A quote from Rockitcool,they are using Loctite Super Control Gel for relid. 1. It shrinks when it cures, pulling the IHS tight to the CPU die. 2. It cures to be hard, no movement of the IHS when clamping in the motherboard. (movement can cause voids which will give higher core to core temps) 3. It cleans up very easy. Soak the entire CPU / IHS in acetone for 10 to 20 minutes and the super glue softens / dissolves. Not a trace left on the CPU or IHS. 4. It cures in 2 hours vs 8 hours for Ultra Black.
Got a 25 degree drop under load from deliding and using Thermal Grizzley Liquid metal on my I7 7700k. Overclocked to 5ghz, temp hovers around 61 degrees max load.
Good job, it worked out :) On my 4790K I did use a vipe to separate the DIE and IHS.. and did not glue them in the end. I first placed the DIE into the motherboard socket and then the IHS on top.. the securing metal kept it in place really well too:)
thank you. i was lucky and got a "golden" unit. runs 5.2-5.3Ghz depending on voltage with aio water-cooling. Going to delid the little bastard now and see if i can hit 5.4Ghz stable and at a decent temperature. (Edit: 5.5Ghz on AIO after delid)
Gonna be lapping and delidding my 7900X to prep for LN2 overclocking and was wondering how/if I'd relid the thing. And don't worry I wont use liquid metal and have a compatible delidding tool lol Thanks for the informative video
@@NerdW0rk My 8700k (at 4,3 ghz and 1,87 vcore) ticks 90 C under full load stress testing. I could delid to overclock further but then again, it never bottlenecks in games, so I guess I deal with it until that happens.
Nice video man. Thanks for the guide. Went on amazon and ordered the exact kit you used. Will try it for myself in 2 days. Same processor. I’ll watch it a few more times in preparation 👍
NerdWork Network thanks! Got the i7 to 5GHz yesterday but it ran too hot for my liking. Also, pretty sure my aio isn’t top notch either😂 will check back with the results!
If you don't worry about ruining your IHS I found I had better thermals by scuffing up the surface (better vs smooth for liquid metal as I tested) and using liquid metal to the heatsink/waterblock as well. Honestly no point really unless you're trying to squeeze out every last bit for your overclock and cooling. Also make sure your rear cpu bracket on the motherboard is screwed on tight. I was having thermal issues and found out it wasn't tight enough. Fixed that by adding some washers.
i wouldnt have even made a gasket. Just clamp it with the retention clip. its easier, allows hot air to escape, and you'll get better temps. Otherwise maybe poke a tiny hole in it with a needle or something? Either way, grats on the successful de-lid (old vid i know)
I ordered this exact thing, just running a mild overclock on my 8700k at 4.3ghz on all cores im hitting 75c almost 80c and thats with using AIDA64 extreme, i have a Noctua D14 as my cpu cooler and i have checked it numerous times to see if its seated right and it is.
You're welcome! Thank you for subbing and the feedback! That's my whole goal is to share my mistakes so others don't repeat them and I'm far from perfect haha
My Gaming rig now is a *{i7 CPU 920@2.67GHz.. On a Studio XPS 435MT Motherboard}.. I will be getting the 8700k.. But I also will be getting a new motherboard.. I like the *{Asus - ROG RAMPAGE VI EXTREME EATX LGA2066 Motherboard}.. I think both of these will be a great match.. But That will take some time.. I'm a retired guy.. Living on a fixed income.. But I always find a way.. To save to get what I want.. Once again thank you for posting your videos..
The 8700k is a LGA 1151 so it won't fit on that board. However Asus Maximus X Code is the board I have and it is a fully loaded feature board and supports the 8700k flawlessly
Bill baggins 1.3V for 4.7GHZ??? i can get into the system and play games at 5.0GHZ at 1.20V. same motherboard. Z370 Pro4. but it cannot pass the stable test. i’ve also accidentally bended a few pins now the intergraded graphic don’t work and my first two ram slot cannot detect ram. others than that, it’s just that bad paste between the cpu that is screwing my temp over.
My 7700k is going up to 100c alot, at 1.2v with dark rock pro4, I really need to delid, im just scared I will kill it, I dont have a job atm so I cant buy a new one.
Your the first one I've seen put the liquid metal on the IHS. Every other I have seen puts it on the chip and the silicone on the IHS. Not saying your wrong, just telling you what I've seen.
It's actually the liquid metal from the die. I just lay the IHS down to see where it will be in contact and spread there as well to make sure get good coverage.
