8700K Delid & Undervolt - 20C° Drop!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ม.ค. 2018
- A quick CPU transplant in Fusion II and I wanted to see just how cool and quiet I could run this thing at stock clock speeds. Let me know what you guys think!
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With normalized fan speeds, this is an easy 25C°+ drop.
Wish they came like this out of the box lol.
Can you do a no IHS video with the German CPU kit?
Would love to!
Would love to see that too.
your videos are like those of hardware Canucks amazing video quality
could you please tell me, if Vcore of 1.25 for 8700l will effect its longevity?i bought a maximus x hero, and i want to last this processor a long time.
It's sad that they use mayo by default :(
You mean semen
its not mayo ......................... its colegate
FYFY-“They use seminal fluid after the sodomization of the purchaser.” You’re welcome
They use a very stable TiM that will last several years which requires a sacrifice of performance quality. If they used one of the popular thermal pastes, it would very likely dry out after 18 months (or maybe less) and the chips would all start throttling and failing.
or they could solder them
Glad I found your channel. Thanks for the quality content. Not only you have the knowledge, but a talent for explaining stuff.
When you have paid 400 dollars for one cpu... intel should take more care about thermal component....
I'm growing to love this channel. HardwareCanucks seems to have offered a little inspiration, and that's no bad thing, those guys are awesome. That's not to say that the content isn't original, it definitely is. Very unique and enjoyable. Thanks man.
Thanks for this video! I literally have the same build as the Fusion II except my Ncase is black. I was planning on just delidding my 8700K but now after this video, I’m going to undervolt as well.
So damn happy I found this channel. Exactly my type of content and shared views on almost everything, even though I've actually just found the channel today. I hope you keep on putting out content like this!
I guess you won the silicon lottery in my books. As always, impressive visuals. Great work!
watching at 1.5x speed in silent mode with caption shows me that the way you shoot product is superb!
love the editing, that is legit insane
That case inside setup is awesome! So clean!
Great video. Currently running my 8700k 4.7ghz enhanced turbo enabled with offset -0.100mv. Awesome temps with a cheap hyper212
Nice. This is exactly what I waited for like forever. It's always either overclock + delid or just undervolt.
Great video. Totally planning to do this when build a new PC later this year. Thanks for the info.
Love your channel, man. You should really have hundreds of thousands of subs for how good your content is.
this is a very good video. im still waiting for overclocking the calculator tho
Wow that was some really good application.
Why change fan speeds... all should be the same.. come on bro!
Nice work man. Good to see another Sydney-based tech enthusiast producing high quality content on TH-cam.
Thanks for the support!
This was a cool video! I like the option to delid and undervolt for the purposes of a smaller/cheaper LP Air Cooler and/or quiet system. Of course there still exists the option to OC and use a bigger cooler if desired. Personally I think a front facing LP cpu fan looks good even in an Mid-ATX case.
Nice result. Based on your previous video on checking delidded 7700k, have you put some nail polish on visible contact under ihs?
Well done man!
Great video, thanks for sharing. Can you post what thermal silicone/glue do you recommend/use?
Great quality videos, I'll be back for more 😁
How do you not have 100k+ subscribers already? The production value's fucking insane. Keep it up!
Nice results! Delidded my i5 6400 a while ago, with the custom bios it could run at 4.8ghz with 1.45v, staying around 60c average with the corsair h60.
Intel .... just stop using that cheap TIM for god sake
amanvds why doesn't this have more likes lol
Yeah I hope Intel has a very good reason for putting tooth paste in their CPUs. I hope this company is not that shit to put tooth paste without good reason.
not any more with the 9900k but still...
@@MaxRei_Xamier Haha, now the silicon die is thicker which causes heat transfer to be worse.
Intel doesn’t give a flying F### about the consumer! It only now started to worry once and busted out ryzen! Hopefully this gets some changes done on intel’s side
Wow, what a great video. Great production value.
Thanks for watching!
