the spice navigators use spice simply to navigate the stars since they are unable to use AI technology to make those computations. Because it is against the law to have thinking machines due to events in the past.
Frank Herbert's son Brian Herbert collaborated with Sci Fi author Kevin J Anderson to finish the Dune Saga. He went off his knowledge of his father's vision, and his notes. The books are very enjoyable, and I recommend them.
Best reaction of this movie I've seen! Discovered your channel from Lotr reactions, you guys pick up so many things and really appreciate the movie, great discussion as well. I recommend reading the Dune books too, the book is even better than the movie, absolute must-read. Can’t wait for your reaction to part 2.
The baron was never "resurrected" or healed. He has that thing that makes him levitate so he "flew" to the highest point of the ceiling to not get poisoned, everyone else in the room died.
Duncan Idaho is "the finest fighter in the Empire," and Leto hired him to teach Paul. Gurney Halleck takes Duncan's place when he goes to Arrakis and is the General of the Atreides military. Thufir Hawat is the Atreides spy-master.
1:36:04 This is so refreshing to hear. Im with you guys 100%, thanks for the way you do it. You guys are awesome.
Jessica was not supposed to have a son but to produce a daughter that the Bene Gesserit could marry into another House to create the Kwisatz Haderach. However, Leto wanted an heir, and so Jessica gave him one. Also, notice that she is Lady Jessica, and not Duchess, because she is Leto's concubine, so he would be unencumbered in seeking a politically advantageous marriage to another House.
A great franchise, im really excited for the continuation of the series they only been in the books. One of the most important sagas in fiction, hope you enjoy. SN: the books are even better its a whole bunch of them lol
Griedi Prime (Harkonnen Houseworld) actually has a black sun. Thats why the lights and why everybody looks so white. There is no "sun light" like we know.
They are scared because Duncan just slaughtered their homies with ease. All characters are human. The town is protected by the shield wall. It's all explained in the movie without the book.
after finishing Dune 2 , you guys have to watch blade runner 2049 for the same director and composer with his team, the director is amazing with creating atmospheric environment
"For free?" Good lord haha 😂
I’ll be sitting here waiting for Part 2 to show up