Did I read that correctly? 24:59 You overclocked your 8700k from the stock 3.7Ghz @1.35V up to 5.1Ghz @1.25V? My 8700K is not at 1.35V stock. In fact when I overclocked to 5Ghz I had to increase my voltage to 1.36V in order to get a stable overclock. How are you at a stable 5.1Ghz overclock at 1.25V? My 8700k is not delided.
Yeah you read that correctly however I am now at 1.275V. It's part of the silicone lottery though in terms of what your CPU can do stable. I was lucky enough to overclock mine while undervolting at the same time. There are quite a lot of others who have been able to achieve the same or close to results, but then yet again others aren't able to.
Hi! great video, just wanted to know how those temps are after all this time.. i've heard rumors about it needing to be replaced and how temps get worse after a while.
Thank you! Temps are still around the same for me, however my CPU is horizontal on my test bench so that may have something to do with it. I'm actually in the works of the follow up video of x amount of months later so stay tuned!
my 8700k with a single corsair 120mm water cooler does 57 degrees at full load on all cores @ stock voltage 1.3x; how come? its not delided; the fan also stays on quite it never goes above 1200rpm; can anyone recommend if it is even worth deliding on mine? since is so low; i also downloaded aida extreme; and got 61 max average after 15 minutes of running; it was stabilized at 61
Don't "glue" the IHS back to the PCB. Delid, clean up the surfaces, apply the liquid metal to the chip and IHS. Place the CPU carefully into the motherboard and carefully drop the IHS straight down onto it. Lock it down, use your thermal compound of choice on the outside of the IHS (liquid metal would be idea) and apply your cooler. Adding anything between the IHS and PCB only raises the IHS up and further from the chip which in many cases kills performance as much or more than the factory compound.
Really curious as to how people go with relidding without glue? I know you can clamp it with the mobo socket but doesn't the mobo clamp shift the IHS slightly when depressing? Trying to work out if i should glue as it seems to cause a few problems
You put the IHS slightly off center to the side of the hinge so when you put the clamp down it pushes the IHS the other way and is then centered. May take you a couple of tries to get the placement right but it works.
It's a little pry tool from my iFixIt kit. Credit card would work too. Here is a link to a similar kit amzn.to/2TLHlbK. Also I used 91% isopropyl alcohol for cleaning. The Delid kit has some 70% wipes included but it takes longer to evaporate so I recommend 90% or higher.
No problem dude! I really appreciated that you showed us the mistake and showed how to rectify it. I knew not to use too much sealant because of that. Will report back with my results shortly.
Yeah I didn't want to be like others and just edit out of the mistake. I tend to do that with a lot of my stuff. We are only human and mistake are sure to happen at one point or another. Should check out the group Computer Enthusiasts on Facebook. That is my community for NerdWork. We just hit 50k members and we'd love to see your results there. facebook.com/groups/pcenthusiast/
has anyone tried using gasket maker/sealer on the outside edge of the ihs and the cpu edge to seal and hold the ihs in place - instead of between the ihs and cpu... to allow the ihs to sit flatter and closer to the cpu?
This is true but at the risk of the IHS damaging the die if moved. Some cases this is fine but in my case I have mine on a test bench in which I swap hardware. A little gasket maker is worth peace of mind IMO.
Good question. I believe it would be possible however it would be extremely risky and require a lot of skill. I personally don't believe the risk is worth the reward. der8auer actually covered this here th-cam.com/video/5lA0DnoNR-w/w-d-xo.html
@NerdWork Network Liked and subbed!, have a question though buddy I want to do this with my 9700k. However I'm to nervous. Iv'e done 3-4 builds ever since I was 16 ( nearly 30 now ) and I had an idea. I was planning to buy the Deba8er or whatever it's called 2 and get 3-5 old used I3's from Ebay. And then use those old used CPU's to practice not only using the tool but applying the thermal grizzley, isolating/securing PCB's/Resistors and re-seating and putting the IHS back on with the tool too. I figure if I can do it without error on three old processors and I don't break resistors/PCB's or destroy the die/cpu and get it to post....-..In my mind realistically at that point I could justify attempting the same operation. Except on my nearly $400 I7 9700K CPU. Does that sound like a good idea?. I know this " practice " will cost me not only the tool ( $40 ) but also the bundle of old I3's ( $50-75). However in my mind this cost is justified as it gives me valid practice on delidding and working further with CPU's. Appreciate some input and or any tips and tricks you have for me. I know to use the right nail polish so it's safe, and also to avoid all contact with the resistors and stuff on the chip. Honestly what I'm afraid of most is removing the old stock silicone from the chip itself. I know I have to rub/scrape it off lightly with a plastic tool but I'm scared to do that around those tiny oh so important resistors and PCB's and other things around the chip. One slip and I'm out hundreds!. Scary stuff for a moderate PC enthusiast. Any tips on that silicon removal process?. Thanks in advance!. I feel with this plan maybe in the next few months I will actually delid and do a liquid metal setup on my processor. :)
Always a good thing to practice before trying out on an expensive piece. However the 9700k is a soldered chip so the delid process is slightly different than the 8700k. Have you watched out 9900k delid video yet?