You're the MKBHD of PC enthusiasts. Great work man, keep it up :)
Decent difference, I just run mine fully stock and happy with my 5.1GHz temps :)
Nice, jealous of that 5.1GHz OC :P
I was surprised when I was able to get it to that stable!
what voltage? Mine is sitting at 5.0ghz at 1.34 volts. 5.1 takes close to 1.4v and even with a dark rock pro 3 i hit 95c very quick while stress testing
I'll try let you know in a few days if I remember, currently overseas so can't check :p
What temps?? And cpu fan? Thanks
thanks for the vid. very informative!
could you please explain how to make undervoltage for 8700k in asus motherboard? thank you
Great video, btw are you using liquid metal between the heat sink and the IHS?
great video mate
Can you apply the liquid metal between the IHS and the CPU cooler? Or is it just for inside the IHS?
Did you use the liquid metal between the HS and CPU as well?
Good video.
I bought a similar system based on a couple of your videos. I'm over giant cases, a nice iTX system is being delivered any day now.
Hey dude, love the videos, keep up the hard work.
What track is used near the end of the video its very drum and bass.
What delid tool did u get? My rockit delid tool scratched the shit out of the pcb, but thankfully its ok and got it to 5.2ghz
Solid video. Wonder how well delidding would work with a custom loop...
Nice content! Subscribed
Very nice video. I think everyone with a couple like this ought to try a little undervolting. Even if they do not wish to de-lid. As long as the system is stable, you can drop temperature and reduce fan speed at no risk.
I was so amazed and got interested with lowering the temperature
May I know the whole process of under volting? I have the same cpu but it always get into 100c which worries me alot on a nzxt m22
62.5'C under P95 load is awesome. Nice one.
Please make an overclock guide of the 8700k on msi board.
I'm using the same model mouse as yours, and I plugged the little receiver into my keyboard's USB port at top back, which makes it completely unnoticable.
great video quality.
The De8baur tool is definitely a little more elegant than my vice and towel method xD
Such a shame that a 385EUR chip still comes with cheap mayo TIM.
I did this myself a couple of months ago with conductonaut and can verify the temps. Also running Kryonaut between IHS and coldplate. i7 8700k at 5.2Ghz at 1.34V with a 360 rad in push/pull. Aida64 temps average 67 degrees!
You're so cool
Wow, this is awesome :o
Hey Man,
Shout out from Australia.
I am thinking about getting my hands on a DANCase and I am running the 8600k and MSI Carbon ITX board.
Did you by chance de-lid and undervolt the i5 when you were running it?
I am currently running a 240mm aio with the i5 @ 5ghz at 1.32v.
I have more than accepted in the SFF I will need to loose the OC, but I was literally looking into delid and undervolting as there are a lot of reports of the DANCase getting very toasty.
I have mine running at a constant 4.5ghz @ 1.13 volts . No visible performance loss. I buy a K skew for its re sale value when it comes time to upgrade
I would have liked to see the drop in power consumption from the underbvolting too.
Hey, great video;
I would have loved to see you touch on the efficiency (Power draw in Ampere/Watt @Stock, @UV, @4.9GHzOC), and VRM Temps of your board,
especially seeing the massive 20% voltage bump for the last ~5% of frequency.
Thanks for your always good content, keep it up and have a nice day :)
Thanks for the suggestions, I'll keep them in mind for next time!
after applying liquid metal thermal paste. what glue did you use for for reliding ihs?
do you have to use HSG? i read that it can add more heat instead of cooling it extra?
Yes Ali! I've undervolted and re-pasted my 7700HQ in my XPS15 9560 and while it's not a night and day performance difference I very much appreciate the reduced fan noise.
I really wish I had the tools to delid my 6700K though :(
You can delid most of CPUs with vise.
What if you keep it at stock speed of 3.7, delid, unfervolt and use a premium water cooler, what then would the tempts be?