Honestly I haven't really noticed much of a difference in noise levels between the two. I shall have to test it out. I personally believe my H150i is a lemon and not functioning at design specs. I have notice time to time of air pockets in the loop and the pump has increased in noise over time.
Great voltage man. My 8086k Isn't even that great on voltage compared to yours. I'm at 5.2ghz with a 5.0ghz core cache @ 1.4v. Temps are good and I'm happy reaches 70c in Cinebench best score was 1774.
@@NerdW0rk I can hit 5.3 but I'm not sure if it's stable because I'm thermally limited at that point. There is air in my water loop after so many years and I don't feel like draining and refilling. But the temperatures only get out of whack above 5.2. which I believe is because it gets hot enough at that point to force the air bubbles through the tubes and block instead of staying in the reservoir (forcing the pump to Max speed is what I mean) So my quest for the max is over until I want to take my system apart and drain/refill
@@NerdW0rk I'm guessing by your low vcore at 5ghz you're using some sort of LLC. I found setting a higher vcore with no LLC generated alot less heat. 1.250 high llc I'd see temps of 88c in benches, but using 1.305v with no LLC I see temps of 67-77c in the same benches. I'm non delidded on a dark rock pro4 Games around 58-68c Idles at 36-38 4.8ghz at 1.305v
I have this kit and was gonna do this to my cpu but also was a little worried since a few videos I’ve seen shows putting on the cpu die and ihs after only 3 months of use. What’s your opinion?
NerdWork Network some people pulled off the ihs after 3 months to see the results of the liquid metal and see pitting on the ihs which makes me feels awkward about putting it on and leaving it for a few years
Ah, I used mine for a month before delidding and it's been 7 months since I've delidded. Still same performance as day one. Granted my machine is on my test bench so the CPU is sitting flat. Some people tend to redo the application after 6 months. Since I haven't noticed any difference since day one I'm going to see what it's like after a year.
Can you explain why you applied the gasket maker to two sides of the IHS, not all four sides? Thanks for the video, awesome. I'll be attempting it this weekend!
I just applied it on the two sides to make sure it was sealed enough to stick together. A lot of people don't even use it just gotta be careful when install block or heatsink.
@@NerdW0rk Thanks for the quick reply!!! Do you recommend using LocTite SuperGlue to keep the IHS in place? Or is the Gasket Maker enough? Thanks again!
You're welcome! I would go with the gasket maker, it is strong enough to keep it in place (if you leave it on for at least an hour) but not too strong that if you need to take the IHS off again you can
It survived in gaming, AIDA64, Malware Bytes full scan (haha it taxes a lot), and Adobe renderings. I wouldn't be scared yeah there is a risk but if you go slowly and follow the steps you should be just fine!
i did this but i used the liquid metal between the heat-sink and the CPU and that works well. i got a 25C drop in temps after this. just a note..... DO NOT USE THIS STUFF ON ALUMINIUM HEATSINKS as it will destroy the the heat-sink.
@@sav22rem22 everyones 8700k is a little hot for those liking 😂 I ended up getting rid of my liquidmaster 120 and using a dark rock pro4, was thinking about delid, but after getting DR4, I never exceed 71c gaming, And idle around 38c at 4.8ghz 1.315v no LLC
I would recommend reapplying the liquid metal every so often. Some people say 6 months however I plan on redoing mine when it hits a year. I haven't notice any degrade in temps hence the length of time.
My 6700k is a Silicone Lottery chip. It's been running fine for years too and I've never redelidded it or reapplied LM. I guess it comes down to how while it has been done the first time
Lmao didn't realize I was talking like an airline pilot. Not sure if I should take that as a compliment or insult haha regardless I got a laugh out of your comment haha thanks!
I believe my h150 is a lemon. I compared them both and there was a 5-10 degrees increase on the H150 depending on load. This was tested on my 6700k overclocked to 4.8Ghz at 1.4V
Noise-normalized (both at 40dBa) the H150i performs better (according to Gamers Nexus). The H100i V2 has faster fans at maximum though (2500 rpm vs 1600 rpm I think), so has the potential to cool better (though 10° difference seems a bit much), but it's also twice as loud at that speed. I personally aim to avoid 100% fan speed anyway, so the H150i is better imo.
Get some noctua fans and it'll dominate. The stock fans are average at best. Same with most coolers but the ones on the 150i Pro seem particularly crap. Can always reuse the noctua fans if you decide to get a new AIO (as they'll 100% beat whatever fans the AIO comes with)
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It had more silicon than Kim Kardashian 😂😂😂😂😂😂
LMFAO I'm dead 💀💀
Actually a legend for admitting you're mistake instead of editing it out ❤
Thank you!
A quote from Rockitcool,they are using Loctite Super Control Gel for relid. 1. It shrinks when it cures, pulling the IHS tight to the CPU die.
2. It cures to be hard, no movement of the IHS when clamping in the motherboard. (movement can cause voids which will give higher core to core temps)
3. It cleans up very easy. Soak the entire CPU / IHS in acetone for 10 to 20 minutes and the super glue softens / dissolves. Not a trace left on the CPU or IHS.
4. It cures in 2 hours vs 8 hours for Ultra Black.
Got a 25 degree drop under load from deliding and using Thermal Grizzley Liquid metal on my I7 7700k.
Overclocked to 5ghz, temp hovers around 61 degrees max load.
I now feel more comfortable with doing my own delid on a 8700K.
It wasn't that difficult after getting into it. I am satisfied with my first timer results even with the failure at first.
imo best step by step and most thorough explanation on youtube. thanks for this
You're welcome, thank you for the kind words!
This was by far the most terrifying video I have ever watched 😂
Good job, it worked out :) On my 4790K I did use a vipe to separate the DIE and IHS.. and did not glue them in the end. I first placed the DIE into the motherboard socket and then the IHS on top.. the securing metal kept it in place really well too:)
thank you. i was lucky and got a "golden" unit. runs 5.2-5.3Ghz depending on voltage with aio water-cooling. Going to delid the little bastard now and see if i can hit 5.4Ghz stable and at a decent temperature. (Edit: 5.5Ghz on AIO after delid)
You're welcome! You got you a great chip there!
I subscribed and liked because of your transparency. The video is clean and simple.
Thank you for your support! Much appreciated these days!
Funny, honest, informative. Great job. Thanks!
You're welcome and thank you!
Thanks a lot for sharing ur experiences !
You're most welcome!
Gonna be lapping and delidding my 7900X to prep for LN2 overclocking and was wondering how/if I'd relid the thing. And don't worry I wont use liquid metal and have a compatible delidding tool lol
Thanks for the informative video
this is a very thorough guide, well done.
Thank you!
@@NerdW0rk My 8700k (at 4,3 ghz and 1,87 vcore) ticks 90 C under full load stress testing. I could delid to overclock further but then again, it never bottlenecks in games, so I guess I deal with it until that happens.
I had major improvements after delidding and it's been almost 3 years and still working just as good
Nice video man. Thanks for the guide. Went on amazon and ordered the exact kit you used. Will try it for myself in 2 days. Same processor. I’ll watch it a few more times in preparation 👍
Thanks for the feedback! Good luck with your delid!
NerdWork Network thanks! Got the i7 to 5GHz yesterday but it ran too hot for my liking. Also, pretty sure my aio isn’t top notch either😂 will check back with the results!
Looking forward to the results!
@@NerdW0rk The kit arrived a day early. Watching one more time before it's go time!
Good luck man!!!! Update us with the results!
If you don't worry about ruining your IHS I found I had better thermals by scuffing up the surface (better vs smooth for liquid metal as I tested) and using liquid metal to the heatsink/waterblock as well. Honestly no point really unless you're trying to squeeze out every last bit for your overclock and cooling. Also make sure your rear cpu bracket on the motherboard is screwed on tight. I was having thermal issues and found out it wasn't tight enough. Fixed that by adding some washers.
I love your positivity. Subbed.
Thank you!
GG if i had 8700k only.
Awesome guide
Thanks
doesn't the pressure on the Lid make it bulge?
The best video ever for this thing. Great job. Thanks.
Thank you!!
@@NerdW0rk can you please suggest me. As I'm not planning to use liquid metal. I'll use nt h1.! Would that make a difference too?
Are you going to delid? Or just between IHS and block?
@@NerdW0rk yes after delid. Just over the silicon chip
It would be better than the stock TIM however not as good as the liquid metal
i wouldnt have even made a gasket. Just clamp it with the retention clip. its easier, allows hot air to escape, and you'll get better temps.