Hi @Optimum Tech I know this question is super old , but what are your values for i7 8700 at 4.3 ghz (default clocks on all cores)? What is the actual value you used to see the 4.7 at 1.08 vcore, is that with vdroop or just what you pressed in the bios and lastly what motherboard and LLC value you use?
Would be acceptable to use liquid metal between the heat spreader and the cooler also?
I have changed the DRAM voltage of my 7700K to 1.1 V (originally 1.2 V), is that good?
Delided my 8700k and got 5.3 GHz with low voltage. Set it at 4.8 GHz for now. I am using a 7-tube Gelid air cooler. Max temperature now is 78C in AIDA64 (120 minutes stress).
Oliver Krivel holy shit. If you are not lying u just picked the best fucking chip. Did u buy it binned or did u just hit the silicon lottery lucky?
No, I do not lie. My cooler is Cooler Gelid GX-7 Ultimate CC-GX-7-01-A. It was too hot with default compound so I replaced it with Thermal Grizzly metal. I have it on MSI z370 Tomahawk (which is not bad). I think 50% success is due to the motherboard sufficiency. It is not my first delidding so I was pretty sure what to do.
By the way, I am using a cheap tool from aliexpress to delid Intels (goo.gl/HfEGtP). I am also considering to try this: www.aliexpress.com/item/Z97-XPOWER-AC-CPU-Open-Cover-Protector-Delid-Die-Guard-For-LGA115X-Series-CPU/32621328449.html
78c is a bit high, what voltage for 5.3? And is it 5.3 avx?
Great video dood. been following you for a while now and your subs are not growing fast enough IMO. Also do you have sauce on the outro song? its chill
Thinking about doing this to my 6700k was wondering if its ok to apply Liquid metal to my AIO cooler or is that a bad idea? keep seeing people saying it eats copper but its aluminum that it eats.
How much does this reduce the TDP by? I'm looking the Cryorig Taku case for my next build and it has extremely limited cooler clearance. Noctua state their low profile LH-L9i isnt suitable for the 8700k due to its 95W TDP. Think your method would get it down to acceptable levels?
Who manufactures that computer case? Looks awesome!
I believe that is awesome, I just am not willing to risk the warranty. That being said once the warranty is up, and the processor starts showing its age(4+ years, from now) I may decide to do just that. I also have an 8700K with the Aorus GTX 1060 6GB model. I am also using a much larger case than you are; I also am using a Corsair 280mm AIO, thermals don't factor in to severely for me. I just run it stock and allow for the CPU boost.
you went down to 1.08v but what is the minimum official voltage on the datasheet ?
Can you delid a 8700 non-k version and undervolt it and boost it to 4.7?
is that 200mhz clock speed worth it in for the extra +15 degrees that it gives?
3 year later I still watching this video whenever my 8700k temp jump xD
Would it be OK if I don't glue my IHS back onto the CPU and just use the bracket of the CPU socket of the motherboard to lock the IHS down?
Would have been nice to see what undervolting on the std cpu without delid would have done
video idea: test the temps difference beetween this current cooling config and a 2.5 slot gpu with slim fans or without fans at all at the bottom of the case (thinking about the strix or the new silent evga gpu)
@optimumtech I went to your site to buy that delidding tooo but didnt see it. Is it still available?
After I delid my 8700k and did an OC with my Asus bios, I got 5.15 GHz at 1.5v, tops out at 70C in cinebench after multiple continuous runs. Is 1.5v too high?
I really liked the case. What is it? thx
Do a build in the s4 mini with a delided cpu
Is that 4,7Ghz@1,08V stable?
I cant under volt my 8700 beyond 4.3 Ghz@1,2V on a Asrock Killer. I've set vcore on Offset mode and the lowest value is -100. Then if i use a lower LLC value than 2 (1,180V) bsods.
Where can i get this Delid tool?
So what thermal paste do u put between the cpu and cooler?