Otherwise maybe poke a tiny hole in it with a needle or something?
Either way, grats on the successful de-lid (old vid i know)
I ordered this exact thing, just running a mild overclock on my 8700k at 4.3ghz on all cores im hitting 75c almost 80c and thats with using AIDA64 extreme, i have a Noctua D14 as my cpu cooler and i have checked it numerous times to see if its seated right and it is.
Awesome video, & thank you.. For being an Honest guy.. You sir have a new subscriber..
You're welcome! Thank you for subbing and the feedback! That's my whole goal is to share my mistakes so others don't repeat them and I'm far from perfect haha
My Gaming rig now is a *{i7 CPU 920@2.67GHz.. On a Studio XPS 435MT Motherboard}.. I will be getting the 8700k.. But I also will be getting a new motherboard.. I like the *{Asus - ROG RAMPAGE VI EXTREME EATX LGA2066 Motherboard}.. I think both of these will be a great match.. But That will take some time.. I'm a retired guy.. Living on a fixed income.. But I always find a way.. To save to get what I want.. Once again thank you for posting your videos..
The 8700k is a LGA 1151 so it won't fit on that board. However Asus Maximus X Code is the board I have and it is a fully loaded feature board and supports the 8700k flawlessly
Ouch, I got 79c on just one core max during benchmarks on a non delidded 4.7ghz 1.305v with dark rock pro4
Bill baggins 1.3V for 4.7GHZ??? i can get into the system and play games at 5.0GHZ at 1.20V. same motherboard. Z370 Pro4. but it cannot pass the stable test. i’ve also accidentally bended a few pins now the intergraded graphic don’t work and my first two ram slot cannot detect ram. others than that, it’s just that bad paste between the cpu that is screwing my temp over.
-_-#囸囲囚团 I’m hitting 5.0ghz at 1.290 core volts on my 8700k. Non delib max temps are 76c in prime 95. Using a gigabyte z390 aorus pro.
My 7700k is going up to 100c alot, at 1.2v with dark rock pro4, I really need to delid, im just scared I will kill it, I dont have a job atm so I cant buy a new one.
Very informative video!
Thank you!
NerdWork Network I should be thanking you. There are many misinformed people out there. These are the kind of video we actually need.
Your the first one I've seen put the liquid metal on the IHS. Every other I have seen puts it on the chip and the silicone on the IHS.
Not saying your wrong, just telling you what I've seen.
It's actually the liquid metal from the die. I just lay the IHS down to see where it will be in contact and spread there as well to make sure get good coverage.
I’m going to attempt this with my Ivy Bridge
Did I read that correctly? 24:59 You overclocked your 8700k from the stock 3.7Ghz @1.35V up to 5.1Ghz @1.25V? My 8700K is not at 1.35V stock. In fact when I overclocked to 5Ghz I had to increase my voltage to 1.36V in order to get a stable overclock. How are you at a stable 5.1Ghz overclock at 1.25V? My 8700k is not delided.
Yeah you read that correctly however I am now at 1.275V. It's part of the silicone lottery though in terms of what your CPU can do stable. I was lucky enough to overclock mine while undervolting at the same time. There are quite a lot of others who have been able to achieve the same or close to results, but then yet again others aren't able to.
Hi! great video, just wanted to know how those temps are after all this time.. i've heard rumors about it needing to be replaced and how temps get worse after a while.
Thank you! Temps are still around the same for me, however my CPU is horizontal on my test bench so that may have something to do with it. I'm actually in the works of the follow up video of x amount of months later so stay tuned!
Good video man!
Thanks
my 8700k with a single corsair 120mm water cooler does 57 degrees at full load on all cores @ stock voltage 1.3x; how come? its not delided; the fan also stays on quite it never goes above 1200rpm; can anyone recommend if it is even worth deliding on mine? since is so low; i also downloaded aida extreme; and got 61 max average after 15 minutes of running; it was stabilized at 61
What is there a red piece ? please
*So what AIO do you recommend to get the best results?*
Honestly I'm still using the Corsair one on the test bench
@@NerdW0rk So the H150i Pro?
That is correct
Don't "glue" the IHS back to the PCB. Delid, clean up the surfaces, apply the liquid metal to the chip and IHS. Place the CPU carefully into the motherboard and carefully drop the IHS straight down onto it. Lock it down, use your thermal compound of choice on the outside of the IHS (liquid metal would be idea) and apply your cooler. Adding anything between the IHS and PCB only raises the IHS up and further from the chip which in many cases kills performance as much or more than the factory compound.
Why didnt you apply the liquid metal on top of the ihs instead of the Noctua thermal grease?
There actually isn't much of a temp difference with the Noctua and Liquid Metal on top of the IHS
@@NerdW0rk okay thanks for you video and quick response
Thank you
You're welcome!!!
Really curious as to how people go with relidding without glue? I know you can clamp it with the mobo socket but doesn't the mobo clamp shift the IHS slightly when depressing? Trying to work out if i should glue as it seems to cause a few problems
You put the IHS slightly off center to the side of the hinge so when you put the clamp down it pushes the IHS the other way and is then centered. May take you a couple of tries to get the placement right but it works.
I dont need to relid do i?
Also do you remove the nail polish on the die or keep it on?
You leave nail polish on. You can also use liquid electrical tape instead. It is used to protect the SMDs from the liquid metal
what are you using to scrape off on the the silicon around the Die @ 7:15. Are you using regular 99% alcohol to clean around and on the die?
It's a little pry tool from my iFixIt kit. Credit card would work too. Here is a link to a similar kit amzn.to/2TLHlbK.
Also I used 91% isopropyl alcohol for cleaning. The Delid kit has some 70% wipes included but it takes longer to evaporate so I recommend 90% or higher.
Followed your guide, though I elected not to apply it to the IHS. Overall not a bad job to do, just need to be careful. Thanks for the video! Subbed.
Thank you for the support! I was a little nervous at first but after doing it realized wasn't as bad as I thought.
No problem dude! I really appreciated that you showed us the mistake and showed how to rectify it. I knew not to use too much sealant because of that.
Will report back with my results shortly.
Yeah I didn't want to be like others and just edit out of the mistake. I tend to do that with a lot of my stuff. We are only human and mistake are sure to happen at one point or another.
Should check out the group Computer Enthusiasts on Facebook. That is my community for NerdWork. We just hit 50k members and we'd love to see your results there.
facebook.com/groups/pcenthusiast/
@@NerdW0rk So far so good, at 4.4GHz stock volts, ~55'C on Intel ETU Stress Test. Not bad for air! More tuning to come.
Not bad at all. Mine is still doing under 60s for most of the time and it's been 2 years.
One question, do you have to replace the liquid methal in some years, or does.it last forever?
How did you temps go up when you reduced the voltage from 1.35v to 1.25v??
has anyone tried using gasket maker/sealer on the outside edge of the ihs and the cpu edge to seal and hold the ihs in place - instead of between the ihs and cpu... to allow the ihs to sit flatter and closer to the cpu?
Winter is coming ! :D Nice to see a GoT Stark fan
It's either Stark or Castle Black!
they say not to even use gasket sealer at all for best results
This is true but at the risk of the IHS damaging the die if moved. Some cases this is fine but in my case I have mine on a test bench in which I swap hardware. A little gasket maker is worth peace of mind IMO.
74deg is great man!!!
So was it too much silicone glue or too much liquid metal?
Too much silicone
Gotcha, thank you!
You're welcome!
So your recommendation would be to basically go easy on the silicone adhesive when resealing it?
Yes just a very little bit
Quick Question here. Can you resolder the IHS to the Die. Or can that not be done. i know intel used to solder the IHS to the Die.
Good question. I believe it would be possible however it would be extremely risky and require a lot of skill. I personally don't believe the risk is worth the reward. der8auer actually covered this here th-cam.com/video/5lA0DnoNR-w/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the video. Did you use the amount @ 17'46" of gasket market for the entire lid?
@NerdWork Network
Liked and subbed!, have a question though buddy
I want to do this with my 9700k. However I'm to nervous. Iv'e done 3-4 builds ever since I was 16 ( nearly 30 now ) and I had an idea. I was planning to buy the Deba8er or whatever it's called 2 and get 3-5 old used I3's from Ebay. And then use those old used CPU's to practice not only using the tool but applying the thermal grizzley, isolating/securing PCB's/Resistors and re-seating and putting the IHS back on with the tool too. I figure if I can do it without error on three old processors and I don't break resistors/PCB's or destroy the die/cpu and get it to post....-..In my mind realistically at that point I could justify attempting the same operation. Except on my nearly $400 I7 9700K CPU. Does that sound like a good idea?. I know this " practice " will cost me not only the tool ( $40 ) but also the bundle of old I3's ( $50-75). However in my mind this cost is justified as it gives me valid practice on delidding and working further with CPU's. Appreciate some input and or any tips and tricks you have for me. I know to use the right nail polish so it's safe, and also to avoid all contact with the resistors and stuff on the chip. Honestly what I'm afraid of most is removing the old stock silicone from the chip itself. I know I have to rub/scrape it off lightly with a plastic tool but I'm scared to do that around those tiny oh so important resistors and PCB's and other things around the chip. One slip and I'm out hundreds!. Scary stuff for a moderate PC enthusiast. Any tips on that silicon removal process?. Thanks in advance!. I feel with this plan maybe in the next few months I will actually delid and do a liquid metal setup on my processor. :)
Always a good thing to practice before trying out on an expensive piece. However the 9700k is a soldered chip so the delid process is slightly different than the 8700k. Have you watched out 9900k delid video yet?