8700k = beautiful boiler
Video shows you swapping chip only, however the boards for the 6700k don't support the 8700k, or am I missing something here?
i couldn't get mine to 5ghz without delidding as i was hitting 95-ish temps and it still wasn't stable. at the same settings after delidding without resealing, i dropped 26c (temps after 10min p95 26.6 small ffts), which is absolutely amazing and now i'm stable at 5.1 @ 1,35 under load (1,43v in bios) and temps never rise above 60c while gaming on my x62 kraken.
Lol same thing with me and same cpu cooler as well
U mnie po skalpie 5.1GHz
Im hitting 5.1 @1.36 V but temps are high 87 to 98 stock havent delidded yet. Using a corsair h150i pro
u mnie max 78* ale to już po skalpie, 5.3GHz 1,2,3 rdzenie a 4-5-6 5.1GHz
Temperatures affect stability pretty much.
The hotter your chip, the less stable it gets at higher frequencys.
Mine is running at 5 GHz at 1.285 Volts and max temps under maximum load over 1 hour with AVX is 65°C in HW Monitor.
Hi, im big fan of your and i need your help
Can you please tell me what is the BEST app for monitoring while im in game mode. *CPU, GPU, RAM MHz TEMSvoltage* ALL THINGS.
I like to see this all.
can you tell me what is the best APP for this?
What are they using on heat spreader?
I still have the 4790k but I have it delidded and running at 4.9Ghz no temp issues at all. 1.35 volts
OH HELL YEA i have my 4790K at 1.277 Volt with 4.8Ghz atm. Under 60C while gaming. Not sure if i can maybe do 5Ghz with 1.35-1.37 Volt not tested yet, because i wait for a new Watercooler first.
Hey where can I get this Delid tool?
no delid tool link or link to glue?
Can I undervolt 8700(non-k) on H370 motherboard?
In prime95 avx on or off?
i have 8700k and nzxt x62 and max 4400 mhz why dosent get 4700 mhz ?
Any idea how undervolting is configured on Gigabyte motherboard? I could not find voltage offset settings in Gigabyte Z370.
Wasim Azhar - it's in there, it was difficult for me to find also, just check the manual
My non-delidded and non-overclocked i7 8700K reaches max 75 degrees in Prime 95 at 1.1v and 4.3 GHz at all cores. Enhanced turbo is off. Board is Z370 Tomahawk from MSI. And my cooler is Noctua NH-D15S with only one 140-mm fan. And i'm pretty happy with my first i7 in my whole life. :)
i did this with a 8086k before delidding i was getting over 93C, and after, it was around 65 to 66C so yea it makes a big difference.
oh yea one more thing intel says there new i9 CPU.s are going to be Soldered.
i just delid my 8700k, vcore has been lowered aswell, and ive seen 15-20degree well worth it! it is very stressfull using liquid metal tho =S
Good afternoon! Why didn't they do die lapping?
Great video. I do undervolt my 8600k by 0.095v which is giving me max temps of around 70c. I do plan to delid in the future so I can run the fans slower in the future
what motherboard are you using?
MSi Z370 Pro Carbon ITX with Nocuta D9L with two 2000rpm fans. Testing has been done with Cinabench and Intel Extreme tuning as games don't really stress it.
My 8600k is overclocked to 4,9GHz, and i am stable at 40 degrees. Got over 50 degrees only one time for 1 minute!
what are your overclocking settings? I went for 4.9 GHz (stock) and 0,020 V overvolt for @ 71 °C (still much lower than automatic OC at 5 GHz, which was around 85 °C). Asus ROG Strix Z370G mobo. Scythe Koketsu cooler.
jackelofnar bro does it safe ?
This is real, my notebook is down 15-20 Cº, with same frecuency and -0.06 V
Fractal Node 202 build next please!
King Haro The 8700K stock voltage will definetly run around 90-95C without delid in this case and will probably run 75-80C even with delid using Scythe Big Shuriken 2 Rev B.