hey man so i can use the seal thing to cover those and wont dmg it?
for the 4 conductive things
Yeah you can use the silicone but be careful not to get too much or it will raise the IHS and not get good contact. That's why I used nail polish
@@NerdW0rk any kind of nail polish fine or is the clear one recommend more?
Clear should be fine
@@NerdW0rk thank you so much
You're welcome!!
5.1ghz with 1.25v? wow man you got a really good chip!
Indeed I did 😊
Wish mine was like that. If I manual oc, it crashes at 1.35 on p95 at 4.8ghz lol.
@@NishikigoiwithOliver yeah p95 is too stressfull for the cpu
Well done. Very instructional. Thanks!
Thank you!
You say the H150i Pro sucks, but it is optimized more for noise. Is your H100i V2 louder?
Honestly I haven't really noticed much of a difference in noise levels between the two. I shall have to test it out. I personally believe my H150i is a lemon and not functioning at design specs. I have notice time to time of air pockets in the loop and the pump has increased in noise over time.
what is that red staff on cpu ? Liquid electric tape ?
Great voltage man. My 8086k Isn't even that great on voltage compared to yours. I'm at 5.2ghz with a 5.0ghz core cache @ 1.4v. Temps are good and I'm happy reaches 70c in Cinebench best score was 1774.
I'm sitting at 1.275 now, if I ever get this thing on water I'm going to see how far I can push the chip
@@NerdW0rk I can hit 5.3 but I'm not sure if it's stable because I'm thermally limited at that point. There is air in my water loop after so many years and I don't feel like draining and refilling. But the temperatures only get out of whack above 5.2. which I believe is because it gets hot enough at that point to force the air bubbles through the tubes and block instead of staying in the reservoir (forcing the pump to Max speed is what I mean) So my quest for the max is over until I want to take my system apart and drain/refill
5.2 is still a great OC
@@NerdW0rk I'm guessing by your low vcore at 5ghz you're using some sort of LLC.
I found setting a higher vcore with no LLC generated alot less heat.
1.250 high llc I'd see temps of 88c in benches, but using 1.305v with no LLC I see temps of 67-77c in the same benches.
I'm non delidded on a dark rock pro4
Games around 58-68c
Idles at 36-38
4.8ghz at 1.305v
Good food for thought there. I'll have to play around with it some more.
I have this kit and was gonna do this to my cpu but also was a little worried since a few videos I’ve seen shows putting on the cpu die and ihs after only 3 months of use. What’s your opinion?
Slightly confused. Waiting 3 months?
NerdWork Network some people pulled off the ihs after 3 months to see the results of the liquid metal and see pitting on the ihs which makes me feels awkward about putting it on and leaving it for a few years
Ah, I used mine for a month before delidding and it's been 7 months since I've delidded. Still same performance as day one. Granted my machine is on my test bench so the CPU is sitting flat. Some people tend to redo the application after 6 months. Since I haven't noticed any difference since day one I'm going to see what it's like after a year.
Can you explain why you applied the gasket maker to two sides of the IHS, not all four sides? Thanks for the video, awesome. I'll be attempting it this weekend!
I just applied it on the two sides to make sure it was sealed enough to stick together. A lot of people don't even use it just gotta be careful when install block or heatsink.
@@NerdW0rk Thanks for the quick reply!!! Do you recommend using LocTite SuperGlue to keep the IHS in place? Or is the Gasket Maker enough? Thanks again!
You're welcome! I would go with the gasket maker, it is strong enough to keep it in place (if you leave it on for at least an hour) but not too strong that if you need to take the IHS off again you can
@@NerdW0rk Thank You for being so helpful! Wish me luck :D
You're welcome! Good luck and let us know how it goes!
so, the second time you didn't glue it back?
I did use the gasket maker again just made sure I used very little of it.
What failure? what happened?
I explain it in the video, I believe 9:30 mark I explain what happened. First attempt thermals were too high though
Why did you cut the video out when you first applied the liquid metal. So that we would actually see if too much or too little LM you applied
Liquid Metal was fine, it was too much silicone which is covered later on in the video
Cool
What did you use to scrape off the silicone?
It's a little plastic pry tool in my iFIXIT kit.
@@NerdW0rk It is used for smartphones usually
Did you manage to hit 5.1 with 1.250 volts? how the hell
I did at first, was stable for awhile then started crashing. I raised it up to 1.275 and haven't had any issues out of it.
NerdWork Network wow that is a really really low voltage for that clock
I got lucky. Buddy of mine has gone through 3 or 4 chips and can't below 1.375 at 5.1
Not bad at all Ian!
It survived in gaming, AIDA64, Malware Bytes full scan (haha it taxes a lot), and Adobe renderings.
I wouldn't be scared yeah there is a risk but if you go slowly and follow the steps you should be just fine!
Can you water cool without IHS
Yes you can that term is called direct die cooling. You can check out our 9900k Direct For video to get an idea of how it's done.
I've got an 8086k
Thanks to your vid I decide to not risk delidding 😂
You sound like you are a news anchor LOL
Haha thanks
i did this but i used the liquid metal between the heat-sink and the CPU and that works well. i got a 25C drop in temps after this.
just a note..... DO NOT USE THIS STUFF ON ALUMINIUM HEATSINKS as it will destroy the the heat-sink.
scaleop4 Is it still working good?
@@sav22rem22 yea so far all good.. no issues yet.
scaleop4 Great. I’m thinking about doing this as my 8700k is a little too hot for my liking
@@sav22rem22 be very careful.!!!
@@sav22rem22 everyones 8700k is a little hot for those liking 😂
I ended up getting rid of my liquidmaster 120 and using a dark rock pro4, was thinking about delid, but after getting DR4, I never exceed 71c gaming,
And idle around 38c at 4.8ghz 1.315v no LLC
any maintenance after delidding in 2-3 year? thx
I would recommend reapplying the liquid metal every so often. Some people say 6 months however I plan on redoing mine when it hits a year. I haven't notice any degrade in temps hence the length of time.
Running for 5 years now with no issue.
My 6700k is a Silicone Lottery chip. It's been running fine for years too and I've never redelidded it or reapplied LM. I guess it comes down to how while it has been done the first time
Has anybody ever used a piece of real gold leaf as the TIM instead of liquid metal ?
I have not, curious about results however
www.reddit.com/r/hardware/comments/939glu/gold_leaf_as_tim_tested/
Thanks for sharing
U sound like JerryRigEverything
Haha
4:55 that's what she said
Haha
How the fuck can you get it to run 5.1 @1.25??
Who doesn't test the flow of something before they actually use it damn lol
the best liquid metal Cool laboratory Liquid ULTRA + CS))
ita a shame that you didnt include in the video how much LM you've applied in the first place
The same as the second time he did it
Why are you talking like your a airline pilot lol
Lmao didn't realize I was talking like an airline pilot. Not sure if I should take that as a compliment or insult haha regardless I got a laugh out of your comment haha thanks!
You’re
What happen when that red one removed?
46$ i have delided i7 7700k with no problem with aliexpress delid tool for 8$ 🙂👍
how does your h100i v2 cool better than a h150 :S
I believe my h150 is a lemon. I compared them both and there was a 5-10 degrees increase on the H150 depending on load. This was tested on my 6700k overclocked to 4.8Ghz at 1.4V
Noise-normalized (both at 40dBa) the H150i performs better (according to Gamers Nexus). The H100i V2 has faster fans at maximum though (2500 rpm vs 1600 rpm I think), so has the potential to cool better (though 10° difference seems a bit much), but it's also twice as loud at that speed. I personally aim to avoid 100% fan speed anyway, so the H150i is better imo.
I personally believe I have a lemon H150i
I guess homey
Get some noctua fans and it'll dominate. The stock fans are average at best. Same with most coolers but the ones on the 150i Pro seem particularly crap. Can always reuse the noctua fans if you decide to get a new AIO (as they'll 100% beat whatever fans the AIO comes with)
I’m too much of a coward to try this lol
If you just go slow and careful you can achieve great results. Don't beat yourself up.
Liquid electric tape would work great instead of silicon.
Indeed it would
Umm fuck yerh spred it
Waaaay too much silicone, but also waaaaaaaaaaaaay too much liquid metal.